Ever wanted to dine in a little peace?

[OKW Mom]

I know we are at Disney, I know it is Child Central. I love the giggles of the children as the characters swing by, we raised 3 who were excellent TS diners.

The sad thing is any one with a credit card or meal plan can occupy space in many of the most un-mannerly ways.

I do not need Mary Poppins behavior, I'd just like to sit in the Turf Club dining room and have a quiet meal that equaled the food we ordered. We had great service, excellent food and wine and horrid table neighbors.

The young couple rolled in with a toddler and infant. The toddler was encouraged by his father to bang the large knife and fork on the table top, the mother so giddy from heatstroke (?) she giggled and kept it going. for 45 minutes. The knifes in this place are humongous! The forks had 3 long sharp tines and the boy was never stopped from slamming them up and down.

That sound was met with the party of 4 across the path, whose 2 boys began to run in circles around their parents table. The Dad was soaking wet with sweat (Sept.) and wearing cotton shirt and loose knit shorts. I had hoped for long table clothes after "the show" I got as he dwarfed the chair itself. The Mom was so fed up she just kept eating, ignoring the other 3.

The party next to us was in their 50's with a child with severe CP. He was getting agitated by the children and you could see the noise was getting to him. The parents were doing everything to calm him and shortened their meal.

I really saw no way for management to enforce any level of decibles, as the room stated it was non-smoking - not non-screaming.

I know the DDP brought alot of families who did not previously eat in the TS restaurants into these dining areas. They paid for it and they are using it. It is an excellent way for children to grow up with white cloth table manners that will serve them in their professional life.

I just wish the dining rooms were better separated for adult parties to have a meal with conversation.

This may all be a moot point if the 2008 DDP loses its luster and the TS rooms return to quieter times.

In Sept. we tried eating early (Turf Club 1st reservation - pandemonium within that hour). We tried eating late (EPCOT Biergarten - small children running between buffet and tables while parents drank....)

Every family has a bad meal every now and then, it would feel special if WDW took that into consideration when planning their seating areas, etc.

With their experience they should really know how to accomplish this!

[Master Mason]

I know we are at Disney, I know it is Child Central. I love the giggles of the children as the characters swing by, we raised 3 who were excellent TS diners.

The sad thing is any one with a credit card or meal plan can occupy space in many of the most un-mannerly ways.

I do not need Mary Poppins behavior, I'd just like to sit in the Turf Club dining room and have a quiet meal that equaled the food we ordered. We had great service, excellent food and wine and horrid table neighbors.

The young couple rolled in with a toddler and infant. The toddler was encouraged by his father to bang the large knife and fork on the table top, the mother so giddy from heatstroke (?) she giggled and kept it going. for 45 minutes. The knifes in this place are humongous! The forks had 3 long sharp tines and the boy was never stopped from slamming them up and down.

That sound was met with the party of 4 across the path, whose 2 boys began to run in circles around their parents table. The Dad was soaking wet with sweat (Sept.) and wearing cotton shirt and loose knit shorts. I had hoped for long table clothes after "the show" I got as he dwarfed the chair itself. The Mom was so fed up she just kept eating, ignoring the other 3.

The party next to us was in their 50's with a child with severe CP. He was getting agitated by the children and you could see the noise was getting to him. The parents were doing everything to calm him and shortened their meal.

I really saw no way for management to enforce any level of decibles, as the room stated it was non-smoking - not non-screaming.

I know the DDP brought alot of families who did not previously eat in the TS restaurants into these dining areas. They paid for it and they are using it. It is an excellent way for children to grow up with white cloth table manners that will serve them in their professional life.

I just wish the dining rooms were better separated for adult parties to have a meal with conversation.

This may all be a moot point if the 2008 DDP loses its luster and the TS rooms return to quieter times.

In Sept. we tried eating early (Turf Club 1st reservation - pandemonium within that hour). We tried eating late (EPCOT Biergarten - small children running between buffet and tables while parents drank....)

Every family has a bad meal every now and then, it would feel special if WDW took that into consideration when planning their seating areas, etc.

With their experience they should really know how to accomplish this!

Say something. I was eating at the Blue Bayou in DL, and this large family was seated next to us, one of the kids was playing their iPod so loudly that I could hear it at my table. I simply asked the waiter, if I really had to listen to that noise for my entire meal. Pretty quickly one of the managers went over and spoke to the dad, the ipod was turned down. I got a few nasty looks, but I got to eat my meal in peace.

[toocherie]

I know we are at Disney, I know it is Child Central. I love the giggles of the children as the characters swing by, we raised 3 who were excellent TS diners.

The sad thing is any one with a credit card or meal plan can occupy space in many of the most un-mannerly ways.

I do not need Mary Poppins behavior, I'd just like to sit in the Turf Club dining room and have a quiet meal that equaled the food we ordered. We had great service, excellent food and wine and horrid table neighbors.

The young couple rolled in with a toddler and infant. The toddler was encouraged by his father to bang the large knife and fork on the table top, the mother so giddy from heatstroke (?) she giggled and kept it going. for 45 minutes. The knifes in this place are humongous! The forks had 3 long sharp tines and the boy was never stopped from slamming them up and down.

That sound was met with the party of 4 across the path, whose 2 boys began to run in circles around their parents table. The Dad was soaking wet with sweat (Sept.) and wearing cotton shirt and loose knit shorts. I had hoped for long table clothes after "the show" I got as he dwarfed the chair itself. The Mom was so fed up she just kept eating, ignoring the other 3.

The party next to us was in their 50's with a child with severe CP. He was getting agitated by the children and you could see the noise was getting to him. The parents were doing everything to calm him and shortened their meal.

I really saw no way for management to enforce any level of decibles, as the room stated it was non-smoking - not non-screaming.

I know the DDP brought alot of families who did not previously eat in the TS restaurants into these dining areas. They paid for it and they are using it. It is an excellent way for children to grow up with white cloth table manners that will serve them in their professional life.

I just wish the dining rooms were better separated for adult parties to have a meal with conversation.



I have to agree with you--while it's a joy to see the smiles on faces of children at DL, and while I understand that there are going to be times when a child is going to have a meltdown and there's nothing the parent can do in the moment to stop it, the parents need to teach the children manners and that includes not disturbing other people. A few years ago I was at a California Pizza Kitchen--the parents were enjoying their dessert while their four year old ran around crazily and at one point was lying on the floor in the aisle in the way of servers and patrons--right next to our table. (Yuck--wouldn't want a child of mine on the floor!) I asked the server whether there wasn't something they could do and was told that they couldn't say anything unless the child was in danger -- I guess getting tripped over by a server carrying a heavy load of hot food wouldn't be dangerous enough!

[spiceycat]

when you arrive at the restuarant - tell the CM that seats you - you would like a seat in the adult section.

now some don't have an adult section. but you may be surprised with others.

avoid character meals.

the old Yacht Club is surpose to be good too - got a new name? - Captain Grill.

[OKW Mom]

We will be more up front with the host.

Casual conversation with a server sometimes misses the mark.

Thank-you for acknowledging I have not lost my mind and that enjoyable adult hours can be out there at WDW.

[sneezy1956]

I love kids dearly and would never stop a parent from bringing kids to any restaurant. And I would never ever want any parent no matter what is going on not to come to a restaurant. But, it would be nice if later in the evening after say 9:00 that they had an adult only area.

Don't get me wrong I know kids have melt downs I've raised 3 and have 2 grandkids but it would be nice if later in the evening there were some quiet areas.

[OKW Mom]

I love kids dearly and would never stop a parent from bringing kids to any restaurant. And I would never ever want any parent no matter what is going on not to come to a restaurant. But, it would be nice if later in the evening after say 9:00 that they had an adult only area.

Don't get me wrong I know kids have melt downs I've raised 3 and have 2 grandkids but it would be nice if later in the evening there were some quiet areas.

When I mentioned this at another discussion board I was nearly beaten to death.

They can build rooms and dividers that could insulate sound. Do they realize the adults would spend more $$ if they were comfortable dining?

Aha, Disney has to be approached that they can make more $$ if they provide this service. You can bet it will be on my comment card!

[spiceycat]

the cm's that seat are not always thinking.

you would be surprised how many times as a solo - I was seated next to or across from a single male. Now at my age that is getting silly.

they think they are helping.....

just explain that you want as far from guests with children as possible.

the problem is that group come in all shapes. Sometimes it is necessary to put a group with children in a most adult area - just because they need that size table and it is the only one left.

besides you can also take the approach - thank goodness once I leave this restuarant - leaving behind those loudy and rude children - their parent can't ever leave them.

of course some people think it is the parents fault - there is a lady (and I mean a lady) here at work who will disagree. Her son was raised correctly - they went to church he definitely understood what right and wrong was - then as a teen he got involved with the wrong crowd. they tried to stop it. had some of his friends arrested. but that only seem to increase his want of these friends. so not only did he end his life as a drug addict he was murdered too.

some things you can control - but your children's life you can't. You have to hope and pray that they turn out to be good citizens.

[ForTheLoveofDisney]

. . . . of course some people think it is the parents fault - there is a lady (and I mean a lady) here at work who will disagree. Her son was raised correctly - they went to church he definitely understood what right and wrong was - then as a teen he got involved with the wrong crowd. they tried to stop it. had some of his friends arrested. but that only seem to increase his want of these friends. so not only did he end his life as a drug addict he was murdered too.

some things you can control - but your children's life you can't. You have to hope and pray that they turn out to be good citizens. I know this is a little off topic, and certainly not directed at spiceycat but rather just making a comment about the parents fault thing that spiceycat mentioned. I will most certainly agree that how teens into adults turn out (to a degree) is not the parents fault if they raised the child right, as appears to be in this lady's case. After all, I was raised right to have good manners, to know how to behave in a resturaunt and in church and in public and to just have an overall great idea of what was right and what was wrong. There was a time in my teens and even into my early 20's that I found the wrong crowd. There was not much my parents' could have done about it and I chose to do the things I did. I know several others where this is the case as well. So, no in that instance it is not the parent's fault.

However, with that being said, when the child is 2, 3, 4, 5 up to say 10 and they're misbehaving and just being undisciplined brats then yes, most of the time it is the parents' fault. There is NO excuse for allowing your child to lie in the middle of the floor in a resturant while you finish off dessert. There is NO excuse to allow a child to scream just to hear himself scream and bang on the table and be loud (barring the child is perfectly healthy with no mental issues) and run around disturbing and disrupting other people in public. It is clearly the parent's fault for not parenting that small child.

OK, :goodvibes now we may return to our regularly scheduled thread.

OP, I agree, there needs to be adult only sections and I would pay more for the privelage. We don't have kids and there is a reason for it. I like kids and I love my nieces and nephews but I don't want to put up with them all the time and I certainly don't want to put up someone else's misbehaving child. I mean there could be a chance that the family we're being seated next to will have a very well behaved child who's a joy to be around but do I really want to take that chance? :scared:

[PirateSusan]

I am not a stick in the mud, but I am also all for children being controlled during dinner. I also don't think children should be allowed in the hot tubs. When we get back late from the parks and DH and I want to relax, the hot tub is swarmed by kids!

[kab407]

WOW! I am not alone.:worship: :worship: :worship:

I do like kids, just not enough to have ever wanted my own. I adore my neice and nephews. But with that said, when I go out to dinner, I do not want to be seated to the family area. I have refused tables where there are a group of toddlers next to it. I have asked to be seated in the "child free zone". Do I get nasty looks? You bet. I simply want to enjoy my meal, my company or if I am dining alone, chillout with out hearing little Johnny or Mary banging silverware, throwing buttered noodles or going into a tantrum. I realize that kids will be kids, but sometime parents need to step up to the plate and be the parent.

[zima-cheryl]

but sometime parents need to step up to the plate and be the parent.


AMEN!!!!

[Peepster]

OMG! There ARE people who think my thoughts! I've even suggested to Guest Relations at Disney that there are some of us who would pay big bucks to have just one or two on property meals without some child crawling under our table! Many, many parents teach their children manners. The ones who do not, however, are horrid.

The end to our dining in the Castle (anyone remember when they had just a "normal" meal for dinner? With good food, butter shaped like Cindy's coach, etc......:sad:) came the night that a father and mother spent the entire meal engulfed in conversation with each other, never interacting with their children, while the kids were running around their table (and some of ours) in circles...I swear I am NOT making this up...while the father held food out on a fork, yes a fork, and the kids would grab the food off of it as they ran by!

I'm probably a sandwich short of a picnic here, but I'm beginning to think that perhaps, by no longer voicing disapproval of bad behavior (not just by children) we are giving tacit approval of it? What would happen (besides having a gun or two pulled on us or, of course, being continually saluted by an interior digit) if we actually politely requested someone stop offensive behavior? Would anyone here actually do it, or do you already?

[toocherie]

I'm probably a sandwich short of a picnic here, but I'm beginning to think that perhaps, by no longer voicing disapproval of bad behavior (not just by children) we are giving tacit approval of it? What would happen (besides having a gun or two pulled on us or, of course, being continually saluted by an interior digit) if we actually politely requested someone stop offensive behavior? Would anyone here actually do it, or do you already?

I have to admit I'm a wimp and the most I do is give the "look"--sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And not to transfer the responsibility to Disney or the restaurant owner (as the case may be) I feel that I, as a customer, deserve to have the owner exert some control over their establishment and protect my right to enjoy my meal in peace as much as the next guy. If someone's kids were running riot around my table (and the pulling food off the fork thing is just incredible) I would ask my server, and then the manager, to do something about it. Not sure what I would do if they didn't--in the CPK case the guy I was with didn't want to make an issue, so I backed off. Otherwise I would have probably asked for the manager.

I guess I would either ask to be moved or (for something like the castle experience) be refunded some or all of my meal cost because I would certainly not be getting the benefit of what I paid for.

Sadly, parents like you describe get away with this because polite people do not want to make a scene. They will continue to run roughshod over the polite people until there are consequences for their actions (or lack of action)--I think in this circumstance it should really be up to Disney (or any other restaurant owner) to establish a certain level of decorum in its dining establishments. I've certainly seen drunk and obnoxious people removed from premises; I would not think there should be a different standard for children who are interfering with the enjoyment of an experience by other families and whose parents are unable or unwilling to exert control--especially at the price point of some of these meals!

[rmom50]

High Five! :thumbsup2 Here is what is working for me lately....I look into the child's eyes and say NO. And so far....every single child got it. Don't forget they are testing us ALL THE TIME. ;) Mine are teenagers - actually 20 & 15, and I don't believe they ever acted like that. Not in my presence anyhow. Just say no. Takes a village. :)

[toocherie]

High Five! :thumbsup2 Here is what is working for me lately....I look into the child's eyes and say NO. And so far....every single child got it. Don't forget they are testing us ALL THE TIME. ;) Mine are teenagers - actually 20 & 15, and I don't believe they ever acted like that. Not in my presence anyhow. Just say no. Takes a village. :)

Just curious--you actually tell other people's kids "no"? (If you do--you're my new hero!)

I'm pretty assertive but I don't know if I would have the guts to do that . . . .

[Zeebs]

AS parents of 2 small children (now I bet you are sitting there thinking here we go) I totally agree that it would be great if there were sections where adults are seated together.

Now if I could just get them to seat me there and my two kids in the family section :lmao:

This would allow families to eat in nice places without the worry of disturbing someone elses dinner. And allowing children the opportunity to learn how to behave and eat in public. I have reasonably behaved children well considering they are only 3 months and 2 but as with all kids they do sometime hit the roof over something you just didn't see coming.

Cullen likes to bang his cutlery (and it gets taken off him which sometimes can produce a tantrum hopefully after a few times of them being taken from him he will learn and not do it who knows however :confused3

I am always worried when dining out that I will disturb someone else and it does make the trip a little less enjoyable that an the heartburn from eating so fast.

OKW Mom - I saw a few near death experiences on a discussion where someone suggested an adult only place on a plane so I can beleive it happened over this subject. (BTW I agreed with this as well)

I will say this while I agree with just about everything everyone has said on this subject parenting is easier said than done (just ask the Mum who had a whole stack of things her children weren't going to do or have and now do or have, you learn not to sweat the small stuff) and my parenting style may not be up to others standards and much higher than someone elses. The problem here is if we discipline our children we open ourselves up to comments on how harsh we are, give the kid a break he is at disney, I hate seeing parents yelling, etc at Disney bla bla bla or if we don't discipline we open ourselves up to new comments or there is not discipline in the world today etc.

Now back on topic of the adults section only problem I see is if

1. space runs out in section you want to be in.
2. like smoking and no smoking section it doesn't make any difference if it just an invisible line you are sat next to the smoke/noise still makes its way to you.

Thanks Kirsten

[Hixski]

When I mentioned this at another discussion board I was nearly beaten to death.

They can build rooms and dividers that could insulate sound. Do they realize the adults would spend more $$ if they were comfortable dining?

Aha, Disney has to be approached that they can make more $$ if they provide this service. You can bet it will be on my comment card!

I have been nearly beaten to death too for commenting on this subject. I was nice and polite and still I was a child hater, should vacation somewhere else, etc, etc. Apparently on that thread it was ok for parents to want some quiet time but someone without children were just child haters. At least on this board everyone is more reasonable.

It gets frustrating to watch little Poindexter do a back flip off his dinner chair and then scream bloody murder when he gets hurt. Meanwhile "those" parents are still chatting away over a bottle of Chardonnay.:rolleyes1

[teacup317]

I'm going to chime in here too, now while the old adage "a child should be seen and not heard" would be a bit much at Disney, maybe just a little bit of the "not heard" could come into play when in restaurants. Food for thought!;)

[OKW Mom]

Yes- when ours were toddler and early school age there were times when I wanted to be silly to get them to do what I wanted....they never even knew Mom was getting them to do what Mom wanted them to do. People have stared at me for skipping through open areas etc.

We were asked to leave an historic Episcopal church in Williamsburg!
Our 2 yr old was used to greeting people at our church at the Narthex door.
I did not want to leave him at a strange church nursery, so we sat at the last pew.
Before Mass, as people came in he smiled, waved and said "Hi!". Regular parishners did not know us and were fairly reserved-when Bill got no answered he turned up the volumn "HI!". :angel:
After about 3 incidences that we were asked to leave. Mass had not even started and we were whisked out the door. :confused3
I laugh about this now, at the age of 22 if he ever gets asked to leave a bar or a restaurant at least he can say he has been asked to leave better places!! :rotfl:

AS parents of 2 small children (now I bet you are sitting there thinking here we go) I totally agree that it would be great if there were sections where adults are seated together.

Now if I could just get them to seat me there and my two kids in the family section :lmao:

This would allow families to eat in nice places without the worry of disturbing someone elses dinner. And allowing children the opportunity to learn how to behave and eat in public. I have reasonably behaved children well considering they are only 3 months and 2 but as with all kids they do sometime hit the roof over something you just didn't see coming.

Cullen likes to bang his cutlery (and it gets taken off him which sometimes can produce a tantrum hopefully after a few times of them being taken from him he will learn and not do it who knows however :confused3

I am always worried when dining out that I will disturb someone else and it does make the trip a little less enjoyable that an the heartburn from eating so fast.

OKW Mom - I saw a few near death experiences on a discussion where someone suggested an adult only place on a plane so I can beleive it happened over this subject. (BTW I agreed with this as well)

I will say this while I agree with just about everything everyone has said on this subject parenting is easier said than done (just ask the Mum who had a whole stack of things her children weren't going to do or have and now do or have, you learn not to sweat the small stuff) and my parenting style may not be up to others standards and much higher than someone elses. The problem here is if we discipline our children we open ourselves up to comments on how harsh we are, give the kid a break he is at disney, I hate seeing parents yelling, etc at Disney bla bla bla or if we don't discipline we open ourselves up to new comments or there is not discipline in the world today etc.

Now back on topic of the adults section only problem I see is if

1. space runs out in section you want to be in.
2. like smoking and no smoking section it doesn't make any difference if it just an invisible line you are sat next to the smoke/noise still makes its way to you.

Thanks Kirsten

[OKW Mom]

I was raised with "you'll poke your eye out", "your face will freeze like that", "children are starving in China". :rotfl2:

Good old Catholic guilt made me the disciplinarian I am today.

When they bang those big heavy knives and forks up and down I am just so afraid they will poke their eyes out!!!!! It may have a different center of balance from their home cutlery... OMG, I am a worrier!


I have been nearly beaten to death too for commenting on this subject. I was nice and polite and still I was a child hater, should vacation somewhere else, etc, etc. Apparently on that thread it was ok for parents to want some quiet time but someone without children were just child haters. At least on this board everyone is more reasonable.

It gets frustrating to watch little Poindexter do a back flip off his dinner chair and then scream bloody murder when he gets hurt. Meanwhile "those" parents are still chatting away over a bottle of Chardonnay.:rolleyes1

[OKW Mom]

We had not been to disney in 5 years (lost jobs, cancer, move across country).
We got to OKW main hottub and about 6 pm we wanted to sit and count our blessings peacefully.
A lovely over surgically enhanced 30something in a red bikini arrived and sat silently across from us. Within 3 minutes, 3 in swim diapers and one 9yr old appeared and howled that they wanted to jump in. :dance3:
The sign could not be any clearer about age restriction-I was thunderstruck that this woman would put the 4 of them in the hot tub. :mad:
After a few minutes of tantrums because the water was hot (Ya think?) they took up all the space on the steps and fussed at each other. :sad2:
We bailed. We went back to room and filled the spa tub in our 2BR unit and turned on the radio! :hug:

I am not a stick in the mud, but I am also all for children being controlled during dinner. I also don't think children should be allowed in the hot tubs. When we get back late from the parks and DH and I want to relax, the hot tub is swarmed by kids!

[OKW Mom]

So many people have just commented on parents stepping up to the plate and being parents.

We raised 3 boys and 1 girl (30, 22, 19). The 30 year old is now constantly commenting on how well his childhood prepared him for Law School. My discourse and anecdotal discipline taught him some skills he won contests with in Law school. :rotfl: And I just wanted him to behave!

I am always happy to see a village raise their expectations and expect children to rise to the occasion.

High Five! :thumbsup2 Here is what is working for me lately....I look into the child's eyes and say NO. And so far....every single child got it. Don't forget they are testing us ALL THE TIME. ;) Mine are teenagers - actually 20 & 15, and I don't believe they ever acted like that. Not in my presence anyhow. Just say no. Takes a village. :)

[rmom50]

Just curious--you actually tell other people's kids "no"? (If you do--you're my new hero!)

I'm pretty assertive but I don't know if I would have the guts to do that . . . .


Yes indeed-ee-do. Here's the secret....it's an eye contact and a whisper. The kid knows they are being obnoxious. Trust me on this...they know it. Kids are so smart. As most of you have commented, the parents aren't paying attention. I have never had a parent even react to my saying "no" to their child, but the kid reacts immediately. Try it. Used it successfully just this week in my dentist's office. :laughing:

[kab407]

Just curious--you actually tell other people's kids "no"? (If you do--you're my new hero!)

I'm pretty assertive but I don't know if I would have the guts to do that . . . .

I have only done it once. I was having breakfast with a couple of friends at a local diner. The child at the table next to ours decided to start doing laps around our table. At about the sixth lap, I looked at her and firmly said, "sit down". She froze for a second and them went back to her seat. Her mom shot me a dirty look, but I didn't care. Our fear was someone was going to fall or have a tray of food dropped on them.

I was raised with "you'll poke your eye out", "your face will freeze like that", "children are starving in China". :rotfl2:

Good old Catholic guilt made me the disciplinarian I am today.

They must teach this is Catholic Mothering 101. My Mom said the exact same things to us. We all turned out OK by being told "no" and God forbid, having our bottom swatted, when necessary.

[Bethany]

While I do agree 100% with the idea of an adults only section in restaurants, and I also agree that parents need to step up to the plate and teach their children some manners and appropriate behavior (I'm one of those who DOES this!) there are times when a tantrum can just appear out of NOWHERE. This has nothing to do with the how well the person is parenting.. what matters is how the parent reacts to the situation. Personally, if one of mine has ever started to disrupt the peace, I will remove them from the situation. Period, end of story. We will go someplace to have a talk and cool down, return to the table to try again. This usually works.

About the ones who will tell a child "No" that is not their's... kudos to you for being so bold. Children respond to strangers telling them "No" because they are afraid or surprised. My child-less friend boasts about how her long time boyfriend can get their nephews to behave better than their parents do. That's because the children have a completely different dynamic with him (as do you with other people's children). Children are comfortable with their parents, and sometimes are oblivious to their parents even saying "No" because they hear it from them ALL THE TIME. Unfortunately a lot of parents do not enforce the rules, if there are any, so "No" from them means nothing to the child. From a stranger though.. the shock value is what gets them to comply.

[winterman]

Why is it that the Disney Cruise ships have adult only restaurants, but in all of WDW there isn't a single one?

:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

I say there should be (at least) one restaurant for adults only.

Nice to have some quiet and the option of conversation, good bottle of wine and perhaps some romance.;)

[Hixski]

Why is it that the Disney Cruise ships have adult only restaurants, but in all of WDW there isn't a single one?

:cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

The people that would applaud an adult only restaurant (and we are only talking about one here) have been trying to figure it out for ages. ;)

The only reason that gets tiresome is that "Disney is for the children". :confused3 Somehow there are people that can't fathom that Disney is marketing to the adults too!! By the way....we love Palo on DCL.

[daisax]

I think there's a difference between a tantrum and a child running pell mell around the dining room while the parents are deep in conversation.

I stopped ordering fajitas in restaurants because I was convinced one day my order of fajitas was going to end up on some tyke's head, and that sizzling makes me anxious until it's on the table in front of me!

Stuff happens, but it's all in whether people are trying to deal with it or not. Baby screaming but mom's alone with a toddler and can't just pick up and run outside? Poor lady, cut her a break. Kids banging silverware and parents not even attempting a "knock it off" or removing it from their hands? It's not the kids.

I haven't told somebody else's kid "no" exactly, but I've been known to say sweet as can be "Oh, honey, be careful, this is a very dangerous place to run -- you could get hurt! The safest place is in your chair!"

Simply by instructing CMs to take THAT approach would cut down on a lot of the nonsense you see in terms of behavior. "Oooh, be careful with that knife, sweetie, it's not a toy" (to parents) "Let me get him a butter knife."

They could have "Mickey says!" rules. "Mickey says "stay in your seat!" "use your inside voice!" "thank Mom and Dad for all the fun you're having" etc. Put them on the placemats (do they even have placemats? Trying to remember!)
Have a Goofus and Gallant type cartoon -- Mickey puts his napkin on his lap. Stich puts his napkin on his head! (Okay, that probably wouldn't work because kids would want to be Stich!)

[toocherie]

They could have "Mickey says!" rules. "Mickey says "use your inside voice!"

LOL--I could have used this last night. Except it wasn't a child it was an adult! She was SOOOO loud--we heard every word of her conversation from across the room . . . . we couldn't even hear the people at the next table but we could hear her! Wish I had gone up and said "Mickey says to use your inside voice!" :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

The people that would applaud an adult only restaurant (and we are only talking about one here) have been trying to figure it out for ages. ;)

The only reason that gets tiresome is that "Disney is for the children". :confused3 Somehow there are people that can't fathom that Disney is marketing to the adults too!! By the way....we love Palo on DCL.

True Disney is for children but it is also for the child inside of all of us.

Remember those that pay (adults) should be able to have one place child-free.

[Disney Doll]

some things you can control - but your children's life you can't. You have to hope and pray that they turn out to be good citizens.

I daresay that a 4 year old laying on the floor in the middle of the aisle in a restaurant, causing the waitstaff to step over him/her with their food laden trays is still able to be pretty well controlled by his/her parents if theychoose to exercise that control.

[Peepster]

So has anyone besides me e-mailed WDW and requested an adults only restaurant? I even suggested that it might be feasible to have a two tier or two separate floors of dining area serviced by one kitchen (to help hold down costs).

I don't usually hang around this forum and am surprised that so many of you share our feelings. And to the poster who first brought up the adults only venue on the cruise ships...bravo! A precedent has been set by Disney which should make it an even easier decision to replicate it on land.

Disney is always looking for new ways to make money (look at that Bibbity Bobbity deal where parents are fighting to throw money at them) and I believe there are sufficient numbers of us adults only that would part with a bit of extra cash to have this luxury. I'm not rich, but I'd pay it in a hearbeat. Anyone else?

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

Tell me where you sent it...I would be thrilled to strongly suggest an adult only restaurant.

[Peepster]

Ever since last night I've been trying to recall the general e-mail address I used to contact WDW. Maybe someone with a younger brain than mine can help me out..it is something like guestservices@disneyworld.com.

I got a response but it was pretty generic and of course included the disclaimer that they do not solicit ideas from the general public, etc.

It's interesting...I wonder if we are a small minority or just a silent one.

[cmwade77]

Perhaps I am the strange one here, we have no kids as of yet, but you know what, I don't mind if kids are a little unrully next to me, now if thier starting food fights or something that would be dangerous to either themselves, others or us, then I do have a problem with it, fo course at that point I say something to who ever is the most appropriate to say something too.

Iget much more annoyed by people that think that they have the right to smoke wherever they want, there are rules in place saying that there are designated smoking areas and those are the only places that one can smoke, please follow the rules, there aren't that many of them.