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usschmidt
05-20-2008, 01:35 PM
With the rising cost of gas, food, etc. my family will probably not be able to afford AP's and multiple trips like we'd hoped (will live in NorCal.) We will be able to go 1 time, but I'm just so disappointed I'm beside myself.

I've only been 2 times my whole life...1978 and 2007. I remember my first visit very fondly but had no idea how wonderful it would be taking my own kids. It was the first vacation ever that was just for pure fun...no extended family, no work, no drama, no obligations, no guilt, etc. Of course it wasn't perfect, but nothing is.

This is the only place that I can post this and be truly understood. I'm seriously crying right now lol. Thank goodness my kids have no clue. They'd be crushed.

I'm trying to look on the bright side. The first wait was 19 years, the second wait will only be about 5 more months.

Thanks for letting me whine.

Jenn1116
05-20-2008, 01:53 PM
That's a big let down and I definitely feel for you. I'm planning a surprise trip for me, DD and my parents for this winter and may have to cancel if I get laid off in October due to budget cuts...(Stupid CA!) Keeping my fingers crossed.

On the bright side, at least you have a trip in the near future and it will be extra-special. Make sure to take a LOT of pics. And you can always starting putting money aside now for another trip in a year or two and use the great advice here to save money and cut costs for your trip. :)

DoomBugger
05-20-2008, 01:54 PM
Better may be sooner as the gas prices issue will only get worse.

Just a year ago it was like $2.75, just a month ago it was like $3.50, we are headed for oblivion.

Don't let it get you down, just try to be creative.

usschmidt
05-20-2008, 02:01 PM
Thanks, I feel better just getting it out. I know I'm just throwing myself a little pity party, but better here than irl kwim.

Gas ~ it's $3.99/gal here in Cupertino...sometimes I can get it a little cheaper. I'm not so worried about paying for the gas for the trip, but just how much it's eating into my monthly budget.

The other reason why I wanted to go multiple times this year is b/c we're planning on moving to Oregon in 2009. I know once we make that move we probably won't be able to make it back to DL for a few years.

If I could only win the lottery...but I guess I'd need to buy a ticket first, huh.

Again, thanks :love:

B9erSteve
05-20-2008, 02:59 PM
With the rising cost of gas, food, etc. my family will probably not be able to afford AP's and multiple trips like we'd hoped (will live in NorCal.) We will be able to go 1 time, but I'm just so disappointed I'm beside myself.

I've only been 2 times my whole life...1978 and 2007. I remember my first visit very fondly but had no idea how wonderful it would be taking my own kids. It was the first vacation ever that was just for pure fun...no extended family, no work, no drama, no obligations, no guilt, etc. Of course it wasn't perfect, but nothing is.

This is the only place that I can post this and be truly understood. I'm seriously crying right now lol. Thank goodness my kids have no clue. They'd be crushed.

I'm trying to look on the bright side. The first wait was 19 years, the second wait will only be about 5 more months.

Thanks for letting me whine.


I know exactly what you are going through. We're used to going 2-3 times per year but prices for everything not just gas, has me re-evaluating getting our annual passes in the future. I told my wife that in the future, we will probably only plan 1 trip to DL every other year and then on the off years will will plan more expensive, all-out types of vacations like DCL, or WDW.

daisy_77
05-20-2008, 03:13 PM
I know how you feel. We are most likely going to cancel our WDW trip for 2009 and I am not renewing my DL AP after this next trip. It is hard. I am hoping that something finally gives with the gas and grocery prices.

usschmidt
05-20-2008, 03:16 PM
In a sad way it's nice to know that I'm not the only one.

TBH I don't understand why they charge so much for everything. It's not like they're hurting for $ or anything. Does it really cost that much to run the park/hotels?

cascarlet
05-20-2008, 03:17 PM
Big hugs. I know we've have not been in several years because of money issues, but we decided to take our stimulas check and stimulate the economy at Disneyland!! I also took a part time job for Disney money working from home.

Things will turn around I hope soon.

Marianne

pumpkin5156
05-20-2008, 03:17 PM
I feel for you, and I'm so sorry. I've had to cancel a few one day trips already just because gas and food are outrageous.

I won't be renewing my AP in December, but I'm just trying to think of how exciting it will be when I can only go once a year. It's hard when you have kids, though, because you don't like to see them sad.

Keep your head up and maybe try to cut down somewhere so you can make it work. We don't eat out anymore...ever. It's saved us so much! We cut out our cable and went down a plan on the cell phone bill, too. There are lots of things you can do. Hopefully you can make it work.

:)

Pooh_Friend#1
05-20-2008, 03:17 PM
:hug:

pixiewings71
05-20-2008, 03:24 PM
WE bought AP's for the first time last July. We have had a blast with our frequent trips, we've just been jumping in the van and driving down on Friday afternoon, coming home on Sunday afternoon. Well we can't continue to do monthly trips but we are still thinking about getting the AP's renewed....we are thinking if we do a 4 or 5 day trip (over a weekend) every 3 months we will be more than happy, so I think that's what we are going to do. We are also talking about buying the Deluxe passes instead of Premium so we have free parking, that way we can stay farther away and just drive to the parks daily, I'm just hoping we can figure something out....I don't wanna wait for a year between visits! LOL

I feel for you, I hope you guys can work it out so you can make more trips, we Disney Addicts need our fixes! LOL (((HUGS)))

honeymom
05-20-2008, 03:25 PM
I think Disney is more special feeling the less you go. I have never been able to afford an AP, or to go as often as some people on these boards. I lived in LA for a while before kids, and I guess that is the most regularly I went - once a year. Most of my trips have had at least 1 1/2 years between them.

I'm sorry you are disappointed. But, know that a lot of us are in the same boat. Disney isn't feeling it yet, but my guess is that they will at some point and we will see some better prices. I think it is really time for them to roll back some of their prices anyway. They really have gotten way too high.

DoomBugger
05-20-2008, 03:45 PM
The sad part about going every year and a half or so is that each time you approach the ticket kiosk the price has risen 10-15%.

The problem with assuming that Disney will eventually lower prices is that as food and fuel costs rise they also rise for the parks and if anything the prices will continue to rise.

There are so many people inthe world, Disney will always draw big crowds I'm convinced and they will continue to raise their prices unfortunately.

bumbershoot
05-20-2008, 03:54 PM
We are also talking about buying the Deluxe passes instead of Premium so we have free parking, that way we can stay farther away and just drive to the parks daily

That's backwards. Deluxe has blockout dates and doesn't come with parking, but Premium has no blockout dates and come with parking.

Though you can add parking to an AP, even the so cal ones if memory serves, for about 59 bucks right now.



OP, I'm sorry. We've been very lucky in that since our first big trip in September, hubby got a job that pays for transit passes, so his commute is 100% free. Has certainly saved us on gas!

Actually that's something to think about when you move to OR; moving to a community that has good public transportation. If you're moving into Portland there are a ton of options, for instance. And if you have a company that is forward-thinking like hubby's (OK, so it's Seattle that offers the transit passes to companies based in Seattle) it's even better!

usschmidt
05-20-2008, 04:03 PM
Thanks for all the tips! Thanks, Molly, for the heads up about transit passes. We will be moving to Portland...really like Garden Home area. But we'll just wait and see what's available this time next year.

kelmac284
05-20-2008, 04:23 PM
Portland has GREAT public tranist. They have the max train that is linked to the buses and you can buy a monthly pas and park and ride. THat is what I did when I lived there. It is a great system and they even have a fareless square area where you can ride for free!

I too know how you feel. We bought our first AP's in 06 and then renewed them in 07 and ours expire next month. We are NOT renewing them because we are using our stimulus checks to take a trip in Nov to Disneyworld. We have gone twice before, once in 02 and again in 05 and we knew back then that we wanted to go again in 08. Back then we could get roundtrip airfare to Orlando for 199 rt. But now I am dreading what we are going to pay. We flew Delta and American the last two times and BOTH those airlines are double that so we are holding out and hoping that southwest has decent fairs. But we are afraid we may have to pay more even with them and they are NO FRILLS. No movies, NO food and NO layover. We also stay in my mom's timeshare to avoid paying hotel fees and on and on.

But alas this will most likely be our LAST trip back there because of rising costs and if it wasn't for that stimulus check we wouldn't even be taking THAT trip.

And honestly the reason we even go to Disneyland as much as we do is because we have figured out that going THERE versus any other trip is actually cheaper than anything else we could do as a family.

Whether we drive or get a cheap southwest ticket and if we use an AP and go more than once in a year our tickets are basically free after the 2nd trip and then we always watch and get cheap room rates. So we can usually do a trip fairly cheap compared to ANY other trip to say hawaii or pretty much anywhere else.

But as I said we are letting our AP's expire this year because we know we can't use them because of our DW trip and we won't be able to go back to Disneyland for AT LEAST 14 months now. It is sad but we will always find a way to go back even if it is only once a year because it is our favorite place and we can always find a way to go on a budget and still have a good time. And compared to other vacation destinations it truly is the cheapest thing we can do.

pycees312
05-20-2008, 05:11 PM
With the rising cost of gas, food, etc. my family will probably not be able to afford AP's and multiple trips like we'd hoped (will live in NorCal.) We will be able to go 1 time, but I'm just so disappointed I'm beside myself.

I've only been 2 times my whole life...1978 and 2007. I remember my first visit very fondly but had no idea how wonderful it would be taking my own kids. It was the first vacation ever that was just for pure fun...no extended family, no work, no drama, no obligations, no guilt, etc. Of course it wasn't perfect, but nothing is.

This is the only place that I can post this and be truly understood. I'm seriously crying right now lol. Thank goodness my kids have no clue. They'd be crushed.

I'm trying to look on the bright side. The first wait was 19 years, the second wait will only be about 5 more months.

Thanks for letting me whine.

ooh my goodness..I also live in Nor CAl and i do hear what you are saying.
You may want to consider this.. Normally my family would spend 5 days or more in southern Cal when we would go. However for memorial day we are going Sunday-tuesday. And my kids are still jumping for joy. We will still get to experience the magic just not on a grand scale as before. We learned a few things from our last trips that were going to apply to this trip. We can eat a breakfast at cafe orleans. We know what everyone will order and what the price will be. We will skip lunch and order pizza from the local vendors for really cheap and eat in our hotel room for dinner. Hojo although this will be our first time there had a really good entertainment rate. So we will be 1 night at hojo and 1 in the Paradise Pier hotel. So there are ways to make it work.. and we all love Disney enough to skip on some luxuries were used to.
For food pricing etc. check out www.*****************
Good luck!

Leofoenget
05-20-2008, 05:20 PM
With the rising cost of gas, food, etc. my family will probably not be able to afford AP's and multiple trips like we'd hoped (will live in NorCal.) We will be able to go 1 time, but I'm just so disappointed I'm beside myself.

I've only been 2 times my whole life...1978 and 2007. I remember my first visit very fondly but had no idea how wonderful it would be taking my own kids. It was the first vacation ever that was just for pure fun...no extended family, no work, no drama, no obligations, no guilt, etc. Of course it wasn't perfect, but nothing is.

This is the only place that I can post this and be truly understood. I'm seriously crying right now lol. Thank goodness my kids have no clue. They'd be crushed.

I'm trying to look on the bright side. The first wait was 19 years, the second wait will only be about 5 more months.

Thanks for letting me whine.

Where in N. Ca do you live? I live in Santa Clara. It takes 2 tanks of gas to get there and back at $65 each. (ouch) BUT that's still cheaper than flying. Even with $129 southwest flight I just saw 20 mins ago, because you would then have to rent a car. If you price cost it out over the whole family it isnt' that bad if you do other cost cutting things. I do understand though, AP's for the whole family is pretty darn expensive.

bumbershoot
05-20-2008, 05:24 PM
For food pricing etc. check out www.*****************
Good luck!

[edited]

and allears.net

if only the dis, aka wdwinfo, would get some disneyland menus up, then we could refer them to there/here! :)

Where in N. Ca do you live? I live in Santa Clara. It takes 2 tanks of gas to get there and back at $65 each. (ouch) BUT that's still cheaper than flying. Even with $129 southwest flight I just saw 20 mins ago, because you would then have to rent a car. If you price cost it out over the whole family it isnt' that bad if you do other cost cutting things. I do understand though, AP's for the whole family is pretty darn expensive.

I think the OP's point is that the daily costs are too high, keeping them from planning the trip. I remember how much money we were "missing" when hubby was commuting by car, he went through SO much gas money! Awful. I'm not even sure how we afforded our big trip in September with all that money going into the gas tank.

pycees312
05-20-2008, 05:35 PM
[edited]

and allears.net

if only the dis, aka wdwinfo, would get some disneyland menus up, then we could refer them to there/here! :)



I think the OP's point is that the daily costs are too high, keeping them from planning the trip. I remember how much money we were "missing" when hubby was commuting by car, he went through SO much gas money! Awful. I'm not even sure how we afforded our big trip in September with all that money going into the gas tank.

Thanks [edited] was the one i was trying to post. It will take us 165.00 for a round trip in gas.. but we are a family of 5 so that really beats the airlines by a mile.

NWPrincess
05-20-2008, 05:40 PM
Living all the way up here in Washington, we only get to go to DL every couple of years or so. But I agree with the previous posters that it makes DLR even more special when you can only visit occasionally. The bright side is that there will always be something new each time you visit (for me its Toy Story, Nemo, new DCA parade and possibly the Montessoro House).

mommaU4
05-20-2008, 05:40 PM
In a sad way it's nice to know that I'm not the only one.

TBH I don't understand why they charge so much for everything. It's not like they're hurting for $ or anything. Does it really cost that much to run the park/hotels?

Nope you aren't the only one. :hug:

We bought APs last October but won't be renewing them once they expire this Oct. We just cannot afford it. It's not just the cost of renewals but also hotel, gas, food, etc. for a family of 6 each time we go.

That just adds up too much. :sad2: So we've got one trip coming up, and then another 5 day trip in October and that will be it. I'll have to settle for memories after that. I know I'll be very upset on our way home after that last trip..... :guilty:

usschmidt
05-20-2008, 05:59 PM
Our family lives in another state, so that is where a lot of discretionary money goes...visiting them. I don't want to get into family politics, but they never come here or pick neutral ground. My dh's family is originally from Hawaii and there's a big family reunion this summer. Tix are so expensive ($700/seat) that only dh is going. DLR is the consolation trip for me and the girls. (Dh will come too of course.) Our original plan was to buy AP's and then take short little trips every so often. But it looks like 1 trip now...3 day hoppers and Hojo's.

I forgot to mention that our move to Portland will be on our dime and that is why money's so tight. We're requesting this transfer, so the company is not obligated to foot the bill. We figure we'll be better off in the long run with the cost of living change though.

stacymomof2
05-20-2008, 06:17 PM
Aww...I'm sorry.:hug: It is really getting crazy out there isn't it?

When you move to Oregon, if you are looking at the Garden Home area, you would be riding the bus (Trimet) Maxx isn't out there, so you could always ride the bus to the lightrail station.

I heard rumors that they are doing away with fareless square, but I could be wrong, I don't go downtown very often.

When you do take your DL trip, take TONS of pics and really savor your trip. It will make the memories that much better...and maybe you'll find your way back down there sooner, rather than later!

JenDisneylandlver
05-20-2008, 06:22 PM
Oh I know, extras like vacations is hard on everyone right now. We got to go twice last year, but we normally only go once a year. I look at it this way though, some people have never gone at all. They'd probably love to go once a year! So it helps to look at it that way. Our AP's expire the week after we get back from our trip in a few weeks. Won't be able to renew them this time. Figure next year we can buy hoppers and then upgrade to AP's. Always gotta have hope! :)

Going once a year also means I can usually save up to make it a really special vacation. With either staying onsite, or special meals ect... We won't be back after our trip in June for year I'm guessing (you never know though with me LOL). So I really tried to pack in the fun on this trip! :)

funatdisney
05-20-2008, 07:08 PM
I know some families that will but one premium AP and the rest of the family gets the Deluxe. That way you can take advantage of the discounts and free parking. Of course you have to be careful what time of the year you will visit. Most Saturdays are out for the Deluxe, but if you go for a Thursday to Monday trip, you can take Saturday off and just enjoy the hotel pool. May give you a much needed rest.

ironpig70
05-20-2008, 11:23 PM
we went from a 5 hour drive to near a 13 hour drive so i know how you feel. and with 5 flying is really expensive. i have figured we will continue our every 2 years and instead of trying to pay for it all at once when we go in 2 years(after our nov trip) we will save every week so that the cost doesn't kill us. and in order to do so we will have to budget thru the year. these trips are our big vacation and if need be i'll get another job.

jemilah
05-21-2008, 10:38 AM
we were going to get AP's this trip too and unless a miricle happens we won't get them after all. I am not canceling my ent rate for the Hojo in Nov just yet , like I said things can happen and we may go after all. With the stupid heatwave the electric bill will be soo much already and soon will be 400.oo a month :eek: . :grouphug:

JenDisneylandlver
05-21-2008, 11:02 AM
We normally drive 10 hours to get to DL. It does save us a ton of money that way, but it's a LONG haul. We are all usually very tired (and even more so for DH who does the driving) the day we arrive, and feel zonked even the next day some!

Because of some health problems I have we are going to fly this time. It will cost us over all about $344 more to fly. That includes a rental car too though. It will be well worth it for me, because of my health conditions. But I think it's going to make for a more enjoyable trip for all of us. We all won't be so tired from the long haul, and will even be in the park that morning! So I'm guessing were going to start flying every time now. I think anything over 4 hours and we'll fly.

And this is coming from someone who is scared of flying. LOL

pixiewings71
05-21-2008, 01:19 PM
That's backwards. Deluxe has blockout dates and doesn't come with parking, but Premium has no blockout dates and come with parking.

What would I do without you? LOL I always mess that up! LOL It's just that I really really really realllllllllllllllly want that Premium pass! LOL

pixiewings71
05-21-2008, 01:28 PM
Our family lives in another state, so that is where a lot of discretionary money goes...visiting them. I don't want to get into family politics, but they never come here or pick neutral ground.

This is my issue too, my family all lives in Idaho. I've been in CA for (holy cow) over 20 years now, my family has visited me twice. Yup, in 20 years they've made the drive twice. It always falls to us to drive to Idaho and that's a 10 hour drive minimum! Mom asked me the other day if we were coming to visit, I told her no but they were welcome to come here. I love my family but really, they need to make some effort too.
We can't afford to fly but we can still afford the gas to drive, it takes us about $150.00 round trip for the mini van, flying would be at least $50 per person 1 way, driving still beats that price! We are actually looking at hotels farther away so we can drive in and park, DBF seems to think that will work fine for us. He's probably right but I'll always try the HoJo to see if we can get the Ent Rate first. :)

I miss Oregon, it was a beautiful place state to live in, it was cold but beautiful. I lived the first 15 years of my life in Oregon, in a little tiny town in a valley in the mountains. Soooo pretty but way too cold for me! LOL

usschmidt
05-21-2008, 03:01 PM
I just pulled a whole bunch of stuff out of storage this morning to see what was sell-able on Craigslist lol. You all have inspired me to get creative and be thankful. I appreciated it!

DoomBugger
05-21-2008, 03:11 PM
I just pulled a whole bunch of stuff out of storage this morning to see what was sell-able on Craigslist lol. You all have inspired me to get creative and be thankful. I appreciated it!

It is good to see that your entusiasm has replaced the depression... being pro-active can yield just the results you were seeking. Good luck!

JadeDarkstar
05-21-2008, 07:45 PM
were thinkign we might only get one trip this time and no ap..but were'll see part of me dosent think we will even be able to do the first trip but if not its not the end the world its just so excpicve right now and to me starting to seem less and less importion (oh no is that bad)

Mouse Freak
05-22-2008, 01:46 AM
The cost of everything seems to be a factor in many of us not taking as many trips as we would like. I live in Hawaii and have noticed the flight costs skyrocket. I used to be able to fly to the mainland for about $199, Now it costs "a mint". The last time I traveled to the mainland was less than a month ago and it cost me $788. I was plannning a trip to see San Diego (Sea World, SD Zoo, Wild Animal Park) but have decided to save my money for my next trip to Disneyland instead.
Michelle Mallow - Maui, Hawaii:cutie:

Djibouti
06-04-2008, 10:21 PM
I hope this doesn't sound stupid.... but expedia has a special going on right now, if you book 3 nights you get a $50 gas card. It's not much but it helps. I can't remember if you said you booked a hotel yet.

mariezp
06-05-2008, 09:25 AM
We live in Texas so we only get to make it to DL once a year. While you have gotten spoiled to going often, I can tell you that it is still SOOOO worth getting to go just once a year. We start planning just as soon as we get back and DL is never very far from our thoughts so when the trip comes it is just all the more sweeter! I plan all the details to make each trip extra memorable so it lasts us the whole year.

Of course, if you decide going to DL more than once per year is a top priority you might be able to find ways to save money for the additional trips. Just set your mind to it and make it happen!

Either way... some DISNEYLAND is way better than none!