After 4pm Park Tickets for DVC members?

[dpware]

Does anybody else think Disney should offer DVC members discounted, after 4pm Park Tickets, especially at Epcot, like they do for Florida residents?

[vicki_c]

I never heard of after 4 PM tix for Florida residents when I lived there (2004-2006), only for conference attendees. :confused3

[WilsonFlyer]

I never heard of after 4 PM tix for Florida residents when I lived there (2004-2006), only for conference attendees. :confused3

I'd never heard of a LOT of the things in this thread until reading it: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1452684

Written by a CM who apparently sold/sells tickets, it's a MUST read. VERY informative. Covers virtually everything you ever wanted to know about tickets and ticketing and some things you didn't even know you WANTED to know. LOL

This is covered in the 3rd or 4th post down. :)

[DebbieB]

I think there used to be an after 4 Epcot annual pass for FL residents. Not sure if it is still available. I don't know that it would be popular for DVC members. Residents could use it to go to Epcot after work for dinner but why would a non-resident DVC member want it? You're only going to Epcot after 4:00?

[dpware]

I don't know that it would be popular for DVC members. Residents could use it to go to Epcot after work for dinner but why would a non-resident DVC member want it? You're only going to Epcot after 4:00?

I think it could be useful for DVC members. Many members go and stay for weeks vs. days. The trips are more traditional vacations (healthy doses of Rest and Relaxation) than those who come down for 4 or 5 days and spend a day at each park with hardly any time for much else. That said, on those days you choose to spend at the pool, waterpark, non-Disney theme park, etc., it would be nice to affordably enter Epcot for Dinner or a stroll through the Countries with your favorite adult beverage.

[DVCSAMNH]

I would be really interested in this if it were cheaper than the 10-day, park-hopper, non-expiry.

I have an annual pass but sometimes travel with my daughter and sometimes travel with my husband so they have the 10 day hoppers. A cheaper option to go to Epcot for dinner and spend a few hours would be attractive. I can't imagine it happening unless there is a strong downturn in park attendance which I sure didn't see last week. They just don't need to offer something like this.

[dianeschlicht]

I don't see much purpose in that for us. I love my APs and woudn't know how to vacation without them.

[DVCLiz]

I don't see much purpose in that for us. I love my APs and woudn't know how to vacation without them.

I agree. With the frequency of my trips thanks to DVC and the lovely discount on APs, it makes much more sense for me to just get and renew APs each year. I never worry about whether it "pays" to use a ticket.

[jakenjess]

I think it could be useful for DVC members. Many members go and stay for weeks vs. days. The trips are more traditional vacations (healthy doses of Rest and Relaxation) than those who come down for 4 or 5 days and spend a day at each park with hardly any time for much else. That said, on those days you choose to spend at the pool, waterpark, non-Disney theme park, etc., it would be nice to affordably enter Epcot for Dinner or a stroll through the Countries with your favorite adult beverage.

I agree with this. I would definitely be interested for the right price. We've done APs in the past, but with the kids getting a little older, and fewer bargain airfares to be found, it's more difficult to get our money's worth from the APs. I'm thinking seriously about the 10-day non-expiring tickets for next time.

[WolfpackFan]

I think there used to be an after 4 Epcot annual pass for FL residents. Not sure if it is still available. I don't know that it would be popular for DVC members. Residents could use it to go to Epcot after work for dinner but why would a non-resident DVC member want it? You're only going to Epcot after 4:00?

I would love this pass. I can see many DVC trips in our future where we do not do any parks. BUT I do love Epcot, especially for eating dinner and strolling around WS in the evening. I'd love an after 4 Epcot only pass.

[jdg345]

I agree with this. I would definitely be interested for the right price. We've done APs in the past, but with the kids getting a little older, and fewer bargain airfares to be found, it's more difficult to get our money's worth from the APs. I'm thinking seriously about the 10-day non-expiring tickets for next time.

What's the consensus on this? How many Park Days before the 10-day non-expiring works out to be the better deal? We usually do AP's because they're easier, but we too are traveling less to The World due to higher travel costs.

[Robo-Daddy 3000]

It would be a nice new perk if they offered this type of ticket to DVC members whether it was at a discount or not. At present the only discount for DVC members on tickets is for the AP. An after 4pm ticket for Epcot would be a great option to have. :thumbsup2

[bobbiwoz]

We renew our AP's.

If you go so often to get an annual pass you wouldn't need anything to eat at Epcot. If you are going to be in WDW so many times that you would love to eat in Epcot 20 times or so, wouldn't you also want to go to another park?

These comments are based on my understanding that these are "Special type of ANNUAL Florida residents passes." They are not 1 use media.

Bobbi:goodvibes

[JaxFLBear]

We renew our AP's.

If you go so often to get an annual pass you wouldn't need anything to eat at Epcot. If you are going to be in WDW so many times that you would love to eat in Epcot 20 times or so, wouldn't you also want to go to another park?

These comments are based on my understanding that these are "Special type of ANNUAL Florida residents passes." They are not 1 use media.

Bobbi:goodvibes

Your correct Bobbi. The Epcot After 4 Florida Resident Pass is for a year. The cost is $127.00 for adults.

[dpware]

I don't see much purpose in that for us. I love my APs and woudn't know how to vacation without them.

I guess when I said this could work because DVC members tend to spend weeks vs. days at Disney, I was probably speaking for those who "weeks" means 2 or 3 vs. for those who "weeks" can mean many more.

Right now, if my math is correct, the cheapest option would cost my wife and me no less than $80 or so just to enter Epcot. I just think it would be nice to have a cheaper option, of course with restrictions (i.e. after 4pm, weekdays or Mon-Thur, etc.)

[tjkraz]

Disney wants DVCers using APs. With an AP, people are prone to want to take that "one more trip before the pass expires." Too many of those extra trips leads to an add-on.

I also think that DVC members using APs don't do much to maximize the value of the park admission, either. AP holders visit for a couple hours...go to 2 or 3 attractions...hopefully (in Disney's eyes) spend $100 on a nice meal...and then leave.

By comparison, if you give people access to "after 4pm" admission at a reduced price, they will still try to cram an entire day's worth of attractions in that limited time block.

[Chuck S]

I just don't see the "after 4 EPCOT only" pass as being an advantage. We generally travel 2x a year, 9 to 10 nights per stay. We enjoy all the parks at a leisurely pace, and enjoy dining in all the parks as well.

And the only park where an "after 4" pass would even be feasible is EPCOT, the other parks close too early in the off season. I'd also expect cuts are coming, with the high cost of travel, similar to those actions we saw when tourism dropped after 9-11. You'll not only see a decrease in tourism because of the travel/gas costs, but an increase in park operating expenses that we didn't see after 9-11 because of higher overall energy costs. The tourism factor hasn't really hit yet, because a lot of travel plans were made prior to the major gas price increases, and pre-paid.

[Robo-Daddy 3000]

I think if you are the kind of person who doesn't park hop, and doesn't care all that much about Future World, it might be worth it to buy a MYW base ticket and an EPCOT after 4 pass. You can spend your days at one of the other 3 parks with the MYW ticket and then go to EPCOT at night with an after 4 pass. I haven't done the math-maybe it doesn't make sense to buy tickets that way. Either way, it wouldn't work for us now with our kids, but it's always good to have different options.

[BWV Dreamin]

I would love an after 4p. park ticket option. As DVC owner's, chances are you have been to the parks enough where you don't always need to stay "all day". Since I own at BWV, I would love to have that pass for dinner ressie's at Epcot.

[jdg345]

I think if you are the kind of person who doesn't park hop, and doesn't care all that much about Future World, it might be worth it to buy a MYW base ticket and an EPCOT after 4 pass. You can spend your days at one of the other 3 parks with the MYW ticket and then go to EPCOT at night with an after 4 pass. I haven't done the math-maybe it doesn't make sense to buy tickets that way. Either way, it wouldn't work for us now with our kids, but it's always good to have different options.

I thought about this too ... but I think the 'Park Hopper' option is only like $3 per day on a 7-10 day pass. It's the No Expiry that gets expensive.

Where this could maybe work is if you did something else during the day and limited your Epcot visits until after 4pm. So you would never/rarely use your MYW pass for Epcot?

[TenThousandVolts]

On general principle- I would like to be offered the same perks and discounts as FL residents. My travel habits don't work with AP usage- so we do the 10 day no-exp tickets. I sometimes use a ticketed event party (ie: MNSSHP) as a way to stretch my tickets. Swim and relax in the day- hit MK at 4 or 5 pm.
I would love to be able to buy an EPCOT after 4 pass and use it to economize my myw tix. Of course I don't expect Disney to offer it unless they see it as being in their best interest- still I would like to see DVC'ers as top tier guests when it comes to perks that are offered to select demographics (AP holders, FL residents...)

[Kewz1]

When my kids were much younger we would get this pass. This was our pre-DVC days and we would go to WDW in the summer for 4-5 days. We stayed at the BC and just hung out at the pool all day. We'd head into Epcot at night -- our favorite time to be there -- and enjoy a nice dinner and Illuminations.

I actually kind of miss those times! They were soooo relaxing!

Kristen

[Maistre Gracey]

We renew our AP's.

If you go so often to get an annual pass you wouldn't need anything to eat at Epcot. If you are going to be in WDW so many times that you would love to eat in Epcot 20 times or so, wouldn't you also want to go to another park?

I agree 100%.
An entire year of only Epcot after 4:00 doesn't sound enticing to me.. :confused3

MG

[dpware]

I agree 100%.
An entire year of only Epcot after 4:00 doesn't sound enticing to me.. :confused3

MG

If you go enough so that an AP makes sense, that would be your best value. But for many it isn't.

And, this would be for days when you don't want to go to Epcot for the whole day, but would of course not preclude you from using other options on days when you do want to go for the whole day.

[Maistre Gracey]

If you go enough so that an AP makes sense, that would be your best value. But for many it isn't.

And, this would be for days when you don't want to go to Epcot for the whole day, but would of course not preclude you from using other options on days when you do want to go for the whole day.
I do understand your point.
I just can't imagine anyone taking several trips a year to WDW, and not doing any parks other than Epcot after 4:00.

Yes, we're all different, but this one just seems odd to me. :smokin:

MG

[Maistre Gracey]

If you go enough so that an AP makes sense, that would be your best value. But for many it isn't.

And, this would be for days when you don't want to go to Epcot for the whole day, but would of course not preclude you from using other options on days when you do want to go for the whole day.
Okay, hold the phone..
Are you saying, for example, get a 10 day MYW without hopping, plus an after 4 Epcot ticket. Then, on a pool day, use the Epcot ticket for dinner so you don't burn a full day off the MYW?

I'll give that some thought... :scratchin

MG

[dpware]

Okay, hold the phone..
Are you saying, for example, get a 10 day MYW without hopping, plus an after 4 Epcot ticket. Then, on a pool day, use the Epcot ticket for dinner so you don't burn a full day off the MYW?

I'll give that some thought... :scratchin

MG

Exactly. Or in addition to whatever ticket you primarily use. I think a long term (8-10 day) no-expiration, MYW w/Park Hopping is a great value overall. But I don't want to use that to run into Epcot for a Dinner or a few drinks.

I guess this would be most valuable for BWV and BCV members, but may still have appeal to others as well. (You’re only a SHORT bus ride away!)

[Maistre Gracey]

Exactly. Or in addition to whatever ticket you primarily use.
Well, you know... that just might work for some people.
I never thought of that angle. :smokin:

MG

[jdg345]

Okay, hold the phone..
Are you saying, for example, get a 10 day MYW without hopping, plus an after 4 Epcot ticket. Then, on a pool day, use the Epcot ticket for dinner so you don't burn a full day off the MYW?

I'll give that some thought... :scratchin

MG

Exactly! It could 'extend' the value of your 10 day pass. Spend the day at the pool or at mini golf or at DTD or whatever, and then spend the evening at Epcot. If you did it twice a year, it would pay for itself.

[Maistre Gracey]

Exactly! It could 'extend' the value of your 10 day pass. Spend the day at the pool or at mini golf or at DTD or whatever, and then spend the evening at Epcot. If you did it twice a year, it would pay for itself.
And you really could forgo the hoping option on the MYW. I mean, you would always have the option to hop to Epcot.

For us a PAP works best, but I've seen the light as to why this would be a good option to have. :smokin:

MG

[DisFlan]

It wouldn't work for me, but my DH would love it. He plays golf every other day. If he had an After 4 Ticket, he'd play golf every day.

DisFlan

[WolfpackFan]

I just can't imagine anyone taking several trips a year to WDW, and not doing any parks other than Epcot after 4:00.

Yes, we're all different, but this one just seems odd to me.

I see nothing odd about it at all. We've been to WDW 5 times in the last year and we're both pretty much "Disneyed" out, especially when it comes to the parks. We're both 55+ old and really look forward to spending more relaxing time just hanging out at the resort. Plus we plan on spending more time in the future seeing other attractions in the central Florida area besides WDW parks. BUT we do really enjoy WS at Epcot - especially the restaurants. What's wrong with wanting a pass that would just give us that?

Frankly, I hope I never have to hear "It's A Small World" again for several years.

[Muushka]

What's the consensus on this? How many Park Days before the 10-day non-expiring works out to be the better deal? We usually do AP's because they're easier, but we too are traveling less to The World due to higher travel costs.

It depends on your touring/vacationing style. For those who feel that they must go into the parks daily, AP works well. For those who enjoy 'no park' days, the non-exp PHP works great. That would be us. Our 10 day will last us several visits, about 2 to 3 years (only going into the parks 1 or 2 times in a week).

Disney wants DVCers using APs. With an AP, people are prone to want to take that "one more trip before the pass expires." Too many of those extra trips leads to an add-on.

I also think that DVC members using APs don't do much to maximize the value of the park admission, either. AP holders visit for a couple hours...go to 2 or 3 attractions...hopefully (in Disney's eyes) spend $100 on a nice meal...and then leave.

By comparison, if you give people access to "after 4pm" admission at a reduced price, they will still try to cram an entire day's worth of attractions in that limited time block.

Actually for someone like us, after 4 at Epcot would earn WDW much more money. We use the 10 day PHP and don't go into the parks many days. If we had that after 4, we would probably visit Epcot every evening for the fireworks and world showcase. And have dinner ($$$)! As it stands now, we eat off site several nights, or in the villa.

Okay, hold the phone..
Are you saying, for example, get a 10 day MYW without hopping, plus an after 4 Epcot ticket. Then, on a pool day, use the Epcot ticket for dinner so you don't burn a full day off the MYW?

I'll give that some thought... :scratchin

MG

Ding Ding Ding We have a winner!

If you go enough so that an AP makes sense, that would be your best value. But for many it isn't.

And, this would be for days when you don't want to go to Epcot for the whole day, but would of course not preclude you from using other options on days when you do want to go for the whole day.

Yup, this is us. Are you listening Disney??;)

[Maistre Gracey]

I see nothing odd about it at all. We've been to WDW 5 times in the last year and we're both pretty much "Disneyed" out, especially when it comes to the parks. We're both 55+ old and really look forward to spending more relaxing time just hanging out at the resort. Plus we plan on spending more time in the future seeing other attractions in the central Florida area besides WDW parks. BUT we do really enjoy WS at Epcot - especially the restaurants. What's wrong with wanting a pass that would just give us that?

Frankly, I hope I never have to hear "It's A Small World" again for several years.
Well there's certainly nothing "wrong" with it at all.
I just find it odd, but as I said.. "we're all different".

I guess it's just us, but we don't tire of the Disney parks. I just enjoy walking around and being there. We don't wake up early to go, nor do we run from attraction to attraction. That said, I would feel disappointed if I didn't do the Haunted Mansion, and a few other select attractions every visit (of which It's a Small World is NOT one of them). :smokin:

MG

[lisaviolet]

I would love it! Especially when staying at BWV or BCV. We do many non-park vacations. A lot of times we're there during a hard ticket party. Which I love.

I do after 4 all the time anyway. Any ticket is my own little personal after 4 ticket. First of all I rarely get up before ten. And unfortunately, I'm pink. And become "pinker" from 10-2! So lazy and pink means I simply hang out until Mr. love/hate Florida sun is heading down. Parks at night - love them.

I would love it. And to use it with a MYW every now and again. Wish list.

[lisaviolet]

Whoops I should add if I had lots of money I would have an AP all the time. And use them as I want. I had one, one year, and it was heaven.

This isn't this idea vs. AP for many of us. And for my case - We simply, unfortunately right now, can't afford to buy APs every year.

[bobbiwoz]

Well, I am sorry that something like that isn't even available for you guys to buy. Maybe some nudging of the powers that be is in order!

I looked at Undercover tourist prices and even a 1 park 10 day non expiration costs over $400, so using that in place of this type of ticket would add $40 to the price of a meal...not practical, that's for sure.

Bobbi:goodvibes

[lisaviolet]

Well, I am sorry that something like that isn't even available for you guys to buy. Maybe some nudging of the powers that be is in order!

I looked at Undercover tourist prices and even a 1 park 10 day non expiration costs over $400, so using that in place of this type of ticket would add $40 to the price of a meal...not practical, that's for sure.

Bobbi:goodvibes

You're such a sweetheart Bobbi. :lovestruc Tell that husband that he is the luckiest man!!! Big celebration this year too, eh?

[mr. figment]

Can we do anything about these darn paper tickets? We have 10 day tickets and had them both replaced last week. We have 7 more days of paper tickets being replaced because they got within 10 feet of a magnet....:confused3

[Chuck S]

Can we do anything about these darn paper tickets? We have 10 day tickets and had them both replaced last week. We have 7 more days of paper tickets being replaced because they got within 10 feet of a magnet....:confused3

The plastic room key type become damaged/demagnetized, too.

[jdg345]

And you really could forgo the hoping option on the MYW. I mean, you would always have the option to hop to Epcot.

For us a PAP works best, but I've seen the light as to why this would be a good option to have. :smokin:

MG

True on the hopping, but that's typically not that expensive anyways ... $3/day or so. It's the No Expiry that really runs up the ticket price.

You'd have to carry two tickets though, but ... like you said, it could be a good option for some. ;)

[disney1474]

Many good thoughts on this topic!! Give members good discounts on all tickets. This would put more people in the parks, which means spending $$ there also. A win-win situation for all:thumbsup2

[Chuck S]

Many good thoughts on this topic!! Give members good discounts on all tickets. This would put more people in the parks, which means spending $$ there also. A win-win situation for all:thumbsup2

I don't know about that, exactly. We're annual passholders, and don't go into the parks everyday when we're on a trip. As DVC resorts operate at near capacity anyway, I'm not sure a 20% discount would truly mean more bodies in the parks spending $$$.

[disney1474]

Chuck S
You make a valid point. Purchasing an AP, even with the nice member discount, doesn't make sense for our family. We just can't afford to fly down (from CT.) more than once a year. We would love to though:)
So we purchased 4, 10 day non exp. passes with water park. We will only go to the parks 3 days out of 8 days. Trying to make them last for 3 trips. If disney would offer a good discount or even just a discount on renewing 10 day passes, we would definately be in the parks for more than 3 days and would be spending more money in the parks. I know this just pertains to my family, but I'm sure theres a lot of others like us. We do love disney!!:thumbsup2