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mum4jenn
06-26-2008, 05:23 PM
It seems any talk of MyPoints AND BzzAgent is being sent to the DISNEY REWARDS forum. I do not understand why because it is not for just getting things for Disney. My post was about getting a JCPenney card which will be used for back to school shopping. I think saving money on back to school clothes is more appropriate on the Budget Board than a Disney Rewards forum since there is not a JCPenney anywhere on Disney property.

For BUDGET Board:
Learn the 'in and outs' of smart earning, saving, and spending your money. Our motto: 'Any dollar saved or earned is another dollar for Disney!' Be sure to visit our DIScounts Page (http://www.wdwinfo.com/discounts.htm)for more Disney money saving tips!



For DISNEY REWARDS:
This forum is for the discussion of various Disney Rewards programs. It is NOT for the purpose of solicitation of referrals in any form. Posts that solicit referrals will be deleted.



Info about Bzzing (getting FREE products to try out) and using MyPoints to get gift cards to save money on "whatever" is "Any dollar saved or earned is another dollar for Disney"




Disclaimer: This post was not written in a mean or rude manner nor was it meant to be taken that way.;)

Newfie2000
06-26-2008, 05:30 PM
I agree with you!:thumbsup2

I had no idea this was happening - I am just used to coming to the Budget board and finding stuff on Bzz Agent, Coke Rewards, MyPoints, etc. here. Are they going to start moving that all over there?:confused3 It does not make sense to pick and choose - kind of sounds like they are either going to have to leave it here or change the name and purpose of the Rewards board.

If they do decide to relocate everything, I have a sneaking suspicion that many of the Budgeteers will be relocating also!::yes::

Oh well, I guess the powers that be will have to decide and I will just follow - but I sure wish someone would provide some clarification....:rolleyes1

bumbershoot
06-26-2008, 05:40 PM
I don't KNOW if this is the answer, but I *believe* that the forum you're talking about was never about "disney rewards", but of rewards sites where you can earn for Disney. When I very first joined one of the sites, there was more than one site offering Disney giftcards and dollars as a redemption option, therefore, they were Disney rewards, if not "disney rewards" as in the $$ you get on a disney rewards card for having a Disney credit card.

I think it's just a problem with the naming of that forum. Maybe they can change it (but I doubt it, b/c when I pointed out a typo in a sub-forum name a year ago, nothing could be done about it...they can't change things later on, I guess).


Also they are VERY worried about people requesting, offering, or offering to offer referrals. If there's even a hint that someone might want to offer their referral there is trouble. I once told someone if they had more questions about something to PM me (b/c we were taking over another person's thread), and I got in trouble for soliciting a referral and an inappropriate link, when NO suggestion (or thought of it) was made at all (and I hadn't put a link to anywhere in the post). Of course it's hard to find rules in any one place, and I looked and looked when that happened, b/c I hadn't done anything wrong that I could find, just the suggestion of possibly in the future doing something wrong.

HayGan
06-26-2008, 05:44 PM
It has been going on for awhile now with others. I think the mods are just leveling the playing field.

I think the idea of a board here dedicated to rewards programs is great. The problem is with its' location. It is all the way at the end of the list. I personally think it should be right under the budget board or even a sub-category of the budget board. That way ALOT more people would find it and benefit from the information presented there!

mum4jenn
06-26-2008, 05:50 PM
The point is though not everyone is saving money or earning things for Disney alone. I am earning for back to school clothes or gas cards.

Talking about Bzz Agent and getting a toothbrush or some Ziploc bags will NOT get me to Disney. Using my points at MyPoints to get a JCPenney card will NOT get me to Disney.


I never thought it (Disney Rewards forum)was for having a Disney Visa.

Newfie2000
06-26-2008, 06:06 PM
I think the idea of a board here dedicated to rewards programs is great. The problem is with its' location. It is all the way at the end of the list. I personally think it should be right under the budget board or even a sub-category of the budget board. That way ALOT more people would find it and benefit from the information presented there!

I really like that idea! :thumbsup2 I hope the mods will read and consider this!:goodvibes

Newfie2000
06-26-2008, 06:08 PM
Also they are VERY worried about people requesting, offering, or offering to offer referrals. If there's even a hint that someone might want to offer their referral there is trouble.


I think this would continue to be an ongoing problem no matter where they post it! I'm not so sure changing the location will help :confused3

mrsklamc
06-26-2008, 06:57 PM
I don't think it's limited to rewards posts, I've seen a lot more OT posts get moved lately- which is surprising to me because the last post I had seen by a mod explained that some people are just more at home here- the budget board is their dis 'family' so OT posts were allowed. Probably just depends on the mod.

CajunDixie
06-26-2008, 07:10 PM
I think when the rewards board was started it was meant not just as a Disney Rewards board but an all around Rewards board that allowed you to earn money or cards for anywhere. Say if you earned gas cards but were flying you could still use the cards at home and save the money you would have spent on gas for your Disney trips. So in a round about way you were still saving for Disney. And loooooooong ago it moved a bit faster because we had a reward site the hid "Beenz" that posters would help each other out on the location of the beenz.

I really don't see that its that big of a deal to just post all the Reward type posts there. All you have to do is save the page to your favorites. :confused3 There's already quite a few people that post off-topic stuff here because they for some reason trust the budget board peeps more than the peeps on the community board. Give the Rewards Board a chance.

aka-mad4themouse
06-26-2008, 08:15 PM
The Rewards Board IS for all rewards-type programs. It does not matter how you decide to spend those rewards. Threads that are about GPT and rewards programs should be posted there and not on the Budget Board. The Rewards Board has been in existence for a long time and it is not fair for us to steal their traffic. There will not be a Budget Board subforum that would only be a copy of the Rewards Board. To do so would be redundant.

With regard to other "OT" posts: It would be a good idea to check the many other forums that the DIS has in order to see if there is another forum which is better suited to the topic at hand. As it states in the Posting Guidelines:
6. STAYING ON TOPIC: Each of the DIS boards focuses on a specific topic. Please look the choices over before posting on the wrong board. For instance, you don't want to ask about park hours on the Restaurants Board or tell everyone about your stay at the Caribbean Beach Resort on the Disney Cruise Line Board. It makes it easier for everyone to find what they're looking for when the boards stay on topic.

While we love the fact that y'all consider the Budget Board your home, sometimes it's important to leave your living room and check out what's going on in the rest of the neighborhood.

HayGan
06-26-2008, 08:21 PM
The Rewards Board IS for all rewards-type programs. It does not matter how you decide to spend those rewards. Threads that are about GPT and rewards programs should be posted there and not on the Budget Board. The Rewards Board has been in existence for a long time and it is not fair for us to steal their traffic. There will not be a Budget Board subforum that would only be a copy of the Rewards Board. To do so would be redundant.

I'm not suggesting another board. All I am suggesting is simply moving where the rewards board is stituated. It now sits at the very end between Just say Thanks and the Rumors board. Sorry but the placement doesn't make much sense. I would think that more rewards posts would be properly placed if the board was placed near the budget board (or relocated to be a sub-forum of the budget board.)

Newfie2000
06-26-2008, 09:06 PM
Wow... I never expected this to become a debate and I certainly do not like the undertone - as I am sure others do not either. If I had time to explore my neighborhood all the time I would - but for me it is a whole lot easier to do a quick look around the livingroom! And furthermore if we all had that kind of time to explore this entire site there are a lot of other sites out there that are worthy of exploring also!

I think the point that many were trying to make is that one feels comfortable with people they regularly communicate with - especially when it comes to a personal topic and they might be more willing to post with people they know than go to a whole new room and give it a go there. I certainly do not wish to sort through all the one word posts that are present on the rewards board and are so frequent that they are almost always covering the front page!

I do not think anyone meant any harm by posting in this thread and the OP specifically mentioned that. Others voiced their opinion and I assumed that would be welcome as the only way to solve a problem is to gather input and figure out why the problem came into being in the first place. I don't think any of us wanted to be preached at about living rooms or neighborhoods.

Sorry... but for a mod your post came out pretty rough and rather judgemental.... I think it could of been worded a lot more friendly and more postively! I obey and respect rules but there was no reason to be so blunt and agitated - I did not think that was what the Dis was all about! And if I were a new visitor here after reading your post I would be rather afraid to even attempt to start a thread because I was not exactly sure exactly where to put it...

Anyone in their right mind can easily see that so many topics can overlap... perhaps we need a place to post where we should post a thread?

Newfie2000
06-26-2008, 09:09 PM
Oh and by the way - I just went back and looked closely at the very first page of the budget board. Looks like you have an awful lot of moving to do. I only see a few threads that can even remotely be considered budget. You should have a pretty busy night ahead of you and we will all be busy trying to find the threads we are interested in tommorow.:(

Twende
06-26-2008, 09:49 PM
I'm not suggesting another board. All I am suggesting is simply moving where the rewards board is stituated. It now sits at the very end between Just say Thanks and the Rumors board. Sorry but the placement doesn't make much sense. I would think that more rewards posts would be properly placed if the board was placed near the budget board (or relocated to be a sub-forum of the budget board.)


:thumbsup2 I agree with this. I never knew that board was there. It took me a minute to find it due to it's strange location on this board.

I will just have to learn to check out that board now for my Buzz info.

Jen_in_NH
06-26-2008, 09:50 PM
Stupid me - I was wondering where all the BzzAgent threads went to.

mum4jenn
06-26-2008, 10:08 PM
Wow... I never expected this to become a debate and I certainly do not like the undertone - as I am sure others do not either. If I had time to explore my neighborhood all the time I would - but for me it is a whole lot easier to do a quick look around the livingroom! And furthermore if we all had that kind of time to explore this entire site there are a lot of other sites out there that are worthy of exploring also!

I think the point that many were trying to make is that one feels comfortable with people they regularly communicate with - especially when it comes to a personal topic and they might be more willing to post with people they know than go to a whole new room and give it a go there. I certainly do not wish to sort through all the one word posts that are present on the rewards board and are so frequent that they are almost always covering the front page!

I do not think anyone meant any harm by posting in this thread and the OP specifically mentioned that. Others voiced their opinion and I assumed that would be welcome as the only way to solve a problem is to gather input and figure out why the problem came into being in the first place. I don't think any of us wanted to be preached at about living rooms or neighborhoods.

Sorry... but for a mod your post came out pretty rough and rather judgemental.... I think it could of been worded a lot more friendly and more postively! I obey and respect rules but there was no reason to be so blunt and agitated - I did not think that was what the Dis was all about! And if I were a new visitor here after reading your post I would be rather afraid to even attempt to start a thread because I was not exactly sure exactly where to put it...

Anyone in their right mind can easily see that so many topics can overlap... perhaps we need a place to post where we should post a thread?


::yes::

mum4jenn
06-26-2008, 10:09 PM
Oh and by the way - I just went back and looked closely at the very first page of the budget board. Looks like you have an awful lot of moving to do. I only see a few threads that can even remotely be considered budget. You should have a pretty busy night ahead of you and we will all be busy trying to find the threads we are interested in tommorow.:(


:thumbsup2 Exactly....face painting......spread sheets for accepting a job....beaches.....disney movie club......restaurants.....DC on the 4th of July.....the list goes on and on with things that have zero to do with budgets but saving money for school clothes by using an earned gift card or getting a free product gets moved?????????? Give me a break.
I guess if you are not a member of the photo cd/fridge/everything under the sun swaps you are just ..............oh never mind.
So ...considering CVS requires a reward card to save money and get the good deals all of those threads will now go to the Rewards board ....correct????

aka-mad4themouse
06-26-2008, 10:55 PM
I'm not suggesting another board. All I am suggesting is simply moving where the rewards board is stituated. It now sits at the very end between Just say Thanks and the Rumors board. Sorry but the placement doesn't make much sense. I would think that more rewards posts would be properly placed if the board was placed near the budget board (or relocated to be a sub-forum of the budget board.)
The webmasters are the ones who chose the locations of the various forums on the DIS homepage. It was their decision to have the Rewards Board located in the "Just For Fun" group while the Budget Board is in the "Trip Planning" group. Moving a forum to another category is not as easily done as you might think. The same can be said for absorbing the Rewards Forum into the Budget Board as a subforum. Certainly all four moderators of this forum and the Rewards Board moderating team could take the idea under consideration.

aka-mad4themouse
06-26-2008, 11:17 PM
Wow... I never expected this to become a debate and I certainly do not like the undertone - as I am sure others do not either. If I had time to explore my neighborhood all the time I would - but for me it is a whole lot easier to do a quick look around the livingroom! And furthermore if we all had that kind of time to explore this entire site there are a lot of other sites out there that are worthy of exploring also!

I think the point that many were trying to make is that one feels comfortable with people they regularly communicate with - especially when it comes to a personal topic and they might be more willing to post with people they know than go to a whole new room and give it a go there. I certainly do not wish to sort through all the one word posts that are present on the rewards board and are so frequent that they are almost always covering the front page!

I do not think anyone meant any harm by posting in this thread and the OP specifically mentioned that. Others voiced their opinion and I assumed that would be welcome as the only way to solve a problem is to gather input and figure out why the problem came into being in the first place. I don't think any of us wanted to be preached at about living rooms or neighborhoods.

Sorry... but for a mod your post came out pretty rough and rather judgemental.... I think it could of been worded a lot more friendly and more postively! I obey and respect rules but there was no reason to be so blunt and agitated - I did not think that was what the Dis was all about! And if I were a new visitor here after reading your post I would be rather afraid to even attempt to start a thread because I was not exactly sure exactly where to put it...

Anyone in their right mind can easily see that so many topics can overlap... perhaps we need a place to post where we should post a thread?
I'm sorry that you read an attitude into my reply. It certainly wasn't meant to be judgemental or harsh. That's the problem with the written vs. the spoken word. You can't hear the tone or inflections with the written word and it can come across entirely different from the way the author intended.

However, the Budget Board has been more and more off-topic lately and as Dagny mentioned back in April ( http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1790801&page=1&highlight= ), we need to get back to budget-related topics. There are forums on the DIS for discussing family, cooking, pin trading, offsite resorts, the DDP and a plethora of other topics. It would be nice if our members would take the time to explore those areas. But if you should post a thread to the Budget Board that is more appropriate to another board, then it's not a big deal. The moderators can just move the thread to where it is better suited and leave a redirecting link to show you where it went. No one is going to chide you for posting in the wrong forum.

bumbershoot
06-26-2008, 11:25 PM
The point is though not everyone is saving money or earning things for Disney alone. I am earning for back to school clothes or gas cards.

Talking about Bzz Agent and getting a toothbrush or some Ziploc bags will NOT get me to Disney. Using my points at MyPoints to get a JCPenney card will NOT get me to Disney.


I never thought it (Disney Rewards forum)was for having a Disney Visa.

Aha.

Well, whenever I get a card for something I would otherwise have paid money for, I DO consider it getting me closer to Disney. Less money I'm paying out of pocket for mundane things, more money in my pocket for Disneyland trips!

I think this would continue to be an ongoing problem no matter where they post it! I'm not so sure changing the location will help :confused3

Agreed.

The Rewards Board IS for all rewards-type programs. It does not matter how you decide to spend those rewards.

Thing is, it's not the "Rewards Board". It's Disney Rewards Programs. It is NOT the first thing a person thinks of, when they think "I wonder where to find out about that Bzz thing I keep reading about." :goodvibes (please note I am not part of that program and the quote was not to indicate an advertisement)

But as I know from the typo suggestion I made about a year ago, names of forums can't be changed, so I guess there's nothing to be done. :confused3

mum4jenn
06-26-2008, 11:45 PM
I'm sorry that you read an attitude into my reply. It certainly wasn't meant to be judgemental or harsh. That's the problem with the written vs. the spoken word. You can't hear the tone or inflections with the written word and it can come across entirely different from the way the author intended.

However, the Budget Board has been more and more off-topic lately and as Dagny mentioned back in April ( http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1790801&page=1&highlight= ), we need to get back to budget-related topics. There are forums on the DIS for discussing family, cooking, pin trading, offsite resorts, the DDP and a plethora of other topics. It would be nice if our members would take the time to explore those areas. But if you should post a thread to the Budget Board that is more appropriate to another board, then it's not a big deal. The moderators can just move the thread to where it is better suited and leave a redirecting link to show you where it went. No one is going to chide you for posting in the wrong forum.


That is my whole point. Using a free gift card for back to school shopping and therefore saving $50 for MY budget IS BUDGET related. Writing about receiving my card in order to start that shopping is in no way related to a Disney Reward Forum.

Hmmmmm I guess I need to resurrect my old Panty Swap thread so I will fit in.

aka-mad4themouse
06-26-2008, 11:55 PM
So ...considering CVS requires a reward card to save money and get the good deals all of those threads will now go to the Rewards board ....correct????
No, CVS discussions can remain on the Budget Board if those members who participate in those threads would like to continue to do so.

Kycha
06-27-2008, 01:15 AM
It has been going on for awhile now with others. I think the mods are just leveling the playing field.

I think the idea of a board here dedicated to rewards programs is great. The problem is with its' location. It is all the way at the end of the list. I personally think it should be right under the budget board or even a sub-category of the budget board. That way ALOT more people would find it and benefit from the information presented there!
Not wanting to beat a dead horse, but I agree with HayGan. It just seems to me that making money(Rewards) and saving money(Budget) go hand in hand. But I totally understand that it is not easy to make a move/change like that.

bcvprincesses
06-27-2008, 12:26 PM
No, CVS discussions can remain on the Budget Board if those members who participate in those threads would like to continue to do so.


That's great, but what if the people that participate in the Buzz threads would like to keep it here?

mum4jenn
06-27-2008, 01:24 PM
That's great, but what if the people that participate in the Buzz threads would like to keep it here?


Oh but you see???? THAT would make sense and we would not want anything to make sense around here. CVS uses a rewards card and gets to be posted on the budget board. Discussions about Bzz opportunites for FREE products (deciding to accept or not, trying to understand the new system, etc.) have to go to Disney Rewards program forum. It's all about not making any sense these days.
Basically it seems to depend on who it is that is doing the posting I guess. Some Bzz threads are still here some are moved...make sense yet???? NO????:confused: well...NOW you have the right idea!!!

HayGan
06-27-2008, 01:54 PM
Oh but you see???? THAT would make sense and we would not want anything to make sense around here. CVS uses a rewards card and gets to be posted on the budget board. Discussions about Bzz opportunites for FREE products (deciding to accept or not, trying to understand the new system, etc.) have to go to Disney Rewards program forum. It's all about not making any sense these days.
Basically it seems to depend on who it is that is doing the posting I guess. Some Bzz threads are still here some are moved...make sense yet???? NO????:confused: well...NOW you have the right idea!!!

I wouldn't take it so personally. I don't envy the job of the mods for this board. Some posters think it is a free for any and all posts (frustrating for them and for many of us regular board visitors as well.) I don't think they are playing favorites by moving some posts and not others. I just think in most cases it is easier for them when something is a clearly rewards program post to just move it over to that board. Sadly, mostly because of its' location, that board does not get used much. I don't think the mods are playing favorites, it is just easier to move those things.

I agree with what some have said that there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. I hope that something will change to make it easier for us all to learn how to save a little more money (in various different ways) for our Disney vacations. I hope that the webmasters will really take a look at this situation and understand that making the budget and rewards program boards linked more closely together can only help improve the situation on both boards and increase the level of involvement on both boards as well as reduce some of the burden on the mods.

But those are just my $.02 :)

Newfie2000
06-27-2008, 05:06 PM
Thank you... at least we can agree to disagree!:goodvibes Your words just sounded differently then they were intended to sound I guess.

If I might add a few things just for consideration, since you said you would consider others suggestions...

I know that apparently the name can not be changed for the Disney Rewards Board - but the name is very misleading and you are going to have to to do something to dispell that or new and old visitors alike will continue to ignore it. I am not sure what the answer is, but something obviously has to be done. I myself have visited the rewards board on occassion and found it to be nothing more than a QR board full of one word threads that to some are probably awfully confusing!

And then there is the fact that because of the repetitiveness of the QR stuff on theat board posts are very quickly removed from the front page, in time that may change as more people start using it but for now I think you are going to find that people are going to have to keep bumping their own thread in order to be seen. That I would think could be a huge problem for you all.

And I really think you might have to create a new thread or perhaps better yet a sticky to clearly show what people should be posting on the rewards board here in the budget board. You know where does Pinecone, Coke Rewards, CVS, Bzz Agent, etc. fit in? It just might help people familiarize themselves with the process - cause right now it is all kind of confusing.

Whether it is intended or not, and for whatever reason, you are breaking up a family, community that up until now has seemed to do a pretty good job of recruiting members, monitoring themselves, creating and keeping interest, being compassionate, feeling comfortable, the list simply goes on and on. Looking at all the various threads under these guidelines thaT you are suggesting over 80% of them should be relocated. The way I see it the Budget Board will become a very boring place.

I for one will not be posting on the community board, it is just not the same friendly environment. And neither will I sort through the cooking/food board to find a quick recipe which I know my budget friends would readily provide.

That being said, I will leave this topic alone, (I think!) and hopefully once the dust settles - it will all work out okay! :goodvibes

jeankeri
06-27-2008, 05:22 PM
I used to frequent the rewards board years ago when I did Quickrewards, etc and the board was filled with threads about the answers to that day's trivia questions for others to earn points from their rewards programs. There were very few real threads, which is why, years ago, I moved to the Budget Board. On the Budget Board there were real threads where you could get information about budget related items. If the mods are now trying to change the rewards board so it contains more actual threads, not just postings of trivia questions, that is their decision. But the reason so many budget-boarders are here (and starting threads here), is because the Rewards Board had been, for the most part, a trivia answer site.
FWIW, I would love to see bzzzagent and other threads stay here, or move the location of the Rewards Board. :thumbsup2

disneyjunkie
06-27-2008, 05:58 PM
Whether it is intended or not, and for whatever reason, you are breaking up a family, community that up until now has seemed to do a pretty good job of recruiting members, monitoring themselves, creating and keeping interest, being compassionate, feeling comfortable, the list simply goes on and on. Looking at all the various threads under these guidelines thaT you are suggesting over 80% of them should be relocated. The way I see it the Budget Board will become a very boring place.

Maybe the OT threads should have never been allowed to stay. :confused3

Many of us complained when the budget board first started to change. We wondered why the OT threads weren't moved to the correct boards. Some of us come here for the budget/sales threads.

When I have a question about DCL, I post it on the cruise boards. If I want to know about park hours, I head to the theme park boards.

If you allow OT threads to remain on one board, then it would have to be allowed on the other boards.

No matter what the mods do, they won't be able to please everyone.

Newfie2000
06-27-2008, 07:55 PM
Maybe the OT threads should have never been allowed to stay. :confused3

Many of us complained when the budget board first started to change. We wondered why the OT threads weren't moved to the correct boards. Some of us come here for the budget/sales threads.

When I have a question about DCL, I post it on the cruise boards. If I want to know about park hours, I head to the theme park boards.

If you allow OT threads to remain on one board, then it would have to be allowed on the other boards.

No matter what the mods do, they won't be able to please everyone.

Which is fine IF they remove all OT threads and not selectively pick and choose! But to pick one or two out of the thousands of OT posts is not fair no matter how you look at it! OT is OT and if you are not going to allow it then you have to stick to it and constantly move and enforce! Other wise it not only negects the purpose but causes bad feelings and hostility... a sort of discrimination if you will! And this is very much so the case as even when this all started only a few threads were moved when over 80% of the threads at the time were OT...EXPLAIN THAT AWAY!!

disneyjunkie
06-27-2008, 08:15 PM
Which is fine IF they remove all OT threads and not selectively pick and choose! But to pick one or two out of the thousands of OT posts is not fair no matter how you look at it! OT is OT and if you are not going to allow it then you have to stick to it and constantly move and enforce! Other wise it not only negects the purpose but causes bad feelings and hostility... a sort of discrimination if you will! And this is very much so the case as even when this all started only a few threads were moved when over 80% of the threads at the time were OT...EXPLAIN THAT AWAY!!

With all the things happening on the DIS(bangate 08 for example) I find it hard to get worked up about OT threads getting moved to the correct boards.

Then again I was one of those who complained about them being here to begin with.:duck: :lmao:

I'm sure (or at least I hope) it's just a matter of time before they'll have all of the OT threads moved to the proper place.