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lisuhut
06-15-2008, 10:12 AM
Hi
Is anybody else having trouble getting into stone henge?

Adambinder
06-15-2008, 11:29 AM
Staff cant help with quest. Why? They didn't even get to do it yet.

Luckily I completed the quest last night, when less people were on.

But I did find it unfair to only give us 1 surfboard instead of both.

MPhins13
06-15-2008, 12:13 PM
I signed in to do the quest and have no idea what to do. What stone am I supposed to click on? I clicked on all of them several times and so has the other dozen players in Stonehedge. Can someone help plz? Am I in the wrong room?

lisuhut
06-15-2008, 12:15 PM
Hi
Well at least you got into the room , i can not get in there,so i shall give up,the screen loads then dc !!

MPhins13
06-15-2008, 12:42 PM
This is frustrating. I figured they would have it worked out by now that ppl could move without having others in the way. But, this quest is cute. How many questions are there? Do I have to play the Audobon Game for one of the questions?
OT: How do I take a screeneshot of the webpage?

mir4mad
06-15-2008, 12:46 PM
That was TORTURE!!!!! Too much walking for a princess! LOL! (even for one who can't walk)

Can you say "VFK get a MAP"? How about marking the ground so you know where you can walk and where the exits are.
We started last night one hour before closing. I crashed several times. There was lots of lag. People jammed the doorways and exits so no one could move. You had to go back home to get anywhere at all. Princess got frustrated and quit. Not much better today. The bird game rooms were the worst to walk through.

The staff that I saw were all very helpful. They all answered questions and didn't just say hi. I think it was way too soon for a quest. I am thrilled to see the progress and be a part of the testing but there are so many bugs to work out. Anyone who started the quest SHOULD be awarded the prizes. The kids would never be able to answer the trivia questions without help. I needed HELP! LOL!

The rock in stonehedge I believe is the lone skinny one towards the center of the room- click the base of it.

GOOD LUCK!:furious:

Mnementh
06-15-2008, 12:47 PM
This is frustrating. I figured they would have it worked out by now that ppl could move without having others in the way. But, this quest is cute. How many questions are there? Do I have to play the Audobon Game for one of the questions?
OT: How do I take a screeneshot of the webpage?

There are 24 questions, but the last two technically aren't questions.

You have to ride through the Audobon game, but you don't actually have to play. Just click on logs in each of the rooms.

Take a screenshot by hitting the print screen button (usually next to the num lock key at the top of the keyboard) and then open up Paint or a similar program and paste it in there.

snshine123
06-15-2008, 12:58 PM
We too found it very, very frustrating-only took us 14 hours to finish. Many of us kept clicking and clicking the barrels in the store with nothing happening no matter what we did! For us it turned out once we switched from Firefox to Safari it was ok and then who knew you could walk through birdland? Hint to any who haven't started it yet. GO to Stonehedge first and then click the quest button. Also any time you need to go from say the bird game to the crossroads click on the house and go back through the yard. For those of us with an bad leg it saved some walking. So now the question-do we stay with this not even close imitation of VMK, the unfiltered chat of Smallworld (but we love the missions) or just keep watching gpdot WONDERFUL VMK tribute????? I WANT MY VMK!

goldengourd
06-15-2008, 01:46 PM
who knew you could walk through birdland?
Now that would have been nice to know. I did it by clicking playing the game, had to go around several times as I had to go research some of the answers to the trivia, then came back to find I had to do something in a room I had already passed.





Third, most of the trivia also annoyed me, how many kids know the names of all the Beach Boys, let alone what year the Hula Hoop was invented. Obviously most kids probably would have needed to use an outside source, which isn’t the point of this exercise unless I am mistaken.


And then they have the answers wrong, kinda. Many of their questions have controversy on when it was invented (like the ice cream cone, the hula hoop, the frisbee). For example, the Hula Hoop may have been PATENTED in 1957, but it was a toy in both African cultures and Native American cultures long before there was even settlers in America. And Sunscreen may have first been marketed in America in the 1940's, but ancient Egyptians used a mineral cream specifically to block the tanning of the sun. Also if you did a quick search on the history of sunscreen, you would probably come up with the name Eugene Schueller (the founder of the L’Oreal cosmetic company) as the modern inventor of sunscreen, and a debate on if he had it before the Australian Blake. Yes, I could figure out which answer they were trying to get you to chose, but it still bugs me that the history is the "quick and dirty type answers" (and USA biased), rather than thought out questions.

souper
06-15-2008, 02:00 PM
Thanks for the surfboard VFK. ::yes::

gshawen
06-15-2008, 02:03 PM
Now that would have been nice to know. I did it by clicking playing the game, had to go around several times as I had to go research some of the answers to the trivia, then came back to find I had to do something in a room I had already passed.



And then they have the answers wrong, kinda. Many of their questions have controversy on when it was invented (like the ice cream cone, the hula hoop, the frisbee). For example, the Hula Hoop may have been PATENTED in 1957, but it was a toy in both African cultures and Native American cultures long before there was even settlers in America. And Sunscreen may have first been marketed in America in the 1940's, but ancient Egyptians used a mineral cream specifically to block the tanning of the sun. Also if you did a quick search on the history of sunscreen, you would probably come up with the name Eugene Schueller (the founder of the L’Oreal cosmetic company) as the modern inventor of sunscreen, and a debate on if he had it before the Australian Blake. Yes, I could figure out which answer they were trying to get you to chose, but it still bugs me that the history is the "quick and dirty type answers" (and USA biased), rather than thought out questions.


Don't forget Jan and Dean and the Beach Boys are from an era long ago, most kids would not even know who they are.

SharkMeal
06-15-2008, 02:21 PM
Hmm, well okay I know that we are all frustrating about losing our little magic
kingdom and don't really know what to do, and think VFK is a lot worse than
other games right now etc. But now you guys are trying to find everything
slightly wrong with any little detail and bash it and bash them. Give them
a chance! I think this game has potential! (in about 5 months but still :P)

NOT trying to bash anyone, but I'm just saying these poor people are just trying
to put together a community to replace the one we lost. :(

WWEDUDE
06-15-2008, 02:24 PM
Anyone want to take pictures of each item for sale in the shop @_@

Like with the green-stripped background.

AdventurersClub
06-15-2008, 02:25 PM
Hmm, well okay I know that we are all frustrating about losing our little magic
kingdom and don't really know what to do, and think VFK is a lot worse than
other games right now etc. But now you guys are trying to find everything
slightly wrong with any little detail and bash it and bash them. Give them
a chance! I think this game has potential! (in about 5 months but still :P)

NOT trying to bash anyone, but I'm just saying these poor people are just trying
to put together a community to replace the one we lost. :(

These "poor people" need to start to make realistic promises, that they can follow through on. They need to stop constantly disappointing people by not following through. I don't think I am being unreasonable in the slightest expecting them to follow the time line they post on their home page. I'm trying to give the game a chance, but it is really hard to trust a game that falls short of following through with what they announce.

GoofyWaterCoaster
06-15-2008, 03:04 PM
I'm going to laugh when VFK gets sued.

SharkMeal
06-15-2008, 03:14 PM
These "poor people" need to start to make realistic promises, that they can follow through on. They need to stop constantly disappointing people by not following through. I don't think I am being unreasonable in the slightest expecting them to follow the time line they post on their home page. I'm trying to give the game a chance, but it is really hard to trust a game that falls short of following through with what they announce.

I DO agree they need to STOP making promises and disappointing everyone
when they come out late, or not as good as they make it seem.

But I don't agree that just because they are doing that means that
we should bash every little detail about the game because we're mad
at them for disappointing us. Didn't say you were, but I'm just saying.. hehe

Belle1997
06-15-2008, 03:18 PM
Ok I did the quest at the beginning I too found it frustrating but I learn a way around it. If I could not get anywhere I would hit home. Most of the time I was in the first room by myself. Also if I could not get to a place I would go back out the exit and try for a different room. Maybe 2 or 3 tries I got it. And then would have a pretty empty room to work with.

Since I have played every day I knew where all things were. And most of my friends were not on so I just walked it.

As for question that is what google is for. Like we knew all the answers in VMK quests. All the questions were easily found in google. And kids should learn how to look up who is the members of the beach boys. Considering it was for a surf board I think the beach boys was a fine question. It could have been worse. Name the person who sang tiny bubbles.

As for the right answer well should we have our history discussion again :rotfl2:

Yes it was laggy but I had lots of fun. And it being on almost the whole day today I found when my husband went on later it was really easy to get through. Gee does that sound like a game we used to play was like too.




Remember when we had Quests in VMK that had over 100 people trying to get into a room.

Yes not the best quest but the the worst I have done either. As for prizes I think they were good 1,200 credits was a really good start. The red beach ball that others were so upset about it being pulled. Gee how many times in VMK did they pull this. Yes I so miss VMK I miss my rooms, my friends etc.

When I started the bird game I was averaging 60 credits a game so to me that was awesome.

ps oh sharkmeal you have not asked me for my shopping list :lmao:

AdventurersClub
06-15-2008, 03:18 PM
I DO agree they need to STOP making promises and disappointing everyone
when they come out late, or not as good as they make it seem.

But I don't agree that just because they are doing that means that
we should bash every little detail about the game because we're mad
at them for disappointing us. Didn't say you were, but I'm just saying.. hehe

Don't mistake criticizing for "bashing" from what I read, most people are just being critical about the game and expressing their own opinion. Just because someone says something that isn't necessarily a compliment, does not mean it is bashing. Anyone who bashes the game, probably isn't playing it.

SharkMeal
06-15-2008, 03:19 PM
I'm going to laugh when VFK gets sued.

Well, you know, VMK wasn't the first one to have quests, characters that
walk around in lands, and shops and all that. ;) It is more similar than other
games are, but VMK no longer exists and as long as VFK stays between
the fine line, they probably won't get sued. I mean, look at Club Penguin,
a disney product that is not closed, and then look at Panfu, a non-disney product that is currently open. They are extremely similar, more similar than
VMK and VFK are, and Panfu is not being sued or anything. :confused:

GoofyWaterCoaster
06-15-2008, 03:24 PM
Well, you know, VMK wasn't the first one to have quests, characters that
walk around in lands, and shops and all that. ;) It is more similar than other
games are, but VMK no longer exists and as long as VFK stays between
the fine line, they probably won't get sued. I mean, look at Club Penguin,
a disney product that is not closed, and then look at Panfu, a non-disney product that is currently open. They are extremely similar, more similar than
VMK and VFK are, and Panfu is not being sued or anything. :confused:

No, not about the quests and such, the EXTREME similarity between games that are coming out (Ship Battle, Fireworks) and all of the items that were copied (Barrel Seat, Crates, Velvet Divider, Beach Ball).

Belle1997
06-15-2008, 03:36 PM
Just wanted to say that to most people that are trying to enjoy the game flaws and all it does start to come across like bashing. Have you noticed many many disers are no longer posting on this thread. They have left because all the negative critisism is just depressing. But everyone has their right to voice their opinion. Just very few of the people actually getting a little pleasure out of bird watching are no longer around.

ecsarabians
06-15-2008, 03:48 PM
Started it last night and finished earlier today. Also bought a few of the new items. :)

PrincessAveri

KingQuackATac
06-15-2008, 03:49 PM
Just wanted to say that to most people that are trying to enjoy the game flaws and all it does start to come across like bashing. Have you noticed many many disers are no longer posting on this thread. They have left because all the negative critisism is just depressing. But everyone has their right to voice their opinion. Just very few of the people actually getting a little pleasure out of bird watching are no longer around.

Congrats on your high score in the AWA game. I have to practice some more now that the steering is better.

But if anyone is running out of gas, just find me. I always have extra! :lmao:

Goofy05
06-15-2008, 03:53 PM
I DO agree they need to STOP making promises and disappointing everyone
when they come out late, or not as good as they make it seem.

But I don't agree that just because they are doing that means that
we should bash every little detail about the game because we're mad
at them for disappointing us. Didn't say you were, but I'm just saying.. hehe

You can call me a basher, if you wish, but I'm highly disappointed in all the empty promises, the loss of history being the biggest. THAT would have set this game apart from all the others, but they chose not to follow that route. Too bad. I'm also disappointed in the lack of respect towards their players. Posting timelines, deleting them, offering a quest with disputable answers with prizes that don't fit any theme whatsoever within their world, poor graphics and the pay option that only surfaced AFTER they said it would never be a pay game.
I tried to give them some space to work out the bugs, yet I was so tiny in there it took me twice as long as others to cover the same area! Exits are being blocked, staff isn't able to answer legitimate questions because they don't know what's going on. I don't think this game is even yet ready for Beta testing and I don't think anything that people say will be 'rare beta' will ever be rare, only because vfk will never garner enough players to remain a viable game. Another promise that will fall flat...not closing in three years. Oh, wait! That promise may still be kept! I don't think vfk will last three months. I'm not saying this to 'bash' a game, I'm saying this because there are MANY other games out there with FAR better theming and graphics and less bugs to work out.
I gave vfk a long enough chance to prove itself to me. I doubt I'll be back on unless something totally amazing comes out of it.

PrincessWendyBird
06-15-2008, 03:58 PM
Thanks for a really fun quest VFK! :thumbsup2
And a big thanks for the credits, beach ball, and totally "rad" surfboard! :goodvibes

aengus
06-15-2008, 04:35 PM
Just wanted to say that to most people that are trying to enjoy the game flaws and all it does start to come across like bashing. Have you noticed many many disers are no longer posting on this thread. They have left because all the negative critisism is just depressing. But everyone has their right to voice their opinion. Just very few of the people actually getting a little pleasure out of bird watching are no longer around.

Just for the record, many left for the opposite reason also.

Belle1997
06-15-2008, 04:53 PM
Wow would never think it was because people were too positive. My guess is people left because they just hated seeing the extremes of both sides. Not a fun thread to come and visit.

aengus
06-15-2008, 04:59 PM
you havent noticed I stopped commenting? I know a very large group of people who stopped posting here because some people can see no wrong also.

I am not trying to stir anything up, just trying to keep it fair.

vmkfan13
06-15-2008, 05:09 PM
You can call me a basher, if you wish, but I'm highly disappointed in all the empty promises, the loss of history being the biggest. THAT would have set this game apart from all the others, but they chose not to follow that route. Too bad. I'm also disappointed in the lack of respect towards their players. Posting timelines, deleting them, offering a quest with disputable answers with prizes that don't fit any theme whatsoever within their world, poor graphics and the pay option that only surfaced AFTER they said it would never be a pay game.
I tried to give them some space to work out the bugs, yet I was so tiny in there it took me twice as long as others to cover the same area! Exits are being blocked, staff isn't able to answer legitimate questions because they don't know what's going on. I don't think this game is even yet ready for Beta testing and I don't think anything that people say will be 'rare beta' will ever be rare, only because vfk will never garner enough players to remain a viable game. Another promise that will fall flat...not closing in three years. Oh, wait! That promise may still be kept! I don't think vfk will last three months. I'm not saying this to 'bash' a game, I'm saying this because there are MANY other games out there with FAR better theming and graphics and less bugs to work out.
I gave vfk a long enough chance to prove itself to me. I doubt I'll be back on unless something totally amazing comes out of it.

I agree with you on the theme and graphics comparison, I just don't like the look of our characters, so I choose not to play this game as much. I think VFK will last (at least longer then 3 months) since most games are alot less family friendly. I beg VFK to focus on getting all the alpha features down, the game isn't playable, it doesn't have a map yet!

lisuhut
06-15-2008, 05:22 PM
Hi
My biggest disapointment was people always comparing with vmk,this game is not vmk ,they are the people that let us down , so in fairness i think we should support them a bit more and hope things get better.I do not understand people going on about vmk when we were badly let down by them, but the same people ,moan about this game if it is not like vmk ,the other half moan because they say they are copying vmk.
Vmk is no more, so maybe support the game that is trying, although not getting everything right as yet, but they have not had three years, and lets face never did vmk .

VMK_Mouse
06-15-2008, 05:27 PM
Hi
My biggest disapointment was people always comparing with vmk,this game is not vmk ,they are the people that let us down , so in fairness i think we should support them a bit more and hope things get better.I do not understand people going on about vmk when we were badly let down by them, but the same people ,moan about this game if it is not like vmk ,the other half moan because they say they are copying vmk.
Vmk is no more, so maybe support the game that is trying, although not getting everything right as yet, but they have not had three years, and lets face never did vmk .


Hi Lisu, while I do respect your opinion (honestly) and agree with where you are coming from, something I believe what many are seeing is that VFK is trying to make a new VMK. (aka replacement)

In comparision, VFK is trying to do pretty much everything VMK did, just not getting it quite right.

aengus
06-15-2008, 05:27 PM
Hi
My biggest disapointment was people always comparing with vmk,this game is not vmk ,they are the people that let us down , so in fairness i think we should support them a bit more and hope things get better.I do not understand people going on about vmk when we were badly let down by them, but the same people ,moan about this game if it is not like vmk ,the other half moan because they say they are copying vmk.
Vmk is no more, so maybe support the game that is trying, although not getting everything right as yet, but they have not had three years, and lets face never did vmk .


I will give you that lisu, but the fact is, vfk staked its entire existance on being like vmk

if vfk would like to stop being compared to vmk the answer is stop being like vmk.

vmkfan13
06-15-2008, 05:27 PM
I praise VFK for being a home-made game.. but I think it's a fair comparison to compare VFK's beta with another (similar) game's beta.

Belle1997
06-15-2008, 05:33 PM
Just for the record I see lots wrong, but complaining about it does not change what it is right now. Still not even beta quality. But I guess I just choose to enjoy what I can. And when I get bored I go off to other games that I am enjoying. Like small worlds.

It is what it is. Though I do hope it gets a ton better. If it stays this way I too will be jumping ship.

Do I believe their time lines no. So when they do not happen I am in no way upset. Do I belief there goals. Nope. So again nothing to get upset with. Do I like that they can not meet them. No and it does not bode well for the future. But for right now I do not sweat the small things. There is so much more to be worried about in this world. Than if VFK is going to work.

Why am I not joining in the posts venting their frustrations. No point.

Whatever will happen will happen so I learned to never put all my eggs in one basket. Unfortunately I did not follow this advice with VMK.

So I have my hand in a few games. If dis boards decided to close this thread again would not bother me. Would be sad but it is just a game. Right now no where close to a community since most players we can not even find.

I am not a VFK cheerleader. I am still still on the fence. Am I thrilled with VFK no way.

Am I enjoying the bird game yes. And feeling pretty proud this old brain is learning new things.

Will this game get its act together have no idea does not look promising. But until then I will enjoy what I can.

aengus
06-15-2008, 05:37 PM
Just for the record I see lots wrong, but complaining about it does not change what it is right now. Still not even beta quality. But I guess I just choose to enjoy what I can. And when I get bored I go off to other games that I am enjoying. Like small worlds.

It is what it is. Though I do hope it gets a ton better. If it stays this way I too will be jumping ship.

Do I believe their time lines no. So when they do not happen I am in no way upset. Do I belief there goals. Nope. So again nothing to get upset with. Do I like that they can not meet them. No and it does not bode well for the future. But for right now I do not sweat the small things. There is so much more to be worried about in this world. Than if VFK is going to work.

Why am I not joining in the posts venting their frustrations. No point.

Whatever will happen will happen so I learned to never put all my eggs in one basket. Unfortunately I did not follow this advice with VMK.

So I have my hand in a few games. If dis boards decided to close this thread again would not bother me. Would be sad but it is just a game. Right now no where close to a community since most players we can not even find.

I am not a VFK cheerleader. I am still still on the fence. Am I thrilled with VFK no way.

Am I enjoying the bird game yes. And feeling pretty proud this old brain is learning new things.

Will this game get its act together have no idea does not look promising. But until then I will enjoy what I can.


Belle you know i <3 you ;)

My point was, this thread has always had trouble because there is no balance.

I am budding out again honest ROFL. I only jumped back in because of the comment about people leaving this thread for the negativity. I know several people who also left it because of the failure to see anything wrong.

Thats all, I am a moderator, I cant let that kind of a statement go unchallenged. Going back to observe from a distance :rotfl:

WWEDUDE
06-15-2008, 05:40 PM
VMK never had beach balls. They never dressers, dice, flower lights, and all of that. There are ALOT of differences between this and VMK.

souper
06-15-2008, 05:48 PM
Hi There!
Timing is everything...Since Aengus is observing from a distance, I’ll post . (hehe) :lmao:

Just a few of my opinions:

Is VFK perfect? No.
Do I wish VFK was further along in the development state? Yes.
Do I enjoy struggling to exit the rooms? No.
Do I like Audubon’s Wildlife Adventure more than Haunted Mansion? No.
Do I like Audubon’s Wildlife Adventure more than POTC? Yes. (I was a terrible pirate!)
Do I write VFK when I like or dislike something? Yes.
Do I write VFK with suggestions on how to improve? Yes.
Do I get a written reply? No. However, I feel the mail is read. A few days ago I had a technical log in issue using IE6. (Firefox would work, IE would not) I had this problem for a few days. I tried a few things on my own with no success. After learning a friend had the same problem, I wrote to VFK. Less than 24 hours, the issue was resolved.
Since VMK closed have I joined other online game(s) in addition to VFK? Yes.
Do I try to sign in to VFK every day, even if just for a half hour? Yes.

Now for the big question:

Why do I bother playing VFK? When I was really down and out about VMK closing, there was one place that gave me hope. It was the “potential” of a place called VFK. It gave me the hope that many of the friends I made in VMK would have a place to be together and hang out. The hope is what helped me get through some of the sadness in final weeks of VMK. Only time will tell if I will continue to play VFK. For now, I sign in for a few reasons. These reasons include friends, checking out the game, and also as a way to say thanks to VFK for giving me that priceless gift of hope when I needed it. If it turns out that all I ever get from VFK is the feeling “hope” back in April and May 2008, it is more than enough for me.


Some of my friends are registered and stop in VFK. Some choose not to play VFK and I see them in other online worlds or in forums like DisBoards. Unfortunately at this time there is no one place that we all call home together. For me, that is the saddest part of all.

So my friends, that is why this little reindeer watches birds.

As for my optimism (on any topic), I try to see the glass half full whenever possible. And no, it is not always possible, but I try.

:hug:

Belle1997
06-15-2008, 05:48 PM
Belle you know i <3 you ;)

My point was, this thread has always had trouble because there is no balance.

I am budding out again honest ROFL. I only jumped back in because of the comment about people leaving this thread for the negativity. I know several people who also left it because of the failure to see anything wrong.

Thats all, I am a moderator, I cant let that kind of a statement go unchallenged. Going back to observe from a distance :rotfl:

:hug:

And yes it has no balance. Maybe we can hope for that one day too :goodvibes

And yes I do understand you could not let it go unchallenged.

Belle1997
06-15-2008, 05:54 PM
Why do I bother playing VFK? When I was really down and out about VMK closing, there was one place that gave me hope. It was the “potential” of a place called VFK. It gave me the hope that many of the friends I made in VMK would have a place to be together and hang out. The hope is what helped me get through some of the sadness in final weeks of VMK. Only time will tell if I will continue to play VFK. For now, I sign in for a few reasons. These reasons include friends, checking out the game, and also as a way to say thanks to VFK for giving me that priceless gift of hope when I needed it. If it turns out that all I ever get from VFK is the feeling “hope” back in April and May 2008, it is more than enough for me.
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So my friends, that is why this little reindeer watches birds.

As for my optimism (on any topic), I try to see the glass half full whenever possible. And no, it is not always possible, but I try.

:hug:

Thank you for that post. I could not put into words what you did. Yes it gave me hope too. It made the big black whole of VMK less painful as we laughed about the bugs. Made the transition to other games much easier.

Made the hope we might see some of our friends again who are not on Dis.
You wrote it beautifully thank you.

PS I like getting you messages in the game :hug:

aengus
06-15-2008, 06:48 PM
Hi There!
Timing is everything...Since Aengus is observing from a distance, I’ll post . (hehe) :lmao:



:hug:

so reported!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SharkMeal
06-15-2008, 07:51 PM
Hi There!
Timing is everything...Since Aengus is observing from a distance, I’ll post . (hehe) :lmao:

Just a few of my opinions:

Is VFK perfect? No.
Do I wish VFK was further along in the development state? Yes.
Do I enjoy struggling to exit the rooms? No.
Do I like Audubon’s Wildlife Adventure more than Haunted Mansion? No.
Do I like Audubon’s Wildlife Adventure more than POTC? Yes. (I was a terrible pirate!)
Do I write VFK when I like or dislike something? Yes.
Do I write VFK with suggestions on how to improve? Yes.
Do I get a written reply? No. However, I feel the mail is read. A few days ago I had a technical log in issue using IE6. (Firefox would work, IE would not) I had this problem for a few days. I tried a few things on my own with no success. After learning a friend had the same problem, I wrote to VFK. Less than 24 hours, the issue was resolved.
Since VMK closed have I joined other online game(s) in addition to VFK? Yes.
Do I try to sign in to VFK every day, even if just for a half hour? Yes.

Now for the big question:

Why do I bother playing VFK? When I was really down and out about VMK closing, there was one place that gave me hope. It was the “potential” of a place called VFK. It gave me the hope that many of the friends I made in VMK would have a place to be together and hang out. The hope is what helped me get through some of the sadness in final weeks of VMK. Only time will tell if I will continue to play VFK. For now, I sign in for a few reasons. These reasons include friends, checking out the game, and also as a way to say thanks to VFK for giving me that priceless gift of hope when I needed it. If it turns out that all I ever get from VFK is the feeling “hope” back in April and May 2008, it is more than enough for me.


Some of my friends are registered and stop in VFK. Some choose not to play VFK and I see them in other online worlds or in forums like DisBoards. Unfortunately at this time there is no one place that we all call home together. For me, that is the saddest part of all.

So my friends, that is why this little reindeer watches birds.

As for my optimism (on any topic), I try to see the glass half full whenever possible. And no, it is not always possible, but I try.

:hug:

Me likes that post. ::yes::

Belle1997
06-15-2008, 08:07 PM
Attention plz drum roll
Littlebelle just got in the VFK bird game are you waiting. Well remember when I could barely get over 60 to a 100 a game. Ready

3580 Yup you are reading it clearly. I would have got higher I am sure but ran out of gas do to bad lack and barely made it. Was so afraid I was going to crash.

I got excited at 1500 then 2000 then it was yeah baby lets go. Woot Woot Woot

SharkMeal
06-15-2008, 08:31 PM
Attention plz drum roll
Littlebelle just got in the VFK bird game are you waiting. Well remember when I could barely get over 60 to a 100 a game. Ready

3580 Yup you are reading it clearly. I would have got higher I am sure but ran out of gas do to bad lack and barely made it. Was so afraid I was going to crash.

I got excited at 1500 then 2000 then it was yeah baby lets go. Woot Woot Woot

WOOT!!!! Congrats on your score Belle!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

gshawen
06-15-2008, 08:51 PM
I just wish VFK would give people their titles, make the rooms easier to enter and exit, etc than to try and do quests and make new items. I would not have any complaints knowing it is beta and has lots of bugs, but with making new items for sale and adding quests while you still have bugs just does not make much sense.

souper
06-15-2008, 09:35 PM
so reported!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

Diva of Dragons
06-15-2008, 09:41 PM
Aside from wishing the doorways were bigger, I really wish they would make it so that you could move around without accidentally clicking on other people. If you click within an inch of someone, you get their info. and can't move to that spot or click the person next to them.

That's my big gripe right now. Otherwise, I am entertaining myself elsewhere and keeping my mind open to the possibilitiy of what VMK can become.:)

VMK_Mouse
06-15-2008, 09:56 PM
VMK never had beach balls. They never dressers, dice, flower lights, and all of that. There are ALOT of differences between this and VMK.


VMK had Beach Ball chairs. :)

A dresser or any other item that is not functional is pretty useless.

Bugdozer
06-15-2008, 10:05 PM
Major RANT

If you do not feel like reading a post that is not sugar coated with honey then I warn you to read no further. I am entitled to my opinion and if you think it is negativity then that is just your opinion.

Ink and I were VERY excited about this new quest. Saturday morning we logged on at 10am-opening. We spent 3 hours looking for the quest with no luck. We asked several staff members about it and were told they knew nothing about a quest. Ok fine trying to give them benefit of the doubt. After 3 hours of searching we had to leave. See it is father's day weekend and we were going to go visit grandpa over night. I told Ink not to worry we would do quest on Sunday night when we got home as we would not be home real late.

Flash forward to tonight. We got home at about 9:15. Ink and i literally ran to our computers and fired them up. Ink checked the boards to see if quest was up and yelled to me that there was a quest. We both excitingly log into VFK dieing to do out first "quest". Well we were slapped in the face! You see the quest is now closed.

We were/are angry as could be. I have found out through the posts here that the quest did not even open until 11pm Saturday night eastern and they closed it at 9 pm eastern Sunday. Not even 24 hours!!! I am sorry but this is pure CRAP!!!!! There is no reason at all to pull this kind of garbage. If they want to drive away people well guess what it will be the first thing they are successful at.

This was this first ever quest. Great detail should have gone into making sure that all went smooth and was perfect. They knew what they were in for. There was NOTHING posted on their home page about quest hours. Staff new nothing. They should have also taken into account this was Father's day weekend. I thought this game was created to be fun entertaining and possibly a bit educational. Well it is horrible not fun and the only education I am getting from it is that they have no clue what they are doing.

I am highly disappoint how they handled this. I have lost faith that things will get better. Both Ink and I are upset that we were unable to try this quest. I have sent a letter to contact us expressing my displeasure in all this but if they stay true to form I do not expect to hear back from them.

As for this thread I had stopped posting for a bit. Not because of the negativity but for the complete opposite reason. While for the longest time I have tried to keep an open mind some people just seem to think that VFK can do no wrong. Well I do not agree with that anymore and got tired of all the gushy sweet posts. Today and this quest was a real eye opener for me. I do not expect you to agree with me but I have a right to feel how I do and I HOPE that VFK people read this and learn. This is not the time to drive fan base away. They need to keep every player then can but at this rate they will either loose players or they will not survive long-thing is after tonight I am not sure I care any more.

Bug

IliketheTitanic
06-15-2008, 11:19 PM
Well said bug,

Myself I was also away today because of fathers day, so I sent in a complaint, and in a nutshell, I said if things dont clear up and VFK doesnt start getting its act together they will be losing a player, me and I will be probably be playing the Smallworlds game. Why couldn't they extend the deadline one more day or at least until VFK closed :confused3

Bee2u
06-16-2008, 12:56 AM
Can somebody explain these times to me? I don't understand the :98 part, and the order of numbers 12 - 15 and 17 - 19 has me confused, too.

Summer Surfs up Fun Quest:

Quickest Times:

1. iSirius 8:02
2. Persephone 9:98
3. PrincessDelaney 10:98
4. KidCircusFan 11:02
5. SnowyRoad 12:02
6. stephyrocks 12:54
7. guitardreamergirl 13:02
8. Guest4683 13:57
9. PrincessApple 14:98
10. Evil 14:98
11. Redrum 15:98
12. cocowgirl 16:03
13. BriarOtter 16:09
14. Guest5272 16:98
15. ImjustBeeNme 16:02
16. CuteStarPluto 17:98
17. Cooldizprinces 18:98
18. astromadmagic 18:02
19. HyperMaroonGirl 18:98
20. PrinceBlueYoshi 19:02
21. Shellyfish 20:33

KingQuackATac
06-16-2008, 04:28 AM
Check the VFK Homepage for an announcement of a Quest set to run sometime Monday evening (6/16).

Also, there is word from a developer and User1 that a new item will be on sale Monday. She was demonstrating it in ShoreBoy's room last night.

RED LAVA LAMP
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii296/KingQuackATac/VFKRedLavaLamp.jpg

Diva of Dragons
06-16-2008, 04:31 AM
Can somebody explain these times to me? I don't understand the :98 part, and the order of numbers 12 - 15 and 17 - 19 has me confused, too.

I think the numbers are proof that VFK has it's own cosmic timezone. Explains a lot!;)

SharkMeal
06-16-2008, 07:25 AM
The red lava lamp and purple beach ball are out!!

http://i30.tinypic.com/2cmn2wl.png

http://i30.tinypic.com/148j1w8.png

EDIT: King, I do not see any mention of a quest this evening on the homepage. And I love your
signature!! LOL

And after reading the last couple of pages again, I'm kinda confused. I've been posting positively,
I know VFK has a whole lot to improve on, but I've been trying to think on the positive side, and
post on the positive side. Because I don't think anyone here thinks that VFK is perfect. I know I have anger problems and I try not to trigger them. Didn't know
positivity would make people leave. Hmm.

And Bug, I'm sorry that happened. I did do the quest, but it wasn't too
fun. Do you know how long I was clicking on the stupid castle turret
before the next task finally came up?! :furious: About an hour and a half. It
was all buggy and crashed my whole computer here and there.

Bugdozer
06-16-2008, 10:39 AM
The red lava lamp and purple beach ball are out!!

http://i30.tinypic.com/2cmn2wl.png

http://i30.tinypic.com/148j1w8.png

EDIT: King, I do not see any mention of a quest this evening on the homepage. And I love your
signature!! LOL

And after reading the last couple of pages again, I'm kinda confused. I've been posting positively,
I know VFK has a whole lot to improve on, but I've been trying to think on the positive side, and
post on the positive side. Because I don't think anyone here thinks that VFK is perfect. I know I have anger problems and I try not to trigger them. Didn't know
positivity would make people leave. Hmm.

And Bug, I'm sorry that happened. I did do the quest, but it wasn't too
fun. Do you know how long I was clicking on the stupid castle turret
before the next task finally came up?! :furious: About an hour and a half. It
was all buggy and crashed my whole computer here and there.

But at least you had the chance to do it. This just brings back so many memories of a big quest that ended early and how angry people got. Funny how everyone seems to have forgotten things and thinks this game is soooo perfect. They have a long way to go and I can only hope they learn from their mistakes.

Bug

GoofyWaterCoaster
06-16-2008, 11:04 AM
Major RANT

If you do not feel like reading a post that is not sugar coated with honey then I warn you to read no further. I am entitled to my opinion and if you think it is negativity then that is just your opinion.

Ink and I were VERY excited about this new quest. Saturday morning we logged on at 10am-opening. We spent 3 hours looking for the quest with no luck. We asked several staff members about it and were told they knew nothing about a quest. Ok fine trying to give them benefit of the doubt. After 3 hours of searching we had to leave. See it is father's day weekend and we were going to go visit grandpa over night. I told Ink not to worry we would do quest on Sunday night when we got home as we would not be home real late.

Flash forward to tonight. We got home at about 9:15. Ink and i literally ran to our computers and fired them up. Ink checked the boards to see if quest was up and yelled to me that there was a quest. We both excitingly log into VFK dieing to do out first "quest". Well we were slapped in the face! You see the quest is now closed.

We were/are angry as could be. I have found out through the posts here that the quest did not even open until 11pm Saturday night eastern and they closed it at 9 pm eastern Sunday. Not even 24 hours!!! I am sorry but this is pure CRAP!!!!! There is no reason at all to pull this kind of garbage. If they want to drive away people well guess what it will be the first thing they are successful at.

This was this first ever quest. Great detail should have gone into making sure that all went smooth and was perfect. They knew what they were in for. There was NOTHING posted on their home page about quest hours. Staff new nothing. They should have also taken into account this was Father's day weekend. I thought this game was created to be fun entertaining and possibly a bit educational. Well it is horrible not fun and the only education I am getting from it is that they have no clue what they are doing.

I am highly disappoint how they handled this. I have lost faith that things will get better. Both Ink and I are upset that we were unable to try this quest. I have sent a letter to contact us expressing my displeasure in all this but if they stay true to form I do not expect to hear back from them.

As for this thread I had stopped posting for a bit. Not because of the negativity but for the complete opposite reason. While for the longest time I have tried to keep an open mind some people just seem to think that VFK can do no wrong. Well I do not agree with that anymore and got tired of all the gushy sweet posts. Today and this quest was a real eye opener for me. I do not expect you to agree with me but I have a right to feel how I do and I HOPE that VFK people read this and learn. This is not the time to drive fan base away. They need to keep every player then can but at this rate they will either loose players or they will not survive long-thing is after tonight I am not sure I care any more.

Bug

I agree 100%

That's one major reason why I quit VFK

MickeyBeast
06-16-2008, 11:19 AM
I started but never got the chance to finish it. Too much lag and too much clicking....I am more enchanted by Small Worlds then this torture

souper
06-16-2008, 11:20 AM
First, I am sorry to Bug and anyone else that missed the quest. :hug: One day items and events were something in VMK that made me crazy. I'd love to see most things items for sale including specials/quests available for at least 10 days. It would allow players young and old to take a week vacation and not miss anything. It would remove the option to have to have a friend shop while we are away.

I was also clicking and walking around that morning for 1 1/2 hours trying to find it and figure out how it started. It was not until late Saturday night I that saw the quest while signing on to play a game of Audubon before going to sleep. As for the turret task in the crossroads that Shark mentioned, I had to ask a friend for help on that one question. :confused3

As I stated clearly in post #2537, I do not think VFK is perfect. I do however try my best to give then "support", encouragement and feedback. I use their contact us feature several times a week.

When there is something new in VFK that I like, I let them what I like and why. If I can think of a way that I would bring the item or feature to an even better level, I include it.
When there is something I dislike, I let them know and explain how and why I would like it to be changed.
When I have a problem or something frustrates me, I let them know and offer any options I can think of as to how they could make it better.

Hopefully this second quest scheduled later today will go better for anyone that is still playing the game.

SharkMeal
06-16-2008, 11:20 AM
But at least you had the chance to do it. This just brings back so many memories of a big quest that ended early and how angry people got. Funny how everyone seems to have forgotten things and thinks this game is soooo perfect. They have a long way to go and I can only hope they learn from their mistakes.

Bug

I do not think the game is perfect at all. O_O They've broken just about
every promise they made, and it has not been run all that well lately. There
has also been no communication between VFK_'s and the technical producers/
Sara and Fred the creators. But I still seem to have faith anyway, since it's
the only online game that appeals to me atm. :worried: But they are
reading and they are listening, they said the blue surfboard would be
for boys and pink would be for girls, all the girls (and a few boys XD) went
crazy and complained and rioted because of that. They listened, and gave
the option to choose. I do hope they continue to listen to us and make
the game better :)

And by the way, where are you getting there is a quest scheduled this evening? I don't see anything
about it on the home page, or the notes when I log in and you scroll down, and no staff has announced it. I'm confused.

Belle1997
06-16-2008, 01:33 PM
Yes bug I too am sorry you missed the quest. Yes there are major issues with VFK. We all know this. And I believe nothing is going to change for a while.

First I do not think they have first hand knowledge of making a game. From what I read they took a business platform and are working with that. They are learning by trial and error.

I am prepared to sit on the fence for a few more months as they work through the many glitches. Yes they should not have opened. But if they did not everyone would be saying see a scam. Now they open everyone says this is awful.

They took advantage of us needing a home. No, we chose to go try it out. because at that point we had nothing that worked for us. Many think it is poor. So many people do not try and play it anymore. Many have found other games to get involved with so have I.

Going to VFK was our choice. Staying or leaving for right now is each persons choice. I do not look badly on those who chose not to play. Just as many of my friends today stopped playing VMK.

I am sad many of my friends to not try to play VFK. Cause I would like to see them in the game. So I do hope they do get it together like Bug said so they do not lose their fan base.


It may have parts that are awful. But given the time line they are not doing to bad.

I do not get myself worked up over what is not working etc in VFK. When I get too frustrated I go to the other on line games that are working.

Just because I choose not to vent my frustration or pick out the negatives does not mean I do not see them.

I just figured it is what it is why stress about it. Hope for the best and prepare for the worse.

I do believe they are trying and are overwhelmed. How my complaining will help that I do not see any benefit.

Do not think it will get them better organized, or better communication.

My life example:

I for one work better under a supportive system. When boss A asks me to do typing I become all thumbs. I panick because he is constantly saying I need it soon, when will it be done. When I do my best and he finds mistakes he makes me feel little. His critical behaviour makes me less productive because I am trying way to hard to be perfect.

Boss B on the other hand says can you help me? Do your best. Leaves me alone to finish. My work is so much better I have gained in confidence and willing to keep trying. His more silent approach actually lets me enjoy what I am doing and keeps my creative problem solving free from the pressure of stress.

So if that is how I work better who am I to treat someone else the way I would not want to be treated. Yes I know VFK lack of good communication does not show us repsect either. But I think that is more to being swamped and pressured. Also reading all the negative threads I am sure does not help them.

I just figure I am lossing nothing by watching VFK develop major flaws and all.

It is no where near any of the beta games we are playing. But it has only been two months.

I know we vent because we are disappointed that what we hoped for is not working. We are still hurting from how disney handle us.

Just see no point in hashing over and over again what they are still doing wrong. There are plenty already doing this.

When people are constantly picking out the negatives there is always a group trying to counter act that. I think it is human nature. To try and bring a balance. What we get though is two sides no where near each other on very opposing sides. I was always taught you need three positives to counter act a negative.

Guess that is just me. Staying loyal even when many jump ship is what makes me a good friend but also can make me look naive. But I am not. I choose the glass half full.

I still wonder if all our negative complaining is what was one the the final straws for VMK. I will never know but inside I feel partly responsible for all the critism I gave, though many time it seemed justified.

That is my take on it.

Mnementh
06-16-2008, 02:30 PM
Just wanted to say that to most people that are trying to enjoy the game flaws and all it does start to come across like bashing. Have you noticed many many disers are no longer posting on this thread. They have left because all the negative critisism is just depressing. But everyone has their right to voice their opinion. Just very few of the people actually getting a little pleasure out of bird watching are no longer around.

Just for the record, many left for the opposite reason also.

I have read this thread in its entirety and I continue to do so, but I really don't post much on here anymore, either, and it's because of the thread itself that I don't. When the game started, I was okay with it, though I realized it was no VMK. Then I read a lot of the criticisms on here and I sort of brushed them off and continued to play. Then I started playing another game and realized just HOW right the criticisms are of VFK. It doesn't just have a little way to go. It has a LONG way to go. Now, I devote 90% of my time to the other game. I did sign on over the weekend and did the quest with both my and my fiance's characters. I've played that Audobon game a grand total of maybe 5 times (not counting during the quest because I wasn't actually playing then). I rarely log on and if the game continues in this direction, my playing time will probably drop to 0, especially with the upcoming release of another MMO that I'm really looking forward to. This is coming from someone who was once one of the biggest positive speakers regarding VFK :(

SharkMeal
06-16-2008, 02:45 PM
I agree with every word of Belle's post. No, letter!

WWEDUDE
06-16-2008, 03:00 PM
First off, I am looking for someone to help out on the wiki adding new furniture/items. If anyone wants to help please PM me.

Secondly, I agree 100% everyone is entitled to their opinion, but flaming a company for being tardy? Was VMK tardy a few times? You better believe it! They are in beta, and anything that could go wrong has. They wanted to create a place we could enjoy, so they released early, we are flaming them for trying to fill a place in our hearts. If that place isn't going to be filled by this game, then good luck on your searching, it's called beta for a reason, don't like it then come back later on.

~Dude (VFK Supporter - Almost One Month)

Bee2u
06-16-2008, 04:57 PM
I apparently have a way different meaning for the word 'flaming' than you do, because I really haven't seen any. Criticism of recurring flaws is not flaming, it's venting frustration.


Belle, another life example:
For 16 years when it came time for my evaluation, the principals had nothing negative to say, just positives. Now while this may sound nice, I know I'm not perfect.

This year, with a different principal, I still got a good evaluation, but he also mentioned some areas I could improve and gave suggestions on how to improve them. I would have changed years ago if only someone had just said something.

Next year, I know my principal expects to see a change in the areas he mentioned, and if I refuse to change I would expect my evaluation to go down.


This is the problem I'm seeing with VFK (VMK, too): they don't learn from their mistakes, in fact they don't admit that they've made any mistakes.

lisuhut
06-16-2008, 05:16 PM
Hi
I can see everybodys point of view and reasons for frustration , but can i just remind people that we are testing a game that is not open yet, so why would it be perfect with no flaws ?
Games can be open for years but still have flaws and faults.
We need to give them time and support .

Cardinal
06-16-2008, 05:18 PM
Hey, guys! Guess what? I heard that in VFK, the streets are paved with gold! :)

aengus
06-16-2008, 05:30 PM
I would like to ask that if you did quit VFK that you dont post only to cause arguments. If you don't play then there really is not much to discuss right?

If you did quit and find a particular topic interesting, please by all means participate. There is a difference between contributing to a topic and just trying to flame people.

Just a matter of treating people with respect I think.

This was not aimed at anyone in particular.

GoofyWaterCoaster
06-16-2008, 05:32 PM
I have read this thread in its entirety and I continue to do so, but I really don't post much on here anymore, either, and it's because of the thread itself that I don't. When the game started, I was okay with it, though I realized it was no VMK. Then I read a lot of the criticisms on here and I sort of brushed them off and continued to play. Then I started playing another game and realized just HOW right the criticisms are of VFK. It doesn't just have a little way to go. It has a LONG way to go. Now, I devote 90% of my time to the other game. I did sign on over the weekend and did the quest with both my and my fiance's characters. I've played that Audobon game a grand total of maybe 5 times (not counting during the quest because I wasn't actually playing then). I rarely log on and if the game continues in this direction, my playing time will probably drop to 0, especially with the upcoming release of another MMO that I'm really looking forward to. This is coming from someone who was once one of the biggest positive speakers regarding VFK :(

I agree completely.

I was extremely excited at the start of this game, and my excitement is dwindling down to 0%

mickeyminnie123
06-16-2008, 05:34 PM
ummmI just logged on and all of my furniture that I placed in my room the night before is gone. Dis it only happen to me? And the furniture is also gone from my inventory as well. :confused3 :worried:

ETA: Refreshed page a few times and it re-Appeared.

NedsTJ
06-16-2008, 05:37 PM
Hey, guys! Guess what? I heard that in VFK, the streets are paved with gold! :)
:rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl: :rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl: :rotfl2: :lmao: :rotfl: :rotfl2:

threeboysmom
06-16-2008, 06:18 PM
Any word on the new quest today? I didn't get a chance yesterday to do the quest for the pink surfboard (cry cry) so I'd like to at least attempt today's quest...

I don't post much on this VFK thread, but I am reading. I just don't want to make waves because I can be very opinionated at times, LOL!

Despite all the frustrations and the disappointments, I am still willing to wait on this game. I just don't log in very often, but keep abreast of progress on this thread. My only gripe with them is that they seem to be poor on organization and priorities - making that many new rooms without a map and making poor Pink WALK everywhere aimlessly is without excuse! I refuse to walk all the way to that bird game, so I remain dirt poor - it kills me that I can't afford anything that is coming out. I'm so used to virtual Pink being able to buy whatever she wants whenever she wants. This is a life lesson for me, LOL!

I know some ppl ;) are bugged that VFK seems to be copying VMK, but can I say for the record, I WANT them to copy VMK! The more like VMK the better! I MISS MY VMK more and more each day. SmallWorlds is great and all, but I'm getting a little frustrated by the missions of having to play stupid arcade games - I don't WANT to play those stinking arcade games! LOL! But I'm forced to suffer through the agonizing frustration of them because "me poor" and they have fabulouso furniture :goodvibes

OK, I'm rambling. Just want to say I'm hanging onto hope for VFK. It saddens me to see so many people being so negative towards them. Yes, they opened too early, but I understand why they did and I'm willing to cut them a break.

What saddens me the MOST is that here we are as a community... a family.... looking for a place to belong again.......and this thread is doing nothing but tearing us apart. As much as I wanted discussion on VFK here on the DIS boards (and almost lost a friendship over it), I'd rather see this thread closed than all of us in here fighting over a game. :(

Mnementh
06-16-2008, 06:48 PM
What saddens me the MOST is that here we are as a community... a family.... looking for a place to belong again.......and this thread is doing nothing but tearing us apart.

You're absolutely right about that. I hate that part of it, too. Even more, I hate that we've been forced to resort to searching for a new place to play. As was discussed prior to VMK's closing, VMK had something for everybody. None of these other games (so far) have that. Like you, I'd love to see VFK become as close to VMK as possible (without being shut down by WDIG). Hopefully, we can all be united with this game. At this point in the game's life, however, I can see why so many have moved on to other games. Here's hoping VFK can become something all of us former VMKers can enjoy.

Bugdozer
06-16-2008, 06:49 PM
Hi,

Finally A step in the right direction- all your online friends are at the top of your friends list in alphabetical order and the non online friends are now in alphabetical order. Aso quest is from 5-10pm pacific. Prize is blue lava lamp.

Another new thing ink noticed is that the box around people is gone making it much easier to get by people.
Bug

MPhins13
06-16-2008, 06:59 PM
Hi,

Finally A step in the right direction- all your online friends are at the top of your friends list in alphabetical order and the non online friends are now in alphabetical order. Aso quest is from 5-10pm pacific. Prize is blue lava lamp.

Bug

Thanks for the update. Before doing the quest last night I had been on VFK for a total of about 2 hours since it opened. I read this thread to see what's happening. It's great to see that VFK is making some progress. I will definitely have to sign in to do the quest this evening.

SharkMeal
06-16-2008, 07:03 PM
Also there is no more huge personal space. Now you have to actually click the
player's body, not around them, but on their body for the buttons show up!

That means it's a lot harder to jam up and block the exits! Credit to ink for that.

Bug edited right before I posted :P

MPhins13
06-16-2008, 07:20 PM
Also there is no more huge personal space. Now you have to actually click the
player's body, not around them, but on their body for the buttons show up!

That means it's a lot harder to jam up and block the exits! Credit to ink for that.

Bug edited right before I posted :P

Awesome. Woot!! That was one thing that was annoying lol. It will make things go smoother tonight.
There are many things that I feel are negative about VFK, but I'm excited that they have made progress and look forward to more progress being made.

Tink Mick Koda Miles
06-16-2008, 07:50 PM
anyone doing the quest right now and got the "gas light" task done??

Tink Mick Koda Miles
06-16-2008, 07:52 PM
forget it got it :)

vmkfan13
06-16-2008, 07:54 PM
I was excited until I heard the game was based of history, a subject I don't find much entertainment from and considering that American history doesn't really matter to me since I don't live in the states.

ForeverWDW
06-16-2008, 07:58 PM
I have tried to stay possitive about VFK and support what they have been doing but right now they dont seem to be going in a good dirrection. They are trying way to hard to please us with what they think we want. So in case anyone out there is watching here is a list for you, from me.

I want:
I want you to stop adding more items/rooms/quests until you have had time to fix the bugs you already have. I dont care if it takes 2 weeks to fix the current bugs, I just want to enjoy your game without them. I dont like being stuck to a wall, unable to move, shrinking, buggy friend lists, lag, no clue of exits unless I stumble on them, etc.. Stop, just stop and fix the problems. I can wait for new items I dont mind.
Release item/room/quest, find the bugs, fix the bugs, release new item/room/quest (lather, rinse, and repeat). Not hard. Not complicated. We expect this. Thats what we signed up for, to have fun finding the bugs for you to fix. To me it was a fun adventure seeing what new bugs I could find when you released something. The problem is your NOT fixing any bugs and creating new ones making the game more difficult and agravating to play.
I want you to follow through with things you have said would happen. We are still waiting for the original promise of the Hat when we signed up, the day one shirts, the opening of Merlins shop. You made a promise of those items first. Instead we got a Wild west store that has items that dont even fit a theme. We have a bird game in the Wild West where we drive a Hummer (had you made us ride horses it may have made more sense). It make no sense that you have all the time in the world to release those things but none of your previous promises. You need to mean what you say and say what you mean. Dont wave a pretty shinny object in front of our faces and think we forgot what was promised.
I want you to communicate better with the staff in game. As agrivating as it is for us to hear they have no clue what is going on, I cant imagine the flustration they feel having to answer that way. Immidiately post something on your homepage if there are delays so that staff can dirrect us there. Nothing fancy needed, simple page with the update on problems. And for gods sake stop erasing stuff. It looks like you want to hide it from us, like your being dishonest.

I like:
I like how you are trying your hardest to please us. I have loved all the ideas you have and where you want to take this game. Two thumbs up for your ideas. Take a moment and rethink a few things before you lose people who still believe you have what it takes.

My posse and me are going to mosey on over to the store and check out the new fang-dangled light or maybe one of those there fancy flower chairs to buy for Ma or Pa

Bugdozer
06-16-2008, 08:12 PM
I have tried to stay possitive about VFK and support what they have been doing but right now they dont seem to be going in a good dirrection. They are trying way to hard to please us with what they think we want. So in case anyone out there is watching here is a list for you, from me.

I want:
I want you to stop adding more items/rooms/quests until you have had time to fix the bugs you already have. I dont care if it takes 2 weeks to fix the current bugs, I just want to enjoy your game without them. I dont like being stuck to a wall, unable to move, shrinking, buggy friend lists, lag, no clue of exits unless I stumble on them, etc.. Stop, just stop and fix the problems. I can wait for new items I dont mind.
Release item/room/quest, find the bugs, fix the bugs, release new item/room/quest (lather, rinse, and repeat). Not hard. Not complicated. We expect this. Thats what we signed up for, to have fun finding the bugs for you to fix. To me it was a fun adventure seeing what new bugs I could find when you released something. The problem is your NOT fixing any bugs and creating new ones making the game more difficult and agravating to play.
I want you to follow through with things you have said would happen. We are still waiting for the original promise of the Hat when we signed up, the day one shirts, the opening of Merlins shop. You made a promise of those items first. Instead we got a Wild west store that has items that dont even fit a theme. We have a bird game in the Wild West where we drive a Hummer (had you made us ride horses it may have made more sense). It make no sense that you have all the time in the world to release those things but none of your previous promises. You need to mean what you say and say what you mean. Dont wave a pretty shinny object in front of our faces and think we forgot what was promised.
I want you to communicate better with the staff in game. As agrivating as it is for us to hear they have no clue what is going on, I cant imagine the flustration they feel having to answer that way. Immidiately post something on your homepage if there are delays so that staff can dirrect us there. Nothing fancy needed, simple page with the update on problems. And for gods sake stop erasing stuff. It looks like you want to hide it from us, like your being dishonest.

I like:
I like how you are trying your hardest to please us. I have loved all the ideas you have and where you want to take this game. Two thumbs up for your ideas. Take a moment and rethink a few things before you lose people who still believe you have what it takes.

My posse and me are going to mosey on over to the store and check out the new fang-dangled light or maybe one of those there fancy flower chairs to buy for Ma or Pa

BRAVO!!!!

Goofy05
06-16-2008, 08:18 PM
I have tried to stay possitive about VFK and support what they have been doing but right now they dont seem to be going in a good dirrection. They are trying way to hard to please us with what they think we want. So in case anyone out there is watching here is a list for you, from me.

I want:
I want you to stop adding more items/rooms/quests until you have had time to fix the bugs you already have. I dont care if it takes 2 weeks to fix the current bugs, I just want to enjoy your game without them. I dont like being stuck to a wall, unable to move, shrinking, buggy friend lists, lag, no clue of exits unless I stumble on them, etc.. Stop, just stop and fix the problems. I can wait for new items I dont mind.
Release item/room/quest, find the bugs, fix the bugs, release new item/room/quest (lather, rinse, and repeat). Not hard. Not complicated. We expect this. Thats what we signed up for, to have fun finding the bugs for you to fix. To me it was a fun adventure seeing what new bugs I could find when you released something. The problem is your NOT fixing any bugs and creating new ones making the game more difficult and agravating to play.
I want you to follow through with things you have said would happen. We are still waiting for the original promise of the Hat when we signed up, the day one shirts, the opening of Merlins shop. You made a promise of those items first. Instead we got a Wild west store that has items that dont even fit a theme. We have a bird game in the Wild West where we drive a Hummer (had you made us ride horses it may have made more sense). It make no sense that you have all the time in the world to release those things but none of your previous promises. You need to mean what you say and say what you mean. Dont wave a pretty shinny object in front of our faces and think we forgot what was promised.
I want you to communicate better with the staff in game. As agrivating as it is for us to hear they have no clue what is going on, I cant imagine the flustration they feel having to answer that way. Immidiately post something on your homepage if there are delays so that staff can dirrect us there. Nothing fancy needed, simple page with the update on problems. And for gods sake stop erasing stuff. It looks like you want to hide it from us, like your being dishonest.

I like:
I like how you are trying your hardest to please us. I have loved all the ideas you have and where you want to take this game. Two thumbs up for your ideas. Take a moment and rethink a few things before you lose people who still believe you have what it takes.

My posse and me are going to mosey on over to the store and check out the new fang-dangled light or maybe one of those there fancy flower chairs to buy for Ma or Pa

:thumbsup2
Exactly.

SharkMeal
06-16-2008, 08:19 PM
I have tried to stay possitive about VFK and support what they have been doing but right now they dont seem to be going in a good dirrection. They are trying way to hard to please us with what they think we want. So in case anyone out there is watching here is a list for you, from me.

I want:
I want you to stop adding more items/rooms/quests until you have had time to fix the bugs you already have. I dont care if it takes 2 weeks to fix the current bugs, I just want to enjoy your game without them. I dont like being stuck to a wall, unable to move, shrinking, buggy friend lists, lag, no clue of exits unless I stumble on them, etc.. Stop, just stop and fix the problems. I can wait for new items I dont mind.
Release item/room/quest, find the bugs, fix the bugs, release new item/room/quest (lather, rinse, and repeat). Not hard. Not complicated. We expect this. Thats what we signed up for, to have fun finding the bugs for you to fix. To me it was a fun adventure seeing what new bugs I could find when you released something. The problem is your NOT fixing any bugs and creating new ones making the game more difficult and agravating to play.
I want you to follow through with things you have said would happen. We are still waiting for the original promise of the Hat when we signed up, the day one shirts, the opening of Merlins shop. You made a promise of those items first. Instead we got a Wild west store that has items that dont even fit a theme. We have a bird game in the Wild West where we drive a Hummer (had you made us ride horses it may have made more sense). It make no sense that you have all the time in the world to release those things but none of your previous promises. You need to mean what you say and say what you mean. Dont wave a pretty shinny object in front of our faces and think we forgot what was promised.
I want you to communicate better with the staff in game. As agrivating as it is for us to hear they have no clue what is going on, I cant imagine the flustration they feel having to answer that way. Immidiately post something on your homepage if there are delays so that staff can dirrect us there. Nothing fancy needed, simple page with the update on problems. And for gods sake stop erasing stuff. It looks like you want to hide it from us, like your being dishonest.

I like:
I like how you are trying your hardest to please us. I have loved all the ideas you have and where you want to take this game. Two thumbs up for your ideas. Take a moment and rethink a few things before you lose people who still believe you have what it takes.

My posse and me are going to mosey on over to the store and check out the new fang-dangled light or maybe one of those there fancy flower chairs to buy for Ma or Pa

You just summed up just about everything in a calm state, in an amazing
post. Please VFK staff read this, beta testing is about finding and fixing
the bugs, not finding the bugs and leaving them to find new ones. They
just add up and up and crash the game. But do appreciate the work
they are putting into this.

Mnementh
06-16-2008, 08:21 PM
Okay, so for the second task, I have to physically say "gas light" right? If so, I can't finish the quest because for some reason, at work I'm always in single-player mode, meaning I can't talk, either.

Adambinder
06-16-2008, 08:22 PM
Here is a picture of my room. It spells VFK. (The the rest of the K got cut out of the picture.)

http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/55/77/08/vfk_my10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1&u=12557708)

SharkMeal
06-16-2008, 08:24 PM
Okay, so for the second task, I have to physically say "gas light" right? If so, I can't finish the quest because for some reason, at work I'm always in single-player mode, meaning I can't talk, either.

Say it like this: Gas light. with the capital G. And you have to say it in the
Victorian room with the house with the porch.

Adambinder: Great room!

beejer
06-16-2008, 09:33 PM
are u logging in on home page or using back door? I would suggest using home page.


:tinker: :tinker: :tinker:

tofubeast
06-16-2008, 09:38 PM
Yay, this quest was easier since VFK made some of those nice little changes today. Much easier to get around. Still needs improvement with entering rooms etc, but this is a step in the right direction.

Nice quest, but perhaps since I work with foster kids, a bit of me thought "what about those without dads?" :worried: I know their intent was good so I am not trying to be picky!

Now I have lava lamps in BOTH games I play!:hippie:

Goofy05
06-16-2008, 09:41 PM
Okay, your favorite vfk basher has some comments to add regarding tonight's quest.
First of all, I found the quest to be far too long and involved, not easy at all. Rooms to look for have no names, making it hard to know which is the correct Victorian shops room, for instance.
Secondly, most of the exits were blocked and without a map to jump to those rooms, getting there was almost as hard as figuring out where you were supposed to be.
Third, and most troublesome to me was having to see people say they love their father. There are some kids who have no father, some who live with abusive fathers. I found it very disturbing to see that as part of a game.

Gsterg
06-16-2008, 11:04 PM
hey guys its gsterg! All i have to say is that I REALLY appreciate the hardwork that is going into VFK. Ok ya so the staff dont know when the quest will come out. But its no different from vmk! Im not trying to say vfk is perfect but i AM saying we all neend to appreciate the good things while all the bugs are being fixed. I think they are releasing all this stuff bc they want to keep us occupied while they fix the bugs in so me of the old and new features. This game also has some good potential so just give it some time... And hey! Vmk had problems too!

Diva of Dragons
06-17-2008, 04:11 AM
Third, and most troublesome to me was having to see people say they love their father. There are some kids who have no father, some who live with abusive fathers. I found it very disturbing to see that as part of a game.

I missed this quest. But, I have to agree. I grew up with a single Mom. She stayed single by choice and there was absolutely no drama around it but I always felt tlike the odd kid out when we made Father's Day cards at school.

chrisb26
06-17-2008, 11:58 AM
I have tried to stay possitive about VFK and support what they have been doing but right now they dont seem to be going in a good dirrection. They are trying way to hard to please us with what they think we want. So in case anyone out there is watching here is a list for you, from me.

I want:
I want you to stop adding more items/rooms/quests until you have had time to fix the bugs you already have. I dont care if it takes 2 weeks to fix the current bugs, I just want to enjoy your game without them. I dont like being stuck to a wall, unable to move, shrinking, buggy friend lists, lag, no clue of exits unless I stumble on them, etc.. Stop, just stop and fix the problems. I can wait for new items I dont mind.
Release item/room/quest, find the bugs, fix the bugs, release new item/room/quest (lather, rinse, and repeat). Not hard. Not complicated. We expect this. Thats what we signed up for, to have fun finding the bugs for you to fix. To me it was a fun adventure seeing what new bugs I could find when you released something. The problem is your NOT fixing any bugs and creating new ones making the game more difficult and agravating to play.
I want you to follow through with things you have said would happen. We are still waiting for the original promise of the Hat when we signed up, the day one shirts, the opening of Merlins shop. You made a promise of those items first. Instead we got a Wild west store that has items that dont even fit a theme. We have a bird game in the Wild West where we drive a Hummer (had you made us ride horses it may have made more sense). It make no sense that you have all the time in the world to release those things but none of your previous promises. You need to mean what you say and say what you mean. Dont wave a pretty shinny object in front of our faces and think we forgot what was promised.
I want you to communicate better with the staff in game. As agrivating as it is for us to hear they have no clue what is going on, I cant imagine the flustration they feel having to answer that way. Immidiately post something on your homepage if there are delays so that staff can dirrect us there. Nothing fancy needed, simple page with the update on problems. And for gods sake stop erasing stuff. It looks like you want to hide it from us, like your being dishonest.

I like:
I like how you are trying your hardest to please us. I have loved all the ideas you have and where you want to take this game. Two thumbs up for your ideas. Take a moment and rethink a few things before you lose people who still believe you have what it takes.

My posse and me are going to mosey on over to the store and check out the new fang-dangled light or maybe one of those there fancy flower chairs to buy for Ma or Pa

I think you said this very well. I do have to agree with you. Part of the reason I don't play this game very often is because of the fact that they seem to add more and never fix the problems with the game.

I mean all this stuff that have released is neat but if you keep releasing and not fixing your eventually going to have way more problems then you have time to fix. Since the game is "supposed" to open the 26th which is 9 days I dont see how they will have all those problems fixed. They can't just open the game with all these bugs. It's one thing for them to be there during beta but if you open the game live you can't continue to have all these problems.

Okay, your favorite vfk basher has some comments to add regarding tonight's quest.
First of all, I found the quest to be far too long and involved, not easy at all. Rooms to look for have no names, making it hard to know which is the correct Victorian shops room, for instance.
Secondly, most of the exits were blocked and without a map to jump to those rooms, getting there was almost as hard as figuring out where you were supposed to be.
Third, and most troublesome to me was having to see people say they love their father. There are some kids who have no father, some who live with abusive fathers. I found it very disturbing to see that as part of a game.


I also will agree with you that quest was way too difficult the first question set the tone for the rest of the quest. I mean this game is supposed to be geared toward children I don't know how many kids would be able to answer some of these questions, considering my friends and I didn't know the answer. It just seemed to difficult to me.

The going from room to room is also very annoying. The main reason is the people standing on exits that is probably what bothers me the most about these quests. I was in one room on Sunday for that quest and it had taken a while to get there with lag and people standing on the exits. But I finally was almost where I needed to be and the exit was all the way blocked. A staff showed up and basically said the only way to fix this is to go back to your room and start over. This made me pretty upset since it had taken me so long to get there the last thing I wanted was to have to start all over again.

But aside from all that I must say they made me very happy yesterday because they fixed the bug that was making me the most mad since the game opened. Which was that bug that made you have that giant invisible box around you. That always was very annoying and I was very happy to see it was gone.

SharkMeal
06-17-2008, 12:22 PM
If two people entered the room at the same time, then both of them would
be stuck on the exit of the room they entered. By the time those two people
hit the home or refresh button (the only way to get unstuck), more people
will pile up. And some stubborn people will just sit there and say "I don't
want to leave, I came all this way" and people will remain forever stuck blocking
exits. That's the main thing that needs to be fixed. And I think an easy way
to fix this and MORE, is a map! :worship:

Come on VFK, release the map!

EDIT: Apparently, someone just reported that the person on the phone said there will be another
quest out today or tomorrow, my guess without the map button or bugs fixed. I'm guessing they
didn't read here did they :P

EDIT2: Now they are saying the quest will be Friday evening through all of Saturday.

poohluv2u
06-17-2008, 01:49 PM
Here is a picture of my room. It spells VFK. (The the rest of the K got cut out of the picture.)

http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/55/77/08/vfk_my10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1&u=12557708)

Sorry, I'm not trying to be negative here but ... the items all look so weird in the enviroment of this game. Almost like someone just super-imposed images onto a back ground in photoshop. It's like they have the dimension and perspective all wrong :confused:

SharkMeal
06-17-2008, 01:59 PM
Sorry, I'm not trying to be negative here but ... the items all look so weird in the enviroment of this game. Almost like someone just super-imposed images onto a back ground in photoshop. It's like they have the dimension and perspective all wrong :confused:

The beach balls bounce. That's why it looks like that. They are up in the air
when adambinder took the screenshot. As for the other items they look normal
to me. :confused:

piratesLifeYoho
06-17-2008, 02:06 PM
Sorry, I'm not trying to be negative here but ... the items all look so weird in the enviroment of this game. Almost like someone just super-imposed images onto a back ground in photoshop. It's like they have the dimension and perspective all wrong :confused:

im sure it is something VFK will improve on over time. i remember oversized chairs etc. in VMK early on. i think VFK will get it all together soon, we just need to be patient with them :)

BTW great VFK picture

Diva of Dragons
06-17-2008, 03:03 PM
Quick question...They are selling chairs etc... but are we even able to sit down yet?

SharkMeal
06-17-2008, 03:13 PM
Quick question...They are selling chairs etc... but are we even able to sit down yet?

No. LOL. I'm tired of standing up for almost a month. My legs are wobbling
and shaking.

Another new quest, this is from the home page:

VFK I Scream for Ice Cream Quest
June 20th (Friday), 5:00 PM Pacific Time, to June 21st (Saturday), 10:00 PM Pacific Time

With all this hot summer weather we need something to beat the summer heat and what is better then Ice Cream!!

This Friday and Saturday play our "I Scream for Ice Cream" quest and learn all the chilling history about Ice Cream, and maybe a little about popsicles too!

Get ready for some cool summer fun and prizes this weekend! Be there or be square.

Disney Dreams
06-17-2008, 03:33 PM
Why I am disappointed in VFK:

1. They gave me hope for a world where I made and hung with so many wonderful friends, and have not delivered.

2. They have released LOTS of cool items, with the only way to earn them being a memory test. If you have a bad memory, or don't stay signed on forever, there is no way to make decent credits to buy anything.

3. A game would be fun, a memory test is not.

4. Friends can't find each other. What's the point?

5. Exits are IMPOSSIBLE to navigate due to issues they need to fix.

6. People are invisible due to issues they need to fix.

7. People STILL don't have titles.

8. Instead of providing us with a map that would make SOOO many things easier, they are busy creating quests that are maddening to complete because of 4-6.

9. We have chairs we can't sit in. Crates we can't stack. Lights we can't turn on. Am I the only 1 that just doesn't get the order of priorities?

I am so saddened by all of this. I had so much hope for VFK and am watching our circle of friends divide between other (or no) games. Also, those with a memory are acquiring mass wealth, while those with no memory are not. And yet, there is NO WAY for friends to share with each other.

And I soooo hope it's not true, but I have heard many reports of favorites, already, on behalf of the programmers. Again, I have heard this only through others so I am just hoping it's not true. It took me 2.5 hours to complete the quest the other night. Just because I have not picked up a phone to complain does not mean I am having a good game-playing experience, not in VFK at least. And I had soooo hoped it would be home.

Sigh,
Dreams

SharkMeal
06-17-2008, 03:55 PM
I heard that if your name has a space in it, then the title won't be accepted
and you will still be a guest. Just call VFK or use contact us to fix the problem,
other people have done this and they got their title immediately.

Just for anyone who is still a guest and registered with a space in their name.

Disney Dreams
06-17-2008, 04:32 PM
I heard that if your name has a space in it, then the title won't be accepted
and you will still be a guest. Just call VFK or use contact us to fix the problem,
other people have done this and they got their title immediately.

Just for anyone who is still a guest and registered with a space in their name.

No space and when I tried to get it fixed, all my friends that I managed to find through aimless wandering were deleted and I received a new guest number. Oh yeah, loving it. :badpc:

Thanks for the suggestion though, SharkMeal. I DO appreciate it.

Bee2u
06-17-2008, 04:59 PM
The beach balls bounce. That's why it looks like that. They are up in the air
when adambinder took the screenshot. As for the other items they look normal
to me. :confused:

The bounce is the only reason I bought the beach balls. I didn't really think about buying them until I put the one I got in the quest in my room and it started bouncing, but I then knew I needed one in every color. :jumping3: :bounce: :Pinkbounc
Only have one of each color so far, due to my lack of bird-identifying skills, but hope they stick around long enough for me to get more.

SharkMeal
06-17-2008, 05:21 PM
No space and when I tried to get it fixed, all my friends that I managed to find through aimless wandering were deleted and I received a new guest number. Oh yeah, loving it. :badpc:

Thanks for the suggestion though, SharkMeal. I DO appreciate it.

That stinks. :| Sorry about that. But maybe the new guest number
will actually get approved? I dunno. They should worry about this
before releasing that ice cream quest.

VMK_Mouse
06-17-2008, 07:36 PM
I heard that if your name has a space in it, then the title won't be accepted
and you will still be a guest. Just call VFK or use contact us to fix the problem,
other people have done this and they got their title immediately.

Just for anyone who is still a guest and registered with a space in their name.



You were misinformed. :) I have a friend on my friend list who is space_gas.


http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg28/Dizney4Life/spacegas.jpg


That was meant as a joke. :) Not to be taken seriously.

SkippyPaul
06-17-2008, 07:48 PM
Why I am disappointed in VFK:

1. They gave me hope for a world where I made and hung with so many wonderful friends, and have not delivered.

2. They have released LOTS of cool items, with the only way to earn them being a memory test. If you have a bad memory, or don't stay signed on forever, there is no way to make decent credits to buy anything.

3. A game would be fun, a memory test is not.

4. Friends can't find each other. What's the point?

5. Exits are IMPOSSIBLE to navigate due to issues they need to fix.

6. People are invisible due to issues they need to fix.

7. People STILL don't have titles.

8. Instead of providing us with a map that would make SOOO many things easier, they are busy creating quests that are maddening to complete because of 4-6.

9. We have chairs we can't sit in. Crates we can't stack. Lights we can't turn on. Am I the only 1 that just doesn't get the order of priorities?

I am so saddened by all of this. I had so much hope for VFK and am watching our circle of friends divide between other (or no) games. Also, those with a memory are acquiring mass wealth, while those with no memory are not. And yet, there is NO WAY for friends to share with each other.

And I soooo hope it's not true, but I have heard many reports of favorites, already, on behalf of the programmers. Again, I have heard this only through others so I am just hoping it's not true. It took me 2.5 hours to complete the quest the other night. Just because I have not picked up a phone to complain does not mean I am having a good game-playing experience, not in VFK at least. And I had soooo hoped it would be home.

Sigh,
Dreams

I have to say I agree with you. Sadly when vmk was closing, close friends looked to vfk as their only way to contact each other. Maybe friendships have been lost Im sure.
I dont know who sets their priorities but its very sad. Many ppl dont have their names, the friends list dont work, ( I know mine sure dont) you cant exit rooms...on and on and on the list goes. I know its beta but fix things in order of importance. Its more frustrating this way. And Im sure its a last effort to keep ppl at the site by including quests but its only added to the frustration.
And yes I know, if I dont like it dont go there. Well for the most part once every 2 weeks for a few minutes is my limit before my ADD kicks in.
Idk about the favortism in the game. Ive heard rumors but Im never there to see if its true. Sweet and I are in small worlds alot and I can tell you this, the staff visit all and any rooms. Their a great bunch of ppl.

Oh well just my 2 cents.

awesomepatty-cake
06-17-2008, 09:26 PM
Hmm I'm confused you are blaming VFK for losing your friends?

SkippyPaul
06-17-2008, 11:20 PM
Hmm I'm confused you are blaming VFK for losing your friends?

ME?
No Im not blaming vfk for anything. Im simply stating that friends made plans to meet each other on vfk and the game is like mass confusion with the names not being approved. Alot cant even find each other. As a result ppl have left the game out of frustration. Lost friendships.

Sugar
06-18-2008, 12:47 AM
ME?
No Im not blaming vfk for anything. Im simply stating that friends made plans to meet each other on vfk and the game is like mass confusion with the names not being approved. Alot cant even find each other. As a result ppl have left the game out of frustration. Lost friendships.

If VFK developers had put in a bit more effort before letting people play... if only there was more Alpha before the Beta, this wouldn't be happening.

Some "solid business plan."

bevgray
06-18-2008, 07:18 AM
I registered for VFK in the first Beta group. I signed on the first day. After trying out some other "Beta" games (including VMK), there is no excuse for the kinds of bugs and lack of planning they have shown thus far. I think they mean well but I suspect their programmers are more experienced with business applications than in gaming environments. While a code is a code is a code, there really are differences in the complexity demanded to make a decent gaming environment. I also feel that this complete disregard of their intended historical theme shows additional lack of planning. I have no problem with "summer fun" items, but how much cooler it would have been if they had stuck with their original historical perspective. How about "summer fun" circa 1890 to go with their Victorian rooms?

The lack of debugging issues that have been in the game since day 1 shows a singular unprofessional approach. So far, it doesn't resemble VMK so much as a very watered down version of most other SIM worlds.

Perhaps, in time, they'll get through their pre-alpha growing pains and move on into true alpha and beta testing. For me, I'll stick with those other beta games that at least deliver on their stated goals. I'll miss all of you from VMK. Hope everyone finds a new "virtual world" that will mean as much to you as our lost one did.

I know many of us are playing two or three games (each game supplying one or two aspects that VMK provided). Hope to see you'all in some of the other realms.

Mnementh
06-18-2008, 10:55 AM
Sorry, I'm not trying to be negative here but ... the items all look so weird in the enviroment of this game. Almost like someone just super-imposed images onto a back ground in photoshop. It's like they have the dimension and perspective all wrong :confused:

I never noticed until you said something, but you're right. They do look kind of odd. Even the items that aren't moving don't seem to "meet the floor" just right.

Gsterg
06-18-2008, 11:36 AM
ya know i really wish ppl would stop bashing VFK just bc there are bugs! And here is just a heads up... THIS IS BETA! THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BUGS AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HELP THE STAFF AND PROGRAMERS FIND THEM! in my opinion they are trying VERY hard right now. they are balancing 2 things... 1) giving us new features to play with and 2) smashing those bugs WHILE they continue to give us new features... so plz ppl give them a break. They JUST opened RIGHT after VMK closed so that all of us would have some place to go to meet all our frineds from VMK

lisuhut
06-18-2008, 12:02 PM
Hi
Well said ,this what i have been trying to make people see all week.
The game is in test mode and we are supposed to be the testers, not the moaners.
Of course it is not like the old game yet , but they are trying hard to make it into a good family game.
I have seen more staff in this game then i ever saw in vmk.
Also some people have pointed out that they do not reply to E-mails.
Now let me think what was the game that had the contact us system named The Black Hole? Why it was vmk !!
Come on people play and help them , or just do not play.
I do not understand why people play a game they do not like, there are plenty to choose from.
Support them together, do not trash them.

SharkMeal
06-18-2008, 12:12 PM
Yeah, VFK has a lot of bugs but what I think a lot of people are complaining
about is the lack of communication going on.. But VMK never had good
communication either so..

jasonpwns
06-18-2008, 01:35 PM
Well about the guest thing,

unless they set up a system to auto approve names, some staff member has to go through say 45,000 names that may still be guest and manually approve them?

Just a thought they are prob working hard to fix it but idk.

Gsterg
06-18-2008, 02:33 PM
the ppl with the titles that havent been approved either had spaces or have problems with them... i think once the public release opens or whatever you will get a chance to change your password and name in the game...

cyre
06-18-2008, 02:42 PM
it's not just about the bugs, dude...it's the fact this game is going further away from what they billed themselves as, and it's the lack of communication with the developers to the staff...

Dream Flower
06-18-2008, 02:57 PM
This has lots of info and helps explain/clarify some things. Taken from the home page:


A Note From The Developers
June 18th, 2008

This is a special thank you to all of our beta testers who so graciously participated in our first two Quests. These were a major milestone in our development process and the information we gained from the Quests has been fantastic.

The Quests bring together many of the technologies and make testing them under load a reality. We thought we would share with you some of the more exciting results from our two Quests.

One of the most important tests we were able to perform with the Quest was the use of the trading engine. The award of the prizes used the trading engine and with literally 10's of thousands of trades, many of which were simultaneous, there was not a single error. Thank you all so much for making this test possible.

We also want to thank you for doing these Quests without the benefit of a map. However, we needed to do these Quests before we added the map to complete the tests. In particular we were able to test multiple simultaneous teleports from a room, multiple simultaneous teleports into a room, massive simultaneous click requests to move in a room to a location or to select an object, and large chat loads in a room. From this data we were able to reduce the memory requirements on the servers by over 7 times.

We were also able to test what happens when 100's of thousands of items are placed in rooms, moved around and then removed from the room and placed back in inventory, almost simultaneously. After analyzing the databases we are pleased to report that not a single item was lost. We did have 15 items which were placed in rooms we would have never imagined possible. One was a "pink couch" in an Audubon Wildlife Adventure room. We changed the code to prevent this from happening again and put the couch back in the person's inventory :-)

Last week we re-factored our primary 3d engine which made it faster, more accurate and more stable. These Quests also allowed us to test these new developments, and again, everything went perfectly.

There were a great many more metrics which we collected, most of which are very mundane and boring, but because of this data we have spent the last two days making enhancements based on the information gathered from the Quests.

We hope the great prizes our graphics team created especially for these Quests show how much we appreciate your help during these beta tests and our heart felt thanks.

So, in the future, when anyone uses a teleporter, makes a trade, places something in their room, or even just goes from room to room, you can tell them that you were part of the Beta Quests which made this all possible.

We have a fun Quest planned for this weekend which should allow us to complete the cycle of development. The great news is that this means we will finally have a map and your hard work of trudging through the kingdom will have paid off! However, we will miss seeing the garden so full of people everyday about to go out into the kingdom.

Again, thank you all so much for your help in making this new world a reality, and thank you for your help in our Quests.

Your Development Team
Virtual Family Kingdom

PS. As an interesting side note, the bug which makes it possible to have different size characters after changing clothes or hair is the result of a single line of code. However, it seems that everyone is enjoying this, so we will leave it a bit longer. If you haven't experienced this bug, make sure you do before it is removed.

PPS. We also thought we should share with everyone a bug in the Audubon Wildlife Adventure game. The bug is that the last option in the multiple choices is never correct. So, on the second level, it is always the first choice. It may not seem like a lot of credits each game, but if you just play it consistently for an hour you will discover you have over 3,000 credits. This is because the game restarts quickly and because of the bug you can almost always make over 50 credits per game. The worst case is that you will end up knowing a lot more about our natural wildlife, not to mention being able to impress your friends with your knowledge of birds! :-)

jasonpwns
06-18-2008, 03:04 PM
Umm by pink couch do they mean the pink couch beach ball or the pink couch rock?

I am confused

funfly
06-18-2008, 05:25 PM
Hi
Well said ,this what i have been trying to make people see all week.
The game is in test mode and we are supposed to be the testers, not the moaners.
Of course it is not like the old game yet , but they are trying hard to make it into a good family game.
I have seen more staff in this game then i ever saw in vmk.
Also some people have pointed out that they do not reply to E-mails.
Now let me think what was the game that had the contact us system named The Black Hole? Why it was vmk !!
Come on people play and help them , or just do not play.
I do not understand why people play a game they do not like, there are plenty to choose from.
Support them together, do not trash them.

I can say I wrote to VMK contact us, got canned response, and when I responded to that I got nothing...VMK black hole.

I wrote to VFK contact us, got a personal email, with a phone number. Called the phone number, spoke with real live person (omg!) and got results :cool1: . Then sent another email to them thanking them and adding a suggestion, and received another personal email. Another friend sent an email and recieved a response back with correction made in game immediately. That's one up in my book! :thumbsup2

aengus
06-18-2008, 05:40 PM
I'm sorry but did I just read that players enjoy a bug so much that even tho they have identified it, they aren't going to fix it yet?

Well I guess thats good news because the game comes out of test mode in 7 days.

GoofyWaterCoaster
06-18-2008, 05:53 PM
I'm sorry but did I just read that players enjoy a bug so much that even tho they have identified it, they aren't going to fix it yet?

Well I guess thats good news because the game comes out of test mode in 7 days.

They will never be ready :sad2:

AdventurersClub
06-18-2008, 06:03 PM
Instead of celebrating their "bugs" they should be fixing them. I can't speak for everyone, but my defination of a bug means an unplanned flaw in the game that needs attending to. I really hope they get their act together, the sands of time are against them, as they officially open in a week.

Mnementh
06-18-2008, 06:32 PM
I'm sorry but did I just read that players enjoy a bug so much that even tho they have identified it, they aren't going to fix it yet?

Look at it this way... this is one of those "fun" bugs that isn't really doing any harm to the game as a whole. I seem to remember a lot of people wishing VMK wouldn't have fixed some of the bugs that that game had.

SharkMeal
06-18-2008, 06:34 PM
The size bug isn't going to do any damage to the game.. it's just a little
humor out of being giant or small there's no big deal in not fixing it right away.
Have to admit I do get entertainment out of that bug sometimes.

But if it was a bug in which you lose your items or something and they leave
it like that it would be a totally different situation.

However I am having doubts that they will be ready by June 26th of THIS year
lol. Where's Merlin's shop? Rooms list? Wasn't the rooms list supposed to be
added on like the first day? They haven't mentioned anything about it anymore
have they completely dropped the idea? :confused:

SkippyPaul
06-18-2008, 06:55 PM
ya know i really wish ppl would stop bashing VFK just bc there are bugs! And here is just a heads up... THIS IS BETA! THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BUGS AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HELP THE STAFF AND PROGRAMERS FIND THEM! in my opinion they are trying VERY hard right now. they are balancing 2 things... 1) giving us new features to play with and 2) smashing those bugs WHILE they continue to give us new features... so plz ppl give them a break. They JUST opened RIGHT after VMK closed so that all of us would have some place to go to meet all our frineds from VMK

I dont think what ppl are doing here could be considered bashing vfk. Its just discussing the facts as has been done here on the board since long before I came along. We all realize this is beta and staff and programmers are scrambling to get ready for the unveiling, and fix known bugs and issues. But most of us are also involved in beta stage of several other games. Its compairing apples and oranges. Every game has its issues, beta or not, just as did vmk. And even as much issues as vmk had, we would all welcome it back in a heart beat and all probably run with our pants flaming from these other games.

Nothing against the vfk folks whatsoever.

aengus
06-18-2008, 06:58 PM
Look at it this way... this is one of those "fun" bugs that isn't really doing any harm to the game as a whole. I seem to remember a lot of people wishing VMK wouldn't have fixed some of the bugs that that game had.

The size bug isn't going to do any damage to the game.. it's just a little
humor out of being giant or small there's no big deal in not fixing it right away.
:confused:


How do you know you have the fix if you dont test it? How do you know the fix doesnt break something else?

Mnementh
06-18-2008, 07:50 PM
Are you sure they haven't tested it? If they know where the problem is, maybe they tested their fix overnight last night while the game was closed and are sure it works.

Goofy05
06-18-2008, 08:03 PM
Hi
Well said ,this what i have been trying to make people see all week.
The game is in test mode and we are supposed to be the testers, not the moaners.
Of course it is not like the old game yet , but they are trying hard to make it into a good family game.
I have seen more staff in this game then i ever saw in vmk.
Also some people have pointed out that they do not reply to E-mails.
Now let me think what was the game that had the contact us system named The Black Hole? Why it was vmk !!
Come on people play and help them , or just do not play.
I do not understand why people play a game they do not like, there are plenty to choose from.
Support them together, do not trash them.
You are comparing vfk to vmk and it simply can't be done. They will never be vmk.
I can't offer my support to a game that does little to correct known issues, yet releases ONE new game and furnishings that just do nothing but sit in inventory and have no relevance to the theme of the game.

Well about the guest thing,

unless they set up a system to auto approve names, some staff member has to go through say 45,000 names that may still be guest and manually approve them?

Just a thought they are prob working hard to fix it but idk.
All assumption. We don't know how many names need approval or who is responsible for approving them.
the ppl with the titles that havent been approved either had spaces or have problems with them... i think once the public release opens or whatever you will get a chance to change your password and name in the game...
Again, assumption. We don't know why some names have been approved, some not. I registered two names. One approved, the other can't even log in. Separate emails, yet it tells me the name that I reserved on Day 1 is already in use.
it's not just about the bugs, dude...it's the fact this game is going further away from what they billed themselves as, and it's the lack of communication with the developers to the staff...
Yes. Nobody knows where this game is going. Not even the staff.
I can say I wrote to VMK contact us, got canned response, and when I responded to that I got nothing...VMK black hole.

I wrote to VFK contact us, got a personal email, with a phone number. Called the phone number, spoke with real live person (omg!) and got results :cool1: . Then sent another email to them thanking them and adding a suggestion, and received another personal email. Another friend sent an email and recieved a response back with correction made in game immediately. That's one up in my book! :thumbsup2
You're one of the few who did get a response from vfk, I have not.
Comparing vfk to vmk is a moot point. They are totally different games. I will say that vmk's messaging was lacking, but it has no bearing on vfk.
I'm sorry but did I just read that players enjoy a bug so much that even tho they have identified it, they aren't going to fix it yet?

Well I guess thats good news because the game comes out of test mode in 7 days.
Maybe the programmer likes paging through millions of codes so much, he/she wants to do it all again to find that one line! Gosh!
Instead of celebrating their "bugs" they should be fixing them. I can't speak for everyone, but my defination of a bug means an unplanned flaw in the game that needs attending to. I really hope they get their act together, the sands of time are against them, as they officially open in a week.
But the size bug is cool! (sarcasm) Don't you enjoy being miniature and having to take three times as long as everyone else to cross a room?
Look at it this way... this is one of those "fun" bugs that isn't really doing any harm to the game as a whole. I seem to remember a lot of people wishing VMK wouldn't have fixed some of the bugs that that game had.
The size bug isn't going to do any damage to the game.. it's just a little
humor out of being giant or small there's no big deal in not fixing it right away.
Have to admit I do get entertainment out of that bug sometimes.

But if it was a bug in which you lose your items or something and they leave
it like that it would be a totally different situation.

However I am having doubts that they will be ready by June 26th of THIS year
lol. Where's Merlin's shop? Rooms list? Wasn't the rooms list supposed to be
added on like the first day? They haven't mentioned anything about it anymore
have they completely dropped the idea? :confused:
See above. Any bug is a problem with the program, regardless of how "fun" it is.
So many issues going unaddressed and unresolved. It's obvious to me, they had no definite "plan" for where they wanted this game to go. They are winging it and that will hurt them. You have to have a storyboard and a plan for a community to work.
I'm looking forward to reading what the gamers' sites reviews of vfk will say!
How do you know you have the fix if you dont test it? How do you know the fix doesnt break something else?

Maybe they should have hired you to test it? haha We all know you broke it.

funfly
06-18-2008, 08:12 PM
Look at it this way... this is one of those "fun" bugs that isn't really doing any harm to the game as a whole. I seem to remember a lot of people wishing VMK wouldn't have fixed some of the bugs that that game had.

:thumbsup2 Yep, there were bugs we all had fun with in VMK and hated to see them go.

awesomepatty-cake
06-18-2008, 09:55 PM
I used to really liked to come to the Dis boards to see what was new, funny things that happened on that day, maybe some help on quests that I had a problem with in VMK. I would skip over most of the people complaining about the quests etc. The fact that VFK has only one place to look it’s not easy to find the funny stuff or new things without having to wade through lots of negative posts questioning everything that is being done or not being done. I keep thinking maybe it has changed but I see it has not. I have not seen posts that scrutinize any other game so much. When I am on VFK I have seen many players saying how much they enjoy being small. They have been asking hosts for weeks for a game so they can start earning credits. They have been asking for furniture for a while. These may be all kids I don’t know for sure but they just want to play and chat on VFK. They don’t care how the whole system is set up or if they have gotten rid of all the bugs. As an adult I could wait for them to straighten everything out first before they put a game in or furniture but most kids do not have the patience for all the waiting for them to fix everything that people have mentioned. My biggest problem is that kids read these boards and for some reason take some peoples opinion as fact. I was getting upset with some of the things that Aengus was saying and posted something, one of the responses I got was “I think as a moderator he does have to play the role of devil's advocate ... maybe more than he'd like to.” This can be found on page 151. This response upset me because this person thinks that for some reason that Aengus who is only the board moderator has to tell us whether a game is good or not. I’m sorry I had to choose Aengus for my example I have nothing against him. I know he is only putting up his personal opinions but I’ve heard kids telling me other things that were said on the board as if it was truth not just an opinion or rumor. I not only miss VMK but I miss the Dis boards that used to make me laugh.

AdventurersClub
06-18-2008, 10:06 PM
I used to really liked to come to the Dis boards to see what was new, funny things that happened on that day, maybe some help on quests that I had a problem with in VMK. I would skip over most of the people complaining about the quests etc. The fact that VFK has only one place to look it’s not easy to find the funny stuff or new things without having to wade through lots of negative posts questioning everything that is being done or not being done. I keep thinking maybe it has changed but I see it has not. I have not seen posts that scrutinize any other game so much. When I am on VFK I have seen many players saying how much they enjoy being small. They have been asking hosts for weeks for a game so they can start earning credits. They have been asking for furniture for a while. These may be all kids I don’t know for sure but they just want to play and chat on VFK. They don’t care how the whole system is set up or if they have gotten rid of all the bugs. As an adult I could wait for them to straighten everything out first before they put a game in or furniture but most kids do not have the patience for all the waiting for them to fix everything that people have mentioned. My biggest problem is that kids read these boards and for some reason take some peoples opinion as fact. I was getting upset with some of the things that Aengus was saying and posted something, one of the responses I got was “I think as a moderator he does have to play the role of devil's advocate ... maybe more than he'd like to.” This can be found on page 151. This response upset me because this person thinks that for some reason that Aengus who is only the board moderator has to tell us whether a game is good or not. I’m sorry I had to choose Aengus for my example I have nothing against him. I know he is only putting up his personal opinions but I’ve heard kids telling me other things that were said on the board as if it was truth not just an opinion or rumor. I not only miss VMK but I miss the Dis boards that used to make me laugh.

Lets not wear rose colored glasses, not everything in life will be perfect nor will everything in this game. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and most "negative" opinions are just and deserved. VFK says one thing, but never follows through, if it bothers someone and they feel strongly enough about it to vent a bit, they are fully entitled to do so. Being we are only permitted one thread, all posts are to be in this thread, we have to work with what we have.

From my stand point, the "negative" comments can be quite helpful to vfk developers, they will never learn how to run their game if they don't have legitimate useful feedback. The mind set and attitude that everything in VFK is perfect, was a reason I avoided this thread, because I like to read unbiased opinions on both sides. Kids may read this thread, but that is no reason to shelter opinions and give false impressions. We do a disservice to VFK if we do not give them accurate feedback. That is the only way they will know how to improve.

As for their excuses for why things don't get done that they promised, the only response I have to that, is my favorite expression:

"Excuses are reasons people don't do stuff."

Goofy05
06-18-2008, 10:16 PM
I used to really liked to come to the Dis boards to see what was new, funny things that happened on that day, maybe some help on quests that I had a problem with in VMK. I would skip over most of the people complaining about the quests etc. The fact that VFK has only one place to look it’s not easy to find the funny stuff or new things without having to wade through lots of negative posts questioning everything that is being done or not being done. I keep thinking maybe it has changed but I see it has not. I have not seen posts that scrutinize any other game so much. When I am on VFK I have seen many players saying how much they enjoy being small. They have been asking hosts for weeks for a game so they can start earning credits. They have been asking for furniture for a while. These may be all kids I don’t know for sure but they just want to play and chat on VFK. They don’t care how the whole system is set up or if they have gotten rid of all the bugs. As an adult I could wait for them to straighten everything out first before they put a game in or furniture but most kids do not have the patience for all the waiting for them to fix everything that people have mentioned. My biggest problem is that kids read these boards and for some reason take some peoples opinion as fact. I was getting upset with some of the things that Aengus was saying and posted something, one of the responses I got was “I think as a moderator he does have to play the role of devil's advocate ... maybe more than he'd like to.” This can be found on page 151. This response upset me because this person thinks that for some reason that Aengus who is only the board moderator has to tell us whether a game is good or not. I’m sorry I had to choose Aengus for my example I have nothing against him. I know he is only putting up his personal opinions but I’ve heard kids telling me other things that were said on the board as if it was truth not just an opinion or rumor. I not only miss VMK but I miss the Dis boards that used to make me laugh.

I'm sorry you think we are any more critical of vfk than we were of vmk, as I think there are plenty of arguments that came out of those discussions, as well.
Why are we so critical of vfk? Please do read the posts, even the negative ones. The answers are there.
If all positive is what you seek, there are vfk forums where negative comments never seem to appear.
Most of us who talk about the bad parts of vfk are only warning people not to get overly excited about vfk being the next best vmk. It's just not going to happen.
Safety is still our number one concern. There are still issues with the safety of personal information being kept safe on vfk. Some have been addressed, mainly due to those of us 'negative' posters.
As for Aengus playing "devil's advocate", it is not a requirement of being a moderator, he shares the same concerns the rest of us do. Aengus has always been looking out for the dis kids and will continue to do so.

Gsterg
06-18-2008, 10:39 PM
I can agree that some negative comments are good, but some of your comments (greeniemimi) have been more than negative comments. I have nothing against you but all i am saying is you donr have to bash gfk everytime thre is something that you don't like. And one last thing. VMK was loved by all. When it closed vfk opened a door for all of us. With about 90% of vmk joining vfk, most ppl thought vfk would be the same as vmk. Well its not BUT this game has potential so if you guys can wait a while and not keep being negative then maybe just maybe you will see...

~Gsterg

AdventurersClub
06-18-2008, 10:45 PM
I can agree that some negative comments are good, but some of your comments (greeniemimi) have been more than negative comments. I have nothing against you but all i am saying is you donr have to bash gfk everytime thre is something that you don't like. And one last thing. VMK was loved by all. When it closed vfk opened a door for all of us. With about 90% of vmk joining vfk, most ppl thought vfk would be the same as vmk. Well its not BUT this game has potential so if you guys can wait a while and not keep being negative then maybe just maybe you will see...

~Gsterg

Lets not confuse a negative observation with bashing, those are totally different things. Negative observation is a fact, bashing is an opinion. Some of the observations green said were indeed true, she may have added some of her own thoughts to her observations, but they were indeed facts. I however doubt it was that high a percentage that joined VFK, I know many people who didn't sign up, and still have no plans to do so. If we do not state the negative, VFK will open with glitches when they can easily take this time to improve. Why would we want VFK to ignore observations, both good and bad, when they can take this time to observe and fix their problems in a timely manner which may end up preventing a future problem. Nothing is perfect, but it doesn't mean VFK shouldn't try to perfect what CAN be perfected.

SkippyPaul
06-19-2008, 01:05 AM
I would like to tell you something that happened tonite. Sweet and I went in to vfk, which we rarely do. We were in the backyard for maybe 5 or 6 min when racist comments started flying. I knew they were aimed at me like they always were on vmk. Ppl in the room reported this incident and within a few minutes vfk_groovy was there. I was seeing red at this point and thought it best if I leave the game. Which Sweet and I immediately did.

Besides Sweet, to very nice dis friends kingquackatac, and Keepswimmingdory also reported these 2 girls that were being racist, then pm'd me here on dis to show support.

I wont go in to more detail but King spoke to vfk via phone and the girls were dealt with immediately.

Im not passing this story along to you for any sympathy believe me. Just wanted to let you know that Im going to try and be a little more understanding of staff and programmers at vfk. Not only do they have to fix bugs but they have to play baby sitter, police officer and nurse maid to a bunch of midget pixels.

Thanks guys.... you know who you are
:)
Robert

JulyGirl
06-19-2008, 06:14 AM
I would like to tell you something that happened tonite. Sweet and I went in to vfk, which we rarely do. We were in the backyard for maybe 5 or 6 min when racist comments started flying. I knew they were aimed at me like they always were on vmk. Ppl in the room reported this incident and within a few minutes vfk_groovy was there. I was seeing red at this point and thought it best if I leave the game. Which Sweet and I immediately did.

Besides Sweet, to very nice dis friends kingquackatac, and Keepswimmingdory also reported these 2 girls that were being racist, then pm'd me here on dis to show support.

I wont go in to more detail but King spoke to vfk via phone and the girls were dealt with immediately.

Im not passing this story along to you for any sympathy believe me. Just wanted to let you know that Im going to try and be a little more understanding of staff and programmers at vfk. Not only do they have to fix bugs but they have to play baby sitter, police officer and nurse maid to a bunch of midget pixels.

Thanks guys.... you know who you are
:)
Robert


I am glad to hear that they are making an effort to keep negative players under control. That was really my first concern when the place opened up.

aengus
06-19-2008, 06:39 AM
I keep thinking maybe it has changed but I see it has not. I have not seen posts that scrutinize any other game so much. When I am on VFK I have seen many players saying how much they enjoy being small. They have been asking hosts for weeks for a game so they can start earning credits.

If you think we are tough critics wait until June 26th when the game magazine critics take a look at the game.


You can't possibly think I am the only one that doesnt think the game is very good and my wonderful personality is converting people to agree with me.

Gsterg
06-19-2008, 08:55 AM
The reason i think most of us are bringing problems, bashes, and - comments is bc all of us are so used to VMK's perfect game play, graphics and the rest... im sorry about my comment before yours AdventureClub.


~Gsterg

aengus
06-19-2008, 09:23 AM
Constructive.

Heres some things I think VFK should do:

forget about vmk, I know a few people posted they want them to re-create vmk but the truth is they cant. They cant have mickey ears, space mountain or pirates of the caribbean. Get back to your history theme and drive your humvee as far away from vmk as you can. As long as you mimic vmk you will be compared to vmk and thats just not going to work. The release of a fireworks game on July 4th is going to inflame many people beyond the current levels. We put VMK on a pedestal, its a bad choice to want to be compared to around these parts, you cant win that war.

back off your opening date of the 26th. Post on the front page something honest. Wow this game has been fun to create but we are a bit behind and we wont make the opening date we had originally planned. If they open to the public then they are saying this is a finished product and the criticism will only increase. Sure the game can continue to evolve after being open, but you are declaring a certain expectation of a working product after beta ends.

Stop adding, you have to make what you have work.

Remove the contents of your web page according to date, dont leave the first couple of posts pre beta and just after beta and then the present. It's misleading and makes people feel like your hiding something.

Fix your webpage, its the first thing people see, you should make a better impression. If anyone has any trouble figuring out what I mean, try clicking submit without putting any info in on the waiting list section. Get into COPPA compliance, its hard to believe a family game isn't meeting a federal requirement to protect children.


I am no game developer, these are some of the things I have just observed by watching and reading. Maybe my advice is silly who knows :rotfl: I just know they are actions I would personally be impressed by.

HeDiedxILive
06-19-2008, 12:30 PM
:thumbsup2 Yep, there were bugs we all had fun with in VMK and hated to see them go.

I seem to recall certain clothing bugs we all would have loved to keep. The Pirates costume option when creating a character, the HKDL baseball shirt was it?




And is it just me, or have we been spending more time arguing about arguing than we have spent actually discussing the game? :bitelip:

I can totally see both sides of all of this, so I'll just sit back and watch this discussion while hoping for the best for the players, children and adults alike... whether that turns out to be VFK or not. popcorn::

Bugdozer
06-20-2008, 09:12 AM
VFK I Scream for Ice Cream Quest

June 20th (Friday), 7:00 AM Pacific Time, to June 21st (Saturday), 10:00 PM Pacific Time

With all this hot summer weather we need something to beat the summer heat and what is better then Ice Cream!!
This Friday and Saturday play our "I Scream for Ice Cream" quest and learn all the chilling history about Ice Cream, and maybe a little about popsicles too!
Get ready for some cool summer fun and prizes this weekend! Be there or be square.
Once you complete the quest, you will receive 1,000 credits to help you buy new rooms that are coming soon, a red and white ice cream cart, and your choice of either chocolate or strawberry ice cream parfait!
http://www.virtualfamilykingdom.com/Icecream_Quest_Items.jpg

Disneychick74
06-20-2008, 10:04 AM
If you think we are tough critics wait until June 26th when the game magazine critics take a look at the game.


You can't possibly think I am the only one that doesnt think the game is very good and my wonderful personality is converting people to agree with me.

You know A, You and I never saw eye to eye since the very mention of VFK lol
I have to say I a m a current convert lol

My reasoning is this..I really really thought this game had some potential.
I still do but not under the current developers. This is NOT a beta test, it is an Alpha test. They are not fixing the issues in the game, yet continue to add new features. If they release this game on June 26th as it is, it will be a complete failure.
There is ONE game open right now and only a select handful are good enough to get a decent score, so while those people are already VFK millionaires, the rest of us are dirt poor. They started quests already!!! with no world map I think it took me over an hour to complete a 10 minute quest.
For those who say we cant compare VFK to VMK...HOW on earth do you suppose we do that???? It was MADE to mimic VMK, I think the original plan was to take all the good from VMK and make a new game, learning from their mistakes...well they are failing miserably.
I agree with Aaengus, they need to make a public statement saying that they are way behind and are going to extend the beta program a bit longer.
They need to stop adding and fix what isnt working. And untl they come up with a wider variety of games so every one has an even chance at earning credits, they should close the bird game, it never works for me anyway too many bugs.

Bee2u
06-20-2008, 10:32 AM
VFK I Scream for Ice Cream Quest

June 20th (Friday), 7:00 AM Pacific Time, to June 21st (Saturday), 10:00 PM Pacific Time

With all this hot summer weather we need something to beat the summer heat and what is better then Ice Cream!!
This Friday and Saturday play our "I Scream for Ice Cream" quest and learn all the chilling history about Ice Cream, and maybe a little about popsicles too!
Get ready for some cool summer fun and prizes this weekend! Be there or be square.
Once you complete the quest, you will receive 1,000 credits to help you buy new rooms that are coming soon, a red and white ice cream cart, and your choice of either chocolate or strawberry ice cream parfait!
http://www.virtualfamilykingdom.com/Icecream_Quest_Items.jpg

I can't choose between strawberry and choclate in real life, how do they expect me to choose virtually? lol :confused3 Deciding which I want will probably take me longer than completing the quest. :rotfl:

aengus
06-20-2008, 10:46 AM
You know A, You and I never saw eye to eye since the very mention of VFK lol
I have to say I a m a current convert lol

My reasoning is this..I really really thought this game had some potential.
I still do but not under the current developers. This is NOT a beta test, it is an Alpha test. They are not fixing the issues in the game, yet continue to add new features. If they release this game on June 26th as it is, it will be a complete failure.
There is ONE game open right now and only a select handful are good enough to get a decent score, so while those people are already VFK millionaires, the rest of us are dirt poor. They started quests already!!! with no world map I think it took me over an hour to complete a 10 minute quest.
For those who say we cant compare VFK to VMK...HOW on earth do you suppose we do that???? It was MADE to mimic VMK, I think the original plan was to take all the good from VMK and make a new game, learning from their mistakes...well they are failing miserably.
I agree with Aaengus, they need to make a public statement saying that they are way behind and are going to extend the beta program a bit longer.
They need to stop adding and fix what isnt working. And untl they come up with a wider variety of games so every one has an even chance at earning credits, they should close the bird game, it never works for me anyway too many bugs.

OMG, it was my wonderful personality :rotfl:

Actually I went shopping around to several other forums the past couple of days to see if we (self included) were being to critical.

The forums that are dedicated to VFK, or have a very large community investment into VFK are HUG FEST 2008

The forums that VFK is not a major focus on (like the DIS) are more critical

I think the love/hate VFK is less about the game and more about the fear a community/sites are about to crumble.

I will compliment the graphics on the ice scream stuff, I have not liked their graphics at all to date. These are really really nice. I haven't changed my mind. They should be fixing things, not questing or adding, but felt a compliment on the graphics was in order.

You can only play the shell game with your audience for so long, but I guess a whole new chapter will unfold in 6 days.

Bee2u
06-20-2008, 01:14 PM
Well, I decided on the chocolate, but ya'll are going to have to help me eat it - it's as big as I am!
http://gallery.vmkforums.com/data/1057/icecream.jpg

MPhins13
06-20-2008, 01:25 PM
Well, I decided on the chocolate, but ya'll are going to have to help me eat it - it's as big as I am!
http://gallery.vmkforums.com/data/1057/icecream.jpg

:rotfl: That Ice cream is Huge! Massive stomach ache

Did you find it easier to do this quest? Is it easier to move around or is there still not a map?

lizbeth374
06-20-2008, 03:11 PM
trying to do the quest but i cant talk in game....plus i am all alone....did i miss something...i havent been on in about a week:confused3

SharkMeal
06-20-2008, 04:56 PM
:rotfl: That Ice cream is Huge! Massive stomach ache

Did you find it easier to do this quest? Is it easier to move around or is there still not a map?

And brain-freeze! :eek:

There is still no map but staff said map should come very soon after this quest,
along with the trade option. Staff also said that the room list should
come out today, but the Australian Outback land (that was due for release
June 20th) is being delayed. :(

OctoPie
06-20-2008, 05:09 PM
:rotfl: That Ice cream is Huge! Massive stomach ache

Did you find it easier to do this quest? Is it easier to move around or is there still not a map?


oh don't say that octo isn't feeling well i jsut threw up

Cardinal
06-20-2008, 05:10 PM
Well, I decided on the chocolate, but ya'll are going to have to help me eat it - it's as big as I am!
http://gallery.vmkforums.com/data/1057/icecream.jpg

Oh my, that's a humongous pink couch! :rotfl:

Bee2u
06-20-2008, 05:21 PM
:rotfl: That Ice cream is Huge! Massive stomach ache

Did you find it easier to do this quest? Is it easier to move around or is there still not a map?
No map, and it has you returning to places you left a few tasks before that, so you're going back and forth. Wear your hiking boots!


Oh my, that's a humongous pink couch! :rotfl:

:rotfl2:

OctoPie
06-20-2008, 05:27 PM
Oh my, that's a humongous pink couch! :rotfl:

don't sit on it!

Bee2u
06-20-2008, 05:35 PM
don't sit on it!

Yeah, right, like we're able to sit. :laughing:

WWEDUDE
06-20-2008, 08:15 PM
I see on the top of the rooms list Fin has a room, imagine my glee. I go in, hoping to see fin buddy.. well I do, but also in there is cricket, VFK_Test and butterfly, I was hoping to say hi to fin, but I was booted. But I did read them saying they can't lock their rooms, and they are confused. (they were the only ones there)

*sigh*

JulyGirl
06-20-2008, 10:06 PM
Yeah, right, like we're able to sit. :laughing:

:rotfl2: - Dreams of actually sitting on the pink couch-

aengus
06-20-2008, 10:07 PM
Hey I was just curious, I never see anything about the whole WC_ thing

Is that not until its out of beta?

cyre
06-20-2008, 10:09 PM
-groans- i should have had lactaid before i ate all that ice cream!!

eta... i closed out my browser and now can't get back into vfk :( grrr

Lauralee
06-20-2008, 10:28 PM
I'm happy to announce that tonight, finally, I got my title...woot!

TY everybody who directed me to a person who could help!

(hugs)

Officially now, Lauralee

IliketheTitanic
06-20-2008, 10:32 PM
If anyone else wants another laugh,

I was in a room talking with some friends and then I said, "I think smallworlds is a little better then VFK" and "I think smallworlds is pretty fun" then I was exited back to my room and VFK_Tiger was there all she said was : "Hiya, Please dont talk about smallworlds!" and left. now why didnt she warn me in the public room with my friends and lots of others around? I mean it would have been a good way to show people not to talk about Smallworlds in VFK, but seems to me that it was just a "dont talk about another game in here or else, because we are losing players" thing. :rolleyes:

Disneychick74
06-20-2008, 11:19 PM
Hey I was just curious, I never see anything about the whole WC_ thing

Is that not until its out of beta?


There was a blurb on the home page a while back that said they were holding off on implementing the Welcoming commitee until further notice.

tofubeast
06-21-2008, 12:25 AM
Rooms are for sale now. There are 4 listed in the shop tab. Three are the same victorian room with different wallpaper and the other one looks like a ballroom or something. I have not bought one, so I am not sure if we can enter them yet.

souper
06-21-2008, 02:59 AM
I'm happy to announce that tonight, finally, I got my title...woot!

TY everybody who directed me to a person who could help!

(hugs)

Officially now, Lauralee

Congratulations Lauralee!

And thanks to everyone that stopped by my new room tonight. I had great time seeing so many old friends. Hope you had fun too!

wenyeva
06-21-2008, 06:15 AM
Rooms are for sale now. There are 4 listed in the shop tab. Three are the same victorian room with different wallpaper and the other one looks like a ballroom or something. I have not bought one, so I am not sure if we can enter them yet.


You can enter them and furnish them. I bought one of the new ones and it is now "Main Street Ice Cream Cafe" (you can't say parlor!)

It's also a good trick to get from anywhere in VFK to the Victorian area quickly. Just click on the house button, choose someone's Victorian (not Colonial) room, and go there... then exit right away, and you are on one of the Victorian streets. Saved me some time in the ice cream quest.

NedsTJ
06-21-2008, 07:03 AM
So I killed some yesterday morning and did the Ice Cream quest....At the end I didn't get my Ice Cream (which is ok, I need to cut back anyway), nor did I get the credits. I thought it would just take some time to appear...but this morning theres still nothing there. Anyone else experience this?

beejer
06-21-2008, 08:13 AM
Did u get the ice cream cart? If u did not get any prizes perhaps u did not complete quest bc it has you continue until u get a message that your account has been awarded prizes. If that is the case, u may still have that message under quest button. If u did complete it plz let a host know bc other ppl have been given their prizes after the other quests ended. GL


:tinker: :tinker: :tinker:

NedsTJ
06-21-2008, 08:44 AM
Did u get the ice cream cart? If u did not get any prizes perhaps u did not complete quest bc it has you continue until u get a message that your account has been awarded prizes. If that is the case, u may still have that message under quest button. If u did complete it plz let a host know bc other ppl have been given their prizes after the other quests ended. GL


:tinker: :tinker: :tinker:

Don't remember anything about an Ice Cream cart. I just followed the instructions as they were presented...I did check my messages...none...and the quest button currently says the quest is closed so I'll try again later today. If it is complete and there still isn't anything there, I'll just send them a note thru their contact us link...that should do the trick.

Edit: Items are now there. The quest button worked once the kingdom opened and I just had to proceed to the next step...not sure how I missed that yesterday though...

beejer
06-21-2008, 09:56 AM
So glad you did not have to try to collect prizes. I think it is very easy to think we are done with the quest and overlook the message to continue.


:tink: :tink: :tink:

souper
06-21-2008, 01:55 PM
Don't remember anything about an Ice Cream cart. I just followed the instructions as they were presented...I did check my messages...none...and the quest button currently says the quest is closed so I'll try again later today. If it is complete and there still isn't anything there, I'll just send them a note thru their contact us link...that should do the trick.

Edit: Items are now there. The quest button worked once the kingdom opened and I just had to proceed to the next step...not sure how I missed that yesterday though...

Glad to hear the items were eventually in your inventory. It was the first time I have heard of such a bug. If they were not in inventory, in addition to writing in with the details I would have suggested looking on the popular room list for a room owned by staff.

Bugdozer
06-21-2008, 07:34 PM
Largest Palm Tree In VFK!
June 21st, 2008

The first day of summer and the first day of our room list we found lots of great rooms and we discovered the largest palm tree in VFK to cool off under!

Our thanks to PrincessWendybird for the shade and this fabulous tree!


http://www.virtualfamilykingdom.com/WendyB_Largest_Palm_Tree.jpg

tofubeast
06-21-2008, 10:24 PM
Very nice! Thanks so much for sharing. Hope to see it in game!

awesomepatty-cake
06-21-2008, 10:53 PM
Great room very clever!

TinkPinkPoem
06-22-2008, 08:35 AM
Is the game going to open to the public as announced, on June 28th?


Did u get the ice cream cart? If u did not get any prizes perhaps u did not complete quest bc it has you continue until u get a message that your account has been awarded prizes. If that is the case, u may still have that message under quest button. If u did complete it plz let a host know bc other ppl have been given their prizes after the other quests ended. GL


:tinker: :tinker: :tinker:

What is the purpose of an ice cream cart in a history game?
:confused3

JulyGirl
06-22-2008, 08:58 AM
Is the game going to open to the public as announced, on June 28th?




What is the purpose of an ice cream cart in a history game?
:confused3

I guess it might look good next to that "historic" lava lamp.:laughing:

TinkPinkPoem
06-22-2008, 09:24 AM
I guess it might look good next to that "historic" lava lamp.:laughing:

Silly me I didn't think about that! :rotfl:

Thanks for the laugh :thumbsup2

SharkMeal
06-22-2008, 10:23 AM
Is the game going to open to the public as announced, on June 28th?




What is the purpose of an ice cream cart in a history game?
:confused3

It's still coming out on the date June 26, not 28th. If I were in charge I would
delay it about half a month to a month. But maybe if they fix all the bugs
and release Australian land, a few more mini games, trading, ignore button,
more rooms, etc in 4 days then I guess they're on a roll. :confused:

And by the way, it was a prize from a quest that taught you the
history of ice cream. And it's a family history game. It doesn't have to have
just historical items. VMK didn't have just Disney items.

TinkPinkPoem
06-22-2008, 11:27 AM
It's still coming out on the date June 26, not 28th. If I were in charge I would
delay it about half a month to a month. But maybe if they fix all the bugs
and release Australian land, a few more mini games, trading, ignore button,
more rooms, etc in 4 days then I guess they're on a roll. :confused:

And by the way, it was a prize from a quest that taught you the
history of ice cream. And it's a family history game. It doesn't have to have
just historical items. VMK didn't have just Disney items.

I think their goal of opening the game on June 26th may not be reached due to all the things you mentioned they still need to do. But hopefully they are working feverently to fix everything.

As far as the history aspect of the game, they claim it is a history game..which teaches you the history of all random things? First it was surfing, now ice cream..next up, the history of the electric kitchen? skiing? :confused3

Don't get me wrong but with all those settings clearly reffering to certain historical periods, one would expect the game to be more history related. Just take a look at all the furniture. Had you not known it was a history game,would you understand that it was from the palm trees, crates, ice cream stands and flowery chairs (and many more not history related furnish). I made no comparison to vmk furniture because I like to think of them as different games but as you can see they are doing their best to make them look the same.

NedsTJ
06-22-2008, 12:20 PM
I think their goal of opening the game on June 26th may not be reached due to all the things you mentioned they still need to do. But hopefully they are working feverently to fix everything.


Why should a "few" bugs stop them now? (by posting this I'm sure to be wrong come th 26th, LOL), but they opened to Beta on the 22nd without being ready, so why should something as simple as a launch date be put in their way?? I suspect they open, but continue to repair (or not!) lines of code, fix bugs, update graphics, issue releases, add games, and grow...I have to admire their moxie...

TinkPinkPoem
06-22-2008, 12:45 PM
Why should a "few" bugs stop them now? (by posting this I'm sure to be wrong come th 26th, LOL), but they opened to Beta on the 22nd without being ready, so why should something as simple as a launch date be put in their way?? I suspect they open, but continue to repair (or not!) lines of code, fix bugs, update graphics, issue releases, add games, and grow...I have to admire their moxie...

You are right, that's why I said hopefully they are working on fixing things. It was wishful thinking.

Bee2u
06-22-2008, 02:40 PM
I think their goal of opening the game on June 26th may not be reached due to all the things you mentioned they still need to do. But hopefully they are working feverently to fix everything.

As far as the history aspect of the game, they claim it is a history game..which teaches you the history of all random things? First it was surfing, now ice cream..next up, the history of the electric kitchen? skiing? :confused3

Don't get me wrong but with all those settings clearly reffering to certain historical periods, one would expect the game to be more history related. Just take a look at all the furniture. Had you not known it was a history game,would you understand that it was from the palm trees, crates, ice cream stands and flowery chairs (and many more not history related furnish). I made no comparison to vmk furniture because I like to think of them as different games but as you can see they are doing their best to make them look the same.

I think they are trying to make the history part interesting, since so many kids complained about history being boring. Choosing things like ice cream instead of more serious topics is a way of getting the history in there without turning people off. The ice cream cart fits in with the victorian period quite well, the flowery chairs and lava lamps are from the sixties - recent history, but still history to kids born in the nineties.

NedsTJ
06-22-2008, 02:43 PM
....the flowery chairs and lava lamps are from the sixties - recent history, but still history to kids born in the nineties.

I hope you're not suggesting these are worlds we can look forward to in VFK....Hippie Land? :hippie: Nirvana World? :faint:

Sugar
06-22-2008, 04:05 PM
I hope you're not suggesting these are worlds we can look forward to in VFK....Hippie Land? :hippie: Nirvana World? :faint:

Hehehe!

This all reminds me of what I learn in this "Drugs and Society" course I'm taking for college! Such a vast history of drugs :rotfl: :rotfl: :hippie:

Bee2u
06-22-2008, 05:18 PM
I hope you're not suggesting these are worlds we can look forward to in VFK....Hippie Land? :hippie: Nirvana World? :faint:

Well, they do have a VFK_Groovy ... :hippie:
:rotfl:

tofubeast
06-22-2008, 07:36 PM
Congrats to Bugs who made it on the fastest ice cream questers list. Now I want to know how PIZZA did it in under 5 mins! :confused3 :thumbsup2

funfly
06-22-2008, 10:10 PM
I think they are trying to make the history part interesting, since so many kids complained about history being boring. Choosing things like ice cream instead of more serious topics is a way of getting the history in there without turning people off. The ice cream cart fits in with the victorian period quite well, the flowery chairs and lava lamps are from the sixties - recent history, but still history to kids born in the nineties.

I remember those chairs and lamps :hippie:

Congrats to Bugs who made it on the fastest ice cream questers list. Now I want to know how PIZZA did it in under 5 mins! :confused3 :thumbsup2

Pizza is fast food:laughing:

Sugar
06-23-2008, 12:15 AM
Pizza is fast food:laughing:

giggle fit!

Stephieann
06-23-2008, 12:34 AM
Parking at VFK!

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f176/stephieann74/vfk%20and%20vmk/parking.jpg

Disney Dreams
06-23-2008, 03:48 AM
It's still coming out on the date June 26, not 28th. If I were in charge I would
delay it about half a month to a month. But maybe if they fix all the bugs
and release Australian land, a few more mini games, trading, ignore button,
more rooms, etc in 4 days then I guess they're on a roll. :confused:

Dare I suggest....

A map. A map. A map.

swimmingneno
06-23-2008, 06:45 AM
I was just on during a live test... and some people will be very happy, becuase we will now have trading!!!!!!!

I was helping vfk_surfer, and she actually added me to her friends list! WOOT!

SharkMeal
06-23-2008, 11:31 AM
Dare I suggest....

A map. A map. A map.

Oh my.. no idea how that slipped my mind when I posted rofl!

SharkMeal
06-23-2008, 11:35 AM
I was just on during a live test... and some people will be very happy, becuase we will now have trading!!!!!!!

I was helping vfk_surfer, and she actually added me to her friends list! WOOT!

That's awesome we can trade now! But we were promised to be able
to trade credits if I can remember correctly and I don't see that. :confused3

user2 added me to her friend list. I didn't think VFK_'s could ask you though.

swimmingneno
06-23-2008, 12:47 PM
That's awesome we can trade now! But we were promised to be able
to trade credits if I can remember correctly and I don't see that. :confused3

user2 added me to her friend list. I didn't think VFK_'s could ask you though.

yea.. i had to send her a request via trade, but i will be deleted once i recieve my ice cream quest prize...

mir4mad
06-23-2008, 12:56 PM
I personally loved the ice cream quest content and play on history. It was a FUN way to learn some history ( I hate history!) and a great learning opportunity for princess. Princess ran into Fin and she even helped her with a question. Saw lots of staff around and they were all very helpful. Someone even got banned bashing the staff. Staff came very quickly. They were warned repeatedly and they kept up the bashing and violent threats, so BAM- booted- banned! That was fun to watch!:cool1:

VFK still has some issues/bugs to work out but I saw a HUGE improvement since the first quest. Not as much lag but for some reason i still crashed a ton on my big computer. It took about 25 minutes with all the crashing - every time I entered a new place or went back home I crashed. It went alot smoother on princess's laptop. A map would have made it easier for sure but i can totally understand why there isn't one and why they send you all over the place and back to where you already were before. They are still in testing mode- alpha/beta- who cares? I have to admire these people for taking on such a huge task and trying very hard to make a fun place for the kids to go to after losing VMK. :worship: :hug: Let's try to remember that they have NEVER developed a game like this before.
Everyone has a choice- play or not play.

Princess bought the new room. She tried to name it her castle suite but you can't say suite either so she said SWEET!

Have a good week! :duck:

SharkMeal
06-23-2008, 01:49 PM
yea.. i had to send her a request via trade, but i will be deleted once i recieve my ice cream quest prize...

Hmm, user2 is actually the one that sent me the request O_O. I messaged
her if it was a mistake and she never replied, I went to her room and as soon
as I got there and said hi she left.. but she's still on my list :D

stitchon
06-23-2008, 02:06 PM
I really wish VFK hadn't opened so early. I'd rather take a finished game in July then a half-finished game.

SkippyPaul
06-24-2008, 02:43 PM
Is anyone else having problems signin on to vfk? Its been 2 days. Just says something about trying to make connection.

~Rob

Bugdozer
06-24-2008, 02:59 PM
Is anyone else having problems signin on to vfk? Its been 2 days. Just says something about trying to make connection.

~Rob

Hi,

Ink has had the same problem for 2 days only. Did you update flash? He updated it 2 days ago and since has not been able to log in. Anyone else or anyone have ideas?

Thanks,
Bug

cyre
06-24-2008, 05:13 PM
i have that from time to time... then it starts working again. :confused3

tofubeast
06-24-2008, 06:25 PM
I am able to log on right now. Not many people on though.

souper
06-24-2008, 06:31 PM
Hi,

Ink has had the same problem for 2 days only. Did you update flash? He updated it 2 days ago and since has not been able to log in. Anyone else or anyone have ideas?

Thanks,
Bug


I had an issue a week or so ago when I could sign in using Firefox, but not IE6. It kept looping to the log in screen. This was not a connection error. There had been no updates done to the pc. At that time I had not downloaded gadget either. When I learned another player had the exact same issue, I wrote in to contact us. Although I did not get a written response, in less than 24 hours I could sign in with IE6 again. Not sure if it was a coincidence or not.

If you have not already done so, see if you can use Firefox as a bandaid. Maybe?
Hope this helps.
Happy

SharkMeal
06-24-2008, 08:00 PM
Their public release is the day after tomorrow. I really hope they do delay
it but they opened to beta when they weren't ready and they will probably
open publicly when they aren't ready.

Still it's awesome that it HAS improved a lot!

PrincessWendyBird
06-24-2008, 09:55 PM
I have heard from several sources that you are not alone in having the inability to connect to the game. Several staff have said they have been made aware of this and are working to fix it. This could explain why there have been no new updates today. Hope this gets worked out soon. :hug:

We are logging in Ok, but haven't updated the latest flash yet. Looks like we won't yet. ;)

cyre
06-25-2008, 09:19 AM
I had an issue a week or so ago when I could sign in using Firefox, but not IE6. It kept looping to the log in screen. This was not a connection error. There had been no updates done to the pc. At that time I had not downloaded gadget either. When I learned another player had the exact same issue, I wrote in to contact us. Although I did not get a written response, in less than 24 hours I could sign in with IE6 again. Not sure if it was a coincidence or not.

If you have not already done so, see if you can use Firefox as a bandaid. Maybe?
Hope this helps.
Happy

both browsers won't let me connect when i'm having the issue.

Horse
06-25-2008, 09:49 AM
Hi,

Ink has had the same problem for 2 days only. Did you update flash? He updated it 2 days ago and since has not been able to log in. Anyone else or anyone have ideas?

Thanks,
Bug

Bug, I updated flash and haven't had a problem after that. My boyfriend and I are both able to access our accounts on my computer since I did the update. I use IE only. Maybe it's a different problem. Have you or Ink tried calling them to resolve the problem?

aengus
06-25-2008, 10:29 AM
Well it seems to have been a rough beta period. Since the game opens tomorrow these problems will be gone thank goodness! :rotfl:

NedsTJ
06-25-2008, 11:46 AM
Well it seems to have been a rough beta period. Since the game opens tomorrow these problems will be gone thank goodness! :rotfl:

Ahem...:rolleyes1

I would like to ask that if you did quit VFK that you dont post only to cause arguments...

...There is a difference between contributing to a topic and just trying to flame people.
...
This was not aimed at anyone in particular.

:rolleyes1

Please note: The above quote was edited just to remove supurfluous comments and to be sure it was taken out of context...:stir: ;)

snowgracefulstone
06-25-2008, 12:38 PM
Ahem...:rolleyes1



:rolleyes1

Please note: The above quote was edited just to remove supurfluous comments and to be sure it was taken out of context...:stir: ;)

:rotfl: :lmao: :rotfl2: :thumbsup2

aengus
06-25-2008, 01:15 PM
Ahem...:rolleyes1



:rolleyes1

Please note: The above quote was edited just to remove supurfluous comments and to be sure it was taken out of context...:stir: ;)


OK smart guy now search for my I quit post :rotfl:

I will plead guilty to the second part though ROFL

Oops, what I meant to say was, you mean they wont be fixed tomorrow? :rotfl:

ETA: I will be logging in tomorrow to get a look first hand. If you want to see the rarest thing in VFK keep your eyes open ROFL

LuvN~Travel
06-25-2008, 01:28 PM
I just wondered if you managed to say that with a straight face in real life when you said it!:lmao: Aengus=optimist!
Kim

threeboysmom
06-25-2008, 02:26 PM
ETA: I will be logging in tomorrow to get a look first hand. If you want to see the rarest thing in VFK keep your eyes open ROFL

Smelling salts.... please? :faint:

cyre
06-25-2008, 02:40 PM
I would like to let you all know I am now the proud owner of over 50 purple crates. :banana:

aengus
06-25-2008, 04:19 PM
I would like to let you all know I am now the proud owner of over 50 purple crates. :banana:
what did you do stack them in the corner of a room?


oh yeah thats right you cant :rotfl2:


woot. how many reports will I do tomorrow from people yelling at me when I am in the game? :rotfl: Oh gosh... what if I am banned? :lmao:

Disney Dreams
06-25-2008, 06:03 PM
I would like to let you all know I am now the proud owner of over 50 purple crates. :banana:

How many bird exams does it take at the payments, sigh, word problems! Happy you got your purple crates! Wish I was as excited as you are - just trying to find a way to keep the interest. Maybe if I could actually build with them, I would be excited. Enjoy them Cyre!

Disney Dreams
06-25-2008, 06:05 PM
what did you do stack them in the corner of a room?
oh yeah thats right you cant :rotfl2:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :(

Bee2u
06-25-2008, 08:10 PM
I would like to let you all know I am now the proud owner of over 50 purple crates. :banana:

I think that you getting purple crates is the best thing about VFK so far!

cyre
06-25-2008, 08:21 PM
How many bird exams does it take at the payments, sigh, word problems! Happy you got your purple crates! Wish I was as excited as you are - just trying to find a way to keep the interest. Maybe if I could actually build with them, I would be excited. Enjoy them Cyre!

Thank you :) I'm sure we'll be able to stack them eventually :)

what did you do stack them in the corner of a room?

oh yeah thats right you cant :rotfl2:

woot. how many reports will I do tomorrow from people yelling at me when I am in the game? :rotfl: Oh gosh... what if I am banned? :lmao:

heh not quite. I don't have you on my list, but i will keep an eye out for you...report button ready...muahhaa

I think that you getting purple crates is the best thing about VFK so far!

hehe I think so too! woot!

Leila33
06-25-2008, 08:54 PM
I would like to let you all know I am now the proud owner of over 50 purple crates. :banana:

Wooo Hooooo!

So happy you finally got your purple crates!

cyre
06-25-2008, 08:58 PM
and what does one do with 53 purple crates??

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/xtcyre/VFK/crates.jpg

aengus
06-25-2008, 09:17 PM
looks very nice cyre :thumbsup2


wow, still no mention one way or the other about tomorrow huh?

vmkfan13
06-25-2008, 09:22 PM
VFK, I appreciate your effort in trying to bring the community together but I just think the game isn't ready to be released tomorrow.. unless version 1 is improved..

And in my opinion the graphics are a bit dated..

NedsTJ
06-26-2008, 05:29 AM
Due to public outcry and suggestions, they are making July 4th "Day One"....

Many in our community, especially educators, have requested that we make July 4th Day One. These requests are primarily based on conflicts with work and summer school schedules. With your help, we’ve stayed right on schedule, however, we also think July 4th is an excellent choice as it so eloquently represents freedom and a new beginning.

It's on the homepage....

TinkPinkPoem
06-26-2008, 06:46 AM
Due to public outcry and suggestions, they are making July 4th "Day One"....



It's on the homepage....


:rolleyes1

aengus
06-26-2008, 06:59 AM
Due to public outcry and suggestions, they are making July 4th "Day One"....



It's on the homepage....


heh, awkward right. I can't knock them for doing what I suggested but pushing it out just a week AND saying they are right on schedule?????

deep breath... Thanks VFK you made the right decision?!?!?!?!

OK someone else take over I feel faint :faint:

@_@

oops, I just couldnt do it.

let me help them with what release candidate means.

The term release candidate refers to a version with potential to be a final product, ready to release unless fatal bugs emerge

I do wonder if the person who updates the web page just doesnt have a clue or if they really collectively try to distort what is actually happening.

The good news is I dont have to log in there today :cool1:

souper
06-26-2008, 07:06 AM
I agree. I think it was a wise choice to delay.

NedsTJ
06-26-2008, 07:35 AM
I think it is a wise choice to move the date out...but they are now committing to a July 4th opening....sorta...it's really not a release now, but a "release canditate"...with more gamma's, deltas, Lamda-lamda-lamda's and....Omega-Mu's...test periods to come....I think they could have worded it a bit better so as to give themselves more leeway if they aren't ready for the RC release on the 4th. But, sometimes you just have to put a stake in the ground and drive for it to get something done...nothing like a deadline to spur people into action, LOL.

OT:5 bonus points for guesing the reference...:woohoo:

threeboysmom
06-26-2008, 08:05 AM
The good news is I dont have to log in there today :cool1:

:banana: :banana: :cool1: :banana: :banana:


Oops, sorry...I mean... :sad:

Gsterg
06-26-2008, 09:22 AM
i really think that during the days that we had NOTHING new.. the devs were working on something else. For example, when we got the trading system one day and then the next 3 days nothing, they were probably working on SEVERAL new features to release.

SharkMeal
06-26-2008, 10:20 AM
i really think that during the days that we had NOTHING new.. the devs were working on something else. For example, when we got the trading system one day and then the next 3 days nothing, they were probably working on SEVERAL new features to release.

Yeah before the audubon game was released there were no updates for
3 or 4 days and then the game came out.. And then there were no updates
for a couple more days and then shopping and furniture to buy came out..
and inventory. Now I know the next game is coming out July 4th but
maybe more big things will come out today. Did you notice the date did
actually change today :O. Possibly sitting down? More furniture? Map? Motions?
Menu button?

Horse
06-26-2008, 10:30 AM
cyre, your room looks great! Love it!!!


The good news is I dont have to log in there today :cool1:

Oh drat:( And we were all looking forward to "Report Aengus Day". Looks like we will have to postpone it until next month.

Bee2u
06-26-2008, 11:21 AM
cyre, your room looks great! Love it!!!




Oh drat:( And we were all looking forward to "Report Aengus Day". Looks like we will have to postpone it until next month.

You're right - there go my plans for the day. :rotfl2:

aengus
06-26-2008, 12:10 PM
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! next month yes, but thats next week.

if you see me running from room to room very quickly its to try to avoid being reported ROFL


ETA: oh and Ned, dont let them tell you what a RC is, look it up for yourself. They are trying to make it sound like its a beta period but its not. Release candidate means they expect it to be the Gold version unless major bugs arise.

Disney Dreams
06-26-2008, 12:29 PM
i really think that during the days that we had NOTHING new.. the devs were working on something else. For example, when we got the trading system one day and then the next 3 days nothing, they were probably working on SEVERAL new features to release.

I agree with this and have no problems with it. HOWEVER, how do you release quests where people have to go throughout your Kingdom without a map when you KNOW your exit spots are a breeding ground for yelling and fighting because people can't move?

They managed to cut off a bug that gave free extra credits within 1 day, but other things that would seem so basic to have before opening a game (much less end beta) still don't exist. This is my frustration. It's just too difficult to play.

Then, in a game where nothing changes for a week (which is okay), they release a red beach ball for 1 day? sigh

I REALLY want to love VFK, but I can't love a game as my stress relief fun zone when it stresses me out to do anything in it.

cyre
06-26-2008, 01:24 PM
I agree with this and have no problems with it. HOWEVER, how do you release quests where people have to go throughout your Kingdom without a map when you KNOW your exit spots are a breeding ground for yelling and fighting because people can't move?

They managed to cut off a bug that gave free extra credits within 1 day, but other things that would seem so basic to have before opening a game (much less end beta) still don't exist. This is my frustration. It's just too difficult to play.

Then, in a game where nothing changes for a week (which is okay), they release a red beach ball for 1 day? sigh

I REALLY want to love VFK, but I can't love a game as my stress relief fun zone when it stresses me out to do anything in it.

I've decided i'm not going to play this game like i did vmk. I'll get the things I enjoy having, and not care about the virtual future. Not saying that's what you're thinking, it is just how i've decided to play this game. Hence my trading my quest items for purple crates. I just don't care. lol.

Sugar
06-26-2008, 01:36 PM
I've decided i'm not going to play this game like i did vmk. I'll get the things I enjoy having, and not care about the virtual future. Not saying that's what you're thinking, it is just how i've decided to play this game. Hence my trading my quest items for purple crates. I just don't care. lol.


I agree with both of you. They opened their first quest, and I didn't know about it until I went in to work the day it closed. Their second quest ran entirely while I was at work. The third quest I started a half hour before I went to work, thinking I could finish, and there were questions I couldn't even google! I got it done when I got home from work though :thumbsup2

But I really don't like the fact that they've given so many promises (already) and have broken them. Where's our map? Running around the whole place looking for "a house with a porch" (BTW there is not just 1) was a bit ridiculous.

Perhaps VFK seems to think they have a very forgiving "fan-base" but what they don't realize is that many of us keep coming back for our friends only.
I know that's why I'm there.

- Sugar

MPhins13
06-26-2008, 02:02 PM
and what does one do with 53 purple crates??

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/xtcyre/VFK/crates.jpg

:banana: I'm happy that you finally got purple crates (even though it's not in a better game). I knew you were waiting for them in VMK. :cool1:

Disney Dreams
06-26-2008, 02:33 PM
I've decided i'm not going to play this game like i did vmk. I'll get the things I enjoy having, and not care about the virtual future. Not saying that's what you're thinking, it is just how i've decided to play this game. Hence my trading my quest items for purple crates. I just don't care. lol.

In some ways I agree with you, except....
You ARE playing in a similar way. You had the very wanted quest item; therefore, you were able to get your purple crates. That's EXACTLY how trading works. All those who couldn't complete the quest would LOVE your prize that you got.

But, yes, I know what you mean in terms of not getting carried away with "collecting" and just getting what you really want.

I too love the purple crates. Just wish I could build something with them.

AmberDaze
06-26-2008, 03:03 PM
I've decided i'm not going to play this game like i did vmk. I'll get the things I enjoy having, and not care about the virtual future. Not saying that's what you're thinking, it is just how i've decided to play this game. Hence my trading my quest items for purple crates. I just don't care. lol.


Cyre, it's funny -- I'm feeling the same way as you are about vfk. After being on there just a few times, I've decided that this truly isn't the game for me. :(

Disney Dreams
06-26-2008, 03:28 PM
...After being on there just a few times, I've decided that this truly isn't the game for me. :(

Yep. :( And it almost breaks your heart, huh?

AmberDaze
06-26-2008, 04:42 PM
Yep. :( And it almost breaks your heart, huh?

Yes, it's sad to say, because so many friends are there. I've devoted some time and I did enjoy myself, but I had to force myself to stay there. I can't imagine myself staying on for 8 hours straight again, whereas I used to stay on VMK more hours than that.

It's still the early stages, so I will keep my eyes open to see what happens. Since nothing they do will bring them up to VMK status, for me, this game still won't be in the same league...

Mnementh
06-26-2008, 05:15 PM
Well, VFK is getting on the right track. They had enough sense to push it back a little bit. Key word being "little". Are they going to push it back a week at a time until they hear that the players are okay with the game coming out of beta?


OT:
I think it is a wise choice to move the date out...but they are now committing to a July 4th opening....sorta...it's really not a release now, but a "release canditate"...with more gamma's, deltas, Lamda-lamda-lamda's and....Omega-Mu's...test periods to come....I think they could have worded it a bit better so as to give themselves more leeway if they aren't ready for the RC release on the 4th. But, sometimes you just have to put a stake in the ground and drive for it to get something done...nothing like a deadline to spur people into action, LOL.

OT:5 bonus points for guesing the reference...:woohoo:

You're such a NERD...

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/revengeofthenerds.jpg

PrincessWendyBird
06-27-2008, 12:31 AM
I've decided i'm not going to play this game like i did vmk. I'll get the things I enjoy having, and not care about the virtual future. Not saying that's what you're thinking, it is just how i've decided to play this game. Hence my trading my quest items for purple crates. I just don't care. lol.

Hugs cyre! :hug: I love your purple crate room.
We are also taking this game on in a new way. We have taken VMK's closing and used it to re-evaluate our online play. It has been a blessing in a way. We are also focusing on the things in this game we like and also giving things away when we can. We have been playing the quests as a family with the kids and it has been so fun. We even had an ice cream party after the ice cream quest.
We are also getting better sleep and have been able to spend less time online. We still love to get on and spend time with friends and play the game, but after VMK closed it changed our view of playing these kind of games. We were guilty of many times getting too wrapped up in items and quests - All for things to just disappear. :worried: So now we figure we will play to do the things we enjoy and be with friends we love to be around. :goodvibes
Hugs everyone - hopefully we will see some of you around the kingdom.

Off to bed, we have a busy day tomorrow. King and I are attending a home school conference. Fun and shopping! :cool1:

SharkMeal
06-27-2008, 09:10 AM
Yep, I wouldn't have done this in any other game but I have given away
a total of around 150,000 credits to those who wanted items more than I did,
because I got so much credits from the game. I'm still on often, it's still hard
for me to understand that vmk is gone and all. But I'm trying not to get caught
up too much! But I do think this is the only game that appeals to me so far,
elf island looks fun too :)

SharkMeal
06-27-2008, 10:37 AM
OK I won't say anything Aengus, heh, but I don't think there is a quest going
on right now, there is a VFK quest scheduled for the 29th.

dudeonator
06-27-2008, 10:46 AM
OK I won't say anything Aengus, heh, but I don't think there is a quest going
on right now, there is a VFK quest scheduled for the 29th.


I was about to say this also, and that VFK is not down. But Aengus's post seems to have gone poof.:confused:

aengus
06-27-2008, 11:08 AM
I got bad info so I just deleted it so i wouldnt confuse anyone, but looks like I managed to do that anyways ROFL

Goofy05
06-27-2008, 12:37 PM
Taken from VFK's homepage:

VFK FAD-ulous Summer Quest
Sunday, June 29th 7:00 A.M. Pacific time to Monday June 30th 10:00 P.M. Pacific time

What's better then a summer full of fun and fads! This Sunday and Monday join us as we search for some of the funniest, funkiest, and way out fads through history. So grab your Tamagotchi, dust off your hula-hoop, and get ready for the new craze in quests! It's going to be a blast from the past, not just a passing fad, so get ready to Woot for the Zoot! You won't want to miss the awesome prizes, because they might just teleport you where you want to go.



While this is all fine and dandy, I don't see how such recent history fits with the Colonial, Victorian, Medieval or Old Western areas of VFK. (Tamagotchi is historical?) :confused3

SharkMeal
06-27-2008, 05:35 PM
Hey, everyone, there are updates on VFK.

You can now have your own signature on your player card.
You have a player card when you click on yourself and other players.
You have a pin lanyard on your player card, no pins yet though ;)
You have a reply button when you view your messages so you don't have to
search for your friend in that list to reply to them.
When you receive a message the message button flashes.
It seems they are trying to code things better, when you move over the new
trade, friend, boot, report buttons in the player card the mouse thing turns
into a hand.

However my send button is not working now.

threeboysmom
06-27-2008, 06:36 PM
boot, report buttons in the player card

Woot! Just in time! Aengus is coming to town soon! :dance3:

NedsTJ
06-27-2008, 07:09 PM
OT:


You're such a NERD...



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aengus
06-27-2008, 08:49 PM
Woot! Just in time! Aengus is coming to town soon! :dance3:


oh plz pink when was the last time you were even in there? :rotfl2:

TinkPinkPoem
06-28-2008, 06:28 AM
Taken from VFK's homepage:



While this is all fine and dandy, I don't see how such recent history fits with the Colonial, Victorian, Medieval or Old Western areas of VFK. (Tamagotchi is historical?) :confused3

I agree.

From the type of furniture to the quest themes nothing about the game but for the areas of vfk seems to be history related.

In previous pages someone said that they are trying to distance the game from the original history theme to make it more fun but in my opinion they are once again not true to what they say.

I believe that the game would have a lot of potential as a fully fledged history game. It would be really interesting.

But that's just my two cents.

:confused3

SharkMeal
06-28-2008, 06:57 AM
And you two are at it again :rolleyes:

By the way a new room was added really early this morning from
a live test apparently:

http://i26.tinypic.com/28kimx0.png

I like how the electric sparks and torch are animated it adds a
nice touch.. Also you can't actually get into Merlins yet but with pin
lanyards added yesterday and today we get closer to the merlins door
to opening I think we may be getting magic soon.