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momof3girls6712
02-20-2008, 01:25 PM
I have been meaning to ask this. We were at Disney 1/27 to 1/31. Each day different christian messages were written in the sky. Does anyone know why or who done this?

(hopefully these pictures work - my first time posting pics)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2154/2266407195_1139a2178a.jpg?v=0

Robo
02-20-2008, 01:27 PM
I have been meaning to ask this. We were at Disney 1/27 to 1/31. Each day different christian messages were written in the sky. Does anyone know why or who done this?

Its done at a distance, not directly over WDW property.

A local church does it as a form of "outreach."

momof3girls6712
02-20-2008, 01:31 PM
Thanks Robo - It seemed so odd to us while we were there. "a form of outreach" lol they should just use the money to buy food for the hungry or something useful

Robo
02-20-2008, 01:35 PM
Thanks Robo - It seemed so odd to us while we were there. "a form of outreach" lol they should just use the money to buy food for the hungry or something useful

Its probably less than productive to discuss individual religious convictions or beliefs.

Nobody can "win" in that debate.

ntsammy5
02-20-2008, 01:52 PM
It's actually an individual doing this. He won't divulge any details. Here's an article from the Sentinel.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/features_orlando/2007/04/the_message_fro.html

officer tigger
02-20-2008, 01:52 PM
We were at WDW from Dec. 1 through the 9th and saw the writing in the sky also. Everyday was a different message.

MickeyNicki
02-20-2008, 01:57 PM
There is a guy that does in Naples, FL too....mostly just on the weekend

ssawka
02-20-2008, 01:58 PM
When we here there, he did a smiley face, that we happened to see when we were on the Kilimanjaro safari at AK. I made a comment to my wife that the whole safari was actually inside a building and that it was just painted on the ceiling. I must have not whispered enough, because passangers near us got a chuckle out of it. :)

disnut8
02-20-2008, 02:15 PM
We saw it last weekend. But unless we are totally brainless, I don't think I've ever seen thing during a high peak weekend (which is when we mostly go). If he does do it, it certainly doesn't get the attention in which he intends.

Persnally - the messages (whether I believe them or not) are too long. If the guy reads these boards, I'd suggeste he write something that doesn't have the beginning evaporate before the end is done. Short and sweet is better.

Tuffcookie
02-20-2008, 02:16 PM
You know, every time someone brings the skywriter up, I have to think...Why is it that this bothers some people? Have we gotten to the point in this country where we can hear anything on television, the movies, or in public yet cry that we're "offended" when someone mentions the word God or Jesus? Does not offend me in the least. More power to him!:)

TC:cool1:

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 02:24 PM
We saw them last year over Spring Break - I thought it was a pleasant little "treat" to look up and see that someone took the time to send that little message!

Robo
02-20-2008, 02:24 PM
You know, every time someone brings the skywriter up, I have to think...Why is it that this bothers some people? Have we gotten to the point in this country where we can hear anything on television, the movies, or in public yet cry that we're "offended" when someone mentions the word God or Jesus? Does not offend me in the least. More power to him!:)

TC:cool1:

I don't know exactly where I read this but, its probably less than productive to discuss individual religious convictions or beliefs.

Nobody can "win" in that debate.

;)

Tiffany_MommyOf3
02-20-2008, 02:27 PM
DH used to work Mon thru Sat so we would go to Disney every Sunday.. and every Sunday morning, we saw the messages LOL.. I think its someone trying to tell us that we should be in church and not at Disney? lol

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 02:30 PM
DH used to work Mon thru Sat so we would go to Disney every Sunday.. and every Sunday morning, we saw the messages LOL.. I think its someone trying to tell us that we should be in church and not at Disney? lol

LOL...Hey - I fully believe that God gave Walt the vision...therefore it is perfectly ok to be in Disney on Sunday! LOL

minmate
02-20-2008, 02:48 PM
I don't know exactly where I read this but, its probably less than productive to discuss individual religious convictions or beliefs.

Nobody can "win" in that debate.

;)

LOL... :lmao:

VMK_Mouse
02-20-2008, 02:50 PM
I don't know exactly where I read this but, its probably less than productive to discuss individual religious convictions or beliefs.

Nobody can "win" in that debate.

;)

:rolleyes:

VMK_Mouse
02-20-2008, 02:51 PM
I think what he is doing is cool. Keep it up skywriter!!!

Tuffcookie
02-20-2008, 02:59 PM
VMK Mouse wrote: I think what he is doing is cool. Keep it up skywriter!!!

:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

TC:cool1:

*NikkiBell*
02-20-2008, 03:23 PM
Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner. He wants people to read it. I personally find it annoying and wish something could be done to stop him. I'm sure it would never be allowed if it was an anti-Bush or of a non-Christian religion. Talk about double standard.

disneycruise05
02-20-2008, 03:24 PM
Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner. He wants people to read it. I personally find it annoying and wish something could be done to stop him. I'm sure it would never be allowed if it was an anti-Bush or of a non-Christian religion. Talk about double standard.

:thumbsup2

ITA!

sassyat30
02-20-2008, 03:29 PM
I don't know exactly where I read this but, its probably less than productive to discuss individual religious convictions or beliefs.

Nobody can "win" in that debate.

;)

:lmao:

missj1975
02-20-2008, 03:33 PM
Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner. He wants people to read it. I personally find it annoying and wish something could be done to stop him. I'm sure it would never be allowed if it was an anti-Bush or of a non-Christian religion. Talk about double standard.

Last I heard there is still a thing called "Free Speech" in the U.S.A. He isn't forcing anything down your throat. He isn't forcing you to read the message. It is in the public just like any other billboard, advertisment, etc. A little sky writing isn't violating any of your rights.

Mr. & Mrs. Smith
02-20-2008, 03:34 PM
Thanks Robo - It seemed so odd to us while we were there. "a form of outreach" lol they should just use the money to buy food for the hungry or something useful

Well, I guess whatever makes him feel like he's doing something important. It wouldn't be my first cause of action but . . .

Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner. He wants people to read it. I personally find it annoying and wish something could be done to stop him. I'm sure it would never be allowed if it was an anti-Bush or of a non-Christian religion. Talk about double standard.

Well then don't look up I suppose. I personally don't see it as being very productive or helpful to his cause but I'm certainly not offended by it. What do you mean it shouldn't be allowed? It's freedom of speech.

Brian_WDW74
02-20-2008, 03:35 PM
And so it begins...

I predict this is yet another thread that will soon be locked by the moderators. :sad2:

ChefBilly
02-20-2008, 03:37 PM
Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner. He wants people to read it. I personally find it annoying and wish something could be done to stop him. I'm sure it would never be allowed if it was an anti-Bush or of a non-Christian religion. Talk about double standard.

Don't look up.
Easily offended much?

Tuffcookie
02-20-2008, 03:46 PM
NikkiNelle wrote: Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner.

Well, I want to object to all the junk that I have forced on me too! Let's start with the Viagra commercials, birth control ads, commercials for venereal disease medications, not to mention the language and sex that is now considered "acceptable" on prime time TV. I find that much more offensive!

TC:cool1:

Robo
02-20-2008, 03:46 PM
And so it begins...

I predict this is yet another thread that will soon be locked by the moderators. :sad2:

I posted my "message of peace" TWICE, but the debate and outrage races on...

Nobody "wins."

;)

disneycruise05
02-20-2008, 03:49 PM
I have to agree with Nikki. I'm at Disney, I don't want to have to deal with somebody talking about religion. I guess I'm just prone to not like anything with people talking about religion after having my best friend send missionaries to my house to "save my soul" or having one of my RAs in college ask how I can live with myself for not believing in Jesus. I guess if I'm getting it in college I might as well get it at Disney. So much for the magic...

SGMCO
02-20-2008, 03:49 PM
Last trip he ran out of smoke and wrote
"Jesus cares fo"
Everyone around us were laughing.
I think it is a tacky way of spreading ones belief.
What would Jesus Think?

mickeyluv'r
02-20-2008, 04:14 PM
NikkiNelle wrote: Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner.

Well, I want to object to all the junk that I have forced on me too! Let's start with the Viagra commercials, birth control ads, commercials for venereal disease medications, not to mention the language and sex that is now considered "acceptable" on prime time TV. I find that much more offensive!

TC:cool1:

Can I agree with both of you? Just because we HAVE free speech does not mean we SHOULD abuse it. I think our society has forgotten something about tact and taste in all the noise.

And I'll add, it's not just the kinds of ads you list - it's all ads. Everywhere I go I'm bombarded with ads now! I can't even pump my gas or get my luggage at the airport in peace! It's just NOISE NOISE NOISE! After a while you just tune it out.

If some guy wants to skyright his religion, sure, he CAN - but it's not tasteful. I don't get offended, but it isn't exactly making me want to emulate his value system either....;) I just prefer my religion in a more tasteful manner.

VMK_Mouse
02-20-2008, 04:18 PM
NikkiNelle wrote: Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner.

Well, I want to object to all the junk that I have forced on me too! Let's start with the Viagra commercials, birth control ads, commercials for venereal disease medications, not to mention the language and sex that is now considered "acceptable" on prime time TV. I find that much more offensive!

TC:cool1:


:thumbsup2

lovetomow
02-20-2008, 04:20 PM
Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner. He wants people to read it. I personally find it annoying and wish something could be done to stop him. I'm sure it would never be allowed if it was an anti-Bush or of a non-Christian religion. Talk about double standard.

Free speech is a wonderful thing isn't it!!

tnmomof4
02-20-2008, 04:29 PM
What is so bad about reading Jesus Loves You? Why do people see the word Jesus and automatically think religion. I have heard that word used as a bad word (at Disney too)and never thought wow they sure have religion.

Last year at Disney we saw these messages in the sky and I never was offended or had to shield my kids eyes from them. Yet many times I do have to tell my kids not to look at certain TV ads and billboards.

Like someone else said we do have Free Speech. We don't always like what we hear or agree.

darby01_2007
02-20-2008, 04:40 PM
I see these every weekend!! I hink that they're pretty neat

labattblue
02-20-2008, 04:56 PM
1. Read Robo's post in this thread(#12)
2. Read it a 2nd time
3. Move on to another thread

;)

labattblue
02-20-2008, 05:05 PM
Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner. He wants people to read it. I personally find it annoying and wish something could be done to stop him. I'm sure it would never be allowed if it was an anti-Bush or of a non-Christian religion. Talk about double standard.

YEAH, RIGHT ON...and also tell him not to write "Have a nice day" when I'm at WDW with brazilian tour groups, angry moms with strollers, line cutters, heelie brats,etc...

I would be offended that he is trying to cheer me up when I'm in the process of building up some serious anger!:lmao: :lmao:

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:06 PM
I have been meaning to ask this. We were at Disney 1/27 to 1/31. Each day different christian messages were written in the sky. Does anyone know why or who done this?

(hopefully these pictures work - my first time posting pics)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2154/2266407195_1139a2178a.jpg?v=0


No - but theyve been doing it for several years now, and (I might be in the minority) but it annoys the heck out of me.

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:07 PM
It's actually an individual doing this. He won't divulge any details. Here's an article from the Sentinel.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/features_orlando/2007/04/the_message_fro.html


I wish I had the money to waste doing this every single freaking day. September, January - we see him all the time.

Again, IMO - he needs a life.

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 05:10 PM
Ok...I have to say that people let the stupidest things annoy them these days. I mean, give me a break! No one is forcing you to make a decision to follow any particular religion. The message he is passing on is a simple one - that just happens to be true. Jesus loves you. Period. If you don't like it, don't read it. That is exactly what some of us have to do with all the obscenity out there today. It's called FREE SPEECH and whether some of you like it or not - that goes for ALL speech...even Christians can speak freely! *gasp*

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:14 PM
Why is it that this bothers some people? Have we gotten to the point in this country where we can hear anything on television, the movies, or in public yet cry that we're "offended" when someone mentions the word God or Jesus? TC:cool1:

Not offfended - seriously. Annoyed. Much, much annoyed. He ruins my pictures - daily. I personally dont want happy faces, or Jesus loves you, in my pictures. Annoyed. Big time.

Quite frankly, I think what he is doing is foolish and absurd. When I am on vacation at The World, I don't want religious doctrine or even remote traces of it shoved down my throat. And, no one can deny the fact that he is forcing it on people as he is doing it in a purposefully public manner. He wants people to read it. I personally find it annoying and wish something could be done to stop him. I'm sure it would never be allowed if it was an anti-Bush or of a non-Christian religion. Talk about double standard.

I agree. Is LONG LIVE SATAN, cool too? SELL YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL, alright? How about PARTY ON, WAYNE & GARTH? Freedom of speech my butt...

Don't look up.
Easily offended much?

Not offended. Truly annoyed. My scenic pictures have ridiculous saying's in sky - and Im tired of Photoshopping them out.

Free speech is a wonderful thing isn't it!!

I guess - when you agree with it, it is. Is COME SEE THE STRIPPERS AT THE PUSSYCAT CLUB TONIGHT AT 8PM, okay with you? Would that be okay if you were wandering EPCOT and saw that? I doubt it.

I remember before Disney was a no-fly zone and the Church Street Station planes with banners flew over head. Those annoyed me too.

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:17 PM
Ok...I have to say that people let the stupidest things annoy them these days. I mean, give me a break! No one is forcing you to make a decision to follow any particular religion. The message he is passing on is a simple one - that just happens to be true. Jesus loves you. Period. If you don't like it, don't read it. That is exactly what some of us have to do with all the obscenity out there today. It's called FREE SPEECH and whether some of you like it or not - that goes for ALL speech...even Christians can speak freely! *gasp*

:rolleyes: Its called 'Ruining My Pictures!!!"


If Jesus loves me so much, why is he letting My Skywriter sabotage my gorgeous shots with his ridiculous writings.

And quite frankly - I know who loves me - I dont need Mr Skywriter to remind me, when Im trying to take a picture!

Im quite certain Jesus is aware of how much I adore Disney and is actually annoyed at Mr Skywriter as well, for upsetting me. :rolleyes1

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 05:17 PM
I guess - when you agree with it, it is. Is COME SEE THE STRIPPERS AT THE PUSSYCAT CLUB TONIGHT AT 8PM, okay with you? Would that be okay if you were wandering EPCOT and saw that? I doubt it.

Actually, I see these types of signs constantly at the beach. I don't particularly want to see those planes flying by while I am trying to relax on the beach - but hey, it is all part of free speech. Why get "annoyed" by something you cannot change?

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 05:18 PM
:rolleyes: Its called 'Ruining My Pictures!!!"


If Jesus loves me so much, why is he letting My Skywriter sabotage my gorgeous shots with his ridiculous writings.

And quite frankly - I know who loves me - I dont need Mr Skywriter to remind me, when Im trying to take a picture!

Im quite certain Jesus is aware of how much I adore Disney and is actually annoyed at Mr Skywriter as well, for upsetting me. :rolleyes1

I am sorry, but this is truly ridiculous. Do you realize how large the sky is? If the message is in your picture at one angle...for goodness sake change the angle of the picture and *poof* it's gone. Not too hard...lighten up!;)

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:19 PM
Actually, I see these types of signs constantly at the beach. I don't particularly want to see those planes flying by while I am trying to relax on the beach - but hey, it is all part of free speech. Why get "annoyed" by something you cannot change?



Disney imposed a no-fly zone because of (many reasons, including) the Church Street Station banners - yet Mr Skywriter is intentionally trying to get around that.

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 05:21 PM
I think people just look for things to fuss about...:rolleyes:

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:22 PM
I am sorry, but this is truly ridiculous. Do you realize how large the sky is? If the message is in your picture at one angle...for goodness sake change the angle of the picture and *poof* it's gone. Not too hard...lighten up!;)

Youre a Christian. Youre okay with it.

Maybe me - and half the other people at Disney World arent. They shouldnt have to worry about it in a private, non-religious place, they pay money to be at.

I still find it annoying. And makes me :rolleyes: everytime I see it.

Jesus Love Me :) - how original.

Again - is "SELL YOUR SOUL TO SATAN!" cool with you?

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:23 PM
I think people just look for things to fuss about...:rolleyes:


It got brought up - and I replied.

Annoying, IMO.

praline3001
02-20-2008, 05:26 PM
I don't know exactly where I read this but, its probably less than productive to discuss individual religious convictions or beliefs.

Nobody can "win" in that debate.

;)

Poor robo... its like he is able to read the future... kind of creepy

Did you read the skywriter clouds to be able to predict this debate?
Or was it tea leaves?:lmao:

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:27 PM
Look! An *S* form the notortious MR Skywriter....

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h207/catcathryn/Charley/100_1694.jpg

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 05:28 PM
I wasn't pointing you out personally - if I were, I would have quoted you. I mean 'people' in general. People fuss and argue about the stupidest things! Of course I wouldn't want to see a sign that says "SELL YOUR SOUL TO SATAN" - but I wouldn't freak out because I saw it because I know that it is nonsense. That is my point. You (CathrynRose) don't like the sign - that is ok...but it doesn't mean that person cannot paint it! No sense getting your panties in a wad over it. THAT is my point...

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:29 PM
:rolleyes1 :headache:


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h207/catcathryn/Charley/100_1691.jpg

Brian_WDW74
02-20-2008, 05:31 PM
http://www.firsttvdrama.com/funstuff/tarkin/tarkin.jpg
"This bickering is pointless."

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 05:34 PM
http://www.firsttvdrama.com/funstuff/tarkin/tarkin.jpg
"This bickering is pointless."

:rotfl: I agree! CathrynRose...no hard feelings - and I didn't mean to single you out here! I am just more of the "don't sweat the small stuff" mind KWIM?

Robo
02-20-2008, 05:37 PM
Poor robo... its like he is able to read the future... kind of creepy

Did you read the skywriter clouds to be able to predict this debate?
Or was it tea leaves?:lmao:

I just...


KNEW!


:scared1:

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:40 PM
:rotfl: I agree! CathrynRose...no hard feelings - and I didn't mean to single you out here! I am just more of the "don't sweat the small stuff" mind KWIM?


I understand that - but ....

Just cuz you (not you-you) say it's okay - ignore it, it's something that really ruffles my feathers when people SAY 'its okay, ignore it' more then the writing itself.

Its really not okay - because as previously mentioned - there's things that wouldnt be okay to be writing - Kwim?

carlyle688
02-20-2008, 05:41 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/LoveMyTerriers/Misc%20Junk/surrender_dorothy.jpg

praline3001
02-20-2008, 05:43 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/LoveMyTerriers/Misc%20Junk/surrender_dorothy.jpg

bhahahahaahahahahahahahahah
okay this gave me my biggest laugh of the day!!!!!
Thanks for it!

The kids actual ran in the computer room to see why I was laughing so hard!!
:rotfl: :rotfl: :lmao:

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 05:46 PM
If there is a no fly zone over Disney - how is this guy getting away with it anyway? :confused3

Tinkerbell63
02-20-2008, 05:49 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when I saw this in July while on Expedition Everest, I felt a good feeling inside me and enjoyed the day even more.:)

Brian_WDW74
02-20-2008, 05:49 PM
If there is a no fly zone over Disney - how is this guy getting away with it anyway? :confused3

He's actually writing it over Kissimmee, but it's so large that it looks like it's overhead.

Robo
02-20-2008, 05:56 PM
I understand that - but ....

Just cuz you (not you-you) say it's okay - ignore it, it's something that really ruffles my feathers when people SAY 'its okay, ignore it' more then the writing itself.

Its really not okay - because as previously mentioned - there's things that wouldnt be okay to be writing - Kwim?



_________________

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/RoboWDW/Silly%20Stuff/Failure-to-Communicate.jpg

UrsulasShadow
02-20-2008, 05:58 PM
Nice try, Robo. But you know that once that can of worms is open...ain't NUTHIN' gonna seal it shut, save an act of Congress (or a mod).

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 05:58 PM
_________________

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/RoboWDW/Silly%20Stuff/Failure-to-Communicate.jpg


I think Im communicating well. I said I was annoyed - I made it very clear. ;) :)

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 05:59 PM
He's actually writing it over Kissimmee, but it's so large that it looks like it's overhead.

Ahhh...I see.

Brian_WDW74
02-20-2008, 06:00 PM
Nice try, Robo. But you know that once that can of worms is open...ain't NUTHIN' gonna seal it shut, save an act of Congress (or a mod).

Oh, sure. Now you have to bring politics into it. ;)

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 06:02 PM
:rotfl2:

UrsulasShadow
02-20-2008, 06:03 PM
Oh, sure. Now you have to bring politics into it. ;)

Why not? We brought Congress into the whole Roger Clemens thing, and they have no place there, either. I say we bring Congress into everything...don't like the new DDP? Congressional Hearings!
I could go on and on...

EVOLVE, people! (Didja see what I did right there? Little Darwinist humor? We're cookin' with fire now!)

yanceygb
02-20-2008, 06:15 PM
THIS IS OT---- But I am trying to send a private message to ntsammy5...I wanted to ask you about some things. Please email me yancey_gb@yahoo.com


Sorry guys to get OT.

*NikkiBell*
02-20-2008, 06:23 PM
Last I heard there is still a thing called "Free Speech" in the U.S.A. He isn't forcing anything down your throat. He isn't forcing you to read the message. It is in the public just like any other billboard, advertisment, etc. A little sky writing isn't violating any of your rights.

Good points. However, if the message said "Support Satan" or something pro-abortion, do you honestly think that it would be allowed to stay up for long without a fuss? Definitely not. Once again, it looks like a double standard to me. :confused3

Shir Kahn
02-20-2008, 06:24 PM
Why not? We brought Congress into the whole Roger Clemens thing, and they have no place there, either. I say we bring Congress into everything...don't like the new DDP? Congressional Hearings!
I could go on and on...

EVOLVE, people! (Didja see what I did right there? Little Darwinist humor? We're cookin' with fire now!)


:rotfl: :rotfl2: :lmao:

*NikkiBell*
02-20-2008, 06:27 PM
Can I agree with both of you? Just because we HAVE free speech does not mean we SHOULD abuse it. I think our society has forgotten something about tact and taste in all the noise.

And I'll add, it's not just the kinds of ads you list - it's all ads. Everywhere I go I'm bombarded with ads now! I can't even pump my gas or get my luggage at the airport in peace! It's just NOISE NOISE NOISE! After a while you just tune it out.

If some guy wants to skyright his religion, sure, he CAN - but it's not tasteful. I don't get offended, but it isn't exactly making me want to emulate his value system either....;) I just prefer my religion in a more tasteful manner.


Great points! I agree! :thumbsup2

Wow, talk about the flames jumping up within seconds. I was merely stating my opinion as did others who were saying how great this ir or asking why it bothers people to begin with. No need to start an all out religion debate. We all know that isn't going anywhere.

Okay, no more off-topic now. :)

I honestly thought that the skywriter was finished. I thought I had read that he was only doing this for a short period of time.

a Really Bad Egg
02-20-2008, 06:38 PM
I honestly thought that the skywriter was finished. I thought I had read that he was only doing this for a short period of time.

No. This is a full-time gig sponsored by the Church to counter the subliminal Satanic messages hidden throughout the Disney industry.

sassyat30
02-20-2008, 07:21 PM
No. This is a full-time gig sponsored by the Church to counter the subliminal Satanic messages hidden throughout the Disney industry.


:lmao: :rotfl:

Wait, you're kidding, right?? :eek:

Brer Chump
02-20-2008, 07:44 PM
No. This is a full-time gig sponsored by the Church to counter the subliminal Satanic messages hidden throughout the Disney industry.

I thought i saw a hidden Satan in the new SSE.

Feralpeg
02-20-2008, 08:11 PM
:rolleyes: Its called 'Ruining My Pictures!!!"


If Jesus loves me so much, why is he letting My Skywriter sabotage my gorgeous shots with his ridiculous writings.

And quite frankly - I know who loves me - I dont need Mr Skywriter to remind me, when Im trying to take a picture!

Im quite certain Jesus is aware of how much I adore Disney and is actually annoyed at Mr Skywriter as well, for upsetting me. :rolleyes1

On any given day, he doesn't do his sky writing for more than about a half hour. On most days, the letters blow away almost immediately. Why not aim your camera in a different direction for a few minutes?

Mr. & Mrs. Smith
02-20-2008, 08:14 PM
Not offfended - seriously. Annoyed. Much, much annoyed. He ruins my pictures - daily. I personally dont want happy faces, or Jesus loves you, in my pictures. Annoyed. Big time.

I agree. Is LONG LIVE SATAN, cool too? SELL YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL, alright? How about PARTY ON, WAYNE & GARTH? Freedom of speech my butt...

Not offended. Truly annoyed. My scenic pictures have ridiculous saying's in sky - and Im tired of Photoshopping them out.

It took me a minute to decide whether or not you were serious with this post but then I saw you repeat the same thing again so I assume you are. You think the police/military/government should step in and remove some guy from expressing himself in a lawful manner because it ruins your photos? :lmao: Well, the old lady who insisted on seeing Pooh at the same time as I did ruined my mother's photo because she wanted one with Pooh and I alone back in 1982. Does that mean that she should have been kicked out of the park or better yet, arrested? You're being ridiculous, in my opinion.

I could care less if it said "Long live Satan" or "The sky is green". If it's not hate speech and the person is expressing themselves in a lawful way, then who cares?

Look! An *S* form the notortious MR Skywriter....

An S! Oh the horror of it all. :scared1:

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 08:33 PM
It took me a minute to decide whether or not you were serious with this post but then I saw you repeat the same thing again so I assume you are. You think the police/military/government should step in and remove some guy from expressing himself in a lawful manner because it ruins your photos? :lmao: Well, the old lady who insisted on seeing Pooh at the same time as I did ruined my mother's photo because she wanted one with Pooh and I alone back in 1982. Does that mean that she should have been kicked out of the park or better yet, arrested? You're being ridiculous, in my opinion.

I could care less if it said "Long live Satan" or "The sky is green". If it's not hate speech and the person is expressing themselves in a lawful way, then who cares?



An S! Oh the horror of it all. :scared1:

Agian - annoys me. Everyone has their own peeves, and personally - this is mine. Its uncalled for, IMO.

And lawfull or not - Disney made themselves a no-fly zone, and this clown is getting around that with his giant letters apparently made in Kissimee. Lawfull - fine. Its still not (IMO) what Disney wants.

And where did I talk about the military stepping in??

It. Annoys. Me.

Brian_WDW74
02-20-2008, 08:37 PM
No. This is a full-time gig sponsored by the Church to counter the subliminal Satanic messages hidden throughout the Disney industry.

http://psc.disney.go.com/eventservices/disneygallery/media/events/WDCC%20Chernabog.jpg http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n297/pdxWoman/Maleficent2.jpg
http://mattritchie.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/windowslivewriterjesusjohnandhades-113f1hades2.jpg http://www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2007/07/michael-eisner-picture-1.jpg

Okay. Maybe not all of these images are Satanic. ;)

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 08:38 PM
On any given day, he doesn't do his sky writing for more than about a half hour. On most days, the letters blow away almost immediately. Why not aim your camera in a different direction for a few minutes?

In that one picture I posted, he has several lines of text.

I shouldnt have to turn my camera away.

And this is not directed to you - but rather Mr Skywriter: Not everyone believes in Jesus - and shouldnt have to see your views when theyre on vacation with their family.

Why should I, or anyone else have to 'look away' - this is in the view of just about all the Disney Parks. This isnt sponsored by Disney and I shouldnt have to be subjected to it. I paid to be at Disney - not read Jesus messages.

happyindisney
02-20-2008, 08:39 PM
Not sure if Disney is still a no-fly zone. Was at Epcot tonight and while having dinner ar the Rose&Crown, there was a plane with a banner advertising a Saloon that is now open. There was also several helicopters flying right over head.

Also found this online....
From "Walt Disney on Faith, Church, Bible Study, Prayer & God" on Disney Dreamer website (v. 29 April 2005):

...I am personally thankful that my parents taught me at a very early age to have a strong personal belief and reliance in the power of prayer for Divine inspiration. My people were members of the Congregational Church in our home town of Marceline, Missouri. It was there where I was first taught the efficacy of religion... how it helps us immeasurably to meet the trial and stress of life and keeps us attuned to the Divine inspiration... Deeds rather than words express my concept of the part religion should play in everyday life. I have watched constantly that in our movie work the highest moral and spiritual standards are upheld, whether it deals with fable or with stories of living action. This religious concern for the form and content of our films goes back 40 years to the rugged financial period in Kansas City when I was struggling to establish a film company and produce animated fairy tales. Many times during those difficult years, even as we turned out Alice in Cartoonland and later in Hollywood the first Mickey Mouse, we were under pressure to sell out or debase the subject matter or go "commercial" in one way or another. But we stuck it out... Both my study of Scripture and my career in entertaining children have taught me to cherish them... Thus, whatever success I have had in bringing clean, informative entertainment to people of all ages, I attribute in great part to my Congregational upbringing and my lifelong habit of prayer...
[Quoted from Roland Gammon's book] Faith is a Star, New York E. P. Dutton & Co. 1963. Roland Gammon went on a search of famous people for content on his 1963 book about prayer... Walt Disney wrote the article above for this publication. Walt Disney held deep personal beliefs. Elias Disney (Walt's Dad) was a deacon and named Walt after the family minister Walter Parr. (St. Paul Congregational Church in Chicago) Walt's brother Herbert had a daughter named Dorothy and she married a minister, Glenn Puder. It was at Walt's request that the Reverend Puder delivered the invocation at Disneyland's grand opening on July 17, 1955. Represented at the dedication were Catholic, Jewish and Protestant faiths.

I don't think Walt would have minded at all....

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 08:44 PM
Not sure if Disney is still a no-fly zone. Was at Epcot tonight and while having dinner ar the Rose&Crown, there was a plane with a banner advertising a Saloon that is now open. There was also several helicopters flying right over head.

..

Disney is a no-fly zone. Any RED helicopters you saw, are Disneys. As far as the banner'd plane - no idea.

Ill be honest with you - Im suprised Im the only one who see's this ....annoying.

:confused3

TheTXTaylors5
02-20-2008, 08:48 PM
DH and I were playing with the kids on the beach at the Grand Floridian. Then all of a sudden I started seeing this writing in the sky, first a "J", then an "E", and so on. I thought maybe someone was being romantic or proposing. Well, when they were finished it read, "Jesus Loves You". I kid you not I looked to my husband and said how sweet, some guy named J'esus (hispanic pronounciation) wrote that for his woman. DH looked over at me and said it reads Jesus NOT J'esus silly. :lmao: True story.

- Jennifer

GrowingUpDisney
02-20-2008, 08:49 PM
DH and I were playing with the kids on the beach at the Grand Floridian. Then all of a sudden I started seeing this writing in the sky, first a "J", then an "E", and so on. I thought maybe someone was being romantic or proposing. Well, when they were finished it read, "Jesus Loves You". I kid you not I looked to my husband and said how sweet, some guy named J'esus (hispanic pronounciation) wrote that for his woman. DH looked over at me and said it reads Jesus NOT J'esus silly. :lmao: True story.

- Jennifer

:lmao: Are you blonde? (Asked by a blonde - don't be offended!):rotfl2:

lrab1126
02-20-2008, 08:53 PM
we saw the jesus loves you guy in august while we were on the launch from FW. We had a good laugh, he isn't very neat :rotfl:

UrsulasShadow
02-20-2008, 08:54 PM
Look, I find it somewhat nauseating, too, and somewhat insulting, but I pick my battles. Writing it in the sky is not the same as including it in schoolchildren's textbooks.

TheTXTaylors5
02-20-2008, 08:55 PM
:lmao: Are you blonde? (Asked by a blonde - don't be offended!):rotfl2:

:rotfl: Very funny! No, I'm a brunette. Thinking back it was a pretty silly comment. But, my mind was elsewhere at the time. We were having a nice relaxing family day and religion was the last thing on my mind.

- Jennifer

praline3001
02-20-2008, 08:57 PM
we saw the jesus loves you guy in august while we were on the launch from FW. We had a good laugh, he isn't very neat :rotfl:

Thats okay... when we saw him last week he had his U upside down and had to start all over again :lmao:

katie26
02-20-2008, 08:58 PM
DH and I were playing with the kids on the beach at the Grand Floridian. Then all of a sudden I started seeing this writing in the sky, first a "J", then an "E", and so on. I thought maybe someone was being romantic or proposing. Well, when they were finished it read, "Jesus Loves You". I kid you not I looked to my husband and said how sweet, some guy named J'esus (hispanic pronounciation) wrote that for his woman. DH looked over at me and said it reads Jesus NOT J'esus silly. :lmao: True story.

- Jennifer

I thought the same exact thing! :rotfl: I was looking up at the sky while he was writing the message, and I was like... ooh, I can't wait to see who Hay-zeus loves! Then I was like... oh. D'oh!

drnlhome
02-20-2008, 09:01 PM
I know - Disney can put up the roof over the parks so no one will have to look at it!! You know the one - the one that makes it rain so we have to buy $15 ponchos. ;)

Don't sweat the small stuff, folks! Life is way too short! :goodvibes

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 09:03 PM
Thats okay... when we saw him last week he had his U upside down and had to start all over again :lmao:

You'd think he'd have it down by now - he's been doing it literally for years.;)

lrab1126
02-20-2008, 09:06 PM
we felt like we were playing some kind of game while he was doing it because he goes so slow...so every new letter he did everyone would start trying to guess what he was writing.

We actually took pics of it and we also had some of our own ideas of what we would like to write in the sky...but I will tell you they were far from being religious themed :banana:

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 09:08 PM
I will tell you they were far from being religious themed :banana:


Everyone uses the Banana when theyre being naughty. ;)

a Really Bad Egg
02-20-2008, 09:09 PM
And where did I talk about the military stepping in??

I heard - at the request of someone over at Universal - that they were thinking about shooting the guy out of the sky.

They are going to take a practice shot at a falling spy satellite this week...and if that works out...

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 09:10 PM
I heard - at the request of someone over at Universal - that they were thinking about shooting the guy out of the sky.

They are going to take a practice shot at a falling spy satellite this week...and if that works out...


:)

RoyalCanadian
02-20-2008, 09:16 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when I saw this in July while on Expedition Everest, I felt a good feeling inside me and enjoyed the day even more.:)

The last time this thread was dragged out of the cellar someone helpfully posted the FAA map for the Orlando area with the "Disney No-Fly Zone" clearly marked.

Aircraft are allowed to fly over WDW property. It is not a true no-fly zone as one might think. Those aircraft must remain above 3000 ft.

kgilchri
02-20-2008, 09:16 PM
Is it really that big of a deal? You could argue being offended by seeing someone wearing a cross or perhaps driving by a church on your way to WDW. Who cares? If you don't like it, don't pay attention to it. People are WAY too hypersensitive in this day and age imo.

Btw, I have a pic that I took while on the way to WDW from MCO. We thought it was more humorous then anything.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p228/kmphilli/O_Jesus.jpg

Shir Kahn
02-20-2008, 09:24 PM
Disney is a no-fly zone. Any RED helicopters you saw, are Disneys. As far as the banner'd plane - no idea.

Ill be honest with you - Im suprised Im the only one who see's this ....annoying.

:confused3

You're not, but I'm trying to follow Robo's advice and stay out of this one, because he's right, nobody's going to win. :)

collcass
02-20-2008, 09:25 PM
but why exactly would WDW be a no fly zone?

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 09:26 PM
You're not, but I'm trying to follow Robo's advice and stay out of this one, because he's right, nobody's going to win. :)

Fine. *totaling pouting*

I better not see that clown again in September, but I know I will. :upsidedow

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 09:28 PM
but why exactly would WDW be a no fly zone?

I dont know why specifically - but I do remember it was post September 11th.

As I mentioned - I remember those Church Street Station banners being flown over head, before then.

La2kw
02-20-2008, 09:36 PM
Not sure if Disney is still a no-fly zone. Was at Epcot tonight and while having dinner ar the Rose&Crown, there was a plane with a banner advertising a Saloon that is now open. There was also several helicopters flying right over head.

Also found this online....
From "Walt Disney on Faith, Church, Bible Study, Prayer & God" on Disney Dreamer website (v. 29 April 2005):

...I am personally thankful that my parents taught me at a very early age to have a strong personal belief and reliance in the power of prayer for Divine inspiration. My people were members of the Congregational Church in our home town of Marceline, Missouri. It was there where I was first taught the efficacy of religion... how it helps us immeasurably to meet the trial and stress of life and keeps us attuned to the Divine inspiration... Deeds rather than words express my concept of the part religion should play in everyday life. I have watched constantly that in our movie work the highest moral and spiritual standards are upheld, whether it deals with fable or with stories of living action. This religious concern for the form and content of our films goes back 40 years to the rugged financial period in Kansas City when I was struggling to establish a film company and produce animated fairy tales. Many times during those difficult years, even as we turned out Alice in Cartoonland and later in Hollywood the first Mickey Mouse, we were under pressure to sell out or debase the subject matter or go "commercial" in one way or another. But we stuck it out... Both my study of Scripture and my career in entertaining children have taught me to cherish them... Thus, whatever success I have had in bringing clean, informative entertainment to people of all ages, I attribute in great part to my Congregational upbringing and my lifelong habit of prayer...
[Quoted from Roland Gammon's book] Faith is a Star, New York E. P. Dutton & Co. 1963. Roland Gammon went on a search of famous people for content on his 1963 book about prayer... Walt Disney wrote the article above for this publication. Walt Disney held deep personal beliefs. Elias Disney (Walt's Dad) was a deacon and named Walt after the family minister Walter Parr. (St. Paul Congregational Church in Chicago) Walt's brother Herbert had a daughter named Dorothy and she married a minister, Glenn Puder. It was at Walt's request that the Reverend Puder delivered the invocation at Disneyland's grand opening on July 17, 1955. Represented at the dedication were Catholic, Jewish and Protestant faiths.

I don't think Walt would have minded at all....

I disagree. Walt Disney was also a drinker, but the MK doesn't have any bars in it. Walt Disney wanted his parks to be an escape from reality. If he really wanted religious messages to invade the illusion he designed at Disneyland, why didn't he build a church on Main Street? There isn't one at the MK either, which is the last park he was involved in. Just because he had religious beliefs doesn't mean he would approve of this guy's skywriting. It's a distraction from the illusion, just as a bar on Main Street or a Saloon in Frontierland would be a distraction from the illusion.

Again, that would distract from the illusion he wanted to set up.

disneycruise05
02-20-2008, 09:37 PM
http://psc.disney.go.com/eventservices/disneygallery/media/events/WDCC%20Chernabog.jpg http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n297/pdxWoman/Maleficent2.jpg
http://mattritchie.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/windowslivewriterjesusjohnandhades-113f1hades2.jpg http://www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2007/07/michael-eisner-picture-1.jpg

Okay. Maybe not all of these images are Satanic. ;)

You're right...Hades was WAY too funny to be Satanic!:lmao: As for the other three....well....

Brian_WDW74
02-20-2008, 09:43 PM
but why exactly would WDW be a no fly zone?

Both DL and WDW were declared no-fly zones in 2003 shortly after the Iraq War began. They are the only commercial sites within the U.S. that have been granted no-fly-zone protection

collcass
02-20-2008, 09:46 PM
Both DL and WDW were declared no-fly zones in 2003 shortly after the Iraq War began. They are the only commercial sites within the U.S. that have been granted no-fly-zone protection

Thanks. I googled it after I asked and saw that. Wow, that must have been some serious lobbying on Disneys part to be granted a no fly zone.

praline3001
02-20-2008, 09:49 PM
Thanks. I googled it after I asked and saw that. Wow, that must have been some serious lobbying on Disneys part to be granted a no fly zone.

I know! Poor Dumbo... thats why he doesn't do meet and greets anymore :sad2:

collcass
02-20-2008, 09:55 PM
I know! Poor Dumbo... thats why he doesn't do meet and greets anymore :sad2:


Oh darn, we were so hoping for an autograph;)

labattblue
02-20-2008, 09:57 PM
An S! Oh the horror of it all. :scared1::rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Sysyphus
02-20-2008, 09:57 PM
The "no-fly zones" over Disneyland and Disneyworld, or "Temporary Flight Restriction" to give them their correct name, came into effect in March of 2003 and consist of a 3 mile radius circle around the center of the parks, from the surface to 3,000ft.

a Really Bad Egg
02-20-2008, 10:14 PM
Anyone lucky enough to see a clear night sky tonight? Now that is heavenly.

:thumbsup2

Where's Pluto?
02-20-2008, 10:20 PM
We were there on the 3rd of Feb and saw one over Epcot. Pretty much everyone we saw was looking up to see what was being written. I actually got a chuckle out of the message, cause the guy wrote it upside down. Instead of saying "win with Jesus", it said "min mith Jesus"! Everyone was trying to figure out was "min mith" was and it wasn't until he began writting "Jesus" that people understood that he meant "win with". He ended up writting "Jesus" twice, guess he figured out that he spelled his first part of the message wrong.:confused3

CathrynRose
02-20-2008, 10:20 PM
Anyone lucky enough to see a clear night sky tonight? Now that is heavenly.

:thumbsup2

Indeed!!! :goodvibes Lookie: http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1729166

praline3001
02-20-2008, 10:45 PM
We were there on the 3rd of Feb and saw one over Epcot. Pretty much everyone we saw was looking up to see what was being written. I actually got a chuckle out of the message, cause the guy wrote it upside down. Instead of saying "win with Jesus", it said "min mith Jesus"! Everyone was trying to figure out was "min mith" was and it wasn't until he began writting "Jesus" that people understood that he meant "win with". He ended up writting "Jesus" twice, guess he figured out that he spelled his first part of the message wrong.:confused3

Thats what I meant!!! YOu were at Epcot the same day we were :rotfl:

I knew he did something upside down but my memory isn't so good :rotfl:

Where were you? We were over in Morocco at the time:laughing:

bhoffman
02-20-2008, 11:03 PM
I disagree. Walt Disney was also a drinker, but the MK doesn't have any bars in it. Walt Disney wanted his parks to be an escape from reality. If he really wanted religious messages to invade the illusion he designed at Disneyland, why didn't he build a church on Main Street? There isn't one at the MK either, which is the last park he was involved in. Just because he had religious beliefs doesn't mean he would approve of this guy's skywriting. It's a distraction from the illusion, just as a bar on Main Street or a Saloon in Frontierland would be a distraction from the illusion.

Again, that would distract from the illusion he wanted to set up.

Wow, religious messages invading Disney. The message of love and peace invading the happiest place on earth. Someone taking the time dreaming to wish others hope during the year of a Million dreams. Sure sounds like positive reinforcment to any illusion. It could just keep some people grounded just enough to believe. As far as alcohol, it's a depressant. Saying that Walt wanted to keep out booze for the same reason he wanted to keep out the church is as bad as saying guns are not allowed for the same reason gum is not sold on property. The Skywriter has never labled his message to specify a religion, just a simple thought, Jesus loves you. He does not force you to hear it like I have to hear screaming parents that have reached there limit with their children. He does not force you to have to act upon his message like we all have to open our bags for search to get in. (I'm more than willing to do this just sorry that it has come to this). You actually don't even have to look at it, it's not like it is between where you are and where you are going. Unless your time has been called and I sure would be glad to see that message between here and the afterworld. Many messages are sent and received while you visit Disney. Everyone should spend their time surrounding themselves and paying attention the ones that make them smile. Don't waste time trying to make something that can be so positive to so many a negitive. It seems the skywriting would be much easier to ignore than to fight. For those who, like me, enjoy the message read on. If you think it takes something away from your exprience don't look at it, I promise I won't read it to you. I won't bore you with it, but I still believe it's true even for you.

TheDisneyGirl02
02-20-2008, 11:05 PM
http://psc.disney.go.com/eventservices/disneygallery/media/events/WDCC%20Chernabog.jpg http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n297/pdxWoman/Maleficent2.jpg
http://mattritchie.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/windowslivewriterjesusjohnandhades-113f1hades2.jpg http://www.bloggingstocks.com/media/2007/07/michael-eisner-picture-1.jpg

Okay. Maybe not all of these images are Satanic. ;)

The only devil I see here isn't animated!!!! (Can you tell I'm NOT an Eisner fan?!)

I must admit, this thread did get a bit heated, but I laughed so hard at some of the posts - Jesus loves you thinking it was a message of love, no Dumbo meet and greets because of the no-fly zone and of course min mith Jesus!

Thanks for the laughs!!!! :)

attackwithnorth
02-20-2008, 11:20 PM
My opinion is this: It's not a big deal. This is coming from a non-religious, left-wing liberal individual. I do however have the gift of free will and can TURN AWAY from things I don't want to see and hear. I can also appreciate the beliefs of others, even those I do not share. For me, it makes it a whole lot easier to live in this world where I shrug my shoulders at the MINOR things that annoy me rather than make a big fight out of it.

a Really Bad Egg
02-21-2008, 07:13 AM
If you look at this topic as something other than a religious debate, I think it may provoke deeper thought.

The clear blue sky is a beautiful canvass given for all of us to enjoy. It's glorious; heavenly.

One guy constantly painting his message up there (no matter what it is) seems a bit over the top...and unfair.

Let me ask you this...if the message was 'Hillary Clinton' on every clear day, would you feel the same?

What about 'George Bush'?

What about 'Osama bin Laden'.

You see...it's not about religion. It's about someone painting on the canvas that belongs to no one of us, but to all of us. What if the sky was full of stuff (religious and non-religious) on every clear day? Would you get tired of it?

Would you really want everyone who had the means to put their grafitti up there? What if you woke up every day at home and someone was up there painting a message you did not want to see - on every clear day?

Personally, Jesus is a friend of mine. But I wouldn't mess up the sky every day to tell you that...I'd let the clear blue glorious sky send that same message.

Peace.

momof3girls6712
02-21-2008, 08:46 AM
I didn't mean to spark a religous debate about the writings. I was just curious. As for my comment about the money better being spent well thats just my opinion. We have a local church that throws lavish parties for it's members, yet doesn't provide services to the community. I feel the same way about the church. I had no intend on stirring the pot so to speak. I might not be a very religous person, but the writings did not bother me at all. Infact, my kids liked guessing what the final product would say.

letthewookiewin
02-21-2008, 09:01 AM
[QUOTE=CathrynRose;23330038]
I agree. Is LONG LIVE SATAN, cool too? SELL YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL, alright? How about PARTY ON, WAYNE & GARTH? Freedom of speech my butt...

Not offended. Truly annoyed. My scenic pictures have ridiculous saying's in sky - and Im tired of Photoshopping them out.

I guess - when you agree with it, it is. Is COME SEE THE STRIPPERS AT THE PUSSYCAT CLUB TONIGHT AT 8PM, okay with you? Would that be okay if you were wandering EPCOT and saw that? I doubt it.
QUOTE]

Actually, there was a local church that had a billboard that was black and in big white letters said, "I hate (insert name of church that I have since forgotten). -Satan. It was placed in front of a huge off ramp that has a steep half circle. The first time I saw it, I almost had a wreck I was so shocked. Did I like it? No Did I agree with it? NO I can understand the reasoning behind it. I thought they went about it the wrong way, but they have the right to advertise their church anyway they want.

You're right, I can see how they runed your entire trip. If I were you, I would find out the name of the church. Then I would sue them for the cost of said ruined trip, and for your time to take the offesive sky writing out of your pictures.:rolleyes:

The older I get the more I realize that there are people that truly believe that people with any type of religious view have no right to freedom of speech. They will equate any religious statement with that of strip club advertisements. I find it very offesive that someone would compare sky writing of "Jesus loves you" to the "Pussycat Club". However, it's your right to make that comparison, no matter how ridiculous I think it is.

If you've been to Las Vegas, and walked the strip, you know there are people that shove pamphlets with unclothed women advertising strip clubs. Those people are shoving something "down your throat". I don't like it, but it's their right to do it. Just like it's my right to throw it in the trash.

While we were at EPCOT in October 2006 we saw the sky writing. It said "God = :) ". It didn't offened me, and actually had the opposite effect. It put a smile on my face, and I took a picture of it. By the time I noticed it was there, it was so pale that you can't make it out in the pictures. I would still feel the same if it had been a statement about a religion that I do not believe in.

ok, I'll get off my soap box now, go take some more Cold/Allergy meds, and crawl back into bed.

UrsulasShadow
02-21-2008, 09:27 AM
If you look at this topic as something other than a religious debate, I think it may provoke deeper thought.

The clear blue sky is a beautiful canvass given for all of us to enjoy. It's glorious; heavenly.

One guy constantly painting his message up there (no matter what it is) seems a bit over the top...and unfair.

Let me ask you this...if the message was 'Hillary Clinton' on every clear day, would you feel the same?

What about 'George Bush'?

What about 'Osama bin Laden'.

You see...it's not about religion. It's about someone painting on the canvas that belongs to no one of us, but to all of us. What if the sky was full of stuff (religious and non-religious) on every clear day? Would you get tired of it?

Would you really want everyone who had the means to put their grafitti up there? What if you woke up every day at home and someone was up there painting a message you did not want to see - on every clear day?

Personally, Jesus is a friend of mine. But I wouldn't mess up the sky every day to tell you that...I'd let the clear blue glorious sky send that same message.

Peace.

I really like your point of view here. Well-taken.

Magic Maker
02-21-2008, 09:31 AM
I don't know exactly where I read this but, its probably less than productive to discuss individual religious convictions or beliefs.

Nobody can "win" in that debate.

;)

"I don't know where I read this..." You absolutely SLAY me!!!!:lmao:
And I agree. I'm a Christian, but don't count on me to turn the other cheek when debates get heated... :rolleyes1

Gooofy-Blade
02-21-2008, 09:32 AM
I think the moderators must be getting weak or falling asleep......this feeble debate is now over 8 pages long and should have been shut down at page 2 or 3....didn't someone say............"nobody wins" way back on those pages??

Robo
02-21-2008, 10:41 AM
"I don't know where I read this..." You absolutely SLAY me!!!!:lmao:


Why, thank you!

I just love FAN MAIL!

:goodvibes

NewEnglandCamper
02-21-2008, 11:45 AM
I have been meaning to ask this. We were at Disney 1/27 to 1/31. Each day different christian messages were written in the sky. Does anyone know why or who done this?

(hopefully these pictures work - my first time posting pics)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2154/2266407195_1139a2178a.jpg?v=0

We saw it too on 2/10!!!

I thought it was AWESOME!!!

What a way to witness to a large amount of people!!!

attackwithnorth
02-21-2008, 11:55 AM
If you look at this topic as something other than a religious debate, I think it may provoke deeper thought.

The clear blue sky is a beautiful canvass given for all of us to enjoy. It's glorious; heavenly.

One guy constantly painting his message up there (no matter what it is) seems a bit over the top...and unfair.

Let me ask you this...if the message was 'Hillary Clinton' on every clear day, would you feel the same?

What about 'George Bush'?

What about 'Osama bin Laden'.

You see...it's not about religion. It's about someone painting on the canvas that belongs to no one of us, but to all of us. What if the sky was full of stuff (religious and non-religious) on every clear day? Would you get tired of it?

Would you really want everyone who had the means to put their grafitti up there? What if you woke up every day at home and someone was up there painting a message you did not want to see - on every clear day?

Personally, Jesus is a friend of mine. But I wouldn't mess up the sky every day to tell you that...I'd let the clear blue glorious sky send that same message.

Peace.

Perfectly said.

Shir Kahn
02-21-2008, 12:00 PM
We saw it too on 2/10!!!

I thought it was AWESOME!!!

What a way to witness to a large amount of people!!!

See, I don't want to be witnessed to.

Now, I really wouldn't mind if this topic were locked and/or deleted, as I'm having a harder and harder time keeping out of this one. Is there a religious board here? If so, this and all other religious themed threads should be moved there. It just causes strife on the general forums. I like a peaceful forum and this thread isn't helping. :sad2:

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 12:13 PM
We saw it too on 2/10!!!

I thought it was AWESOME!!!

What a way to witness to a large amount of people!!!


Yes - and as you can see - all the people witnessed to, have seen the errors of their ways and are ready to Praise the Lord!!! :rolleyes:

Dont you see, that this witnessing doesnt work??? Seriously.... :confused3 For me personally, as previously stated, it annoyed me. And lets say (and i wasnt) but lets say I was half tempted to be born-again, this annoyance would further solidify my sinful ways.

letthewookiewin
02-21-2008, 12:32 PM
Yes - and as you can see - all the people witnessed to, have seen the errors of their ways and are ready to Praise the Lord!!! :rolleyes:

Dont you see, that this witnessing doesnt work??? Seriously.... :confused3 For me personally, as previously stated, it annoyed me. And lets say (and i wasnt) but lets say I was half tempted to be born-again, this annoyance would further solidify my sinful ways.

I'm sorry, but that has to be one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. If you were serious enough about any religion to be "born again", the fact that you could be swayed by some sky writing in some vacation photos speaks volumes about your character. Are you as wishy-washy on other topics?

Gooofy-Blade
02-21-2008, 12:34 PM
I don't know exactly where I read this but, its probably less than productive to discuss individual religious convictions or beliefs.

Nobody can "win" in that debate.

;)


............Again........!!! Look at the original question the OP had and now look at where we are now in this discussion. Are the Moderators on a day off today??? I appreciate you guys but I've seen other threads closed a lot quicker than this one that is now so off the original topic/question!

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 12:36 PM
I'm sorry, but that has to be one of the most ignorant statements I have ever read. If you were serious enough about any religion to be "born again", the fact that you could be swayed by some sky writing in some vacation photos speaks volumes about your character. Are you as wishy-washy on other topics?

I dont think I'm wishy washy at all.

I havent changed my view on this topic since I first started seeing the writings YEARS ago.

I dont see what's ignorant about saying that skywriting "Jesus Loves You" isnt going to make someone turn into a Christian or change their views on such.

Perhaps - because Im not interested in being 'born again' - I dont see the 'seriousness' of it.

Gooofy-Blade
02-21-2008, 12:38 PM
..........and lets say (and i wasnt) but lets say I was half tempted to be born-again, this annoyance would further solidify my sinful ways.

Since I see you are from Chicago.........
..........yea, kind of like when I see Chicago Cub fans cheer their team right out in front of everyone else, it makes me want to hate them even more....the nerve they have trying to influence me in such a way!;)

Not a flame, but a small attempt to show how shallow your statement is......I'd say you probably are not swayed that easy on your decision....just an opportunity to take a swipe at a religion!

GrowingUpDisney
02-21-2008, 12:40 PM
Perhaps - because Im not interested in being 'born again' - I dont see the 'seriousness' of it.

Now see, IMO, THIS is the most ignorant statement I have ever read. Maybe it is because I know that being 'born again' is the most serious decision one will ever make! :thumbsup2

1rockinmamato2
02-21-2008, 12:41 PM
Yes - and as you can see - all the people witnessed to, have seen the errors of their ways and are ready to Praise the Lord!!! :rolleyes:

Dont you see, that this witnessing doesnt work??? Seriously.... :confused3 For me personally, as previously stated, it annoyed me. And lets say (and i wasnt) but lets say I was half tempted to be born-again, this annoyance would further solidify my sinful ways.

Now, really, CathrynRose! Do you really mean that?

That's like saying, "Wooo!!! I hate the skywriter's message, let me sin some more!"

The skywriter's message is the same as someone else's that can be found in the Bible. Too bad Jesus didn't fly in a plane to spread his word across the land. ;)

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 12:57 PM
Since I see you are from Chicago.........
..........yea, kind of like when I see Chicago Cub fans cheer their team right out in front of everyone else, it makes me want to hate them even more....the nerve they have trying to influence me in such a way!;)

Not a flame, but a small attempt to show how shallow your statement is......I'd say you probably are not swayed that easy on your decision....just an opportunity to take a swipe at a religion!

Yes - that would annoy me too, as Im a Sox fan.

And it has nothing to do with taking a swipe at religion. I am NOT religious. What you and I take 'seriously' will completely vary.

Now, really, CathrynRose! Do you really mean that?

)

Actually - that was sarcasm. Ill continue to be *sinful*, either way. ;)


AT THIS POINT - Im backing out. I do NOT agree with the skywriting, and as Ive said a million times, it annoys the bejeebers out of me.

Jennasis
02-21-2008, 01:02 PM
Yes - and as you can see - all the people witnessed to, have seen the errors of their ways and are ready to Praise the Lord!!! :rolleyes:

Dont you see, that this witnessing doesnt work??? Seriously.... :confused3 For me personally, as previously stated, it annoyed me. And lets say (and i wasnt) but lets say I was half tempted to be born-again, this annoyance would further solidify my sinful ways.

Hey Ma'am! I was looking at your photos you posted earlier in the thread. I can see why you might be ticked about the skywriting in your photo. As a former professional photographer I would suggest eliminating the excess headroom in your photos (ie. tilt DOWN a bit). A little composition adjustment would prevent your photos from being ruined by just about ANY visual intrusion.

On a personal note...the sky-writer's witnessing didn't work for you, but perhaps it did wokr on someone. Even if it's just one person, then he's done what he set out to do. I think even if he makes a fellow Christian smile that day, he's accomplished his job.

The writing doesn't bother me. Conversely, I don't think I'd be annoyed if it said "vote Republican" or "GIve in to Satan" (the same message essentially hahaha!). Since neither of those messages pertains to me or interests me in any way, I'd probably just ignore them...and go out of my way to make sure no partof them is in my photos.

TommyTutone
02-21-2008, 01:05 PM
Great photo, but it looks like he is writing

'Jesus LOL'

Now that would make my day.

letthewookiewin
02-21-2008, 01:10 PM
Yes - and as you can see - all the people witnessed to, have seen the errors of their ways and are ready to Praise the Lord!!! :rolleyes:

Dont you see, that this witnessing doesnt work??? Seriously.... :confused3 For me personally, as previously stated, it annoyed me. And lets say (and i wasnt) but lets say I was half tempted to be born-again, this annoyance would further solidify my sinful ways.

ok, read the part that is highlighted in red again. The way it reads it sounds like if you were considering being "born again", that the "inconvenience" of having to photo shop it out of your pictures would sway you not to. ok, maybe wishy-washy was the wrong name for it. I guess easily swayed is more like it. The decision to be "born again" is a very serious decision, and to let something like sky writing in Disney vacation pictures sway your decision has to be the most igorant thing I have read on any message board.

ok, so take the religion part out of it, and it's just a big message in the sky. If it's an inconvience to any one person, it must go according to some of you. Let's just toss out the fact that the person that did it, has the First Amendment rights to do so. If you don't like what it say just look away or take your picutres at a different angle. For example, the picture in your siggy CathrynRose, there is a picture with Mickey's head photo shopped onto a well built male body. Well, it creep me out. (Actually it did my DH as well.) Do I instist that you change it? No, it's your right to have the siggy you want, so I just scroll past your siggy it whenever I see a post made by you.

Just in case everyone forgot how it reads, I'll include the First Amendment:

Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 01:15 PM
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ok, so take the religion part out of it, and it's just a big message in the sky. ]

Its a message in the sky that YOU happen to be okay with - as previously mentioned, if it said "COME TO THE PUSSYCAT CLUB AT 8 TONIGHT!" it might bother you. Or if it was a plane with a banner of built-Mickey - it might bother you.

Disney again, has a no-fly zone - this guy is intentionally trying to get around it.

Im not saying - lets shoot them out of the sky. Im saying it annoys me, tremendously. Just as my signature does, to you.

ntsammy5
02-21-2008, 01:19 PM
Hmmmmmm. Just popped in to see if this had been locked down yet -- evidently not.

1rockinmamato2
02-21-2008, 01:21 PM
Well, now I really do hope I get to see dude when we're down there next. And I want to take pictures of his writings too! :thumbsup2

1rockinmamato2
02-21-2008, 01:25 PM
You know, actually, DH and I weren't bothered by the gazillion (and I'm not exaggerating on that number ;) ) billboards on the interstate in Florida on our way to WDW that advertise the "risque" truck stop. Athough, in our state, there would NEVER be a billboard like that.

It's a billboard. And someday, if they are still up and our children are old enough to wonder what those are all about, we'll have to explain it to them in age-appropriate terms.

I wish I could remember the name of that truck stop. We got some great chuckles on the way down from their advertisements. :lmao:

Brian_WDW74
02-21-2008, 01:25 PM
Its probably less than productive to discuss individual religious convictions or beliefs.

Nobody can "win" in that debate.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/WOPR.jpg
"The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?"

Shir Kahn
02-21-2008, 01:28 PM
Well, now I really do hope I get to see dude when we're down there next. And I want to take pictures of his writings too!

Now that sounded like you said that to get under the skin of those of us who do not wish to see him.

It's really nice that it's ok for us to be inconvenienced by this, in that we can change our angles on our shots, never mind that I want to get my shots where I want to get them. To me, this is nothing more than graffiti.

Now I've gone and gotten involved in this. Mods, where are you? :confused:

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 01:31 PM
I wish I could remember the name of that truck stop. We got some great chuckles on the way down from their advertisements. :lmao:

Theyre planted every 50 feet or so....

This:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h207/catcathryn/Charley/100_1327.jpg



The thing is - youre driving down a highway. Youre not in a privately owned NON DENOMINATIONAL place you paid money to be....

I dont see it as the same thing.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 01:32 PM
Well, now I really do hope I get to see dude when we're down there next. And I want to take pictures of his writings too! :thumbsup2


Dont worry - he'll be there. :rolleyes:

Kaler131
02-21-2008, 01:34 PM
Why all the personal attacks on CathrynRose? She is entitled to her opinion just as everyone else is. You go girl! :thumbsup2

labdogs42
02-21-2008, 01:38 PM
We see the skywriting every trip! It is kind of a Disney tradition for us. We always find it fun to see what he's going to write. When I get my Photopass CD (should be arriving today), I'll have to post a funny picture with one of his messages in the background. We stopped for a picture on the bridge to France in WS and after we had the picture taken, we realized the skywriting was right over our heads! It is pretty funny.

ETA -- Didn't read all the posts before I posted! Yikes! Must go back and catch up before I write any more...

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 01:38 PM
Why all the personal attacks on CathrynRose? She is entitled to her opinion just as everyone else is. You go girl! :thumbsup2


Theyre really not personally attacking - Ive been through worse. Im a Community Board regular. :lmao:

BUT - I did say I was leaving, and I am.

And again - skywriting over Disney, no matter what it said, would annoy me. And just because you are cool with the message doesnt mean it's appropriate.

letthewookiewin
02-21-2008, 01:41 PM
Its a message in the sky that YOU happen to be okay with - as previously mentioned, if it said "COME TO THE PUSSYCAT CLUB AT 8 TONIGHT!" it might bother you. Or if it was a plane with a banner of built-Mickey - it might bother you.

Disney again, has a no-fly zone - this guy is intentionally trying to get around it.

Im not saying - lets shoot them out of the sky. Im saying it annoys me, tremendously. Just as my signature does, to you.

Yes, but you are saying he shouldn't be able to do it b/c it annoys you. I am saying if it does annoy you, just look away, like I do with your siggy.

If you would like to continue to talk in circle about this until you understand my meaning I have no problem with that. I would rather not considering I am sick with the flu.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 01:46 PM
Yes, but you are saying he shouldn't be able to do it b/c it annoys you. I am saying if it does annoy you, just look away, like I do with your siggy.

If you would like to continue to talk in circle about this until you understand my meaning I have no problem with that. I would rather not considering I am sick with the flu.


UGH! I wanna leave.....

This is the difference.

You CHOOOOOOSE to come DIS. Knowing full well you could see a Muscle Man Mickey. Im allowed to have it - its my DIS signature.

Im going to WDW and seeing NON DISNEY skywriting, while Im there - which is NOT drawn up there by Disney. Its someone getting around the no-fly zone with obnoxiously large letters (which is why he's sloppy) over Kissimmee.

If Disney sponsored Mr Skywriter - well then gee - I'd be just like you having to endure Muscle Man Mickey. But they do not. This man is invading both you and I, and everyone elses sky. But you just happen to like what he's writing.

deej696
02-21-2008, 01:49 PM
I think its safe to say, this conversation no longer has anything to do with Disney....:confused3

Next thread please....

JenM
02-21-2008, 02:00 PM
Im going to WDW and seeing NON DISNEY skywriting, while Im there - which is NOT drawn up there by Disney. Its someone getting around the no-fly zone with obnoxiously large letters (which is why he's sloppy) over Kissimmee.

If Disney sponsored Mr Skywriter - well then gee - I'd be just like you having to endure Muscle Man Mickey. But they do not. This man is invading both you and I, and everyone elses sky. But you just happen to like what he's writing.


For what it's worth, I agree with you. I've never seen the skywriting at WDW, but it would annoy me if I did.

I'd rather he spent his money helping others in need, instead of trying to preach to the Disney crowds, which he is clearly trying to do.

glitterkittyy
02-21-2008, 02:09 PM
I'm an atheist and a liberal. The liberal side wins out on this one. But I agree with the PP, it is annoying no matter what the message is. Well I might get a kick out of Surrender Dorothy. But he has a right to do it, and I wouldn't take a civil right away from anyone. That doesn't mean I don't think it's a stupid waste of time and money though, but that's his choice (and that goes for anything it might say...even Eat at Joes or Disney Rocks!).

I've been to Disney hundreds of times...nearly every weekend...and have only seen his skywriting a couple of times. I'm too busy looking around to look up, I guess. lol

TheDisneyGirl02
02-21-2008, 02:16 PM
I'd rather he spent his money helping others in need, instead of trying to preach to the Disney crowds, which he is clearly trying to do.

I must say that this is one of the best posts on this thread. It would be nice if he could take that money and donate to an organization, such as Give Kids the World, who help to bring ill children to Disney. I feel the same way about the political fund raising that goes on - so much money wasted that could be donated to the cancer society or other very worth while causes. That's just my opinion though.

I also like the poster who said that he loves the blue sky, which is a gift from Jesus. A beautiful day at Disney truly is a gift from up above.

zulemara
02-21-2008, 02:19 PM
You know, every time someone brings the skywriter up, I have to think...Why is it that this bothers some people? Have we gotten to the point in this country where we can hear anything on television, the movies, or in public yet cry that we're "offended" when someone mentions the word God or Jesus? Does not offend me in the least. More power to him!:)

TC:cool1:

yes, because at this point in my life, I associate people who would write something like that in the sky with the same ones supporting the anti gay marriage amendment in FL. I don't go around writing gays FTW in the sky so keep your religion out of my life. I don't want it and I don't want to see it referenced.

stellablue
02-21-2008, 02:20 PM
Wow, I just came across this post and can't believe it's accumulated 10 pages in a matter of 2 days....I guess the sky writer did manage to get his goal accomplished if he was looking for a little publicity!

Anyways, we saw the sky writing over MK during our trip a few weeks ago. Even though nothing can be done about it (since he's far away from WDW as others mentioned), we did find it a bit offensive. Not enough to ruin our trip of course, but it didn't really go with the MK theme, if you know what I mean. Also, I hate outside reminders of "the real world" while I'm at WDW-one of the best parts about WDW is that it strives to be completely isolated from the outside world. We get "religion pushers" all the time where we live at home and I would prefer their absence while I'm on vacation....unless of course it was telling me:

"Mickey Mouse is our lord and savior"

Then, that would be ok!:thumbsup2

disneycruise05
02-21-2008, 02:22 PM
If you look at this topic as something other than a religious debate, I think it may provoke deeper thought.

The clear blue sky is a beautiful canvass given for all of us to enjoy. It's glorious; heavenly.

One guy constantly painting his message up there (no matter what it is) seems a bit over the top...and unfair.

Let me ask you this...if the message was 'Hillary Clinton' on every clear day, would you feel the same?

What about 'George Bush'?

What about 'Osama bin Laden'.

You see...it's not about religion. It's about someone painting on the canvas that belongs to no one of us, but to all of us. What if the sky was full of stuff (religious and non-religious) on every clear day? Would you get tired of it?

Would you really want everyone who had the means to put their grafitti up there? What if you woke up every day at home and someone was up there painting a message you did not want to see - on every clear day?

Personally, Jesus is a friend of mine. But I wouldn't mess up the sky every day to tell you that...I'd let the clear blue glorious sky send that same message.

Peace.

Very well said! I see this as grafitti. It has nothing to do with religion (even though I don't agree with the message), but annoying writings above an area that's supposed to remove you from reality. I don't want to be walking around Adventureland to look up at the buildings, Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse, etc. only to see this.

With people saying "just don't look up..." well...how am I supposed to see the whole Castle without looking up? How about the Haunted Mansion? Spaceship Earth? I'm sorry, but looking up is required at Disney.

For what it's worth, CathrynRose, everything you've said I totally agree with.

letthewookiewin
02-21-2008, 02:23 PM
UGH! I wanna leave.....

This is the difference.

1. You CHOOOOOOSE to come DIS. Knowing full well you could see a Muscle Man Mickey. Im allowed to have it - its my DIS signature.
Im going to WDW and seeing NON DISNEY skywriting, while Im there - which is NOT drawn up there by Disney. Its someone getting around the no-fly zone with obnoxiously large letters (which is why he's sloppy) over Kissimmee.

If Disney sponsored Mr Skywriter - well then gee - I'd be just like you having to endure Muscle Man Mickey. But they do not. This man is invading both you and I, and everyone elses sky. But you just happen to like what he's writing.
Sure I didn't come here to get Disney info, but to see a Muscle Man Mickey. :rolleyes: Yet again you proved my point. Just like you have the right to have your siggy, he has the right to sky write.
ok, you obviously didn't understand my analogy using your siggy. Whether it really creeps me out or not is the point, as it was used as a mere example. The point is that it is his right under the First Amendment to sky write whatever message he wished. As long as he is not breaking any laws to do it. Also go back to post #118 and reread the part about the billboard. I didn't agree with it and was highly offended by it. However, I appreciated that church's First Amendment right to put what they wanted on their billboard. So even though, I didn't agree with what they were saying it, I did agree with their right to do so.

For what it's worth, I agree with you. I've never seen the skywriting at WDW, but it would annoy me if I did.

I'd rather he spent his money helping others in need, instead of trying to preach to the Disney crowds, which he is clearly trying to do.

I agree that they money would be better spent in other places. However, unless he is breaking any laws, it is his right do sky write.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 02:31 PM
"Mickey Mouse is our lord and savior"

Then, that would be ok!:thumbsup2

yeah - that'd be fine with me too. ;)

Or "Mickey Loves You! (with a) :) " THEN, I'd be smiling about it. ;) :lmao:



For what it's worth, CathrynRose, everything you've said I totally agree with.


I appreciate that, thank you.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 02:34 PM
I agree that they money would be better spent in other places. However, unless he is breaking any laws, it is his right do sky write.

Mr Skywriter might not be breaking the law, although he is intentionally getting around it.

There is a No Fly Zone over Disney - we've discussed this. He is aware of such, and legally stays in Kissimmee, making enourmous letters, to get around this.


ETA - Why cant I get outtttta here?!?!? LOL!

Tuffcookie
02-21-2008, 02:39 PM
Zulemara wrote: yes, because at this point in my life, I associate people who would write something like that in the sky with the same ones supporting the anti gay marriage amendment in FL. I don't go around writing gays FTW in the sky so keep your religion out of my life. I don't want it and I don't want to see it referenced.

Boy, talk about mixing apples and oranges!:rotfl:

TC:cool1:

disneycruise05
02-21-2008, 02:40 PM
ETA - Why cant I get outtttta here?!?!? LOL!

We've entered the thread...there's no escape!!!

Gooofy-Blade
02-21-2008, 03:05 PM
...........over 10 pages......and most of it off the original topic intent/question. I guess this proves that moderators have quit and we can run amuck!!!!!!

OK, I just found out that all those going to WDW and are offended by the skywriting don't have to worry anymore. I have confirmed that his message is intended for UNIVERSAL STUDIOS crowds only.:scared1: :rotfl2: Now, you won't have to be worried that he is crashing your WDW day!

WOW, glad that is resolved now and we can all move along. Keep moving folks, there's nothing to see here...

1rockinmamato2
02-21-2008, 03:08 PM
...........over 10 pages......and most of it off the original topic intent/question. I guess this proves that moderators have quit and we can run amuck!!!!!!



WOW, glad that is resolved now and we can all move along. Keep moving folks, there's nothing to see here...

Amuck, amuck, amuck, amuck!!!

:rotfl2:

letthewookiewin
02-21-2008, 03:11 PM
Mr Skywriter might not be breaking the law, although he is intentionally getting around it.

There is a No Fly Zone over Disney - we've discussed this. He is aware of such, and legally stays in Kissimmee, making enourmous letters, to get around this.


ETA - Why cant I get outtttta here?!?!? LOL!

Do you have any proof that he does this just to get around the Disney no fly zone? Honsetly his sky writing is no larger than sky writing I have seen when not at WDW. It may be that it's just one of the ways his church preaches to the masses, and that church may be in Kissimmee.

Just like no one is forcing you to look at the sky writing, no one is forcing you to stay in this thread. ;) I just hope that in our little "debate" you leave with the fact that his First Amendment rights are just as important as yours.

I'm sure the one thing we can agree on is there is no place we would rather be than with our DS's than WDW, sky writing or not.

letthewookiewin
02-21-2008, 03:16 PM
...........over 10 pages......and most of it off the original topic intent/question. I guess this proves that moderators have quit and we can run amuck!!!!!!

OK, I just found out that all those going to WDW and are offended by the skywriting don't have to worry anymore. I have confirmed that his message is intended for UNIVERSAL STUDIOS crowds only.:scared1: :rotfl2: Now, you won't have to be worried that he is crashing your WDW day!

WOW, glad that is resolved now and we can all move along. Keep moving folks, there's nothing to see here...

:lmao: :rotfl2: :lmao:
That is the funniest thing I've read in a while.:worship:

TheTXTaylors5
02-21-2008, 03:18 PM
...........over 10 pages......and most of it off the original topic intent/question. I guess this proves that moderators have quit and we can run amuck!!!!!!

OK, I just found out that all those going to WDW and are offended by the skywriting don't have to worry anymore. I have confirmed that his message is intended for UNIVERSAL STUDIOS crowds only.:scared1: :rotfl2: Now, you won't have to be worried that he is crashing your WDW day!

WOW, glad that is resolved now and we can all move along. Keep moving folks, there's nothing to see here...

I second the :lmao: ! DISboards is suppose to be friendly and fun. You NEVER talk politics or religion with friends or coworkers. That is probably true on here too.

- Jennifer

JeremyGNJ
02-21-2008, 03:22 PM
I only have one thing to add to this thread:

Walt would not approve

I dont know if he was religious or not, but it certainly doesnt fit the theme of "forgetting the outside world". If he were alive he probably would have paid off some politicians to take care of it. :)

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 03:25 PM
Zulemara wrote: yes, because at this point in my life, I associate people who would write something like that in the sky with the same ones supporting the anti gay marriage amendment in FL. I don't go around writing gays FTW in the sky so keep your religion out of my life. I don't want it and I don't want to see it referenced.

Boy, talk about mixing apples and oranges!:rotfl:

TC:cool1:

Thats not fair. It is a religious dealio with the Gay Marriage which is going to leave an open wound - and seeing Jesus Loves You *for this poster* (remember, youre all pushing your freedom of speech) is a bitter reminder of what he's dealing with.

We've entered the thread...there's no escape!!!

YES!!!, I know!! Sucked in, like a black hole!

...........over 10 pages......and most of it off the original topic intent/question. I guess this proves that moderators have quit and we can run amuck!!!!!!

.

;)

http://www.mondotees.com/ProductImages/Decals/D0794B.jpg

Do you have any proof that he does this just to get around the Disney no fly zone? Honsetly his sky writing is no larger than sky writing I have seen when not at WDW. It may be that it's just one of the ways his church preaches to the masses, and that church may be in Kissimmee.

I just hope that in our little "debate" you leave with the fact that his First Amendment rights are just as important as yours.

I'm sure the one thing we can agree on is there is no place we would rather be than with our DS's than WDW, sky writing or not.

Listen - seriously. Im not going to give giant letter skywriter the benefit of the doubt and say "Oh, he's just doing this in Kissimmee and every stinking Disney tourist just HAPPPPENS to see it" Thats absurd. You and I both know it.

And it IS larger - hence why it looks sloppy and breaks up and blows away more quickly. He knows exactly what he is doing - and they'll be no benefit of the doubt, from me - sorry.

Freedom of speech - fine. It still is completely and utterly ANNOYING to me.

And yes - I'd rather be in Disney - 205 days, and I hope gas prices are too high by then for Mr Skywriter to continue his hijinx. ;)

a Really Bad Egg
02-21-2008, 03:27 PM
I only have one thing to add to this thread:

Walt would not approve



Too late...we've already covered that and decided that some agree and some disagree.

Next.

:lmao:

JeremyGNJ
02-21-2008, 03:30 PM
Too late...we've already covered that and decided that some agree and some disagree.

Next.

:lmao:

Doh, serves me right for not reading the whole juicy thread. Let me change my statement:

Jeremy does not approve. I don't "witness" anyone to the things I believe, and I just find it rather silly when people want to "recruit" others who are so easily influenced that they would jump religions based on seeing a sign.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 03:36 PM
I only have one thing to add to this thread:

Walt would not approve



Doh, serves me right for not reading the whole juicy thread. Let me change my statement:

Jeremy does not approve. I don't "witness" anyone to the things I believe, and I just find it rather silly when people want to "recruit" others who are so easily influenced that they would jump religions based on seeing a sign.

:lmao: :rotfl: :lmao:

a Really Bad Egg
02-21-2008, 03:37 PM
Doh, serves me right for not reading the whole juicy thread..

:rotfl2:

UrsulasShadow
02-21-2008, 03:39 PM
Insofar as first amendment rights to not extend to those who may cause harm with their exhortations (such as shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded movie theater), I suggest that the sky writer in question is inciting harm to large numbers of confined witnesses, in some cases causing uncontrollable nausea and vomiting, which in and of itself causes health hazards such as slipping and falling, not to mention huge monetary losses with wardrobe replacement, etc....

Brian_WDW74
02-21-2008, 03:44 PM
One thing I find interesting is that people are arguing about "him" without knowing who "he" is. His name is Jerry Stevens:
http://www.turntojesus.net/WordsFromTheSkywriter/wordsfromtheskywriter_files/300_JerryCloseUp3x1.gif

And here's the plane he does his "business" in:
http://www.turntojesus.net/ContactTheSkywriter/contacttheskywriter_files/577_577_jerry.jpg

We now return you to your regularly scheduled bickering, already in progress. ;)

UrsulasShadow
02-21-2008, 03:46 PM
One thing I find interesting is that people are arguing about "him" without knowing who "he" is. His name is Jerry Stevens:
http://www.turntojesus.net/WordsFromTheSkywriter/wordsfromtheskywriter_files/300_JerryCloseUp3x1.gif

And here's the plane he does his "business" in:
http://www.turntojesus.net/ContactTheSkywriter/contacttheskywriter_files/577_577_jerry.jpg

We now return you to your regularly scheduled bickering, already in progress. ;)

Oh, goody. Now I can put a face to my utter feeling of disdain.

1rockinmamato2
02-21-2008, 03:59 PM
One thing I find interesting is that people are arguing about "him" without knowing who "he" is. His name is Jerry Stevens:
http://www.turntojesus.net/WordsFromTheSkywriter/wordsfromtheskywriter_files/300_JerryCloseUp3x1.gif

And here's the plane he does his "business" in:
http://www.turntojesus.net/ContactTheSkywriter/contacttheskywriter_files/577_577_jerry.jpg

We now return you to your regularly scheduled bickering, already in progress. ;)


Poor lil fella. ;) :rolleyes1

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 04:03 PM
One thing I find interesting is that people are arguing about "him" without knowing who "he" is. His name is Jerry Stevens:
http://www.turntojesus.net/WordsFromTheSkywriter/wordsfromtheskywriter_files/300_JerryCloseUp3x1.gif


We now return you to your regularly scheduled bickering, already in progress. ;)

Now, I must preface this with the fact I have no psychiatric training, however - he IMO looks crazy. Has a crazy look in his eye. Very unstable. :rolleyes1

Oh, goody. Now I can put a face to my utter feeling of disdain.


:lmao: :laughing: :lmao:

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 04:10 PM
http://www.turntojesus.net/home.html

Brian_WDW74
02-21-2008, 04:13 PM
http://www.turntojesus.net/home.html

Yep, that's where I got the pictures from. The site also has his contact information, so feel free to send him fan mail/hate mail if you so choose. :lmao:

tnmomof4
02-21-2008, 04:15 PM
Freedom of speech - fine. It still is completely and utterly ANNOYING to me.




I think that this is the point. Freedom of speech is fine. We all believe in different things too. When I see the Jesus Loves You it doesn't annoy me because I believe Jesus does love me. I have looked up at Disney and seen this in the sky and within a few seconds it started blowing away.

Now if it were a different message that I didn't agree with then it would be annoying to me. I wouldn't say they can't do it because of freedom of speech, but it would still annoy me and I wouldn't like it. I probably would come on here and say "Guess what I saw above Disney". I would say just like CathrynRose that freedom of speech is fine, but what I saw was annoying to me.

Gooofy-Blade
02-21-2008, 04:30 PM
...........over 10 pages......and most of it off the original topic intent/question. I guess this proves that moderators have quit and we can run amuck!!!!!!

OK, I just found out that all those going to WDW and are offended by the skywriting don't have to worry anymore. I have confirmed that his message is intended for UNIVERSAL STUDIOS crowds only.:scared1: :rotfl2: Now, you won't have to be worried that he is crashing your WDW day!

WOW, glad that is resolved now and we can all move along. Keep moving folks, there's nothing to see here...

One thing I find interesting is that people are arguing about "him" without knowing who "he" is. His name is Jerry Stevens:
http://www.turntojesus.net/WordsFromTheSkywriter/wordsfromtheskywriter_files/300_JerryCloseUp3x1.gif

And here's the plane he does his "business" in:
http://www.turntojesus.net/ContactTheSkywriter/contacttheskywriter_files/577_577_jerry.jpg

We now return you to your regularly scheduled bickering, already in progress. ;)

WOW, this photo proves my first point about a secret UNIVERSAL STUDIOS plot.......place your mouse on the plane wing in the picture and slowly bend it upwards. The photo will flip and you will see the words, universal joint access here" in small print on the plane. (feel free to add photoshop work here!). :thumbsup2 Simply delete the reference to the joint and forget about any maintenance knowledge you have and there you have it...Universal.......Conspiracy confirmed!:scared1:

Quest4fun
02-21-2008, 04:31 PM
Holy Smoke, Inc.
1951 Northwest 29th
Boca Raton, FL 33431
(561) 994-1970

Feel free to drop him a line and let him know how happy you are that he is sharing his message with you.

/sarcasm

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 04:33 PM
Holy Smoke, Inc.
1951 Northwest 29th
Boca Raton, FL 33431
(561) 994-1970

Feel free to drop him a line and let him know how happy you are that he is sharing his message with you.


Or not!!! :goodvibes

Feralpeg
02-21-2008, 04:39 PM
I find all the blimps floating around for advertising purposes a lot more annoying than the sky writing. They are always blimps in the area of WDW. The sky writing is gone in a matter of a five to ten minutes at most. The blimps hang around for hours. I don't see the difference. Both things are advertising and are very visible from WDW property.

Brian_WDW74
02-21-2008, 04:44 PM
I find all the blimps floating around for advertising purposes a lot more annoying than the sky writing. They are always blimps in the area of WDW. The sky writing is gone in a matter of a five to ten minutes at most. The blimps hang around for hours. I don't see the difference. Both things are advertising and are very visible from WDW property.

Somebody should tell MetLife to stop sponsoring blimps and start sponsoring the Wonders of Life Pavilion again. :)

Jacklynn
02-21-2008, 04:55 PM
yes, because at this point in my life, I associate people who would write something like that in the sky with the same ones supporting the anti gay marriage amendment in FL. I don't go around writing gays FTW in the sky so keep your religion out of my life. I don't want it and I don't want to see it referenced.


That's not fair to associate all Christians with that stuff, Christians are so misrepresented, those who claim to be Christians and yet are so hateful I question their true faith. That is why I can't stand groups like Fred Phelps and The West Burro (sp?) Baptist Church (not actually a Baptist church though) -- the group that claims they are Christian and yet protest soldier's funerals and have signs that say "God hates America, thank God for 9/11" and "God hates Fags" and their latest "Thank God for the NIU deaths" (yes these people are awful) I CAN'T STAND THAT GROUP they misrepresent what a Christian is. THAT IS NOT WHO WE ARE.

I am a Christian (and ministry student getting ready to get my B.S. in May in ministry), and that is not what Christianity is. So while I don't think writing that stuff in the sky is really a good use of money, maybe its the only talent he things he has (whether he does it well or not) to spread his faith. I don't think anyone is going to look up and see his message and it cause them to find God, but if he feels called to it, he has every right to try. I have to deal with billboards that are almost porn on the side of the road, I wish it wasn't there, but that doesn't mean they don't have the right.

So yes it is a waste of money and could be put to better use, but he has the right and even if it was an anti-Christian. I would just use it as a lesson for my kids about how all sorts of messages will be thrown out at them and they need to discern between what they believe and what the message is saying. (Though I don't have kids yet)

GrowingUpDisney
02-21-2008, 04:57 PM
Doh, serves me right for not reading the whole juicy thread. Let me change my statement:

Jeremy does not approve. I don't "witness" anyone to the things I believe, and I just find it rather silly when people want to "recruit" others who are so easily influenced that they would jump religions based on seeing a sign.

But see...he isn't trying to recruit anybody to anything! It is a simple message - Jesus loves you. A simple statement that is being taken way out of proportion! Geez - why is it that the mere mention of the name Jesus makes people freak out? :sad2:

UrsulasShadow
02-21-2008, 04:59 PM
But see...he isn't trying to recruit anybody to anything! It is a simple message - Jesus loves you. A simple statement that is being taken way out of proportion! Geez - why is it that the mere mention of the name Jesus makes people freak out? :sad2:
You think the name "Jesus" freaks people out? Try mentioning Rosie O'Donnell.

labdogs42
02-21-2008, 05:02 PM
Holy Smoke, Inc.
1951 Northwest 29th
Boca Raton, FL 33431
(561) 994-1970

Feel free to drop him a line and let him know how happy you are that he is sharing his message with you.

His website says: "God loves you so much that He is writing love letters to you in the sky." How come God needs a guy in a plane to do the writing??? :rotfl2:

GrowingUpDisney
02-21-2008, 05:03 PM
You think the name "Jesus" freaks people out? Try mentioning Rosie O'Donnell.

:lmao: Now that name makes me shudder! LOL j/k I like Rosie....when she isn't on one of her rants! :upsidedow

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 05:05 PM
Somebody should tell MetLife to stop sponsoring blimps and start sponsoring the Wonders of Life Pavilion again. :)

You got that right. :thumbsup2

His website says: "God loves you so much that He is writing love letters to you in the sky." How come God needs a guy in a plane to do the writing??? :rotfl2:


It also said God spoke to him and told him to do this.

OKay. :rolleyes1

Not feed starving children, help homeless people, work at a domestic violence shelter - but to ....Skywrite. :confused3

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Shir Kahn
02-21-2008, 05:06 PM
I would rather not see those billboards either. They're almost as bad. The reason why they're not quite as bad is that they're not taking away from my immersion into Disney.

labattblue
02-21-2008, 05:08 PM
Freedom of speech - fine. It still is completely and utterly ANNOYING to me.

You've made the same point over and over again. We get it. The guy ANNOYS you. Why repeat yourself over and over again?

PS I don't care either way about this skywriter. I am a practicing Catholic who is not going to get on his knees and pull out my rosary when I see him start his skywriting nor am I going to get all upset because he is violating the airspace during my WDW vacation.

I'll move on now.:rolleyes1 :rolleyes1

UrsulasShadow
02-21-2008, 05:11 PM
Or at the very least, get you some well-deserved points.

Shir Kahn
02-21-2008, 05:14 PM
Points? :confused:

labattblue
02-21-2008, 05:16 PM
Alright, Im going to take one for the team here...

Its a shame that a hottie showing some clevage like Cathrynrose has to be such a b about the subject.

There, that ought to get this thread locked down.

You are a team player!:lmao: :lmao:

pta-mom
02-21-2008, 05:17 PM
It also said God spoke to him and told him to do this.

OKay. :rolleyes1

Not feed starving children, help homeless people, work at a domestic violence shelter - but to ....Skywrite. :confused3

:confused: :confused: :confused:


How do you know he is not doing those things AS WELL?

Quest4fun
02-21-2008, 05:18 PM
How do you know he is not doing those things AS WELL?

Because food wasn't falling out of his plane.

mm_ja
02-21-2008, 05:18 PM
Its ok, right now I am under budget on points.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 05:23 PM
You've made the same point over and over again. We get it. The guy ANNOYS you. Why repeat yourself over and over again?





Freedom of Speech!! That why!! :woohoo:

Alright, Im going to take one for the team here...


There, that ought to get this thread locked down.

Nice. :sad2:

Or at the very least, get you some well-deserved points.

Indeed - one can only *pray*!! :angel:

:laughing: :laughing:

Points? :confused:

Ummmm - the DIS point system. I dont have a link. Someone might.

Because food wasn't falling out of his plane.


OMG. :rotfl:

pta-mom
02-21-2008, 05:25 PM
Because food wasn't falling out of his plane.


No need to be rude...my question was valid. Just because you see someone doing something that you might not do or understand does not mean that is ALL that person does.

It would seem to me that if this individual expresses his love for the Lord to the extent that he would gladly be ridiculed for it, than it's a good bet that he would also serve in other ways as well.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 05:27 PM
No need to be rude...my question was valid. Just because you see someone doing something that you might not do or understand does not mean that is ALL that person does.

It would seem to me that if this individual expresses his love for the Lord to the extent that he would gladly be ridiculed for it, than it's a good bet that he would also serve in other ways as well.


Quite frankly - someone who announces that God told them to skywrite love letters across the sky - whom announces items like THAT, would also share his helping of starving children, etc etc.

Thats just my opinion, of course.

Quest4fun
02-21-2008, 05:27 PM
Its ok, right now I am under budget on points.

The only way to lock down a thread is to get way off topic, or you can attack a moderator or a friend of a moderator.

http://www.slapyo.com/wp-content/wrong01.jpg

UrsulasShadow
02-21-2008, 05:27 PM
No need to be rude...my question was valid. Just because you see someone doing something that you might not do or understand does not mean that is ALL that person does.

It would seem to me that if this individual expresses his love for the Lord to the extent that he would gladly be ridiculed for it, than it's a good bet that he would also serve in other ways as well.
Yeah, like polluting the environment with the emissions from that li'l plane of his'n.

Tammysue5
02-21-2008, 05:28 PM
I (like a previous poster, ) saw the Billboards that advertised "we bare all!" We had a good chuckle (Me, DH and DS16) as our little ones asked what was so funny.... Did they ruin my trip...no...am I glad they are not in my State? Yes.

Honestly we had the girls pics taken in the Rose Garden after the BBB and when the CMs were making up the Photo package they apologized for the 'sky writing'. Truthfully I had not even really noticed it. The CMs explained that pics taken there often have the sky writing in them. When I picked the pic I wanted as an 8x10 I just cropped off the top. However, I did keep the other pics.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd134/tammysue5/Disney039.jpg

Shir Kahn
02-21-2008, 05:31 PM
That's seriously just wrong. :mad:

Quest4fun
02-21-2008, 05:32 PM
No need to be rude...my question was valid. Just because you see someone doing something that you might not do or understand does not mean that is ALL that person does.

It would seem to me that if this individual expresses his love for the Lord to the extent that he would gladly be ridiculed for it, than it's a good bet that he would also serve in other ways as well.

It's fine for an individual to express himself. This is still America though and people have a right to believe differently and should be able to go to a theme park and not have their experience compromised by sky writing. Imagine if this guy was handing out leaflets.

I have no problem with people who do this by the way. I just politely decline when they're offered to me. I can do so without giving them the finger or swearing. A simple "No thank you." always works and they always move on in a polite manner.

What if this guy was holding up a sign in a movie theater off to the side stating the same things? He may not be holding it in front of the screen or blocking anybody's view but he is still there and doing it on your time. Time that you've paid for.

Just saying.

/not an attack.
//simply a contrary position.
///the food commend was meant to be funny.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 05:34 PM
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd134/tammysue5/Disney039.jpg

Alright - seriously.... to the "It makes me smile, and warms the cockles of my heart" people - this is completely okay with you??? This picture is stunning, and now has ridiculous cloudy verbage in in, no matter what it says!!!

Im sorry - this is (Im gonna say it again!) ANNOYING!!!

DisDarling
02-21-2008, 05:34 PM
The only thing I came away from this thread thinking was "Wow that Mickey on thats guy's buff body is really freaking me out!!" :lmao:

Sorry Cathryn Rose! :goodvibes

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 05:35 PM
Just saying.

/not an attack.
//simply a contrary position.
///the food commend was meant to be funny.

It made me laugh. :thumbsup2

DisDarling
02-21-2008, 05:37 PM
I (like a previous poster, ) saw the Billboards that advertised "we bare all!" We had a good chuckle (Me, DH and DS16) as our little ones asked what was so funny.... Did they ruin my trip...no...am I glad they are not in my State? Yes.

Honestly we had the girls pics taken in the Rose Garden after the BBB and when the CMs were making up the Photo package they apologized for the 'sky writing'. Truthfully I had not even really noticed it. The CMs explained that pics taken there often have the sky writing in them. When I picked the pic I wanted as an 8x10 I just cropped off the top. However, I did keep the other pics.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd134/tammysue5/Disney039.jpg


Beautiful pic regardless!! She is a cutie!! :) :)

Mrs. Bee
02-21-2008, 05:37 PM
I haven't read all of the thread yet. But so far I have a few things to day...

1. If I had sky writing in my picture in front of the castle I would be more than annoyed (even though I am a Catholic. I don't want stuff like that ruining my photo.)

2. When we were there he had some trouble. Apparently "Jesus loves baiies"

3. It's not just sky writing telling us about Jesus and God. It's telling us this guys views on super controverisal things like abortion. I don't care to think about that while I'm enjoying my day at WDW.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 05:39 PM
The only thing I came away from this thread thinking was "Wow that Mickey on thats guy's buff body is really freaking me out!!" :lmao:

Sorry Cathryn Rose! :goodvibes

Ehhh - doesnt bother me. A friend of a friend, who is a DIS'er sent it to her, (because of the obsession with Disney we all have) and said something about it being her dream-guy. Cracked me up. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

a Really Bad Egg
02-21-2008, 05:44 PM
I am a practicing Catholic...

Just had to laugh at this quote and your member name. No offense (because I was raised Catholic) but we always joked that 'practicing Catholic' meant...well, drinking heavily. :lmao:

Again...no offense...just an 'inside' joke.

Now, where we we? Oh yeah..the sky graffiti...

:rotfl2:

Tammysue5
02-21-2008, 05:44 PM
Thanks Disdarling!

praline3001
02-21-2008, 05:44 PM
Alright - seriously.... to the "It makes me smile, and warms the cockles of my heart" people - this is completely okay with you??? This picture is stunning, and now has ridiculous cloudy verbage in in, no matter what it says!!!

Im sorry - this is (Im gonna say it again!) ANNOYING!!!

I have been reading this thread and getting a chuckle out of it I mean whats the big deal?!?... Before seeing the darling princess photo... now I can see the point of the annoying part of the skywriting. If it had been in the photos of my princess after her BBB... pics that she will save and have forever... well that would tick me off. I love Jesus as much as the next person :rotfl: but that photo shows me how much it takes away from pics ...

Okay Cathryn you converted another one... I just hope I dont end up in HELL-O
:rotfl2: :rotfl2:

In that particular photo it really takes away from the wonder and magic of the castle.

mm_ja
02-21-2008, 05:46 PM
Cathryrose

I apologize for my comments. I hastly posted an over the top comment trying to as I said "go over the top" be a little funny and put this to an end. Sometimes my sarcastic wit can get the better of me.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 05:47 PM
Okay Cathryn you converted another one... I just hope I dont end up in HELL-O
:rotfl2: :rotfl2:

In that particular photo it really takes away from the wonder and magic of the castle.

Thanks!!! It really DOES take away from it. And when youre lollygagging through the park - it really DOES take away from that 'removed from reality' feeling you have when youre at WDW.

Thats another point for the darkside ***evil laugh***. ;) :laughing:

http://lifeisaroad.com/images/darkside.jpg

Mrs. Bee
02-21-2008, 05:53 PM
Why all the personal attacks on CathrynRose? She is entitled to her opinion just as everyone else is. You go girl! :thumbsup2

Still reading through this thread.

Why is everyone just ganging up on CathrynRose? She has a right to her opinion. You don't agree with it? Fine. But no need to attack her. I haven't seen her attack anyone. She's just stating her views and a lot of you are being insanely rude to her. I don't see what you're trying to accomplish by attacking her views and calling her things like "ignorant" and "wishy washy" (or whatever it was.) What is the point? You don't have to agree with her views.

EDIT - still reading. What is wrong with muscle man mickey??

deej696
02-21-2008, 05:53 PM
So I heard a rumor the other day from a boat driver at the Contemporary that Splash Mountain is to be removed and replaced with a second version of Its a Small World, in order to satisfy overwhelming demand. This is exciting news!!!

Sorry just trying to change the subject......:)

labattblue
02-21-2008, 05:53 PM
I haven't thought about this guy in a long time. He used to show up at all kind of big sporting events during the 70's and 80's...

http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/stewart_hair.jpg

:rotfl: :rotfl:

PS For those too young to remember him, I found this 10 minute youtube clip about him...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot7J025JS5U

I hope no one is annoyed by him!

Mrs. Bee
02-21-2008, 05:59 PM
I'm not keeping track/paying attention so I'm not sure.

But are the same people that are saying it's okay for the sky writer because it's freedom of speech...the same people that want the mods to close this thread??? hmmmm...

praline3001
02-21-2008, 06:01 PM
Thanks!!! It really DOES take away from it. And when youre lollygagging through the park - it really DOES take away from that 'removed from reality' feeling you have when youre at WDW.

Thats another point for the darkside ***evil laugh***. ;) :laughing:

http://lifeisaroad.com/images/darkside.jpg


Oh now I know I am going to HELL-O :rotfl2:

Seriously, when we were in epcot and saw this, i thought it was kind of cute. It gave me a few minutes of rest as my kids stopped to try and read the message:rotfl: I am a religious person so I thought the message was good and VERY funny when he messed up and did it upside down :lmao:
Again, I saw the writing in Epcot and it did not obscure from any special views. Had I been trying to take a once in a lifetime photo of my little angel in front of the castle all dolled up... well I would be photoshopping the pic for sure.

I am sure the ones that like the message are a lot like myself... it didn't obscure from that special photo op or that magical moment in time. Most people see it off in the distance and not right smack in the background of the castle :rotfl:

As I said in my last post, I love Jesus as much as the next person but this looks more like graffitti than a religious message. :hippie:

Shir Kahn
02-21-2008, 06:02 PM
I think a lot of people want this thread closed, on both sides of the argument, precisely because it IS an argument. One that nobody is going to end up winning. :hippie:

Tammysue5
02-21-2008, 06:04 PM
I have been reading this thread and getting a chuckle out of it I mean whats the big deal?!?... Before seeing the darling princess photo... now I can see the point of the annoying part of the skywriting. If it had been in the photos of my princess after her BBB... pics that she will save and have forever... well that would tick me off. I love Jesus as much as the next person :rotfl: but that photo shows me how much it takes away from pics ...

Okay Cathryn you converted another one... I just hope I dont end up in HELL-O
:rotfl2: :rotfl2:

In that particular photo it really takes away from the wonder and magic of the castle.


Praline, DH agreed w/you.... We are Christians but felt that it did take away from the BBB photo. The CMs were wonderful about it and did try to accomadate us. For this particular are I am sure this sky writing is a "thorn' ( in the Rose Garden ;) ) for the CMs trying to do BBB pics.

Mrs. Bee
02-21-2008, 06:04 PM
But see...he isn't trying to recruit anybody to anything! It is a simple message - Jesus loves you. A simple statement that is being taken way out of proportion! Geez - why is it that the mere mention of the name Jesus makes people freak out? :sad2:

but he doesn't just write jesus loves you. he writes things like "jesus loves babies" which is obviously telling people that he is pro-life. which is all find and dandy for him but as i mentioned before, i don't want to think about abortion while at disneyworld. and i don't want his views ruining the beautiful blue sky in my photos.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 06:05 PM
EDIT - still reading. What is wrong with muscle man mickey??

He creeps people out. :confused3

I dunno why - he's got a terrific body, he's a billionaire, owns several businesses - all very profitable, he has several foods made in his likeness, which all are quite tasty.

I really dont know. ;)

UrsulasShadow
02-21-2008, 06:07 PM
I think a lot of people want this thread closed, on both sides of the argument, precisely because it IS an argument. One that nobody is going to end up winning. :hippie:

I think that as long as the debate remains civil (which, for the MOST part, with some glaring exceptions, it has), the mods will allow it. If it seems to have run its course, and nobody is offering up anything new, and they feel it's causing too many hard feelings, I think they will close it. It should probably get moved to the CB, in any case.

Mrs. Bee
02-21-2008, 06:07 PM
No need to be rude...my question was valid. Just because you see someone doing something that you might not do or understand does not mean that is ALL that person does.

It would seem to me that if this individual expresses his love for the Lord to the extent that he would gladly be ridiculed for it, than it's a good bet that he would also serve in other ways as well.

the wasn't rudeness. that was humor. come on...it was funny!

UrsulasShadow
02-21-2008, 06:08 PM
He creeps people out. :confused3

I dunno why - he's got a terrific body, he's a billionaire, owns several businesses - all very profitable, he has several foods made in his likeness, which all are quite tasty.

I really dont know. ;)

It's the ears...

a Really Bad Egg
02-21-2008, 06:08 PM
I haven't thought about this guy in a long time. He used to show up at all kind of big sporting events during the 70's and 80's...

http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/stewart_hair.jpg

I hope no one is annoyed by him!

Well, apparently the law was...dude is in jail.

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a971107.html

:lmao:

Quest4fun
02-21-2008, 06:10 PM
He creeps people out. :confused3

I dunno why - he's got a terrific body, he's a billionaire, owns several businesses - all very profitable, he has several foods made in his likeness, which all are quite tasty.

I really dont know. ;)

I think people are offended by the tattoo. They still make some people uncomfortable even though they're pretty commonplace nowadays.

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 06:11 PM
It's the ears...

There's a Chinese saying....I think it's Chinese, lemme find it....

It is Chinese - but I cant find the exact wording. But its something about a man with thick, big ears - will be wealthy.

Man, if that aint the truth in this case. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 06:12 PM
I think people are offended by the tattoo. They still make some people uncomfortable even though they're pretty commonplace nowadays.

OMGosh!!! :rotfl: :lmao: :laughing: I didnt even NOTICE the Tattoo...

I think that might be Tom Brady's bod....lemme go look.

ETA - I dont think it is...just some random guy.

Robo
02-21-2008, 06:12 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/RoboWDW/Silly%20Stuff/Disney039.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/RoboWDW/Silly%20Stuff/Disney039CC.jpg

Mrs. Bee
02-21-2008, 06:13 PM
He creeps people out. :confused3

I dunno why - he's got a terrific body, he's a billionaire, owns several businesses - all very profitable, he has several foods made in his likeness, which all are quite tasty.

I really dont know. ;)

Haha. Niiiice.

carlyle688
02-21-2008, 06:14 PM
But its something about a man with thick, big ears - will be wealthy.

I totally thought that was going someplace else. :lmao:

UrsulasShadow
02-21-2008, 06:14 PM
Robo!

I thought you weren't going to participate in this thread!

Nice photoshopping, btw.

praline3001
02-21-2008, 06:15 PM
OKAY ... i did a little looking and found the link to the guy who does this website.... Cathryn... you can email him messages everyday :lmao:

I dont think the guy is a bad guy. It looks like he is just trying to spread the word.... I still don't like the princess pic though :rotfl: :rotfl:

anyway here is the link... as he does have a link you can email him popcorn::
http://www.turntojesus.net/

Mrs. Bee
02-21-2008, 06:15 PM
really though...that sky writer taught me a lot. he taught me that jesus loves baiies. so now, i've decided that i also love baiies. baiies are awesome.

and i wasn't there that day...but i have decided that i will min mith jesus. yep. i will min!!!

carlyle688
02-21-2008, 06:16 PM
Robo!

I thought you weren't going to participate in this thread!

It's a sickness. He can't help himself. :goodvibes

labattblue
02-21-2008, 06:16 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/RoboWDW/Silly%20Stuff/Disney039.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/RoboWDW/Silly%20Stuff/Disney039CC.jpg

:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2

PS Keep it up with your never ending talents and before you know it the Robo Fan Club will be out of control!!:laughing:

Tammysue5
02-21-2008, 06:19 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/RoboWDW/Silly%20Stuff/Disney039.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/RoboWDW/Silly%20Stuff/Disney039CC.jpg

Nice... I like that! .... I am not real good w/editing ....although DD in pic could probably help me... ;)

Truthfully, I was so busy admiring DD that I had not noticed it until CM pointed it out.

praline3001
02-21-2008, 06:19 PM
nice job Robo!!!!

How did you take it off without making it look smudged?!

I am not good at photoshopping :lmao:

I have a few shots where I would like to take stuff out of ..exp this shot:

http://photopost.wdwinfo.com/data/807/165122ppp1.jpg

I love this pic as my DD6 decided she wasn't waiting a second longer (daddy and I were discussing what we should do first while waiting for PPP to start) and took off on her own to the castle :lmao: :rotfl:

Now that big old elbow in the corner?!?! I would love to get rid of that elbow but I dont know how!!!!

turning this into a photoshop thread now :rotfl2:

a Really Bad Egg
02-21-2008, 06:19 PM
I think we have agreement?

The photoshopped sky looks great?

Can someone second that?

:thumbsup2

Shir Kahn
02-21-2008, 06:22 PM
It looks great, but not many people have that kind of photoshopping skill!

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 06:22 PM
really though...that sky writer taught me a lot. he taught me that jesus loves baiies. so now, i've decided that i also love baiies. baiies are awesome.

and i wasn't there that day...but i have decided that i will min mith jesus. yep. i will min!!!

LOL - Baiies... Min!!! MIN MIN MIN!! :lmao:

I totally thought that was going someplace else. :lmao:


EARS! Big thick EARS!

I think we have agreement?

The photoshopped sky looks great?

Can someone second that?

:thumbsup2

Awesomely done. :goodvibes

Considering Mr Skywriter is doing this all the time, Robo needs to stand over in the Rosegarden - have business cards made up, pass them out to the BBB'ers and Photoshop pics for everyone.

He could be making BANK! ROBO - are your ears big and thick?

Tammysue5
02-21-2008, 06:22 PM
I think we have agreement?

The photoshopped sky looks great?

Can someone second that?

:thumbsup2

:thumbsup2 I second that!!!

a Really Bad Egg
02-21-2008, 06:27 PM
:thumbsup2 I second that!!!

Yes, the sky looks better before the dude fires up the plane.

Decision goes to CathrynRose.

Case closed.

Who has next topic?

:lmao:

CathrynRose
02-21-2008, 06:29 PM
Yes, the sky looks better before the dude fires up the plane.

Decision goes to CathrynRose.

Case closed.

Who has next topic?

:lmao:


I think we've moved onto a new career move for Robo - and the deciding factor could be his ear thickness and size. He obviously has talent - but are his ears thick enough to be destined to become wealthy from this venture?