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old lady
04-25-2008, 04:18 PM
Is there a live action or cartoon version of this cartoon ?Is there one in the works?
CanadianGuy
04-25-2008, 08:28 PM
None of the usual sources (IMDB/HSX.com) list anything in development or production for theatrical release ...
That doesn't mean it isn't happening.. but it's a good indicator that not much has been done if it IS in the works..
Or more likely.. it's not in the works at all.
harmonium
04-26-2008, 08:57 AM
I've heard nothing of a KP movie other than the hopes of other fans.
Disney is really funny about KP. First the pumped it up as a Disney Channel Original and it was a hit. Then they canceled it at the end of season 3 when it was still doing well. Then Disney brought it back after being petitioned by fans. During season 4 the schedule was never consistent and promos were non-existent after the first few weeks. The creators allegedly were fed up with Disney and decided to stop production after season 4.
BUT, you can still wait on a long line for a meet and greet with KP and Ron in DHS. :confused3
I think that there is still life left in the KP franchise for a movie, but considering the handling of the program up to this point I doubt Disney feels the same way.
yitbos96bb
04-26-2008, 12:06 PM
I've heard nothing of a KP movie other than the hopes of other fans.
Disney is really funny about KP. First the pumped it up as a Disney Channel Original and it was a hit. Then they canceled it at the end of season 3 when it was still doing well. Then Disney brought it back after being petitioned by fans. During season 4 the schedule was never consistent and promos were non-existent after the first few weeks. The creators allegedly were fed up with Disney and decided to stop production after season 4.
BUT, you can still wait on a long line for a meet and greet with KP and Ron in DHS. :confused3
I think that there is still life left in the KP franchise for a movie, but considering the handling of the program up to this point I doubt Disney feels the same way.
Proves that there are some Disney higher ups that DON"T KNOW WHAT THE HECK THEY ARE DOING!!!
The fact they won't release Song of the South is an example... as for KP it was killed at the end of Season 3 because it hit 53 episodes... which for some idiotic reason is the time when Disney ends it original series... Doug, Lizzie McGuire, Even Stevens, Proud Family, etc. KP was the first exception.
DC7800
04-26-2008, 01:16 PM
Proves that there are some Disney higher ups that DON"T KNOW WHAT THE HECK THEY ARE DOING!!!
As if we needed more proof of that!
CoolTrainerTerry
04-26-2008, 04:15 PM
... as for KP it was killed at the end of Season 3 because it hit 53 episodes... which for some idiotic reason is the time when Disney ends it original series... Doug, Lizzie McGuire, Even Stevens, Proud Family, etc. KP was the first exception.
Actually, it was 64(?) episodes, and That's So Raven and Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: The Series were carried on after the episode limit before.
doconeill
04-26-2008, 07:20 PM
THe 60-something episode thing always struck me as a myth. Yes, it seems unusual that a lot of DC series don't seem to last more than a few seasons. But you don't shoot a champion race horse because of how many races it's won. But there COULD be something to it. I'm not up on typical TV contracts with actors, but it could be that a standard contract on a new show includes a lock in for the first three years. After three years, they get to renegotiate - and the production costs skyrocket. I know there is typically a "sequel" clause in some movie contracts, where the actors agree to appear in two sequels for a predetermined amount of money if they get produced...
And didn't Hillary Duff quit the show? I remember something about that...maybe Disney wouldn't promote her musical career enough - which seems to be another standard thing for Disney to do with its young stars...
harmonium
04-27-2008, 02:46 PM
THe 60-something episode thing always struck me as a myth. Yes, it seems unusual that a lot of DC series don't seem to last more than a few seasons. But you don't shoot a champion race horse because of how many races it's won. But there COULD be something to it. I'm not up on typical TV contracts with actors, but it could be that a standard contract on a new show includes a lock in for the first three years. After three years, they get to renegotiate - and the production costs skyrocket. I know there is typically a "sequel" clause in some movie contracts, where the actors agree to appear in two sequels for a predetermined amount of money if they get produced...
And didn't Hillary Duff quit the show? I remember something about that...maybe Disney wouldn't promote her musical career enough - which seems to be another standard thing for Disney to do with its young stars...
Hillary Duff? Are you referring to Lizzie McGuire? I never watched the program, but there were apparently 65 episodes when it ended in 2004. I checked TV.com to get the number of episodes. I'm not sure why that show ended and I forget where I read about the Eisner issued death of a program at the 65 episode mark. It was to keep the channel fresh, but it didn't work too well with KP. There is more info on the whole 65 episode thing at http://kp.savedisneyshows.org/
CanadianGuy
04-27-2008, 03:03 PM
Having lived and worked in Hollywood for a period of time -- I wonder if there is not some 'contract rule' that comes into play for the magic 65 episode rule.
Specifically if residual payments don't increase beyond that magic number or something... or maybe residuals come due for certain below-the-line participants or something odd like that.
I'd almost bet there is some arcane union rule at the root of all this.. and not just Eisner's 'keep it fresh' rumor.
I do know that 60 some odd episodes USED to be the minimum for syndication.. that seems to have fallen by the wayside to a degree.
fan of the TTA
04-27-2008, 03:10 PM
if there ever was a KP moovie, i would want to see it. i love the show
yitbos96bb
04-27-2008, 07:39 PM
Having lived and worked in Hollywood for a period of time -- I wonder if there is not some 'contract rule' that comes into play for the magic 65 episode rule.
Specifically if residual payments don't increase beyond that magic number or something... or maybe residuals come due for certain below-the-line participants or something odd like that.
I'd almost bet there is some arcane union rule at the root of all this.. and not just Eisner's 'keep it fresh' rumor.
I do know that 60 some odd episodes USED to be the minimum for syndication.. that seems to have fallen by the wayside to a degree.
I'm not sure, but knowing Eisner, him cheaping out the actors would make the MOST sense.
yitbos96bb
04-27-2008, 07:57 PM
Actually, it was 64(?) episodes, and That's So Raven and Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: The Series were carried on after the episode limit before.
A couple of Corrections:
1) You are right Raven was announced before Kim... And Raven was the first because...
2) Honey I shrunk the Kids was a syndicated show to start and NOT considered a Disney Channel Original Series. It later moved to the Disney Channel. So it doesn't count in this situation. And just FTR, It ONLY did 66 episodes according to what I could fine... so pretty much right there. :-)
Apparently though 65 isn't a hard and fast rule but more a rule of thumb for them to end series.
http://savedisneyshows.org/65/index.php
So it isn't a rule, but STILL seems like the height of stupidity.
Heck Lilo and Stitch could have gone on for 625 episodes alone :-)
doconeill
04-27-2008, 08:00 PM
It used to be that the magic number for syndication was "3" - three full seasons to produce enough shows that they could by syndicated and "stripped" - shown five days a week. It used to be that amounted to 78 episodes - 26 per season. That number has dropped to 22 more recently as the standard, and its not uncommon to have even less.
So it seems reasonable the contracts would also use 3 as the magic number.
As for Hillary Duff/Lizzie McGuire, I did find this (http://www.cabletvtalk.com/showthread.php?t=18) - basically it says that Disney wanted to move the show to ABC after the third year, and Duff wanted a huge pay increase - which indicates that her contract must have been up for renegotiation.
It also says production halted after 65 episodes - "a customary number for popular children's shows." Not sure where that came from. The odd number almost seems like it is to avoid 66 episodes - which would mean they completed 3 full 22-episode seasons. Now I wonder if that triggers something in some contracts...
doconeill
04-27-2008, 08:14 PM
Ah...I did figure out one thing that makes 65 so special - It allows stripping the show 5 days a week for 13 weeks, evenly - and in a 52 week year, the show would be repeated exactly 4 times - which would make program scheduling more predictable.
harmonium
04-28-2008, 09:57 AM
Ah...I did figure out one thing that makes 65 so special - It allows stripping the show 5 days a week for 13 weeks, evenly - and in a 52 week year, the show would be repeated exactly 4 times - which would make program scheduling more predictable.
It's all in the algorithm.
Who do you think would make a good KP in a live action movie? I have heard the opinion that Jim Carrey would make a good Drakken and I agree.
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