View Full Version : Don't ask me why but...I am a little angry at this
agame2323
05-27-2008, 04:33 PM
:furious: I almost feel like their trying to copy Disney. Which is impossible. Don't they know? :confused3
http://www.europapark.de/lang-en/c51/default.html
:furious: I almost feel like their trying to copy Disney. Which is impossible. Don't they know? :confused3
http://www.europapark.de/lang-en/c51/default.html
You're right.
But THAT one is absolutely NOTHING compared to a park in CHINA that is a dead-ringer COPY of Disney parks.
If you want to get MAD...
HERE (http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1678) you go.
Sleeping Becca
05-27-2008, 04:52 PM
Wow, those are pretty shocking! I can't believe they are getting away with that.
rigsfhdgnv
05-27-2008, 04:56 PM
You're right.
But THAT one is absolutely NOTHING compared to a park in CHINA that is a dead-ringer COPY of Disney parks.
If you want to get MAD...
HERE (http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1678) you go.
Wow! I didn't really see much of a connection from the OP, but that second one.....wow. :(
Wow! I didn't really see much of a connection from the OP, but that second one.....wow. :(
Hard to believe, isn't it?
:welcome: to the DISboards, rigsfhdgnv!
(11 posts since Feb.)
v_gan
05-27-2008, 05:10 PM
This doesn't make me mad, it makes me laugh! That first park even has a "Universe of Energy". :laughing:
Gah, this is just too funny.
VMK_Mouse
05-27-2008, 05:10 PM
This Europa park does not offend me in the least, neither does the other one.
If Disney Corporation finds it wrong or offensive, they will sue them. If not, they may see it as a way to get people in to see the real Disney parks.
Me personally, I think it is wrong and it is a copyright infringement....it looks like Disney Corp is already on it.
Disney is being sued a lot lately, maybe they can recoop a little of what they have had to give out.
meloneyb21
05-27-2008, 05:14 PM
LMAO @ that cheesy behind mouse-thing.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @ that Chinese theme park. Good Lord.
HonnyDipp
05-27-2008, 05:23 PM
Disney should find it offensive, There idea has clearly been stolen
MightyMom
05-27-2008, 05:33 PM
Imitation is the best form of flattery, right?
Disney should be flattered.... not angry! :rotfl:
You're right.
But THAT one is absolutely NOTHING compared to a park in CHINA that is a dead-ringer COPY of Disney parks.
If you want to get MAD...
HERE (http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1678) you go.
:furious:I don't know what to even say.. I'm angry. Walt wouldn't be happy.. but it is rather flattering to the WDW Co.
HillPete
05-27-2008, 05:43 PM
Look on the bright side, if Disneyland is too far, then folks will stay home and go to these parks. Shorter lines for us! :thumbsup2
disneyfanUSA
05-27-2008, 05:46 PM
You're right.
But THAT one is absolutely NOTHING compared to a park in CHINA that is a dead-ringer COPY of Disney parks.
If you want to get MAD...
HERE (http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1678) you go.
Omg that is too much i cant believe it!! Those are the most ridiculous costumes ever!!
Brian_WDW74
05-27-2008, 05:55 PM
Unfortunately, people have been ripping off Disney's ideas almost from the very beginning. Take a look at Japan's Nara Dreamland, which opened in 1961:
http://www.disney-i.com/ndl/index.html
It had its own Main Street, castle, monorail, even a Matterhorn and Jungle Cruise. None of which were anywhere near Disney's quality, of course. It finally closed in 2006...45 years later!
Goofy'slady
05-27-2008, 06:01 PM
I'm sorry but I nearly spat out my dinner reading about that park in Japan. I laughed so hard I almost choked. Even my 10yr old thought that was a lame attempt at ripping Disney off. My husband got a good laugh too.
Nothing will ever replace Disney in my heart and I'm sure I speak for all true Disney fans.
T.
Freyja
05-27-2008, 06:12 PM
Hillarious
Craig E Hood
05-27-2008, 06:13 PM
I guess Disney can't copyright/patent the EPCOT sphere?
King Triton
05-27-2008, 06:22 PM
Where is that first park located?
creativeamanda
05-27-2008, 06:28 PM
I guess Disney can't copyright/patent the EPCOT sphere?
Since it was originally in a World's Fair, I'd haphazard at a no. Plus, that would be a patent in the United States, which probably wouldn't amount to a hill of beans in Europe.
joshsmom
05-27-2008, 06:33 PM
What I find disgusting is that those costumes are GROTESQUE!!!! Talk about scaring small children!!! If those little kids ever saw the REAL Mickey, they'd be so scared of the other ones!!!! Kinda like the creepy, skinny Santa on the street with dirt in his beard and a bottle of rotgut in his pocket vs. the REAL Santa!!!
tarheelmjfan
05-27-2008, 06:43 PM
People really get mad over stuff like this? :confused3 The way I see it more quality parks being built are better for the consumer. It's not like they're trying to clone my child or anything. Why would I take this personally? I guess I just don't get it. :confused:
WilsonFlyer
05-27-2008, 06:44 PM
They're crap, I'm sure but consider this.
There's not a single penny loss to Disney because of these knock-offs. The people in those countries KNOW where and what the deal Disney is and those that can afford it, will come (and DO; in DROVES).
No loss of revenue from those that don't come because you weren't gonna get that money to begin with and there's obviously not enough there to worry about anyway since they couldn't even afford to come here.
Much a'do about nothing. If it were worth it to Disney, they would have already gone after them. They can certainly afford it so that's not it.
International law is one thing. Communist country compliance with any ruling is another thing all together.
Crap begets crap. Guess what those parks probably are. ;)
WilsonFlyer
05-27-2008, 06:49 PM
Since it was originally in a World's Fair, I'd haphazard at a no. Plus, that would be a patent in the United States, which probably wouldn't amount to a hill of beans in Europe.
There have been many things over the years that were successfully copyrighted and/or patented internationally before placement in any world's fair.
It's called international patent protection and enforcement is relative to the government's cooperation in the offending country. Europe's not the problem. ;)
S. S. Columbia
05-27-2008, 08:14 PM
Unfortunately, people have been ripping off Disney's ideas almost from the very beginning. Take a look at Japan's Nara Dreamland, which opened in 1961:
http://www.disney-i.com/ndl/index.html ...
Here's another view of the Bizarro World, um, I mean, Bizzaroland "Disneyland" that was in Nara, Japan: :earsboy:
http://*************************/japan2004/nara1.htm :thumbsup2
Clotho
05-27-2008, 09:30 PM
Those guys have always been my favorite reviewers! And that one of Nara I have always loved. thanks for linking it for more re-reading fun!
WeluvDisney2
05-27-2008, 10:04 PM
That has "made in China" stamped all over it! How lame! :rolleyes2
MichelleinMaine
05-27-2008, 10:28 PM
We went to Europa park years ago. Looks alot more "EPCOT-ified" since we went there, though of course hard to deny the inspiration for the big golf ball.
The funny thing though is the ball at Europa is actually a roller coaster. I was used to nice calm quiet SE. I wasn't expecting a roller coaster when I went in there (in Germany), lol.
Ball aside, I remember the EP of the 80's as more of a thrill park than so much "Disney" (golf ball aside.)
That said, I guess you could argue pretty much all theme parks have been developed off the success of Disneyland, no?
ToGreen78
05-27-2008, 10:34 PM
WOW a bootleg Disney, the corney!!!
Cargo
05-27-2008, 10:35 PM
Here's another view of the Bizarro World, um, I mean, Bizzaroland "Disneyland" that was in Nara, Japan: :earsboy:
http://*************************/japan2004/nara1.htm :thumbsup2
hahaha i LOVE TESE REVIEWErs too!! i read them a lot and i remember this post
ok, . . i'm asian (Hong Kong) and looking at these pictures makes me drop my jaw in disbelief, . . and i know most of you aren't thinking this but i just want to get this out there incase ANY of you have this tumbling around in your heads, . . not ALL asians do that kind of thing. I hope you guys recognize that the band of people doing this is a crazy exception and i'm sure there's a lot of people who are seeing this and can't believe it!
Ugh, . . to be honest i'm mad at those ppl too, . . . it's ppl like those that make the WHOLE nationality seem like idiots, . . why would u try to bootleg the whole park?!?!?!
Cargo
05-27-2008, 10:41 PM
haha ij ust remembered something
i remember seeing these pictures from an email from friends and we spent time going ' WHATTt??? IS THIS REALLLL????"
PammyJJane
05-27-2008, 10:43 PM
Here's another view of the Bizarro World, um, I mean, Bizzaroland "Disneyland" that was in Nara, Japan: :earsboy:
http://*************************/japan2004/nara1.htm :thumbsup2
LMAO @ that park, thanks for the link!! Gosh, I missed my chance to ride the screw coaster.
Lynn5700
05-28-2008, 12:15 AM
LMAO!!!! That is so funny lol!!!! My husband and I are cracking up right now lol. The china donald and mickey are hilarious!!!
DOOM1001
05-28-2008, 12:17 AM
There's nothing at all wrong with Europa Park,that's like one of the best non-Disney parks outside the US.Now that other park with the copy castle,copy matterhorn and so on that's just plain wrong!!!I've seen photo trip reports from that park on other sites basically showing how it really is a dump with broken signs,paint chipping away and basically looking like a ghost town with nobody there.What makes it even stranger is they have everything copying Disney and also have rides that just don't fit in like a wood coaster and a steel coaster called Screw Coaster!!
luvthemouse71
05-28-2008, 12:29 AM
I'm sorry but I nearly spat out my dinner reading about that park in Japan. I laughed so hard I almost choked. Even my 10yr old thought that was a lame attempt at ripping Disney off. My husband got a good laugh too.
Nothing will ever replace Disney in my heart and I'm sure I speak for all true Disney fans.
T.I know! Did you see the part where the president of the park in Japan was saying the Minnie Mouse rip-off character wasn't a mouse at all, it was a cat with big ears?! :lmao: :faint: :confused:
I do feel that Disney would be within their rights to sue the pants off of the copycats though.
stemikger
05-28-2008, 03:16 AM
Nariland is like a nightmare I have of an old rundown Disney World.
trjme
05-28-2008, 03:16 AM
Been to Europa Park many time and love the rollercoaster in the ball. It was completly dark. Lover there theming as well as it was all about europe. Visiting the fishing villages of scandanavia. The bobsled ride is one of the most unique rides I had ever seen and if I remember right it was in the Norway section. Not one ride did they have that was even close to what disney has.
stemikger
05-28-2008, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by trjme
Been to Europa Park many time and love the rollercoaster in the ball. It was completly dark. Lover there theming as well as it was all about europe. Visiting the fishing villages of scandanavia. The bobsled ride is one of the most unique rides I had ever seen and if I remember right it was in the Norway section. Not one ride did they have that was even close to what disney has.
Yeah, while the rides may be different, the theming was rippped right out of the pages of EPCOT. It is clearly themed like EPCOT. Geosphere and all.
auntread
05-28-2008, 07:24 AM
Wow thanx for the good laugh to start my day! i am still rolf about the "cat with big ears" :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
Buzz Litebeer
05-28-2008, 12:10 PM
ok, . . i'm asian (Hong Kong) and looking at these pictures makes me drop my jaw in disbelief, . . and i know most of you aren't thinking this but i just want to get this out there incase ANY of you have this tumbling around in your heads, . . not ALL asians do that kind of thing. I hope you guys recognize that the band of people doing this is a crazy exception and i'm sure there's a lot of people who are seeing this and can't believe it!
Ugh, . . to be honest i'm mad at those ppl too, . . . it's ppl like those that make the WHOLE nationality seem like idiots, . . why would u try to bootleg the whole park?!?!?!
With all due respect, I don't think anyone here thinks that all asians are bootleggers, counterfeiters, or IP pirates.
Some are, certainly... but definitely not all.
Cargo
05-28-2008, 10:29 PM
With all due respect, I don't think anyone here thinks that all asians are bootleggers, counterfeiters, or IP pirates.
Some are, certainly... but definitely not all.
nono, my point exactly!!
some are, . . but definitely not all, . . you are totally right
trjme
07-18-2008, 11:57 AM
Yeah, while the rides may be different, the theming was rippped right out of the pages of EPCOT. It is clearly themed like EPCOT. Geosphere and all.
I think if you did a little digging you would find that Europa Park was built quite a few years before Epcot. World showcase came after the same theming as Europa Park. Im guessing that Epcots Space Ship Earth was before Europa parks similiar attraction but the rides are no where even close.
timmac
07-18-2008, 02:42 PM
The Chinese thing, I agree, is a ripoff. But, unfortunately, China has become notorious for knock off merchandise anyway, so it fits the bill.
The Europa Park, I see some similarities, of course (the geo-dome, though it isn't half as cool as SSE, since it's not a full dome--look for pics online). As for the world-wide theme, I don't even think that could be considered a knock off, since it's just European countries, and even still, I doubt the idea of theming to regions of the world is anything Disney invented. The presence of the coasters and such suggests something more like Busch Gardens (I'm thinking of the Williamsburg park here), where the world country theme was applied almost as an after-thought to give the park a coherent thematic feel.
Even some of the things like the hands on science that echo the tune of Innoventions don't seem like a ripoff really; they're the kind of subject matter that really isn't uniquely Disney anyway.
WDWRocksMySocks
07-18-2008, 03:42 PM
You're right.
If you want to get MAD...
HERE (http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1678) you go.
Haha...I love how they say the knock-off Minnie Mouse is a cat w/ gigantic ears! :lmao: China really has a knack for ignoring copyrights and patents, don't they?
GoofyWaterCoaster
07-18-2008, 03:54 PM
:furious:
WOW I AM SO UPSET!
I hope that Disney slaps the big white glove down on these terrible companies :sad2:
RFrank9504
07-18-2008, 04:01 PM
Often Imitated-can NEVER be duplicated-that was too sad and funny..I espcially loved the "non-Pooh bear"-with the "Pooh" written on his red shirt....:rotfl2:
Doc CW
07-18-2008, 05:04 PM
Lets be honest if Disney starts to lose a good percentage of park attendance they can always sue those guys and make a pretty penny off of them, looking at some of those pics those guys are pathetic :sad2:
Dznefreek
07-18-2008, 05:13 PM
Using the same logic you should be angry at Busch Gardens Europe . . . . . Sorry I do not see a reason to be angry.
Missin'Disney
07-18-2008, 05:21 PM
Absolutely hilarious commentaries....I'm still trying to figure out what i just saw though :confused: :rotfl:
bytheblood
07-18-2008, 09:19 PM
I would not let it anger you. If Disney feels they are losing money or they are offended by it, they will certainly do something about it.
This does not affect my vacation time in WDW, therefore it just does not trouble mean. Of course, I do agree that it is wrong. ;)
christa112
07-19-2008, 07:06 AM
That blows my mind that Disney doesn't do something about that. I also like how they also threw a generic Shrek in there too!!!
You're right.
But THAT one is absolutely NOTHING compared to a park in CHINA that is a dead-ringer COPY of Disney parks.
If you want to get MAD...
HERE (http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1678) you go.
EuropaParkFan
09-28-2008, 03:07 AM
Hello, :confused3
I can't beleive these bad comments about EuropaPark. Firstly, I would like to say that I am an American who has visited a few theme and amusement parks worldwide. At the moment, I honestly think that EuropaPark is the best non disney property in the entire world. In fact, in many ways EuropaPark beats down the mighty WDW. Have you even taken a look at the onsite resorts on the website? The level of theming can only be compared to Las Vegas super budget level hotels.... The level of theming in the park itself is right on par with Tokyo Disneysea and Universal's Islands of Adventure, the top themed parks in the world. The food at EuropaPark is fabulous....you can find dishes from all over europe in there..... and its REAL European food. And you never stand in a line over an hour, because they don't oversell the park.
What makes EuropaPark truly unique? It is probably the only park in the world that has combined the best of the huge mega amusement parks and a world class theme park. Its a magic kingdom, epcot, Medieval Times, Cedar Point, Busch Gardens, Six Flags all in a single park, and still with world class theming.
Don't get me wrong.... It certainly cannot beat all 4 parks in WDW combined, or all but it certainly can beat some disneylands I have been to.
I am taking a trip to Disneyland Paris Resort in October. I would not be surprised if it knocks my socks off (my first time there). Also, I am comparing to 1986 WDW, so maybe not a fair comparison at all..... we shall see.....
By the way, EuropaPark has the highest tallest and fastest roller coaster in all of continental europe, The Silver Star.
Google some reviews of EuropaPark.... EuropaPark vs. Disneyland Paris, EuropaPark vs. WDW... etc. you may be surprised.
Oh by the way, notice my Avatar......
bavaria
09-28-2008, 06:21 PM
I too love EuropaPark. It is a totally tongue in cheek version of the Disney parks, for those elements which 'honour' Disney.
Even better, it is cleaner than WDW, the patrons seem to be better behaved, there is no signage 'ordering' customers around ie no instructions on HOW to wash ones hands in the toilet.
For all that we read here about how badly behaved we 'dirty foreigners' are, I find EuropaPark to be a refreshing change from WDW and the behaviour I see there. Every time I visit, it is just a wonderful day out with fellow Germans, French, and Swiss.
Yes, there are certain Disney elements, but there are very German elements as well, such as the traditional fairy tale storyboxes which have absolutely no animation, but charm adults and children alike. It is a German park first and foremost. Plus they still have the Mack family history unlike Disneyland, which removed their version ie Disney Gallery.
The EP hotels are far better themed and far cleaner than Disney resorts, the food is miles better, the workers are pleasant and friendly.
I have frankly grown very weary of WDW and the behaviours and lack of cleanliness, and most of my theme park money now goes to EuropaPark and Disneyland Paris.
bavaria
09-28-2008, 06:23 PM
Oh, and how does Disney care about losing visitors to EP? They don't seem to care - they do almost no marketing at all in Germany, even though we are right next door with 82 million potential visitors.
Well, there is a long thread on the DLRP forum here about how Germans are excluded from almost all offers, and visitors have dropped from about 18% to 5% of total in the last decade.
There is actually finally a big meeting on October 5th at DLRP in which the company finally agreed to address this with a large group of Germans. Another website has been keeping us abreast of this.
bavaria
09-28-2008, 06:29 PM
I guess Disney can't copyright/patent the EPCOT sphere?
Then realize that geodesic domes were not created by Disney. The first geodesic dome was built in GERMANY hence I see absolutely nothing wrong with a German park honouring that fact.
In fact, Epcot borrows many of the elements of Expo '67 - including the US pavilion.
Journey into Imagination is also reflective of Expo '67.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/bavariabavaria/Expo_67_United_States_Pavilion_002.jpg
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