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stacktester
12-10-2007, 06:05 PM
I was looking at prices to stay at FW March 7th-10th for my birthday weekend. It's the 8th in case somebody wants to send presents lol. Anyway I type in my dates and it comes back $84 friggin dollars a night. I mean what is with that. It was about $10 less a night for a pop up. I'm thinking like Gatordad and not going to be at the fort too much this upcoming year. There's other places around that might not be Disney and on property but at least I'll not have to get a loan to go there. This is even more than our 4th of July trip. I guess it's the spring break time so they jack it up a lot.
OK GRUMPY
12-10-2007, 06:17 PM
Well Happy Birthday sorry its early but I'll have a difficult time remember between know and then:rolleyes1 That is expensive for a camp site I thought 73.00 a night was crazy for April! I know I have elected to stay at another Disney resort for January because I just could not justify the difference when I figured in gas. I really do Like FW! I just will need to expore other options.
LarryJ
12-10-2007, 06:19 PM
I was looking at prices to stay at FW March 7th-10th for my birthday weekend. It's the 8th in case somebody wants to send presents lol. Anyway I type in my dates and it comes back $84 friggin dollars a night. I mean what is with that. It was about $10 less a night for a pop up. I'm thinking like Gatordad and not going to be at the fort too much this upcoming year. There's other places around that might not be Disney and on property but at least I'll not have to get a loan to go there. This is even more than our 4th of July trip. I guess it's the spring break time so they jack it up a lot.
I hear you and for this upcoming trip from 12/24 to 1/1 2007 the rate is 102.38 deposit (holiday peak) and from 1/1 to 1/25 which I think is value is $61.88 deposit so it has gotten more expensive and sounds like the $84 is peak rates. FW is not any bargain anymore, but still cheaper than a resort in most cases when you have the amenities of your trailer.
For our 10/20 to 12/1 2008 ressies the rates we got were $52.88 deposit so that has to cover the Thanksgiving period so I can't say what is happening there.
We just go with the flow ... I want ... they have ... and I pay :sad2:
Larry
drafthorsecrazy
12-10-2007, 06:22 PM
What really burns my butt about the new pricing is that when Disney runs discounts at the value resorts they can be cheaper than what I am paying for a preferred site.:mad:
Gatordad
12-10-2007, 06:27 PM
www.sanland.com I hear ya, it's getting crazy, at least if they rook you in the value resort, sometimes they throw in mozzerella sticks or something.
HFB, my daughter is 3/9. We'll make you a combo cake.
tellnotails
12-10-2007, 06:41 PM
The fort...... just isn't the blue collar resort that it was meant to be........:sad2:
mamaloya
12-10-2007, 09:28 PM
Wow, my bday is the 8th as well. Ok, I gotta sing, "It's a small world after all." You must be special. I love going to WDW for my bday, but I am with ya about the price. With my crew though, it is the cheapest way. I may be looking into the rental homes if they go up much more though.
AuburnJen92
12-10-2007, 10:01 PM
I am not a big fan of the new pricing either. I think the motorhome will be staying in the driveway more often this coming year. And, by the way, since we are mentioning March birthdays....
mine 3/13
anniversary 3/2
DH 3/28
The state gets a lot of money from me in March for tag renewals....:headache:
CottontailCurl
12-10-2007, 11:05 PM
I just told my husband your rates and he said 'that's a suite!!' He meant Lake Buena Vista Suites. It's $88 or so a night, sleeps 6 and includes a full breakfast.
LarryJ
12-11-2007, 04:46 AM
I just told my husband your rates and he said 'that's a suite!!' He meant Lake Buena Vista Suites. It's $88 or so a night, sleeps 6 and includes a full breakfast.
Yea and it doesn't include the $5/nite for the two 4 legged members of the family. While we pay $5/nite for the dogs, it would cost us around $35/day to board them, so for us it's still worth the $$$. We've always had two dogs and before FW starting allowing pets we boarded the dogs at Bass Kennels and because they were/are long haired we had to take a couple of hours about every third day to go groom them and spend some time with them.
Larry
tellnotails
12-11-2007, 06:31 AM
It a darn shame when a working class family can't afford to take thier family to the fort over spring break.........
That never was a problem in the 80s and 90's........
tungpo1
12-11-2007, 06:51 AM
Disney's all about the money!!!! I love the Fort but I'm thinking about other places to stay too. I'm booked for Dec 30 through Jan 4th 08, $100 a night for a slab of concrete we need to voice this to Disney and I mentioned to them that people are going to stop going if they keep this up. Well there reply in a nice way is oh-well.
Gatordad
12-11-2007, 07:44 AM
it's mostly the florida folks that are upset. The folks that come from Wisconsin or whatever only are there for a week, and to them, it's an extra $100 for the week, so they don't care as much. They don't care. If you give up your spot, there is someone else right behind you to give them $$$$
I hear you about the prices. I love FW. For each trip I count down the days and can't wait to pull into the campground. I have the best memories of each trip. I love just getting up early in the morning and walking down to the marina, picking up a cup of coffee and just enjoying the place. But the price of Disney is going beyond reason. I hate to say it, but I think we are going to have to take a break from Disney .....at least for a couple years. It really makes me rather sad.
bigdisneydaddy
12-11-2007, 07:57 AM
it's mostly the florida folks that are upset. The folks that come from Wisconsin or whatever only are there for a week, and to them, it's an extra $100 for the week, so they don't care as much. They don't care. If you give up your spot, there is someone else right behind you to give them $$$$
Yeah.... its those people from Wisconsin or whatever. ;)
never mind the $3.50 diesel fuel to get there.
Maybe instead of trying to free up space at FW by raising prices they could have built ANOTHER campground ????? :thumbsup2
tellnotails
12-11-2007, 08:04 AM
$60 a person for HDDR........for a family show
$100 a nite for camping.............there is no way that even Walt himself was that blood thirsty.......
What are they going to do when the white-haired army leaves the camping scene?????
Gatordad
12-11-2007, 08:31 AM
They'll have to make up the revenue by charging $90 for HDDR and $120/night to camp, plus $10pp over two at the site.
surferrat
12-11-2007, 09:20 AM
They need to include a cart for that freaking price.
We4mickey
12-11-2007, 02:48 PM
Now don't think that these prices don't affect us Wisconsinites! I take that personally. We went down in 2006 over spring break only because it was the only time we could go and DH had to use his vacation up by the end of that month. We said we would never go at peak season again. It just about killed me to pay over $90 a night to camp FW or not. Oh, and by the way we were there for 2 weeks. I can't see driving that far for any less time. Trust me if it was cheaper to stay and gas was less we would be there more. We have been known to go more than once a year even though we live in Wisconsin. :thumbsup2
Gatordad
12-11-2007, 02:52 PM
No intent to insult was made to the fine folks of Wisconsin. I could have easily used Michigan or Iowa or Maine. They just know that folks like you will come for 2 weeks to make the trip worthwhile, spending money on parks etc, wheras us FL people will come for short trips, with annual passes and don't spend as much.
des1954
12-11-2007, 03:57 PM
You know, FtW has probably been paid for at least 6 times over since it originally opened in '71!
To justify $100/nite they should be totally refurbishing every loop (instead of just clearing the brush and planting a few magnolia bushes) making each site long enough & wide enough to accomodate large MH's with slides and awnings and have Wi-Fi and CaTV available at each site. Crap, even Motel 6 gives you WiFi & Cable for only $40 bucks a nite! When you really take a close look at the partial hook-up sites, most of them have only enough room for one cabin tent & a screen room, and no place for kids to play.
Now that all the undergrowth has been cleared out, you really see how pitiful the campground is. At least before the clearing, FtW had personality. Now it looks long overdue for an over-haul. They also could use a food court at the Fort, and a decent pool and spa.
I think each of us needs to voice our opinion directly to Disney. I know I am going to.
If you care to write, here's the address....
Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground
4510 N Fort Wilderness Trail
Lake Buena Vista, FL 32830
Who knows if it'll do any good?:confused3 But at least we can say we tried.
Debbie
Shannone1
12-11-2007, 04:29 PM
I hear you Donnie. Next winter when we go, we have 12 nights of FW camping, plus 10 day park hoppers x's 5 people, PLUS the DDP. Add the cost of gas from Mi there and back and it is a small fortune. We can only afford to go there every 2-3 years :sad2:
Lucky for us there is lots of great camping locations here in the midwest.
LarryJ
12-11-2007, 04:59 PM
While it has gotten a lot more expensive than the good old days :goodvibes for us that remember :lmao: :rotfl2: for our up coming trip we will be under the new pricing policies and getting into FW on 12/16 and leaving on 1/26 and our total bill with all taxes, etc. comes to ~2600. Now add $200 for the dogs for 40 days and that brings it up to 2800 or $70/nite. Not cheap by any means, but still affordable and what you save on those meals you eat at your site really cuts that cost down a lot. Just breakfast can save $10/person so for a family of say 4 the cost for that day is now down to $30 not including the probably $5 in food for the breakfast. For us we never eat more than one meal in a park/resort and then only about every 3 days unless it's like a lite breakfast in France at the bakery or quick bite at a CS. Thus this time for the two of us and 40 days, we will be eating out for like 12 meals none being breakfast so that means we will be eating back at the site in excess of 100 meals.
Before we finally got all our days at FW we had ressies at the Ft. Summit KOA for 29/30/31 Dec and that site was around $60/nite with our KOA card and close to $65/70 normal rates. Like the ole says goes "If you're gonna play, be ready to pay" :cool1:
Larry
stacktester
12-11-2007, 05:39 PM
"If you're gonna play, be ready to pay" :cool1:
Larry
This is true. It sucks that as much as we love the fort that there's not an automatic lower rate for FL Residents and Annual Passholders. Just doesn't make sense as we use the place as a 2nd home. Even as a passholder I spend money eating on site and other things. I'll tell you why it got so expensive is because the refillable mugs are killing the profits lol.
LarryJ
12-11-2007, 05:56 PM
This is true. It sucks that as much as we love the fort that there's not an automatic lower rate for FL Residents and Annual Passholders. Just doesn't make sense as we use the place as a 2nd home. Even as a passholder I spend money eating on site and other things. I'll tell you why it got so expensive is because the refillable mugs are killing the profits lol.
Nah it's them vet bills and support costs for them otter and peacocks. :laughing: :rotfl:
Larry
Yep, we are in that same $ range for spring break. We have honestly thought of changing our plans and staying in a 2/2 full kitchen suite at *unknown* resort....just to SAVE money!! :confused3
Gatordad
12-11-2007, 07:26 PM
get over it, the PEACOCKS ARE DEAD, Not coming back.
terri01p
12-11-2007, 10:51 PM
The next best campground is Tropical Palms and we have really thought of staying there, but aren't they just about as much as the Fort ? The pluses are they don't charge a pet fee.
We don't really take buses at WDW anymore so driving wouldn't be a problem for us, but then we would have to pay to park at WDW.
Even though FW is a very, very nice campground I didn't find it overly disneyish, most campgrounds in the area have disney stuff in their camping store, so wouldn't miss that.
To weight out the options, I guess you might come out the same no matter where you camped in Florida.
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