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earthelves
07-10-2008, 05:12 PM
Worth The $60?? The Reason I Ask Is I Notice That You Get 20% Off All Food But Then They Add 18% For Gratuity:confused3 :confused3 Am I Missing Something??

TIA

matty624
07-10-2008, 05:31 PM
Worth The $60?? The Reason I Ask Is I Notice That You Get 20% Off All Food But Then They Add 18% For Gratuity:confused3 :confused3 Am I Missing Something??

TIA
I was a little dismayed to see that they had imposed that 18% tip on the bill too! I dont mind giving a good tip, if I've had good service, but to put that on the bill automatically, just because you're using DDE, isn't really on!
That said, if you figure you'll usually tip 15% for reasonable service, it's only a little more than I'd tip anyway, and you do get the 20% off... annoying though!!! I like to decide for myself how much the tip is, not be told!!!
We'll still get it though, just as soon as I've bought my PAP...
Matt

UKDEB
07-10-2008, 05:52 PM
The addition of the auto-gratuity was a sop to servers when the gratuity was removed from the Dining Plan. For them, though, it wasn't a good move because most people (me included) simply added back the discount as the tip, so they're actually down by 2%.

Whether or not it's worth it is a simple mathematical calculation. You just need to take a look at the menus of the places you want to eat and work out how much you're likely to spend. It only needs to be in excess of $300 for you to be up on the deal. In every year since we've had it, it's paid for itself in one meal at V&A's alone. And the benefit of the DDE over any other discount is that alcohol is included.

Effectively (and the way we've always looked at it) it pays the tip. I suppose there's an argument to say that if you're a poor tipper, you'd need to factor that in.

matty624
07-10-2008, 05:56 PM
The addition of the auto-gratuity was a sop to servers when the gratuity was removed from the Dining Plan. For them, though, it wasn't a good move because most people (me included) simply added back the discount as the tip, so they're actually down by 2%.

Whether or not it's worth it is a simple mathematical calculation. You just need to take a look at the menus of the places you want to eat and work out how much you're likely to spend. It only needs to be in excess of $300 for you to be up on the deal. In every year since we've had it, it's paid for itself in one meal at V&A's alone. And the benefit of the DDE over any other discount is that alcohol is included.

Effectively (and the way we've always looked at it) it pays the tip. I suppose there's an argument to say that if you're a poor tipper, you'd need to factor that in.
$300 for one meal!!!! Blimey! Still, you're right, we've saved a fortune, over the course of a few weeks, the 20%s add up. But wont be eating at V&As if it's that expensive!;)
Matt

UKDEB
07-10-2008, 06:17 PM
$300 for one meal!!!!
Well there were 20 people in our party! :rotfl:

No, seriously, V&A's is $125 each, plus $60 per person if you choose the wine pairing, plus tax and tip.

wayneg
07-10-2008, 06:23 PM
Well there were 20 people in our party! :rotfl:

No, seriously, V&A's is $125 each, plus $60 per person if you choose the wine pairing, plus tax and tip.

2 meals there it pays for a 4 night cruise:goodvibes :sail:

UKDEB
07-10-2008, 06:30 PM
Cruising is great value for money, no doubt about it. We had four nights on the Wonder for $400. $100 a night for accommodation and as much food as you can eat is a no-brainer. I'd pay that just for Castaway Cay! But, the food on the cruise is just so-so, in my opinion, and we're big foodies. I couldn't compare one with the other - two equally enjoyable yet totally different experiences.

wayneg
07-10-2008, 06:40 PM
Cruising is great value for money, no doubt about it. We had four nights on the Wonder for $400. $100 a night for accommodation and as much food as you can eat is a no-brainer. I'd pay that just for Castaway Cay! But, the food on the cruise is just so-so, in my opinion, and we're big foodies. I couldn't compare one with the other - two equally enjoyable yet totally different experiences.

Have you tried RCCL cruise, foodwise way better than Disney IMO.
I know you are into your food and drink though, Something I don't get being very happy with a $18 steak, ribs:cloud9: fries and soda at Texas Roadhouse. :goodvibes

UKDEB
07-11-2008, 02:29 AM
No, but we have cruised with NCL. Their Freestyle cruising is truly revolutionary and, as it's been around for some time now, I'm surprised more lines haven't cottoned on. The newer ships have something like 13 or 14 eateries and you can make reservations just as you would at a regular restaurant. The standard of the food is incredible given the obvious restrictions they face. There are supplements for the signature restaurants, but they're better than Palo. Don't get me wrong, I think DCL has a unique offering, too, and I particularly like the fact that, for adults travelling without kids, there are plenty of child-free places. I'm just not so keen on the food. It's not dreadful by any means, but not top-notch, either. In fact, it's exactly as I thought it would be - on a par with park restaurants in the main and, in Palo's case, with Artist Point, Narcoossee's and the like. Obviously cruising is losing its image as the domain of the blue-rinse set, but there must still be a huge untapped market. It really is fantastic value for money and what other holiday option allows you to wake up in a different destination each morning without having to keep packing and unpacking?

wideeyes
07-11-2008, 03:10 AM
I am buying the DDE card in september, I think it will be good value for us and I don't mind paying the 18% tip, it will make it easier that it is added on for us, will also save a bit as we would of tipped 20%.

Am I right in thinking the tip is worked out on the total not including the tax?

Claire L
07-11-2008, 04:25 AM
Don't forget that to be able to buy the DDE you either need to be a Florida resident or have an Annual Pass.

Claire ;)

earthelves
07-11-2008, 04:59 AM
Yes We Have Ap's:)

mikki.young
07-11-2008, 05:51 AM
The tip is worked out on the pre tax, pre discount total. so if bill was $100 tip would be $18 and tax on top of that.

Lannin
07-11-2008, 06:30 AM
The tip is worked out on the pre tax, pre discount total. so if bill was $100 tip would be $18 and tax on top of that.

Gonna wait for the free DDP offer myself...:cool1:

orangetiggs
07-11-2008, 06:38 AM
we got ours in feb and used it for a week, fantastic, we used it at counter service meals and they didnt add the tip and we saved aourn $50 in a week. We are going out there for our wedding in 7 weeks so I think we will use it alot then

wayneg
07-11-2008, 06:40 AM
Gonna wait for the free DDP offer myself...:cool1:

Works for some but not for many. Take into account over paying for the room rate, overpaying for your tickets and being tied to Disney dining the whole stay.
We have booked AKL in August for £82/night but to qualify for DDP it would be £138/night. £56 or $111 buys a lot of food for 3 people, I know we prefer offsite dining but we rarely spend above $80-90/day on food.
I also know a few that do it once and then don't like it, too tieing and too much food.

wideeyes
07-11-2008, 07:22 AM
Gonna wait for the free DDP offer myself...:cool1:

We saved more by getting an AP rate on our room then we would of saved on free dining. saved almost $2000, so if we had booked free dining it would not really have been free as we would of had to pay almost an extra $2000 on the room. I don't think we would eat $2000 worth of food on the free dining plan.:)

markndean
07-12-2008, 07:48 AM
I think that it depends on how many of you there are in your group. We bought one last year and didn't make our $60 back as there are only 2 of us, AND you can't use them in Cinderellas royal table! Which is usually our main treat.:confused:

Mrs Doubtfire
07-12-2008, 08:29 AM
I am still on the fence on this one - got an AP - but a swe are going at Christmas you can't use on a couple of days when we are goint to places that would normally accept it :sad1:

So may still be worth it when I get around to looking at the prices.

suzycute
07-13-2008, 03:41 AM
Can anyone tell me whether we have to buy a DDE card each (or between us)? I am going to buy an AP for October but DH will not (he's not invited with me to WDW next year!!). Will this make a difference in whether we can both use a DDE card?

Hope this makes sense!

Many thanks

JoC-UK
07-13-2008, 04:04 PM
we got ours in feb and used it for a week, fantastic, we used it at counter service meals and they didnt add the tip and we saved aourn $50 in a week. We are going out there for our wedding in 7 weeks so I think we will use it alot then



Hi

I thought that it didn't include Counter serice meals where were you able to use it for these? it might make it worthwhile getting one for me if you can I'm not quite sure at the moment - if you can use it at most of the parks it will make a big difference presumably you can't use it for snacks e.t.c as well?

Thanks:)

earthelves
07-13-2008, 04:19 PM
I think that it depends on how many of you there are in your group. We bought one last year and didn't make our $60 back as there are only 2 of us, AND you can't use them in Cinderellas royal table! Which is usually our main treat.:confused:

I Just Had A Look On AllEars And According To There List You Can Indeed Use The DDE For Cinderella's Royal Table:)

:thumbsup2

wayneg
07-13-2008, 04:30 PM
Full details and everywhere it can be used taken from Disney's site.

Now you can savor the flavors of the Disney restaurants you love and save big too! The Disney Dining Experience Membership includes Theme Park restaurants like Crystal Palace and Pizzafari, Character dining, and even upscale Resort restaurants like California Grill. Passholders receive $25 off the regular price of the Disney Dining Experience Membership. For only $60, join* this culinary club which boasts a buffet of benefits. It's the ultimate food lover's feast.

Benefits include:

20% discount on all food and beverages at over 70 participating Resort hotel and Theme Park restaurants (discount is valid for a party of up to 10 Guests).
Resort and Theme Park parking for dining purposes
Invitations to special member-only food and wine events, winemaker dinners and celebrity chef dinners
And more!
Join the Disney Dining Experience now! Download your membership application or Call (407) 566-5858† (Monday - Friday, 9:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. EST) for more information or to purchase your annual membership at the Passholder price of $60. Add a second membership for your spouse or partner for only $25 more! (Due to popular demand, we are experiencing high call volume. To avoid waiting on the phone, simply mail or fax your application to us!

Please note that once information for an application is received, it takes 2 weeks for your card to be processed, mailed and delivered to your home address. Effective November 11, 2007 for immediate purchase you may now visit Guest Relations at the following locations Epcot®, MAGIC KINGDOM® Park, DISNEY'S ANIMAL KINGDOM® Theme Park, Disney-MGM Studios or DOWNTOWN DISNEY® at the Walt Disney World® Resort.

Resort valet services is complimentary to members this privilege will only be extended to one vehicle per membership card. Presenting a dining receipt at the Valet Stand upon retrieving your vehicle(s) is required.

Disney Dining Experience members will receive complimentary parking at all Walt Disney World® Resort Theme Parks after 5:00 p.m. daily by showing their membership card. Theme park admission is required for dining in all Theme Park restaurant locations. Blackout dates for the Disney Dining Experience are Mothers Day, Easter Sunday, Independence Day, Thanksgiving Day, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve and New Year's Day.
Effective January 1, 2008 a charge of 18% gratuity will be added to all transactions, regardless of party size.

Here's the most current list of restaurants participating in Disney's Dining Experience. You can print this page for future reference.

Disney's All-Star Movies Resort – World Premiere Food Court
Disney's All-Star Music Resort – Intermission Food Court
Disney's All-Star Sports Resort – End Zone Food Court
Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge – Boma - The Flavors of Africa, Jiko - The Cooking Place, Victoria Falls
Disney's Beach Club Resort – Beaches & Cream Soda Shop (excludes take-out shop), Cape May Cafe, Martha's Vineyard Lounge
Disney's BoardWalk – ESPN® Club, Flying Fish Cafe, Spoodles, Bellevue Lounge
Disney's Eagle Pines and Osprey Ridge Golf Club – Sand Trap Bar & Grill
Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort – Shutters at Old Port Royale
Disney's Contemporary Resort – California Grill, Chef Mickey's, Concourse Steakhouse, Outer Rim Lounge
Disney's Coronado Springs Resort – Maya Grill
Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground – Crockett's Tavern, Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue (9:30 p.m. show only), Trail's End Restaurant
Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa – 1900 Park Fare, Citricos, Garden View Lounge, Grand Floridian Cafe, Mizner's Lounge, Narcoossee's, Victoria & Albert's (excludes Chef's Table)
Disney's Old Key West Resort – Olivia's Cafe
Disney's Polynesian Resort – Kona Cafe, 'Ohana, Tambu Lounge, Disney's Spirit of Aloha Dinner Show (Late show only)
Disney's Pop Century Resort – Classic Concoctions, Everything Pop Shopping and Dining
Disney's Port Orleans Resort – French Quarter - Sassagoula Floatworks & Food Factory, Scat Cat's Club
Disney's Port Orleans Resort – Riverside - Boatwright's Dining Hall, River Roost
Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort – The Artist Palette; The Turf Club Bar & Grill
Disney's Vero Beach Resort – : The Green Cabin Room, Shutter's and Sonya's (except Sunday Brunch)
Disney's Wilderness Lodge – Artist Point, Territory Lounge, Whispering Canyon Cafe
Disney's Yacht Club Resort – Captain's Grille, Ale and Compass Lounge, Yachtsman Steakhouse, Crews Cup Lounge
DOWNTOWN DISNEY® – Marketplace - Cap'n Jack's Restaurant
DOWNTOWN DISNEY® – Pleasure Island - Raglan Road™ Irish Pub and Restaurant
DOWNTOWN DISNEY® – West Side - Planet Hollywood®
Epcot® – Tutto Italia Ristorante, Chefs de France, Nine Dragons Restaurant, San Angel Inn Restaurante, Bistro de Paris Restaurant, Le Cellier Steakhouse, Biergarten Restaurant, Restaurant Marrakesh, Restaurant Akershus, Rose & Crown Pub & Dining Room, The Garden Grill, Coral Reef Restaurant
Disney's Hollywood Studios™ – Hollywood & Vine, 50's Prime Time Cafe, Tune-In Lounge, Mama Melrose's Ristorante Italiano, Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater Restaurant, The Hollywood Brown Derby
Magic Kingdom® Park – The Crystal Palace, Cinderella's Royal Table, Liberty Tree Tavern, The Plaza Restaurant, Tony's Town Square Restaurant
Disney's Animal Kingdom® Theme Park – Tusker House Restaurant, Pizzafari, Flame Tree Barbeque, Restaurantosaurus




Entertainment & Dancing



DOWNTOWN DISNEY® Pleasure Island
Half-price admission on a single day ticket for each Club Member, except for specially priced events. On September 28, 2008, all of the nightclubs on Pleasure Island will close, and it'll be last call for the last time at 8TRAX, The Adventurers Club, Mannequins™ Dance Palace, BET SoundStage™ Club, Motion and The Comedy Warehouse. If you have further questions, or would like more information, please call 407-827-2281.

Atlantic Dance Hall – Disney's BoardWalk
Admission is free for members and guest.

JoC-UK
07-13-2008, 04:42 PM
Thanks for this - so it only seems to be at AK of the Theme Parks that you can use it a Counter Service

I will probably end up getting it but not sure if it will save me that much - I guess I will add it up this time and see in future if it's worth it - I'm assuming I have to buy one every year

earthelves
07-13-2008, 05:01 PM
Full details and everywhere it can be used taken from Disney's site.

Now you can savor the flavors of the Disney restaurants you love and save big too! The Disney Dining Experience Membership includes Theme Park restaurants like Crystal Palace and Pizzafari, Character dining, and even upscale Resort restaurants like California Grill. Passholders receive $25 off the regular price of the Disney Dining Experience Membership. For only $60, join* this culinary club which boasts a buffet of benefits. It's the ultimate food lover's feast.

Benefits include:

20% discount on all food and beverages at over 70 participating Resort hotel and Theme Park restaurants (discount is valid for a party of up to 10 Guests).
Resort and Theme Park parking for dining purposes
Invitations to special member-only food and wine events, winemaker dinners and celebrity chef dinners
And more!
Join the Disney Dining Experience now! Download your membership application or Call (407) 566-5858† (Monday - Friday, 9:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. EST) for more information or to purchase your annual membership at the Passholder price of $60. Add a second membership for your spouse or partner for only $25 more! (Due to popular demand, we are experiencing high call volume. To avoid waiting on the phone, simply mail or fax your application to us!

Please note that once information for an application is received, it takes 2 weeks for your card to be processed, mailed and delivered to your home address. Effective November 11, 2007 for immediate purchase you may now visit Guest Relations at the following locations Epcot®, MAGIC KINGDOM® Park, DISNEY'S ANIMAL KINGDOM® Theme Park, Disney-MGM Studios or DOWNTOWN DISNEY® at the Walt Disney World® Resort.

Resort valet services is complimentary to members this privilege will only be extended to one vehicle per membership card. Presenting a dining receipt at the Valet Stand upon retrieving your vehicle(s) is required.

Disney Dining Experience members will receive complimentary parking at all Walt Disney World® Resort Theme Parks after 5:00 p.m. daily by showing their membership card. Theme park admission is required for dining in all Theme Park restaurant locations. Blackout dates for the Disney Dining Experience are Mothers Day, Easter Sunday, Independence Day, Thanksgiving Day, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, New Year's Eve and New Year's Day.
Effective January 1, 2008 a charge of 18% gratuity will be added to all transactions, regardless of party size.

Here's the most current list of restaurants participating in Disney's Dining Experience. You can print this page for future reference.

Disney's All-Star Movies Resort – World Premiere Food Court
Disney's All-Star Music Resort – Intermission Food Court
Disney's All-Star Sports Resort – End Zone Food Court
Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge – Boma - The Flavors of Africa, Jiko - The Cooking Place, Victoria Falls
Disney's Beach Club Resort – Beaches & Cream Soda Shop (excludes take-out shop), Cape May Cafe, Martha's Vineyard Lounge
Disney's BoardWalk – ESPN® Club, Flying Fish Cafe, Spoodles, Bellevue Lounge
Disney's Eagle Pines and Osprey Ridge Golf Club – Sand Trap Bar & Grill
Disney's Caribbean Beach Resort – Shutters at Old Port Royale
Disney's Contemporary Resort – California Grill, Chef Mickey's, Concourse Steakhouse, Outer Rim Lounge
Disney's Coronado Springs Resort – Maya Grill
Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground – Crockett's Tavern, Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue (9:30 p.m. show only), Trail's End Restaurant
Disney's Grand Floridian Resort & Spa – 1900 Park Fare, Citricos, Garden View Lounge, Grand Floridian Cafe, Mizner's Lounge, Narcoossee's, Victoria & Albert's (excludes Chef's Table)
Disney's Old Key West Resort – Olivia's Cafe
Disney's Polynesian Resort – Kona Cafe, 'Ohana, Tambu Lounge, Disney's Spirit of Aloha Dinner Show (Late show only)
Disney's Pop Century Resort – Classic Concoctions, Everything Pop Shopping and Dining
Disney's Port Orleans Resort – French Quarter - Sassagoula Floatworks & Food Factory, Scat Cat's Club
Disney's Port Orleans Resort – Riverside - Boatwright's Dining Hall, River Roost
Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort – The Artist Palette; The Turf Club Bar & Grill
Disney's Vero Beach Resort – : The Green Cabin Room, Shutter's and Sonya's (except Sunday Brunch)
Disney's Wilderness Lodge – Artist Point, Territory Lounge, Whispering Canyon Cafe
Disney's Yacht Club Resort – Captain's Grille, Ale and Compass Lounge, Yachtsman Steakhouse, Crews Cup Lounge
DOWNTOWN DISNEY® – Marketplace - Cap'n Jack's Restaurant
DOWNTOWN DISNEY® – Pleasure Island - Raglan Road™ Irish Pub and Restaurant
DOWNTOWN DISNEY® – West Side - Planet Hollywood®
Epcot® – Tutto Italia Ristorante, Chefs de France, Nine Dragons Restaurant, San Angel Inn Restaurante, Bistro de Paris Restaurant, Le Cellier Steakhouse, Biergarten Restaurant, Restaurant Marrakesh, Restaurant Akershus, Rose & Crown Pub & Dining Room, The Garden Grill, Coral Reef Restaurant
Disney's Hollywood Studios™ – Hollywood & Vine, 50's Prime Time Cafe, Tune-In Lounge, Mama Melrose's Ristorante Italiano, Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater Restaurant, The Hollywood Brown Derby
Magic Kingdom® Park – The Crystal Palace, Cinderella's Royal Table, Liberty Tree Tavern, The Plaza Restaurant, Tony's Town Square Restaurant
Disney's Animal Kingdom® Theme Park – Tusker House Restaurant, Pizzafari, Flame Tree Barbeque, Restaurantosaurus




Entertainment & Dancing



DOWNTOWN DISNEY® Pleasure Island
Half-price admission on a single day ticket for each Club Member, except for specially priced events. On September 28, 2008, all of the nightclubs on Pleasure Island will close, and it'll be last call for the last time at 8TRAX, The Adventurers Club, Mannequins™ Dance Palace, BET SoundStage™ Club, Motion and The Comedy Warehouse. If you have further questions, or would like more information, please call 407-827-2281.

Atlantic Dance Hall – Disney's BoardWalk
Admission is free for members and guest.

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