Wendy & Chuck's PJ and TR Merged 2/4/08 Escape SBP/JIKO: Updated 9/19-Pleasure Island

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Okay, I'll start a PJ. Nevermind that my wedding is only 82 days away. Nevermind that I should probably be spending more time doing and acting and planning and less time lamenting.

I think a PJ will give me a great place to organize all of my thoughts, ideas and purchases. I'm a little worried though, that I'll realize how much I really have left to do and then freak out. :scared:

So, here we go from the top:

A Breif History

DF and I met 11 years ago this month at a Fraternity party he had been heavily promoting. DF had met my best gf online (this was when things like this happen with instant message and such) and invited her and her friends to the party. So, we decided to go. We figured if it was lame we could bail, otherwise it was something to do on a Friday night. DF originally liked my gf, but he backed off when his friend also liked her. So, he instead turned his attention towards me. (His version differs, claiming he liked me all along from the begining :rolleyes: )

We began dating and then we kept dating and then we dated some more. Then we broke up (for a couple of months) and then we dated again. Then we dated some more. Then we broke up again (for 4 months). Then we started dating again. Whew. That's a lot of dating. So, I designated 2006 as The Year Of The Ring: Operation Coal. However, I left in the middle of year and moved to Florida to do the Disney College Program. I came home from that 2 months early (November instead of January) and DF and I began living together. (We had lived together once before but then broke up... eek!)

Finally, DF realized that having to propose was imminent. So, we planned a vacation to Disney (by far, my favorite vacation spot. DF likes it too... his family has spent nearly every Christmas of his life there.)

The Proposal

Okay, I'm copying this portion from my blog on my myspace:

Thank You Everyone for you patience, I just this morning found my thumb drive, got the pictures off of Chuck's computer and took some not so great pictures of my ring while sitting at my desk, lol.

If you haven't heard my little story yet, here it is...

There was a hopeful plan to get engaged while we were at WDW recently. We flew in Thursday, May 17th and our flight home was Tuesday the 22nd. So, there we were having tons of fun; overfed (ddp) and exhausted (too short of a trip.) We were finally going to Magic Kingdom on Monday, my home away from home, MY MECCA! At this point there has been nothing. A beautiful dinner at Narcoossee's at the Grand Floridian... Nothing. An amazing Segway Tour at Epcot... Nothing. Hmmm. What did I do. Give up. I stopped thinking about it. I had almost forgotten about a silly proposal, heck I was in Disney. I was at the Magic Kingdom - Spectro and Wishes were later in the evening. Life, was (is) pretty good. Besides, Chuck probably forgot the ring (which no, I had not seen yet,) or got cold feet (surprise, surprise) or whatever. All I know was that I was unexpecting. On top of it he had been slightly sick all day (lol, if I only knew!) and blamed it on our really, really late dinner the night before!

Moving along...

We had a wonderful day at MK, at 5pm we watched the Flag Retreat Ceremony and then caught the monorail to the Contemporary for our dinner ressie at Concourse Steakhouse. At this point I think Chuck is dying so I am willing to miss Spectro and Wishes and go back to our room so he can rest. He assures me that he's fine and we head back to MK. Due to some poor transportation and an innocent detour on our part, we don't make it back until ten to eight. I'm freaking out because the parade is in an hour and we haven't gone on any fantasyland rides!! No pan, no small world, no philharmagic! AND we haven't been to Cinderella's Fountain. An often overlooked gem, Cinderella's Fountain is situated behind the Castle and off to the left. It's kitty corner to a designated smoking area that often spills into that space (boo!) The great thing about the fountain is that Cinderella is dressed in rags but from a child's perspective (yes you have to crouch down to really see it!) Cinderella is always a princess, no matter what she is wearing!

We enter into the park and Chuck says that we have time, we could do at least do one thing, so we head up Main Street and walk through the Castle and make our way towards the fountain. For some reason he hold me back... there were some people in front of the fountain and I assumed that he didn't want clutzy me to get in their way. So we wait and when the coast is clear, approach the fountain. I'm crouching down, trying to get the best view; fumbling with my bag to get my camera out and I look over an my dork of a boyfriend is fumbling with pennies and has his eyes closed and is tossing a penny into the fountain. I wondering what on earth he's doing. So I ask... What are you doing??? He said that you make wishes at fountains, but really you should throw the penny over your shoulder. I'm very gullible as any one who knows me knows. Alrighty then - Let's Do It! He hands me a penny. I turn around. I close my eyes. I'm poised to toss my penny. And I make a wish...


What's my big wish... please don't let Chuck be so sick that we can't enjoy Spectro and Wishes! lololol.

I toss that penny in the fountain, open my eyes and Chuck is down on bended in knee, on wet stone, hold a beautiful ring up with two hands. He told me how much he loved me, and that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me! And then he asked if I would marry him! I immediately started crying, nodding my head up and down and asking "really? really?" all at the same time!

Beyond that, I kind of went into shock. I know that a kind stranger took pictures with Chuck's camera, I know that people said nice things. So, here are the pictures that the stanger took and some ring pictures that I tried to take that didn't turn out to well. They do not do justice to the ring, but they give you and idea of what's what!

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/engagementkiss.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/engagementposed.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/engagementcrying.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/bestring.jpg


I'll try to get basic wedding info up this afternoon and pictures of anything I have tonight or tomorrow!

[Pezalicious]

Yay! I'm so glad you started a PJ!!!

The proposal sounds so sweet. I can't wait to see the pics you have from it. :goodvibes

[caryndisneydiva]

i didn't know you're a former cp? where did you work? i cut my program short as well, my grandfather passed away and i went home...

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I was accepted into operations and I was assigned to the Magic Kingdom, Main Stree Ops. I was immediatly trained as a conductor on the railroad and I also worked P.A.C. However, during check-in (the second day when you got your job assignments) I was recruited by an entertainment scout along with about 6 others. We were whisked away to auditions and eventually they transferred 4 of us from our assigned positions into entertainment.
:maleficen With entertainment, I got to work at all four parks! It was a blast. So, I got to do a bit of everything. I could still recite the conductor spiel for you right now! All Aboard!

[caryndisneydiva]

I was accepted into operations and I was assigned to the Magic Kingdom, Main Stree Ops. I was immediatly trained as a conductor on the railroad and I also worked P.A.C. However, during check-in (the second day when you got your job assignments) I was recruited by an entertainment scout along with about 6 others. We were whisked away to auditions and eventually they transferred 4 of us from our assigned positions into entertainment.
:maleficen With entertainment, I got to work at all four parks! It was a blast. So, I got to do a bit of everything. I could still recite the conductor spiel for you right now! All Aboard!

VERY COOL! df was in entertainment as well in PI! i wanted to be belle soooooo badly, but i'm too tall. i think the only face character as tall as me is malificent, and she apparently doesn't (or didn't at that time) appear too often!!!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

i didn't know you're a former cp? where did you work? i cut my program short as well, my grandfather passed away and i went home...

I'm sorry about your grandfather :hug: I left for many reasons, one of them being that DF's father had cancer and was going in for a surgery where his chances of survival weren't too great. It seems important that I be home during that time. I'm happy to say that FFIL is still with us and doing well! So, that worked out!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

VERY COOL! df was in entertainment as well in PI! i wanted to be belle soooooo badly, but i'm too tall. i think the only face character as tall as me is malificent, and she apparently doesn't (or didn't at that time) appear too often!!!

Well, I'm 5'10 disney height... I was scouted for the white witch (from narnia) and for mali (with halloween she was quite prominent). However, before you do face, you have to do fur... and there's tons of fur in that height range!

[caryndisneydiva]

i'm glad that your ffil is doing well! disney wasn't very forgiving of my situation...since i was a cp and had NO money i had to drive to nj, they wouldn't give me the week off that i needed in the begining of december and i didn't want to fight with them.

sorry to hijack the pj!!! can't wait for pics of the dress etc!!!

[mla1977]

Yay! You started it. So you got to be a character? How cool is that! A guy a went to high school with went to work (I believe through the college program) and he is still there! His sister says he is an entertainment manager at Epcot. Everytime I'm there I leave a message for him, but he never gets in touch with me. My last trip, I actually went to guest relatations and they were supposed to send a message to his pager. No dice though.

[BayouPrincess]

YEAH! :cheer2: You started your PJ! Sounds great. My DD wants to be in the CP...she doesn't want to be there during hurricane season! :rotfl2:

[caryndisneydiva]

YEAH! :cheer2: You started your PJ! Sounds great. My DD wants to be in the CP...she doesn't want to be there during hurricane season! :rotfl2:

to my knowledge, disney has only closed once during a hurricane, (someone correct me if i'm wrong), and that was in 1999 during andrew! my college roomate and fellow cp'er was doing her first cp there during this time!

[Kristen14]

Yay for a PJ! I can't wait to read more. Dont worry, I started my PJ with about 90 days to go. It's a lot of posting to get everyone caught up, but then its a great place to organize your thoughts.

[lurkyloo]

Hooray! You started a journal! I started mine with about 95 days to go too! I thought I didn't have time to do one, but it's amazing how you make time to do fun stuff... ;)

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Type of Wedding: Escape

Date: February 4, 2008 (LurkyLoo and I are kindered spirits, and how cool is it that our weddings are 2-4-8)

Time: 2:30pm

Location: Sea Breeze Point

Officiant: Ron Rosenzweig - I haven't hear much on him, has anyone used him?? I went with ron b/c he was on the 'recommended' list and he didn't have any religious affiliation. DF is atheist and I'm agnostic. FMIL doesn't quite understand what agnostic is. So I once tried explaining it to her and she now likens it to Scientology. :rotfl: (you have to understand she's an older Italian woman from the old country. She's smart about somethings, but other stuff she just doesn't understand no matter what. And she has a different way of thinking about things. So, we butt heads A LOT!)

Photography: Randy Chapman - I choose Randy because he came so highly recommended on this board and because I like wanted to own the rights to my images and reprint at my will. Also, his price was very nice! We retained Randy for the 3 hour intimate package.

Welcome Dinner: I wanted to do either the Hoop-dee-do or Luau dinner show for our welcome dinner. Unfortunately, FMIL and FFIL had a multitude of reasons as to why those weren't good choices. So, I went with the stand-by, Ohana. I like Ohana okay enough, but it's not what I wanted.

The cast:

Me: Wendy aka the Mistress of All Evil
DF: Chuck
My MOH: FSIL Christie
Bridesmaid: Jenna
Best Man: Anthony (There were going to be two best men, but as I have previously posted, the other dropped out and did so in a really crappy way!)
Flower Girl: My Niece, Amya

As guests we have My Parents, DF's Parents, My sister, two of my girlfriends, two of DF's girlfriends (platonic), and another couple that we're friends with (through DF's work). We have two spots right now that we're fighting out how to fill it. I think since the couple that's coming is really DF's friends, I should get to invite who I want for the other two spots. We're working it out, lol.

Now, I only wanted to have one attendant each. BUT DF really had to have two Best Men. So I invited another friend to stand up and now DF only has one attendant. I'm not worried about being lopsided. It's just one shoulda listened to me moments.

I'll try to get pictures together to post what everyone is wearing tomorrow, but I hate to keep you guys waiting any longer to see my dress, so here it is. Now, keep in mind, I bought it off the rack for $600. And it's not altered yet and I've lost 15 lbs since the picture was taken and I'm not wearing shoes in the picture either. So, I think the finished product is going to look a lot better.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/Front2.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/Back.jpg

[lpizzuro123]

Glad you started you PJ and I just LOVE your dress. Can't wait to read - and see - more.

Linda

[lurkyloo]

Holy smokes, that is a gorgeous dress! It's like the skinny-lady version of my dress, further sealing our wedding-twin status! (except for the part where only one of us is a skinny lady, and it ain't me!) Add to that the fact that I'm also 5'10" and am also frequently confused for a Scientologist... wow [insert mind-blowing smiley]...

We will prolly be on the boat from the BoardWalk to the Beach Club as your ceremony starts, which I think means we'll go right by you at Sea Breeze Point! I'll be sure to bring an air horn... :rotfl:

[mcarthur205]

Oh, your dress is beautiful and sooo elegant! Can't wait to read more!

[helloirishkitty]

Your dress is so elegant, I love it :bride:

[Eeyore's Tailfinder]

Wow your dress is gorgeous, and are you kidding me? You did not need to lose 15lbs! You look fantastic in it!! What's your secret :laughing:

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I had to stop in the library at school to print some stuff out for class, and I thought I'd stop in and just let everyone know that thanks to Caryn I contacted birdcageveils.com today and the owner Melody called me while I was driving from work to school and I bought a veil!!!! I wasn't going to do a veil, but I LOVE IT!! I'll post up pics tomorrow!

[caryndisneydiva]

you lost 15 pounds since that pic? you're a skinny mini! and tall like lurkyloo and myself! i think the birdcage is going to look fantastic with your dress!!! the style's go perfectly!!! i'm so excited for you! is that dress white or ivory?

[JaxTeach]

I'm glad you started a PJ... it's never too late! I thought I started mine too early.

Your dress is gorgeous! I love the old glam look it has and the birdcage veil is going to look great with it!

[BayouPrincess]

You are going to be a glamorous, hollywood starlet bride. I love the dress! and with the birdcage veil...You and Caryn are going to ROCK!:3dglasses

Great PJ!popcorn::

[lov2b@disney]

Amazing, your going to knock his socks off! Love it

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Okay, so this is the veil I bought...

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/birdcageveil_russian_netting_emma18.jpg

Melody, the owner, said it's the same veil that this bride was wearing.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/birdcageveil_kristab_sitting.jpg

And, by the way, I :love: her hair. So, that's def. on more picture I'm going to show to my girlfriend who's doing my hair.

This is the rose hair clip I was going to purchase before I bought the veil. I think I'm still going to get it, because it may be useful to end up having to hide the veil combs.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/mediumredrose.jpg

Oh... and here are the shoes I bought last week to go with my dress. I love them. They're the perfect amount of simple for me!

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/ColorifficTaylorShoe.jpg

So with all this... what does everyone think I should do about jewelry? I was really against pearls, but the more I think about it, I think it might work if I do multiple strands of varying lengths. Suggestions??

[lov2b@disney]

I think multiple lengths of pearls would compliment the sophisticated look!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Glad you started you PJ and I just LOVE your dress. Can't wait to read - and see - more.

Linda

Thank you, I can't wait to write more.

Holy smokes, that is a gorgeous dress! It's like the skinny-lady version of my dress, further sealing our wedding-twin status! (except for the part where only one of us is a skinny lady, and it ain't me!) Add to that the fact that I'm also 5'10" and am also frequently confused for a Scientologist... wow [insert mind-blowing smiley]...

We will prolly be on the boat from the BoardWalk to the Beach Club as your ceremony starts, which I think means we'll go right by you at Sea Breeze Point! I'll be sure to bring an air horn... :rotfl:

I think they have that really loud horn right on the boat. So, you can def. have them blow it during our ceremony. :woohoo: If you can't tell, DF and I really aren't big ceremony people... so it's not like it will 'ruin' anything for us!

Oh, your dress is beautiful and sooo elegant! Can't wait to read more!

Thank you, I feel elegant in it!

Your dress is so elegant, I love it :bride:

Thank you! Can you beleive it's the first dress I tried on at that first store I went to???

Wow your dress is gorgeous, and are you kidding me? You did not need to lose 15lbs! You look fantastic in it!! What's your secret :laughing:

I'm not one of those chicks with a warpped body image. I've always hovered around a certain weight. Finally, my age and metabolism caught up with me and combined with being really depressed when I got home from the CP at Disney and not being able to find a job, I packed on 20lbs. I was bigger than I ever was in my whole life. I grew out of all my clothes and nothing fit! So, I've just been eating healthier. I still eat... A LOT. But I make really, really good for you choices. I've cut out a lot of sugar and trans and saturated fats. I read the You on a Diet book. It's really more of a life style. So now that this semester has calmed down at school, I want to put some weight on, but in the form of muscle... I need to actually start moving my body!

you lost 15 pounds since that pic? you're a skinny mini! and tall like lurkyloo and myself! i think the birdcage is going to look fantastic with your dress!!! the style's go perfectly!!! i'm so excited for you! is that dress white or ivory?

It's Ivory!! I think the veil and dress are going to go too. I can't wait for the veil to show up. I wish it was here already, lol.

I'm glad you started a PJ... it's never too late! I thought I started mine too early.

Your dress is gorgeous! I love the old glam look it has and the birdcage veil is going to look great with it!

Thanks!!

Amazing, your going to knock his socks off! Love it

I don't know about that... you know the country song... "I like my women a little on the trashy side"?? Well, that's kinda how DF is. If my hair has a bit of a frizz going on, or my dress is just a tad too short... he's happy. I think he might be afraid of me when I'm all glammed up, refined and finished. :laughing:


Thanks everyone for your kind words about my dress! I just realized I didn't mention it before, but I don't have anyone secured for hair or makeup because I plan on doing it myself. Well, okay, not my hair. My bridesmaid, Jenna, will be doing my hair (she's a semi-professional, lol). And then I'm setting up a session with one of the artists from the MAC counter to 'learn' how to acheive the look I want for the wedding. So, I'll be doing my own makeup! :rolleyes1

[caryndisneydiva]

the pearls will be really nice! i can't wait for my veil to get here either!!!

[lurkyloo]

Oh yes, multiple strands of pearls would look great - especially if you had at least one really long one, like down to your waist. Heck, you could even do opera-length gloves (although maybe it'd be a tad costume-y - but it'd look great!).

So who designed your dress?

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Oh yes, multiple strands of pearls would look great - especially if you had at least one really long one, like down to your waist. Heck, you could even do opera-length gloves (although maybe it'd be a tad costume-y - but it'd look great!).

So who designed your dress?


I don't mind going more costume-y. Heck, it's all a big production anyhow... But I prolly won't do gloves b/c it would seem like too big of a hassle, all the taking them on and off, lolololol. The dress is Pronovias. I don't know the style # or name and it's been at my seamstress'ssssss house for I don't know how long. I took over to her to have her give me her professional opinion and we decided that if I had lost even 5 lbs, she wouldn't have to let it out. So we're doing the official first fitting the begining of next month!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Okay, so DF really, really wanted to wear a zoot suit tuxedo (this is one of three things he's really asked for) but I couldn't find but the one cheesy zoot suit tuxedo that it seems all the shops were carrying. It's was black with "chalk" white stripes. Idk, I hated it. So, I tried to really get an idea of what DF wanted and it turns out he wanted a gangster/mobster look. Okay... so I search and search and couldn't find anything until awhile back Carolyn Allen's switched their affiliation and added some new, different styles to what they had available. Luckily, there was a tux that seemed to fit what DF was looking for. So here's what we're ordering:

The tux, it's FUBU, both DF and the Best Man will be wearing this:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/shadow_stripe_894_small.jpg

Here's the vest and tie:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/tango_small2.jpg

DF is wearing the red show in the pic and the best man is wearing silver:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/tango_bali_silver.jpg

They'll both be wearing these shirts and shoes:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/black_laydown_small2.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/black_blucher_small.jpg

And they will both be wearing the hat (probably not the scarf though), DF will be in red to match his vest and likewise the best man will be in silver to match.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/tango_hats_small2.jpg

So, all in all, I'm happy with these decisions. I really didn't want red and black as my wedding colors, but since I didn't have any vision at all when I first started planning and DF reallly wanted the red, I went along with it. FSIL, who is my MOH and my bridesmaid are both wearing black cocktail dress. They don't match eachother exactly, but the 'shade' of black and material match well enough. They're going to wear black, strappy heels.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Oh, so the whole tommy gun thing. I need two realistic looking toy tommy guns for the guys to carry. DF really wants them. This is part of his look. How can I deny him? I can't. It would have been a lot funnier if the second best man hadn't dropped out. I was hoping to get pictures of one holding DF at 'gunpoint' at the alter while the other was on the look out. Oh well, I'm sure we'll still get some good pics. But I need some decent looking guns. I don't want them to look junky. I know halloween just passed, but everytime I searched, I didn't come up with much and they all looked cheesy. Any help would be appreciated.

[lurkyloo]

I think there's a law now that they have to make toy guns look cheesy so that cops won't mistake them for real guns... :confused3

Could you find a cheesy one with a good shape and spray paint it? I can't believe we're talking about guns in a wedding thread... :rotfl:

[allie_to_you]

Can't wait to read more. You will be getting married the same week my family & I will be at Disney. Congrats!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

[QUOTE=lurkyloo;21792237]I think there's a law now that they have to make toy guns look cheesy so that cops won't mistake them for real guns... :confused3
QUOTE]

I thought that's what the completely obvious, stupid looking orange ring around the barrel(?) of the gun was for!! Ugh...

It's one thing for DF to say, "I would like to do xyz" and then go and do it. It's quite another for DF to say, "I would like to do xyz" and then leave for me to figure out how to make it happen. good thing I :love: him. :laughing:

[caryndisneydiva]

MEN!!!!

since the other bm dropped out, why don't you recruit one of your fathers in the gun shenanigans...

i agree with lurkyloo...i don't think you can buy "real" looking guns anymore...you could always go get a fake looking one and have them put a big napkin over it (like they did in the godfather), so you have the "effect" of a real oozie (sp?)...

i had to edit, i just seriously wrote the word, "oozie" in a bride blog! this is hilarious!

[Kristen14]

Lol, my DF would be so proud of this gun conversation... you're a much cooler bride than I am. My DF would absolutely want to do this if he ever heard about it:scared1: . Not sure where to find a fake gun, but we have 8 real guns in our closet if you need one... or 8 :eek:

[Kristinella]

Well I love have you started your PJ, I enjoy reading all of your plans along with the other Dis Brides...hopefully I can be one some day soon :rolleyes1

Anyways I did some looking and found these...

http://toyarsenal.com/?gclid=CLbz9LH44Y8CFRGCGgod6lUzCQ

http://www.realistictoyguns.com/

http://www.411toys.com/ (said something about but 1 get 1 free...however not sure what the details are! :confused3 )

Also I agree there are some that have the orange cap but you can always paint them or maybe even take them off or out (however they are attatched?!)

I hope that these are helpful...good luck and if I find anymore I will let you know, happy planning:yay:

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I can't believe we're talking about guns in a wedding thread... :rotfl:

It's funny, right? I had got caught up in all the stuff I needed to get for myself and had completely forgot that I had promised tommy guns until I started posting his outfit yesterday.

since the other bm dropped out, why don't you recruit one of your fathers in the gun shenanigans...

i agree with lurkyloo...i don't think you can buy "real" looking guns anymore...you could always go get a fake looking one and have them put a big napkin over it (like they did in the godfather), so you have the "effect" of a real oozie (sp?)...

i had to edit, i just seriously wrote the word, "oozie" in a bride blog! this is hilarious!

The whole 'getting a dad involved' thing is an excellent idea. His father won't go for it, he's kind of a drag. But my stepfather might! I'll have to see. I also have to pick out a tux for my evil step moster (it's an old family name) too!

Lol, my DF would be so proud of this gun conversation... you're a much cooler bride than I am. My DF would absolutely want to do this if he ever heard about it:scared1: .

I don't feel cooler, I feel crazy! :laughing:

Well I love have you started your PJ, I enjoy reading all of your plans along with the other Dis Brides...hopefully I can be one some day soon :rolleyes1

Anyways I did some looking and found these...

http://toyarsenal.com/?gclid=CLbz9LH44Y8CFRGCGgod6lUzCQ

http://www.realistictoyguns.com/

http://www.411toys.com/ (said something about but 1 get 1 free...however not sure what the details are! :confused3 )

Also I agree there are some that have the orange cap but you can always paint them or maybe even take them off or out (however they are attatched?!)

I hope that these are helpful...good luck and if I find anymore I will let you know, happy planning:yay:

Thank you sooooo much. I appreciate you finding more resources than I did when I searched. It's always better to have more options. I appreciate you looking around :flower3:


And don't worry, I didn't think I'd ever get there with the whole being a :bride: thing... But DF realized he couldn't hold out forever ;)

[Bostonbride6292008]

I love the tux! Thats something I didnt even think about yet lol! I was more worried about every other detail that the tux totally left my mind!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

OMG! We registered this weekend. I think that is one of the most horrible things I've ever been through. :scared: We went to Bed Bath & Beyond. We were there forever. DF was AMAZING :love: :wizard: which really helped, b/c I started to get anxious and overwhelmed. Then I get panicky... ugh! Basically, DF says that I need to just get out of my own way, which is sooo true. :laughing:

We couldn't choose dinnerware, so I also skipped flatware and drinking glasses, etc. I also didn't do table linens yet. We registered for almost everything else. But we do need to register for a microwave (they didn't have any that we liked) and breadmaker (for DF :rotfl2: )

So here is my question: Where else should we register?? I need to find plates and bowls and a microwave. Where did everyone else register. Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions?? All input is welcome.

[mla1977]

I plan on using a registry to register for small appliances that I would like to have/replace. Things I thought about: pasta maker, new crockpot, ice cream maker, blender, etc, attachment for my Kitchenaid mixer. If you are interested, this would be a good time to register for the more expensive appliance (like the mixer). Don't forget about good crystal too.

[Kristen14]

I registered at BB&B too, and then Macys. I agree, it was stressful! Usually when you go shopping you dont throw EVERYTHING YOU SEE into your cart... which is basically what you're doing when you register! I barely registered for anything, we had to re-do it all online when we got home. It's a lot less stressful than being in the store and surrounded by stacks and stacks of stuff!

I registered for our fine china at both BB&B and Macys, just because Macys has great sales (even though the regular price is cheaper at BB&B) , so if we have to buy it ourselves after the wedding we'll get a better price. We got our everyday china at Macys, its just plain white, by the Cellar.

My advice is to have fun when registering... its basically your "wish list" so you shouldnt expect to get everything. Make sure you have things in different price ranges... some people like to spend $50 or under, some spend $100, and some $200 or more.

[lurkyloo]

I felt the same way about registering! First of all, how often do you outfit an entire household in one day? Like never...Second of all, bless BB&B for their return policy, but spending more than about 30 minutes in one of those places - with the no windows and the incessant '50s pop songs - is enough to drive anyone crazy. I got really cranky - I think I should have brought snacks.

How about Crate & Barrel? Macy's is good too - I thought they were only going to have the usual boring department store stuff, but they just started a deal with Martha Stewart and have so much cute stuff!

[Lisella]

A good friend of mine who recently married registered at a few of places - I think she did Macy's, Linens & Things and Target. She said that the Target registry was the easiest and most fun and speaking from experience in shopping from someone's registry - the most easiest and friendliest to use.

[lurkyloo]

A good friend of mine who recently married registered at a few of places - I think she did Macy's, Linens & Things and Target. She said that the Target registry was the easiest and most fun and speaking from experience in shopping from someone's registry - the most easiest and friendliest to use.

Whoa - really? I have heard nothing but horror stories about Target. They changed their return policy in August, and now if people accidentally buy you multiples of something you can only return one. Also you can't return or exchange anything without a receipt, even if it's on your registry... :scared1:

[Lisella]

Whoa - really? I have heard nothing but horror stories about Target. They changed their return policy in August, and now if people accidentally buy you multiples of something you can only return one. Also you can't return or exchange anything without a receipt, even if it's on your registry... :scared1:


I did not know that...plus her wedding was last year so it was before these changes took effect. That's too bad though. As for return policies, consumer laws vary by state so these changes may not affect everyone. I know we have some pretty tough ones here in MA which help to protect us (not sure how Target's new policy figures into it though...I'll have to do some research :surfweb: ).

[disneygirl_wdw]

I registered at Bed, Bath, and Beyond, Disney honeymoon registry, and Target. I was hesitant about doing Target, but that is where I mostly shop and in my friends price range, so I went with it. I have had a good experience with them. Everything I scanned was added correctly, I went home and added stuff online and went back to the store and everything worked great. They did mention for everyone to include gift receipts, which only a few do anyway. I had my shower yesterday and all the gifts except from 1 persons were from Target. No one has done anything on my Disney registry and one person got items from BBB. I was hoping for more from BBB since that is where some of the appliances are we were wanting. Oh well, we still got a lot of neat, useful stuff.

[Kristen14]

Whoa - really? I have heard nothing but horror stories about Target. They changed their return policy in August, and now if people accidentally buy you multiples of something you can only return one. Also you can't return or exchange anything without a receipt, even if it's on your registry... :scared1:

A friend of mine is going thru this right now! Target is surprisingly un-willing to budge. It's one of my favorite stores, but I will not register there!

[caryndisneydiva]

i registered at williams sonoma. we have lived together forever and i originally wasn't going to register, but after incessant whining and complaining from our friends, we did it...well, i did it. i find ws to be the easiet place to work with. we don't need any china, but there is a ton of kitchen stuff that i need. we use fiesta ware which i love, it's so colorful and fun!!! we bought it when we worked for disney at property control (aka: disney shopping heaven) when they changed all the dinnerware in wdw restaurants to be the same!!! i just registered for everything i could think of online. we've already gotten one present!!!

[sunsh1ne]

i also have hadmany problemswith taget.
i went to return things fromym bridal shower and they just down right would not take them back and nowi have 20 towels that dont match anything and then i went to return some items from the wedding and they asked me to look it up in the systemand i couldnot find me when they called the office it said that it kicks you out the day after the event. ahhh so you cant even return gofts after the wedding hmm this is strange.
to end on a high note i did have a lot of luck with bbb. they allowed me to return all i mean all of my shower gifts and rebuy in florida and use coupons so i saved money and was able to by the best cofee machine hehe.
they are a great choice.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I registered at BB&B too, and then Macys. I agree, it was stressful! Usually when you go shopping you dont throw EVERYTHING YOU SEE into your cart... which is basically what you're doing when you register! I barely registered for anything, we had to re-do it all online when we got home. It's a lot less stressful than being in the store and surrounded by stacks and stacks of stuff!

I registered for our fine china at both BB&B and Macys, just because Macys has great sales (even though the regular price is cheaper at BB&B) , so if we have to buy it ourselves after the wedding we'll get a better price. We got our everyday china at Macys, its just plain white, by the Cellar.

My advice is to have fun when registering... its basically your "wish list" so you shouldnt expect to get everything. Make sure you have things in different price ranges... some people like to spend $50 or under, some spend $100, and some $200 or more.

I never though about it that way... the whole throwing everything into your cart! It is stressful. But I think our day was successful despite the things we didn't get to (the dinnerware, a microwave, etc.) We had 101 items on our list. I adjusted some stuff yesterday online.

Thanks for the everyday china suggestion... We have to go with just a plain white (b/c DF is very plain like that, and I'm okay with it) we were just having a hard time deciding in the store. They had a lot more options online though. So DF and I are going to have to look online and then go to our second store option (prolly Macy's) and if we don't see anything in person, hopefully we'll have choosen a backup online.

I felt the same way about registering! First of all, how often do you outfit an entire household in one day? Like never...Second of all, bless BB&B for their return policy, but spending more than about 30 minutes in one of those places - with the no windows and the incessant '50s pop songs - is enough to drive anyone crazy. I got really cranky - I think I should have brought snacks.

How about Crate & Barrel? Macy's is good too - I thought they were only going to have the usual boring department store stuff, but they just started a deal with Martha Stewart and have so much cute stuff!


Yeah, half way through, I though... "man, i should have thrown some granola bars and a bottled water in my purse." I'm hypoglycemic... so, I should know better anyhow. We had planned on eating after... I just didn't know after was going to be like 6 hrs. later :rotfl: Then, we get back in the truck after and lo and behold... we had all sorts of fruit b/c we had gone to the market before we went to BB&B. So we could have totally snacked on some bananas!

The other thing I'm thinking about with Macy's is luggage. DF travels ALL THE TIME for work and he could use some decent luggage. Like a better carry-on bag at the very least (he tries not to check his bag b/c it's always more of a hassle.)

Whoa - really? I have heard nothing but horror stories about Target. They changed their return policy in August, and now if people accidentally buy you multiples of something you can only return one. Also you can't return or exchange anything without a receipt, even if it's on your registry... :scared1:

I've heard the same bad things. That and your almost guranteed to get multiples b/c there system doesn't update in real time.

I registered at Bed, Bath, and Beyond, Disney honeymoon registry, and Target. I was hesitant about doing Target, but that is where I mostly shop and in my friends price range, so I went with it. I have had a good experience with them. Everything I scanned was added correctly, I went home and added stuff online and went back to the store and everything worked great. They did mention for everyone to include gift receipts, which only a few do anyway. I had my shower yesterday and all the gifts except from 1 persons were from Target. No one has done anything on my Disney registry and one person got items from BBB. I was hoping for more from BBB since that is where some of the appliances are we were wanting. Oh well, we still got a lot of neat, useful stuff.

I'm glad Target is working out for you. I guess if you register all for stuff you really really want, then you shouldn't have to much of a problem. You didn't get any multiples??

A friend of mine is going thru this right now! Target is surprisingly un-willing to budge. It's one of my favorite stores, but I will not register there!

I LOOOOVE Target, it's my happy place. :goodvibes But I was purposely avoiding them b/c of everything I had heard about their registry. It's kind of a bummer! Even DF asked if we could register there and I explained to him the pitfalls.

i registered at williams sonoma. we have lived together forever and i originally wasn't going to register, but after incessant whining and complaining from our friends, we did it...well, i did it. i find ws to be the easiet place to work with. we don't need any china, but there is a ton of kitchen stuff that i need. we use fiesta ware which i love, it's so colorful and fun!!! we bought it when we worked for disney at property control (aka: disney shopping heaven) when they changed all the dinnerware in wdw restaurants to be the same!!! i just registered for everything i could think of online. we've already gotten one present!!!

Oh how I miss PC.

i also have hadmany problemswith taget.
i went to return things fromym bridal shower and they just down right would not take them back and nowi have 20 towels that dont match anything and then i went to return some items from the wedding and they asked me to look it up in the systemand i couldnot find me when they called the office it said that it kicks you out the day after the event. ahhh so you cant even return gofts after the wedding hmm this is strange.
to end on a high note i did have a lot of luck with bbb. they allowed me to return all i mean all of my shower gifts and rebuy in florida and use coupons so i saved money and was able to by the best cofee machine hehe.
they are a great choice.


This is the icing on the cake, sealing the deal. I'm standing firm on not registering at Target, eventhough I feel like it would be so easy to go there and pick stuff out.

End Result: We'll prolly go to either Macy's this weekend to register. Please send me some :goodvibes b/c it's going to be hellacious having to do this the weekend after thanksgiving!!!!!! Eeeek! But, if we just keep our momentum up and get it over with, we'll be relieved when it's over. That, and we have no choice, our shower ivites have to go out next week :headache:

[MistressOfAllEvil]

So, I woke up around 5:30 this morning completely parched... I stumbled to the kitchen and got another bottled water and went back to bed. My alarm went off at 6am and I hit snooze twice before turning it off and telling DF to go before me this morning. He comes back from the bathroom after his shower and tries to wake me again and I shrug him off. I had a horrible headache all on the right side of my head and behind my eye. Finally, he comes back in the room with his coat on at 7:30am and wakes me again, asking if I'm staying home today. I say no... b/c if I can't afford to take the friday after thanksgiving off (which my boss will give me off, but just not pay me for :mad: ) then I can't afford to take today off. I look at the clock and say I'm going, that I'm just going to be late (I should be leaving at 7:30am!) Then DF says, "happy birthday honey," and that's when I loose it and start crying. I feel like a** and don't want to go to work and I didn't even remember it was my birthday when I woke up! So, I took some excedrine migraine, hopped in the shower and got to work only 50 mins late today! :sad2: My neck is still a little stiff but other than that the pain in my head is dulled. And my boss just bought me lunch for my Bday! So, that's good.


On to some Wedding Updates:

My veil came last night and I've already jacked it up. I ordered the 18" russian veil with three combs. Well, melody packed it on a foam ball with the combs pinned down in the same way they should be positioned when you wear the veil. Well, of course I read this in the directions after I've already unpinned it from the ball and I can't firgure out how to put it on correctly. So, I don't have any cool pictures like Caryn, but... when I do my hair trial, I'll post thoughs. So, I tried putting it back on the foam ball for safe keeping as again, the directions suggest. There's no way I could get it back on the way it was before. HMPF! So, I just drapped it over the ball and put it in the spare room for safe keeping! Now how am I going to get it down to Disney?? Hmmmm.

Also, we sent our invitations out in October (I'll have to take some pictures and post them this weekend) and thus far we've only gotten 5 RSVPs due by the 30th of this month. My parents, DF's parents & grandmother, FSIL/MOH and the Best Man have all replied that they're coming. The RSVP we got yesterday was from a girlfriend of DF's who lives in Cali. She was iffy from the start and sure enough she declined the invitation. So now were down from 18 guests to 15. And I feel really bad for DF b/c it's his people who are declining and putting up a fuss about not bringing significant others. Not one of my friends (married, dating or single) has had a problem with coming alone. Even FSIL is coming w/out her BF of just over a year. And they are both okay with it. So, DF sent his gf in cali an email saying that we just had someone else decline last week, so now her sig other could come, and does that make a difference to whether she can come or not. I'm kinda frustrated by that... like why does she get the preferential treatment over anyone else, esp. those who are coopertive. But for DF's sake, I figure we should throw it out there and if it doesn't make a difference, at least we tried to accomadate her.

Also, it's countdown to Thanksgiving. Has anyone ever cooked to spite someone?? I'm making green bean casserole to spite DF's mom. Okay, I know that's wrong. She told FSIL that she doesn't like my green bean casserole b/c it's too mushy and maybe it would be better if it was made with fresh green beans. HELLLOOOOOOOO, green bean casserole is supposed to be mushy. The crunch comes from the fried onions, lol. So, I told her that was the dish I was bringing last night on the phone and she tried to tell me not to bother and I told her that DF already had me buy all the stuff to make it so it's not a bother. I know it's wrong to be soooo passive agressive. But I'm so angry about everything that she's done regarding the wedding and there's nothing I can do. I have to wait until Thursdays when DF plans on 'stepping in' and having a conversation with FMIL about all of these 'issues' (recap of issues: not coming to my shower, not inviting anyone else to my shower, refusing to set date for at home reception to be held at her house this summer until april!). So, I am not looking forward to Thrusday. I'm getting my :cool2: ready. And it's even more so disappointing b/c my Parents moved to AZ a year ago so I haven't had my mom's stuffing or turkey or anything and I miss it so bad! DF's mom wants to make frickin gnocci with thanksgiving dinner. I'm thinking how about some yams??? :scared:

[MistressOfAllEvil]

We booked our room this weekend. We were really, really considering going with a Deluxe resort. Prolly the WL b/c we loooved it so much when we visited it on our last vacation. But I kept asking DF is he really wanted to spend that kind of money. I mean, I know that it's our wedding an all... but I don't want to get spoiled by a deluxe and then what, lol. But really it seemed unrealistic to spend that much on a room. We're such go, go, go people anyhow that we only spend time in the room to sleep. So he finally agreed to POFQ and I called Sunday. We were able to book for $99/night for 4 nights (required for an escape wedding) since we're AP holders now (included with the escape wedding). I asked if the vouchers alone were okay to show when we checked in and they said that's not a problem! Sooo exciting. We just save ourselves nearly $600 between the resort change and mentioning that we had AP's! :dance3:

[lurkyloo]

Holy cow! We really *are* wedding twins - my birthday is Sunday! HAPPY BIRFDAY, Mistress of All Evil!! :cheer2:

Also, you rock that mushy green bean casserole! It is totally supposed to be mushy. Hello, it is swimming in cream of mushroom soup - this ain't spa food! Your FMIL will prolly shush up when the guests eat every last mushy drop of your casserole.

[lov2b@disney]

Congratulations on your big savings! Sorry about Thanksgiving! I say go with the mushy green bean casserole!! My DF is working all day Thanksgiving and my family is humdreds of miles away! I'd be happy to eat your mushy casserole!

Looking forward to hearing more!

[Kristen14]

Good luck finishing your registry! The closer to closing you go, the less busy the store will be.

My FMIL MOVED Thanksgiving! The entire family is coming to her house on Friday instead of Thursday, but Rob and I are still expected to show up on both days with a covered dish! She doesnt trust me to cook anything either... even though I'm a darn good cook and she can burn water! She told me to stop at the store and pick up a pie instead!

[mla1977]

Kristen, I'd say make the pie then put it in a box. When everyone says how good it is, fess up!

[mla1977]

Happy Birthday!:dance3: party:

I love mushy green bean casserole. We are being lazy this year. It is only me, DBF, and his little brother (no EMIL - I shouldn't say that, I might jinx it:rotfl: ). I ordered from Boston Market and I will be making the mushy green bean casserole and an apple pie (from my Kitchen Witch's Cookbook).

Maybe I should send you a Kitchen Witch's Cookbook. I'm sure there are some recipes in there for how to deal with EMILs. (Really it is a good cookbook that I got when I was studying Wicca. It is the only thing I kept when I decided to give up on it.)

[caryndisneydiva]

ohhhh, i feel so bad for you having a migraine on your birthday!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

i am TOTALLY cooking to spite fmil. she never does a darned thing for the holidays, i'm expected to do EVERYTHING. so i'm making a turkey (already thawing in the fridge :thumbsup2 ) and a bunch of italian food that she's not going to like. too bad. what IS IT with the haterific mother in laws lately. geez! happy thanksgiving to us!!!
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[Lisella]

Happy Birthday!!

I hope your head is better now. You make a nice big casserole (you should make it extra mushy LOL) and don't forget these :3dglasses :rotfl:

[Lizby]

Aww, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Sorry you weren't feeling well. I guess I am lucky because my FMIL get along fine, but I would definitely make the green bean casserole to spite her if she made a remark like that! ;)

Also, can you explain about saving on your hotel room if you have Annual Passes? We booked our room at POFQ about three months ago and we are paying way more than $99/night. Right now we just have the vouchers for the Annual Passes that come with the Escape Wedding. Is it too late to save $$$? We only put a deposit down.

[DisneySweetie]

Wow, only families could cause green bean casserole drama. Did her Thanksgiving invite say "Manners Optional." Seriously, the hostess is not supposed to criticize what her guests bring before they even bring it. That's terrible and not at all thankful. Oh well, at least your DF will appreciate your effort.

Yay for POFQ honeymoon! That's where we're going. We looked into WL as well. But I kind of like being moderate resort people. It means we can stay at WDW longer and/or go more often. At least that's what I tell myself.

Happy Thanksgiving!

[mla1977]

Okay, I am soooo hungry for some mushy green bean casserole right now. (Doesn't help that I had lunch at 1:30)

[lurkyloo]

Also, can you explain about saving on your hotel room if you have Annual Passes? We booked our room at POFQ about three months ago and we are paying way more than $99/night. Right now we just have the vouchers for the Annual Passes that come with the Escape Wedding. Is it too late to save $$$? We only put a deposit down.

You can call back and ask if they have the AP discount available for the nights you need at POFQ. As long as you have an active AP when you check in, you're ok. And some people have reported being able to check in without the active pass, but you might want to do that first just to be on the safe side...

[oneyodafan]

Happy Birthday!!!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Holy cow! We really *are* wedding twins - my birthday is Sunday! HAPPY BIRFDAY, Mistress of All Evil!! :cheer2:
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We ARE twins. That's crazy and cool.

[QUOTE=Kristen14;21862345]Good luck finishing your registry! The closer to closing you go, the less busy the store will be.

My FMIL MOVED Thanksgiving! The entire family is coming to her house on Friday instead of Thursday, but Rob and I are still expected to show up on both days with a covered dish! She doesnt trust me to cook anything either... even though I'm a darn good cook and she can burn water! She told me to stop at the store and pick up a pie instead!

This is sooo typical FMIL. :rolleyes: She's actually commented because I use a vegetable peeler instead of peeling with a knife! Like it's not good enough b/c I don't do it her way.

Kristen, I'd say make the pie then put it in a box. When everyone says how good it is, fess up!

I agree! :thumbsup2


I love mushy green bean casserole. We are being lazy this year. It is only me, DBF, and his little brother (no EMIL - I shouldn't say that, I might jinx it:rotfl: ). I ordered from Boston Market and I will be making the mushy green bean casserole and an apple pie (from my Kitchen Witch's Cookbook).
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I LOVE LOVE LOVE Boston Market. Good Plan.

[QUOTE=caryndisneydiva;21864121]i am TOTALLY cooking to spite fmil. she never does a darned thing for the holidays, i'm expected to do EVERYTHING. so i'm making a turkey (already thawing in the fridge :thumbsup2 ) and a bunch of italian food that she's not going to like. too bad. what IS IT with the haterific mother in laws lately. geez! happy thanksgiving to us!!!
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IKD, why are they haterific?? And it's sooo messed up b/c my Mom LOVES DF, sometimes I think more than she loves me. :laughing:

[QUOTE=Lizby;21865499]Aww, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Sorry you weren't feeling well. I guess I am lucky because my FMIL get along fine, but I would definitely make the green bean casserole to spite her if she made a remark like that! ;)

Also, can you explain about saving on your hotel room if you have Annual Passes? We booked our room at POFQ about three months ago and we are paying way more than $99/night. Right now we just have the vouchers for the Annual Passes that come with the Escape Wedding. Is it too late to save $$$? We only put a deposit down.

I would try to call back and say that you're an annual passholder and inquire as to weather there are any discounts and if you can take advantage of them. I asked Sawyer, my operator, if just the vouchers were okay and he said that not only were they okay, but the hotel would convert them into passes for us. hth.

Thanks Everyone for all the Birthday and Green Bean Casserole wishes! The only good thing about having to work Friday is that we get to leave the inlaws house early on thrusday. :cool2:

[lurkyloo]

I asked Sawyer, my operator, if just the vouchers were okay and he said that not only were they okay, but the hotel would convert them into passes for us. hth.

Oooh... not to rain on yer parade, but I think Sawyer was smoking something - the hotels can't turn AP vouchers into APs. You have to go to the Guest Relations at the parks or Downtown Disney. I'd hate for your plans to be messed up because you counted on activating those free APs at the hotel... :)

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Oooh... not to rain on yer parade, but I think Sawyer was smoking something - the hotels can't turn AP vouchers into APs. You have to go to the Guest Relations at the parks or Downtown Disney. I'd hate for your plans to be messed up because you counted on activating those free APs at the hotel... :)

nah, i don't care where we activate them at. My biggest concern would be if they won't accept the vouchers when we check in ensure we get the AP rate. Although it's not that big of a deal to go where ever and redeem the vouchers for actual passes. However, everything I've ever heard or read says that the vouchers are fine when checking in. :confused3

[lurkyloo]

Oh, yes - vouchers are totally fine for checking in! :goodvibes

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Whew... Where to start?

Okay, how about the day before Thanksgiving. I was at work with my Scroogie boss who didn't let me leave early! (Which is weird b/c two Thanksgivings ago he at least let me leave an hour and a half early, last year I wasn't here for Thanksgiving.) So, after I leave work I decided that I'm going to skip class. My 8pm-10pm class was cancelled, but my 6-8pm was still on. Ugh. I calculated my grade out with missing the class and I still have a solid A up to this point, so I figured I needed a night off. Especially since I had to work and go to school on tuesday, my birthday. And since I had to work all day wednesday and TODAY! FRIDAY! THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING. So, I ended up packing up my scrapbook supplies and headed off to the scrapbook store to crop with two of my best girlfriends. I had a pretty productive evening and finished two beautiful 2-page layouts. My phone was on the verge of dying, so I plugged it in to charge at the crop and saw that I had a missed call from FMIL. I listened to her voice mail and everything seemed fine. I miss heard her message though and thought that she had said that she would see us around 3pm. I was thinking, hey that's great! I can get some :laundy: done and clean up a little and then we can head over to there house in the afternoon.

DF and I are up and doing our own thing yesterday. Me cleaning and doing the :laundy: and him playing on the computer or whatever it is he does. So, I hop in the shower around 12:30 and I spend a fair bit of time getting ready. Well, at 1:15pm DF mentions that he had a missed call from FMIL but that he hadn't called her back. So, I immediately go to call her back and I see that I have 3 missed calls from her. Well, come to find out she want to EAT at 3pm (I know this is normal in a lot of families, it's just not what I'm used to with my family. We eat at normal dinner time. Usually around 6pm or so.) So, that's fine. We're going to be there by 3 anyhow, but she's all upset that we haven't been there all day. So, we rush out the door at get there by 2:40pm.

Everything appeared to be fine other than everyone was in a pretty down mood. No one had much to say. I especially didn't b/c I've been so frustrated with all the wedding drama. And the last thing I need was to *mess* up the time for Thanksgiving so now it's my fault. FFIL has metal problems but refuses to admit it or get help. He's very depressed ever since they found the cancer. Despit the fact that his surgery OVER A YEAR AGO was successful and that he's been cancer free since, he refuses to live his life. He spends every day and night sitting in the same chair and moaning about how he's sick and can't do anything and tire and the "cancer's coming back." FMIL caters to this, waits on him hand a foot and then spends the whole time being sooooooo upset. Needless to say, it's not the most ideal situation in that home and they're dealing with some messed up issues. But this has been going on for years (5+) and they choose to continue living this way and acting out the same patterns. I don't really get involved b/c it's not my place. DF is disgusted with his father and his behavior and equally dissappointed in his mother for not having the backbone to say enough is enough. She just internalizes all the stress and takes it out on everyone else. (This all comes into play with the wedding.)

After a rather blah meal, we cleaned up the kitchen and just hung out for a bit and then we decided to have coffee and pie. This is when DF decided to confront his mother on all the wedding issues. The first thing he addressed was the shower and the fact that FMIL decided that she wasn't coming and that she wasn't inviting anyone. She said she didn't think that I wanted her there!?!?! That it wasn't a big deal to me!?! I think she made this all up in her head. Even though she was the one who said that it was too much of a hassle for her to rearrange her schedule and if she was out of town it was too big of a hassle to fly back in town for a weekend. DF broke it down that she has two children, that's two weddings and two showers and this was one of them, and was she really going to act like it was a inconvienence?? As soon as DF started talking to her about it, there was no problem. She was suddenly very able to arrange things to be at the shower. And then she listed a handfull of people who (her words) "really wanted to go" but that she wasn't inviting b/c she wasn't going to be there. So that was a rather painless issue to get through.

The more challenging issue was the at home reception. We have planned on having the party at her house (they have sooooo much land perfect for an outdoor party) at her insistance. And I love the land and I've always thought it would be wonderful to have a party there. DF explained to FMIL that in order for us to plan anything we needed to set a date and be firm. There was a lot of irrational excuses on her part. She said she didn't want to set a date because "what if the party doesn't happen." She's never heard of a "save the date card" and she thinks there stupid. If people want to come, they'll come, they don't need a save the date card. She's throwing the party so people should "do things my way." She was very, very resistant. She thought it was dumb that we planned on sending save the dates with our wedding announcements to link the wedding in FEBRUARY with an at home party/reception in JUNE!!!!! DF explained to her that this was very important to him, me and our friends and people we know. Her real issue (which I had figured) was that she didn't know how FFIL was going to feel and what if they went to his Doctors appt in April or May and the cancer has come back!! What if he's sick and doesn't want to have a party?? What if, what if, what it. DF told his mom that it was absurd to spend your whole life waiting for the next doctor appt. And so what if he ends up being sick, does that mean we're not going to have a party?? EVER? Even if we delayed setting a date and sending invitations in May, FFIL could wake up the day of the party and decide he's sick. Are we going to call 150 people and cancel? She was being very irrational, and DF said that it was fine, we wouldn't have the party at the house that we would reserve an area at a park and bring everything into a park location, etc... She was very upset but not budging. Finally, She saw that DF was very serious. He told his mom she could live her life waiting for the next doctor appointment and never planning on anything, but that this was his wedding and his life and he wasn't putting it on hold. He was having a party regardless of where it was and that if she chose to miss it that was her problem. He insited that he would not put his life on hold. DF told her that we were setting a date, and we would be sending save the dates to our friends and people on our guest list regardless of whether she wanted us to send them to her people.

FMIL finally agreed to setting a date even though she insisted that she hated the "save the date idea, it's stupid, i've never heard of it in 60-70 years of my life." However, once we set a date, she started talking through all of the people she wanted to invite, many of which live out of state. I explained to her how much better it was to send them save the dates rather than just an invitation 4-6 weeks out so that they could plan on being in town. She agreed but insisted that she still didn't like save the dates b/c she's never heard of them.

Then DF brought up the whole shirt issue... which he told me wasn't a big deal and I had decided to just accept and I wasn't going to say ANYTHING. He explained to his mom how disappointed I was that she was matching the wedding party and wearing the exact same colors and that it was something important to me. She was all upset that I hadn't said anything to her and I asked her how I could when she was soooooooo EXCITED about the top? She would have cried if I told her I didn't want her to wear it. She claimed that I can talk to her and tell her anything but she responds so differently to me than she does her own children. So we came to the compromise that she would try to find something that she liked different, but if she couldn't then she would just wear the top that she already bought. Which is totally fine with me, I'm just soooo shocked that DF brought it up b/c he kept telling me how insignificant and trivial it was.

Anyhow, I think that we made some progress and things are going to go the way DF and I want them to. We'll have to see how well she lives up to everything we talked about.

Aside fromt that, I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Mine was so-so. Like my birthday, like this whole week. And now it's Friday and I'm at work. Mine is the only car in the lot. My Scroogie boss isn't even here yet, but I've been here since 8am. The phone hasn't rang at all. How sweet it would have been to stay at home snuggled up with DF and then get up and have breakfast together and then clean up and work on the million and one things that I need to get done for the wedding, for school, for my life, whatever. I'm very, very bitter that I'm at work right now. And this holiday season will put me over the edge and I will be looking for a new job directly after the wedding! :coffee: (<-- me reading the want ads, lol.)

That was a lot, thanks for reading!!

[MeowGoddes]

Stay strong!
It sounds very trying, dealing with the FMIL and all, but I kept thinking to myself while reading, wow what a great DF! Standing up for himself and you and what you guys want... it is just WOW! What it all comes down to is you and your DF and beginning this new journey together, everything else is just background music!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Stay strong!
It sounds very trying, dealing with the FMIL and all, but I kept thinking to myself while reading, wow what a great DF! Standing up for himself and you and what you guys want... it is just WOW! What it all comes down to is you and your DF and beginning this new journey together, everything else is just background music!

I KNOW!! DF has been AMAZING. He was on a roll. He never yelled or raised his voice, but he was very committed to making his points and sticking to what we want. DF let's a lot go and he's a very laid back guy. Not a lot bothers him. But it is wonderful to see him really stand up for me and for us when it really matters. I was shocked that he even brought up the shirt issue as he had convinced me to let it go.

[caryndisneydiva]

wow wendy! i'm so glad your df stuck up for you guys! your fmil seems like a peice of work...

i'm sorry that you have to work today! not to make light of your disappointment, but i quit a company a few months ago, and those people had to work yesterday...who wants to buy a house on thanksgiving!!!

things will get better, christmas time is here!!!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Things are getting done. Slowly but Surely. Saturday, we went to the post office and I applied for my passport. I was all set to pay $200 total to include the expidited service. However, the lady said that I had enough time and that it should be totally fine and she convinced me to just go with the regular service and that I should get my passport in time. :eek: I sure hope so. I don't want to be panicked at the last minute b/c my passport hasn't come in yet. Not that we've actually even booked our honeymoon yet. :rotfl2: So, it was a lot more affordable than doing the expedited. It was $67 for the passport and then $30 for the acency (post office) fee and $15 for the pictures. To expidite it, it would have been another $60 plus over $30 for the express shipping. It wasn't too difficult to convince me to save the extra $90. And my pictures came out beautifully!! :woohoo: That makes me really happy considering you keep the same passport for 10 years.

After the post office, we had a ton of running around to do. We finally made it to Macy's and registered for dishes, flatware, glasses and stemware. That's about it folks. We got most everything else at BB&B. I know I made the BB&B registering experience sound awful, but compared to Macy's, it was comfortable. In the sense that we fit in there and nearly everything we needed or wanted was available. I'm just dissappointed that we weren't able to agree on dinnerware at BB&B, b/c I would have skipped Macy's all together. The problem with Macy's, for me anyhow, is that it's trying to be nicer than it is. I remember fonder days when Macy's was Hudson's (at least here in MI) and it was the 'nicer' department store. Now, everything seems run down and disorganized and kinda thrown out there. And this isn't just the one store we went to. It's all the Macy's in the area. Maybe it's a Michigan/Metro Detroit Area thing. And we kept explaining to the consultant that we weren't registering for china or silverware or crystal but she kept pushing it on us rather than helping us identify the areas of the store we would be interested in. So we just scanned what we need and got the heck out of there. We didn't linger for too long. lol. I figured I can't fix or adjust anything I need to online. Thank goodness.

Also on Saturday, FMIL called (in the morning before we left to do our running around) and wanted to know what to get DF for Christmas. She asked if he needed clothes and socks. I said, "The man does NOT want socks for Christmas!!" Then she made the comment that she knows DF really wants a new computer but that's too much $$ and he needs to pay off his debt first! Okay, there are several reasons why this comment from her made me want to flip my lid. 1.) DF has excellent credit (high 700's) and is carrying debt from when he was unemployed after the corporation he worked for went bankrupt and layed off a ton of people. 2.) DF has been diligent in paying down his debt and working to live cash only. He charges nothing! 3.) DF would never even think to ask his Mom to buy a computer for him. 4.) FSIL is in massive cc debt and never pays her bills. EVER. 5.) FSIL has been bailed out of this type of massive cc debt twice already by FMIL. 6.) FSIL has a cc in her name that FMIL pays for and buys everything on it included a brand new macbook laptop in august and the new top of the line cannon digital camera last week! Needless to say, it really frosted my buttons that she would even say something like that. We don't really ask her for anything. She's the one who volunteers for things and then backs out of them b/c she doesn't realize how much $$ they really are. Whatever. So, I told her I'd have to figure out what DF wanted in a 'reasonable' price range and call her back. Then I remembered that DF wanted a Nintendo DS, so I called her right back and told her and even let her know she could buy it at Wal-Mart, lol. Since she doesn't venture out anywhere. She wrote it down. We'll see if she manages not to screw it up. Ugh. I'm okay. I just get frustrated that DF get's the short end of the stick. Why is that?? Oh yeah, b/c he's the boy and we have to "take care" of the girl. She's too helpless to get a job or support herself. Okay. Mini-rant over.

So, that was Saturday in a nutshell. Sunday I went to scrapbook all day. That was awsome. I finished 3 - 2page layouts done. I got home around 6 and DF and I made dinner and did laundry and cleaned up a bit. Overall, it was a productive weekend. However, I never finished my assignment due tonight (I wanted to clean up the spare room instead?!?), so I have to crank that out today while I'm at work. :rolleyes1

[lurkyloo]

Oh my gosh - you have your work cut out for you with FMIL! I'm so sorry you have to deal with all this on top of the wedding planning and the job, etc. :hug: But you are very lucky to have a supportive DF - that's what really matters! :goodvibes

[MistressOfAllEvil]

We haven't received the actual RSVP yet, but DF talked to yet another of his friends who will not be attending the wedding.

I'm so heartbroken. I just want to 'fix' it or make it better and there is nothing I can do.

DF has had 3 people (that he considered really close friends) back out on him. And the frustrating part of it all was that we discussed with each person, well before ever sending the invites, the parameters of the wedding. I don't understand why all these people agreed to go and are now backing out. All are citing money issues (which for one seems really legitimate, but the other two it's just an excuse.)

I cried all night last night, I think I might be more upset than DF (b/c I'm upset for him!) He's been amazing about it though. He confesses that he's disappointed, but beyond that he's a rock! Saying all the right things, etc. to reassure me that it's all right.

Ugh... I'll be okay. I'm just worried about DF. :sad1:

[lurkyloo]

I'm so sorry all of DF's friends are backing out, but the important thing is that his BEST friend will be there - you! :goodvibes

[PrincessBrideKatie]

I'm so sorry. Like Lurkyloo said, at least his best friend will be there. I know you feel bad for him, but just know that its going to be amazing, no matter who is or isnt there.

I'm having the complete opposite, not only is everyone saying they are going to come, there are others that want invites. And DF and I keep thinking of more people that we should have invited.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I am starting to feel the crunch, I tell you what... with my ticker showing only 66 days, it's starting to freak me out. Can you beleive that I hadn't sent in my planning worksheets yet? So, I just did that this morning and I emailed my planner too. Hopefully we'll be able to set up a phone appointment sometime soon, in the next week or so. We're not doing a lot of crazy stuff and don't have a lot of extras, so I'm not toooo worried. But I guess I just want to be reassured of all the little stuff.

[caryndisneydiva]

did you see that kirstie kelley has designed a birdcage veil for the disney bridal gown collection? i like ours better, though her's are very chic!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

did you see that kirstie kelley has designed a birdcage veil for the disney bridal gown collection? i like ours better, though her's are very chic!

oooo... yeah, I just checked it out. I don't know how I missed that or how I missed your post :confused3 I don't like it at all, but that's b/c I don't like the tulle. I prefer the netting look of ours. If I had to go with tulle, I prolly wouldn't have a veil!

So in other news... I'M PANICKED. I'm officially under two months away and I still feel like nothing is done.

First, my frustrations:

My MOH still has not sent the invitation for my January 5th Shower :scared1: Why? why? why? She's like "no worries, i've got it taken care of" but yet I have ppl asking me why they haven't gotten them yet! eek!

We still do not know exactly who is coming to the wedding. That's right folks, I do not have a count or a number or anything. After DF had all those ppl drop out on him, I felt wretched about it so I offered for him to invite yet some more ppl (even though I have on couple that I desperately want there, who are willing to come and just need an invitation!) So, the person (and family) he invited promised to respond by the weekend. It's now Thrusday and DF HAS NOT followed up. I try to stress the urgency in these matters, but he has no concept at all. I'm about ready to go crazy on my bride-groom!!! This is especially upsetting b/c I have a phone planning session with my planner Kathleen tonight and one of the questions she emailed me was guest count!! Grrrrrrrrrr!

Also, I have not started my fittings yet. My seamstress said she could get them done in aprox. 2 weeks. So I'm not super worried. But I kinda am. I still want to lose 5 more lbs. and tone up a bit more. So I can either see her this weekend or wait until the weekend between xmas and new years. I'm torn on what to do. If I wait, I'll also either have to bring my dress on the plane w/me or ship it ahead to Carolyn Allens. Otherwise, if I did the fitting this weekend, I could send it w/DF's parents at the begining of January as they will be taking the motorhome down to Fort Wilderness. Agggh! What to do, what to do.

Things that are good:

I followed up with Rosie about floral and I'm just awaiting a response. I talked to her in October on the phone, but some things have changed since then so I wanted to follow up.

I do have my phone planning session with Kathleen tonight. I think I'll feel better after that.

The school semester is almost over. I finished a huge presentation last night. I have a final next monday and next tuesday and then I'm done for the semester and feel like I'll really be able to concentrate on getting stuff done.

Okay, those are my stories for now. Nothing too exciting. Just me :scared: as :hourglass time runs out!

[Kristen14]

Dont worry, you're not the only one freaking out! I did the same thing when I passed the 2 month mark. I dont have a final head count either... even though our RSVP date was last weekend!

If you're having an escape, does your EM really need an exact number of guests? Because arent you on your own for dinner? If thats the case then assume that your newly invited guests are coming... you can always cancel later.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Dont worry, you're not the only one freaking out! I did the same thing when I passed the 2 month mark. I dont have a final head count either... even though our RSVP date was last weekend!

If you're having an escape, does your EM really need an exact number of guests? Because arent you on your own for dinner? If thats the case then assume that your newly invited guests are coming... you can always cancel later.

See, I don't know for sure... My planner actually booked my dining for me and gave me my menu options even though I'm an escape bride. She said I could/should coordinate through her. :confused3

My RSVP was November 30th and we just blew right past that, now didn't we! Grrrrrrr.

Oh well, I think I'll be more settled once I talk to my planner.

*edit... Thanks for the support too Kristen :hug:

[Bostonbride6292008]

I kinda feel like I'm in the same boat as you. My MOH hasnt done anything and I mean anything. She hasnt got her dress called me and asked about my bridal shower, bachelorette party nothing and my other BM hasnt heard from her either! I was told dont worry everything will work itself out by family members. So I would take a deep breath and just try and take it all in stride. Everything will work out for you!

[lurkyloo]

Our RSVP date was last weekend too (but that's cuz you and I have the same wedding date :cutie: ) and we also did not get all the replies. Apparently my FSIL told FMIL that she didn't send hers back because "reply cards are just a formality" :headache: Why would I put a real, live stamp on the envelope if it was just a formality?!

So I will start calling our no-reply guests next week. I'm not too proud... maybe you can just start calling your DF's guests even though it was s'posed to be his job. I mean, just to get it done...

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Our RSVP date was last weekend too (but that's cuz you and I have the same wedding date :cutie: ) and we also did not get all the replies. Apparently my FSIL told FMIL that she didn't send hers back because "reply cards are just a formality" :headache: Why would I put a real, live stamp on the envelope if it was just a formality?!

So I will start calling our no-reply guests next week. I'm not too proud... maybe you can just start calling your DF's guests even though it was s'posed to be his job. I mean, just to get it done...

I'm not too proud either. I would totally call, other than it's such a unique situation. DF had 3 people back out. That left us with 4 open spots. I felt so bad for him that I encourages him to invite a friend of his along with his wife and kids!! So we didn't actually send out an invite b/c it was so close to the RSVP date. DF just spoke to his friend on the phone. The friend offered to let him know by this past weekend (fast!) but then he didn't. And DF hasn't called. I've been in school all week after work. So.... hopefully he'll call tonight and figure out what's going on! And I'll finally be home to make sure he does. :laughing:

I actually had to call my own sister yesterday to find out why the heck she hadn't sent her RSVP back. Like dude, you're my sister, you know you're coming, you know mom is paying to make sure you're there, why not just fill the card out when you got the invitation and send it back. There shouldn't even be hesitation in that situation. Her excuse, she's been busy and forgot!
Another couple have booked their flights and I know are coming. She said she'll send it... So really the only ppl who sent back rsvps are our parents, my MOH (who is also FSIL) and the best man. So, I guess when it comes down to it, that's all we really need, lolol. I know ppl are coming, but why can't they just throw the thing back in the mail!!! Like Carrie said, it already has a stamp on it!! :headache: :headache: :headache:

[DisneySweetie]

I feel you on the RSVP thing. I didn't have any problems approaching DF's family (they're going to be my family too soon right?). But when it came to his friends that I didn't know, I needed him to do it. Sometimes I would actually queue it up and press TALK on his cell phone and pass it to him. Haahaha! If it was already ringing, he had to talk to them or leave a message right. Other times I would text his friends from his phone pretending to be him. Don't worry, DF knew I was doing it. It's not that DF didn't want to do it, he just didn't feel the need to pester his friends. Sometimes our DFs just don't understand the importance of knowing the guest count earlier than later. Good luck.

[caryndisneydiva]

people who don't rsvp just suck. period.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I left work at 4:30 yesterday to make it home by 5pm. While I was on the way home I called back my seamstress Virgina. She had left me a message yesterday morning because she hadn't heard from me yet this week. I had been planning on calling her all along yesterday afternoon. We must have been on the same wave length. I asked her about holding off on starting alterations so I could lose a few more pounds and she said that it was fine and that we had plenty of time! I'm still driving to her place tomorrow morning because FMIL wants to the get the red top of evil altered because it doesn't fit quite right. Now, she's not going to wear this top to the wedding anymore (:banana: ) but she is keeping it so she wants it to fit properly. Whatever. Since we're driving all the way out to Virgina's (it's not that far, but it seems like it b/c I don't venture to that side of town very much anymore!) I'm going to try my dress on with the shoes I bought and some Spanx (if I can find some after work today. Some said that Macy's DOESN'T carry them?? Is that right?) and see how my weight loss up to now affects the fit of the dress. But my official alteration start date will be the end of the month between xmas and new years. I've basically committed myself to either shipping my dress to CA's or taking it carry on. So, I'll be calling CA's tomorrow to see what's what! :laughing: :hourglass :scared:

I scheduled my phone planning session with Kathleen for 5pm so that it would be as soon as I got home. I didn't want to do it while I was driving since I wanted to be able look at my notes, make new notes and have my computer up with my wedding folder full of information, if needed.

Kathleen called while I was on the other line with a friend of mine and I panicked (I do this sometimes) and hit the wrong option on my iPhone. When you get a call coming in while you're already on the other line, you have the choice to ignore, hold the current line and answer, or end the call and answer the incoming call. So what do I do?? Hit ignore!!! Sometimes I'm an idiot. Srsly! :headache: I called her right back and she answered. I told her who I was and she said that she was just leaving me a message. After introductions we got down to business...

First we talked all about the ceremony. I found out one reason that they need a head count even though it's an escape wedding. They want to make sure they have an appropriate set-up. Especially tables and chairs for the cake and champagne reception right at SBP. So even though I still don't have a final number, I've established my own deadline to get it sorted out. I'm giving us until next thrusday. Next Friday I'll be giving our final number to Kathleen and that's it.

We also talked about music, which I know is huge for a lot of you ladies. Really, I just want this wedding to happen. I'm really not that invested in the details. At first I was going to pick out all these different Disney songs, but then DF pointed out that with the traditional wedding music it'll be more of a this is it kinda moment and that it will also act as a trigger
for the guests that this is it, this is that particular moment associated with that music. However, the one thing we are checking on is to see if the disney music department has sheet music for spectromagic! DF and I would love that for the recessional. I said that a mix of disney music for the cake and champagne reception is fine. DF and I are NOT having a first dance. Idk, it's just not that important to us. I asked DF if he wanted to have a dance with his mom, and he asked if I was dancing with my step-father. I said no, so he said no he doesn't want to have a dance with his mom! Well, talking with Kathleen last night we decided that they could still dance informally if they wanted, but we won't "plan" on it. I think it would make DF's mom really happy if she got a dance with her 'boy'. Whatever.

I also asked about the guys carrying Tommy Guns and she said that as long as they look like toy guns, there shouldn't be problem, but this was certainly the first time anyone has every asked for something like this. Then she questioned DF's motives for wanting 'traditional' music for the ceremony, but wanting carry a toy gun. It was quite funny b/c I started to used my standard line that this is the only thing that DF has asked for, but looking back it's NOT the only thing he's asked for. If fact, he's asked for quite a few things (not that it bothers me) and I can't explain his strange decisions or my willingness to go along any more, other than to say that I love him and I'm a sucker and I'd probably let him have or do whatever he wants b/c it's not THAT important to me. Really, all I care about is that I'm in Disney, entering into a marriage with the man I've loved for my whole adult life, and that my pictures look good (i'm a scrapbooker, what can I say :laughing: )

Finally, we talked about food. Now this was important to me. As I said before, we're having a reception dinner at Jiko. We reserved half the wine room through Kathleen. More reasons why they need a head count... they actually include the cost and the bill on consumption bar in the beo that we pay ahead of time. I had a couple of questions about the menu and the table set up that Kathleen is supposed to be getting back to me on.

All in all, I'd say it was productive. There is still a lot to do, especially on my end. But I just keep making lists and plugging away at it. Next week is my last week of the semester and I have two finals. After that I will be free, FREE to focus more on the wedding. I hope to crank as much out as I can before school starts back up in January. I think we'll be able to manage.

idk, I guess I'm still stressed. I just noticed that my whole tone sounds like I'm trying to convince myself that everything is okay. I can't pinpoint what I'm worried about, just that I am! :scared:

[Keira1387]

We had problems with RSVPing for the engagement party, and I am not looking forward to when it comes time for them to RSVp to the wedding. I know it will be a mess. But, the thing about Disney is that they will make sure everything turns out great. Your wedding will turn out beautiful!:hug:

[Kristen14]

Thanks for posting about your phone meeting. I have mine on Wednesday and I'm looking to prepare as many questions/topics as I can think of!!

I'm doing a mix of Disney songs for my ceremony. It's really the ONLY part of the entire weekend that will be Disney themed. I'm walking down the aisle to the wedding processional from the Sound of Music... I grew up on that movie and I almost cried when I saw it as a song suggestion!!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Thanks for posting about your phone meeting. I have mine on Wednesday and I'm looking to prepare as many questions/topics as I can think of!!



Yeah, I would recommend having questions ready. You planner will probably also have questions for you. If I was more prepared, rather than just having a check list of questions, it might have been helpful to have had more a worksheet... like something printed out with each of your questions with room after each to write the outcome rather than having to scribble your notes seperate from the questions. I feel pretty confident though that Kathleen made note of everything we talked about... but just in case; you never know, right?

[Kristen14]

Good idea about the worksheet! Was there anything she asked you that you didnt expect to talk about??

[caryndisneydiva]

did you guys request a 2nd phone session? or was it your planners ideas?

[MistressOfAllEvil]

did you guys request a 2nd phone session? or was it your planners ideas?

This was my first phone session. I finally faxed my planning worksheets in the end of last week?? And we set up the call for yesterday. I know I get a second session as part of the escape package, but I bet that we'll be able to hammer out the rest of the details via email.

Oh, and Caryn... if you're a canidate, get the Lasik. It was soooooooo worth it. I wasn't a canidate at first because of dry eyes, but with eye drop therapy we were able to correct the condition and go forward with the surgery. It's the most amazing thing ever being able to see the clock in the middle of the night, see in the shower, see all the time without fighting with contacts or my glasses steaming up in the winter. My biggest fear was that I wasn't going to be able to get my contacts in for my wedding day and that I would have to wear my glasses (which I liked.. a nice pair of D&Gs) and I really didn't want that to happen. I'm sooooo happy that I did it. Even if I am paying it off (0% interest) for the next year.

[caryndisneydiva]

i'm so nervous about lasik! what if the dr slips and whammo, i'm blind? my friends dad had complications and is blind in one eye now...i need it, one of my old business partners thought i took my glasses off when i went home, like they were an accessory!!! i WISH! was it expensive?

[Kristen14]

you can send me your nice pair of D&G's if you dont need them anymore :thumbsup2 lol... j/k!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

i'm so nervous about lasik! what if the dr slips and whammo, i'm blind? my friends dad had complications and is blind in one eye now...i need it, one of my old business partners thought i took my glasses off when i went home, like they were an accessory!!! i WISH! was it expensive?

It was expensive and I actually went with someone more expensive than with one of the dicount places that advertise on the radio all the time. I was able to get 0% finacing for a year though. I was completely freaked out about doing it too, but it was almost a spur of the moment type thing. I had always thought about it, but one day I woke up, fought with my contacts, said enough is enough and committed. The great thing is that the machine they use is very accurate and the one they used on me uses a map of your eye and tracks. It will pause or stop and shut down completely if your eye moves at all or too much. But I was still scared, so I understand. They gave me a teddy bear to hold onto while they did it, I thought that was nice. Poor teddy, I was stangling him!

you can send me your nice pair of D&G's if you dont need them anymore :thumbsup2 lol... j/k!

Actually, I've been meaning to go on an ebay blitz and sell some stuff. My frames are among those goodies. Why not get a couple buck out of them. They sure did cost enough when I bought them (without insurance!)

[caryndisneydiva]

It was expensive and I actually went with someone more expensive than with one of the dicount places that advertise on the radio all the time. I was able to get 0% finacing for a year though. I was completely freaked out about doing it too, but it was almost a spur of the moment type thing. I had always thought about it, but one day I woke up, fought with my contacts, said enough is enough and committed. The great thing is that the machine they use is very accurate and the one they used on me uses a map of your eye and tracks. It will pause or stop and shut down completely if your eye moves at all or too much. But I was still scared, so I understand. They gave me a teddy bear to hold onto while they did it, I thought that was nice. Poor teddy, I was stangling him!

good to know...i'm seriously considering it...i wouldn't go with a radio guy either, i think i'd pay the best most expensive person in houston to do it...did it hurt?


Actually, I've been meaning to go on an ebay blitz and sell some stuff. My frames are among those goodies. Why not get a couple buck out of them. They sure did cost enough when I bought them (without insurance!)

i have 2 prs of chanel frames, a pair of prada frames that are so old they're almost vintage and versace sunglasses. they are ridiculously expensive...especially when you're blind and your lenses cost more than the frames!!!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

good to know...i'm seriously considering it...i wouldn't go with a radio guy either, i think i'd pay the best most expensive person in houston to do it...did it hurt?






No, it didn't hurt at all. I thought it might, but it didn't. And recovery time was really quick too. They had me fill a perscription for valium and I took it right when I got to the office (my girlfriend had to go with me to drive me home) and then about a half hour later they adminstered some numbing drops. Then right before the surgery they put more numbing drops in. The most I felt was a little bit of pressure. The worst part was a little bit of a burning smell while the laser was working, but other than that, it was just some pressure. Afterwards I felt great. I started vicodine right away in the office. They taped clear plastic sheilds over my eyes and told me to sleep all afternoon and night. They said to ignore the directions on the vicodine and take what I needed to stay asleep. So I got home and fell asleep around 3pm. DF brought dinner home around 6pm so I ate and took another vicodine and slept until about 10:30, took another vicodine and slept till the next morning. I went into the office the next morning and they took the sheilds off and checked my eyes. But b/c the sheilds were clear, I could already tell that I could see! My vision was a little blurry but within a couple of days it sharpened up. They started me on antibiotic and lubricating drops. I couldn't wear eye makeup for two weeks. But I could see!!!! I didn't go back to work the very next day b/c I didn't want to drive yet (but you could if you had to), but I was fine after that! The big rules were no eye rubbing (hard for me, but I don't do it anymore), no eye makeup and use the drops. It was great, and I would go into debt again in a heartbeat! The only thing that sucks is that now I can see if I missed a spot cleaning the shower! :laughing:

[mla1977]

No eye rubbing ever?!?!? I don't know if I could manage that. My eye doc said I should hold off on any surgery because I take tae kwon do. If I got hit in the eye I could damage it.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

As a follow up to our phone planning session on Thursday, my planner sent me an email yesterday.

First things first, FOOD. As I said before, this is important to me. Now, you guys have to let me know... is it excessive to have 8 courses?? My whole dream for a wedding has always been a small, simple ceremony and an elaborate meal... Well, Kathleen was unclear on the menu options. So she got back to me yesterday and the meal I want has 8 (yes EIGHT) courses. Is that too many??? And the price of the menu went up from $120 pp to $125 pp. That's not such a big deal. It just means that we've met the minimum food and bev. requirement (if we end up having a full 20 guests) without any drinks. So alcohol will be above and beyond that. So here is the menu that I choose. Please help me justify my choice!!


Jiko Menu Number 3

Taste of Africa… Dips and African Breads

***
Appetizer Platter to Share

Lamb Patis, Lentil Pastilla, and a Market Inspired Appetizer
Served with Assorted Dipping Sauces

***

Guest Selection of the Following Starters:

Marinated Tuna

or

Maize Tamales

***

Tomato Cucumber Salad with Red Onions and Watermelon Vinaigrette

***

This Season’s Soup

***

Jiko Sorbet

***

Guest Selection of the following Main Plate:

Braised Lamb Shank

Oak Grilled Filet of Beef

Market Fish

Oven Roasted Chicken

Entrees served with our African-Inspired Vegetables and Starches

***

Jiko Dessert Sampler

A Taste Of Our Favorite Three Desserts… To Share

(Night of Event: Guest choice of Marinated Tuna or Maize Tamales and Entrée)

DF said it was fine, so I don't know what I'm worried about, other than overstuffing my guests...:rotfl:

Other dining news: We'll have to sit at two tables of 10 each. I had a sneaking suspicion this was going to be the case, and it is in fact true! I'm really bummed about it. I figured the room wasn't large/long enough to put all the tables together so we all could sit at one table. This really bums me out!

Kathleen also checked with the entertainment/music department and the DO have the sheet music to Spectromagic. It's called On This Magic Night. Lyrics courtesy DF:

On this magic night,
A million stars will play beside us,
Cast a spell of light,
Glimmering, shimmering, carouselling
'Round the world tonight,
A symphony in SpectroMagic.
Pure enchantment lights our way!

Now the bad news...
For whatever reason, we cannot postpone our honeymoon shoot for up to a year!?! We have to do it while we are there this trip. The thing is, we're not really honeymooning at Disney. After the wedding on Monday, DF is moving to a hotel in Orlando since he has a conference for work and I'm hanging out with my MOH at Disney. He's going straight to work Tuesday morning!! So now I think that I have to schedule our honeymoon shoot for Saturday morning, followed by tux fittings and then the welcome dinner that night. Hmmm. I guess it'll work. Just not what I wanted to do. Is it selfish that I'm scheduling this at Magic Kingdom, even though I know that DF would prefer to do it at Epcot? Here's the thing, yeah, I think world showcase is pretty. And yeah you get a decent shot with spaceship earth in the background from across the lagoon, BUT MAGIC KINGDOM is MAGIC KINGDOM!! When else do you get really great shots at the fountain or on the carousal? Perhaps even some cool train shots. I just think that in this case my desire outweighs his. Besides, he didn't want to focus on it long enough to make a decision last night, so I went ahead on my own (feeling guilty :guilty: )

Hmmmm... What else has happened? This past Saturday I went to my seamstress, Virgina, and tried on my dress... let me tell you... 15lbs sure does make a difference. That zipper goes up no problem now! :banana: I'm working on five more lbs. and I still want to tone up some. Especially my arms, shoulders and back, which will be completely exposed. So, I joined the community center in my city on saturday. I didn't know about it until a week ago! It's pretty new, they just built a fitness center and huuuuuge pool area. All the cardio machines are precore and pretty nice. They have weight machines and free weights for resistance training. And the best part is that there was a $20 discount on an individual membership, so I paid $38.34 for the first two months and instead of it being $19.17/month for the next 10 months, it'll only be $17.17!! That's a great price. Especially since it's not the grimy Bally's where DF goes and he pays $24/month!

FMIL also went to see Virgina with me, and she's having the red top altered, however, we went to the mall afterwards and I showed her the top that I was thinking of for her... it's a blue two piece with a shell and jacket. It has beading on the front of the shell and along the edges of the jacket. It's pretty awsome, and she liked it, she really liked it!! :cool1: So, she's taking that to Virgina next week to have it tailored a little better and she's all set for the wedding!!

Also my MOH/FSIL finally got the shower invitations out. They hit on saturday in the west (my mom is in AZ) and everyone here in MI got them yesterday. They're very pretty with glitter and what not. But I have to confess, FSIL is unique and she marches to a different beat. She decideds to take these really elegant shower invites with beautiful glitter and fill them in with a bright hot pink pen! :laughing: Then my mom calls me in a panic last night because apparently she forgot to include 3 ppl on her list for the shower and she was afraid that FSIL was going to be upset that she needed to add more people. huh? NO MOM, it'll be fine. Just email her the addresses. Keep in mind FSIL used to work at the same co. as my mom and my mom was her immediate supervisor. Why is my mom afraid of FSIL? Just do what you gotta do, it's not rocket science. :confused3

So, I think that's all the updates for now. I'm just trying to hammer out our final numbers and start wrapping up all the loose ends. 55 days to go... eek!

[caryndisneydiva]

wow, the red shirt dilema is solved! that's great news!!!

i don't like when you say you have 55 days left...that means i have less and that stresses me...:eek:

don't feel guilty about your mk honeymoon shoot idea...and don't feel guilty. all you did was use the situation to your advantage. we have to do that sometimes. besides, you'll be able to get the epcot ball in your sbp shots or other shots at the bw...

i'm confused though, why can't you postpone your honeymoon shoot? i bet they're just being difficult and you CAN do it, they just don't want to. i would understand if you wanted to do it in 2009 (for accounting reasons since it was paid for in 08 or whatever), but they're just being weird.

[lov2b@disney]

I think your menu sounds great! My DF wants to do all the options to our guests-our reception is at Narcoossee-I'm just afraid of how much it will cost! His argument is they will remember the food!!

I have to agree with you on the Magic Kingdom! Epcot is beautiful but the Magic Kingdom is unique and perfectly Disney!! GO WITH YOUR GUT!:)

Congratulations on 15 lbs-today I decides my New years resolution will be weight loss for the wedding and toning my flabby arms-nothing like procastinating until the new year!!:rotfl: Good luck on the last 5!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

wow, the red shirt dilema is solved! that's great news!!!

i don't like when you say you have 55 days left...that means i have less and that stresses me...:eek:

don't feel guilty about your mk honeymoon shoot idea...and don't feel guilty. all you did was use the situation to your advantage. we have to do that sometimes. besides, you'll be able to get the epcot ball in your sbp shots or other shots at the bw...

i'm confused though, why can't you postpone your honeymoon shoot? i bet they're just being difficult and you CAN do it, they just don't want to. i would understand if you wanted to do it in 2009 (for accounting reasons since it was paid for in 08 or whatever), but they're just being weird.


Yeah, they are just being weird. I was quite shocked when I read the email:

"The Alternate photo session does need to booked during your stay here for your wedding rather than on a future visit, so just let me know which day you'd like to do it and I'll get that scheduled"

And it's kind of a bummer b/c it's one less thing to use as incentive to get DF back to the world in the next year.

Oh and I am sooooo HAPPY the red top dillema is resolved too! I didn't want to forever look back at my pictures and be :mad:

[Kristen14]

The menu sounds really good! I've never been to Jiko. What does dessert to share mean? Dont stress about the 2 tables... you cant see/hear the person at the other end of a large table anyways. 2 tables will be lots easier to get in and out from anyways.

What did you decide with Carolyn Allens?

[Kristen14]

i don't like when you say you have 55 days left...that means i have less and that stresses me...:eek:

I AGREE!!! Lets just pretend we have unlimited time so we dont get over stressed!!:thumbsup2

[MistressOfAllEvil]

i don't like when you say you have 55 days left...that means i have less and that stresses me...:eek:



I AGREE!!! Lets just pretend we have unlimited time so we dont get over stressed!!:thumbsup2

:lmao: So, I'm not the only one completely freaked out that time is slipping by? :hourglass


I think your menu sounds great! My DF wants to do all the options to our guests-our reception is at Narcoossee-I'm just afraid of how much it will cost! His argument is they will remember the food!!

I have to agree with you on the Magic Kingdom! Epcot is beautiful but the Magic Kingdom is unique and perfectly Disney!! GO WITH YOUR GUT!:)

Congratulations on 15 lbs-today I decides my New years resolution will be weight loss for the wedding and toning my flabby arms-nothing like procastinating until the new year!!:rotfl: Good luck on the last 5!

Even though I feel like I've leveled off and been stuck for quite awhile, I think the last 5 will melt away a little easier now that I've started working out. I did the first 15 with just diet (and by diet I mean eating small amounts of good for you foods all the time, I'm a foodie and can't stand to be hungry or starve myself, that will just never work!) Moving my body is the last piece of the puzzle. Thank goodness I'm taking my last final tonight and then the semester is over and I'll have a good few weeks to reallly hit the gym.

It seems a shame though to do all this work, just to get to Disney and then our (non-disney) cruise after and eat, eat, eat our way back to not being skinny people anymore!

The menu sounds really good! I've never been to Jiko. What does dessert to share mean? Dont stress about the 2 tables... you cant see/hear the person at the other end of a large table anyways. 2 tables will be lots easier to get in and out from anyways.

What did you decide with Carolyn Allens?

I think the dessert to share means it will be a lot like the appetizer platter to share. I think it includes three different desserts in small portions for everyone to try a bit of each. This is just a huge guess though!

I'm trying to make peace with the tables. Kathleen, my planner, is going to send me a diagram so I can do a seating chart and ship place cards ahead to her.

I def. think I'm going to used Carolyn Allens and ship my dress ahead to them. I know I need to call them but I've been so busy I'm finding it hard to fit all of these tasks in. I don't want to call in between work and school while I'm in my car, b/c I want to be able to take notes to make sure I've captured all the details. Thank goodness the semester is over for me after tonight!


ALSO
Kathleen emailed me with a time for our MK honeymoon shoot... Saturday the 2nd at 9:30am. I'm okay with that. Does anyone know how long this usually lasts? I also have to schedule the tux fitting for DF and his BM for this day. And, does anyone think I'll be able to convince all the right people to get some shots on or near the train at main street??
:rolleyes1

[caryndisneydiva]

:lmao: So, I'm not the only one completely freaked out that time is slipping by? :hourglass

call me the denial queen, but time is NOT slipping by...

[Kristen14]

call me the denial queen, but time is NOT slipping by...

lol... again I agree with Caryn! ;)

Wendy, where are you going on a non-disney cruise to? Rob and I are doing Carnival's Southern Caribbean leaving out of Puerto Rico. I agree with you about the eating! thats the whole point of our disney vacation and then our cruise also! :banana:

about the pics at/near the train station.. i'm sure this will be ok, but you may want to call disney photography yourself and stress why it is important to you... they're more than willing to bend over backwards if you have a special story like that.

[hope1826]

I know I'm a bit late...but I had been lurking for some time and was too shy to write for a while... but here are my thoughts...

Your dress is gorgeous!!! I love so many of the dresses I have seen here and I LOVE my dress, but I'm actually jealous of yours. It's sooooo elegant. I wanted a trumpet/mermaid style dress, but I definitely don't have the right proportions to pull it off. You look amazing.

I am sorry about everything you have gone through with your FMIL. I don't understand why they just can't be normal and loving and accepting. One of my BM's has a theory that MILs who do not have daughters are particularly bad, but your DF does have a sister. So of course there are exceptions. I'm sure your scrapbooking help relieve some of the stress she creates.

:goodvibes

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Wendy, where are you going on a non-disney cruise to? Rob and I are doing Carnival's Southern Caribbean leaving out of Puerto Rico. I agree with you about the eating! thats the whole point of our disney vacation and then our cruise also! :banana:



We're doing a Carnival Cruise too. It leaves out of Cape Canveral which is great b/c it's soooo close to Disney. We were also looking at a Royal Carribean out of Miami, but it was more $$ and farther away, so Carnival it is. I pushed really, really, really hard for a Disney Cruise but DF wasn't having any of that. I can't understand why not! :rolleyes1

I know I'm a bit late...but I had been lurking for some time and was too shy to write for a while... but here are my thoughts...

Your dress is gorgeous!!! I love so many of the dresses I have seen here and I LOVE my dress, but I'm actually jealous of yours. It's sooooo elegant. I wanted a trumpet/mermaid style dress, but I definitely don't have the right proportions to pull it off. You look amazing.

I am sorry about everything you have gone through with your FMIL. I don't understand why they just can't be normal and loving and accepting. One of my BM's has a theory that MILs who do not have daughters are particularly bad, but your DF does have a sister. So of course there are exceptions. I'm sure your scrapbooking help relieve some of the stress she creates.

:goodvibes

Hope!! I'm sooo glad you came out of lurking. No need to be shy around here. Everyone is so friendly and welcoming. Thank you so much for your compliments on my dress. I'm still in shock over it sometimes. It was the first dress I tried on at the first store I went to! And only $600. The wedding dress deities were smiling down on me, I think. And I was really dreading the whole dress shopping experience. It's quite funny though, b/c the same day I found my dress, DF surprised me with a brand new iPhone for no reason out of no where (they had just come out the day before) and so now I will forever remember the day that I got my wedding dress as the day that I got my iPhone and vise versa. I can't quite figure out which was more exciting. I tell you what though... that was one happy day!

As far as my FMIL goes.. sometimes I feel guilty and feel like maybe I make her out to be worse than she is. Perhaps I need to just accept her for who she is. But then it would stand to reason that that should work both ways and she should also accept me for who I am. I guess it's just a very unique situation. My saving grace is my amazing DF. I know that when it comes to the big stuff, he's always going to stand by me. And he's amazing at diffusing icky situations. I guess I just need to grow a thicker skin and let all the small stuff just bounce off and not take it to heart. If I added up all the stange, mean, hurtful things she has said or done, I would add her to my 'never talk to again' list. Yet, that's just not an option. Not to harp, b/c it's not always bad. She's very generous with me. She thinks of me in different situations and can be very kind . :flower3: So, I'm pretty sure that not everything she does/says is malicious. It's really that she is (very much like me) and emotion person, and she reacts a lot of times with out thinking. And she's very old school and has her own way. Acceptance is KEY! :cheer2: I'm working on it. :laughing:

[figmentfan814]

As far as my FMIL goes.. sometimes I feel guilty and feel like maybe I make her out to be worse than she is. Perhaps I need to just accept her for who she is. But then it would stand to reason that that should work both ways and she should also accept me for who I am. I guess it's just a very unique situation. My saving grace is my amazing DF. I know that when it comes to the big stuff, he's always going to stand by me. And he's amazing at diffusing icky situations. I guess I just need to grow a thicker skin and let all the small stuff just bounce off and not take it to heart. If I added up all the stange, mean, hurtful things she has said or done, I would add her to my 'never talk to again' list. Yet, that's just not an option. Not to harp, b/c it's not always bad. She's very generous with me. She thinks of me in different situations and can be very kind . :flower3: So, I'm pretty sure that not everything she does/says is malicious. It's really that she is (very much like me) and emotion person, and she reacts a lot of times with out thinking. And she's very old school and has her own way. Acceptance is KEY! :cheer2: I'm working on it. :laughing:

I completely understand about your FMIL, sounds a lot like mine except mine doesn't really have any moments of being very kind :laughing:

[Bostonbride6292008]

I am doing a carnival cruise after my wedding too!

[DisneyLaura]

idk

First, I love your PJ. Second, your FMIL sounds lilke a piece of work I agree. My MIL and FIL are both deceased but I never had issues with them. They were both very nice to me. Third, what does idk mean? Sorry, I don't know what thay means and I can't figure it out.

Laura :flower3:

[MistressOfAllEvil]

First, I love your PJ. Second, your FMIL sounds lilke a piece of work I agree. My MIL and FIL are both deceased but I never had issues with them. They were both very nice to me. Third, what does idk mean? Sorry, I don't know what thay means and I can't figure it out.

Laura :flower3:

Thanks for reading. Sometimes I get down on myself b/c I don't have this amazing writing style like some other posters on this board. I've read some really amazing PJs and TRs with excellent tone and style.

I'm sorry for your loss. I'm glad you had such an good relationship with your MIL and FIL. To add extra fuel to the fire, my FMIL never ever got along with her MIL who just recently passed away. And she can't recognize that she does a lot of the same things to me that her MIL did to her. :idea: :rolleyes:

idk means... I don't know. idk = i don't know. :goodvibes And just for the record, I didn't know what it meant for a long time either. So I was just as lost. But once you get the shorthand, it's kinda hard to not use it. Sometimes when I'm talking about the wedding rather than saying "fiance" I want to actually say "DF" :sad2: I'm a dork. I know it's true!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

DF went and did it! Filled up two spots. He asked his friend Rosie from work. I haven't met her yet, but he claims we'll get along well. She'll already be in Orlando for the trade show they have to attend for work, so this works out well. Then he convinced his friend Nikki who lives in AZ to come. She's the only one we truely beleived was as strapped for $$ as she claimed to be. So DF is going to try to use his airline miles to get her a plane ticket and we're going to help out with her room. She's only going to come for the wedding though, not the welcome dinner. So, we'll see how it all works out. I feel like there are so many logistics to figure out on both sides and as if it's all up to me! Eeeek!

I was over booked my weekend, so I'm kinda stressed out and I'm not looking forward to work ending today. :scared1:

I also invited very, very close friends of the family to fill the other two spots. So now i'm actually waiting on them to have my firm number. I have to give them a call tonight or tomorrow to see where things stand.

Beyond that, School is officially done until the second week of January. I hope to get all my Christmas shopping done (I just started today:laughing: ). Then I want to work on place cards, welcome bags for the welcome dinner. I've decided not to do a favor for the actual wedding. I also have been encouraging both my mother and DF's mom to get there actual wedding lists together. My big goal for this break from school is to design and produce our save the date cards for our at home reception. I want to have them DONE. Lables and everything. Ready to go out right after we get married. Now, I just have to figure out how to word them. Everything I've read up on says that 'officially' it's not proper etiquette to send an announcement to anyone you invite to your wedding or your reception. Only send an announcement to those you don't invite to either. So, officially I'm sending just a save the date for the at home reception (in June.) But I want to put some sort of wording about the wedding in there. I just haven't figured out how. The onlything I've figured out is the last two lines...

So Save the Date
To Celebrate
June XX, 2008

Leading up to that though, I've got nothing. I'm not married to my lame lines either. Does anyone have any suggestions? How am I going to word these things???

[Kristen14]

Maybe instead of a save the date can you send a marriage announcement, and then on the bottom put your reception info?

[caryndisneydiva]

Maybe instead of a save the date can you send a marriage announcement, and then on the bottom put your reception info?

that's a good idea!

[lurkyloo]

That's what we're doing - sending a combo announcement/reception invitation.

"We were married
February 4, 2008
in Lake Buena Vista, FL

Please join us
April Whenever, 2008
to celebrate our marriage
at So-and-So's House
etc."

[MistressOfAllEvil]

That's what we're doing - sending a combo announcement/reception invitation.

"We were married
February 4, 2008
in Lake Buena Vista, FL

Please join us
April Whenever, 2008
to celebrate our marriage
at So-and-So's House
etc."


This is what I was originally thinking. An announcement/reception save the date (since the party will be so far out and we don't have all the details hammered out.)

So does everyone agree that doing an announcement is OK despite all the etiquette people saying it's a no-no?

[MistressOfAllEvil]

So, I mailed away to get the application for our marriage license. It arrive a little over 2 weeks ago. DF and I were going to take it to the bank last Friday to sign and get it notorized. Well, right before we're out the door, I'm looking it over and reading it out loud. I get to county and read "Oakland" thinking nothing of it. DF stops me and asks, why Oakland?? WE LIVE IN MACOMB COUNTY!!! I've lived in Oakland for a large portion of my life, but not in the past 5 years!! And I put Oakland down for both of us. We don't go to the bank. We don't get the application notorized. I sulk. On Monday I called Brevard County City Clerks Office and talk to someone, someone whose name I didn't write down, who tells me just to make the corrections to the original information request form and the actual license application and FAX them back and they will reissue the application with the correct information. I cross out Oakland everywhere and fill in Macomb and fax everything over. In a moment of panick on wednesday, I email to follow up that they received everything and what I did was correct. NOOOOO, of course not. Dianne from the clerks office emails me back asking to call her. I call and she basically says that we can take the application with the wrong county and get it notorized and just put a sticky on the thing when we mail it in saying that the county is wrong and they'll correct it. BUT, I've already crossed the county out?!?! She said that it's wrong, but it's fine. Still, just go get it notorized and mail it in and they'll take care of it. So that's what we're going to do. We plan on going to the bank today after I get off work. And I'll mail it tomorrow. Hope that they'll actually process it and issue the license in time. Needless to say I'm very angry with my blonde self :headache:

[lurkyloo]

This is what I was originally thinking. An announcement/reception save the date (since the party will be so far out and we don't have all the details hammered out.)

So does everyone agree that doing an announcement is OK despite all the etiquette people saying it's a no-no?

Sure! Sending a combo announcement/reception invite doesn't sound to me like as big an etiquette no-no as, say, listing where you're registered in your wedding invitations. (But then I'm the crazy loose cannon who didn't spell out every single word of her wedding date and time in the invitation.... :rotfl:) I think most people don't even know the rules for announcements. Besides, you're saving a tree - who could find fault with that?

I've also been calling Brevard County's marriage license department a lot lately - they're probably like "What is up with February 4th and weddings?!" I think they'll get it all taken care of in time for you (we haven't sent in our notarized application yet either).

[caryndisneydiva]

i got an email from michele saying that ours was in the mail on dec 19...they're so easy to work with wendy, i'm sure it'll be fine!

[Kristen14]

I havent even thought of getting mine yet... so you're a step ahead of me! It's gonna be a pain for both of us to be out of work at the same time :headache:

btw.. my parents are in Oakland County too... Farmington Hills. I'll be up there next week and it better snow! :cheer2:

[pooh98378]

That's really stupid that they want you to put a sticky note on it and then notarize it! If you do that, then you're notarizing false information! If you cross it out and write it in (like you did), then it's correct. That makes no sense to me... :confused3 I'm sure it will work out though :)

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I havent even thought of getting mine yet... so you're a step ahead of me! It's gonna be a pain for both of us to be out of work at the same time :headache:

btw.. my parents are in Oakland County too... Farmington Hills. I'll be up there next week and it better snow! :cheer2:

All the snow came last weekend. Over 8" worth. I don't know if we're getting any for Christmas. I do hope so. Before my parents moved to AZ, they lived at 9mile & Beech, right on the Southfield, Redford, Farmington border. I'm very familiar with east and west metro Detroit.

Our saving grace is that our bank always has a notory on staff and we can go after work on Friday (they stay open until 6pm) or Saturday from 9am-Noon. And it's free. So check your banks before you pay to have someone notorize!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

i got an email from michele saying that ours was in the mail on dec 19...they're so easy to work with wendy, i'm sure it'll be fine!

I beleive you! I have faith, really! I just want to make sure that when it's all said and done, I'm legally married!!

That's really stupid that they want you to put a sticky note on it and then notarize it! If you do that, then you're notarizing false information! If you cross it out and write it in (like you did), then it's correct. That makes no sense to me... :confused3 I'm sure it will work out though :)


:confused: I was just as confused by the whole thing myself. Oh well, I'm having faith that it'll be just fine and that they will send me an error free license that I can actually use to get married! :laughing:

[Holly81]

Hi there! I just wanted to pop in and reassure you about your marriage license woes... I got my license through Brevard County as well and had something sort of similar happen. I filled out everything correctly, but when I got the license back to be notarized I noticed that they spelled my city of residence incorrectly! I spelled it correctly on the application, so I don't know why they did that. It's also a fairly large city, so if for some reason they thought my spelling was wrong (it wasn't, of course), it would have been easy enough to look up.

Like you, I was really stressed over the situation, but I called and spoke to Diane as well and they told me basically what they told you: to just go and get it notarized and and put a sticky note on it with the correct spelling and all would be well. So I went to get it notarized and wouldn't you know it the bank manager not only put the seal on the place where he was supposed to, but he also put ANOTHER seal where Brevard County is supposed to. OMG.

So, I called Brevard County again and spoke to Michelle this time. I told her about the first issue (incorrect spelling) and then the second (too many seals). She just laughed and laughed and said something like "Wow, we spelled your city wrong and the notary put an extra seal on the license?!" She reassured me to just mail it in and everything would be fine. I kind of had my doubts but what can you do?

Turns out everything was just fine. We got the license back about a week later, with the spelling error fixed, signed and sealed by Brevard County. I was SO relieved! We were married last week, so I haven't gotten the final copy of the license back just yet. But at this point I am confident everything will be OK.

So, that was my long winded way of telling you that I am sure everything will work out just fine for you, too. It's super frustrating at the time, I know, but it will work out! :goodvibes

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Holly81: Thanks for the reassurance. Don't worry about the long post. I'm a rambler and the queen of having full discussions with my friends' voicemails. :rotfl:

Updates:

I received my BEO last Thursday. It's right around what I expected, but a little high. There is a $100 bartender fee for our BOC bar at Jiko which apparently isn't charged if we order $500 worth of drinks exluding tax and service charge. And she has our estimated consumption at 70 drinks for 19 adults for a total of $699.72. I already can tell you that's overshooting it quite a bit. Let's see, oh yeah: No floral prices yet! That's frustrating. So I emailed Kathleen back to confirm our phone appointment to go over everything and I included a question regarding when I'll receive the floral. I got an automated response since she was out of the office for the holidays. Which is totally fine, I understand, it's Christmas and all. But the really weird thing was that then I got an email from Gina Hubbard confirming my phone appt. with Kathleen. So, do you think Gina is Kathleen's assistant? And if so, she must have read my email to confirm my phone appointment, so why did she completely ignore my question about my floral quote? What do you guys think I should do? Call Rosie directly or wait for my phone appt with Kathleen on the 31st? Payment is due on the 5th of January. I wanted enough time to revise if it ended up being too high. I'd like the floral before the phone appointment on the 31st, b/c what if I do want to remove something?? Hmpf.


We celebrated Christmas on Christmas Eve this year b/c FSIL had to leave on Christmas day with her boyfriend to get to new york in time to set up for the next trade show they're working. So, everything went really well and it was relatively drama free. On Christmas day DF and I stayed home, in our PJs, ALL DAY. We didn't do anything at all. Okay, we'll I did do some :laundy: and cut up and bag veggies for this short week. But that's about it. DF oscillated between the computer and his new DS. The big excitement came when he took it upon himself to order our wedding bands!!! We've looked in all the stores and had a good idea of what we wanted, so he just went ahead and ordered them online (for much cheaper.) I don't have any pictures since this was his endevor, but my band is just a simple 14k 3mm White Gold band. DF went with Tungsten with alternating brushed and polished stripes. It looks good and he likes it, so that's all that matters. We got both of these really cheap. I think both together were less than $125. :goodvibes

Of course my posts are never complete though, without some drama! Yesterday, my FSIL/MOH informs me that she would like to push back my bachlorette party a week b/c she wants to fly to DC the weekend my party is currently scheduled for b/c it's her bf's birthday! I totally understand her wanting to be with her BF on his birthday. Really. But let's recap. The whole reason I've gone through all the earlier shower drama was because she was out of town and the date we picked together was the only time that worked for her. The PLAN was that she would come home the weekend of the 4th and then be home for all of January before the wedding. So we set the Shower for the 5th and the bach. party for the 12th. My other bm is handling the bach. party and she's already called everyone for the 12th! (except my moh/fsil?!? which I think might be my fault?? I maybe listed the wrong number for fsil, but bm called me and I called her back with the right number. so I would think that she would call.) Now, when it's less than 3 weeks away, she wants to change the date?!? I know that my BM is having trouble with ppl not RSVPing (BIG SHOCKER! :headache: ) so I was thinking of scrapping the whole bach. party thing, especially if FSIL isn't going to be here. Me and my bm can hit a local dive bar and if someone wants to come, they can, but it won't be a fancy production. I tried calling FSIL back last night to talk to her about everything, but she didn't pick up. I don't want to talk behind her back, but I'm really disappointed that this couldn't have come up sooner! Like maybe a few months ago. :scared: We'll see what happens. Hopefully I'll talk to my BM today and from there I can figure out what to tell FSIL. I kinda feel like if she wants to go to DC to see her BF, then she should go. But I don't think I should have to move my party for it. Idk. We'll see.

Finally (And to end on a positive note :rolleyes1 ), I've found jewelry! It's quite funny actually. For as much as I've heard everyone talk about the swarovski jewelry, I never really, really looked at it. Until yesterday! And man was I taken. I absolutely fell in love. I bought these earrings off of ebay:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/earrings.jpg

They're $93 retail. I bought them for $69.99 plus $8 for s&h. Not a great discount, but good enough.

This is the matching necklace that I want. One was sold on ebay recently in the $170's, but there aren't any now :mad: It retails for $232.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/regularneclace.jpg

This necklace retails for $530, but it's on for less than $300 on ebay. But I just don't like it as much. If I'm going to pay that much, I may as well pay retail for the one I like! Basically, it's wider and seems to be almost too much to me...

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/widenecklace.jpg

And here's the really inexpensive pendant that is from the same line that I can get for less than $100, but I don't like it at all :headache:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/pendant.jpg
(I dislike it so much, I left it out of the post the first time around, lol)

So, my questions to all of you are: 1.) Will this design even go with my dress? And what about the birdcage veil? Is it too much? To refresh your memory, my dress and veil:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/Front2.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/birdcageveil_kristab_sitting.jpg

And 2.) What should I do about the whole necklace thing? Go with my heart and pay retail for the one I want??? (the necklace in the first picture!) Really, more with this jewelry than even with my dress, I had the ah-ha! This is it! moment. And I'm thinking since it's 2007 Swarovski, they may end up discontinuing it and worse comes to worse, I can sell it on ebay after my wedding. Thoughts???? :confused:

[caryndisneydiva]

I received my BEO last Thursday. It's right around what I expected, but a little high. There is a $100 bartender fee for our BOC bar at Jiko which apparently isn't charged if we order $500 worth of drinks exluding tax and service charge. And she has our estimated consumption at 70 drinks for 19 adults for a total of $699.72. I already can tell you that's overshooting it quite a bit.

i had the same issue, i had them lower my estimate from 6 drinks per person to 3. it significantly cut down my beo. i'm not sure how it is for intimate, but my $1500 should be enough to cover anything we go over on...

Let's see, oh yeah: No floral prices yet! That's frustrating. So I emailed Kathleen back to confirm our phone appointment to go over everything and I encluded a question regarding when I'll receive the floral. I got an automated response since she was out of the office for the holidays. Which is totally fine, I understand, it's Christmas and all. But the really weird thing was that then I got an email from Gina Hubbard confirming my phone appt. with Kathleen. So, do you think Gina is Kathleen's assistant? And if so, she must have read my email to confirm my phone appointment, so why did she completely ignore my question about my floral quote? What do you guys think I should do? Call Rosie directly or wait for my phone appt with Kathleen on the 31st? Payment is due on the 5th of January. I wanted enough time to revise if it ended up being too high. I'd like the floral before the phone appointment on the 31st, b/c what if I do want to remove something?? Hmpf.

since your deposit is due so close to your phone meeting, i would call and try to get someone on the phone from disney floral...

And 2.) What should I do about the whole necklace thing? Go with my heart and pay retail for the one I want??? (the necklace in the first picture!) Really, more with this jewelry than even with my dress, I had the ah-ha! This is it! moment.

you just said it! you had the ah-ha moment, your heart wants it...GET IT! you can always ebay it after your wedding. i think it will totally go with your dress! either of them will really...

[lov2b@disney]

I agree go with the necklace! Anything that gives you the ah-ha you should definately have!! btw I think it will look great with your dress:)

[Lisella]

Love those earrings! Great find. If you had an AH-HA moment with that necklace, then I say get it.

I would also get on the phone with Disney, or email Gina back (and copy Kathleen - or vice versa) on the floral. Your balance is due too close to the phone meeting and you should be able to process the price they give you and make changes if you want.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I'm now having wedding nightmares on a regular basis. Everything is coming together, but I'm soooo freaked out that it's all going to fall apart.

I got a call from Kyle today from the Brevard County today. They received the application with the crossed out county. He was very stern in letting me know that it was unacceptable. He said he would 'check into it' and call me back. True to his word, he called right back and let me know that they would 'take care of it' this time but that it couldn't happen again. Like what, I'm going to get married through their courthouse every other week or so? :rotfl: All in all, that's one less thing to worry about.

My shower is this weekend. EEEEK! My friend asked me if I was excited. More than anything, I'm anxious. Our families have never really met, so I don't know how well everyone is going to mesh. And some of my family on my mother's side is sketchy at best and we hardly associate with them. But my mom insisted that we should 'include' them. So, this Saturday is going to be one big akward lunch.

I broke down and bought the swarovski necklace this past Saturday for retail. But I'm confident that I'll be able to sell it on ebay after my wedding. The matching earrings that I bought off of ebay arrived on monday along with mine and Chuck's wedding bands.

Chuck also got measured for his tux on Saturday and then I took care of submitting all the info to Carolyn Allen's on Monday. His best man finally emailed me back, so I'm sure he'll get his tux order squared away in the next few days.

I also had the fabulous task of rearranging our room reservations. I got everything set and we even booked the room for the best man and paid the deposit. But now I have to call them back b/c I haven't received confirmation on that reservation yet.

I finally today got my complete BEO. The extra floral is only $314, so I don't think that's too bad. Since it took so long to get our final number, Kathleen said that we don't have to pay until the 11th. I thought that was nice of her to give a bit of extra time to go over everything. I'm hoping to leave everythign the way it is, but ultimately my mom will have the final say.

Ummm... I'm sure there's more, but it's the end of my day and I need to get out of here. I've got to get to the book store to start researching my books for next semester (I have to the get the ISBN #'s to buy them off of amazon and half.com) and I've got just a million little things to get done tonight. And I'm hoping to make it to the gym. We'll see.

:scared:

[DisneyLaura]

Wow, a lot has happened since I last read your PJ. For some strange reason I don't know when there's an update on my subscriptions. Anywoo, I love your necklace and earrings and I know it's late but they will look fabulous with your dress. Have fun at your shower, it'll be ok. Families tend to sit on opposite sides the room anyway, me and DH have been married for 11 years and our families do that with family functions (my kids' birthday parties). No worries just enjoy your day.

Laura:flower3:

[lurkyloo]

No feelings of doom and ickiness allowed, missy! ::cop:

Your plans are all coming together, and it's going to be a fabulous wedding! :cheer2:

[caryndisneydiva]

WENDY! you are not allowed to feel doom or ick! 33 days girl! it sounds like you have a lot done, marriage license, tuxes, ressies and fantabulous necklace (you're right, you will be able to sell it later if you want). don't worry about your shower. that's YOUR day. don't feel responsible for everyone getting along, they're all grown adults. just throw them some extra champagne and leave it be...ENJOY YOUR SHOWER! it'll be so fun for you!

[caryndisneydiva]

did you see that katherine heigl from grey's anatomy totally copied us and wore a birdcage????

[lurkyloo]

did you see that katherine heigl from grey's anatomy totally copied us and wore a birdcage????

Where? Where?! I wanna see!

[caryndisneydiva]

Where? Where?! I wanna see!

i'm a hijacking pirate: today...

it was on access hollywood or one of those entertainment shows tonight, i think the pics are in US or Oh mag...

[MistressOfAllEvil]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/280_kheigl_weddingdress_080103_okma.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/heigl1.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/wendykampe/mini-Katherine_Heigl1.jpg

I'm def. a Kat fan, but (and I hope I don't offend anyone) I am NOT feeling her dress. Love the veil though. Makes me feel a little better, lol. :dance3:

Thanks for all the support yesterday. I think it was just an off day b/c the holidays are over and I had to have a crappy wedding dream the night before. I know everything will work out!

I'm picking up my dress tonight. And then I'm sending it this weekend with my FILs in the motorhome to FL. They're off to Fort Wilderness as long as the weather isn't too bad and they can get out of Michigan. I'm trying to pack up as much as possible and send it with them. But I feel like I'm drawing a blank. I'll send my dress, shoes, jewelry, the guest book and markers... I'd like to send the veil but I haven't done my hair trial yet, sooooooo....... Idk how I'm going to transport the veil. You can't really crush it down. I'm freaked out about packing it in my luggage to go on the plane. Hmmmmmm. I'd also like to send completed welcome bags with them, but I don't have completed welcome bags, LOLOLOLOL.

Okay, I'm a little better today, sorry for all the earlier ickiness.

[mla1977]

I agree about her dress. It reminds me on one that I wore in high school (freshman year - 17 years ago:scared1: ). I have my mom saving all of my formal/semi-formal dresses for me to maybe make a quilt out of them, but I still can't believe I wore that one!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

did you see that katherine heigl from grey's anatomy totally copied us and wore a birdcage????

Srsly, I think this is the first and only thing I've ever been cutting edge on! :lmao: And I have only you to thank Caryn! I wasn't even going to wear a veil! I would have never been able to articulate the look, but the minute I saw it I knew it was perfect!!!! I now have renewed excitement!!! Now the only question is how to get the thing to FL without crushing it! Suggestions??

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I agree about her dress. It reminds me on one that I wore in high school (freshman year - 17 years ago:scared1: ). I have my mom saving all of my formal/semi-formal dresses for me to maybe make a quilt out of them, but I still can't believe I wore that one!

You gotta give it to her, she's one thin chick, but yeah... all the ruffle up top?!? I don't get it. Guess that's why my dress is so plain, err.. I mean simple and elegant. Yeah, that's it!

[BayouPrincess]

Guess that's why my dress is so plain, err.. I mean simple and elegant. Yeah, that's it!

Your dress is not overly decorated it is simple and elegant with classic lines, but it is absolutely gorgeous and you look fantastic in it!:worship:


Last night Caryn wrote in my PJ about getting a fascinator to go with my red dress, I had commented on how classicly hollywood glamouous you and Carrie and Caryn will be with your birdcage veils and gorgeous dresses and fascinators! Just breathtaking!

[hope1826]

You gotta give it to her, she's one thin chick, but yeah... all the ruffle up top?!? I don't get it. Guess that's why my dress is so plain, err.. I mean simple and elegant. Yeah, that's it!

LOL... your dress is GORGEOUS and elegant!!

And yeah I was wondering about her dress.... She looked beautiful, but I don't understand the ruffles or the fabric. I think a stylist or someone must have told her that ruffles are going to be the next big thing. I just hope this doesn't start a big stiff ruffle trend.

[oneyodafan]

That's what we're doing - sending a combo announcement/reception invitation.

"We were married
February 4, 2008
in Lake Buena Vista, FL

Please join us
April Whenever, 2008
to celebrate our marriage
at So-and-So's House
etc."

I love this idea! I suggested something like that to my SIL. We'll see how she does it.;)

[MistressOfAllEvil]

That's what we're doing - sending a combo announcement/reception invitation.

"We were married
February 4, 2008
in Lake Buena Vista, FL

Please join us
April Whenever, 2008
to celebrate our marriage
at So-and-So's House
etc."

I love this idea! I suggested something like that to my SIL. We'll see how she does it.;)


Yep, this is what we're going to do too! Our second half will be worded a bit differently since it'll be a STD instead of having all the actual info. I was playing around on zazzle.com yesterday and I'm thinking of doing postcards. Simple, easy, done. I just don't have the stamina to create 200 STD's from scratch. I mean, I could do it, I worked in a scrapbook store and kitted stuff out all the time. But by the time I got done paying for all the supplies and factor in my time, I think $.64 or $.69 a post card is very reasonable!

[caryndisneydiva]

wendy, i love your dress. it's fantastic looking. i wanted something like that but my hips are huge...anyways...

BIRDCAGE VEIL TRANSPORTATION

i'm having a similar issue. i bought this huge round styrofoam thing, but i think it might be too big for the veil...my problem is that i have to carry on my dress shoes jewelry handbag, cathedral veil and the cage in one bag. i'm thinking this isn't going to happen, since mark's suit is easily folded into the top of a carry on, we'll have 2 carry on's with our wedding attire...so i'm going to stuff it with either the styrofoam ball or with a ton of tissue paper and put it CAREFULLY into a carry on. heck. maybe i'll just wear it on the plane.

[lurkyloo]

ll or with a ton of tissue paper and put it CAREFULLY into a carry on. heck. maybe i'll just wear it on the plane.

OMG - you should totally wear it on the plane, with a glamorous little pencil-skirt suit and gloves the way women used to travel :cutie: They would prolly upgrade you to First just to class up the joint!

[Lisella]

OMG - you should totally wear it on the plane, with a glamorous little pencil-skirt suit and gloves the way women used to travel :cutie: They would prolly upgrade you to First just to class up the joint!

OMG - I love this idea. You both should absolutley wear them on the plane! Are you two heading to Orlando around the same time? Wouldn't that be hilarious if you arrived the same day and people happened to notice 2 birdcaged brides wondering about the airport? We would of course need pictures :thumbsup2

[lov2b@disney]

OMG - I love this idea. You both should absolutley wear them on the plane! Are you two heading to Orlando around the same time? Wouldn't that be hilarious if you arrived the same day and people happened to notice 2 birdcaged brides wondering about the airport? We would of course need pictures :thumbsup2

Loving this! :rotfl: :lmao:

[Rora]

Hey there, I've just gotten around to reading everyone's PJs (I've just started my own wedding planning and cant stop, lol). Let me first start off by saying how much I loooovee your dress! It's so elegant and you look great in it. The birdcage is so classy and will go perfect with it. Also, it's funny that you and lurkyloo are wedding twins. Too cute! Glad the red top issue is resolved *whew*! Just wanted to leave you my comments and say congratulate you. Not too much longer until you are a Mrs.! Looking forward to more of your updates!

[BayouPrincess]

OMG - I love this idea. You both should absolutley wear them on the plane! Are you two heading to Orlando around the same time? Wouldn't that be hilarious if you arrived the same day and people happened to notice 2 birdcaged brides wondering about the airport? We would of course need pictures :thumbsup2


I LOVE :love: this idea! I would love to be a fly on the wall and see that! I think you should wear them!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

hey all, I have soooo many new developments and no time to post them. I hope to get my latest updates up this weekend. Perhaps Sunday while I'm recovering from my bachlorette party! Eeek!

[MeowGoddes]

What a tease! ;)

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I'm skipping the update on my shower. I'll come back to it. Right now I need to vent about something else.

That something else would be the Best Man. I would have never anticipated something like this.

He has been dragging his feet for a while on making reservations and getting a flight. Well, he actually told me before xmas that he wanted to have everything set. So after christmas came and went I sent him an email to follow up and get everything taken care of. I went ahead and booked him a room since we were paying for one night anyhow since Chuck was staying with him the night of the wedding. Deposit = price of one night stay. So just this monday he IM's me through google chat to let me know that him and his new bride have had an emotional weekend and that he can only fly in on the day of the wedding. And he has to fly out the same day!

So, he will NOT be there for the welcome dinner.
he will NOT be there for a tux fitting.
he will NOT be there to spend time with Chuck the night before the wedding.
Chuck will be alone the night before the wedding. This makes me deeply sad for Chuck and freaked out for myself at the same time. Someone needs to be with Chuck the night before the wedding. Some best man.
he will NOT be able to stay for the reception dinner. His flight is out at 6:53pm. Our dinner starts at 5pm.
he will be there just for the ceremony and the cake and champagne toast and pictures.

I almost feel like why even bother.

The Back Story:

Chuck's best man Anthony just got married in November. He married Erin. Erin and him dated on and off for a couple of years. Prior to that, Anthony had dated Chuck's sister Christie for quite a few years on and off. He was head over heels for Christie and while she led him on, she never was really attracted to him and didn't want to be with him. Because of his actions prior to their marriage, Erin does not want Anthony in Florida with Christie for any amount of time. She's been invited. She doesn't want to come b/c Christie will be there. Now I understand that she doesn't like Christie (an understatement.) But for goodness sake. He married you, you have to trust your husband. I understand that Anthony's marriage is young and he is trying to preserve it. But, I still can't help but be completely devestated by this.

I don't even know what to say. I run through the list and there hasn't been one person that hasn't in some way made things more difficult for me.

Chuck's parents.
Chuck's sister.
My parents (to a lesser extent)
My sister
My friends
Chuck's friends

I really just feel like throwing in the towel. I don't even want this monster of a wedding that I never had a vision for. So now it's turned into a hodgepodge circus of a show (not even a fancy circus like cirque!)

I know this isn't all Anthony's fault. But it's like that straw that broke the camel's back. I just didn't expect this from ANTHONY of all people.

I feel defeted. I would be happier if I could just go to Disney by my self. I don't want all these people there. Trying to coordinate and entertain them is the dumbest idea I've ever had.

I've asked Chuck more than once why we even need to have a wedding. I'm all about city hall!! He said because he has to actually have a wedding for his mom. We all know his mom doesn't like one thing I'm doing with this wedding. It's not the elaborate, italian affair that she wants. Heck, there's no dancing! So I'm planning a wedding, quite literally ON MY OWN (not even Chuck has really contributed). My FSIL/MOH is galavanting across the country and hasn't been around for support. My other bridesmaid is a young mother and her bf/baby daddy left her a week before xmas and if she was on the verge before now she's completely fallen off the wagon and is drunk all the time. I have no way to help her, I don't even know what to do. I've had NO SUPPORT (except for my faithful DIS friends) and I just don't want to do it any more. I'm so over it and I'm so done.

[caryndisneydiva]

oh wendy! pixie dust for you my friend! if it were me, i'd just forget about all that cra*@ and go to disney for YOUR wedding with chuck and not worry about anyone else. just concentrate on him and be thankful that you're not a spiteful rat like anthony's wife who doesn't care about anyone but herself.

this really stinks that all of this is going on right now, when your wedding is so close, but-you know what they say, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger! sooo mushy and cheesy but true!

hang in there. i have faith that everything WILL turn out 100% fantastic for you! and feel free to vent to us anytime you want!

[mla1977]

Dump the family and invite 18 of your closest DIS friends! :)

[figmentfan814]

I'm so sorry to hear about all the stress that you have been under :headache: For the initial problem, is there anyone else that you think could spend the night before the wedding with Anthony? Maybe another relative or another friend that is coming to the wedding, even his sister?

I'm sure we can all relate to the stress you're under being so close to your wedding. I looked at my mom the other night and said, "I am so over this wedding." Besides the wedding everyone expects you to be their personal travel guide too! Kris is living in another state right now, so he isn't any help either. All I can say is that I know where you're coming from and I completely understand your stress :confused3

Just remember your wedding is in a little over 3 weeks and then it will all be over and you can be relaxed again :cloud9: Afterwards none of this stress will matter and you'll be happy that you actually went through with the wedding.

[caryndisneydiva]

Dump the family and invite 18 of your closest DIS friends! :)

this is a great idea!

don't worry wendy, mark is of NO help to me at all either. is it possible for you to call the evil wife and plead your case? not that that's exactly something that i would do, but it's an option...

[lov2b@disney]

So, so sorry!!:sad2: :hug:

Try and remember the big picture! It's you and chuck :lovestruc that is what it is about! All of the rest really stinks. People can be so inconsiderate! :mad:

:grouphug:

[hope1826]

:hug: :goodvibes

I'm so sorry Wendy! I know how you feel. I'm having similar problems, that's why I stopped writing in my PJ. I don't really have any suggestions, because I'm at a loss for what I can do myself. I guess just try to focus on yourself and your relationship with Chuck. This is a formality that will be over soon.

It really seems like we are so focused on making our wedding such beautiful experiences for all of our guests and our DFs but no one is focusing on making that day a beautiful experience you us, the brides!! I don't think it's fair. But you have to try to just focus on how beautiful your day will be regardless of everyone else being inconsiderate babies.

I've been fighting with my DF, yesterday and today. He's been miserable since he proposed in October because he doesn't understand why I have to plan so much and why we can't play video games and go out every night for the next few months. I try to explain that it is very simple, because he said "NO" to the 8 person wedding I wanted at Disney, I am planning the 46 person Disney wedding, and the 200 + NJ reception that he and his parents wanted. And since Tinkerbell doesn't really exist, somebody has to plan.

I'm done also. Everyone seems so selfish and obnoxious. And I am starting to regret that I am not a Bridezilla. I definitely feel for you and am wishing you the best on your wedding day (and the days leading up to it). :hug: :goodvibes :flower3:

[B2B-2008]

I don't really know what to say but I just wanted to send you a :hug:

My DF hasn't got a Best Man at our wedding. He did ask his close friend but they said they couldn't afford it even after that had come into some money but then went and booked their own wedding for just a few months after us. All this after they said they didn't want to marry for another three years. People are funny and sometimes its better just to let them get on with it than worry over them.

I am worried over my DF being on his own the night before the wedding. But my brother is staying in the same hotel and he said he will look after him.

[stitchlet]

Oh Wendy, I'm so sorry to hear about all the stress and sadness you are going thru right now.

I wish I could offer some real advice, but all I can say is try to remember that this truly is about you & your DF and what the two of you want. Everybody else is so determined to force their own personal dramas on you, you've just got to find a way to turn their noise down.

Hang in there and know that we're all here for you pixiedust:
Bonnie

[Desnik]

I feel so bad that you have to be so stressed out! This should be an exciting time for you. Everything that you all have mentioned is exactly why I wanted no part of a big wedding when it was my time 10 years ago. I was so happy when I found out I was pregnant and my dad said, "go get married" and off to city hall DH and I went! At the time it was the best thing we could've done! Now, I regret not doing it and so does DH and that is why we are having a VR at WDW. This should be about the couple making a life long commitment and celebrating that. Not who can't come because of some x girlfriend or others demands for what they want for your wedding! Trust me ladies if you don't take a stand now and tell them all that this is you and your fiances day and you will do it your way and not let them ruin it for you, you will regret it and make yourself miserable. I don't think that is being a bridezilla! If people didn't book their room yet, or have complaints, then too bad! Let it go and don't worry or loose focus on what this day is really about about. You will never please everyone. Good luck and hang in there!!!

[lurkyloo]

So now it's turned into a hodgepodge circus of a show (not even a fancy circus like cirque!)

:rotfl: I think this is a bright spot - even in the middle of all this, you still have a wicked sense of humor.

As others have said, this sounds like the point where you have to strap on those :cool2: and stop caring about pleasing anybody but you and DF. You have obviously bent over backward trying to please everyone else, and if it isn't working, let it go.

It might go something like this: So what if the Best Man was only there for the ceremony - you still got married! In Disney! Or maybe you don't need attendants at all... maybe there are other things that are driving you nuts organizing that you can drop. Menu cards? Favors? Welcome bags? Be ruthless!

WE can help you with your wedding! Just let us know what we can do! :hug:

[Keira1387]

:hug: I'm so sorry. Everything will work out!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

oh wendy! pixie dust for you my friend! if it were me, i'd just forget about all that cra*@ and go to disney for YOUR wedding with chuck and not worry about anyone else. just concentrate on him and be thankful that you're not a spiteful rat like anthony's wife who doesn't care about anyone but herself.

this really stinks that all of this is going on right now, when your wedding is so close, but-you know what they say, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger! sooo mushy and cheesy but true!

hang in there. i have faith that everything WILL turn out 100% fantastic for you! and feel free to vent to us anytime you want!

I hear you. I've gone through sadness and anger. What are the other stages of greif?!? Chuck is pretty shaken up on this one. So now I feel even worse.

Dump the family and invite 18 of your closest DIS friends! :)

:thumbsup2 Brilliant. Now how do I get rid of the pesky nay-sayers and drama creators?

I'm so sorry to hear about all the stress that you have been under :headache: For the initial problem, is there anyone else that you think could spend the night before the wedding with Anthony? Maybe another relative or another friend that is coming to the wedding, even his sister?

I'm sure we can all relate to the stress you're under being so close to your wedding. I looked at my mom the other night and said, "I am so over this wedding." Besides the wedding everyone expects you to be their personal travel guide too! Kris is living in another state right now, so he isn't any help either. All I can say is that I know where you're coming from and I completely understand your stress :confused3

Just remember your wedding is in a little over 3 weeks and then it will all be over and you can be relaxed again :cloud9: Afterwards none of this stress will matter and you'll be happy that you actually went through with the wedding.

I'm so sorry that any of us have to have these sorts of experiences. Notice it's not even the wedding itself that is causing this stress. It's all the people envolved. These people are supposed to be our closest friends and family. I just don't understand how we got to this point!

Chuck has a girlfriend coming in from AZ (who's plane ticket we paid for, by the way! :rolleyes: ) who may stay with him. So he won't be completely alone, I guess...

My mom offered to have my step-father take him out and get him drunk to which I started crying! I don't want him depressed, drunk and then hung-over on our wedding day. She promply said she was joking. :sad2:

this is a great idea!

don't worry wendy, mark is of NO help to me at all either. is it possible for you to call the evil wife and plead your case? not that that's exactly something that i would do, but it's an option...

Chuck actually adressed Erin directly. (see below) Again, I can't blame her 100%. Anthony did do a lot to create this situation. However, now that they are married, she's gotta exercise that trust clause, I would think! What do I know?!?

So, so sorry!!:sad2: :hug:

Try and remember the big picture! It's you and chuck :lovestruc that is what it is about! All of the rest really stinks. People can be so inconsiderate! :mad:

:grouphug:

Yeah, I'm coming back to the main points. With everyones help. I get to marry Chuck. We're get to be in Disney. Then we'll be married. That's exciting. And really all that should matter!

:hug: :goodvibes

I'm so sorry Wendy! I know how you feel. I'm having similar problems, that's why I stopped writing in my PJ. I don't really have any suggestions, because I'm at a loss for what I can do myself. I guess just try to focus on yourself and your relationship with Chuck. This is a formality that will be over soon.

It really seems like we are so focused on making our wedding such beautiful experiences for all of our guests and our DFs but no one is focusing on making that day a beautiful experience you us, the brides!! I don't think it's fair. But you have to try to just focus on how beautiful your day will be regardless of everyone else being inconsiderate babies.

I've been fighting with my DF, yesterday and today. He's been miserable since he proposed in October because he doesn't understand why I have to plan so much and why we can't play video games and go out every night for the next few months. I try to explain that it is very simple, because he said "NO" to the 8 person wedding I wanted at Disney, I am planning the 46 person Disney wedding, and the 200 + NJ reception that he and his parents wanted. And since Tinkerbell doesn't really exist, somebody has to plan.

I'm done also. Everyone seems so selfish and obnoxious. And I am starting to regret that I am not a Bridezilla. I definitely feel for you and am wishing you the best on your wedding day (and the days leading up to it). :hug: :goodvibes :flower3:

Hope!!! :hug: :flower3: I know it gets so overwhelming, you don't even want to post anymore. It takes the fun right out of it. You've hit the nail on the head about how I feel! I haven't wanted to be a bridezilla and I think I'm doing okay. But again, I think everyone has taken that as license to crap all over us! I'm sorry it's been so rough for you. :hug:

I don't really know what to say but I just wanted to send you a :hug:

My DF hasn't got a Best Man at our wedding. He did ask his close friend but they said they couldn't afford it even after that had come into some money but then went and booked their own wedding for just a few months after us. All this after they said they didn't want to marry for another three years. People are funny and sometimes its better just to let them get on with it than worry over them.

I am worried over my DF being on his own the night before the wedding. But my brother is staying in the same hotel and he said he will look after him.

Ugh, I speechless. I'm sorry you've had to go through this. I don't think anyone should have to go through this. It's awful and wrong and ugh! :hug: :flower3: :hug: Is there anyone who can spend time with DF the night before? Father? FFIL? anyone?

Oh Wendy, I'm so sorry to hear about all the stress and sadness you are going thru right now.

I wish I could offer some real advice, but all I can say is try to remember that this truly is about you & your DF and what the two of you want. Everybody else is so determined to force their own personal dramas on you, you've just got to find a way to turn their noise down.

Hang in there and know that we're all here for you pixiedust:
Bonnie

Thank you Bonnie!! I appreciate all the kind words from you and everyone!


This is the email that Chuck sent to both Erin and Anthony. Is it weird that I'm posting it here? I have no shame. (you'll also see that Chuck's a little lost about the wedding to, b/c we are having the cake and champagne toast directly after the ceremony before pictures and our dinner later. LOL.)

Erin,

I'm assuming you are involved in this same day flight thing happening am I right? Does this have to do with my sister? In case it does, I just want you to know a few things here...

First and foremost, I can understand how you feel and I can't fault your for your emotions. I don't feel it justifies the situation, but I can't fault you for being uncomfortable.
None of that in the past has anything to do with me...matter of fact I always made it a point to keep things separate. Don't ask, don't tell...I didn't want to be involved and never was. Perhaps some of my disbelief on what's going on here is because I don't know all the details that would lead to this happening so I can admit that without reservation.
I already paid for a night for Doc's room because I was going to stay with him the night before my wedding. Now I'll be alone. Pretty sad for me but I'll manage.
If the tux doesn't fit or something crazy happens where something is absurdly too small (like happened with me for your wedding) then nothing can be done to fix it. Which adds worry.
I started out with 2 best men...basically my 2 best friends...1 dropped out completely already, you can imagine how that feels for something that is once in a lifetime. Now to add insult to injury, there's complications with my other.
My best man is now going to miss my wedding reception. And although I'm not a big wedding guy, the one thing I've always looked forward to was the wedding toast. I guess I'll toast myself now.

I'll spare you the rest about if you didn't trust him then you shouldn't have blah blah blah, my support of your wedding and other stuff since I'm at work and I'm starting to come apart here which is embarrassing. I can only hope that I'm completely wrong here and this seemingly selfish situation is a complete misunderstanding.

Doc,

I know you gotta do what you gotta do and what you feel is right. You always do the right thing so if this is what you had to do, whatever the reason, then it was a good decision and I don't fault you. I got some rumblings that this might happen but I didn't want to jump to conclusions so I left it alone. Call me next time yeah? If you had to cut back this much it must be pretty bad so I appreciate that you were able to come at all so I'll always remember the effort.

Sorry for the email as opposed to a phone call or calls but I can't muster the will to pick up the phone right now. And sorry for directing this email to Erin and not through you I hope you can forgive me for that and for not waiting until I calmed down before sending.

[lov2b@disney]

:sad2: Oh boy! That letter sent tears to my eyes! Send a :hug: To chuck!!

[caryndisneydiva]

i'm interested to see the response to his email. i don't understand that girl at all. mark was engaged once before, several years ago. he dated that girl for a long time, then i came along and .... that girl is a mess. she comes to the club when he's working, snubs me, won't have anything to do with me, but i STILL offered to invite her to our wedding. she of course is a petty little witch and won't be there, but my point is that it's always better to be the bigger person. she see's mark and i together all the time, she knows i'm real, that i'm here and that she has no chance. i think anthony's wifey could do with a maturity pill. i've been in her exact situation and have learned that if you continue to make an issue of it, an issue IT WILL BE.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I feel so bad that you have to be so stressed out! This should be an exciting time for you. Everything that you all have mentioned is exactly why I wanted no part of a big wedding when it was my time 10 years ago. I was so happy when I found out I was pregnant and my dad said, "go get married" and off to city hall DH and I went! At the time it was the best thing we could've done! Now, I regret not doing it and so does DH and that is why we are having a VR at WDW. This should be about the couple making a life long commitment and celebrating that. Not who can't come because of some x girlfriend or others demands for what they want for your wedding! Trust me ladies if you don't take a stand now and tell them all that this is you and your fiances day and you will do it your way and not let them ruin it for you, you will regret it and make yourself miserable. I don't think that is being a bridezilla! If people didn't book their room yet, or have complaints, then too bad! Let it go and don't worry or loose focus on what this day is really about about. You will never please everyone. Good luck and hang in there!!!

It's like in When Harry Met Sally and Carrie Fischer's character is like, "You're right, you're right. I know. You're right."

Thank you for the kick in the pants. I need to get my :cool2: permanently affixed to my face!


:rotfl: I think this is a bright spot - even in the middle of all this, you still have a wicked sense of humor.

As others have said, this sounds like the point where you have to strap on those :cool2: and stop caring about pleasing anybody but you and DF. You have obviously bent over backward trying to please everyone else, and if it isn't working, let it go.

It might go something like this: So what if the Best Man was only there for the ceremony - you still got married! In Disney! Or maybe you don't need attendants at all... maybe there are other things that are driving you nuts organizing that you can drop. Menu cards? Favors? Welcome bags? Be ruthless!

WE can help you with your wedding! Just let us know what we can do! :hug:

Is it weird that I kinda wrote that line for you?? And that you picked it out? :upsidedow

The only thing that actually pertains to the wedding that I'm still freaking out about is my whole welcome bag/ favor situation. But I don't have the stamina to address that now. Perhaps after we recover from this crushing blow. lol.

:hug: I'm so sorry. Everything will work out!

Thank you!!! :hug:

[MistressOfAllEvil]

:sad2: Oh boy! That letter sent tears to my eyes! Send a :hug: To chuck!!

If I wasn't crying before, I was after I read that!! I feel so wretched for him.

i'm interested to see the response to his email. i don't understand that girl at all. mark was engaged once before, several years ago. he dated that girl for a long time, then i came along and .... that girl is a mess. she comes to the club when he's working, snubs me, won't have anything to do with me, but i STILL offered to invite her to our wedding. she of course is a petty little witch and won't be there, but my point is that it's always better to be the bigger person. she see's mark and i together all the time, she knows i'm real, that i'm here and that she has no chance. i think anthony's wifey could do with a maturity pill. i've been in her exact situation and have learned that if you continue to make an issue of it, an issue IT WILL BE.

I've said a million and one times that all she needs to do is show up somewhere where Christie is and be the bigger person. Right there she would gain all this imaginary control in the situation. But she is so insecure that she can't even muster that! It's really quite sad.

I've invited her to come a million and one times and she refuses. Doesn't want to be around Christie, doesn't want to take the time off work, etc... :rolleyes:

[hope1826]

Hope!!! I know it gets so overwhelming, you don't even want to post anymore. It takes the fun right out of it. You've hit the nail on the head about how I feel! I haven't wanted to be a bridezilla and I think I'm doing okay. But again, I think everyone has taken that as license to crap all over us! I'm sorry it's been so rough for you.


It's Ok, my wedding is 3+ months away, and every day I'm trying to focus on my needs and DFs needs more and more and everyone else's stupidity less and less.

Besides the magical UPS fairies just arrived and we are installing our brand new Wii! Maybe I will stop planning the wedding!!

Your DF's letter was good. I hope it helps the situation. :hug: Your wedding will be fabulous!!

[Tabetha]

Wowzers. I'm really sorry to hear about all of this. What a cruddy thing to do to you guys... as if you deserve to be punished because the new bride is insecure...

Why doesn't she come with him, and avoid the "meanie" who doesn't want her husband in the first place?

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Why doesn't she come with him, and avoid the "meanie" who doesn't want her husband in the first place?

She's that insecure!! Doesn't want to breath the same air! :confused3

To be honest though... we can't totally blame her. Anthony did create this situation! The guy deserves some of the blame. :teacher:

[lurkyloo]

Is it weird that I kinda wrote that line for you?? And that you picked it out? :upsidedow

We're wedding twins - we have a psychotic link! :lmao:

[MistressOfAllEvil]

We're wedding twins - we have a psychotic link! :lmao:


:rotfl2: <-- that's me. I've gone psychotic!

[B2B-2008]

My DF is OK about being with my brother the night before the wedding, his dad also doesn't want to go to our wedding. His mum will also be at the hotel so its not all bad.

He has got the attitude that if they don't want to be there it is their loss.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

My DF is OK about being with my brother the night before the wedding, his dad also doesn't want to go to our wedding. His mum will also be at the hotel so its not all bad.

He has got the attitude that if they don't want to be there it is their loss.

pass along a :hug: for your DF. He's so right, if they don't want to be there, it is there loss. AND the people who are there for him (and you) are the people who really do care, and really do matter!

[Kristen14]

Oh Wendy, I know exactly how you feel! I've had a breakdown like this every month since we've been planning. I've been doing everything by myself also, and you're right it isnt easy. My parents live up in Michigan, and they've been great, but can't really help from there. My future in laws have been absolutely awful... everyone laughs when I call my FMIL the monster in law, but she truly is! She screams and yells at me at the top of her lungs for no reason... even when I'm being nice to her! The other day I asked her to read a reading at our wedding and you would've thought I asked her to come dressed in a big bird costume or something! I dont know why I even bothered. Then there's my Matron of Honor, my best friend Erin who I love. She just gave birth to her second son, and wont be able to play as large a part in our wedding as I would've liked. She'll drive up the day of the wedding for pictures and the ceremony, but she can't come to the rehearsal/rehearsal dinner and she'll leave right after the ceremony. All this drama on top of all the endless craft projects sure is stressful, but like Desnik said, I know i'll regret not having this wedding. I'm sure everything will work out for you. Keep us updated! :grouphug:

[B2B-2008]

pass along a :hug: for your DF. He's so right, if they don't want to be there, it is there loss. AND the people who are there for him (and you) are the people who really do care, and really do matter!

You hit the nail right on the head:)

I hope everything works out for you both.

[Desnik]

MistressOfAllEvil
I feel so bad for your DF, especially after reading that email! He wrote it very well, he should be proud of himself for stating his feelings like that! I would love to hear their response.

I think all you ladies dealing with all these wedding problems need a big :grouphug:

I wanted to also add that your families should've had to have delt with my sister! She was BRIDEZILLA!!! Her wedding was just on Dec. 29th and she was a complete nightmare! This was her 2nd wedding and she had a huge one the first time around and wasn't that bad then. This time it was like she was possessed! By the time we walked down the aisle we were so glad to be rid of her!LOL:lmao: We told her DF, take her please!! :scared1:

[DisneyLaura]

Dump the family and invite 18 of your closest DIS friends! :)

I second that.

Why doesn't she come with him, and avoid the "meanie" who doesn't want her husband in the first place?

I agree. She should come too.

Wendy - I'm so sorry this is happening to you and your DF, I hope this doesn't sound mean but your best man's wife needs to grow up a little.

[cseca]

Oh man... that is stupid... not you of course. That little witch you're talking about. :mad:
How could someone be so selfish?!?!?!?
I mean why punish your hubby's bf when it's your own hubby's actions that was messed up... good grief...

anyways, take a real deep breath. If you can, take a couple days off from this planning and just spend time with your DF. Try to get you two to focus on the good things in your life and maybe by the time you come back to planning, it will all be not as painful.

I have to say that your DF letter is very classy... I hope you two can figure out your next plan.
If we live in FL I'd loan you my DF to be your BM... ;) He's a quiet kinda guy but he's trainable as a BM... :laughing:

Hugs to you both and if I could be of any help pm me... :grouphug:

[DisBride2007]

Aww... situations that would be stressful normally are about 1000 times worse when it's right before your wedding! Try to keep cool, it's hard, but remember, it will all be worth it when you're walking down the aisle toward your sweetie! :grouphug:

[yearbook50]

I'm so sorry about the stressing.

I can freak out on anyone you need me to starting the 5th so if people give you drama at the ceremony. I'm good at being the mean one.

[mcarthur205]

I'm so sorry for all the stress you're under! I've been reading your PJ - you deserve to have an amazing wedding and I'm sure you will have, in spite of the issues you're dealing with now...

:hug: :hug:

[Lisella]

Wendy, I am so sorry that you and your DF are having to deal with all of this. I will send lots of pixie dust and good thoughts your way...

Even if part of the blame is the Best Man's fault, it was very selfish and rude of his wife to pull this now - at the 11th hour. He made a commitment to your DF to be the best man - it's just wrong for her to insist and wrong for him to agree to make all of these changes at this point.

Just try to focus on the 2 of you (you & your DF, that is). No matter what, it is about the 2 of you. I've read that there are a number of others that have also been difficult with your relationship and wedding planning...maybe they all don't completely understand what a Disney wedding is all about and they probably don't understand what a good healthy relationship & marriage is all about.

Keep your head up and make the best of it. Like Carrie said, in the end you both will be able to say that you are married and that you had a Disney wedding - both beautiful and wonderful events. Yes, let go of everyone else's problems now - you have done more than your share of worrying about making them happy. It's your turn to be happy now. :flower3:

[Tabetha]

She's that insecure!! Doesn't want to breath the same air! :confused3

To be honest though... we can't totally blame her. Anthony did create this situation! The guy deserves some of the blame. :teacher:

Humph. Some relationship!
I've got all my digits crossed for a positive outcome for you guys. Your wedding will be wonderful no matter what.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I'm so sorry about the stressing.

I can freak out on anyone you need me to starting the 5th so if people give you drama at the ceremony. I'm good at being the mean one.

:laughing: This made me laugh out loud. That's for the offer, but I'm pretty sure if any freaking out needs to be done, I'll be up for it! :scared1:

Humph. Some relationship!


Yup!!! It's crazy isn't it.


BEST MAN UPDATE:

So, both Anthony and his wife Erin responded to the emails that Chuck sent. Erin claims that she's been on Anthony to get all the details figured out and to book his flight, etc... Anthony backed his wife up and told Chuck that it has nothing to do with Erin, that it was his own fault for not figuring things out sooner. And that he couldn't miss that much time from work?!? So, I know they are both totally lying. But, he did change his plans and now he's going to come in on Sunday and leave on Tuesday. So, he'll be there the night before the wedding to stay with Chuck and he'll be there for the whole day monday. He still won't be there to actually get his tux fitted and he'll miss the welcome dinner. Oh well. What can you do. I'm happy he'll be there for Chuck's sake, but this has really left a sour taste in my mouth.

I can't believe we're 3 weeks out. I can't wait for this to all be over!! lol.

Oh and my bachelorette party was Saturday. Whew. It was a doozie. And I was sick. I think I still am. But, I had a good time. So now I've gotta get pictures up from that and my shower. Soon, I promise. :rolleyes1

[Desnik]

Thanks for the update! Obviously it sounds to me like the were lying and he was just covering for his wife! That's really sad. I am glad for your DF that he won't have to be alone the night before his wedding and that his BM won't miss the reception. However, I'm sure this will effect there relationship in the future. Can't wait to see pics of you bachelorette party!

[padisneyfour]

Sorry to hear all this, but unfortunately you would think that special events etc would bring out the best in people( esp. friends) but sometimes they actually bring out the wrost. Just remeber it truly is your day with your DH and enjoy....

[Kristen14]

I'm so glad your best man was able to figure out a solution. Hopefully it's smooth sailing from here on out! Good luck in the last 3 weeks!

[Lisacope]

Ditto what MLA said!!!!

[figmentfan814]

I'm glad to hear that things worked out a little better with the best man situation. :goodvibes I can't wait to see the pictures from the bachelorette party and the shower!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Ditto what MLA said!!!!

I tried running it by Chuck. He didn't really respond. I don't think he gets that you guys get it! know what I mean?? So, he must not have realized my seriousness. LOL.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I was just informed on Saturday that my wonderful FMIL wants to "surprise" me by having as favors 5 jordan almonds in mesh (I'm assuming that means tulle) tied with a ribbon with strips of paper with our names and date.
(WHICH WE KNOW IF I DID IT, IT WOULD LOOK AMAZING, I AM THE SCRAPBOOKER AND CRAFTER... HOWEVER SHE'S DELEGATED THIS TASK TO MY FSIL... NOT QUITE AS CRAFTY AND WE DON'T AGREE ON STYLE OR FASION AT ALL.)

I hate to sound petty. And I know I'm about to right here. And no offense to anyone who likes Jordan Almonds either. But ***?!?

It is not her place to come up with favors and then "surprise" me with them. The only reason I know about them is b/c FSIL told me b/c she's actually been put in charge of making this happen.

Last time I checked it was still my wedding. Therefore, I should be planning it. Things shouldn't be done to "surprise" me in the arena of guest favors. And you know what, I personally HATE HATE HATE Jordan Almonds.

I would just like to reiterate that this is not her wedding. She already had a wedding!!!!!!!!!!!! UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2:

[mla1977]

And you know what, I personally HATE HATE HATE Jordan Almonds.

I would just like to reiterate that this is not her wedding. She already had a wedding!!!!!!!!!!!! UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2:

I so absolutely agree with you. I think they are the most disgusting thing in the world (and I'm Italian).:sick: I told my BFF that they are expressly forbidden from any event thrown in honor of me. If I were to arrive at my bridal shower and they were there, I would leave (taking the presents with me though:thumbsup2 )

I am completely on your side with this one.

[Mermaid_Ariel]

UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate those!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :headache:

[Lisella]

Hmmm, did you already have something planned for favors? Or can you think up something quick? I'm just thinking that you could tell your FSIL that you already have/or are working on/or ordered/or planned on a particular favor. This way you can try to kind of squash the jordans without it being an issue - you don't need any more stress at this point. I think you have more than reached your quota...you've probably reached about 6 brides stress quotas :rotfl:

[helloirishkitty]

Is there anyway you could "lose" the box of jordan almonds? I never really understood the whole tradition of having them...

I would say something. Your FMIL is WAYYY out of line with "surprise favors".

[autumnbride2B]

You probably don't want to hear this, but no one will remember whether or not you had the jordan almonds or not. Maybe some guests who think that they are a reception necessity will notice and remember, but no one else will. There are things that are worth stressing about, but this really doesn't need to be one of them. My FILs surprised us with M&Ms with our initials in little organza bags. We put them in the welcome bags and didn't think about it after that. Everything seems like a huge deal this close to the wedding but you will drive yourself crazy if you worry about everything.

[mla1977]

Is there anyway you could "lose" the box of jordan almonds? I never really understood the whole tradition of having them...

I would say something. Your FMIL is WAYYY out of line with "surprise favors".

They are a traditional Italian wedding favor. I do believe her FMIL is old school Italian too. They are supposed to represent good luck or something like that. I personally can't stand them and would be pissed if they were at my wedding.

[caryndisneydiva]

i outlawed the yucky jordan almonds from my wedding. they are seriously gross. seriously. i do have an idea though...at the end of the ceremony, when they're supposed to blowing bubbles at you, your guests can "casually" toss them at your fmil...just a thought!

[BayouPrincess]

i outlawed the yucky jordan almonds from my wedding. they are seriously gross. seriously. i do have an idea though...at the end of the ceremony, when they're supposed to blowing bubbles at you, your guests can "casually" toss them at your fmil...just a thought!

I Love :love: :love: :love: this idea! I think if you can't "loose" the box of them...then that should be the plan. You need something incredibly relaxing. A drink and a massage! :goodvibes

I'm not opposed to "suggestions" that I have the opportunity to say "NO" to, but this is ridiculous. This is your wedding and if you don't want Jordan Almonds...then it's NO JORDAN F-ING ALMONDS!

Geeze, I just don't get people.

Lots of pixiedust: to you to get through this. Please tell me your FMIL has not invited herself on your honeymoon...THAT would be it!

pixiedust: pixiedust:pixiedust:pixiedust:pixiedust:pixiedust:

[madfelice]

Ok, best I can make out you have pretty much planned and executed everything for your wedding all by yourself, and with a definate lack of approval from the fmil who has not wanted to help as you because you are not throwing the elaborate Italian 5000 guest deal SHE would like you to have. NOW however she has decided to "surprise" you with something that would be a definate thing at the "traditional Italian affair" if you had gone with what she would have liked to plan. Sounds like she is just trying to insert her wishes into your wedding and make it just that little bit more like what SHE wants.
That said, it is possibly also somewhat of an olive branch and she possibly thinks that she is doing you a huge favour as she would see them as a necessary part of the wedding and possibly think that you either do not know about them or have forgotten them and that she is being of great assistance on providing them. She could just be trying to help.
Is there any way you can let her know that you don't want them? Slip it into conversation that your favours are X and that you decided on them because the almonds are not considered really great these days. Or you could even say that you chose not to have the nuts because so many people have nut allergies these days or something or go further and say that a large amopunt of your guests are almond intollerant. You could even tell FSIL that there are a lot of people allergic to almonds on the guest list so they might not be the best thing and have HER break it to FMIL. A little corny, but a thought!

[lov2b@disney]

i outlawed the yucky jordan almonds from my wedding. they are seriously gross. seriously. i do have an idea though...at the end of the ceremony, when they're supposed to blowing bubbles at you, your guests can "casually" toss them at your fmil...just a thought!

:rotfl: :rotfl2:

[Starr W.]

I was just informed on Saturday that my wonderful FMIL wants to "surprise" me by having as favors 5 jordan almonds in mesh (I'm assuming that means tulle) tied with a ribbon with strips of paper with our names and date.
(WHICH WE KNOW IF I DID IT, IT WOULD LOOK AMAZING, I AM THE SCRAPBOOKER AND CRAFTER... HOWEVER SHE'S DELEGATED THIS TASK TO MY FSIL... NOT QUITE AS CRAFTY AND WE DON'T AGREE ON STYLE OR FASION AT ALL.)

I hate to sound petty. And I know I'm about to right here. And no offense to anyone who likes Jordan Almonds either. But ***?!?

It is not her place to come up with favors and then "surprise" me with them. The only reason I know about them is b/c FSIL told me b/c she's actually been put in charge of making this happen.

Last time I checked it was still my wedding. Therefore, I should be planning it. Things shouldn't be done to "surprise" me in the arena of guest favors. And you know what, I personally HATE HATE HATE Jordan Almonds.

I would just like to reiterate that this is not her wedding. She already had a wedding!!!!!!!!!!!! UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2: :cool2:


Yuck Jordan Almonds! You could plan a covert operation and swipe them before the wedding:idea: .

My sister actually likes those things.

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Okay, the first thing I have to say is that everyones responses to the Jordan Almonds has really cracked me up! :thumbsup2 This is exactly what I needed in this situation.

You probably don't want to hear this, but no one will remember whether or not you had the jordan almonds or not. Maybe some guests who think that they are a reception necessity will notice and remember, but no one else will. There are things that are worth stressing about, but this really doesn't need to be one of them. My FILs surprised us with M&Ms with our initials in little organza bags. We put them in the welcome bags and didn't think about it after that. Everything seems like a huge deal this close to the wedding but you will drive yourself crazy if you worry about everything.

Oh, it's okay. I already knew I was being petty about this. I know I should let it go. I know it's not (in the grand scheme of things) a big deal. But it still P*SSES me off to no end. For a lot of reasons. Some that have already been listed here. Some that have to do with knowing this woman for 11 years and knowing how she loves to play the underdog/ martyr. Instinctively knowing that she's "surprising" me with this b/c she already knows that I would say no to it if she actually suggested it to me.

They are a traditional Italian wedding favor. I do believe her FMIL is old school Italian too. They are supposed to represent good luck or something like that. I personally can't stand them and would be pissed if they were at my wedding.

So true. The exact number of each favor according to FSIL is 5 for good luck. And the thing is... she tells me this as I'm discussing with her what I PLAN ON DOING FOR FAVORS. Keep in mind this is also my MOH who has been MIA. And she says, it's really important to mom. Well, what about what really important to me???

i outlawed the yucky jordan almonds from my wedding. they are seriously gross. seriously. i do have an idea though...at the end of the ceremony, when they're supposed to blowing bubbles at you, your guests can "casually" toss them at your fmil...just a thought!

This would be mean and cruel. (:rolleyes1 ) I am willing to be totally kind and gracious on my wedding day. UNLESS someone (anyone) decides to step out of line or do something that I've expressly stated that I'm against.

I Love :love: :love: :love: this idea! I think if you can't "loose" the box of them...then that should be the plan. You need something incredibly relaxing. A drink and a massage! :goodvibes

I'm not opposed to "suggestions" that I have the opportunity to say "NO" to, but this is ridiculous. This is your wedding and if you don't want Jordan Almonds...then it's NO JORDAN F-ING ALMONDS!

Geeze, I just don't get people.

Lots of pixiedust: to you to get through this. Please tell me your FMIL has not invited herself on your honeymoon...THAT would be it!

pixiedust: pixiedust:pixiedust:pixiedust:pixiedust:pixiedust:

Thanks for getting it. No matter how absurd it is.

Ok, best I can make out you have pretty much planned and executed everything for your wedding all by yourself, and with a definate lack of approval from the fmil who has not wanted to help as you because you are not throwing the elaborate Italian 5000 guest deal SHE would like you to have. NOW however she has decided to "surprise" you with something that would be a definate thing at the "traditional Italian affair" if you had gone with what she would have liked to plan. Sounds like she is just trying to insert her wishes into your wedding and make it just that little bit more like what SHE wants.
That said, it is possibly also somewhat of an olive branch and she possibly thinks that she is doing you a huge favour as she would see them as a necessary part of the wedding and possibly think that you either do not know about them or have forgotten them and that she is being of great assistance on providing them. She could just be trying to help.
Is there any way you can let her know that you don't want them? Slip it into conversation that your favours are X and that you decided on them because the almonds are not considered really great these days. Or you could even say that you chose not to have the nuts because so many people have nut allergies these days or something or go further and say that a large amopunt of your guests are almond intollerant. You could even tell FSIL that there are a lot of people allergic to almonds on the guest list so they might not be the best thing and have HER break it to FMIL. A little corny, but a thought!

I think your first theory of making this wedding more how she wants it is pretty spot on. It's annoying and frustrating. This is something that she wants. Pure and Simple. I'm sure I'm going to talk to her. Let her know there's a limit on how many things I can set out. Let her know that I've taken care of and planned my favors. I even emailed my planner yesterday as I was stewing over this. Since they're going to be in a tulle or mesh, maybe I can get my planner to say that that's a no go for the Animal Kingdom Lodge. It's a stretch, but it doesn't hurt to try, right?

I just wish that if it was a surprise, it was really a surprise and that FSIL didn't tell me. That way when it happens, I can hate it, but at least I wouldn't need to stew over it for three weeks before it happens.

[lurkyloo]

I am willing to be totally kind and gracious on my wedding day. UNLESS someone (anyone) decides to step out of line or do something that I've expressly stated that I'm against.

So... is that a "no" to the blowing an airhorn as we pass your ceremony on a friendship boat thing...? :rotfl:

[MistressOfAllEvil]

We will prolly be on the boat from the BoardWalk to the Beach Club as your ceremony starts, which I think means we'll go right by you at Sea Breeze Point! I'll be sure to bring an air horn... :rotfl:

I think they have that really loud horn right on the boat. So, you can def. have them blow it during our ceremony. :woohoo: If you can't tell, DF and I really aren't big ceremony people... so it's not like it will 'ruin' anything for us!

So... is that a "no" to the blowing an airhorn as we pass your ceremony on a friendship boat thing...? :rotfl:


No, no, you can blow the air horn. It has been discussed, agreed upon and falls 'in line' with my expectations. (why isn't there a smiley with a clipboard checking things off????? WE NEED THAT!)

[MistressOfAllEvil]

My email to Kathleen yesterday while I was stewing (it doesn't sound too jaded, angry or against the jordan almonds, does it??)

Hello Kathleen,

My future mother-in-law has decided she wants to "surprise" me with Jordan Almonds at my dinner reception. Since we'll be at Animal Kingdom Lodge, I wanted to check to see what materials were restricted. Is a tulle or mesh material to wrap them going to be a problem?? Please let me know. Thank you!

Wendy

Her immediate response:

Wendy-

Doesn't sound like they'll be much of a surprise :) That shouldn't be a problem, but I'll verify with the restaurant manager. You'll have the room diagram tomorrow, okay? Thanks!

Kathleen

And then her response today, sent with the diagram of seating in the room...

Wendy-
Here is the room diagram for Jiko's private room (such as it is- my computer drawing abilities are about as good as my regular drawing abilities!). I also attached an actual picture of the room for you to help you envision the room. We should be able to flip the tables the other way if you'd prefer, or we can also do the smaller tables of four each. Let me know, and I'll set it up with the restaurant, okay? I also checked on the favors and Animal Kingdom Lodge is very wary of having anything that could possibly get blown over into the animal enclosures (same reason there's no balloons, straws, etc.). If you want, we can hand those out directly after the ceremony at Sea Breeze Point- just put them in a small basket or something and I can take care of it for you. Thanks!

Kathleen Reynolds
Escape Weddings Coordinator
phone: 407-566-6278
fax: 407-566-2723
email: kathleen.m.reynolds@disney.com

So can I just tell MOH and FMIL that it's a no go??? I don't want to offer the alternatives (pass out at the ceremony, package differently, etc...)

[lurkyloo]

Yes! Yes yes yes! This is perfect. Just tell them the bags are restricted at AKL. Now how do we keep them from figuring out the "pass them out at SBP option"....:rolleyes:

[sunsh1ne]

it mightbme nice for them to havd them to the guests as a little munchy after the ceremony. i dont mean to go against the majority. but hay two gifts for the guests aint bad. and some might like it. i say just do it why cause to much drama for yourself. i am sorry if i made you upset but sometimes we get ourselves to upset for little things. remmeber it will all be wounderful as you let it be!!

[mla1977]

sunsh1ne-

Have you ever had Jordan Almonds? Blech! As a guest, I certainly wouldn't appreciate them as a snack right after the ceremony. I'd probably toss them right in the trash!

[sunsh1ne]

yes i have had them i am italian so as you know they make an apperance at many event. i am not saying they are the best but it is a bag of almonds once the guest has them is they throw them out so be it but some may like it
i dont want to argue i am just saying some things are not worth a fuss. but again it is her wedding if it is that big of a deal then tell the mom no.

[hope1826]

also checked on the favors and Animal Kingdom Lodge is very wary of having anything that could possibly get blown over into the animal enclosures (same reason there's no balloons, straws, etc.)

Congrats!!

Yes! Yes yes yes! This is perfect. Just tell them the bags are restricted at AKL. Now how do we keep them from figuring out the "pass them out at SBP option"....

Maybe you can use the same reason as Animal Kingdom Lodge... The fish or ducks or loch ness monsters in the lake by Sea Breeze Point may choke on any tulle (mesh) that may blow away.

I totally understand the concept of keeping the peace, but being that my FMIL sounds like your FMIL's twin, I vote for putting your foot down.

I've allowed a lot of small things in the name of trying to limit drama and being the bigger person, but now there is a rumor that my FMIL may "surprise" my DF and I with a priest ready for a blessing ceremony at our at home reception the week before our wedding. I don't think it's possible for a number of reasons, including the fact that I am NOT catholic, so I'm not going to stress about it. But my point is that I think that there should be a very clear consistent effort to help your FMIL, and mine, understand that they are NOT in control of their sons weddings, marriages, lives, future children, etc. or they will end up doing a lot worse.

:flower3: :hug:

[caryndisneydiva]

you have it IN WRITING that they are not allowed at dakl. done. i still stand with my original idea. especially since they'll now be a part of the ceremony.

do you know that they make silver jordan almonds? gross...they look like you're eating metal...

[sunsh1ne]

Congrats!!



Maybe you can use the same reason as Animal Kingdom Lodge... The fish or ducks or loch ness monsters in the lake by Sea Breeze Point may choke on any tulle (mesh) that may blow away.

I totally understand the concept of keeping the peace, but being that my FMIL sounds like your FMIL's twin, I vote for putting your foot down.

I've allowed a lot of small things in the name of trying to limit drama and being the bigger person, but now there is a rumor that my FMIL may "surprise" my DF and I with a priest ready for a blessing ceremony at our at home reception the week before our wedding. I don't think it's possible for a number of reasons, including the fact that I am NOT catholic, so I'm not going to stress about it. But my point is that I think that there should be a very clear consistent effort to help your FMIL, and mine, understand that they are NOT in control of their sons weddings, marriages, lives, future children, etc. or they will end up doing a lot worse.

:flower3: :hug:


that is all i was saying was try to keep peace but if she is doing this alot and you have the planner saying no then i agree with the majority.
good luck with whatever your choice may be.
it will all work out

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Yes! Yes yes yes! This is perfect. Just tell them the bags are restricted at AKL. Now how do we keep them from figuring out the "pass them out at SBP option"....:rolleyes:

I'm not even offering the "pass themout at SBP" as an option. If they ask, I'll just say the logistics make it difficult. Which is true. Which is why I'm not passing out ANYTHING at the ceremony, nor was I planning to do favors at the dinner reception. I've been going back and forth about favors at the reception, but I think I should stick to my original plan of NO favors at the reception and welcome bags + a favor at the welcome dinner. Nice, easy (:laughing: ), done.

it mightbme nice for them to havd them to the guests as a little munchy after the ceremony. i dont mean to go against the majority. but hay two gifts for the guests aint bad. and some might like it. i say just do it why cause to much drama for yourself. i am sorry if i made you upset but sometimes we get ourselves to upset for little things. remmeber it will all be wounderful as you let it be!!

You haven't upset me. And I know you're speaking from a reasonable place. I stated in the begining that I was being petty about this. BUT, it is MY wedding. SHE had her wedding already. And I HATE jordan almonds, or pretty much any of the same old cookie cutter crap that you get at weddings. More reasons why I'm having a disney wedding. I don't want all the traditional favors or trimming at my wedding that no on wants anyhow!

sunsh1ne-

Have you ever had Jordan Almonds? Blech! As a guest, I certainly wouldn't appreciate them as a snack right after the ceremony. I'd probably toss them right in the trash!

:rotfl: I don't know anyone who enjoys the things... I haven't ever actually seen anyone consume one even when they were provided. Besides... we're having cake and champagne right after the ceremony. :thumbsup2 I'm with you... boo on jordan almonds.

Congrats!!

Maybe you can use the same reason as Animal Kingdom Lodge... The fish or ducks or loch ness monsters in the lake by Sea Breeze Point may choke on any tulle (mesh) that may blow away.

:rotfl: Loch ness monsters!! :lmao: :rotfl2: :rotfl:

I totally understand the concept of keeping the peace, but being that my FMIL sounds like your FMIL's twin, I vote for putting your foot down.

I've allowed a lot of small things in the name of trying to limit drama and being the bigger person, but now there is a rumor that my FMIL may "surprise" my DF and I with a priest ready for a blessing ceremony at our at home reception the week before our wedding. I don't think it's possible for a number of reasons, including the fact that I am NOT catholic, so I'm not going to stress about it. But my point is that I think that there should be a very clear consistent effort to help your FMIL, and mine, understand that they are NOT in control of their sons weddings, marriages, lives, future children, etc. or they will end up doing a lot worse.

:flower3: :hug:

yes i have had them i am italian so as you know they make an apperance at many event. i am not saying they are the best but it is a bag of almonds once the guest has them is they throw them out so be it but some may like it
i dont want to argue i am just saying some things are not worth a fuss. but again it is her wedding if it is that big of a deal then tell the mom no.

Like Nikki (hope1826) said, it's not just Jordan Almonds (even though I hate them.) It's a control issue. Should I also not make a fuss when she's overfeeding her grandchildren (like she did with her own children) because that's what grandparents do (her reasoning.) My fiance has struggled with his weight and type 2 diabetes and even still today we'll go over her house and she'll insist food upon us. I appreciate that she's Italian. I appreciate that she has some need to give to show love. It's just that she gives all the wrong things. And I think she needs to respect boundries.

you have it IN WRITING that they are not allowed at dakl. done. i still stand with my original idea. especially since they'll now be a part of the ceremony.

do you know that they make silver jordan almonds? gross...they look like you're eating metal...


It's in writing. I've actually put Chuck on this one. I asked him to please talk to his sister or mother and let them no that it's not allowed at AKL. Hopefully, he'll be able to handle the situation with out stirring up more drama.

I would just like to reiterate something I posted awhile back. FMIL is not the most wretched evil person ever. She's very generous and she's very kind. She's been very, very good to me. However, that's been mixed with some not so great times and not so great moments. That being said, there are huge generational and cultural gaps. FMIL just turned 70, my mom is 50. I'm used to a different way of relating and doing things. And she's very old school. Therefore, we butt heads a lot. We disagree on a lot of things. That doesn't make her bad. I just have to stand firm on the things I want and I believe. The only time it gets out of control is when she's too insistant or plays the underdog/martyr card. She get's overly emotional and upset when you tell her she can't do certain things. Should I feel guilted into comprimising what I want in these important/ once-in-a-lifetime situations? The stress factor comes in when I know resisting will cause more drama because of she's "hurt." Her daughter gives in a lot to what her mom wants. That's fine. But my mom doesn't try to push her desires on me. I'm not use to having to do things to keep a parent happy? Does that seem fair? Make sense?

[MistressOfAllEvil]

So I was reading Whoopdedoo's thread asking for suggestions on what to do about her numbers for her DP and she made metion of possible allowing a charity to fill up the space. This reminded me that I had looked into Make A Wish before. That settled it for me. I've been struggling for quite awhile weather to even do a favor at the ceremony or hand them out at the welcome dinner in addition to the welcome bags. I was thinking of doing personalized mickey head ornaments. BUT, I think this is way better. I'm going to make a donation and get the little cards they provide and have them put out along with my place cards!!! I'm so excited. :dance3: This is a little bit of happyness (just watched the pursuit of happyness this past weekend, lol) for me!!! I feel an enormous weight lifted!! Wooo Hooo!!

[DisneyLaura]

I personally HATE HATE HATE Jordan Almonds.

I know I'm late on this discussion but I love the jordan almonds. Yes I'm Italian so we had those too but I had candles with a sticker on it with our names and date, but as this not an issue now yeah for you.

Laura :flower3:

[hope1826]

Wendy
So I was reading Whoopdedoo's thread asking for suggestions on what to do about her numbers for her DP and she made metion of possible allowing a charity to fill up the space. This reminded me that I had looked into Make A Wish before. That settled it for me. I've been struggling for quite awhile weather to even do a favor at the ceremony or hand them out at the welcome dinner in addition to the welcome bags. I was thinking of doing personalized mickey head ornaments. BUT, I think this is way better. I'm going to make a donation and get the little cards they provide and have them put out along with my place cards!!! I'm so excited. :dance3: This is a little bit of happyness (just watched the pursuit of happyness this past weekend, lol) for me!!! I feel an enormous weight lifted!! Wooo Hooo!!

That's such a great idea!! And congrats on finally finding something that is your style!

I would just like to reiterate something I posted awhile back. FMIL is not the most wretched evil person ever. She's very generous and she's very kind. She's been very, very good to me. However, that's been mixed with some not so great times and not so great moments. That being said, there are huge generational and cultural gaps. FMIL just turned 70, my mom is 50. I'm used to a different way of relating and doing things. And she's very old school. Therefore, we butt heads a lot. We disagree on a lot of things. That doesn't make her bad. I just have to stand firm on the things I want and I believe. The only time it gets out of control is when she's too insistant or plays the underdog/martyr card. She get's overly emotional and upset when you tell her she can't do certain things. Should I feel guilted into comprimising what I want in these important/ once-in-a-lifetime situations? The stress factor comes in when I know resisting will cause more drama because of she's "hurt." Her daughter gives in a lot to what her mom wants. That's fine. But my mom doesn't try to push her desires on me. I'm not use to having to do things to keep a parent happy? Does that seem fair? Make sense?


That makes complete sense. And is definitely fair. But then again, I may understand because I have a very similar situation. My FMIL is 64, my mom is 52. My FMIL has the best intentions and is also a very loving caring mother. I think part of why I love her son so much is because she is a wonderful mother. But at the same time, she is very old school Roman Catholic Polish.
he is her only son and she is having an EXTREMELY hard time accepting that her almost 30 year old son is an adult and has a right to make his own life choices.

So I completely understand!! :hug:

Nikki

[PrincessBride010103]

im italian and i say......F the jordan almonds....they are gross
and maybe my family is weird but i dont think we serve them at our events
noone has said anything about jordan almonds to me for my wedding
whats the point of them anyway?

[hope1826]

It's an Italian, Greek and Middle Eastern (pre-christian aka originally pagan) wedding tradition and each of the five almonds is supposed to imbue the marriage with one of each of the following.. health, wealth, longevity, fertility and happiness. Since five, an odd number, is not divisible, it is supposed to make the marriage indivisible. In some traditions three are used just to enhance fertility.

I'm not Italian, Greek or Middle Eastern and I actually love them and their pre-christian origins and the real reason the tradition exists. But under the same circumstances, I would veto them too.

[figmentfan814]

I just caught up on the jordan almond drama and have to admit it was pretty funny :lmao: reading through all the commentary. I'm glad it all worked out.

[Lisella]

So I was reading Whoopdedoo's thread asking for suggestions on what to do about her numbers for her DP and she made metion of possible allowing a charity to fill up the space. This reminded me that I had looked into Make A Wish before. That settled it for me. I've been struggling for quite awhile weather to even do a favor at the ceremony or hand them out at the welcome dinner in addition to the welcome bags. I was thinking of doing personalized mickey head ornaments. BUT, I think this is way better. I'm going to make a donation and get the little cards they provide and have them put out along with my place cards!!! I'm so excited. :dance3: This is a little bit of happyness (just watched the pursuit of happyness this past weekend, lol) for me!!! I feel an enormous weight lifted!! Wooo Hooo!!

Oh - I love it! This is exactly what I plan on doing. Excellent.

[FIREFLY01]

I LOVE THE IDEA FOR MAKE A WISH :thumbsup2
YOU KNOW YOU COULD ALWAYS TELL YOUR FMIL SINCE THERE ARE NO ALMONDS :rolleyes1 THE MONEY THEY WOULD HAVE SPENT WOULD MAKE A GREAT DONATION TO MAKE A WISH IN YOU AND YOUR FIANCE NAME! :cool1:
MAYBE THEN SHE WILL STILL FELL LIKE SHE IS CONTRIBUTING TO YOUR WEDDING JUST IN A DIFFERENT WAY!!! ITS ALL ABOUT CREATIVE TALKING AND WRITING!!!! I LUCK OUT MY FMIL IS WONDERFUL, MY OWN MOTHER ON THE OTHER HAND:headache: , BEST OF LUCK IN WHATEVER YOU DO ITS GONNA BE A GREAT CEREMONY I WISH I WAS STILL GONNA BE AROUND AFTER MY WEDDING TO PEEK IN ON YOURS

[Maddiesmum03]

Congrats!!



Maybe you can use the same reason as Animal Kingdom Lodge... The fish or ducks or loch ness monsters in the lake by Sea Breeze Point may choke on any tulle (mesh) that may blow away.

I totally understand the concept of keeping the peace, but being that my FMIL sounds like your FMIL's twin, I vote for putting your foot down.

I've allowed a lot of small things in the name of trying to limit drama and being the bigger person, but now there is a rumor that my FMIL may "surprise" my DF and I with a priest ready for a blessing ceremony at our at home reception the week before our wedding. I don't think it's possible for a number of reasons, including the fact that I am NOT catholic, so I'm not going to stress about it. But my point is that I think that there should be a very clear consistent effort to help your FMIL, and mine, understand that they are NOT in control of their sons weddings, marriages, lives, future children, etc. or they will end up doing a lot worse.

:flower3: :hug:
are there really monsters in the water behind sea breeze point? cool, wouldnt that make a great background to our photos?:goodvibes

[MistressOfAllEvil]

I would just like to announce that I met my weight loss goal!! I wanted to lose 20lbs total and today I weighed in at 20.5lbs lighter than when I started!!!! :woohoo: :cool1: :yay: :dance3: :cheer2: :cool1: :banana: :banana: :banana:

[tamijoy514]

I would just like to announce that I met my weight loss goal!! I wanted to lose 20lbs total and today I weighed in at 20.5lbs lighter than when I started!!!! :woohoo: :cool1: :yay: :dance3: :cheer2: :cool1: :banana: :banana: :banana:

HOOOOORAY!!!! :cheer2:

[caryndisneydiva]

yaaay for you! congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Desnik]

I would just like to announce that I met my weight loss goal!! I wanted to lose 20lbs total and today I weighed in at 20.5lbs lighter than when I started!!!! :woohoo: :cool1: :yay: :dance3: :cheer2: :cool1: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Congrats!! That is great!:cool1:

[meryll83]

You didn't just meet your target you bashed right past it!

Wooooooooooohoooooooooooooooo! :banana:

[lurkyloo]

Wowee wow wow! Way to go! :thumbsup2

[Tabetha]

Congratulations, that's AMAZING!

[keenercam]

Congratulations, Wendy!! That is awesome!! :cheer2: :woohoo:

[BayouPrincess]

Way to go Wendy! Nice job on the weight loss!:cheer2:

[PrincessBride010103]

It's an Italian, Greek and Middle Eastern (pre-christian aka originally pagan) wedding tradition and each of the five almonds is supposed to imbue the marriage with one of each of the following.. health, wealth, longevity, fertility and happiness. Since five, an odd number, is not divisible, it is supposed to make the marriage indivisible. In some traditions three are used just to enhance fertility.

I'm not Italian, Greek or Middle Eastern and I actually love them and their pre-christian origins and the real reason the tradition exists. But under the same circumstances, I would veto them too.

i dont need to be any more fertile so no jordan almonds for me!!!! :laughing:

and wendy...congratulations!!!
:jumping1:

[helloirishkitty]

I would just like to announce that I met my weight loss goal!! I wanted to lose 20lbs total and today I weighed in at 20.5lbs lighter than when I started!!!! :woohoo: :cool1: :yay: :dance3: :cheer2: :cool1: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Congratulations!!



That's awesome!! :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

[thatdisneygirl]

Congratulations!!! That's fantastic (and inspirational)!

[Lizby]

Woohoo! :cheer2: You should be so proud! I can't wait to see your wedding pics...you will be so beautiful :)

[caryndisneydiva]

wendy, i hope i get to see you next week, hopefully i can convince mark that staying in fl a few extra days is a good thing!!! if not though...HAPPY WEDDING! i can't wait to read your tr and see all of your pics! i'm so excited for the 4 of us!!! our tr's will keep us out of the post wedding slump! don't forget to keep your :cool2: on and don't stress!!!!!!

[Lisella]

Congrats on meeting your goal! :banana:

[figmentfan814]

Congratulations on meeting your goal, that must be a great feeling :mickeyjum

[MistressOfAllEvil]

HOOOOORAY!!!! :cheer2:

yaaay for you! congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats!! That is great!:cool1:

You didn't just meet your target you bashed right past it!

Wooooooooooohoooooooooooooooo! :banana:

Wowee wow wow! Way to go! :thumbsup2

Congratulations, that's AMAZING!

Congratulations, Wendy!! That is awesome!! :cheer2: :woohoo:

Way to go Wendy! Nice job on the weight loss!:cheer2:

i dont need to be any more fertile so no jordan almonds for me!!!! :laughing:

and wendy...congratulations!!!
:jumping1:

Congratulations!!



That's awesome!! :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

Congratulations!!! That's fantastic (and inspirational)!

Woohoo! :cheer2: You should be so proud! I can't wait to see your wedding pics...you will be so beautiful :)

Congrats on meeting your goal! :banana:

Congratulations on meeting your goal, that must be a great feeling :mickeyjum

Thank You Everyone!!

I've been MIA b/c I've been busy and sick. :sick: I've got updates coming up shortly here... promise!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

wendy, i hope i get to see you next week, hopefully i can convince mark that staying in fl a few extra days is a good thing!!! if not though...HAPPY WEDDING! i can't wait to read your tr and see all of your pics! i'm so excited for the 4 of us!!! our tr's will keep us out of the post wedding slump! don't forget to keep your :cool2: on and don't stress!!!!!!

Oh Caryn... you're gone. You won't see this until you're back... I'm going to miss you for the last week and a half here before I leave. All I can say is that I HOPE HOPE HOPE that you can get Mark to stay in FL for a few extra days. And I hope you know that you're more than welcome to come lurk outside my wedding!! I'm sure you do!

I hope that Carrie and Patrick are come along on the water and blow the horn!!! Eeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!

[MistressOfAllEvil]

Where are we at with everything???

Hmmmm... let's see. Thursday evening I got home from school and both Chuck and Christie (FSIL/MOH) were there. I started talking to her about wedding stuff and then asked if Chuck told her about the whole jordan almonds situation. To which he looked up with a "caught" look on his face. He of course had not done the one thing I asked him to. So, with my stomach churning, I explained why it was a bad idea and what Kathleen said, etc... So, Christie says... well, what if we just put them in tins instead. I told her I didn't know and I would have to ask Kathleen. So, I emailed Kathleen Friday to have her call me and got an auto reply stating she would be out until today. So hopefull her and I will be able to pow-wow on the phone to craft the perfect email response that I can use to discourage the stupid Jordan Almonds.

On Thrusday I also made appointments for Christie and I at the MAC counter for Sunday. Well it costs $50 for a half hour session, but the $50 goes towards your purchase. The more I thought about it though, the more I realized I was going to end up spending way more than $50 to get everything I would need to do my own make-up for the wedding. I started to panic, because this is what you do when you're two weeks away from leaving and you feel like everything you've decided to do sucks and nothing is confirmed or finished or planned! So I sent a couple of emails out and I was able to book Beaute Speciale for make-up only from 10:30am-12:30pm. It's cheaper for me to pay to have our (mine, christie's and my other bm Jenna) make-up done. So, I am. I hope that it turns out okay. I did learn however that they have 20 artists, not just Ana. So did everyone who use Beaute Speciale have Ana?? Or did you request her specifically? Or did you end up having someone else? And if so, how were they??? tia.

ALSO on Thrusday, I had Christie call the Lenox outlet at Birch Run to see if they had any of the mickey and minnie ear ornaments and sure enough they did. So, I had her have them put 20 of each on hold :eek: for us to go pick up on Saturday. Turns out they weren't supposed to hold them, but they did because they said they would. Not that we were in danger of not getting them. They had nearly 40 of each in the store anyhow and as far as I know I'm currently the only crazed disney bride in MI. So saturday we drove up there and I ended up buying enough mickeys for the guys, minnies for the girls, one extra of each. I also bought the groom and bride ear ornaments for Chuck and I. And! I found a very cute silver jewelry box to give to my niece as her flower girl gift. Now I need to just find a pair of little girl pearl earings for her, which should be super easy. It's just having the time to do it! I also bought, at the lenox outlet (we're still there, lol) picture frames for both Chuck's parents and mine. They're completely different b/c our parents are completely different. They're both 8x10 and I think they're both beautiful. So, now I'm thinking that I need to type something sweet up to put in the frames until we ended up getting the wedding picutres to put in them.

Chuck also ordered his attendant gift for Anthony. It's a USB storage drive that looks like a ducati tail. This is huge b/c Chuck and Anthonly are in a bike club together and loooooove riding and Anthony has a Ducati. So, it's perfect. I decided that I'm getting Jenna a gift certificate to the spa at Coronado Springs for a massage the day after the wedding (I know she wants this.) and after a lot of struggling I finally decided to blow the extra cash and get Cirque tickets for Christie and I as her gift.

So, Friday night my sister dropped my niece off and I took her to dinner and then to the book store to use her gift card she got for Christimas from my parents. Her's was for $25 and mine was for $40 from my parents for xmas as well. Somehow she left with 7 (chapter!) books and I only got 2. :laughing: She stayed the night and then Saturday morning we met my girlfriend Wendy and her two daughters and her Mother at the theater and we all finally saw Enchanted. It was very, very, very, very cute. And I have to say, I had quite an appreciation for Giselle since I was in entertainment and Disney and so I like to pretend that I'm more aware of certain things. She was spot on taking the animated character to real life. The only thing I could have done with out was the rats and roaches... ewwwwwwwwww!!!!

After the movie, my sister picked my niece up and that's when Christie and I hightailed it to the gym, tanning salon, dinner and then up to Birch Run for the Lenox run (see above, lol.)

On Sunday, Chuck, Christie and I ended up at the mall. I bought the most adorable dress for our welcome dinner at Ohana, but not without a complete bridal breakdown. Christie was poo-pooing my choices and I had a coniption fit. She's trying to get decked out like she's going to the club on new year's eve, Christie style for our 5pm-in-Florida, Ohana, poly-theamed dinner. I finally freaked out and said that I was sick and frustrated and that it was annoying to have to try to get her family to dress down and my family to dress up enough for everyone to A. meet in the middle and 2. fufill my vision for what the dinner should look like. She said that it was just a miscommunication and that she didn't realize. That's a bunch of malarky b/c she showed me a dress she had purchased earlier in the week and I told her it was too dressy. I reiterated that it was 5pm in Florida at Ohana and that she should be dress casual. She claims that casual makes her think jeans and a t-shirt!! ***... I told her that the problem was that her and I have different definitions for words like dressy and casual and that the other problem is that she doesn't recognize that there's anything in between. I'm going to take a picture of the dress I bought and post it so you guys can see how absolutely cute and perfect it is. And if everyone else aside from Chuck and I looks dumb, I DON'T CARE. My mom actually called me on Sunday as we were parking to go into the mall all panicked about what she was going to wear for the wedding. First of all, shame on her for waiting so long. Second of all she's worried that the outfit she found is going to be too dressy?!?! She described it. It doesn't sound too dressy. I told her so. Really, too dressy for your oldest daughters wedding??? Damn, what does she want to wear?? Track pants?? This is from the mother who asked me point blank if she could wear jeans to the shower with a sweater. I told her no. She never even heard or retained my answer and showed up in jeans. Along with my sister in jeans. ***. I told them NO JEANS for the welcome dinner. Put on a cute pair of khaki capris or a skirt or something. jeeze. And she's apprently concerened that the outfit my sister is wearing to the wedding makes her look fat. Makes her look fat??? She is fat? Sorry, I'm not being rude about it. I can say overweight if that makes people feel better. But it's a fact, not a name calling session. So, if her outfit accentuates her heavieness, so be it. What am I supposed to do? Worry about how big my sisters butt looks on my wedding day????? Okay, mini-rant over. Also on Sunday, Chuck dropped over $300 on an outfit for the welcome dinner. LOLOL. That would be over 3x what my dress cost. But it was all from Tommy Bahama. And I guess I should mention that we will also be wearing these clothes for our honeymoon portait session at MK that day too.. and I explained to Captain Undershirt that it would also make a nice outfit for while we're on the cruise. He's cool with it. He just doesn't understand paying extra for nice, quality clothes. So finally after I harangued anyone with-in a 15 foot listening radius about the dress code for the welcome dinner, Chrisite ended up buying yet another dress. Bright Yellow. It's cute. I'm just not sure she understands that it's my wedding and that she should NOT be showing me up. Sunday night she made me choose which ankle bracelet she should wear for the wedding. When I told her none, she said that wasn't possible. So she's going to have on more jewelry than a freakin' gypsy!!!! And for sure more than me. When I first told her about us getting our make-up done, I told her I was getting lashes put on. She said she didn't want any (good!) and then changed her mind and told me yesterday that she does. Tough. She's not getting them. I told her sunday night that I get to dictate what her hair and make-up look like. The closer we get the more I'm being forceful about this stuff. She should not look more done up than me on my wedding day. I told her this point blank. She said, don't worry, everyone will know you're the bride. :cool2: :cool2:


So, what's my plan?? Work today. I'm going to try to leave early so that I can find a gold pen to use on the ornaments to have my friend's friend personalize them for me for all our guests. Then it's off to the gym and tanning salon. I hope to get to school by 5pm to work in the computer lab. I'm trying to "get ahead" in both of my classes and take the first test in both classes before I leave. It's probably one of the least stressful things I need to do b/c it's just working through the tutorials and flipping though the lab manual and then completing the assingments. It's very methodical and doesn't require too much brain power from me! :rotfl: Kinda funny that school is the least mentally challanging thing on my to-do list.

Things I still need to do:
-Adjust reservations (yet again) after the whole best man fiasco of earlier this month.
-find a purse to use on my wedding day
-confirm with Randy
-confirm with Ron
-pre-pay Beaute Special (by wed the 30th)
-talk to Kathleen re: jordan almonds, placing ornaments out as place cards, dropping number from 20 to 17 for the recption dinner, possible shipping stuff to her for the wedding?!?
-get ahead in both classes for school
-buy gold pen and coordinate personalization of ornaments
-creat list of things to buy for welcome bags to send with MOH (who's leaving two days before us) to buy when she gets to FL.
-work out two days on/one day off
-tan every other day
-figure out how to pack veil
-clean house and get all laundry done
-pack (and try not to forget anything)
-post on Dis about daily happenings and back track to cover shower and bachlorette party

I'm sure there's more, this is just off the cuff. We leave in 9 days. I'm kinda freaked out!:scared: