Huckabee's insane comments. Update : New ways to prevent terrorist attacks, #34 :(

[BabyPiglet]

"[Some of my opponents] do not want to change the Constitution, but I believe it's a lot easier to change the constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God, and that's what we need to do is to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards,"


From Huckabee.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/15/579265.aspx

:scared1: :scared1: :scared1:

[Sparx]

I respect him for being so zealous about his beliefs, but I do not think that someone with those beliefs is what our country needs.

[tinkerbellblondie19]

My first thought when I saw the title of this thread: "Which one?"

To amend the consititution to make it abide by God's standards would go against the constitution itself, so that's just completely insane.

Honestly, could you picture a President Huckabee?

[BabyPiglet]

The reason I'm saying 'insane' is because America is completely based on the Consitution. It honestly is a crazy crazy comment.

But thanks Huckabee, you'll never get the nomination now. :goodvibes:

[I'm a Divaaaaa]

yikes!!

[VMK_MagicalLadee]

"referring to the need for a constitutional human life amendment and an amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

OH NO HE DIDN'T!.


I dont know anything about these people. but now I know, I DONT LIKE THIS GUY.

[CheezDoodle]

:scared:

[::Snow_White::]

I know I saw this on the CB and I'm thinking: :eek:

[BabyPiglet]

"referring to the need for a constitutional human life amendment and an amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman.

OH NO HE DIDN'T!.


I dont know anything about these people. but now I know, I DONT LIKE THIS GUY.
Hey Jamie, if this guy become President, can all us US Disers move in with you? ;)

[Babyjustrun]

Yeah Jenny, I think all of us Canadians are gonna start opening up our homes if that guy were to win the election.
That guy is whacked up.

[VMK_MagicalLadee]

Hey Jamie, if this guy become President, can all us US Disers move in with you? ;)

OMG YES!!!!

Bring your accents. :D

I'll teach you how to live in an igloo! ( PFFT)

[Babyjustrun]

OMG YES!!!!

Bring your accents. :D

I'll teach you how to live in an igloo! ( PFFT)

And how to ride polar bears and how to brush pet beavers.

[crazytp93]

Hey Jamie, if this guy become President, can all us US Disers move in with you? ;)

I sent away for my passport in case Hillary becomes president. ;)

[BabyPiglet]

Igloos, beavers, accents oh my!

Pet beaver, eh? Fun.

[tinkerbellblondie19]

Canada? How about we just move to the Canada pavillion, eat at le cellier all the time, be warm...

[K-Shong99]

I know someone is gonna get mad at me for saying this but...
I think Huckabee would be a good president.
I like his religious beliefs.
If Obama get's it I'm moving to...
Well...
Somewhere other than America.

I can't stand Obama.

I'm done ranting.

Don't get to mad at me now.

[crazytp93]

I know someone is gonna get mad at me for saying this but...
I think Huckabee would be a good president.
I like his religious beliefs.
If Obama get's it I'm moving to...
Well...
Somewhere other than America.

I can't stand Obama.

I'm done ranting.

Don't get to mad at me now.

Although Huckabee is not my first choice, I think that if he wins the primaries, he would make a good prez. So what, he made an odd comment? Hillary, Barack, and everyone else made odd comments at some time. They are never pointed out in the media as much as this well, because they don't call it CNN for no reason. Clinton News Network. ;) ;)

[BabyPiglet]

Alright, I guess we should just throw our consitution out the window then and refresh it to make it fit 'God's standards'.

And may I ask, what God is that? Hm. How would ya'll feel if we did under Muslim beliefs? Or how about we just convert it to the ways of the good ol' Greek and Roman gods?

This country has prized it's self for being a melting pot, anyone is welcome here. Religious freedom.

Hmm...isn't that why we came to America in the first place? For freedom of religion?!

(Sorry this post sounded so snotty.)

[crazytp93]

Alright, I guess we should just throw our consitution out the window then and refresh it to make it fit 'God's standards'.

And may I ask, what God is that? Hm. How would ya'll feel if we did under Muslim beliefs? Or how about we just convert it to the ways of the good ol' Greek and Roman gods?

This country has prized it's self for being a melting pot, anyone is welcome here. Religious freedom.

Hmm...isn't that why we came to America in the first place? For freedom of religion?!

(Sorry this post sounded so snotty.)

Nobody is saying that. While I really haven't gotten deep into this story yet, I think it was a "slip up." Our Congress (as horrible as they are) would never let him put this through.

[BabyPiglet]

Nobody is saying that. While I really haven't gotten deep into this story yet, I think it was a "slip up." Our Congress (as horrible as they are) would never let him put this through.
I know that Congress would never let it through, but he still said it. And he's been hinting at it for a long time. It's his comments that scare me. It's crazy.

[crazytp93]

I know that Congress would never let it through, but he still said it. And he's been hinting at it for a long time. It's his comments that scare me. It's crazy.

I agree with you in some was Jenny. What he said was not right. But we have to let it go. It was one comment. Hill and Barack and Rudy and Mitt have said very controversial things too. We will forget it about it in a week.

[Babyjustrun]

Igloos, beavers, accents oh my!

Pet beaver, eh? Fun.

Oh yes.
And Celine Dion concerts.

[K-Shong99]

Nobody is saying that. While I really haven't gotten deep into this story yet, I think it was a "slip up." Our Congress (as horrible as they are) would never let him put this through.

I agree.

And no one here has to listen to me.
I lead a sheltered life.
:rolleyes:

I like Huckabee because my parents do and I agree with a lot of their points on politics.
I'm a hardcore Republican.

Everyone has the right to their own opinion.
Mine is that Huckabee would be a good Christian president.

End of story.
If you don't agree then that's awesome.
It takes all sorts to make this country we live in.

[crazytp93]

Oh yes.
And Celine Dion concerts.

:lmao:

[BabyPiglet]

Oh yes.
And Celine Dion concerts.
Yay, I love me some Celine Dion. :rolleyes:

[K-Shong99]

Yay, I love me some Celine Dion. :rolleyes:

Lol.

She's great...
:upsidedow

[Busts out with My Heart Will Go On.]

[BabyPiglet]

Oh gosh! It's stuck in my head now.

[Babyjustrun]

Yay, I love me some Celine Dion. :rolleyes:

Everyone does.
We're gonna see many concerts with her... and... Roch Voisine.

[STOPxmickeytime]

Okay, sorry Celine lovers but....

Celine Dion scares me.

(Ducks from flying tomatoes.)

I dunno, it's something about her normal voice.
I think she's a lovely singer, though :]

[CheezDoodle]

I don't think it would be fair to have a president with such strong religious beliefs. This place is supposed to be a lace of freedom of religion. Even if I was Christian I doubt I would vote for this idiot.

[VMK_MagicalLadee]

And uhm... Avril Lavigne too :P

And bring your snowsuits.

[BabyPiglet]

And uhm... Avril Lavigne too :P

And bring your snowsuits.
And hockey pucks. :rolleyes:

[chisnpeke]

No way no how will I vote for Huckabee.

That man...oh my goodness.

[Axel]

I would never vote for Huckabee just because I don't think anybody that wants to rule a country under one sole religion is right for a country like America. We're so religiously diverse that all it would cause would be resentment between the religions, especially if certain bills were vetoed because he didn't agree with them religiously. With a comment like that, I don't think that he could ever be fully impartial when it came to what was the country's best interests.

[BabyPiglet]

So Huckabee's campaign manager just said that Huck will put a cop in front of every mosque to prevent terrorist attacks. Gosh, why don't we just lock them up in a concentration camp. (Okay, harsh I know.)

Guess he really is whacked out. :sad2:

[CheezDoodle]

So Huckabee's campaign manager just said that Huck will put a cop in front of every mosque to prevent terrorist attacks.

Guess he really is whacked out. :sad2:

Oh yes, because ALL terrorists are Muslim. :rolleyes:

And those fundies who bomb abortion clinics, they're totally different. Because they're Christian. And they share his beliefs. Whatever.

[BabyPiglet]

Oh yes, because ALL terrorists are Muslim. :rolleyes:

And those fundies who bomb abortion clinics, they're totally different. Because they're Christian. And they share his beliefs. Whatever.
Yeah, and that's reallllly gonna help prevent terrorist attacks. :rolleyes:

[Babyjustrun]

And uhm... Avril Lavigne too :P

And bring your snowsuits.

Nah leave Avril Lavigne out.
She can hardly get people to come to her free shows at Best Buy. She's a has been.
I also recommend snowshoes.
Because they're cool.
And beach volleyballs.
Let's have the concert in Yellowknife xD
-40 degrees C and F.

[xo juicy splash]

I'll move to Canada if Huckabee wins. Yumm Tim Horton's. :]]
*cough* Go Obama! *cough*

[Babyjustrun]

I think I might move a bit further away from the border -.-

"I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal. Again, once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again." Huckabee.

What I got from that.. is he's comparing gay marriage to things like bestiality.. and taking it to a wrong level.
Crazy man.

[STOPxmickeytime]

Ahhh Huckabee.
I'm actually scared that there's even the slightest possibility he can win.

[imabrat]

I think I might move a bit further away from the border -.-

"I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal. Again, once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again." Huckabee.

What I got from that.. is he's comparing gay marriage to things like bestiality.. and taking it to a wrong level.
Crazy man.


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So now he's in support of the pedophiles?
It says a man and a child.


This man needs to be in a mental place.
He needs help.

[Babyjustrun]

:scared1::scared1: :scared1:
So now he's in support of the pedophiles?
It says a man and a child.


This man needs to be in a mental place.
He needs help.

No.
I think what he's saying, is that if you say a man and a man get married, you're changing the definition of marriage. Once they 'allow such a thing' it opens the door to bestiality and marrying children, and the definition of marriage gets changed until it's 'not holy'.
Which is a load of BS.

[Addicted.to.Speed]

This is the greatest thing that could happen to our country

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3668781&page=1

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Heres one for obama vvvvvv

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12232007/news/nationalnews/going_barack__forth_788233.htm

I want a president who is a strong leader and knows what he wants not someone who is second guessing themselves everytime they make a desicion(sp)


Everyone thats running for president makes mistakes, wheither they say something wrong or just keep switching trains. The thing is that most of you guys dont realize that your canidate says dumb things. You just see of ******* said this lets jump on the band wagon saying that (s)hes a fool. But when ****** says something its just oh whatever (s)he didnt mean it.


flame on :furious:

[Babyjustrun]

This is the greatest thing that could happen to our country

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3668781&page=1

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Heres one for obama vvvvvv

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12232007/news/nationalnews/going_barack__forth_788233.htm

I want a president who is a strong leader and knows what he wants not someone who is second guessing themselves everytime they make a desicion(sp)


Everyone thats running for president makes mistakes, wheither they say something wrong or just keep switching trains. The thing is that most of you guys dont realize that your canidate says dumb things. You just see of ******* said this lets jump on the band wagon saying that (s)hes a fool. But when ****** says something its just oh whatever (s)he didnt mean it.


flame on :furious:

Not gonna flame on you.
Half the time, people running for president or whatever aren't even fit for voting for.
Half the time round here, I ask my parents who they think they might vote or whatever and it's 'What does it really matter? All they do is make up each of their own lies and then go against it.' Not exactly in those words, but that's how people feel about politics today. They don't get into it, because in the end each the of candidates aren't that much better than the other one, and well.. none of them bring to the table what the country wants.

[Addicted.to.Speed]

Not gonna flame on you.
Half the time, people running for president or whatever aren't even fit for voting for.
Half the time round here, I ask my parents who they think they might vote or whatever and it's 'What does it really matter? All they do is make up each of their own lies and then go against it.' Not exactly in those words, but that's how people feel about politics today. They don't get into it, because in the end each the of candidates aren't that much better than the other one, and well.. none of them bring to the table what the country wants.

But, if thats true than why is this thread here in the first place?? and why do you have 8 posts in this thread and are quoting canidats?

[Babyjustrun]

But, if thats true than why is this thread here in the first place?? and why do you have 8 posts in this thread and are quoting canidats?

I have eight posts in this thread, because I think that Huckabees statement was ridiculous. And some related to my country, not really related to this thread. And then that quote? Yeah, found that on Perez Hilton. I don't follow this very closely.

One thing I've noticed though, is if I watch my parents, relatives or even my brother watching something like This Hour has 22 Minutes or Royal Canadian Air Farce (While they're Canadian comedy shows, most of it is Canadian AND American political satire), I find them laughing their heads off of people mocking, say George Bush, Hillary Clinton or Stephane Dion. They're not laughing just because it's funny, but a lot of it tends to be true in some kind of context.

[weirdpaintballr]

I think I might move a bit further away from the border -.-

"I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal. Again, once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again." Huckabee.

What I got from that.. is he's comparing gay marriage to things like bestiality.. and taking it to a wrong level.
Crazy man.


One view point (if it hasn't already been said), is that marriage is an extremely religious thing(sacrament). The idea of marriage originated from the Bible. There's no way to get around that, and, the Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman.

[Babyjustrun]

One view point (if it hasn't already been said), is that marriage is an extremely religious thing(sacrament). The idea of marriage originated from the Bible. There's no way to get around that, and, the Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman.

I think it's more a 'religious idea'.
The problem is, being married gives you certain rights. You become their family. They're on their death bed, and you're considered 'kin' or what have you
But someone can't have these rights just because that person is of the same sex as them? That's just not right.
There are ways to get around it. It's called, stop making religion the be all end all.
People can have their religion, they can have it in their weddings and their funerals. And I respect that. But I don't want people who are gay or lesbian to be denied such wonderful things as marriage.

[weirdpaintballr]

I think it's more a 'religious idea'.
The problem is, being married gives you certain rights. You become their family. They're on their death bed, and you're considered 'kin' or what have you
But someone can't have these rights just because that person is of the same sex as them? That's just not right.
There are ways to get around it. It's called, stop making religion the be all end all.
People can have their religion, they can have it in their weddings and their funerals. And I respect that. But I don't want people who are gay or lesbian to be denied such wonderful things as marriage.


I have nothing against a union between same sex couples that would give them the same rights as a married couple. I agree with you that they should have the same rights, because it isn't fair, just don't call it marriage.

[imabrat]

I have nothing against a union between same sex couples that would give them the same rights as a married couple. I agree with you that they should have the same rights, because it isn't fair, just don't call it marriage.


So gays can have the same rights as non-gays in marriage,but can't have the same honor to say they're married?
That's wrong IMO.

Please tell me if I'm reading this wrong.
If so,my apologies.

[weirdpaintballr]

So gays can have the same rights as non-gays in marriage,but can't have the same honor to say they're married?
That's wrong IMO.

Please tell me if I'm reading this wrong.
If so,my apologies.


You're reading it correctly, just taking it the wrong way. It is my religious belief that marriage is between a man and a woman, not same sex couples. I don't know how to explain it very well. :confused3

[Columba]

One view point (if it hasn't already been said), is that marriage is an extremely religious thing(sacrament). The idea of marriage originated from the Bible. There's no way to get around that, and, the Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman.

The idea of marriage has been around long before the Bible.

[weirdpaintballr]

The idea of marriage has been around long before the Bible.

Ok. I stand corrected. But it has always been between a man and a woman, correct?

[Axel]

One view point (if it hasn't already been said), is that marriage is an extremely religious thing(sacrament). The idea of marriage originated from the Bible. There's no way to get around that, and, the Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman.

But what's wrong with politics today is religion. I'm not talking about separation of church and state because that has nothing to do with this. I'm talking about the fact that too many politicians (and people in general) today can't put aside their religious beliefs and see that we're all human. We all deserve equal rights. "All men are created equal" and whatnot. So, doesn't that entitle a man (who was created equal to all other men, by the way) to marry another man (again, created equal to all other men)? Or a woman (created equal to all other men/women) to marry another woman (again, created equal to all other men/women)? We were endowed with "certain inalienable rights", right? Those rights are "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", well, marriage is happy for most people, so why are they being prevented from pursuing it? This country wasn't founded on religious ideals. It wasn't founded on one person being superior to others. It was founded on the idea that people should see other for what they are- simply other people.

[weirdpaintballr]

But what's wrong with politics today is religion. I'm not talking about separation of church and state because that has nothing to do with this. I'm talking about the fact that too many politicians (and people in general) today can't put aside their religious beliefs and see that we're all human. We all deserve equal rights. "All men are created equal" and whatnot. So, doesn't that entitle a man (who was created equal to all other men, by the way) to marry another man (again, created equal to all other men)? Or a woman (created equal to all other men/women) to marry another woman (again, created equal to all other men/women)? We were endowed with "certain inalienable rights", right? Those rights are "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", well, marriage is happy for most people, so why are they being prevented from pursuing it? This country wasn't founded on religious ideals. It wasn't founded on one person being superior to others. It was founded on the idea that people should see other for what they are- simply other people.


Umm... it kinda was... "One nation, under God." Religion had a lot to do with how the Founding Fathers came up with the framework for our country.

Equal rights--I have no problem whatsoever with that. I want to make that clear.


Edit:
Oh, there's always going to be a problem with politics---it's the nature of the beast. lol

[Axel]

Umm... it kinda was... "One nation, under God." Religion had a lot to do with how the Founding Fathers came up with the framework for our country.

Equal rights--I have no problem whatsoever with that. I want to make that clear.


Edit:
Oh, there's always going to be a problem with politics---it's the nature of the beast. lol

So you have no problem with gays being afforded the equal right to marriage, then?

Also, I direct you over here (http://history.vineyard.net/pledge.htm). If you don't want to go, I'll summarize if for you.

-The original Pledge was written in 1892, a full 114 years after the official founding of our country. It never contained the word "god". The line read simply "'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.'"
-In 1923 and 1924 "my Flag" was changed to "the Flag of the United States of America" after a campaign for the change was mounted by the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution.
-The words "under god" weren't added until 1954, almost 200 years after the founding of the U.S.. This was done after the Knights of Columbus campaigned for it.

But here's another Did You Know?: We used to salute the flag just like Nazi soldiers saluted Hitler?

[VMK_MagicalLadee]

I dont get the bible..

I dont believe in God.
I don't understnad why people have to live according to one group of people's beliefs..

[Columba]

But here's another Did You Know?: We used to salute the flag just like Nazi soldiers saluted Hitler?

From the Roman salute, I assume?

[Axel]

From the Roman salute, I assume?

Mmmm. That's my assumption, as well. I'm not positive of the origins, though.

[Sparx]

First off, I hate politics.
secondly, ryan and patti, you're my heroes.
third, if you're for equal rights, you're for equal rights. you can't pick and choose who is equal and who isn't. so make up your mind. either you're for people being equal to each other in every way, or you think that some people deserve more rights than others.
and finally,
religion has nothing to do with marriage. the christians just like to think they made it up first. marriage is a legal status, not a religious one. why deny THOSE legal rights to two people?

[BabyPiglet]

I think I love you, Axel. ;) I completely agree with everything you said.

[Axel]

I think I love you, Axel. ;) I completely agree with everything you said.

Awww. Thanks. To you and Shelby both. I actually just got finished writing a letter to the editor of my local paper on a topic similar to this so I'm just on a roll, I guess.