Public transport Strike

[Melodyuk]

Does this affect the shuttles at all??

thanks

[Cyrano]

Hopefully those who were there recently can offer some helpful advice and share their experiences :)

[marcus.ka]

And if someone should know, I would also like to know if that also effects the RER from and to Paris?

[DLPdaft]

And the TGV?

Elaine

[maleficent_man]

Direct from a Cast Member at DLRP:

no PEP's or RER's for the past 4 days - going on at least for another 3-7 days.

:scared1:

[Melodyuk]

What is a PEP and a RER? sorry for being thick lol

[maleficent_man]

PEP are the purple/pink buses which serve Val D'Europe and the 4 hotels just off site.

RER is the train service that runs from Paris to Disney (the line is RER A4).

[Melodyuk]

Thanks :)

just phoned VEA shuttle to check and she said it does not affect them.. so Im relieved now.. just have to find out where to go.. but I dont know the terminal yet eeeek

[DLPdaft]

This is not looking good for me - we will arrive too late at CDG to catch the last VEA of the evening, and if the TGV may be affected, I'll have to book a private shuttle.

Best get emailing the shuttle companies I guess :confused: ,

Elaine

[Iain Chapman]

Have Disney, or the affected Hotels made any alternative arrangements to ship guests from/to DLRP?.

Got some family staying down at L'Elysee next week, and from the looks of this news there will be no 'free shuttle buses' - nor Train. Just wondering how they could get from/to DLRP/Val d'Europe without either of these options.

Iain

[marcus.ka]

Have Disney, or the affected Hotels made any alternative arrangements to ship guests from/to DLRP?.


I would like to know that too. What if you are staying/coming from Paris directly and there is no RER.
Has anyone ever taken a Taxi from Paris to DLRP?

It is not such a drama if the busses within Disney are not running because even from Holiday Inn/Dream Castle you only need 30 minutes on foot to get to the parks. But you can not walk from Paris/CDG/Orly to DLRP. ;)

[binglybongly]

Have Disney, or the affected Hotels made any alternative arrangements to ship guests from/to DLRP?.

Got some family staying down at L'Elysee next week, and from the looks of this news there will be no 'free shuttle buses' - nor Train. Just wondering how they could get from/to DLRP/Val d'Europe without either of these options.

Iain

We would like to know too - we are staying at L'Elysee from tomorrow and it looks like there's a lot of cold walking ahead of us.

[bavaria]

All right, deep breath everyone.... First, things are always subject to change, and what happened yesterday, last night, or even an hour ago may not be 'current' anymore.

There is SOME metro and TGV service, but very limited, and very busy as you can expect.

Read here for an English language report, which is at least somewhat more hopeful than earlier in the week

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hE624h4tNUx06S-07MtvnXC15fhw

The best advice that I can give is that you consult the websites of the operators directly, as information is subject to change!

For the metro system and RER trains - www.ratp.fr

For the TGV and information about Thalys and Eurostar service - www.sncf.fr

For the VEA shuttle (which is not impacted but may of course be very busy!) - http://www.vea.fr/uk/index.asp I don't know if purchasing your ticket on line in advance guarantees you a seat, but expect the shuttles to be very busy and thus you may need to wait. You may want to consider a 'private' shuttle such as RS Transport/BS Transport instead

For taxis, a 'normal' fare would run you most likely close to 100 Euros, but with traffic snarled expect that to double at a guess. I would consider contacting a shuttle service now to confirm a booking if you are going from Paris to DLRP.

AGAIN, everything is subject to change and for those of you leaving in a few days, information released today may or may not help

There is reduced metro service - estimates are about 30%. But I checked 'my' line and there is one train every 30 minutes vs usual one train every 2-3 minutes. During peak hours, that train every 2-3 minutes is packed between certain stations, so you can imagine what it is like now.

For those sightseeing in Paris, plan on walking between major sights, or consider a hop on/hop off tour service. But remember, those will be much busier as well as tourists opt for that service in place of the bus/metro/RER system

[bavaria]

Direct from a Cast Member at DLRP:

no PEP's or RER's for the past 4 days - going on at least for another 3-7 days.

:scared1:

I'm sorry, but this is not quite correct. 'Past 4 days'... actually, the interruptions started end of day Tuesday. The RER lines A and B have serious reductions.

This is an excellent summary of days events

http://www.20minutes.fr/article/194583/France-Greve-pour-le-maintien-des-regimes-speciaux-le-point-jeudi-a-13h.php

Here is the PEP site with information

http://www.buspeps.fr/accueil.php

[Iain Chapman]

It is not such a drama if the busses within Disney are not running because even from Holiday Inn/Dream Castle you only need 30 minutes on foot to get to the parks. But you can not walk from Paris/CDG/Orly to DLRP. ;)

I suppose thats a matter of opinion - purely from the angle that - after all it's Disneyland - there are going to be families out that with young children who are going to find that 30 minutes a bit of a struggle, especially the return journey when it's cold, dark and you've x number of tired children......

[bavaria]

worst case scenario, if that concerns you so much book a car via Hertz at the train station NOW, and cancel if necessary. I would assume that those will go quite quickly as well.

[maleficent_man]

I'm sorry, but this is not quite correct. 'Past 4 days'... actually, the interruptions started end of day Tuesday. The RER lines A and B have serious reductions.

This is an excellent summary of days events

http://www.20minutes.fr/article/194583/France-Greve-pour-le-maintien-des-regimes-speciaux-le-point-jeudi-a-13h.php

Here is the PEP site with information

http://www.buspeps.fr/accueil.php

Coolness - I hope it's wrong - just going on what a troop on the ground is telling me. I hope all who are going soon get there safe and well and without too much (or any) delay. :wizard:

[Iain Chapman]

It doesn't concern me - this strike hopefully shouldn't affect me - purely because I'm staying onsite, and I've already got BS Transports booked.

I'm purely saying that - as a father of two - a 30 minutes walk can last an age when you've two tired, cold children - especially when they are too big for a pushchair etc - you can only carry one!.

Yes - hire cars are an option - but and here's the killers I think

a) The vast majority of visitors will have no idea about the strike until they get to site / hotel - or if they are 'lucky' the Airport. From the angle of the UK - I only know there is a strike going on because I read this site - if it had been an Airport strike then it would be all over the UK press / news.

b) Even if they know, I wonder how many will realise that the 'promised' free shuttle buses is potentially included in the strike. I'd never considered the shuttle buses as 'public' transport, rather that they were Disney / Hotel backed Buses ie owned or run on behalf of Disney / The Hotels.

...and hence my point is potentially it will be too late before most visitors realise they will need other options - especially in this 'modern' world where we are our own Travel Agent!.

Again, just my thoughts....

Iain

[crim1978]

Just emailed over to the Holiday Inn asking them how they strikes will effect Disney Shuttles for next week and they replied as follows:

"We don't know very much about the strike for it is about to be negociate but it does not affect the Disneyland shuttle bus for hotels"

Hope this helps, hope it's correct as we don't really want to drive if not ness.

[bavaria]

I believe that the Holiday Inn uses PEP busses; I may be wrong... but someone also mentioned earlier in a thread that it may be possible to walk from the offsite hotels to the Santa Fe and pick up a yellow bus there to the parks.

I don't know if this would work as the lines for the Santa Fe bus appear long at the best of times, but something to consider I suppose.

Or using a taxi between the hotel and the parks - but again, expect a long wait.

[marcus.ka]

I suppose thats a matter of opinion - purely from the angle that - after all it's Disneyland - there are going to be families out that with young children who are going to find that 30 minutes a bit of a struggle, especially the return journey when it's cold, dark and you've x number of tired children......

Yes this is a matter of opinion. And it won't be easy to have a 30 minutes walk with two cold children in the evening back to the hotel. But at least you are there.
Imagine you are in the middle of Paris/CDG/Orly with two children a stroller and a lot of big bags. And then the RER/Metro is only running every 30 minutes and 400 other people want to get into the same already stuffed RER/Metro with you. And you won't have a chance to get in with 2 children a stroller and a lot of bags. And you see no way how you can get to DLRP in the next 8 hours.
And then your children will ask the whole time: "But you promised we would go to Mickey today!"

If I had to choose between these two scenarios I would definitely take the one with the 30 minutes walk and the tired children. :) :wave2:

[tetley02]

I am really stressing over these strikes! I am sorted for my travel from the airport to sequoia lodge, my friends have booked a taxi and it is paid for before hand so I am travelling with them but I will need to use the vea shuttle on tuesday to come back! Please can anyone confirm these are not affected, I have paid for my ticket through their website beforehand but as yet I havent heard anything.

[bavaria]

And I suppose marcus if those people knew about the strike once they got there, they most likely wouldn't stay at the park until the bitter end ie exhaustion, but head back to the hotel earlier when they still had some energy.

I just was emailing with a colleague of mine and he says that currently it is taking most of his group twice as long to get to work. And he says 'c'est la vie!' to which I agree - once simply has to make the best of it.

The good news is that 'twice as long' isn't too bad; when there have been random strikes in past it often took people longer than that to reach work.

[bavaria]

I am really stressing over these strikes! I am sorted for my travel from the airport to sequoia lodge, my friends have booked a taxi and it is paid for before hand so I am travelling with them but I will need to use the vea shuttle on tuesday to come back! Please can anyone confirm these are not affected, I have paid for my ticket through their website beforehand but as yet I havent heard anything.

VEA is NOT affected, as posted earlier, but expect it to be VERY busy. You may want to check with your hotel the night before, and plan on taking an earlier shuttle in case the one you intend on taking is full.

[tetley02]

I have checked the route from dlp to CDG airport and iot visits dlp then all the other disney hotels first before getting to sequoia lodge, would anyone recommend collecting our luggage and then walking over to the bus station at dlp before hand so at least then we are guaranteed a seat? Do hotels allow you to leave youre luggage at other hotels, example being if I need to get the bus at 2.15 rather than walk over to sequoia and back to the bus station with all luggage would I be allowed to drop my luggage off at the disneyland hotel and leave it there so i can get the bus from there instead?

[tetley02]

does anyone know an email address for the sequoia lodge?

[bavaria]

You can email here

http://disneylandparis.com/uk/search/contact/index.htm

but it may be best to call.

HOWEVER please note that if you call or email today, nobody will be able to answer about the strike next Tuesday. They simply won't know what the status will be.

They should however be able to answer your question about luggage. I don't think that is an issue - just go to the luggage room and ask them to store your luggage.

[tetley02]

well I did phone them and they didnt have a clue, they said it wont be possible to leave luggage at a hotel you arent checked in at!

[julieannbabe]

we were at the explorers and the buses were on strike - so we walked to the disneyland park on monday - then coming back we got the bus to the santa fe then walked the ten minutes back to explorers.

when we had our luggae we got a cab from the explorers to the train station - it cost 12 euros.

xjx

[bavaria]

Generally they will say that at most hotels as it is a security/safety concern; but in past people have reported being successful.

You could also use the left luggage counter at the train station, or the storage at the park. I have never used either, but maybe others here can help.

[detroitcity1976]

As someone who got back earlier this week I can confirm the queues for taxis at the Holiday Inn/Explorers etc area are huge. The pink Pep buses havent been running since Monday morning and it is possible to walk to Santa Fe and get a bus although the lines there are large as well. It's probably best to walk unless you have kids who arent really upto a 30 minute walk.

We maanged to get the RER to Val D'Europe there and back with only a small wait although we were probably just lucky, they were very busy.

The VEA bus we got on Tuesday only picked up at 3 hotels and it was almost full, I guess they were running an extra bus which picked up at the other hotel and the train station.

[DLPdaft]

Hi detroitcity,

Did you have any extra delay once you were on the VEA ie did it take much longer than one hour to reach the airport? Just wondering how much busier the roads are in the area, and if that is causing extra journey time on the VEA?

Thanks,

Elaine

[Bexx]

I have checked the route from dlp to CDG airport and iot visits dlp then all the other disney hotels first before getting to sequoia lodge, would anyone recommend collecting our luggage and then walking over to the bus station at dlp before hand so at least then we are guaranteed a seat? Do hotels allow you to leave youre luggage at other hotels, example being if I need to get the bus at 2.15 rather than walk over to sequoia and back to the bus station with all luggage would I be allowed to drop my luggage off at the disneyland hotel and leave it there so i can get the bus from there instead?

We were staying at the Santa Fe and did ask at Sequoia Lodge if we could store our luggage there on the day we checked out. The lady gave us a very firm no about that! Then again, if we hadn't asked, we probably could have just left it! They certainly just take your luggage off you without asking for any hotel ID at the Santa Fe!

Depending on how much stuff you have to transfer, you could just pick up your bags at Sequoia and head over to the Hotel New York, which is the third pick up after the Disneyland Hotel and the bus station.

I don't know if the strike was on on Monday, but we got on the 7.25pm bus at the Santa Fe and it was practically empty.

[tetley02]

Has anyone used the vea shuttles to the airport before, how long roughly do they take, i know it is 45 minutes but add alot extra to that for collecting people and loading bags at each stop, it is just that the pick up times from the sequoia lodge and new york are both the same time 14.15

[bavaria]

last time it took an hour from SL to CDG T1 including pick ups/drop offs

[tetley02]

We were staying at the Santa Fe and did ask at Sequoia Lodge if we could store our luggage there on the day we checked out. The lady gave us a very firm no about that! Then again, if we hadn't asked, we probably could have just left it! They certainly just take your luggage off you without asking for any hotel ID at the Santa Fe!

Depending on how much stuff you have to transfer, you could just pick up your bags at Sequoia and head over to the Hotel New York, which is the third pick up after the Disneyland Hotel and the bus station.

I don't know if the strike was on on Monday, but we got on the 7.25pm bus at the Santa Fe and it was practically empty.


that is a fab Idea thanks, I will definitley do that, then I get to have a little tour round the other hotels I wouldnt of seen.

Hpow likely is it that there is no seats left on the bus anyways?

[tetley02]

last time it took an hour from SL to CDG T1 including pick ups/drop offs

Roght on the vea site it recommends you take the bus 2 and a half hours before your check in time, how many of you would actually get the bus that early? My check in opens at 16.40 and I am planning on getting the 13.55 bus is this to soon or is it best to follow their guidelines?

[detroitcity1976]

Hi detroitcity,

Did you have any extra delay once you were on the VEA ie did it take much longer than one hour to reach the airport? Just wondering how much busier the roads are in the area, and if that is causing extra journey time on the VEA?

Thanks,

Elaine

It took about 1 hour 10 minutes for us getting off at Terminal 3, longer if your going to Terminal 1.

[DLPdaft]

Thanks detroitcity.

Tetley I've taken the 3pm-ish VEA from the Santa Fe, and was at my check-in area at terminal 1 CDG a good hour before my check-in desk opened, because the journey only took 1 hour. However, from what detroitcity says, its possibly taking half an hour longer on the VEA due to the strikes going on in France right now.

Elaine

[marcus.ka]

You could also use the left luggage counter at the train station, or the storage at the park. I have never used either, but maybe others here can help.

We have used the train station. You have to pay 9€ for a bigger box. It is a little expensive but therefore you have you luggage right at the train station.

[tetley02]

I guess my best option would be to see what happens when I get there then, can you see where the buses would pull into the new york hotel or the disney hotel? Is the train station far away from the bus depo?

[Cyrano]

We would like to know too - we are staying at L'Elysee from tomorrow and it looks like there's a lot of cold walking ahead of us.

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