Okay I'm venting...

[Mandy aka Minnie]

For the first time ever, I have decided to let everyone know exactly what I think. I see so many people griping because they didn't get the room they wanted at the Yacht Club or they don't have a Magic Kingdom view at the Grand Floridian. Quite frankly it's getting on my nerves. Get over it! Just be glad you're getting to stay on Disney property. Period. Or just be glad you're going at all. There's alot of people out there who don't have the 'burdon' of choosing between a Deluxe or a Value or a Moderate. And do you know why? Because they're not going to Disney World at all. I can totally understand being terribly confused about where to stay, and it's totally normal to have a million questions and want others' opinions, but some of you act like it's the end of the world because you don't get to stay where you want -- even though several of you have people who are paying for your trip!!!!!! Hello!! Wake up!!! Don't you realize that there are far more important things in this world than getting a Savannah View room at the Animal Kingdom Lodge?? I hate to sound so awful, but some of you need to stop and think about this. I love visiting these boards and chatting with everyone, but lately some people have gotten a little selfish. I hope I don't make any one mad, but this has been bothering me for a while now, and I just wanted to let everyone know that some of you are sending out a bad signal to first-timers to these boards. I am very sorry if I have made anyone mad, but this has really been bothering me, up to the point where I thought about just finding other message boards. Hasn't this been bothering anyone esle?

[Bob NC]

I agree!!!

I think there's some folks who ought to let the whole "EE" deal go too!!!! Sure I realize some people liked it, but we don't need to hear about it in EVERY post some people make.

[KCritter]

Mandy, I know what you mean. I'm always amazed at the people who say "My trip was RUINED because I didn't get_______ {fill in the blank - 'to see Spectro' or 'a lagoon view' or 'there was no EE' etc, etc.}. I'm usually just so thrilled to be on vacation that I don't let the picky stuff bother me. I don't know if these folks are being overly dramatic or just like to complain or possibly want to be help other people avoid potential problems.


On the other hand, we have been very blessed, and we get to go to Disneyworld a lot - at least once a year if not twice. If I don't see something on this trip, oh well, there's always next time. (Thank you DVC!) However, there are a lot of people out there that this is a once-in-a-lifetime experience and something they've been dreaming about, planning and saving for YEARS to do. I do feel sorry for these folks when things don't work out like they thought they would.

Maybe too, it's only when people have complaints that we hear from them. For every complaint there are probably 100 people who had a great trip, but it would get a bit dull on the board to read "Just back, everything was swell" over and over again.

[gepetto]

I don't think it's selfish at all for people here to try to get the most from their vacation dollar. It dosen't get on my nerves when people ask for example which building has the best view, which resort is the most convenient to MK...etc. I am glad I have the experiences of the people here on the trip planning boards to rely on when I plan my vacations. Sorry if we're getting on your nerves, BTW.

[AF Brenda]

I can understand people wanting to have certain rooms in certain resorts with certain views. I have my preferences also. I didn't get anywhere near the section I requested on our recent trip to CSR, in fact they put me in a non-smoking building opposite from where I had requested. Did it ruin my vacation? NO WAY!! I was happy to be at WDW, and to be staying at such a great resort. I was disappointed for about 1 second when I got my room assignment. I think that folks often hold on to something way too long, instead of just going with the flow.

[LemonDietCoke]

Thanks for posting this Mandy. I'm new here and I thought I was the only one who read these posts and thought that way. Maybe I need to keep looking around to find another BB where people have more perspective. I'm not looking for a place where everything is sunshine and lollipops, but just perspective.

[Mandy aka Minnie]

gepetto -- I know everyone has their own preferences. Even I have my own! But some people are getting very worked up about silly things... Like EE... I totally agree with Bob NC!!! I know there will always be something that you want to get out of your vacation, wether it's a certain room or Cindy's ressies (dare I mention that) But some people dwell on it, too much. I hate to see people worry so much over things that can't me helped!

[Humpbacks1962]

You know, easier than getting aggravated by it or starting a controversy, whenever you open a post with those messages, click it shut!

Wanda

[Mandy aka Minnie]

gepetto -- I know everyone has their own preferences. Even I have my own! And of course most of us are always going to request a certain room. But some people are getting very worked up about silly things... Like EE... I totally agree with Bob NC!!! I know there will always be something that you want to get out of your vacation, wether it's a certain room or Cindy's ressies (dare I mention that) But some people dwell on it too much. I hate to see people worry so much over things that can't me helped! AF Brenda, your're right... Just go with the flow! :D

[AF Brenda]

What I see alot, and I wonder about, is people that are "afraid" of CSR because it is a convention hotel. These are not pod people, they are business people, and I don't understand the fear factor involved with a convention hotel.

[Mandy aka Minnie]

Humpbacks1962 -- I know exactly what you mean!! But, it's hard to bypass these posts when you're looking for information about a resort. Plus there are so many of these posts lately that it's hard to ignore.

[gepetto]

Mandy, what I DO see lately are more people booking standard view rooms at the deluxe resorts with these new discount codes thinking they'll get upgraded for example to a woods view (WL) or a savannah view (AKL). I think chances are that they're going to get the room type they booked. Do you think that's the cause for some of these posts you're talking about?

I guess I don't read the Cindy's threads because I've never been interested in going there.

Let's all talk about EE for a while and tick off Bob NC ;)

[Sammie]

I think what you will get here is a lot of life.

This is a huge forum group of people. The largest on the net.

The more people you have, you will have more information, more opinions and yes more whiners.

Just the nature of the beast.

[Bob NC]

gepetto...lol...good one....EE complaints DO get me going....

But anyway...How do you like the posts recently from people asking how to get upgrades from value to deluxe resorts?...Folks expecting an upgrade could start their vacation off on the wrong foot by being really P.O.'d if they are EXPECTING upgrades.

I've never asked for an upgrade, and I get them frequently. It's always a view upgrade, (Not resort upgrade), and I think we get them just by being friendly. I used to work front desk in a hotel while attending college and I never gave an upgrade to anyone who asked for one. Hold it.....I gave ONE upgrade to someone who asked, but then after they complained about not getting enough of an upgrade, I never gave one to someone asking for it again.

[Bumbles]

Sammie....your comment of "This is a huge forum group of people. The largest on the net. "

Um sweetie, where do you get your facts from?..hate to burst your bubble...but this place isn't even close to being the largest forum of people on the net.

[Mandy aka Minnie]

Ooohhhh! I could go on and on about the removal of EE... :D ;) :D Just kidding. :D :p

gepetto -- Now that you mention it, I have noticed the large amount of people who are trying to get almost rediculous upgrades. Next time, I'm going to try to get an upgrade from the All Star Music to Cinderella Castle. Is there a code for that? :D :D

And there are alot of members on this board. Even if it's not the largest on the net.

[Disneylvr]

I never read the posts about requesting an upgrade from a value to a deluxe! I would be interested in reading the responses to that! :) Bob NC could you tell me where to find that thread?

I for one have never asked for an upgrade nor have I ever received one. But I still have had a wonderful time at WDW and it definately didn't ruin my vacation. I am just grateful I get to go so often even if it means staying at All Stars (which I think is a fantastic resort for the price), view isn't important! IMHO.....................

[Mandy aka Minnie]

Disneylvr -- I love the All Stars too!! I honestly don't see how people could complain about them, they're wonderful!!! Certainly much better that a Best Western or Motel 6. :D ;)

[GeorgeG]

You have a perfectly legitimate vent, Mandy.

I'm reminded of people who will complain about a free lunch. We've never been disappointed at WDW, even when we didn't get our favorite room or view. If that is all it takes to ruin someone's vacation, then maybe they'd be happier someplace else. It's a free country.

[10drum]

Our first trip to wdw was a lagoon veiw at the poly. We didn't know about these boards or anything. We paid rack rate and got a room with a tree blocking our view of everything, so what! We had such a great time, we've been back every year since, we just don't care about the room, we're never there, except when we sleep.
Cro has always been great, the resorts are great. There is no place on earth that delivers a finer vacation than wdw. (period)

[RobinLyn]

Everyone has a right to expression or dialogue, thank goodness we live in a free country. Whether it's the Yacht Club or an AS Resort, the excitment people talk about is the same. I think it's all great! This is not going to change here or anywhere else any time soon, the fact that some people can do more or spend more than others. So does this mean some here shouldn't express their excitement because they are able to stay at a deluxe? Do some people lose site of what's important in life? Of course, we all do. But please don't rain on someone else's parade!

RobinLyn:)

[DMRick]

I see so many people griping because they didn't get the room they wanted at the Yacht Club or they don't have a Magic Kingdom view at the Grand Floridian

I see people commenting on if they did or didn't, and excitement if they had a great view..but other than someone paying big bucks for a special room, and being disappointed when they see a wall..I'm not seeing what you are seeing. I'd be upset if I paid for a deluxe, with a view and saw a wall or highway too. Not that this has ever happened, since we've always been lucky to have great rooms, and up til next month, have only stayed at All Stars. Even then we are only moving up to a moderate. I have never felt bad when I have read someone is staying in a fancy hotel on Dis property..just happy for them. I could never justify paying all those bucks..but they sure don't have to justify it to me. Good for them, and I love to read their happiness.

Or just be glad you're going at all. There's alot of people out there who don't have the 'burdon' of choosing between a Deluxe or a Value or a Moderate.

I've never had that burden, but I'm not sure why (unless someone is jealous), it would be something to "vent" about, that others can afford something more expensive and still want an upgrade or the "most" for their money. I don't have a problem with others sharing about their good luck..someday maybe we'll have enough money (although I would prob still stay in a less expensive place..and spend the money on yummy food) to have this burden.

And do you know why? Because they're not going to Disney World at all.

Then chances are good, they aren't on this board, and they won't feel bad that they can't go..after all, this is a board about what to see, how to do it, and getting the most for your time and money at Disney....isn't it?

even though several of you have people who are paying for your trip!

I sure haven't seen many of them...but even if someone isn't paying their own way, how lucky they are to get treated special at Disney.

Wake up!!! Don't you realize that there are far more important things in this world than getting a Savannah View room at the Animal Kingdom Lodge??

Yes, uh..things sure are tough for a lot of folks...and you are right! Most everything is more important than these rooms..but after all, this is the DISNEY board. Lots of lists out there for discussing the world issues. This is a magical list, where most of us are here to plan vacations..maybe to get away from everyday pain.

I just wanted to let everyone know that some of you are sending out a bad signal to first-timers to these boards

Now that I have noticed..seems when new folks have questions about mugs and swimming at other resorts (becasue they are new, and aren't "savy" like us!), they often get jumped on. But I sure never got the impression, that suggesting that you ask if they have an upgrade available, or a room with a view, would be a turn off to new people. I never would have thought of asking for a room by a pool, if I hadn't read it here. I didn't know it was allowed...and I think those of you who told me about it. My last room at Sports was right by the pool! I know I'm always happy when people "brag" about the great prices they got with a code..and I trot myself right over to see if it wil be helpful for me!

Maybe it's time for you to rest from some of the threads that really bother you..or maybe even put some of the posters on ignore (if this is available on this list..I don't know, I've not tried it). Or..maybe it's time to plan a really relaxing vacation somewhere...hmmm, anyone have any suggestions?

[WDWalways]

Originally posted by AF Brenda
I can understand people wanting to have certain rooms in certain resorts with certain views. I have my preferences also. I didn't get anywhere near the section I requested on our recent trip to CSR, in fact they put me in a non-smoking building opposite from where I had requested. Did it ruin my vacation? NO WAY!! I was happy to be at WDW, and to be staying at such a great resort. I was disappointed for about 1 second when I got my room assignment. I think that folks often hold on to something way too long, instead of just going with the flow.

I just wanted to agree with this post -- when I stayed at the Yacht Club I was very disappointed in how far my room was from the elevator - after walking around the parks all day I did NOT want another hike from the lobby to my room BUT it did NOT ruin my vacation - I was THRILLED to even be staying at the Yacht Club which is tied for my fave resort there and I can not afford to stay there as often as I like so if my room was open-air on the roof I would have been happy!!! :D And it was during Hurricane Floyd!!!

[bobcat]

AF Brenda ROTFLMAO!! Pod people!! :D That's what those things were! The first time I was at CSR I had to look for the convention center. I was too focused on how beautiful the resort was to notice anything else.

We all get a little excited about planning our trips, but agree that we can sometimes get out of control. ;)

[CamColt]

Originally posted by Mandy aka Minnie
[gepetto -- Now that you mention it, I have noticed the large amount of people who are trying to get almost rediculous upgrades. Next time, I'm going to try to get an upgrade from the All Star Music to Cinderella Castle. Is there a code for that? :D :D
[/B]

Mandy, dont know about a code but maybe if you tell them its your birthday or anniversary they will give it to you...after all you did have a birthday this year, didnt you? :rolleyes: :D

[CrzyforPiglet]

I agree with you Mandy and applaud you for saying what I've only been thinking. I for one am very grateful to be able to afford a WDW vacation even if it is only every couple of years and I guess I hold the same mentality no matter where I go that if I get a complimentary upgrade or better room then I count myself as very lucky and thankful. I don't know of too many other resorts that even take into consideration specific building/room/floor/view requests. Usually it is just smoking or non - king or queen and that is it. I don't understand whow you can book a basic room, get put over the service area when the hotel is sold-out and complain. Chances are taken every day on every vacation - what the weather will be like, will the staff be nice, etc. I stayed in a hotel last spring in Arizona and the hallway outside our room had the heat on 100 every day all day. But I lived with the "inconvenience" of being exposed for all of 5 minutes a day and relished in my overall beautiful surroundings.

And as a relatively new poster I can say it did put me off to see people upset over what I thought were small things. I can understand if this is your once in a lifetime trip but in the end if you get yourself upset over the small stuff sometimes the only one affected is you.

[Misti]

Originally posted by Bumbles
Sammie....your comment of "This is a huge forum group of people. The largest on the net. "

Um sweetie, where do you get your facts from?..hate to burst your bubble...but this place isn't even close to being the largest forum of people on the net.

I'm not sure of the exact figures. But, I know this is one of the largest, if not THE largest, Disney related message board site on the net.

:)

[chris1gill]

Hmm, I kind of agree with the thread here.... there's nothing worse than seeing thread that says "Our vacation was ruined with?" Where it was someone knocking on their door, or some part of the carpet that was worn or it was that the pool was closed down for a night, or something that is so trivial that they should be woken up to the reality that they were in the happiest place on earth... BE HAPPY... Believe me our trips are often NOT perfect & I'm lucky if one of us doesn't need to go to the hospital at least once (and no I'm not kidding)... We have a revolving account at Celebration Health (okay that's stretching it)... COME ON EVERYONE... if you get what you paid for, BE HAPPY... if you paid for a water view & you got water, or you paid for a standard view & you got a wall, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!!!

Now, me on the other hand, we stayed at CSR, we paid for a waterview & we got a view of the laundrymat... you can bet I complained & got my waterview, that's after arriving without our lost luggage!!! Later in this 4 day trip our son got violently sick, yup over to Cel. Health... then we called the airline, couldn't switch our flight without paying the switching fee even though our DS was just released from the hospital.. of course we showed up at the airport & our flight was CANCELLED... we drove right back to the BWV's for the night & had a great dinner, left the next day with a healthy kid & a good meal to add to our weekend... Man, if anything could have gone wrong, it did and WE STILL HAD A GOOD TIME (yes, I was going somewhere with that story!!)

My number one word of experience to my friends is, that SOMETHING in your trip is going to go wrong... it IS, you need to expect that SOMETHING may happen and if it does, you need to deal with it & not let it ruin your experience... As long as everyones healthy, DON'T COMPLAIN!!!! I think that's one thing about the boards, it gives you a false sense that everything is going to go PERFECTLY & it rarely does!

[RobinLyn]

LOL chris!!! Celebration Health....you are so right!

But I still say let everyone who wants to vent! If a torn carpet ruins your vacation, we appreciate the laugh. If your view was awful, ask for a different room and move on. But I love reading these posts regardless. Some are funny and others are just silly. Chris, you vacation story is sad and I won't wish that on anyone. How the heck did you enjoy that vacation? God bless you Chris!

RobinLyn:)

[DMRick]

Now, me on the other hand, we stayed at CSR, we paid for a waterview & we got a view of the laundrymat... you can bet I complained & got my waterview,

Exactly..and at least what I'm reading, these are the kind of complaints I read about on this board..and those are real reasons to complain. I seldom read that someone paid for a standard room and are now complaining that they didn't get the castle view (I have read where people asked and paid for a much better room, and got a lousy view..and although I don't stay anywhere near the castle, I also can understand the disappoinment after spending a lot of money).

I often read where someone comes back, happy because they got an unexpected or unasked for upgrade (and I don't see anything wrong with someone asking for one, and maybe being just a tad disappointed that one wasn't available..I don't think that that then makes uncaring of a lessor persons plight, or uncaring of all the bad things going on in the world today do you?).

I just went back and re-read several posts..and I just don't see rampant complaining that people were unhappy with their lot in life at Disney. Sure they may ask for info, so they don't end up way in the back and have a long ways to walk on the next vacation, but I don't see anything wrong with trying to have the best vacation for your money you can have.

On the other hand, if you are able to afford the best, paid for the best, good for you, and I want to hear about your trip as well as the trip to the Allstars (where there is never a bad room LOL)!!

[Neeter]

Great post Mandy! I'm glad you were brave enough to post it! LOL! It always cracks me up to hear some of the "complaints" around here sometime. Sometimes it seems that those with the most amount of trips a year, seem to complain the most about the small stuff. I don't have the luxury of going more than once a year. I guess I'm soo thrilled by the fact that I'm actually getting to go that I couldn't care less about the little things.

We have vowed to stay at All Stars from now on and spend our money on other things during our trip and we haven't regretted it yet. The All Star Movies is just fine for us. It always cracks me up to read the posts talking about how "small" the rooms are! To read some of the posts here sometimes you'd think they were in reality matchbox size or something! LOL! We've stayed at DL and would never choose it over ASMO again.

Of course there are also very legitimate complaints here. i.e. CRO! Oh lord I have felt so bad for all the people that have had their vacations almost ruined by CRO! I'll have to tell you most of them seem to be able to control themselves more than I could it it were me! I'd be on the phone, every minute, until it was corrected. A guest should never have to suffer because of CRO's incompetence!

I think we all should never forget how lucky we are to be able to go to Disney even one time!
:D

[annemariec]

You know, this is a vacation planning board.

Most times people aren't just venting about room assignments. It's usually several things that have gone wrong and they want to communicate their experience. Who are we to judge if it's an trivial or not? It doesn't bother me. I've learned a lot from the reports on the good, bad and the ugly. If it was all good reports this board would be unrealistic and boring.

If it's bothersome, the best thing to do it avoid it altogether. You can usually tell by the post line if it will be positive or not.


Annemarie

[chris1gill]

Originally posted by RobinLyn
LOL chris!!! Celebration Health....you are so right!

But I still say let everyone who wants to vent! If a torn carpet ruins your vacation, we appreciate the laugh. If your view was awful, no one really cares. But I love reading these posts regardless. Some are funny and others are just silly. Chris, you vacation story is sad and I won't wish that on anyone. How the heck did you enjoy that vacation? God bless you Chris!

RobinLyn:)

Hey RobinLyn,

It wasn't meant to be sad, honest to god we had a good time after I got over the shock of being placed across from the laundry!!! Although, I didn't mention it took an hour to check in at 10pm... Believe me, that's one weekend we won't forget!!!

I enjoyed it because I felt I was in the happiest place on earth!! I guess because we've gone several times now, we've learned to expect things to go wrong & we also know that usually these things can be fixed... If they can't be fixed, I can come to the board to vent... believe me I think I did come to the boards to vent after being downgraded to the laundry view & having our flight CANCELLED!!!

[Poly Pal]

Oh Mandy (wasn't that a song from the 70's?), I have to agree with you! Doesn't anyone remember the lady whose "vacation was ruined because there was no milk for her son at the Polynesian?" Or the couple whose "vacation was ruined because they served Coke rather than Pepsi in the concierge lounge?" Just plain silly (and awfully shallow) IMHO. But hey that's life!

Still I think it is great that folks from all around the country can come here looking for info, to pose a question, get or offer advice and share their Disney experiences. Lets not be so hard on each other. Save that pent up anger for the pool hoppers....oops - almost got up on my soapbox!:D

[Poly Pal]

Chris1Gill,

Water View - laundry view? If it wasn't a dry cleaner...there might be a funny argument there. "But sir, there's lots of water in the laundry room." LOL!

[AF Brenda]

When people pay for a specific view, and they don't get it, they should absolutely complain about it. And they should be able to come here and talk about their experience without being made to feel like malcontent misfits.

Having said that, I still think that people get way riled up over stuff that, to me personally, would just not be a big deal. I think that is what Mandy was talking about.

[Jen D]

I agree with you, DMRick. I don't see this rampant negativity everyone else is talking about, either, but I certainly think people are entitled to vent now and then without being told they should just be happy to be going to DisneyWorld at all. Naturally we all know that plenty of people in the world have bigger problems; that is why we come to the Disney planning board to talk about these niggling little vacation planning snags. There is no one else who would care, listen, or even know what the heck we're talking about!

My last (and only) WDW vacation went off flawlessly, with no disappointments, so I don't think I've been guilty of being a "complainer", but I certainly don't begrudge anyone letting off a little steam when things didn't go as planned.

[Gabrielle]

Jen Dawson,

I completely agree with you. I don't see the rampant negatively, either. The complaining or venting threads are pretty clearly identified as such so, if these kinds of messages get on your nerves, you always have the option of ignoring them.

If complaining about DWorld - in light of all that ails us - is indicative of some underlying problem with the poster ... then, what does complaining about the complaining indicate?

I love Dworld. My 10th trip is coming up. The first my husband and I took, in 1986 was disappointing. Since then, I've had wonderul trips. Obviously....I keep coming back! But, I want to hear about the bad, along with the good, so I get the most from my vacation dollar.

[ducklite]

I think that some complaints are more than valid. Complaining about being downgraded, complaining about a safety hazard, complaining about very poor service, these are all valid. But you are right. People who complain that their trip was ruined because they had pink flowers rather than purple ones outside their room, or something along those lines really need to rethink their priorities.

Agreed that people who complain because they didn't get an upgrade or the exact view they wanted really have nothing to complain about. WDW doesn't guarantee rooms or views, unless you reserve a specific suite for major bucks, etc. I've been extremely fortunate to have superb castle views on both stays at the GF. But I've also had some pretty yucky views at the BC and the All Stars. I chock it up to luck of the draw. You can't always have it all.

Yes, when there has been a real problem, such as terrible service, then complaining is warranted, provided you also address it with someone at WDW who can help to address the problem so others don't also encounter it.

But you know how it goes. You just can't please some people. But complaining that a vacation was ruined because of a view or a brand of soda makes me wonder if the real problem wasn't something much deeper and from within.

On the flip side, I think that some complaints are more offered as warnings or constructive criticisms.

Anne

[ducklite]

Originally posted by Neeter
We have vowed to stay at All Stars from now on and spend our money on other things during our trip and we haven't regretted it yet. The All Star Movies is just fine for us. It always cracks me up to read the posts talking about how "small" the rooms are! To read some of the posts here sometimes you'd think they were in reality matchbox size or something!

I'd like to point out that the room size is subjective. In my case, the rooms there are smaller than my bedroom at home. So for me, they do feel matchbox sized.

Anne

[Mandy aka Minnie]

Originally posted by Poly Pal
Just plain silly (and awfully shallow) IMHO.

'Shallow' -- That's the word I was looking for!!!

[Mandy aka Minnie]

Originally posted by AF Brenda
When people pay for a specific view, and they don't get it, they should absolutely complain about it. And they should be able to come here and talk about their experience without being made to feel like malcontent misfits.

Having said that, I still think that people get way riled up over stuff that, to me personally, would just not be a big deal. I think that is what Mandy was talking about.

That's exactly what I'm talking about! If you have paid for your water view room, you should get it!!! But some people pay for the standard view rooms, then actually plan on asking for their upgrade to a water view room, and they get mad when they don't get it!

[Mandy aka Minnie]

Originally posted by Gabrielle
Jen Dawson,

I completely agree with you. I don't see the rampant negatively, either. The complaining or venting threads are pretty clearly identified as such so, if these kinds of messages get on your nerves, you always have the option of ignoring them.

Of course we can ignore them. But when the title of the post is something like "My stay at the CSR" or "Just back from AKL" we want to read them to get information. Alot of these have petty negative comments in them.

[Mandy aka Minnie]

Originally posted by DMRick


I see people commenting on if they did or didn't, and excitement if they had a great view..but other than someone paying big bucks for a special room, and being disappointed when they see a wall..I'm not seeing what you are seeing. I'd be upset if I paid for a deluxe, with a view and saw a wall or highway too. Not that this has ever happened, since we've always been lucky to have great rooms, and up til next month, have only stayed at All Stars. Even then we are only moving up to a moderate. I have never felt bad when I have read someone is staying in a fancy hotel on Dis property..just happy for them. I could never justify paying all those bucks..but they sure don't have to justify it to me. Good for them, and I love to read their happiness.

***I love to read about wonderful deluxe stays also!! But what you're talking about is something totally different than what my frustration is about.


I've never had that burden, but I'm not sure why (unless someone is jealous), it would be something to "vent" about, that others can afford something more expensive and still want an upgrade or the "most" for their money. I don't have a problem with others sharing about their good luck..someday maybe we'll have enough money (although I would prob still stay in a less expensive place..and spend the money on yummy food) to have this burden.

***Oh my! I'm not jealous, if that's what you're implying! I have no reason to be. I can totally understand wanting and wishing for an upgrade. But again, I don't think you're on the same wavelength as me. I love hearing about others' good luck as well, it makes me very hopeful and gives way to positive thinking for my next trip in May.

Then chances are good, they aren't on this board

***That's not entirely true. I have several friends who read these boards all the time, but they're in college right now and money can only go so far, so there is no possible way they could go to Disney World any time soon. I'm sure there are all kinds of people who read these boards.

I sure haven't seen many of them...but even if someone isn't paying their own way, how lucky they are to get treated special at Disney.

***There are some people who are staying off site, and one who is staying at the All Star Sports. I read one post just recently as a matter of fact. Plus, someone's paying for me to go next month! We'll only be there for 4 days, but I don't care where we stay or what we do, I just want to go to Disney World!


Yes, uh..things sure are tough for a lot of folks...and you are right! Most everything is more important than these rooms..but after all, this is the DISNEY board. Lots of lists out there for discussing the world issues. This is a magical list, where most of us are here to plan vacations..maybe to get away from everyday pain.

***That is a very good point. I totally agree.

Now that I have noticed..seems when new folks have questions about mugs and swimming at other resorts (becasue they are new, and aren't "savy" like us!), they often get jumped on. But I sure never got the impression, that suggesting that you ask if they have an upgrade available, or a room with a view, would be a turn off to new people. I never would have thought of asking for a room by a pool, if I hadn't read it here. I didn't know it was allowed...and I think those of you who told me about it. My last room at Sports was right by the pool! I know I'm always happy when people "brag" about the great prices they got with a code..and I trot myself right over to see if it wil be helpful for me!

***Yet again, that's not what I'm talking about. There is nothing wrong with asking for an upgrade. But when people *expect* an upgrade, then get mad when their every wish is not granded, it's just silly. Or to use Poly Pal's word, shallow.

Maybe it's time for you to rest from some of the threads that really bother you..or maybe even put some of the posters on ignore (if this is available on this list..I don't know, I've not tried it). Or..maybe it's time to plan a really relaxing vacation somewhere...hmmm, anyone have any suggestions?

***Disney World? :D

[DMRick]

***There are some people who are staying off site, and one who is staying at the All Star Sports.

And these are the people you say are complaining on these boards about not getting Disney upgrades? Now I really am confused.

Unfortunately, with just my part being quoted, and not what I was commenting on, your answers don't realy cover the comments I had on your original vent.

Your main complaint was that people just should be happy about going to DW, and shouldn't complain about "the little" things, and you said they should just be happy to be going, because some people can't go. But some of the things I have heard people complain about, aren't so little when you add up what they are paying (there are always a few more silly requests..but as I looked back over the posts on this board..I see so few compared to the great suggestions and ideas I glean from this board..I mean how many people compalin about the kind of soda served..really?).

Also, the part about who reads the boards. You said:

Or just be glad you're going at all. There's alot of people out there who don't have the 'burdon' of choosing between a Deluxe or a Value or a Moderate. And do you know why? Because they're not going to Disney World at all.

Some may be college students, but why would they think people who have worked and saved, shouldn't be trying to get the most for their money. You just said their money can only go so far...so it should be a plus that when they do get to go, they know it's alright to ask for an upgrade..maybe get something more than you thought you would for your money. I assume if they are reading these boards, but have no plans to go to DW, they are reading them for ideas, for when they can go.

There is nothing wrong with asking for an upgrade. But when people *expect* an upgrade, then get mad when their every wish is not granded, it's just silly.

Show me these posts, please. Compared to the amount of posting on this list that are real positive..I'd like to see where there is any signicficant amount of people doing this type of complaining (or even just a few).

I also can see where like you, if someone paid for me to go to Disney, I would think it's ungrateful to complain about where I end up..however, I have no one to pay my way, so I when I do go, I want to at least get what I believe I'm paying for..and if I don't, I hope it's OK to post it here to "warn" others of what to expect.

I'll be there in May also, at POR..where I'm expecting a great time, even if I don't get the room I'm requesting..but if I do..Yippee (and although for information purposes, I may come back here and let people know how I made out..I'll just have to hope people don't see it as complaining).

I don't think you're on the same wavelength as me.
Same wavelength, different opinion and view taken when people come back and tell about their trips.

[Mandy aka Minnie]

Originally posted by DMRick


I also can see where like you, if someone paid for me to go to Disney, I would think it's ungrateful to complain about where I end up..however, I have no one to pay my way, so I when I do go, I want to at least get what I believe I'm paying for..and if I don't, I hope it's OK to post it here to "warn" others of what to expect.

***That is exactly what I'm talking about!!! Of course it's okay to post here to "warn" others!! I can totally understand dissapointment if you don't get to stay on site, but some people are making a big deal about it when it really isn't that big!!

I'll be there in May also, at POR..where I'm expecting a great time, even if I don't get the room I'm requesting..but if I do..Yippee (and although for information purposes, I may come back here and let people know how I made out..I'll just have to hope people don't see it as complaining).

***When are you going to be there? LOL Maybe I could meet the person I'm 'debating' with. :D :D :D BTW, I do hope you have a good trip. :)


Same wavelength, different opinion and view taken when people come back and tell about their trips.

***Maybe this is exactly what it is. But not in all cases.

[Trekker]

This has really turned into a debate on what people should or should not be allowed to post.

My only comment on that is to see the Posting Guidelines (http://www.wdwinfo.com/guidelines.htm).

Seeing as this thread is not discussing Disney Resort information, it is off topic for the Resort board.

If you wish to continue your debate - please feel free to start a new thread on the appropriate board - The Debate Board.

This thread is now closed.