If teens could vote who would you vote for president??

[disneydance]

Ok If teens could vote who would you vote for president??

[BabyPiglet]

You're missing some people, dear. :)

Anyways, in the past I've said Hillary but recent events have made me change my mind.

Obama all the way baby. Seems like him and Edwards are teaming up, which wouldn't bother me at all.

[disneydance]

sorry i was going to put a other choice but i forgot and I also would vote for Oboma I also like Hilary at first but in the past few weeks i have changed my mind

[BabyPiglet]

Mhm, I feel like she's getting so defensive and losing her grip. Things she's saying don't even make much sense anymore.

I'm all for a woman in the White House, but I definitely wouldn't support her just because she's a woman.

Btw, I really dislike Huckabee and Romney reminds me of a used car salesmen. ;)

[cra_z_dude_17]

guiliani

[DisneyGirl421]

I can vote, and will be voting in the '08 election.
As of right now, Guiliani has my vote. Hopefully he wins the Republican candidacy though...

[TheAmazingSpidey]

Batman.

[PurpleDucky]

Mr. G

[CheezDoodle]

Hilary Clinton :thumbsup2

[I'm a Divaaaaa]

I can and will be voting for Obama.

[dancergirlsasha]

Edwards.


As long as the next president is a democrat, I'm good.

[::Snow_White::]

Obama. =)

[Cassidy]

Thompson. Which is not listen.

Fred Thompson.

[JessBell**]

Obama!!! =D

[DDRManiac]

Im hoping Obama with Hilary as his vice president i know its a long shot for that to fall into place but... i think she would be better suited for VP and with them together i think we would have a decent shot at fixing a lot of our nations problems right now, i dunno just my opinion....In all honesty though i think we may see a strong third party this go around im gunna say look for a competitive independent party

[reminisce]

OBAMA! haha and the chances are looking good of him winning (i dont want to jinx it, though-i knocked on wood there)

[crazytp93]

Since Thompson wasnt listed I picked Huckabee.

[BabyPiglet]

Im hoping Obama with Hilary as his vice president i know its a long shot for that to fall into place but... i think she would be better suited for VP and with them together i think we would have a decent shot at fixing a lot of our nations problems right now, i dunno just my opinion....In all honesty though i think we may see a strong third party this go around im gunna say look for a competitive independent party

Oh, that's a longggggggggggggggg shot. I highly highly doubt Obama and Hillary will ever team up. More likely, if Obama wins the nomination, he'll make Edwards the VP.

Third party, really?

[Disney.Ears]

If I was democrat, Obama all the way.

I HATE Hilary Clinton with a passion, she just annoys me very much.

I picked Giuliani.

[xo juicy splash]

Obama! :banana:

Clinton also annoys me. :headache:

[HSMndLKfan92]

Obama.

[Babyjustrun]

Well if I was old enough and American, I'd probably go for Obama.

[DDRManiac]

Oh, that's a longggggggggggggggg shot. I highly highly doubt Obama and Hillary will ever team up. More likely, if Obama wins the nomination, he'll make Edwards the VP.

Third party, really?

like i said long shot lol or more perhaps wishful thinking! but it certainly dont think it is out of the realm of possibility

I know a the independent party had never really held much of a candle in election races prior but given that a majority of Americans are disgusted by the thought of a republican getting elected i would say this election would be as good of a chance as ever for there to be a strong push in the independent party...who knows i guess we'll see in due time

oh yea and i will be voting!

[AbsoluteAwesome1]

Obama.

People who don't know anything about Hillary (coughBillarycough) and just want her in office because she's a woman irk me.

My grandparents met Obama before he was running for prez, and persuaded him to run. xD Though that's not like the reason he's running or anything. Lol.

I think Obama has good priorites. Also, he was anti-war in the beginning, and Hilary was pro-war. I've always been anti-war. However, I think he'd be able to handle Iraq well. Without sending 20,000 MORE troops in.

This video basically explains how Bush is handling Iraq. It's very funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE

It's the MadTv one with the iRack. xD

[!magine]

If I was American, Obama.

Hillary is creepy, plus, it's like having Bill in again. Nothing against Bill, but...
Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton?
No.

[DisGirlAllie]

I honestly don't know. I'm either or Giulianni or Romney. I'm sorry but Hillary scares me half to death. I'm independant, so my choice varies. Don't flame me for being the only one on here who even mentioned Romney. I'm sick of all the mormon bashing.

[BandGeek911]

Obama! :D

[pigletgirl]

Giulianni. I don't care for Clinton or Obama. I dont like their views.

[BandGeek911]

Giulianni. I don't care for Clinton or Obama. I dont like their views.

Giulianni is my second choice :]

[Axel]

First Choice: Obama with Edwards as VP.

Second Choice: Edwards with Obama as VP.

Third Choice: Oh, dare I say it?! McCain with anybody but Romney or Giuliani or Huckabee as VP.

Fourth Choice: Jon Stewart with Stephen Colbert as VP! w00t yeah!

Anyway. I only say anybody but Romney, Giuliani or Huckabee because of a: Romney and Giuliani are pro-drilling in ANWR (Alaskan National Wildlife Reserve- A PROTECTED AREA!) for oil (which, with the smallest of errors, could damage an entire ecosystem!) and Huckabee's too connected to his religion. He's using it as a platform and I don't want somebody who is so religious that they would ignore what's best for a nation just so they didn't go against their own beliefs.

So. There. I've said my piece.

In other news....Obama's ahead of Clinton by like....10 percent in NH! YAY!

[Loves Disney]

I can vote and I will more than likely be voting for Obama.

[Sparx]

obamaaaaaaaa

i think hillary clinton is cuckoo for cocoa puffs.:headache:

[Sparx]

obamaaaaaaaa

i think hillary clinton is cuckoo for cocoa puffs.:headache:

oh, and huckabee reminds me of a used car salesman.

[DramaGirl]

Anyways, in the past I've said Hillary but recent events have made me change my mind.

Obama all the way baby. Seems like him and Edwards are teaming up, which wouldn't bother me at all.


Same here. And some people I know might think that, you know, I'm 13, I don't know a lot about politics, but I pay attention, and I keep up.

I'm excited- next presidential election I'll be able to vote! :] yay! haha

[Columba]

Edwards with Richardson as VP. :thumbsup2

[BabyPiglet]

obamaaaaaaaa

i think hillary clinton is cuckoo for cocoa puffs.:headache:

oh, and huckabee reminds me of a used car salesman.
:rotfl:

I think him and Romney should team up and start a car dealership. :teeth:

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

I am torn between Obama and Edwards for the Massachusetts primary which is coming up in like a month.
Seeing how it looks like the Republican candidate will be Huckabee or Romney I am really hoping I like whoever the democratic nominee is since I experienced Romney as a governor and he was not that great but he seems to have improved since then but I still don't like any of the Republican candidates.

I have until November to choose between whoever the candidates may be but I really should start thinking about the democratic primary ballot....

I am really excited about this presidential election since there really was no excitement in the first presidential election I could vote in between George W. and John Kerry.

[Sparx]

:rotfl:

I think him and Romney should team up and start a car dealership. :teeth:

they should buy cowboy boots and tuck their jeans into them, and wear a hat and one of those lame ties with strings on them. (thats what my friend did for halloween. he was a used car salesmen. =p)

[BabyPiglet]

they should buy cowboy boots and tuck their jeans into them, and wear a hat and one of those lame ties with strings on them. (thats what my friend did for halloween. he was a used car salesmen. =p)
:rolleyes:

[Saxsoon]

No shock that this board leans more left.:lmao:

I honestly don't know who I want right now. I will wait to see who gets nominated and more closely research the candidates.

Anyone but Hillary.:scared1: I have nothing wrong with a woman as president, but is she who you want it to be?

[imabrat]

Obama.

[OneTreeHill]

I would probably vote for Obama or Huckabee. I have been against Hilary from the start. :headache:

[BabyPiglet]

I would probably vote for Obama or Huckabee. I have been against Hilary from the start. :headache:
Obama or Huckabee, eh? Wow, how diverse. That's like...opposite ends of the playing feild. Heh.

[K-Shong99]

Huckabee.

[disneychick2721]

Giuliani.

[BabyPiglet]

Oh darn, Hillary won New Hampshire. Obama wasn't far behind though, which is good. And I don't totally hate her, I just think she's recently been slipping.

I think it shocked everyone that she won. Btw, I loved Obama's speech. (:

[disneydance]

very interesting seeing all your votes looks like Obama is winning

[BabyPiglet]

I'm surprised McCain won for the republicans, well not that surprised. I mean his nickname is the New Hampshire President. They love him there.

Omg, I'm sorry, I must be boring you all with my politics talk. :p

[::Snow_White::]

Hmm.
Kinda disappointed Obama didn't win.
But at least he wasn't far behind.

[lilprincss1994]

i dunno know. i used to want Hilary, but i'm not srue. she comes off as kinda mean

[Blooe]

Obama :)

[Ampris]

Not sure yet. I'm more or less deciding between Obama and Edwards, though. I *still* wish there was a way to get a good idea of who they were and what their ideas/plans were without hunting for and reading millions of articles. :headache: Maybe I'll just go to YouTube and look for stuff there- didn't all the candidates have accounts on the site? I could finally see some of their speeches. *Has missed pretty much everything to do with the election so far*

Oh, good news, though- I registered to vote yesterday! They've gotta wait a few weeks to send in my form, but they've still got it and will send me a letter when it's all official. :D

[BabyPiglet]

You can go to their campaign sites, but they're kind of boring if you don't get the politics mumbo-jumbo. Looking on youtube for the speeches and debates is a good idea, also just watch the news basically anytime and they have stuff on about the campaigns.

[disney100666]

Hillary Clinton. =]

[LizSwann32]

i would definitely vote for Guiliani or Obama.

my only complaint about Obama is that I worry if he's had enough experience.

And why not the others?

well, hilary is a faker.
Huckabee wanted to quarantine the gay community when AIDS first broke out.
Romney is plastic.
Edwards had invested 16 million dollars in a company that forecloses on houses of those effected by hurricane Katrina.

Need I say more.

[Disney.Ears]

Hilary just like. I don't know. She seems like she's running with Bill. And I think that's part of the reason she gets votes, because some people like Bill.

[BabyPiglet]

Hilary just like. I don't know. She seems like she's running with Bill. And I think that's part of the reason she gets votes, because some people like Bill.
Billary. (:

i would definitely vote for Guiliani or Obama.

my only complaint about Obama is that I worry if he's had enough experience.

And why not the others?

well, hilary is a faker.
Huckabee wanted to quarantine the gay community when AIDS first broke out.
Romney is plastic.
Edwards had invested 16 million dollars in a company that forecloses on houses of those effected by hurricane Katrina.

Need I say more.

Yeah, but all politicians have a past. :)

[AbsoluteAwesome1]

UGH, did you guys hear about how the Hillary part of Billary started "crying?" I think it was staged. She was trying to... humanize herself. If one of the other canidates started crying, everyone would just be like "WEAK SAUCE!" but since she's a WOMAN, it's endearing.

That bothers me SO much.

[disneydance]

I'm sad that Obama didnt win some kids in my block class got in a fight with our block teacher since everyone knows Hilary is a faker and she apparently like Hilary then I made the comment about if kids could vote for president Obama would have a good chance at winning and she said thats probally true and that why kids cant vote but i still do think Obama will win change is what this country needs and he was the first democrat to come out with the change speach!!!!! Obama RULES

[valeriesunshine]

Obama! :)

[BabyPiglet]

UGH, did you guys hear about how the Hillary part of Billary started "crying?" I think it was staged. She was trying to... humanize herself. If one of the other canidates started crying, everyone would just be like "WEAK SAUCE!" but since she's a WOMAN, it's endearing.

That bothers me SO much.
That really bothers me. But I have to give it to her, it was smart.

She knows that there's that whole stereotypical woman thing going on. She knew that if she showed some more emotions, it would appeal to a wide audience. People would be sorry for her, and vote her way. People would think she wasn't a cold, heartless person anymore, and vote her way.

It so...ergh! If a man had done it, his ratings would drop hugely. People would say he wasn't cut out to be President, he wasn't strong enough. Which is true, I guess.

[Columba]

That really bothers me. But I have to give it to her, it was smart.

She knows that there's that whole stereotypical woman thing going on. She knew that if she showed some more emotions, it would appeal to a wide audience. People would be sorry for her, and vote her way. People would think she wasn't a cold, heartless person anymore, and vote her way.

It so...ergh! If a man had done it, his ratings would drop hugely. People would say he wasn't cut out to be President, he wasn't strong enough. Which is true, I guess.

And his name was Edmund Muskie. :goodvibes

http://www.attytood.com/2008/01/a_brief_history_of_crying_in_t_1.html

[Disney.Ears]

Billary. (:

Haha, yeah :)

UGH, did you guys hear about how the Hillary part of Billary started "crying?" I think it was staged. She was trying to... humanize herself. If one of the other canidates started crying, everyone would just be like "WEAK SAUCE!" but since she's a WOMAN, it's endearing.

That bothers me SO much.

She's just trying to get attention because she's the only woman and she can do that kind of thing..It's dumb

That really bothers me. But I have to give it to her, it was smart.

She knows that there's that whole stereotypical woman thing going on. She knew that if she showed some more emotions, it would appeal to a wide audience. People would be sorry for her, and vote her way. People would think she wasn't a cold, heartless person anymore, and vote her way.

It so...ergh! If a man had done it, his ratings would drop hugely. People would say he wasn't cut out to be President, he wasn't strong enough. Which is true, I guess.

I certainly wouldn't just vote for someone because they cried over winning for something. But I understand what you're saying.

[Pirate Me]

I had to write an essay on Hillary Clinton. I liked her points..but she became all uptight, firing at everyone else.
She's a women's rights supporter (well...she IS a woman).
But so is Obama. I'm actually tied between both of them, but I'm leaning a bit towards Hillary.

[TinkRockz106]

I can vote and I will more than likely be voting for Obama.

I would go with Obama because it would be nice for a change to have a black president. I would never vote for Hillary Clinton in a million years!

[shellybellypolo]

In a case like this, it's a difficult descision.
We have our first black runner, and our first female runner.
But I would have to say Clinton on this one, because women have been pushed around for so many years. Women have only just recently gotten rights.
I understand the same is happening for the African race, and even more that there is still racism going on.
But I would like to prove that women can change the world for a better cause. If Clinton won, she could help put a stop to the racism, might I add.

[Cassidy]

Whoever is Republican really.
*shrugs sholders*

[BabyPiglet]

In a case like this, it's a difficult descision.
We have our first black runner, and our first female runner.
But I would have to say Clinton on this one, because women have been pushed around for so many years. Women have only just recently gotten rights.
I understand the same is happening for the African race, and even more that there is still racism going on.
But I would like to prove that women can change the world for a better cause. If Clinton won, she could help put a stop to the racism, might I add.
I would absolutely love for a woman to be president, but I don't think people should vote for Hillary solely on her gender. Her political platform should be what sways her votes.

[Stitch&figment 4 eve]

I would vote Obama. He seems so down to Earth and humanized. With Hilary in office i think it would be Team Billary, if one is voted to office you get another. I'm supportive of a woman present, but someone not associated with previous presidency. A good woman president would be Condaleeza Rice.

[greenmyvalley]

I'd vote for Kucinich, but he's out of the running for the Democratic nomination now. :( Clinton, Obama, and Edwards are all basically the same to me, but between those three, I'd vote for Clinton.

[bouncytigger22]

Hilary Clinton :thumbsup2

agreed.

[DisneyTeen2592]

Clinton, Obama, or even Edwards would be fine. I guess my vote would be going towards whoever is the democrat chosen from the primary elections.

[unknownname]

All presidents screw you over. So I want a queen. :]

[Disney Dork]

Definitely Clinton and I'm FINALLY old enough to vote this time around so if she get's the Democratic nomination I'm more than likely going to go with her. :goodvibes

[Stitch&figment 4 eve]

All presidents screw you over. So I want a queen. :]

I'm not really feeling Monarchy in the US. We'd still have an executive at the head of parliament, right?

[AdioSkater]

For all of those people that don't want "Billary" for president, I really don't understand your point. I think I understand that you don't want Hillary in because it would really be Bill pulling the reigns. As much as I don't think this is true, would it really be such a bad thing? When Bill was president, we weren't in this huge war that has cost us billions of dollars.

I really haven't decided who I like because I believe that all politicians are crooks no matter what political spectrum they are on.

The Democrats need to stop throwing so much mud at each other because it is eventually going to lead to a Republican in office. Whether it is, Clinton, Obama, or Edwards, I really don't care, as long as it is not a Republican.

[Stitch&figment 4 eve]

For all of those people that don't want "Billary" for president, I really don't understand your point. I think I understand that you don't want Hillary in because it would really be Bill pulling the reigns. As much as I don't think this is true, would it really be such a bad thing? When Bill was president, we weren't in this huge war that has cost us billions of dollars.

I really haven't decided who I like because I believe that all politicians are crooks no matter what political spectrum they are on.

The Democrats need to stop throwing so much mud at each other because it is eventually going to lead to a Republican in office. Whether it is, Clinton, Obama, or Edwards, I really don't care, as long as it is not a Republican.

I'm not saying it would be horrible to have Billary in office, i'd just rather have Obama.

[AdioSkater]

I just have a problem with Obama because of some of the things that he says.

He says that he wants to take big business out of politics but who is it that funded his campaign for the Senate and his presidential campaign? Big Business.

Yes I know that all politicians say one thing and do another, but when it comes to business, it should have no influence in politics.

[Stitch&figment 4 eve]

I just have a problem with Obama because of some of the things that he says.

He says that he wants to take big business out of politics but who is it that funded his campaign for the Senate and his presidential campaign? Big Business.

Yes I know that all politicians say one thing and do another, but when it comes to business, it should have no influence in politics.

I totally agree. The only bussiness that should influence the presidential election and campaign is the US's bussiness, our economy.

[BabyPiglet]

When Bill was president, we weren't in this huge war that has cost us billions of dollars.

Maybe not war, but I believe Bill Clinton was a little soft with al-Qaeda when he was in office.

[AdioSkater]

Maybe not war, but I believe Bill Clinton was a little soft with al-Qaeda when he was in office.


So? What all was al Qaeda doing to the U.S. while Bill was in office? Nothing.

[Columba]

When Bill was president, we weren't in this huge war that has cost us billions of dollars.


We even had a surplus

[AdioSkater]

We even had a surplus



Exactly.

[BabyPiglet]

So? What all was al Qaeda doing to the U.S. while Bill was in office? Nothing.
Are you kidding me? Look up your history.

al-Qaeda basically declared war with us with Bill was in office. Bin Laden was creating terror long before 9/11.

[AdioSkater]

Are you kidding me? Look up your history.

al-Qaeda basically declared war with us with Bill was in office. Bin Laden was creating terror long before 9/11.

Look up my history? How many terror attacks occurred on the U.S. during Clinton's term? When Clinton left office and passed on all information concerning al-qaeda, what did bush do with it? Because 9/11 was a result of a random decision?

[BabyPiglet]

al-Qaeda bombed the US Embassy in 1998. Plus the 1993 attacks on the WTC which were funded by al-Qaeda.

Not to mention the USS Cole Bombings in 2000.

[AdioSkater]

The Bombing in 1993 happened only a few months into Clinton's term, there really wasn't anything that he could have done to prevent it. Considering there were only 6 fatalities, there really wasn't a lot of damage done.

As far as the bombings on the Embassy, what more could he have done? The situation happened and he took action after.

I really don't know what you are trying to prove. You say you are a Democrat, but you are bashing Clinton as if you are a Republican.

[BabyPiglet]

I'm not bashing, I'm trying to say he could've done more. Poeple make him out to be some kind of God, he's not. He was a far from perfect President. Contrary to what you might think, I actually liked Clinton as a president, but every politician has his faults. I was expressing my dissapointment with the way he handled al-Qaeda.

And btw, ask my family or close friends, I'm ridiculously far from being a Republican.

[taz]

Obama for Democrat or McCain for Republican.

[crazytp93]

Maybe not war, but I believe Bill Clinton was a little soft with al-Qaeda when he was in office.

agreed.

Are you kidding me? Look up your history.

al-Qaeda basically declared war with us with Bill was in office. Bin Laden was creating terror long before 9/11.

yes.....long before.
Look up my history? How many terror attacks occurred on the U.S. during Clinton's term? When Clinton left office and passed on all information concerning al-qaeda, what did bush do with it? Because 9/11 was a result of a random decision?

Clinton just chose to ignore it.

I'm not bashing, I'm trying to say he could've done more. Poeple make him out to be some kind of God, he's not. He was a far from perfect President. Contrary to what you might think, I actually liked Clinton as a president, but every politician has his faults. I was expressing my dissapointment with the way he handled al-Qaeda.

And btw, ask my family or close friends, I'm ridiculously far from being a Republican.

::yes:: lol

[AdioSkater]

Obama for Democrat or McCain for Republican.


I don't understand this mentality. If Obama doesn't get the ticket, why would you vote for a republican? That makes no sense.

[BabyPiglet]

I don't understand this mentality. If Obama doesn't get the ticket, why would you vote for a republican? That makes no sense.
Some people don't care about 'parties' they just like a candidate for his views. Taz might like both cadidates views.

His opinion, even if it might not make sense.

[Pirate Me]

Well, I'd vote for any party, honestly, as long as I like that person's views and points.

[baby<3]

Ron Paul for Revolution!!

Or basically anyone but Hillary.

I'm fine with any of the Republicans :D

Obama's not terrible either...I'd rather have him than Hillary.

[smile.]

The Bombing in 1993 happened only a few months into Clinton's term, there really wasn't anything that he could have done to prevent it. Considering there were only 6 fatalities, there really wasn't a lot of damage done.

As far as the bombings on the Embassy, what more could he have done? The situation happened and he took action after.


first: ONLY 6 fatalities? ONE fatality is too many when this could have been prevented when he was in office. tell my uncle, who was in the towers that day in '93 who had lost people he had worked with, that it's ONLY 6 fatalities.

second: what could he have done to stop the bombings of the embassy?! if he didn't restrict the CIA from gathering intelligence, which is their JOB, they would have known before it had happened. he so could have prevented that.

:mad:

[AdioSkater]

first: ONLY 6 fatalities? ONE fatality is too many when this could have been prevented when he was in office. tell my uncle, who was in the towers that day in '93 who had lost people he had worked with, that it's ONLY 6 fatalities.


This happened in February of 1993, not even two full months into Clinton's term. What all can someone do in that amount of time? Yes I agree that no fatalities should occur, but in a greater sense of things, 6 fatalities is less severe then hundreds.


As far as Clinton preventing the CIA from doing their job, what is your source? Where are you getting this info from? (a link if possible)

[BabyPiglet]

This happened in February of 1993, not even two full months into Clinton's term. What all can someone do in that amount of time? Yes I agree that no fatalities should occur, but in a greater sense of things, 6 fatalities is less severe then hundreds.


As far as Clinton preventing the CIA from doing their job, what is your source? Where are you getting this info from? (a link if possible)
As you asked me before...

What are you trying to prove? Are you trying to prove that Clinton was some great holy President? Because he simply is not.

I haven't even begun to mention his 'extra curricular' activites. :)

[Stitch&figment 4 eve]

As you asked me before...

What are you trying to prove? Are you trying to prove that Clinton was some great holy President? Because he simply is not.

I haven't even begun to mention his 'extra curricular' activites. :)

That is going to come up in every Clinton conversation. Many people wanted him impeached. In my opinion, not a role model leader.

[AdioSkater]

As you asked me before...

What are you trying to prove? Are you trying to prove that Clinton was some great holy President? Because he simply is not.

I haven't even begun to mention his 'extra curricular' activites. :)


I am not trying to prove anything. I am simply trying to prove that he isn't as horrible as everyone makes him out to be.

Besides, it is not like he was the first president to do that, he was just the first to be caught.

For a president that constantly had to defend himself, he did a great job. Was he the best president we've ever had? No.

Would Hillary Clinton make a horrible president? No.

That is all I am trying to say. People say how bad things would be if H. Clinton won the election, but in all actuality, that is not the case.

[BabyPiglet]

I am not trying to prove anything. I am simply trying to prove that he isn't as horrible as everyone makes him out to be.

Besides, it is not like he was the first president to do that, he was just the first to be caught.

For a president that constantly had to defend himself, he did a great job. Was he the best president we've ever had? No.

Would Hillary Clinton make a horrible president? No.

That is all I am trying to say. People say how bad things would be if H. Clinton won the election, but in all actuality, that is not the case.
Ahh, I'm not trying to make him out to be horrible. It was one statement about his response to al-Qaeda! I actually liked the guy, as I've said before. Everybody has their faults, these were his.

And if you look back at the thread, I'm not a Hilary hater. If Obama doesn't get the nom. I'm perfectly fine with supporting Clinton.

[AdioSkater]

Ahh, I'm not trying to make him out to be horrible. It was one statement about his response to al-Qaeda! I actually liked the guy, as I've said before. Everybody has their faults, these were his.

And if you look back at the thread, I'm not a Hilary hater. If Obama doesn't get the nom. I'm perfectly fine with supporting Clinton.


If that is the case, you should have no reason to bring up anything other than his response to al-qaeda.

[BabyPiglet]

If that is the case, you should have no reason to bring up anything other than his response to al-qaeda.
And that's why I didn't at first, but you kept going on and on basically telling me how perfect he was. I felt it necassary to remind you of his cheating.

[AdioSkater]

And that's why I didn't at first, but you kept going on and on basically telling me how perfect he was. I felt it necessary to remind you of his cheating.

It wasn't a matter of saying how perfect he was. Nobody is perfect, especially politicians. Besides, just like everyone else, the issue of his cheating had to be brought up, when there was no need for it.

As far as this debate goes, I have no more to say because my points have been proven.

[BabyPiglet]

It wasn't a matter of saying how perfect he was. Nobody is perfect, especially politicians. Besides, just like everyone else, the issue of his cheating had to be brought up, when there was no need for it.

As far as this debate goes, I have no more to say because my points have been proven.
Okay then, I don't understand why you were trying to defend him and how exactly have your points been proven? :confused3

[AdioSkater]

Okay then, I don't understand why you were trying to defend him and how exactly have your points been proven? :confused3

Really?

My whole point was this. People are saying that if H. Clinton is elected, it will become "Billary". If this is true, would it be such a bad thing?

Your two arguments against him are, Al-Qaeda and the scandal.

As far as Al-Qaeda, only one thing happened that was in his control, the U.S. embassy, and that was handled.

As far as the scandal goes, he was not the first president to do that, he was just the first to get caught. Besides is this really the worst thing that can be said against him?

I'm going to stop here because this conversation in just leading somewhere I would not like it to go.

So with these words, I am done.

[BabyPiglet]

As far as Al-Qaeda, only one thing happened that was in his control, the U.S. embassy, and that was handled.

This is the part I'm talking about. I just don't understand how you say it was proven, because it wasn't. It's your opinion of those things, but my opinion differs.

Anyways, you're right. I'm done trying to defend my opinion.

[smile.]

This happened in February of 1993, not even two full months into Clinton's term. What all can someone do in that amount of time? Yes I agree that no fatalities should occur, but in a greater sense of things, 6 fatalities is less severe then hundreds.


As far as Clinton preventing the CIA from doing their job, what is your source? Where are you getting this info from? (a link if possible)

okay, you're right, he couldn't have prevented it. but there is no way you could say that the clinton administration didn't know that it was going to happen. how could he come into presidency not knowing that bin laden was planning something? they knew 10 years before he took office that bin laden was a threat and he planning to do something to us. that doesn't say much for his administration, now does it?

clinton stopped paying informants, so how is the cia suppose to gather their information? as for where i get my information, my grandfather works with the cia and he told me about clinton lowering their ability to find information.

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[AdioSkater]

okay, you're right, he couldn't have prevented it. but there is no way you could say that the clinton administration didn't know that it was going to happen. how could he come into presidency not knowing that bin laden was planning something? they knew 10 years before he took office that bin laden was a threat and he planning to do something to us. that doesn't say much for his administration, now does it?

clinton stopped paying informants, so how is the cia suppose to gather their information? as for where i get my information, my grandfather works with the cia and he told me about clinton lowering their ability to find information.


As much as you would like to believe your grandfather, it is not a source that I find reliable.

As far as Clinton knowing, Clinton really could only know as much as Bush Sr. decided to hand over.

[BabyPiglet]

As much as you would like to believe your grandfather, it is not a source that I find reliable.

As far as Clinton knowing, Clinton really could only know as much as Bush Sr. decided to hand over.
Don't forget, he was a politician before being President. He didn't walk into it blind.

[AdioSkater]

Don't forget, he was a politician before being President. He didn't walk into it blind.


Yes but there is a difference between being a governor and being president.

She is trying to say that Clinton was completely responsible for the 93 attack on the World Trade Center, when it happened not even two full months into his term.

End of discussion, I really don't want to talk about this anymore.

[BabyPiglet]

She's sort of right though, people knew Bin Laden was going to attack eventually. And people also knew it was al-Qaeda who funded the '93 attack. He said they just couldn't prove it.

He was playing it safe.

[AdioSkater]

She's sort of right though, people knew Bin Laden was going to attack eventually. And people also knew it was al-Qaeda who funded the '93 attack. He said they just couldn't prove it.

He was playing it safe.


How much did Clinton really know though? Passing on all information was left up to Bush Sr.'s cabinet.

[BabyPiglet]

It was known by some of the public that al-Qaeda "could be" planning an attack on America, so I'm sure Bill Clinton, being a governor, would know at least a little more.

People have been trying to track Bin Laden down for years. When it was first heard there had been a terrorist attack on WTC I'm sure most political officials knew who was behind it.

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