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cmc
04-30-2008, 12:36 PM
Does anyone know what the mugs look like now? We are going to All Star Movies Resort in a few weeks and my friend just went in Jan to Carribean Beach and she said we could use her mugs if they are the same. How much are they and can you fill them up anywhere you want or just at your hotel?

canadianmom2three
04-30-2008, 12:40 PM
Innocent enough question, bu you may want to edit your post before you start some sort of debate complete with flames. It is apparently against the rules and against good taste to reuse mugs from a previous vacation even if they look the same (which apparently they do)......prepare for a tounge lashing!!

polineedyan
04-30-2008, 12:40 PM
i have heard it both ways, that there are mugs patterned after the resorts, and then there is a year of a million dreams mug. They are to be used only at the resort you are staying.:rolleyes:

BKMETV
04-30-2008, 12:45 PM
If we switch resort during the stay can we still use the mugs?

cmc
04-30-2008, 12:45 PM
Does anyone know how much they are?

polineedyan
04-30-2008, 12:47 PM
i think 12.99..dont know about the split stay..would be leaning toward the no on that..:rolleyes1

Amy&Dan
04-30-2008, 12:49 PM
They are $12.49 each I believe. I agree that this thread may get heated and evenutually locked. Basically, no you cannot use your friend's mugs. They plainly state they are for the use of the purchaser for that particular stay only.

The designs are the same for all resorts but Coronado Springs. If you are resort switching during the same stay, I believe that using that same mug from the first resort is fine, someone else may know differently. However, since Disney knows many people do split stays and the fact they now have only one mug design (excpet for CSR) it would seem they are okay with this.

Right now the mugs are Year of a Million Dreams themed, but no year is listed on the mug the way they did in 2007. You can refill them at your resort drink station as many times as you want during your stay. Even though you can't reuse them from previous stays, yours or someone else's, they are a great buy. They have ice tea, coffee, soda (coke products) and at Pop Century they have a frozen coke machine.

We stayed at All Star Music a couple of weeks ago and with tax, four mugs were $53.46 (have the receipt right here as I go about figuring out how much we spent that trip!)

DISNEYNY
04-30-2008, 12:59 PM
You can use the mugs for a split stay at different resorts during the same trip. As stated before it would be frowned upon to bring your friends mugs.

BamaFan121s
04-30-2008, 01:03 PM
ooops..double post.

BamaFan121s
04-30-2008, 01:05 PM
If we switch resort during the stay can we still use the mugs?

Yes.

The mugs all look the same...the light blue YOMD mugs with options of blue, black or silver handles. Regardless of which resort you stay in. They used to have resort specific mugs, but now they are all the same. W/ the exception of Cor. Springs--their food court is not Disney owned.

Yes, you can use your friend's mug, but doing so violates the rules that Disney has in place. Officially, you are only supposed to use the mugs during the stay in which you purchased it. You will be crucified by the self appointed mug police for suggesting or attempting to do otherwise.

ntsammy5
04-30-2008, 01:08 PM
popcorn::

They are all YOAMD mugs now. How would a CM even remotely know where/when it was purchased?

twinnersmama
04-30-2008, 01:24 PM
During our stay last week at POP we bought the mugs - and made good use of them. I saw two ladies trying to decide if they should get them or not. I commented (in front of the cashier) that I thought they were a great deal and you also get a nice souvenier to take home. The cashier said it pays for itself after 6 coffees ... and then she added " and just bring it back with you next time you come." I didn't say anything after that, but was surprised she suggested to bring back next time.

BamaFan121s
04-30-2008, 01:31 PM
The cashier said it pays for itself after 6 coffees ... and then she added " and just bring it back with you next time you come." I didn't say anything after that, but was surprised she suggested to bring back next time.

Either she meant the next time you come to the food court, or it's not as big of a deal to Disney/CMs as it is to many members here. :goodvibes

BKMETV
04-30-2008, 02:44 PM
Thanks for the help...I will definitely be getting them now. I wasn't sure I would if I needed one for each stay.

Ev

minnie61650
04-30-2008, 02:49 PM
Just an FYI:


It has been noted that a few CM's are now approaching guests with old mugs.

From this thread :

http://www.disboards.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=22777691



We witnessed some customers being asked to leave the Beach Club Marketplace because they were using plastic (non WDW) cups at the drink station.

Actually they were asked to leave when they got mouthy with the CMs. The CMs were very nice about asking them not to use the regular plastic cups and pointed out that the drink station was only for those purchasing drinks or using a refillable mug.

The customers got really nasty with the CMs and in the process, it was discovered that they weren't even staying on Disney property! They had left EPCOT and walked to the BC just to get free drinks!

From this thread:

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1721756&page=2

the 2008 ASM don't have the date on them. I purchased one last Feb but it was not the YOAMD 2007 mug, i guess an older style. i do remember a CM question someone about the mug they were using as the design was different. The CM was right at the station doing some refills. For the sake of $12 i will be buying a new one. I don't want to have to hide around. Plus it gives us a souvenir considering we did not get the YOAMD design.



From this thread:

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1503144


Hi, all. My family of four drove from NJ to WDW. We spent our first night, (6/23) at All Star Music - the Jazz Building. We've never been in a value resort before, and were pleasantly surprised. The room was perfectly adequate for my family. I was expecting a shoe-box with a bed. It really wasn't bad at all. The pool was fun - but crowded. The food court was pretty good, but also kind of crowded. My kids enjoyed the large icons and the other children. They showed Pirates of the Caribbean at night, and that was fun! It really was a pleasant surprise for us.

We checked into the Wilderness Lodge on Sunday, 6/24. We got there around 8:30 a.m. - and SURPRISE - our room was ready. We were given room 6157 - inner courtyard room with bunkbeds and a fabulous view of the pool (and bay lake). We were loving it. Our last trip we had room 6145. We were able to view the fireworks from our balcony. The pool was never overly crowded, and there was always a chair available poolside. The kiddie pool was good for my four-year old - however; he liked the adult pool with the life jacket. Roaring Forks was decent, but always crowded.

They did switch over to the new mug design, and I did see the cashiers approach people using the old design.

I wasn't too fond of the food choices (or lack of). And, my 9-year old son can eat more than 4 little chicken tenders since he is almost five feet tall! So, they should re-evaluate the kids menu.

Whispering Canyon was a fun time! We ate there twice for breakfast and once for dinner. The food was really good, and we had a blast. There was always a boat within 10 minutes of us arriving on the dock. We always managed to miss the bus we needed, but never waited more than 15 minutes for the next one. The biggest problem was trying to leave Epcot at night and having to wait for three busses before we could board.

Funny enough, every time I walked through the halls at the Lodge, I always felt like I was the only one there!

Oh, and I received five towel animals during my stay!

Any ?'s, please ask.

RMulieri
04-30-2008, 02:52 PM
Ok.The mugs are now all the same except for CSR.You are not supposed to re-use mugs as techincally they are only for refills during your current stay.refills are only at the resorts, never at the parks.

tmarquez
04-30-2008, 03:02 PM
We went to the All Star Music food court last Sunday and there were people there using all sorts of refillable mugs. Some were the YOMD type, some must have been an older version of the Pop Century mug (they were sort of tye dye looking) and also lots of older versions from other specific resorts that had the resort logo clearly marked on them. Nobody seemed shy about using them (not that it makes it right...just reporting what I've seen), and the CM's didn't care either.

It seems to me that if this truely concerned Disney, they would do away with the refillable mug program.

goofy4tink
04-30-2008, 04:10 PM
Officially, technically...the old mugs were to be used at the resort they were purchased at for the duration of the stay in which they were purchased. There were some mugs, pre-2000, that were sold as good forever at that particular resort at which it was bought. I have a DxL mug (actually 3 of them) that I bought with that understanding.
Now...the mugs are all the same design, with the exception of the CSR mugs. The YOMD design mugs say, on the side of each mug, that they are refillable at our resort beverage stations, for the trip in which they were purchased. I take this to mean that if you buy your mugs at Pop, and then move to the Polynesian, you will be able to reuse those mugs at both resorts.
But....technically/officially...you are not supposed to bring them back next year. Can you? Sure. Many do. Who's to stop you? Probably no one. But, it's called the honor system. I don't particularly care what anyone is doing with their refillable mugs, or where they are doing it at.

cheerforchelsea
04-30-2008, 04:14 PM
Sadly enough I have more Disney mugs than I have nice drinking glasses....

mickaholic4077
05-01-2008, 11:27 AM
Does anyone know what the mugs look like now? We are going to All Star Movies Resort in a few weeks and my friend just went in Jan to Carribean Beach and she said we could use her mugs if they are the same. How much are they and can you fill them up anywhere you want or just at your hotel?


I haven't read all the responses,so this may duplicate someone's. All the mugs sold at the resorts,with the exception of Coronado Springs Resort,are exactly the same. There is no way to tell from the mugs themselves when a person bought the mug. Yes,the rules state that the mug can only be used at the resort at which the mug was purchased for that particular stay,BUT there is no way to tell if you purchased the mug during your stay or the mug was given to you. It is up to you to decide whether or not to use the mugs that your friend wants to give you. If you are leaning toward using your friends mugs,then fine. If you are leaning towards buying your own mugs,that's fine too.

BamaFan121s
05-01-2008, 12:26 PM
Yes,the rules state that the mug can only be used at the resort at which the mug was purchased for that particular stay,.

Actually, you can use them at any of the resorts, not just the one where you bought it. (I'm not sure if CSR would be an exception...?) Again though, only during the trip in which you purchased it, per the rules.

mrbghd
05-01-2008, 01:22 PM
What always gets me when a discussion comes up about using other people's mugs or resuing mugs from old trips. Now hear me out for a minute, if you had a child and they asked you if they could take a candy bar from the store without paying since they had bought one once before what would you say? It always amazes me that people seem to forget the basic pretense of ethics and morals just because its Disney. With that being said I don't care what others do and it is not my job to police them, I do that for a living not on vacation, but we always buy a new mug. Just becasue "everyone is doing it" doesn't mean its the right thing to do. Remember a good person does the right thing even when nobody is looking.

BamaFan121s
05-01-2008, 01:32 PM
What always gets me when a discussion comes up about using other people's mugs or resuing mugs from old trips...

Generally speaking, what gets me is why people are so obsessed with what other people do--I generally focus my attention on having fun when in the World and really could care less who is using what mug. Heck, fill your shoe up w/ Coke for all I care! Let Disney worry about it--that's what their CM's get paid to do! I'm sure if the problem was that big of a deal and there was a need for Mug Police, they would appoint them.

(Wonder why you don't see the same argument and lectures when people mention stocking up on LGMH's at Home Depot in preparation for thier trips...:rolleyes1 )

kaffinito
05-01-2008, 01:41 PM
What always gets me when a discussion comes up about using other people's mugs or resuing mugs from old trips. Now hear me out for a minute, if you had a child and they asked you if they could take a candy bar from the store without paying since they had bought one once before what would you say? It always amazes me that people seem to forget the basic pretense of ethics and morals just because its Disney. With that being said I don't care what others do and it is not my job to police them, I do that for a living not on vacation, but we always buy a new mug. Just becasue "everyone is doing it" doesn't mean its the right thing to do. Remember a good person does the right thing even when nobody is looking.

I completely agree with you! When we go in Sept I am buying a new refillable mug. I don't give a hoot what some others do, the only person I see when I look in the mirror is myself. The desire to cheat and to save some extra $$ - is there for all of us I think, especially when we could save some money for some Disney loot - but I feel guilty when I do things like that. Its easier for me to do the right thing than the wrong thing.

Of course, if they do offer the "refills for life" mugs again, it would be worth the extra $$ to get one, wouldn't it? I spoke with a very nice lady last year at POR who was rightly proud of her DL mug. Lucky duck! :)

kaffinito
05-01-2008, 01:43 PM
(Wonder why you don't see the same argument and lectures when people mention stocking up on LGMH's at Home Depot in preparation for thier trips... )

Ok - I have to ask even though I know I'll be sorry later. What's a LGMH????

TIA
Karen

Forget it- I found it - You people are freaking kidding me right? Swiping paint swatches from Home Depot so you can make Lime Green Mickey Heads?????? Oh, no - I think its worse than I thought - the paint samples are already in the shape of Mickey Heads, aren't they? :)

BamaFan121s
05-01-2008, 01:53 PM
[QUOTE=kaffinito;24852694Ok - I have to ask even though I know I'll be sorry later. What's a LGMH????
[/QUOTE]

Ha ha ha--Lime Green Mickey Head. The official symbol for DISers. Many people sport them or decorate their room windows with them. Kind of a way for DISers to recognize each other in the parks. People tie them to strollers, backpacks, etc.
I'm not sure what the 'protocol' for them is these days, but I know for a while people used the Dinsey paint color samples in "Alien Green" to accomplish this and would 'stock up' on them at Home Depot before going to the parks.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=22772262#post22772262&highlight=lgmh

Snuffy5
05-01-2008, 01:55 PM
I also am wondering what a LGMH is at Home Depot.:confused:
We are booked for CSR in August for 5 nights~8am flight home. Is it worth it to buy 4 mugs for my family of 4 or should we just buy 2 mugs.
Now before anyone gets all worked up, let me explain. I can only see myself & my husband using our mugs in the am for coffee and then my girls would use them for lemonade and such later in the day.
You can't use the mugs anywhere else, correct? Since we are going to spend all our time in the parks really would it be worth it to buy 4 or just 2 and share?
Thank you!:)

kaffinito
05-01-2008, 01:56 PM
Ha ha ha--Lime Green Mickey Head. The official symbol for DISers. Many people sport them or decorate their room windows with them. Kind of a way for DISers to recognize each other in the parks. People tie them to strollers, backpacks, etc.
I'm not sure what the 'protocol' for them is these days, but I know for a while people used the Dinsey paint color samples in "Alien Green" to accomplish this and would 'stock up' on them at Home Depot before going to the parks.

Thanks! I knew I'd be sorry for asking!!! I think I have a new Disney art project for my 8 year old.... :lmao:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Karen :flower3:

Paparazzimama
05-01-2008, 02:14 PM
I also am wondering what a LGMH is at Home Depot.:confused:
We are booked for CSR in August for 5 nights~8am flight home. Is it worth it to buy 4 mugs for my family of 4 or should we just buy 2 mugs.
Now before anyone gets all worked up, let me explain. I can only see myself & my husband using our mugs in the am for coffee and then my girls would use them for lemonade and such later in the day.
You can't use the mugs anywhere else, correct? Since we are going to spend all our time in the parks really would it be worth it to buy 4 or just 2 and share?
Thank you!:)

Our Thanksgiving '07 trip we just bought 2 of the refillable mugs (we have 2 children also). I never even had the slightest inclination that I was cheating the system. Even after your question arose, I still didn't! :goodvibes I'm sure I am opening myself up for a dis-attack but oh well. I can't see spending over $50 on 4 mugs when we only spent about 3 hours awake at our resort each day. I have, and will again only buy 2 mugs for my family of 4. :goodvibes

LilGMom
05-01-2008, 02:54 PM
Sadly enough I have more Disney mugs than I have nice drinking glasses....

What do you mean? Those are our nice drinking glasses. :goodvibes

minnie61650
05-01-2008, 02:57 PM
....Generally speaking, what gets me is why people are so obsessed with what other people do--I generally focus my attention on having fun when in the World and really could care less who is using what mug. Heck, fill your shoe up w/ Coke for all I care!............

How about filling a shoe up with Mickey ice cream bars? Or filling a shoe up with Disney pins?

sillyguys
05-01-2008, 03:14 PM
I have to admit that I'm new to the entire refillable mug concept as we have never done it. But I do find these discussions very amusing to say the least. Anyway, if I purchase a refillable mug, can I fill it with coffee each day from one of the coffee machines? I know that Gaspi's at the GF has a coffee machine that makes lattes. Can I fill it up with that?

kaffinito
05-01-2008, 03:38 PM
I just know about the food courts. I'm a coffeholic - so I only get one mug. The kids don't drink that much pop, so we only need the one mug for the three of us. I think on our last trip, I put pop in there once....

You could always ask on the GF thread? You can find the links to the resort faqs boards on the first page of this board - fourth one down I think...

I have to ask about WL on their thread too. One cup of room coffee in the morning is just not going to work.....

Karen :flower3:

CR Resort Fan 4 Life
05-01-2008, 04:23 PM
Actually, you can use them at any of the resorts, not just the one where you bought it. (I'm not sure if CSR would be an exception...?) Again though, only during the trip in which you purchased it, per the rules.Others have said that is true about not being able using the Year of a Million Dream mugs at CSR, because their dining locations are not owned by WDW. So because of that they still sell the CSR logo mugs.

Stinky_Pete
05-01-2008, 04:32 PM
(Wonder why you don't see the same argument and lectures when people mention stocking up on LGMH's at Home Depot in preparation for thier trips...:rolleyes1 )

Because it's not Disney! Somehow some people think it's worse to "steal" (their word) from Disney by filling a mug at a resort other than where purchased, even on the same trip, than to "steal" from Home Depot (or elsewhere).

minnie61650
05-01-2008, 05:04 PM
...... Somehow some people think it's worse to "steal" (their word) from Disney by filling a mug at a resort other than where purchased, even on the same trip,.......

Just an FYI

The signage for the refillable mugs has changed indicating the new policy will allow guests to refill the mugs at any of the resort refill stations during the same trip:
The old signs said the mug could only be used at the resort where puchased during the stay.


OLD sign:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/minnie61650/refillmugsign.jpg

NEW sign:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a175/minnie61650/cbrconstructiondec07_1278.jpg

goofy4tink
05-01-2008, 05:10 PM
Is it stealing to reuse your refillable mugs? Technically, I guess so. But to equate it with filling your shoe with Mickey bars or with pins isn't quite the same thing. Try to walk out of that pin store, with your shoe (or refill mug for that matter) full of pins. Ain't gonna work friends. You will be stopped. It's called shoplifting...it's against the law. The CMs will stop you. So....now you've returned to WDW, to the Polynesian, for your 8th stay on-site. You sashay up to the beverage station, and fill up your POP mug from 2002. Wrong? Technically, yes. But, will a CM stop you? Most likely not.

If, and when, Disney starts to care about refillable mug abuse (aka reuse), they will institute a system that prohibits the reuse, unless allowable under the new system. They could issue bar code stickers...you could reuse the same mug forever..just pay a bit each trip for that bar code sticker and you're good to go. That's one option. But, until Disney starts enforcing their own refillable mug rule (as written on the side of each and every mug sold), then I guess it's up to each family to decide what works for them.
Me? I tend to buy new ones each trip. I do have a POP mug from Jan that is going back with me in Sept, but I still have to buy two more!

minnie61650
05-01-2008, 06:06 PM
..........
If, and when, Disney starts to care about refillable mug abuse (aka reuse), they will institute a system that prohibits the reuse, unless allowable under the new system. They could issue bar code stickers...you could reuse the same mug forever..just pay a bit each trip for that bar code sticker and you're good to go. !

The Sentinal did report in 2002 that WDW was going to put bar codes on their resort refill mugs .
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From this Mouseplanet.com websiteJune,2002:

http://www.mouseplanet.com/mike/ref...icy_changes.htm

In an effort to rein in costs and increase income, the Walt Disney World Resort hotels are making some drastic changes to the extremely popular refillable mug program that may affect many repeat visitors to the resort.




According to an article in the Orlando Sentinel entitled "32 ounces of soda not enough? Disney tries out self-serve refills," Walt Disney World is making large 32-ounce soft drink mugs available for free self-serve refills in Typhoon Lagoon. That's the good news. The bad news is that you can only refill your mug on the day of purchase. If you return to Typhoon Lagoon the next day, you can no longer refill your mug for free.

Disney has added a new UPC bar coding system to the self-serve refill stations that, for the first time, controls a previously unenforced policy. [I]Although the refillable mug program has always been advertised as available during an actual length of stay that allows guests to refill their mugs during their trip, in reality, guests often brought their mugs back on subsequent trips to refill them free of charge. With the UPC code tied to a guest's hotel reservation, this new system closes this loophole altogether. That is, once your stay has ended, your mug is no longer refillable. Those mugs you bought on previous visits won't work next time you vacation at WDW.
Another loophole that may close with this new system is that you might not be able to use your mug at any other resort except at the one you are staying. For example, if you stay at one of the resorts for a few days and purchase a mug there, and then you move over to another resort for the balance of your vacation, the mug might not be refillable at the second resort.How will this new system be enforced? Once the UPC code system is fully activated, they can devise a system by which the fountains work only if an "active" UPC code is on the mug.

WDW visitors are already complaining that the new system is yet another line to stand in and just "more time-consuming nonsense cutting into [one's] vacation time."

Did you recently visit WDW and see this change in practice? If you have any first-hand knowledge or experience, please email me or Brian Bennett at brian@mouseplanet.com to provide us with more details.

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Here is another article written in June 2002:

http://www.theshiftedlibrarian.com/2002/06/24.html

Disney Mug Holders, Beware

"The new system of computerized monitoring of fountain refills being experimented with at Typhoon Lagoon could tighten a rather loose policy at Disney's resorts. They sell 16-ounce souvenir mugs for $9.99.

Guests may refill them at resort snack bars unlimited times with soda, coffee or tea for the length of their stay. Cashiers sell the mugs and then are supposed to keep a watchful eye as guests get their own refills.

But some Disney World employees and regular guests say they take the mugs on repeat visits to the snack bars and fill up -- basically a lifetime of free drinks for one purchase. They are occasionally offered on eBay and at garage sales, testimony to their timeless value.

Cashiers say the mugs' designs aren't changed enough for them to spot old ones. But the new system being tried at Typhoon Lagoon employs a bar code that's read electronically at the drink dispenser and recognizes old mugs." [Orlando Sentinel, via Boing Boing]

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And another from June 2002:

From this website:

http://www.intercot.com/news/2002/june.asp

News Archive - June 2002

June 27, 2002


Refillable Mug Policy Tightening?
According to the Orlando Sentinel, Disney is experimenting with a new computerized barcode system to be used in tandem with it's refillable mug program offered at their resorts. The program allows guests to buy a mug for each person in their party which then can be used for unlimited drink refills during their stay. The policy change could come as a result of Guests taking the mugs on repeat visits to Disney World to fill up on what becomes basically a lifetime of free drinks for one purchase.

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Just my 2 cents.

BamaFan121s
05-01-2008, 06:07 PM
Because it's not Disney! Somehow some people think it's worse to "steal" (their word) from Disney by filling a mug at a resort other than where purchased, even on the same trip, than to "steal" from Home Depot (or elsewhere).

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! Exactly my point.:rotfl:

BamaFan121s
05-01-2008, 06:08 PM
But, until Disney starts enforcing their own refillable mug rule (as written on the side of each and every mug sold), then I guess it's up to each family to decide what works for them.

What? You mean not let the Mug Police make their decision for them? And everyone worry about themselves and not what others are doing? What a concept.:banana:

CR Resort Fan 4 Life
05-01-2008, 06:11 PM
The Sentinal did report in 2002 that WDW was going to put bar codes on their resort refill mugs .
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From this Mouseplanet.com websiteJune,2002:

http://www.mouseplanet.com/mike/ref...icy_changes.htm

In an effort to rein in costs and increase income, the Walt Disney World Resort hotels are making some drastic changes to the extremely popular refillable mug program that may affect many repeat visitors to the resort.




According to an article in the Orlando Sentinel entitled "32 ounces of soda not enough? Disney tries out self-serve refills," Walt Disney World is making large 32-ounce soft drink mugs available for free self-serve refills in Typhoon Lagoon. That's the good news. The bad news is that you can only refill your mug on the day of purchase. If you return to Typhoon Lagoon the next day, you can no longer refill your mug for free.

Disney has added a new UPC bar coding system to the self-serve refill stations that, for the first time, controls a previously unenforced policy. [I]Although the refillable mug program has always been advertised as available during an actual length of stay that allows guests to refill their mugs during their trip, in reality, guests often brought their mugs back on subsequent trips to refill them free of charge. With the UPC code tied to a guest's hotel reservation, this new system closes this loophole altogether. That is, once your stay has ended, your mug is no longer refillable. Those mugs you bought on previous visits won't work next time you vacation at WDW.
Another loophole that may close with this new system is that you might not be able to use your mug at any other resort except at the one you are staying. For example, if you stay at one of the resorts for a few days and purchase a mug there, and then you move over to another resort for the balance of your vacation, the mug might not be refillable at the second resort.How will this new system be enforced? Once the UPC code system is fully activated, they can devise a system by which the fountains work only if an "active" UPC code is on the mug.

WDW visitors are already complaining that the new system is yet another line to stand in and just "more time-consuming nonsense cutting into [one's] vacation time."

Did you recently visit WDW and see this change in practice? If you have any first-hand knowledge or experience, please email me or Brian Bennett at brian@mouseplanet.com to provide us with more details.

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Here is another article written in June 2002:

http://www.theshiftedlibrarian.com/2002/06/24.html

Disney Mug Holders, Beware

"The new system of computerized monitoring of fountain refills being experimented with at Typhoon Lagoon could tighten a rather loose policy at Disney's resorts. They sell 16-ounce souvenir mugs for $9.99.

Guests may refill them at resort snack bars unlimited times with soda, coffee or tea for the length of their stay. Cashiers sell the mugs and then are supposed to keep a watchful eye as guests get their own refills.

But some Disney World employees and regular guests say they take the mugs on repeat visits to the snack bars and fill up -- basically a lifetime of free drinks for one purchase. They are occasionally offered on eBay and at garage sales, testimony to their timeless value.

Cashiers say the mugs' designs aren't changed enough for them to spot old ones. But the new system being tried at Typhoon Lagoon employs a bar code that's read electronically at the drink dispenser and recognizes old mugs." [Orlando Sentinel, via Boing Boing]

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And another from June 2002:

From this website:

http://www.intercot.com/news/2002/june.asp

News Archive - June 2002

June 27, 2002


Refillable Mug Policy Tightening?
According to the Orlando Sentinel, Disney is experimenting with a new computerized barcode system to be used in tandem with it's refillable mug program offered at their resorts. The program allows guests to buy a mug for each person in their party which then can be used for unlimited drink refills during their stay. The policy change could come as a result of Guests taking the mugs on repeat visits to Disney World to fill up on what becomes basically a lifetime of free drinks for one purchase.

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Just my 2 cents.While it is true the Orlando Sentinal and the other sites you mention did report this about the bar codes at the Resorts and the water parks which they are using at Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon, obviously it did not work at the Resorts for whatever the reasons were. Since these articles were written in 2002 and now that it's 2008, I think if they were planning on trying the bar codes again at the Resorts they would have done that already. Now that's just my opinion so if you disagree me that is your choice.

mickaholic4077
05-01-2008, 07:16 PM
While it is true the Orlando Sentinal and the other sites you mention did report this about the bar codes at the Resorts and the water parks which they are using at Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon, obviously it did not work at the Resorts for whatever the reasons were. Since these articles were written in 2002 and now that it's 2008, I think if they were planning on trying the bar codes again at the Resorts they would have done that already. Now that's just my opinion so if you disagree me that is your choice.


OMG!!! I actually agree with you on something!!! I guess it is true that great minds do think alike.

ntsammy5
05-01-2008, 09:17 PM
OMG!!! I actually agree with you on something!!! I guess it is true that great minds do think alike.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Deb & Bill
05-01-2008, 11:28 PM
Because it's not Disney! Somehow some people think it's worse to "steal" (their word) from Disney by filling a mug at a resort other than where purchased, even on the same trip, than to "steal" from Home Depot (or elsewhere).

I thought stealing was stealing. Whether it's LGMH's from Home Depot or soda from the beverage station.

Stinky_Pete
05-02-2008, 12:14 PM
I thought stealing was stealing. Whether it's LGMH's from Home Depot or soda from the beverage station.

Well, to you and I and others it is. But evidently everyone does not think that way.

minnie61650
05-02-2008, 01:19 PM
I thought stealing was stealing. Whether it's LGMH's from Home Depot or soda from the beverage station.

Well, to you and I and others it is. But evidently everyone does not think that way.




I agree

I made my own Green Mickey heads.
Here is a creative Mickey head thread on the DIS:

LGMH's to resize and print

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1810319


Also if you become a bronze or better DIS sponsor the DIS will send you 2 DIS pins.
I enjoy wearing mine when we go to the parks.

This is a photo of a DIS pin:

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Here is the website if you think you might want to become a DIS sponsor:

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goofy4tink
05-02-2008, 01:23 PM
I thought stealing was stealing. Whether it's LGMH's from Home Depot or soda from the beverage station.
Welllll, I did actually paint my dd's room the same color as the lgmh's!!! It just took me a long time to decide...yeah, about 3 years!! But, I finally did buy the paint...so it wasn't really 'stealing'...it just takes a long time for me to choose..and I kept losing the paint chips so had to go back for more!!!


I have to say....now, with the policy the way it is, the mugs work pretty well. I like that I can buy one for a split stay..that was my big hangup. Hated buying one at POP and then one from my DVC resort. Criminy...I have 3 from DxL, 3 from POR, 2 from BC, 3 from Polynesian, 2 AllStarMusic, 3 POP, 1 TL!!! I so don't need anymore. I almost wish they would institute a bar code system. But, it would be breaking down all the time I'm sure.

minnie61650
05-02-2008, 01:37 PM
....I have to say....now, with the policy the way it is, the mugs work pretty well. I like that I can buy one for a split stay..that was my big hangup. Hated buying one at POP and then one from my DVC resort. Criminy...I have 3 from DxL, 3 from POR, 2 from BC, 3 from Polynesian, 2 AllStarMusic, 3 POP, 1 TL!!! I so don't need anymore. I almost wish they would institute a bar code system. But, it would be breaking down all the time I'm sure.


I also like that guests with split stays do not have to buy new mugs.
That was my first thought when WDW switched to the universal mug.
The resort only rule was too costly for families who wanted to follow the rules but also wanted a split stay.

I have given the bar code idea a lot of thought.
It works fine for the water parks because guests need to buy a new one each day they go to a waterpark ,but guests on adverage only go to the water parks once or twice a trip.

At the present time the bar codes and machine readers are changed daily.

So until WDW could figure a lenght of stay barcode guests would need to buy a new bar code every day.

Many guests like being able to get up in the morning, grab their mug, make a quick stop at the food court for a quick refill before hitting the bus stop.

Imagine if those same guests had to take their mugs and stand in line every day to buy a new bar code.

I think there would be many unhappy guests.

JMHO

CR Resort Fan 4 Life
05-02-2008, 02:31 PM
Many guests like being able to get up in the morning, grab their mug, make a quick stop at the food court for a quick refill before hitting the bus stop.

Imagine if those same guests had to take their mugs and stand in line every day to buy a new bar code.

I think there would be many unhappy guests.

JMHOThat could be one reason why having the bar code system in place at the Resorts would not work, because it sounds like a huge inconvenience to the guests.

ntsammy5
05-02-2008, 03:05 PM
At the present time the bar codes and machine readers are changed daily.


If Disney had ANY concerns about refillable mugs, it would be very, very easy to come up with a solution to this -- such as making each bar code good for 30 days from date of purchase. After the 30-day period, longer than most visits, drinks would no longer be dispensed.

This is only a problem on the boards, Disney obviously could not care less or they would address the situation. I doubt that more than a fraction of a percent of these mugs ever shows up at the resorts again. Personally, I couldn't be bothered bringing them back again. For those few people who do, bon apitite!

popcorn::

tiggersmom2
05-02-2008, 03:09 PM
This is only a problem on the boards, Disney obviously could not care less or they would address the situation.



Exactly!:thumbsup2

magic mouse
05-02-2008, 03:40 PM
I can't beleive this thread is still open.................... I have been bring the same mugs down since they started the refillable mug program.................... Disney CMS don't care. Bring your mugs back and have fun on your trip!

Amy&Dan
05-02-2008, 04:05 PM
Yeah I am surprised too that this one is still going. In the end, I agree, Disney probably doesn't care or they would find some way to police the whole issue. Its more of a disboards thing. The vast majority of WDW guests don't know about disboards, pool hopping, mug reuse and abuse, and proceed to buy the mugs, use them and then throw them away or leave them in their room.

I also agree that in theory, its wrong to steal. There are certainly creative ways to justify and crucify people on their choices. In the end, you have to do what you think is right.

I'll confess, once I did a split stay (actually three resorts in 10 days) and I had one night at All Star Music. I reused my Pop mug from earlier in the trip at the ASMU drink station for one diet coke. I justfied my criminal behavior (hey, stealing is stealing my mom told me so) by saying that I was okay to do this since earlier that day Boardwalk had managed to lose my luggage during the transfer. They did find my luggage by the way. I am now thrilled that they have one mug, we split stay almost every trip so that's a nice thing for my family.

In the end, I enjoy these fascinating threads, post on them, generally state its not allowed and then laugh at my own two faced answer since I myself did a mug reuse abuse a few years ago. I wouldn't have thought much about it but since I am a disboarder I expected any minute for someone to pop out and say "HEY AMY&DAN, YOU KNOW BETTER YOU ARE SO CAUGHT IN THE ACT" I literally slunk over, cased the joint out and felt just like I did the day I forged my mom's signature on a fake note excusing me from gym!

minnie61650
05-02-2008, 05:09 PM
.....If Disney had ANY concerns about refillable mugs, it would be very, very easy to come up with a solution to this -- such as making each bar code good for 30 days from date of purchase. After the 30-day period, longer than most visits, drinks would no longer be dispensed.

popcorn::

At this time the 30 day idea will not work for everyone.
The machine readings have to match the bar code.
If they changed the machine readings and the bar codes on the 1st of every month what happens to the family who bought the mug on the 28th and is staying for 10 days?

Their mugs will be locked out after 4 days.

It just is not as simple as we may think.

iuki
05-02-2008, 05:52 PM
Well, to you and I and others it is. But evidently everyone does not think that way.

Although I agree with you, I believe that if you were to take a poll on the disboards, you would find that we are in the minority. I found that out when I said that children jumping on beds at hotels is not appropriate behavior. I was raked over the coals by some posters. I was made out to be an ogre. :scared1:

Just because the CMs don't enforce the rules, doesn't mean that Disney (as a business) doesn't care. It comes down to profit or loss. Guess why the cups cost so much more than they did a year ago? :rolleyes1

Cruise ships charge $6 per day to have unlimited soda. Disney is cheap by comparison.

However, topics like these appear to be a moot point on disboards. :confused3

iuki