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Jasonbobdude
04-13-2008, 07:01 PM
I've thought a bit about if Sulake has anything to do with VMK closing. Some people have said maybe Disney and Sulake had a contract that is expiring, which would make sense considering that they are saying things like "VMK has lasted longer than we planned" and things like that. I wrote one letter to Sulake a few days simply asking for information about the closing and I have yet to get a response. I was wondering if anyone else has written to them. The website/email addresses for Sulake are:

http://www.sulake.com
info@sulake.com

Pirate-Emery
04-13-2008, 07:21 PM
This is the Mittelwork to the Hanso Foundation.

mikeyandscoobyx2
04-13-2008, 07:33 PM
Master Waffles, this is probably the only post I will ever see from you about being serious! :lmao:

Jasonbobdude
04-13-2008, 07:40 PM
Master Waffles, this is probably the only post I will ever see from you about being serious! :lmao:

I worked very hard on it! :thumbsup2

mikeyandscoobyx2
04-13-2008, 07:44 PM
I worked very hard on it! :thumbsup2

:lmao: :rotfl:

anya.sparrow
04-13-2008, 07:44 PM
I too have been looking at the Sulake side of things; however, I would think that Disney would not be stupid and would have lawyered-up at the beginning of their venture with Sulake and maintained all rights to the name "VMK" and everything else that made the game part of the Disney-magic.


Of course, Disney could have been stupid. They are stupid in their decision to shut down VMK after all. ;)

vmkfan13
04-13-2008, 07:53 PM
Sulake created VMK then pretty much left it for Disney to take control, I'm guessing?

Candlz
04-13-2008, 08:47 PM
This is the Mittelwork to the Hanso Foundation.

Great - now I am sad about VMK and I miss LOST - tyvm

:rotfl:

Bugdozer
04-13-2008, 09:05 PM
Sulake created VMK then pretty much left it for Disney to take control, I'm guessing?

From my understanding Disney owns VMK but Sulake owns the "engine" (coding) that the site runs off of. Disney owns all the copyrights graphics so on. Kind of like Disney owning the car body and Sulake owning the engine-need both for the car to work properly.

Bug

Pirate-Emery
04-13-2008, 09:08 PM
Great - now I am sad about VMK and I miss LOST - tyvm

:rotfl:

Your welcome. :thumbsup2

What I meant was that Sulake is a puppet organization for Disney, much like Mittelwork is to the Hanso Foundation.

anya.sparrow
04-13-2008, 09:45 PM
*cough* see community board for my news about Lost *cough*

Back on VMK topic, people :)

Oh, and Pirate-Emery? I saw you at that other site again ;) I like Grey's Anatomy btw rofl

tinkryansmom
04-14-2008, 01:59 AM
Just looked through the Sulake website and found this little jewel:

Par teams with Habbo for promos
January 29, 2008 Paramount Pictures Digital Entertainment and Habbo, the teen-centric virtual world, have inked a deal to create and merchandize virtual goods based on at least three of the studio's films. Habbo has 1.8 million North American teens among its 8 million-strong global community and in the coming months will introduce a number of Paramount-licensed virtual accessories, including themed virtual clothing and furniture. Timo Soininen, CEO of Habbo's parent company Sulake, noted that individual musicians, actors and entertainment properties have appearanced in Habbo in the past.

Wow! That Paramount is BRILLIANT!! Create and merchandize virtual goods based on upcoming studio films!! Virtual accessories, clothing AND furniture. Now that is pure marketing genius.

And who wants to tell me the VMK business model doesn't make any profit?? OK so what is there next excuse??

Pirate-Emery
04-14-2008, 02:03 AM
Oh, and Pirate-Emery? I saw you at that other site again ;) I like Grey's Anatomy btw rofl

We don't speak about that site. Namely, because there is no filter: there is no Aengus looking at me funny over there. ;)

:rolleyes1

Kasiks
04-14-2008, 02:19 AM
I wrote to Sulake too, asking if they could give me any informations concerning a game called VMK and I got no reply -_-

moikturtle
04-14-2008, 08:32 AM
Just looked through the Sulake website and found this little jewel:

Par teams with Habbo for promos
January 29, 2008 Paramount Pictures Digital Entertainment and Habbo, the teen-centric virtual world, have inked a deal to create and merchandize virtual goods based on at least three of the studio's films. Habbo has 1.8 million North American teens among its 8 million-strong global community and in the coming months will introduce a number of Paramount-licensed virtual accessories, including themed virtual clothing and furniture. Timo Soininen, CEO of Habbo's parent company Sulake, noted that individual musicians, actors and entertainment properties have appearanced in Habbo in the past.

Wow! That Paramount is BRILLIANT!! Create and merchandize virtual goods based on upcoming studio films!! Virtual accessories, clothing AND furniture. Now that is pure marketing genius.

And who wants to tell me the VMK business model doesn't make any profit?? OK so what is there next excuse??

Hmm. Now, seeing that story it makes me really wonder if it really IS all a contract thing. Why would they start signing deals with Paramount if they still had contracts with Disney? The timing seems to work out that things are ending with Disney just as they're starting with Paramount. Iiiiinteresting....

cteddiesgirl
04-14-2008, 08:41 AM
Just looked through the Sulake website and found this little jewel:

Par teams with Habbo for promos
January 29, 2008 Paramount Pictures Digital Entertainment and Habbo, the teen-centric virtual world, have inked a deal to create and merchandize virtual goods based on at least three of the studio's films. Habbo has 1.8 million North American teens among its 8 million-strong global community and in the coming months will introduce a number of Paramount-licensed virtual accessories, including themed virtual clothing and furniture. Timo Soininen, CEO of Habbo's parent company Sulake, noted that individual musicians, actors and entertainment properties have appearanced in Habbo in the past.

Wow! That Paramount is BRILLIANT!! Create and merchandize virtual goods based on upcoming studio films!! Virtual accessories, clothing AND furniture. Now that is pure marketing genius.

And who wants to tell me the VMK business model doesn't make any profit?? OK so what is there next excuse??

Yep. Disney has just failed to market and capitalize as much as they could on VMK.

moikturtle
04-14-2008, 06:46 PM
Yep. Disney has just failed to market and capitalize as much as they could on VMK.

I'm not trying to bash Disney or anything, but they definitely have a long history of doing just that. I really think they need to rethink who they have dealing with marketing and promotions. If not for the fact that they generally have things in the bag simply because of name recognition, they would be long gone. But sometimes I think they're a little too dependent on the fact that they are such a household name.

Imagineer_Tech
04-14-2008, 06:48 PM
Anyone notice Habbo advertising just below this thread!!!!! :scared1:

I'm terrified ,this was the first one I saw too!

Pirate-Emery
04-14-2008, 07:14 PM
Anyone notice Habbo advertising just below this thread!!!!! :scared1:

I'm terrified ,this was the first one I saw too!

OH MY GOD! I SEE IT TOO!

cteddiesgirl
04-14-2008, 08:17 PM
I'm not trying to bash Disney or anything, but they definitely have a long history of doing just that. I really think they need to rethink who they have dealing with marketing and promotions. If not for the fact that they generally have things in the bag simply because of name recognition, they would be long gone. But sometimes I think they're a little too dependent on the fact that they are such a household name.

I agree. Their marketing department overall is very lacking. If I were running things, I would have fired the staff and hired new a long time ago.


OT:
Are you still needing a red turnstile, People Mover, Skyway pins and dream ears? If so, I have some for you. :)

jasonpwns
04-14-2008, 09:03 PM
What I get at is,

Saluke just takes disney's designs and adds them into there client,

without saluke's game client there is no vmk.

Amber_Kait
04-14-2008, 10:02 PM
Anyone notice Habbo advertising just below this thread!!!!! :scared1:

I'm terrified ,this was the first one I saw too!

ahhhhh!!!
same here.:scared1: :scared1:

MickeysBuddy
04-14-2008, 10:07 PM
Anyone notice Habbo advertising just below this thread!!!!! :scared1:

I'm terrified ,this was the first one I saw too!The ad is there because of Habbo being mentioned on the page. These type of ads try to glean the topic of the page and provide relevant ads.

On the topic of Sulake and Habbo, Has anyone wondered if we are going to see an upgrade of Habbo to the VMK engine if VMK closes? I mean if Disney thinks VMK has a dated look and feel, what does Sulake think about Habbo. Surely they have some sort of agreement with Disney to incorporate the VMK engine into Habbo when VMK has closed.
:confused3

PopStar
04-14-2008, 10:14 PM
I don't see how come Disney can't at least try to somehow fix this problem. If it is the contract expiring or something, I'm sure Disney could buy it from Sulake...or at elast have their OWN people make the coding...I'm sure Disney could find some of the best graphic designers and game producers...

vmkfan13
04-14-2008, 10:16 PM
I don't see how come Disney can't at least try to somehow fix this problem. If it is the contract expiring or something, I'm sure Disney could buy it from Sulake...or at elast have their OWN people make the coding...I'm sure Disney could find some of the best graphic designers and game producers...

Disney is known for getting others to code their games..

NotAZoo
04-15-2008, 10:49 AM
I can see it now from Paramount

Virtual Sweeny Todd
Virtual Beowulf

and my favorite

Virtual There Will Be Blood

Talk about some family friendly entertainment.

hdmonkeybug
04-15-2008, 03:01 PM
Here is a site that explains more about the exclusive contract between Sulake and Paramount.

http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSN2952653520080129

Jasonbobdude
04-15-2008, 03:58 PM
I can see it now from Paramount

Virtual Sweeny Todd
Virtual Beowulf

and my favorite

Virtual There Will Be Blood

Talk about some family friendly entertainment.

I virtually drink your milkshake! I drink it virtually up!

tinkryansmom
04-15-2008, 04:33 PM
Under terms of the agreement -- one of the first between a major studio and a virtual world -- Habbo will have merchandising rights throughout North America for "Beowulf," "Mean Girls" and the upcoming "The Spiderwick Chronicles," with more films possible at a later date.

Uh huh uh huh...go on... one of the first....hhhmmm...interesting choice of films....

"We see this as the first phase in a growing relationship with Habbo, which is extremely well placed in the virtual world space," said Alex Carloss, executive vice president and general manager of worldwide digital distribution for Paramount Pictures Digital Entertainment.

He added that the partnership is both a marketing opportunity to extend and enhance film brands among Habbo's targeted teen demographic and a new revenue stream based on selling branded virtual assets through a micro-transaction model.

hhmmm...really? a marketing opportunity you say? Are you sure because Disney says it doesn't work....

Habbo has 1.8 million North American teens among its 8 million-strong global community and in the coming months will introduce a number of Paramount-licensed virtual accessories, including themed virtual clothing and furniture.

virtual items you say!? Unheard of!! This is pure brilliance!!

But, he said Monday: "This is the first deal where we're taking existing entertainment properties and bringing them into this world and letting our users experience them and use them for their own activities. It's pretty exciting because I think it's going to open up other opportunities because among our users are fans of these properties, and they want to use them in their virtual space."

Open up other opprotunities?? Whatever can you mean?? Travel perhaps to incorporate Paramounts amusement park type holdings?? hhhmmm....what a brilliant marketing strategy. Wish someone else had thought of that.....

Soininen agreed with Carloss that the deal marks more than just a marketing opportunity. He said that while it's too early to predict how big a revenue stream these virtual assets could become, "that virtual items have real value similar to physical goods is a fact of life already."

Virtual items have real value....huh. And people would actually enjoy this using "them in their virtual space"?? Nah I doubt. This will be a miserable failure.

sarcasm fully intended and no names have been changed to protect the innocent. Hey Disney....are you paying attention??