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Navysailor_disneyfan
10-04-2007, 11:34 AM
Man anyone read the story about the lady leaving her dogs to goto disney?:sad1: I cant believe she did that. Made my heart sad. I got my family trip coming up next year and i know im making sure our little beagle will be taking good care of while we are gone.
spiceycat
10-04-2007, 11:42 AM
haven't read anything like that - please link.
You are saying she just left her dogs? no pet sitter, no kennel, no neighbor or relative coming to see about them?
Master Mason
10-04-2007, 11:50 AM
I am taking my dog to DL with me next weekend
Navysailor_disneyfan
10-04-2007, 08:21 PM
Tampay Bay 10 - Ruskin, Florida - A Hillsborough County woman has been arrested on animal cruelty charges, accused of leaving her three dogs to die in her backyard as she vacationed at Disney World.
Hillsborough Animal Services officials say 30-year-old Alicia Visscher of Ruskin left her three Dalmatians confined in the sun in her backyard without food and water.
Investigators were alerted to the situation by neighbors who heard the dogs incessantly crying and barking.
By the time rescuers got to the animals, one of the dogs, Alex, lay dying and had to be euthanized.
Visscher is charged with one count of felony animal cruelty and two counts of improper confinement of animals.
The two surviving Dalmatians, Freckles and Sam, will be put up for adoption.
Safari Queen
10-04-2007, 08:56 PM
I would like to see this woman trapped in a small space, in the sun, without food or water for at least three days. And maybe we could put Michael Vick in there with her.
AnninIowa
10-04-2007, 11:09 PM
What a monster!!! I hope they throw the book at her.
The hardest part about going on vacation is leaving my two pugs at the vet - I try to make up for it by bringing the lots of presents!! As much as I love Disney, I'm always ready to come home to my babies.
Luvchefmic
10-05-2007, 07:26 AM
Tampay Bay 10 - Ruskin, Florida - A Hillsborough County woman has been arrested on animal cruelty charges, accused of leaving her three dogs to die in her backyard as she vacationed at Disney World.
Hillsborough Animal Services officials say 30-year-old Alicia Visscher of Ruskin left her three Dalmatians confined in the sun in her backyard without food and water.
Investigators were alerted to the situation by neighbors who heard the dogs incessantly crying and barking.
By the time rescuers got to the animals, one of the dogs, Alex, lay dying and had to be euthanized.
Visscher is charged with one count of felony animal cruelty and two counts of improper confinement of animals.
The two surviving Dalmatians, Freckles and Sam, will be put up for adoption.
First NavySailor I want to welcome you to the disboards & thank you for your military service (my DD & my SIL are USMC :love: ) as far as this horrible woman & her dogs there was another case a few years back here on Long Island a man left his poor dog in a closet :scared1: while taking his daughter to WDW I don't recall the exact charges but they did throw the book at him I work for our county PD & have also been invloved in Point & Dachshund rescue for years (which explains how we ended up with 8 fur-babies ;) ) there are horrendous people in our world & I only pray there is a special place in H*LL for all of them, Ruthie
Navysailor_disneyfan
10-05-2007, 01:02 PM
First NavySailor I want to welcome you to the disboards & thank you for your military service (my DD & my SIL are USMC :love: ) as far as this horrible woman & her dogs there was another case a few years back here on Long Island a man left his poor dog in a closet :scared1: while taking his daughter to WDW I don't recall the exact charges but they did throw the book at him I work for our county PD & have also been invloved in Point & Dachshund rescue for years (which explains how we ended up with 8 fur-babies ;) ) there are horrendous people in our world & I only pray there is a special place in H*LL for all of them, Ruthie
Thank you:love: Yea i hope they put the both of them in a cage with dogs who havent eat for weeks. I just dont see why she couldnt just put them at a dog kennel. It not like it alot of money. Why even have pets if your gone o do something like that?
Pakey
10-05-2007, 02:01 PM
My two little babies, Chinese Cresteds, have such difficulty when I go on vacation that it's really tough to leave them. Kenneling is out of the question because my little boy is terrified of all strangers. I had a house sitter/dog sitter come stay at the house the last time but even that stressed them out so for the next two vacations, I'm having my adult son come stay with them. Don't know what I'm going to do in Jan 09 when we do the grand gathering and my son will be going with us but I'm already working on some plans. I would rather skip vacation than put stress on my sweet little babies.
Several years ago (and while I lived in a different state), there was a truck driver who parked his pickup on our street every morning and left his 3 dogs tied in the back of that pickup while he left driving his truck. As soon as I figured out what was going on, I called the local SPCA and had them come pick up those dogs. It was very warm out, they were in the sun and tied on pretty short ropes to keep them away from one another. There was no food or water. I did take water out to them because it took the SPCA a few hours to get there. That evening, that truck driver came to my door and asked me if I had seen anyone take his dogs. I told him I'd just gotten home and hadn't seen any dogs. There were no other houses around so I'm sure he figured somebody drove by, stopped, and took them. Didn't bother me in the least to lie about it. I do not understand the mentality of people who want to own dogs but do not want to take care of them properly.
Navysailor_disneyfan
10-05-2007, 05:13 PM
My two little babies, Chinese Cresteds, have such difficulty when I go on vacation that it's really tough to leave them. Kenneling is out of the question because my little boy is terrified of all strangers. I had a house sitter/dog sitter come stay at the house the last time but even that stressed them out so for the next two vacations, I'm having my adult son come stay with them. Don't know what I'm going to do in Jan 09 when we do the grand gathering and my son will be going with us but I'm already working on some plans. I would rather skip vacation than put stress on my sweet little babies.
Several years ago (and while I lived in a different state), there was a truck driver who parked his pickup on our street every morning and left his 3 dogs tied in the back of that pickup while he left driving his truck. As soon as I figured out what was going on, I called the local SPCA and had them come pick up those dogs. It was very warm out, they were in the sun and tied on pretty short ropes to keep them away from one another. There was no food or water. I did take water out to them because it took the SPCA a few hours to get there. That evening, that truck driver came to my door and asked me if I had seen anyone take his dogs. I told him I'd just gotten home and hadn't seen any dogs. There were no other houses around so I'm sure he figured somebody drove by, stopped, and took them. Didn't bother me in the least to lie about it. I do not understand the mentality of people who want to own dogs but do not want to take care of them properly.
Score one for the good guys!!! :cheer2: I would have done the same thing.
mrincredible2008
10-05-2007, 06:15 PM
As much as I love Disney, I'm always ready to come home to my babies.[/QUOTE]
we miss our pugs also. hard enough to leave them in good care. cant imagine leaving them alone.:sad2:
kapoof
10-06-2007, 05:41 AM
What a monster!!! I hope they throw the book at her.
The hardest part about going on vacation is leaving my two pugs at the vet - I try to make up for it by bringing the lots of presents!! As much as I love Disney, I'm always ready to come home to my babies.
i'm with you, as much as i LOVE disney i hate leaving my bulldog at the vet, in fact we may not go this year because it is sooo hard on him (he gets depressed) this lady who left her 3 dogs should get beat by a stick with a nail in it!
Wigit12
10-06-2007, 07:00 AM
We haven't gone on vacation for over a year because we didn't have anyone to stay with our dogs. Our son got married--house and dogs of his own--so we wouldn't expect him to stay at our house. Boarding is not an option with one dog--he probably wouldn't eat all week long. The other is 115 lbs and laid back but she'd still be confused. They're 9 & 10 and have never stayed anywhere else.
People tell us all the time we're crazy and they'd "get over it" but we won't do it. Finally have a neighbor's son who we're going to try in a few weeks. I'm praying it works out for both sides. We really like to travel--even just for weekends.
Carol17
10-06-2007, 11:17 PM
I too hate to leave my pets behind. I have two cats, and the MIL will be coming to feed them and check on them daily. They do not like to be around strangers, so being in their own home is best for them. Last time we went away the MIL had to spend a lot of time hunting around for my younger cat because he always hides when she comes. I wish he was a more sociable kitty, I want everyone to see the funny,sweet,talkative cat that I see!
The dread I feel when I have to leave them is awful. I only vacation for a week every 2 or 3 years, but I still feel guilty. Thankfully, I am able to get daily updates from the MIL through email, so that helps alot!
disnut1149
10-09-2007, 08:26 PM
Hi
Those poor dogs. Some people are so horrible!! I hate the thought of leaving my dog when I go away on vacation. I usually get the dog sitter that I've used for years to stay in my house or have one of my grown kids stay in the house. My DH and I are going to DW in Dec and my son will stay with our dog while we're away. She's 13 1/2 and we've never put her in a kennel. I wouldn't go away if that was the only alternative. When I get home from a trip, she cries and cries and I feel so guilty.
mjcole2004
10-11-2007, 09:06 PM
I just don't understand some people - why get a dog if you are not going to be willing to take proper care of him/her? :sad2:
My dogs can't be left at any type of kennel. Last time we tried our black lab actuallly refused to eat (which if you know anything about labs, is really unusual!). We rushed to go get him thinking something was terribly wrong. Of course as soon as we got him home he scarfed down his food. Guess he was just going on a hunger strike out of protest. At least we know he likes us! :goodvibes
From now on, if we can't take them with us, it's grandma and granpa's house where they will get spoiled rotten.... well more rotten ;)
ChevyNat
10-14-2007, 10:03 PM
I'm in the process of getting a divorce... my soon Ex, wanted to adopt a Greyhound for years... so we finally got one when my daughter was 3... Like I said he's left us and moved in with his new girlfriend (all this within 3 weeks of leaving us) He then told me to get rid of the dog, he's too much trouble and he does not want it... What a loser... my daughter adores Pharaoh and I will not put her through losing her father and her pet. He's been with us for 4 years now, a rescued race dog and I love him and he is part of the family...
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/marconat13/familypicture3.jpg
Family picture, Me, Ryan, Shannon and Pharaoh
daisy2
10-15-2007, 11:35 AM
We have to cats. We use to board them too but it was to much on our oldest cat Mickey. He is very nervous around strangers and runs and hide anyways so we make it a point to have friends come by and check there water dish and change there cat box. Tinkerbell the youngest of the two is more social so she always greets our friends/neighbors at the door.
People like that who take on the responsiability of animal need to realizie it's a life long responsiability. I too hope they throw the book at her.
Dee & Greg
10-15-2007, 12:09 PM
Good grief! Some people aren't as evolved as the dogs!
My babies go to "Grandma's" when we go to WDW.. an vice versa. Granted, we have three dogs, but my Mother' 112 lb Golden Retriever weighs more than my three girls combined!
PrincessSuzanne
10-15-2007, 07:54 PM
It is tough to find a vet that will board exotics, I have 2 rabbits and there is only one vet in town that will keep them and they have to be given strict instructions. These bunnies are well, only 2 of my babies, but they are just that, my babies. My mom kept all of my pets in August when DH and I went to WDW and she was quite busy for those couple of days and one of my cats wouldn't let her go to the bathroom by herself, he had to follow her.
Now, when we all go away in December my DH's BF will check on them daily and feed them. I do not expect someone else to change my cats litter, so I buy those disposable cat sand trays and leave several of them out, then just throw them away after they use them. We have to leav down puppy training pads for the dogs, but our neighbor will come let them out for alittle while each day. If we go for a week, I board them, our vet will put 2 of my cats in each pen so they aren't alone, they are with another cat they know. Just got the dog, so we don't know how that will work, I am actually hoping to pay my BF to take care of them, becasue she could probably use the money I would pay the vet and everyone is much happier in their own home anyway.
I just hate people that abuse animals. I will report your a** in a heartbeat.
Suzanne princess:
iluvwesties
10-15-2007, 08:33 PM
My girl goes to visit with Nana and Grandpa and is spoilled rotten :thumbsup2
I wouldn't go on vacation if I didn't have a safe haven/home for her to go to.
It saddens me that a person would leave their pets in such a terrible condition to go to WDW, the only consolation is that hopefully the two surviving dogs will be adopted by a loving home where they are wanted ::yes::
My cockatoo stays at home and my neighbours (who love him) are happy to look after him. They get him out of his cage and sit and watch TV with him :rotfl:
Nice to see we have lots of pet lovers on these boards :thumbsup2
Take care all :)
iluvwesties - aka Carol :wave:
MandaPerry
10-16-2007, 10:42 PM
I have been working for the CT humane society for two years now and you would not believe what we see on a daily basis. People wonder why I need the magic of Disney.:wizard: I am just glad that I work for a place that saves more animals then they destroy
pixiestyx
10-28-2007, 02:41 PM
Just an idea for those of you who want to travel but don't feel that your dogs would do well boarded at a kennel or vet. We adopted a pair of rescued litter mates back in June & were worried about boarding them due to having been moved around so much during their rescue time. They've both developed a tiny bit of separation anxiety, and one is skittish around men.
Anyway, we have a dog-walker who comes once a week, and she does overnights to sit for owners on vacation as well, so we had her come stay at our home with them. One of our friends also offered to bring their dog over a few nights during the week for "play dates".
Since the dogs love their sitter & our friend, they had plenty of attention while we were gone & no problems at all.
It wasn't too expensive to have the walker do overnights, I'm fairly sure it was less than a kennel would have cost for a week in our area - especially for 2 dogs.
Even if you don't regularly need a walker, you may still be able to find one who's willing to do the overnights & then just have them come over a few times for the month or two before the trip to get familiar with the pets. :)
bsusanmb
10-28-2007, 11:32 PM
My little boy, Riley, male Maltese one year old and 4 pounds 8 ounces if so much a part of DH's and my life that we get so sad when we have to leave him. We hardly go out anymore for dinner because of Riley. I have so many friends who love him and volunteer to keep him when we go on vacation...he is so spoiled...and he licks you to death..,,,how could anyone be so mean as to hurt a pet?
mrincredible2008
10-29-2007, 07:30 PM
some bad stuff on this thread. treat your dogs like you would expect to be treated. ruff isnt how they need to live their short lives.
savannahjean85
10-30-2007, 01:35 PM
this breaks my heart. Today I just went to the store to stock up on extras (food, treats) for my sister while she pet sits for us. I hate not being able to take the boys with us while we go. I don't have kids but I feel my dogs are my children.
dogsrnice
03-01-2008, 01:32 AM
I know this woman personally and she loved all her animals. Reporters will write anything that thay will make the news.
Master Mason
03-01-2008, 03:45 AM
I know this woman personally and she loved all her animals. Reporters will write anything that thay will make the news.
yea she must have to leave them with no food or water, so that one of them died because of it.
dogsrnice
03-01-2008, 08:54 PM
I know this woman personally and she loved all her animals. Reporters will write anything that they think will make the news. Some people just have to believe what ever they read and hear because they are nothing more than sheep, waiting for someone to do their thinking for them.
dogsrnice
03-01-2008, 09:28 PM
I know this woman personally. I think that if some of you people would take a moment to think about how you would feel if you were in her shoes or if she was someone you cared about, you would want people to know the whole story before they start judging. She truly loved her dogs with all of her being and she would not do anything to put her puppies in harms way. All of the dogs had food and water. They were also being taken care of when she went to Disney. The dogs would go with the family to Disney, if it was going to be more than a day trip and had several times in the past. Do everyone a favor and when you read this take a moment to think how you would feel if the shoe was on the other foot, before you think negative thoughts that you feel that you must express for others to read, think that this could be anyone of you or someone you care about. Remember that she is human and she has feelings too. She is not this evil person that the news pertrays her to be. She is a very kind and loving person. She misses her sweet loving dalmations.
kapoof
03-02-2008, 07:20 AM
I know this woman personally and she loved all her animals. Reporters will write anything that thay will make the news.
i think her version of love no one needs!
so what is the real story then? how come you didn't post it?
maybe a bridge somewhere is missing a troll.
tink8jr
03-05-2008, 01:16 AM
First off I don't care who it is I feel if you abuse any animal they should do to you what you did to that animal WHATEVER it is, why is it ok to hurt animals but these people have RIGHTS those animals have RIGHTS to it burns me up to see people abuse animals we need harsher laws against this! There has to be something to this story or she wouldn't have been charged, I wasn't there so I don't know.I do know that I have seven animals and I just got back from a 3 week trip they all were taking care of by friends and family if I couldn't have gotten someone I would have put them in a kennel (couldn't take them to the condo, or to Mexico). I don't understand what these stupid people are thinking when they do this, duh would you want to be treated this way? People like this are taking up my space and air, I hope they all get what they deserve!
tink8jr
03-05-2008, 11:36 PM
I am very sad to say A video that surfaced on internet site YouTube appears to show a Marine tossing a puppy off a cliff, this makes me sick and I hope if this is true, the Marines will do the right thing! I see no Honor,Courage or Commitment in what this Marine did I only see a coward to hurt a defenseless animal. I support our Military especially the Marines since my husband is a MARINE, I DO NOT SUPPORT ANIMAL CRUELTY. He deserves for someone to do to him, what he did to that puppy!
Master Mason
03-06-2008, 12:39 AM
I know this woman personally. I think that if some of you people would take a moment to think about how you would feel if you were in her shoes or if she was someone you cared about, you would want people to know the whole story before they start judging. She truly loved her dogs with all of her being and she would not do anything to put her puppies in harms way. All of the dogs had food and water. They were also being taken care of when she went to Disney. The dogs would go with the family to Disney, if it was going to be more than a day trip and had several times in the past. Do everyone a favor and when you read this take a moment to think how you would feel if the shoe was on the other foot, before you think negative thoughts that you feel that you must express for others to read, think that this could be anyone of you or someone you care about. Remember that she is human and she has feelings too. She is not this evil person that the news pertrays her to be. She is a very kind and loving person. She misses her sweet loving dalmations.
If she hadn't done something wrong, A, one of the dogs wouldn't be dead, and B, they wouldn't have taken the others away.
aubriee
03-06-2008, 12:08 PM
I know this woman personally. I think that if some of you people would take a moment to think about how you would feel if you were in her shoes or if she was someone you cared about, you would want people to know the whole story before they start judging. She truly loved her dogs with all of her being and she would not do anything to put her puppies in harms way. All of the dogs had food and water. They were also being taken care of when she went to Disney. The dogs would go with the family to Disney, if it was going to be more than a day trip and had several times in the past. Do everyone a favor and when you read this take a moment to think how you would feel if the shoe was on the other foot, before you think negative thoughts that you feel that you must express for others to read, think that this could be anyone of you or someone you care about. Remember that she is human and she has feelings too. She is not this evil person that the news pertrays her to be. She is a very kind and loving person. She misses her sweet loving dalmations.
Anyone else notice that this poster has only three posts (all on this thread) and that she has three Dalmations in her avatar? I may be wrong, but I think this poster may know the woman VERY well and may even see her every time she looks in the mirror.
Saying that, what happened is terrible, but we don't know the whole story. What if she had hired someone to come take care of the dogs and that someone let her down and didn't do it? My big Akita stays at his trainers, because no one else could handle him and I know he'll be well taken care of. My little schih tzu has stayed with a coworker before when family was not available (she would not handle a kennel well at all). I knew the coworker really well and knew Maggie would be spoiled rotten, but I still worried about her. I had considered letting my neighbor's son come over to take care of Maggie, but decided he was too immature to handle the responsibility and might neglect her.
If I had decided to let the neighbor's son care for my little dog, I could have come home to the same situation that lady did. He's a good kid and about 12 y/o, so probably could have handled it, but I wasn't willing to take a chance.
2vets
03-14-2008, 03:11 PM
There is a special place in hell for someone who does this sort of thing. If you don't have someone to stay with/care for your animals, don't want to leave them at a kennel and cannot afford to hire a dogwalker/dogsitter (even for a day trip - we pay our dogwalker to come when we are gone for the day - more than 6-8 hrs), you either (1) cannot afford the trip or (2) should not own an animal. Owning an animal is not a right - it is a privilege and responsibility, just like having a child. Taking care of your animal should be PART OF THE BUDGET FOR YOUR TRIP!!! EVEN A DAY TRIP!
Animals depend on us, and it breaks my heart to see people treat their so-called family members like this. Honestly, it doesn't matter if they DID have food and water if the ambient temperature was a certain level and there was no cool shelter for the dogs - in the shade of a tree with high temps/humidity does not count! Dogs do not have sweat glands, and they cannot control their internal temperature as we do!
As an aside, I have had to report dogs in a car in the WDW parking lot more than once. Thank goodness the cops have the right to break a car window; an animal can die very quickly in the hot Florida sun, and it's worse in a car (even with a cracked window).
Sorry for the rant, but I could not help myself!!!!!!!
(We budget for a dogsitter who is a tech at our local vet office - she brings her dog over, and the dogs know her as part of their extended family. It is expensive, but worth it to know that we can leave them in an environment they are familiar with...)
Rose Smith
03-25-2008, 12:09 AM
I am planning to WDW and will be in WDW 4/20 -4/26 for my first stay, before going there I planed my complete trip and I hire a dog sitter for my dogs for a complete week. I haven’t read any story I would like to read complete story and I would like to see this woman (monster):hippie: . pirate: :scared1:
CandleontheWater
03-27-2008, 06:29 PM
I think its positively tragic what happend to those dogs! It really breaks my heart to see anything bad happen to animals. Perhaps this woman did arrage for someone to come and care for the dogs, and they did not do thier job. This only illustrates why it is so important to leave your pet with a licenced, bonded and insured petsitter; licenced kennel; or a really, really trusted friend or family member.
My heart goes out to the deceased dog, and I hope its in a better place. :sad2:
mdhkitten
03-27-2008, 07:05 PM
This brought a smile to my face (although the entire thing angers me beyond belief!!!!). I'm just glad to see that someone has humiliated her, which she totally deserves!:
http://pysih.com/2007/10/08/alicia-visscher/
Kimmielee
04-01-2008, 01:32 AM
This brought a smile to my face (although the entire thing angers me beyond belief!!!!). I'm just glad to see that someone has humiliated her, which she totally deserves!:
http://pysih.com/2007/10/08/alicia-visscher/
Nice to have the true story... not something a troll created. I love how this was written! Thanks for sharing! :goodvibes
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