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Tinkmom
10-24-2007, 06:29 PM
I have a reservation for a four-night visit to AKV. It appears that there will be four of us in the studio, which can be a little tight. I requested a reservation for another studio for the middle two nights, just because I know that sometimes a little space can be a good thing for even the most loving, close families:rotfl:

I got an email back from MS saying that I already had a reservation during that time period and I must "provide the name of the person under whom this reservation would be made." Um, is there a problem with having a second room to allow a little breathing room a night or two for a family with older teens? I got this "accusatory" tone somehow -- am I paranoid or is there some problem with this that I am missing?

Lynne M
10-24-2007, 08:49 PM
I think they're on the lookout for people who are booking multiple reservations because they can't decide what resort they want to stay at, or what dates they want to stay. This ties up rooms that other members could be using.

Though, you'd think that two rooms booked at the same resort for the same period of time wouldn't be flagged; it would seem pretty obvious that it's a family spreading out across a couple of rooms.

I'd just give them the name of one of the other adults in your party.

tjkraz
10-24-2007, 09:01 PM
I believe this policy originated with DVC's attempts to stem the tide of point renting. The theory is that most people booking more than one room in the same name for the same date is doing so to rent the excess at a later date. Effectively they would book multiple rooms 11 months out and then alter the names on one or more rooms as they are rented in the ensuing months.

I'd suggest contacting DVC via phone to discuss the situation. If you aren't using the dining plan, the easiest thing to do would be just make sure each member of your party is only listed once between the two rooms. If you are using the dining plan, you may need a little extra help in order for them to configure the reservations the way you want.

Granny
10-24-2007, 09:02 PM
I got an email back from MS saying that I already had a reservation during that time period and I must "provide the name of the person under whom this reservation would be made." Um, is there a problem with having a second room to allow a little breathing room a night or two for a family with older teens? I got this "accusatory" tone somehow -- am I paranoid or is there some problem with this that I am missing?

I don't think it is a problem per se....I think it is simply the fact that you cannot stay in two rooms at one time. So they want to know who will be in the other villa, and to make sure that at least one of them is old enough. I don't remember the exact age, but I think one of them needs to be at least 18.

I could be wrong about that minimum age thing, since we have never booked separate rooms like that. But I believe I've read it here and someone will surely come by and correct or clarify my statement.

TEK224
10-24-2007, 10:24 PM
I had the same problem. I'm going in Jan. 08 for the marathon. Have a bunch of folks coming down to cheer me on and needed two rooms. I had a
2BR booked and wanted to add a studio, but had to give them a name of who would be staying in the room. At that time I wasn't sure who all was coming, so I just gave them one name and will add the others when i figure out who's staying in which room.

Terri

Patty3
10-25-2007, 05:14 AM
I had a talk with MS about this very problem. I was told that they are doing this because of the possibility of folks renting out their points. I have never done this, I need to buy more points just for our family. But, I was told that is goes against the contract with Disney to do so. He said that there is one member who books 10 studios every year at Christmas time and they are trying to crack down on him. I have booked a two bedroom and a studio and had to give the names of those staying in each.

dianeschlicht
10-25-2007, 06:08 AM
If the teens are under 18, I believe you will have to have an adult named on the ressie.

MiaSRN62
10-25-2007, 06:21 AM
If the teens are under 18, I believe you will have to have an adult named on the ressie.
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This got me thinking. I am going to WDW in March. I'd need two studios. But I am the only one over age 18. I am taking my two dd's and their friends. So how will DVC handle this ?

castleri
10-25-2007, 07:04 AM
This got me thinking. I am going to WDW in March. I'd need two studios. But I am the only one over age 18. I am taking my two dd's and their friends. So how will DVC handle this ?

I have never been asked for ages of guests unless I stated they are children. I simply state that anyone over 10 is an adult when I give them the name for the reservation. They are for DDP and ticket purposes. You should be sure to ask to have the rooms as close as possible. I don't know if there are any resorts that have two studios next to each other. Now that I think about it one of the rooms will be in your name but one may have to be in one of the girls names and they will ask for a photo ID at check in so you better talk to MS and find out if this is possible.

CarolAnnC
10-25-2007, 12:45 PM
There must be a registered guest over the age of 18 in each room. Invite a friend along! :)

kimberh
10-25-2007, 05:13 PM
I had a talk with MS about this very problem. I was told that they are doing this because of the possibility of folks renting out their points. But, I was told that is goes against the contract with Disney to do so. He said that there is one member who books 10 studios every year at Christmas time and they are trying to crack down on him.

Just throwing this out for discussion...but if MS knows that one member is booking 10 rooms at prime time, then why are they allowing it at the time he is making the reservations? This is just wrong!

tjkraz
10-25-2007, 05:42 PM
Just throwing this out for discussion...but if MS knows that one member is booking 10 rooms at prime time, then why are they allowing it at the time he is making the reservations? This is just wrong!

It probably means that DVC knows that the "commercial renting" provisions of the POS are unenforcable--or at a minimum that it would cost them significant dollars (legal expenses) to attempt enforcement. Therefore the only way they can prohibit the multiple reservations is thru use of this "one room per name" restriction.

dwelty
10-25-2007, 05:49 PM
OK, here is a question related to this discussion. If I make a reservation in two names, for two rooms, as a member can I check in for both groups when I get to the resort? This will be a real issue for me in March, as I will be arriving the day before the others. I plan on arriving at SSR at 7:00am to get a room with a good view. The others will not arrive until late that night. Will they allow me to check in for both rooms?

Chuck S
10-25-2007, 06:20 PM
OK, here is a question related to this discussion. If I make a reservation in two names, for two rooms, as a member can I check in for both groups when I get to the resort? This will be a real issue for me in March, as I will be arriving the day before the others. I plan on arriving at SSR at 7:00am to get a room with a good view. The others will not arrive until late that night. Will they allow me to check in for both rooms?

Tell MS what you want to do, and they can work it out somehow.

The front desk normally will ot let you check-in unless you are listed as an occupant of the room. At least they wouldn't let me check-in for my guests who were arriving a few hours later.

4Pluto
10-25-2007, 07:09 PM
OK, here is a question related to this discussion. If I make a reservation in two names, for two rooms, as a member can I check in for both groups when I get to the resort? This will be a real issue for me in March, as I will be arriving the day before the others. I plan on arriving at SSR at 7:00am to get a room with a good view. The others will not arrive until late that night. Will they allow me to check in for both rooms?


You can be on more than one reservation, you just need to list other adults too. I was on the reservation for my immediate family at VWL and for my brother's cousins in law (or something like that) for the same night at BWV so I could check all of us in. Since the other names on the reservations were different, no hassle from MS.

DVC4me2
10-26-2007, 02:30 AM
You can be on more than one reservation, you just need to list other adults too. I was on the reservation for my immediate family at VWL and for my brother's cousins in law (or something like that) for the same night at BWV so I could check all of us in. Since the other names on the reservations were different, no hassle from MS.

This workaround will not work if you have the DDP, since every guest must purchase it. Otherwise it works well.

MiaSRN62
10-26-2007, 04:53 AM
castleri says : I have never been asked for ages of guests unless I stated they are children. I simply state that anyone over 10 is an adult when I give them the name for the reservation. They are for DDP and ticket purposes.
4Pluto says : You can be on more than one reservation, you just need to list other adults too.

Ok then....I guess I'll have to lie then ? Whether they do or don't ask my kids' ages, I'll have to just say they're 18 ? I feel weird doing this. When I book cash reservations for a WDW room the CM seems to know my whole family and the ages already. They must have it in their computer system ? But when I go to book the two studios, I will be the only one over age 18. If I'm honest with MS and let them know I need two studios but I will be the only adult will they allow me to book ?

Chuck S
10-26-2007, 08:20 AM
But when I go to book the two studios, I will be the only one over age 18. If I'm honest with MS and let them know I need two studios but I will be the only adult will they allow me to book ?

You won't know until you try. However, if you lie, remember that the resort requires photo ID to check-in. If they enforce the over 18 policy, they could lose the room.

Member Services may encourage you to book a two-bedroom unit. It should hold the same number of people as two studios and there will be an adult in the room.

Claire L
10-26-2007, 08:34 AM
I am wanting to book a room with developer points and already have a room booked with current year points, at date of arrival, in my name. My question is if DH gets named on the second room as we may be taking his father and step mother, not sure yet due to health issues, if I cancel the room in my name with the regular points, with a few months notice, will it be ok to keep the room on developer points in DH's name and then add myself to it? Or if DH's father and step mother are able to come can I change it to their names easily and add DH to the same booking as me??

Hope this is not confusing!

Claire ;)

Chuck S
10-26-2007, 08:47 AM
Claire, you shouldn't have any problems doing that.

MiaSRN62
10-26-2007, 10:44 AM
Member Services may encourage you to book a two-bedroom unit. It should hold the same number of people as two studios and there will be an adult in the room.

Believe me.....I don't want to lie Chuck. I most certainly never have before. I just feel MS forces us to do this ? Why can't I use my points how I wish ? (not directed to you---but to DVC). I don't have enough points for a 2 bedroom and this is the whole reason I'm going with 2 studios. We want OKW and two studios would be 22/night. A 2 bedroom would be 30/night. I just got off a 7 night Magic cruise and I'm really point-poor right now.
I guess if DVC/MS is going to (potentially) force me to go with a 2 bedroom, I'll be booking cash at another wdw resort. Just stinks though because I'll have enough for the two studios just don't have another person over 18. My dd's and their friends will be there (ages 14, 15 and two 17 yo's).
Well there blew that plan to save money and book the accomodations with points.........well.....I do have to call and find out first.
PS: how do all these schools and cheerleading squads etc get to do this ? They book 4 kids per room with noone age 18 in them ? I wonder if these schools and organizations have to sign a waiver ? How would a single parent book two rooms if they needed the beds ? Say a mom has 3 teen kids. Two girls and one boy. I don't think that boy is going to want to sleep in the same bed as his sister. So this single mom (hypothetically) would need another room or studio ? Technically---four people---but sleeping issues ?

I'm just really curious now. Sorry, these hypothetical questions are popping up in my head now.

Chuck S
10-26-2007, 11:28 AM
Believe me.....I don't want to lie Chuck. I most certainly never have before. I just feel MS forces us to do this ? Why can't I use my points how I wish ? (not directed to you---but to DVC). I don't have enough points for a 2 bedroom and this is the whole reason I'm going with 2 studios. We want OKW and two studios would be 22/night. A 2 bedroom would be 30/night. I just got off a 7 night Magic cruise and I'm really point-poor right now.
I guess if DVC/MS is going to (potentially) force me to go with a 2 bedroom, I'll be booking cash at another wdw resort. Just stinks though because I'll have enough for the two studios just don't have another person over 18. My dd's and their friends will be there (ages 14, 15 and two 17 yo's).
Well there blew that plan to save money and book the accomodations with points.........well.....I do have to call and find out first.
PS: how do all these schools and cheerleading squads etc get to do this ? They book 4 kids per room with noone age 18 in them ? I wonder if these schools and organizations have to sign a waiver ? How would a single parent book two rooms if they needed the beds ? Say a mom has 3 teen kids. Two girls and one boy. I don't think that boy is going to want to sleep in the same bed as his sister. So this single mom (hypothetically) would need another room or studio ? Technically---four people---but sleeping issues ?

I'm just really curious now. Sorry, these hypothetical questions are popping up in my head now.

Organizations have specific agreements with Disney resorts. Larger families that book two rooms at regular WDW resorts get connecting rooms. There are no connecting studios at DVC. Studios only connect to one bedrooms, making a 2 bedroom lock-off.

MiaSRN62
10-26-2007, 04:31 PM
There are no connecting studios at DVC. Studios only connect to one bedrooms, making a 2 bedroom lock-off.
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Thank you Chuck. I was aware there were no connecting studios. The two girls I was going to put in there were my dd who will be 17 and her friend----also 17. I felt they would be ok even if we weren't too close to eachother.

The funny thing is I wonder if I book two rooms cash and request "connecting" if I'll get it. I've had about a 50% sucess rate with this over the years. Disney will even say it's not guaranteed. It's just a shame I cannot use my points as I desire. I could save myself some money........oh well..........

Tinkmom
10-26-2007, 08:37 PM
Mia, I understand exactly what you mean. And I still don't see how this rule is effective at stopping reservatios for speculative rentals during peak times. If I have two rooms for my family and I check in for both of them then, duh, I am on site and taking responsibility for them.

If I was going to "abuse the system" by reserving an extra room, then I could just make up a name initially, then change the name to the renter once rented. The current policy seems to cause more problems than it could solve.

If I COULD rent a two-bedroom, I would, but that is not available, so presenting it as the solution is worthless. Fortunately my oldest child is old enough to have the room in her name, but she doesn't have a credit card so they'll just have to deal with MY name on all of that!

I am sure you will figure out a solution, but I do understand your frustration.

tjkraz
10-26-2007, 11:32 PM
If I was going to "abuse the system" by reserving an extra room, then I could just make up a name initially, then change the name to the renter once rented. The current policy seems to cause more problems than it could solve.

Members have to provide not only the name but also the address and phone number of the guests who will be occupying the room. I believe there have been rumblings that DVC may attempt to verify the identity of listed room occupants and may cancel reservations if unable to do so.

It is somewhat unfortunate that this is the only route that DVC has taken to address the speculative renting. However, in most cases there are ways to get around the rule for those who legitimately need two rooms. That said, I do think it's appropriate for Disney resorts to enforce a minimum age for room occupants. We parents all trust our children to varying degrees, but as a blanket policy it seems reasonable to require one adult per guest room.

MiaSRN62
10-27-2007, 12:17 AM
but as a blanket policy it seems reasonable to require one adult per guest room.
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Unfortunately, not everyone fits into this cookie-cutter scenario. Therein lies the problem (for me at least---and others like me). My 17 yo dd and her friend are graduating from HS 2 months after our planned trip. Then she's off to college to live in a dorm another 3 months after that. If I can't trust her to stay in a room alone (under my reservation/guidance/supervision) at 17.....then I'm in big trouble when she moves out for college......;)

Thanks for understanding my frustration Tinkmom. I should be able to sign a waiver or agreement or something. I simply do not have another adult to accompany me.

FLYNZ4
10-27-2007, 01:36 AM
When I was a star on the Bob Newhart show... my brother Larry would often say... This is my brother Daryl, and this is my other brother Daryl.

If DVC gave me a hard time... I would just put my name on two seperate reservations. I would check into one room... and a few minutes later, my twin brother (also named Daryl) would check into the other. ;)

/Jim

DVC4me2
10-27-2007, 06:11 AM
Mia, I understand exactly what you mean. And I still don't see how this rule is effective at stopping reservatios for speculative rentals during peak times. If I have two rooms for my family and I check in for both of them then, duh, I am on site and taking responsibility for them.

If I was going to "abuse the system" by reserving an extra room, then I could just make up a name initially, then change the name to the renter once rented. The current policy seems to cause more problems than it could solve.

If I COULD rent a two-bedroom, I would, but that is not available, so presenting it as the solution is worthless. Fortunately my oldest child is old enough to have the room in her name, but she doesn't have a credit card so they'll just have to deal with MY name on all of that!

I am sure you will figure out a solution, but I do understand your frustration.

This is ture, but a DVC employee friend, has hinted that another Brightline test is the number of name changes made per year.

This is a good friend whom I trust, but still just rumor, as she does not work in Compliance or Legal.........

tjkraz
10-27-2007, 08:01 AM
If I can't trust her to stay in a room alone (under my reservation/guidance/supervision) at 17.....then I'm in big trouble when she moves out for college......;)


Universal limits are commonplace in society. Whether it's 16 yrs to drive, 18 to vote or 21 to drink, the cookie cutters are frequently all we have to work with. It's not realistic for Disney to make a case-by-case judgement call on every 16 or 17 year old whose parents want to put them in a room unsupervised.

As for the dorm situation, there will certainly be advisors, security and other adult staff available to assist and guide. You may intend on playing that role during the Disney trip, but Disney can't rely on every parent to do the same.

I fully acknowledge that not all 17 year olds are made of the same stuff, but 18 still seems like an appropriate minimum age for an unsupervised hotel stay to me. Hope everything works out for you.

castleri
10-27-2007, 08:26 AM
If you really want to use points instead of cash:
How about a 1 bedroom at OKW with an air bed or two and a extra set of towels? I know that with 5 people the bathroom situation could be a bit of a problem but you might be able to make it work. If you were in buildings with numbers above 30 there is the entrance to the bathroom through the laundry room as well as the MB and you would have the jacuzzi and a sink in one room plus the shower and sink in the other room as well as the kitchen sink if really needed. If you are near a pool area the restroom facilities are handy in case of an emergency - not terribly convenient but something to keep in mind.

CarolAnnC
10-27-2007, 09:05 AM
Universal limits are commonplace in society. Whether it's 16 yrs to drive, 18 to vote or 21 to drink, the cookie cutters are frequently all we have to work with. It's not realistic for Disney to make a case-by-case judgement call on every 16 or 17 year old whose parents want to put them in a room unsupervised.

As for the dorm situation, there will certainly be advisors, security and other adult staff available to assist and guide. You may intend on playing that role during the Disney trip, but Disney can't rely on every parent to do the same.

I fully acknowledge that not all 17 year olds are made of the same stuff, but 18 still seems like an appropriate minimum age for an unsupervised hotel stay to me. Hope everything works out for you.


I believe the other main reason for requiring someone over 18 to rent or occupy a room is for liability. You cannot sign a legal and binding contract if you are under 18 as a minor. They need someone to sign for the room and take responsibility for damages, payment, etc.

I used to run into this when my two DD's were under 18 as well. Became much easier when one reached the age and was able to be the adult in the room.

MiaSRN62
10-27-2007, 10:10 AM
As for the dorm situation, there will certainly be advisors, security and other adult staff available to assist and guide.
Totally understand what your saying Tkraz about the age limits Disney must set. But in the dorm....all they have are RA's who are college students as well. Sure there is other adult staff to assist----but that's what I'd be doing as well. I'm not sending my dd and her friend to wdw alone if you see where I'm coming from.

You cannot sign a legal and binding contract if you are under 18 as a minor. They need someone to sign for the room and take responsibility for damages, payment, etc.


Again I understand what you're saying Carol, but the reservation is under "my" name...."I" am the DVC Member and it is "I" who must abide by the rules and be responsible for them. I would sign for the room. I rarely let my kids have charging privleges on the room key anyway.

While I appreciate everyone's input....I still don't agree with a Member not being able to use their points for their family as they see it. I'm not renting it out to strangers or anything. I'm making the reservations in my name. By placing my cc on file and signing the agreement at check-in, I am assuming responsibilities for whatever happens.

But alas......I don't think I'm going to be able to get around this one. At this point, I doubt I could even rent two cash rooms either. Wouldn't they require 2 people over 18 for that too ? So I will call on Monday to get some answers and report back. I'm beginning to think there is absolutely no way for us to make this trip happen. Can't book two studios on points.......may not be able to book two cash rooms either......all because I am the only adult. How do single parents do it ? Or a grandparent wanting to take several of their grandkids ? I can think of several scenarios......but oh well.........I'll report back what I find out.
Thanks everyone for your input. I appreciate it :thumbsup2

BCV23
10-27-2007, 10:48 AM
Maria, would a family suite at All Star work for your group?

But you're right that you won't be able to book two cash rooms without an adult in each room.

Besides liability for damage, I imagine WDW and other hotels worry about safety as well. If something were to happen to underage guests in a room without an adult, there would probably be liability there for the hotel.:confused3

Good luck with your plans.

MiaSRN62
10-27-2007, 11:05 AM
How about a 1 bedroom at OKW with an air bed or two and a extra set of towels? I know that with 5 people the bathroom situation could be a bit of a problem but you might be able to make it work.
Thanks castleri. I do feel the one bathroom with five females (four of them teen girls !) would be an issue :rotfl: ;) Also, I didn't think DVC let five in a one-bedroom ---unless I went with AKV. I'll check on that as well. Don't the 1 bedrooms at AKV have 2 bathrooms ? I can afford (point wise) the "V" one bedrooms. But I'll bet they go quick to owners there because they're less points. Just like the "S" view goes quick to BWV owners. I can try. But I'd definitely want/need two bathrooms. Thanks again Castleri !



Maria, would a family suite at All Star work for your group?

Thanks BCV23.....it would be an option, while not my preference. I think they sleep 6 ? We'll have 5.
I will check on availability for one. I know there aren't that many of them though.....thanks again. I really don't want to go offsite.....

simzac
10-27-2007, 11:15 AM
Maria, why not find another adult to go with you on the trip. You could split their expenses if need be, might save you some money to do it that way. Good luck with what ever you come up with.:wizard:

MiaSRN62
10-27-2007, 11:23 AM
Maria, why not find another adult to go with you on the trip. You could split their expenses if need be, might save you some money to do it that way. Good luck with what ever you come up with.

Noone can go....I have asked. One mother of one of my dd's friends said she was "so jealous" we were planning to go and gave her blessing to take her dd, but couldn't go herself. That would be the best option. Anyone interested in tagging along ! :) :rotfl:
Thanks simzac !

lisaviolet
10-27-2007, 12:16 PM
Maria,

I know you pretty well have your mind made up on the two studios. But I agree about the one bedroom as well. Even if there wasn't this issue to worry about. It makes sense to me over two OKW studios.

I should go back and read. But I assume the four teenagers (is it?) will always want to be together. (EDIT: Oops. Two different age groups maybe not with the "always want to be together"!!:rotfl: :lmao: ) As you know the one bedroom has a huge living space and huge balcony and kitchen. You're not going to get that in the studios at all. And no couch with the two studios!

As for the bathrooms....

Well, I know it's only one. But it's massive. And like someone said some have two entrances if you request the higher numbers.

Honestly, I truly believe the girls would be "wowed" by the one bedroom. And would love all the space. I really didn't care about sleeping or bathroom issues at that age. It's a big, fun, fantastic slumber party.



Lisa

lisaviolet
10-27-2007, 12:21 PM
And Maria if they are bathroom crazy (talking hair/makeup) well the OKW one bedroom has that separate area in the living room (beside the table.....extra cupboards and a counter which could act as a vanity) where you could buy a cheap big mirror at Walmart and that could be a "teenager station" as well.

And geez, they might like being altogether in the livingroom so much that you might find yourself with a king bed all to yourself.

Lisa

lisaviolet
10-27-2007, 12:36 PM
Okay,

I went back and reread your posts. They are two different age groups. I guess only you know whether "hanging out" and one bathroom would work. But hey it's Disney and huge suite!!!! I'm laughing. I'm thinking about our first house when I was a child. One bathroom for many years, maybe 1000 sq. feet if and six of us. 365 days! It's crazy how much we've all changed, eh?

One bedroom. I didn't think they allowed five. But they will. They will just let you know that they won't give extra towels, sheets, pillows etc. for the fifth.

Have a great time Maria

crisi
10-27-2007, 02:30 PM
While I appreciate everyone's input....I still don't agree with a Member not being able to use their points for their family as they see it. I'm not renting it out to strangers or anything. I'm making the reservations in my name. By placing my cc on file and signing the agreement at check-in, I am assuming responsibilities for whatever happens.


Sorry Maria. What if I want to put my two kids and their friends in a second studio? My kids are eight and nine. Obviously, DVC can't let people use points the way they see fit, because there are lots of stupid people out there who would rent two studios to save points and put kids too young to be alone in them. Your seventeen year olds are responsible, but not everyone's are - and there are a lot of people who'd like Disney to take responsibility for their own stupidity if something goes wrong. They don't have the luxury of evaluating whether your 17 year old (or sixteen year old, or fifteen year old) is mature enough, they need a hard and fast rule, and legal adulthood gives them legal protection.

BWV Dreamin
10-27-2007, 03:39 PM
Last year, we had people in the next room who had just come back from Monday night football at ESPN Zone, we had to call the manager they were so loud. These were adults, I can only imagine a room full of teenagers.

MiaSRN62
10-27-2007, 11:43 PM
Honestly, I truly believe the girls would be "wowed" by the one bedroom. And would love all the space. I really didn't care about sleeping or bathroom issues at that age. It's a big, fun, fantastic slumber party.
Have a great time Maria


Thanks Lisa ! I'll talk to the girls about this....pick up a couple cheap air mattresses at the Walmart and just draw straws for who gets to shower first ! This may be the only way to go it seems. Thanks again Lisa. :thumbsup2

DVC4me2
10-28-2007, 04:15 AM
Thanks castleri. I do feel the one bathroom with five females (four of them teen girls !) would be an issue :rotfl: ;) Also, I didn't think DVC let five in a one-bedroom ---unless I went with AKV. I'll check on that as well. Don't the 1 bedrooms at AKV have 2 bathrooms ? I can afford (point wise) the "V" one bedrooms. But I'll bet they go quick to owners there because they're less points. Just like the "S" view goes quick to BWV owners. I can try. But I'd definitely want/need two bathrooms. Thanks again Castleri !




Thanks BCV23.....it would be an option, while not my preference. I think they sleep 6 ? We'll have 5.
I will check on availability for one. I know there aren't that many of them though.....thanks again. I really don't want to go offsite.....

Following with interest, and I feel your pain. A little more info. Value 1 Bedrooms at AKV only allow 4 and MS is enforcing this. However, above Value level 1 BRs at AKV do have 2 bathrooms and a sleeper-recliner for guest # 5 who is formally allowed!

What is the maximum occupancy in the rooms?

The maximum occupancy for both Jambo House and Kidani Village accommodations is as follows: http://dvc.disney.go.com/dvc/guest/resorts/resortDetail?id=ProspectsDAKVFAQPage#4

Studios = up to 4
One-Bedrooms = up to 5 (Value Accommodations sleep up to 4 only)
Two-Bedrooms = up to 9, (Value Accommodations sleep up to 8 only)
Three-Bedroom Grand Villas = up to 12
The increased occupancy in most One-Bedroom and Two-Bedroom Vacation Homes is due to the addition of a sleeper chair in the living room.

Thanks to DVC Mike who found and posted the above info!

Perhaps all nights but 1 on points, the last on a member cash discount rate, and have MS link them together so that they do not require an additional check-in & check-out.

Good Luck!!!

lisaviolet
10-28-2007, 07:56 AM
Thanks Lisa ! I'll talk to the girls about this....pick up a couple cheap air mattresses at the Walmart and just draw straws for who gets to shower first ! This may be the only way to go it seems. Thanks again Lisa. :thumbsup2

And don't forget if you are near HH they have showers in the change area. (Not for you Maria, of course) .Okay, this is not my trip!:lmao:

MiaSRN62
10-28-2007, 09:19 AM
Following with interest, and I feel your pain. A little more info. Value 1 Bedrooms at AKV only allow 4 and MS is enforcing this. However, above Value level 1 BRs at AKV do have 2 bathrooms and a sleeper-recliner for guest # 5 who is formally allowed!

Ahhh...good catch DVC4me2 .....I think my mind was just racing and I was starting to think everything out loud. I immediately zoomed in on the lowest point room.

I could definitely do three nights on points, and one cash night. Or I could just cut the trip by a day. The two bathrooms really is important to me. Thanks for understanding my dilemma on this.


And don't forget if you are near HH they have showers in the change area. (Not for you Maria, of course) .Okay, this is not my trip!
Ahhh...I see the mind is always churning Lisa.....I like the way you think ! ;) :rotfl:

castleri
10-28-2007, 09:46 AM
Not to rain on this but the following is from the DVC site about 1 Bedrooms at AKV

Master bathroom with whirlpool tub (additional bathroom in living area of One-Bedrooms in Kidani Village only)

MiaSRN62
10-28-2007, 10:27 AM
(additional bathroom in living area of One-Bedrooms in Kidani Village only)
Ahhh....the plot thickens......thanks castleri.
Could there possibly be any more stumbling blocks put in front of me. I don't think I'm supposed to take this trip :rotfl:

abeyst
10-28-2007, 11:31 AM
Maria,
Try not to worry about it too much until tomorrow when you talk to MS. I'm sure they'll have some way to help you out.

1) I think they will allow you 5 in a 1BR.
(You can make it work with 1 bathroom. Make the bathroom for toilet and shower use only. Makeup is done in the dining room and hair in the bedroom. You and the girls can discuss who take the longest to get ready so they can get in the shower first, or who will take a shower the night before. Who will do hair first, and who will do make up first. There's a counter by the dining room table in OKW 1BRs that's perfect for makeup and hair stuff. Just remember to bring a hand mirror or 2.)

2) MS may say that the 17yo is close enough to 18 to let it slide. Or the person at the front desk will say it's ok.

3) If the first call to MS doesn't give you a decent answer, definitely call back and talk to someone different. Just to make sure their stories jive with each other.

4) If all else fails, pull the single woman card (yes, you are asking for sympathy, you need help with your situation because you're just trying to take the girls for a short trip to Disney (maybe it's their first trip to Disney? I don't know) and everything seems to be getting in the way.) I refused to ask for help for a long time (trying to prove my independence and I'm in control), until I realized it's ok to ask for help sometimes. This is one of those situations.

Let us know how it goes! pixiedust: for you!!

MiaSRN62
10-28-2007, 12:12 PM
Thanks Amy ! I will let u all know how it goes !

DVC4me2
10-28-2007, 03:46 PM
Not to rain on this but the following is from the DVC site about 1 Bedrooms at AKV

Master bathroom with whirlpool tub (additional bathroom in living area of One-Bedrooms in Kidani Village only)

Ouch Maria, My bad, sorry, I was trying to help.......

Sammie
10-28-2007, 06:54 PM
This is a perfect example of where Commercial Renting hurts the membership. :sad2:

abeyst
11-02-2007, 01:21 PM
So Maria, what did MS tell you? Did you get everything worked out?

MiaSRN62
11-02-2007, 07:41 PM
So Maria, what did MS tell you? Did you get everything worked out?

Amy....I'm sorry. Had a bad week. Think dental emergency. I have sutures in my mouth right now and I'm on Vicodan for pain. I never got to call MS.

I have to work Monday (if I feel well enough), but should be able to call on Tues. Promise I'll report back. Didn't mean to leave anyone hanging. Just haven't felt well the past several days.

hematite153
11-02-2007, 08:32 PM
Mia:

Most of the things I was thinking as I started reading about your plans have been suggested by others.

- a 1BDR bathroom is larger than 2 studio bathrooms. So, there's only one, but as long as people are willing to use it together, someone can shower, another can take a bath, and 3 can use sinks all at the same time.

- A standard view 1BDR at AKV holds 5. I don't think there are very many of them and they likely book up early since they are fewer points. But, you could try.