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windwalker
02-19-2008, 01:39 PM
If you are training to run or run/walk your first half or full marathon then John Bingham's "Marathoning for Mortals" is an excellent reference.
However if you are planning to walk your race then a better resourse is, Dave McGovern's "The Complete Guide to Walking a Marathon".
Dave is a walker and a long time coach, he is even a regional coach for the Team in Training. He trains everybody from budding Olympic hopefulls to beginning walkers. His exercises and advice are geared toward someone who has choosen to be a walker instead of a runner.
John is primarily a runner, so his books are written toward becoming an eventual runner.
Walking Panda:hippie:
SamSam
02-19-2008, 01:45 PM
Thanks for the tip. I'm almost finished with MfM, but will check out Dave McGovern's book.
windwalker
02-19-2008, 05:49 PM
Thanks for the tip. I'm almost finished with MfM, but will check out Dave McGovern's book.
You can order it online. It really puts things in perspective better for a walker than the other marathon books.
A basic is that anyone can walk a marathon, everyone can't run a marathon. Most people can take off walking and go 26 miles because most of us have developed walking muscles. You would be sore the next day but you could do it.
Walking Panda:hippie:
SamSam
02-19-2008, 05:59 PM
Just ordered it. Wahoo!!! More reading material. Hopefully all this reading will improve my walking.:goodvibes
windwalker
02-19-2008, 06:08 PM
Just ordered it. Wahoo!!! More reading material. Hopefully all this reading will improve my walking.:goodvibes
For what it's worth: My achillies injury made running to painfull so I decided to walk to stay in shape. I ordered Dave's book and taught myself to racewalk, using the advice from the book. Within the year I finished 3rd at State competition and then the next year, 8th at the National Senior Olympics. Those races are judged on technique as well as speed. So I guess the information in the book is solid.
Walking Panda:hippie:
ms.mightyduck
02-19-2008, 06:13 PM
Coach Panda, do you think you should be running a coaching clinic for us new racewalkers? Of course, it would have to be before the race season starts.... And in someplace where we could be walking outside and not on the dreadbeast.... I'm thinking maybe a 4-week clinic on a Caribbean island during the nastiness of winter?
Now to convince dh that this "training clinic" is vital to my health.... ;) :rotfl:
Steffwalks
02-19-2008, 06:52 PM
I'm in coach Panda and duckie...I am thinking Grand Caymon? Jamaica? We could rent a house .... Of course, the last time I was in Jamaica a bucket of KFC was $100! :lmao: That's about $10 US Greenbacks!
I read Dave McGovern's Racewalk book. It took me a LOOOOOOOOONG time to figure out how to get all my parts doing what they are supposed to, to racewalk, but I broke the 15 mpm barrier this morning. I walked 14:50. Last year at this time I thought that any minute per mile was fantastic if it started with 19...18 was dessert!
ms.mightyduck
02-19-2008, 07:07 PM
Steff--
Sounds like a great idea! I've never been to a Caribbean island, so I'm in for whatever location will lead to the best, uh, training.... :rolleyes1
And way to go on the pace! I'll have to pick up a copy of that book!
windwalker
02-19-2008, 07:20 PM
Steff--
Sounds like a great idea! I've never been to a Caribbean island, so I'm in for whatever location will lead to the best, uh, training.... :rolleyes1
And way to go on the pace! I'll have to pick up a copy of that book!
Here is a link to his web site
http://www.parkracewalkers.us/
Actually that is a link to the NYC racewalking club, go to links and you can get to Dave's
Walking Pnada:hippie:
ms.mightyduck
02-19-2008, 07:23 PM
Thanks, Panda!
Steff, I don't think we've persuaded Panda to teach our clinic on a Caribbean island...
windwalker
02-19-2008, 07:26 PM
Thanks, Panda!
Steff, I don't think we've persuaded Panda to teach our clinic on a Caribbean island...
If you can't convince your hubby to do 2 Disney trips, there isn't a cow tipping chance of him blessing a week at Sandals.
Realistic Panda:hippie:
ms.mightyduck
02-19-2008, 07:32 PM
If you can't convince your hubby to do 2 Disney trips, there isn't a cow tipping chance of him blessing a week at Sandals.
Realistic Panda:hippie:
A week? We were going for a month! A month of VERY IMPORTANT TRAINING. :rolleyes1 ;)
(Sorry, I hate this weather here. I'm going stir crazy. And I suspect that dh would not be happy if I quit my job to pursue walking fast as a vocation....)
windwalker
02-19-2008, 07:42 PM
A week? We were going for a month! A month of VERY IMPORTANT TRAINING. :rolleyes1 ;)
(Sorry, I hate this weather here. I'm going stir crazy. And I suspect that dh would not be happy if I quit my job to pursue walking fast as a vocation....)
Well it is easier to get forgiveness than permission, so I'll pack.
Traveling Panda:hippie:
ms.mightyduck
02-19-2008, 07:45 PM
Well it is easier to get forgiveness than permission, so I'll pack.
Traveling Panda:hippie:
Now that's thinking! :)
And it wasn't that dh said no to two Disney trips. It was that we spent 20 days in WDW last year. We don't own DVC! I just was trying to move in (we are negotiating the Beach Club as a retirement home--we retire in 19 years, so we have to get thinking about these things!).
windwalker
02-19-2008, 07:54 PM
Now that's thinking! :)
And it wasn't that dh said no to two Disney trips. It was that we spent 20 days in WDW last year. We don't own DVC! I just was trying to move in (we are negotiating the Beach Club as a retirement home--we retire in 19 years, so we have to get thinking about these things!).
We retire in 10 years. We spent 20 days at Disney last year and 11 already this year. Next is the ToT then the Jan 09 trip. We had some medical expences so we had to cut out the Minnie trip.
Disney Addicted Panda:hippie:
ms.mightyduck
02-19-2008, 07:57 PM
Don't you just hate it when life gets in the way of fun?
Sorry about your medical issues. :(
I was hoping to get to ToT because dh has never been to Food and Wine. We'll see what the summer brings!
Steffwalks
02-19-2008, 08:00 PM
Duckie, you know it is true that a Carnival cruise is cheaper than a nursing home, with better food! Just get on board and stay there!
I don't know that WDW, is though.....:rotfl2:
Grand Cayman Island has a lovely 7 mile beach..... Beaches are great for tan...uh, I mean walking (yea, that's it...walking) It's a tad more expensive than Jamaica though. We (DH and I) went to Hard Rock Cafe and had two drinks and a burger with fries, each. Only cost us $120 US to leave, of course we DID have souvenir glasses...I think. :confused3
twoWDWfools
02-19-2008, 09:57 PM
I'm nearly finished with MfM as well and have just ordered this one since I plan on walking not running.
Thanks for the info!
Oh, and I vote for someplace in the Carribean for training camp. DH will be right along with me after the winter we're currently having. :-)
SamSam
02-19-2008, 11:24 PM
I'm ready for any race/walk training in a warm climate! I'm intriqued by the race/walking because I'm becoming more sure that I'm a walker and not a runner.
I think somewhere on the Mexican coast might be affordable for a training camp. :) Maybe somewhere about 80 miles south of CanCun. :)
Lynn G
02-20-2008, 10:14 AM
Sounds good to me too! I think Scott would also like the idea, and we could add some SCUBA diving to the mix.
twoWDWfools
02-20-2008, 01:34 PM
Sounds good to me too! I think Scott would also like the idea, and we could add some SCUBA diving to the mix.
I believe SCUBA counts as cross training.
Steffwalks
02-20-2008, 02:12 PM
I like combining the racewalk school with a scuba school! You will have to teach me how to scuba dive, but at least I know what SCUBA stands for! See answer at the bottom of the page.
Self contained underwater breathing apparatus!
WDWFAN9
02-21-2008, 04:07 PM
Well darn! I checked out Dave's website and got excited because he is doing a clinic about 35 minutes from home....until I realized it is the same weekend Jim and I leave for the Bingham Alaskan cruise! Of all the potential weekends, it lands on one we have a commitment for. I would have definitely checked out his clinic as I am determined to improve me speed so that I don't have to live in fear of the sweepers.
windwalker
02-21-2008, 04:12 PM
Well darn! I checked out Dave's website and got excited because he is doing a clinic about 35 minutes from home....until I realized it is the same weekend Jim and I leave for the Bingham Alaskan cruise! Of all the potential weekends, it lands on one we have a commitment for. I would have definitely checked out his clinic as I am determined to improve me speed so that I don't have to live in fear of the sweepers.
I would love to take a clinic also. He is based out of Orlanda, he does week loong camps there with lodging and food provided. Several of the walkers from the walking site went there to train with him and said it was super. He conducts the training at the US Olympic training center and they get real high tech with it. Like putting you on the treadmill and taking blood samples to find your optimum training range.
I'm self taught and I'm sure I could pick up some good refinements from a professional training camp like that.
Walking Panda:hippie:
DisneyWalkerGirl
02-22-2008, 05:29 PM
Dave - did you see that Dave McGovern is doing a weekend session in Louisville in Sept? I am wondering if I should signing up for the one in Columbus the first weekend of Aug :confused3 The $175 price is a lot of local race entries....I am torn - I wonder how many PB & J lunches at work this is worth :rotfl:
I've never really been about speed, but I wonder 1) is a better technique (okay - I have no technique at all) would help with preventing injury and 2) just once what would be like not to be behind our local Senior Olympian Jack Shuter? :goodvibes
Any thoughts?
windwalker
02-22-2008, 11:09 PM
Dave - did you see that Dave McGovern is doing a weekend session in Louisville in Sept? I am wondering if I should signing up for the one in Columbus the first weekend of Aug :confused3 The $175 price is a lot of local race entries....I am torn - I wonder how many PB & J lunches at work this is worth :rotfl:
I've never really been about speed, but I wonder 1) is a better technique (okay - I have no technique at all) would help with preventing injury and 2) just once what would be like not to be behind our local Senior Olympian Jack Shuter? :goodvibes
Any thoughts?
We need to see if we can have a clinic for the WISH Walkers at Orlando during an Event trip, Kill two birds so to speak.
When did your friend Jack go to the Senior Olympics? I represented Kentucky last year at the Senior Olympics, 55 to 59 age group.
Walking Panda:hippie:
SamSam
02-23-2008, 01:01 AM
We need to see if we can have a clinic for the WISH Walkers at Orlando during an Event trip, Kill two birds so to speak.
When did your friend Jack go to the Senior Olympics? I represented Kentucky last year at the Senior Olympics, 55 to 59 age group.
Walking Panda:hippie:
Sounds great! How about during the Minnie 15K.......:rolleyes1 hmmm, just happen's to be the one I will be at.
DisneyWalkerGirl
02-23-2008, 10:29 AM
When did your friend Jack go to the Senior Olympics? I represented Kentucky last year at the Senior Olympics, 55 to 59 age group.
Walking Panda:hippie:
Jack was in Lousiville, but he is in his late 70s (I think 77-78), so he wouldn't have been in your groups. Here are his stats:
NATIONAL SENIOR OLYMPICS 1500M
75-79M Jack Shuter 10:21 9th AG
NATIONAL SENIOR OLYMPICS 5K
75-79M Jack Shuter 39:34 10th AG
Jack is 30 years older than I am and his Sr Olympics time for the 5k is stll almost 2 minutes faster than my best 5k time.
I haven't met them yet, but 2 women from our local club also did very well in Louisville:
NATIONAL SENIOR OLYMPICS 1500M
55-59W Joyce Prohaska 8:46 1st AG
Donna Graham 8:56 2nd AG
NATIONAL SENIOR OLYMPICS 5K
55-59W Joyce Prohaska 31:10 1st AG
Donna Graham 31:28 2nd AG
I figure if I start now, I may be ready in a few years to see if I could try to qualify. It is one of those goals I am keeping close to my vest....
Kathy
windwalker
02-23-2008, 11:27 AM
Jack was in Lousiville, but he is in his late 70s (I think 77-78), so he wouldn't have been in your groups. Here are his stats:
NATIONAL SENIOR OLYMPICS 1500M
75-79M Jack Shuter 10:21 9th AG
NATIONAL SENIOR OLYMPICS 5K
75-79M Jack Shuter 39:34 10th AG
Jack is 30 years older than I am and his Sr Olympics time for the 5k is stll almost 2 minutes faster than my best 5k time.
I haven't met them yet, but 2 women from our local club also did very well in Louisville:
NATIONAL SENIOR OLYMPICS 1500M
55-59W Joyce Prohaska 8:46 1st AG
Donna Graham 8:56 2nd AG
NATIONAL SENIOR OLYMPICS 5K
55-59W Joyce Prohaska 31:10 1st AG
Donna Graham 31:28 2nd AG
I figure if I start now, I may be ready in a few years to see if I could try to qualify. It is one of those goals I am keeping close to my vest....
Kathy
Kathy, in Louisville:
1500m 9:57 9th overall AG
5K 35:10 8th overall AG
This kind of competition is tough because your judged on your technique as well as your speed. Since I'm self taught I was more worried about being disqualified for form than speed. As it turned out I was fine on technique but 4 in my race were disqualified.
Walking Panda:hippie:
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