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Goofy41
09-04-2007, 09:50 AM
We jsut returned from our trip to POP and had the DDP. We had ressies and I must say, after making them we had to wait on averave almost 45 mins after our assisgned time to sit and have our meal. They tell you to arrive atleast 1/2 hr before your ressie time and then still have to hang longer. The V.I.P. seating is a joke as well, we had it twice. Fantasmic they say you must arrive by 8pm to get your seat and we did, but we were on the side and did not have a great view of it. I figured there would be a section in the middle. The only difference was we were gaurenteed a seat. BIG WHOOPIE...:mad: .and the World Showcase we had them and we told we had to sit on the ground, not even a chair supplied for us. We got there and said NO..:mad: thank you, and walked to the bridge by France and saw them just as good. Coral Reef the food was great, but it was the worst service time, ressie at 7:30 did not get seated until 8:30, the server had no personalitity at all. took his time w/everything and we got out of there by 10. The nite of the P&PP we had ressie at Tony's. !st off let me tell you that the Dining and park personnel do not communicate at all. We were told by others who went that you can get in at 4pm w/o using your park pass but your event ticket. So we made ressies for 4:45pm and we called to confirm and I asked if they would let us in early, dining said no way. So we were able change it to 5:45pm, lucky us, we get there and a woman working the gate says after telling her, said you oculd of ccame at 4pm no problem we have been letting everyone in at 4 and always have. We get to Tony's and we were seated asap after saying what happened but our other ressie wasn't cancelled, so we kept it and were done and out by 5:30pm. Talk about being rushed. We made ressie for 50's Prime Time for 8pm cause MGM had extra nite hrs. We get there and they changed it to the next nite, but they kept the Rock-n-Rolller coaster and tower of terror open....again Big Whoopie.....:mad: We planned on staying the nite to enjoy a nice nite out after dinner, so why make ressies when they change things w/o notice. So if we ever get the dinning plan we eat no later then 5pm, just in case.

mrsnj91
09-04-2007, 11:16 AM
Sorry you had such a bad time. We were taken almost always on time. Didn't seem to have a problem. I think we might have had a 10 min wait at Whispering Canyon. And I never showed 1/2 hour early:confused3 We were always there right on cue. I am sure it made for a really stressful vacation. Sorry.:hug:

Angela Kay
09-04-2007, 12:02 PM
I'm sorry things didn't go as planned. I've never gotten there 1/2 hour early either. I've always been told about 5 minutes prior.

BabyPiglet
09-04-2007, 12:28 PM
Sorry, but why don't you just be happy you're in WDW?

Personally, I'm always seated at restaurants a few minutes after arriving. I don't have experience with any VIP seating so I can't comment.

mrsnj91
09-04-2007, 12:34 PM
Sorry, but why don't you just be happy you're in WDW?

That statement on here just rubs me raw. Just because you are at WDW does not make it all peaches and cream. Things suck and there are problems and staff get nasty, etc etc etc. So because your at WDW you should be happy no matter what and shut up? How silly! The OP had some bad experiences and has the right to complain. If you don't like it....don't read the thread!

Goofy41
09-04-2007, 01:10 PM
This thread is about the DDP not WDW. I posted on the resorts page about our stay at POP, but since you mentioned it. We never used the dining plan and every time we made I ressie I was told to show up about 1/2 hr before your ressie time, so we did. I guess when they offered the free dining w/your resort stay, they over booked or it was just the service at the time, or people really eating. My overall trip was great, the weather, the parks, no lines, never waited longer then 15mins to get on rides. The shows, fireworks, transportation. Nothing worth mentioning that hasn't already been said. Good day all, when I download the pics from my camera, I'll have them posted on the resorts/theme parks pages.

TheDisneyGirl02
09-04-2007, 03:19 PM
We arrived for our one ADR at 50's Prime Time and hour early (rain was coming and we just wanted to get inside) and we were seated within 20 minutes. Although the parks were PACKED while we were there, we hardly waited at all to be seated.

Sorry about you're bad experience, OP. It does stink when things don't go well. All I can say is that WDW is just like any other work place, sometimes the memo/information doesn't get to everybody it's supposed to get to...I know it happens where I work all of the time! :)

Hopefully your next trip will be better.

TDC Nala
09-04-2007, 05:29 PM
Some of what was written here is due to the misnomer going around the boards about "VIP seating" for Illuminations.

There's no "seating" for Illuminations. You're not provided with a chair. If you want to sit, you have to be able to snag a bench by the lake, or sit on the ground, or a boulder, or a wall if there is one nearby.

I don't know where the term "seating" came from in respect to Illuminations, but it doesn't ever include a chair unless you are perhaps talking about a special event that has been booked and paid for separately.

Had two full service reservations last weekend and didn't have to wait longer than 10 minutes or so past the booking time to be seated for either of them (arrived very early for one).

Goofy41
09-06-2007, 02:07 PM
I was only doing what the Dining person who took my ressie's said to do. We ate only at a few places before and never had problems. I do expect it to be longer when you go to buffets, cause I know I can eat and like to try everything...lol.. It's the the sit downs where we had the waits. No biggie, it won't deter me from going or planning again. I didn't want to discourage or worry anyone.

kaytieeldr
09-06-2007, 02:55 PM
Forty-five minute waits are highly unusual – but as the OP discovered, not impossible. A computer predicts how often the tables in a given location are expected to turn over, and blocks seating based on that information. Once somebody makes a reservation for, say, 6 PM at a location where the average dining time is forty minutes, the systems blocks out (makes unavailable) that table until 6:45, allowing five minutes to clean and reset. If there’s a problem in the kitchen, or with an order, or the party simply chooses to linger over coffee (I know, can you believe, wasting valuable park time over Disney coffee? ;)) in real life that table doesn’t open up again until seven. If there are enough different issues, it CAN cause delays like the OP experienced.

I, too, have NEVER been told to arrive a half hour early. I can, by this time, tell the CM the entire spiel: “This is a non-smoking restaurant; arrive and check in five to ten minutes prior to your reservation time and you will be seated at the next available table for your party size at or after that time; this restaurant requires one Table Service credit (not stated if you are not using the DDP)…”

As indicated above, there is no VIP “seating”. There is VIP viewing for IllumiNations, as an apology for the inconvenience of not being able to dine where you’d intended. The construction delays affect potentially more than a thousand Guests a day. Given that the location changes from day to day, I’m not even sure most spots would have space for chairs, never mind that many.

It’s too bad it took so long to get seated at Coral Reef, but 8:30 to 10 sounds like a nice, leisurely dinner (even accounting for the annoyance of a slow server). I think leaving Epcot after the crowds is great!

Disney’s OFFICIAL policy is that your special event party tickets allow you into the Magic Kingdom only for that party. The Magic Kingdom’s actual practice is to start letting party Guests in at 4 to avoid bottlenecks at the turnstiles. When you call CRO – which is apparently what you did – they give you the information to which they have access. They can’t tell you what they don’t know. Since you had the DDP, you were staying onsite – you could have asked at Lobby Concierge, or at Guest Services anywhere (inside/outside the parks, at Downtown Disney)

I don’t understand how/why you were rushed at Tony’s. You had a reservation for 4:45 and a reservation for 5:45, and you were seated somewhere in between those two times. Since you still had the 5:45 reservation, why did you feel rushed? Was it the service? Did they make you order everything at once, and then bring all three courses at the same time? At any rate, at least for THIS meal, you didn’t have to arrive a half hour early and you didn’t have to wait 45 minutes to be seated.

I’m sure Disney changing the EMH night at the Studios was disappointing, but I’m equally sure it wasn’t done at the last minute. Did you check the paperwork you were given when you registered? One of those papers lists the EMH attractions on one side and the days/hours on the other side.

Luv2Roam
09-06-2007, 05:53 PM
Sorry you were so frustrated.

The only time I have been told to be there a half hour early is for the Fantasmic seating (at the show, not the restaurant).
I think otherwise I have always been given the same spiel of needing park tickets, arrive 5 minutes ahead of time, etc. (Not to say the OP was told any different than I have ever been. But I wonder if the confusion was over the Fantasmic seating and not ADRs in general.)
And correct it is Illuminations VIP Viewing. Either someone wrote something incorrect and the OP picked up on that or it was just a miscommunication. :confused3
This all serves as good information for others. Sorry you had such poor experiences.
I have been expecting to wait for seating during free dining. (Have ADRs) So far I have been seated in less than 10 minutes after check in at the podium. But I have not gone to the most popular spots either. (Good. But not the usual hot spots.)

jmpellet
09-07-2007, 11:45 AM
I actually found the restaurants less busy this year during free dining than last year...

a1tinkfans
09-07-2007, 04:06 PM
Just back as well. So sorry about original poster's dilemma.

We really had no such thing happen to us at all in 9 days. I think for Le Cellier we waited longest, like 15 minutes or so.
Was it luck? I don't know but our latest reservation, just once was 6:40ish. All others were 510 pm range, which is our normal dinner time.

divawife
07-18-2008, 02:28 PM
The longest wait we had was:
a) Poly breakfast with Lilo & Stitch which was at 9:20 am. We waited 40 minutes
b) CRT lunch at 2:45 pm (last lunch seating). We waited about 25 minutes

vicki_c
07-18-2008, 07:03 PM
In my opinion, I think anytime you have a dinner ADR past ...maybe 5:30, you should expect more of a wait for your table. It's not really a reservation for that time, just a promise that you will get the next available table in the queue. And if you go earlier, you usually won't have to wait more than 5 mins. People tend to eat a bit later (like 6:30 and 7) and that stretches out the waits.

Lunch is really the same - ADRs before noon, you will get seated quickly. We had a 12:40 ADR at Sci-Fi (which I normally consider a "bad" lunch time -- too late) and we had to wait 30 minutes for our table. I think if I had made it for 11:45, it would have been no issue at all.

As for the changing of the EMH at DHS - I'm sure that was frustrating, but I agree, it probably wasn't as last minute as you think. Disney changes their schedules frequently - you just have to be kind of vigilant in checking before you leave. But I understand why you were put off by it.

just another guy
07-18-2008, 07:26 PM
Forty-five minute waits are highly unusual – but as the OP discovered, not impossible. A computer predicts how often the tables in a given location are expected to turn over, and blocks seating based on that information. Once somebody makes a reservation for, say, 6 PM at a location where the average dining time is forty minutes, the systems blocks out (makes unavailable) that table until 6:45, allowing five minutes to clean and reset. If there’s a problem in the kitchen, or with an order, or the party simply chooses to linger over coffee (I know, can you believe, wasting valuable park time over Disney coffee? ;)) in real life that table doesn’t open up again until seven. If there are enough different issues, it CAN cause delays like the OP experienced.


THANK YOU!!!!

People often times make it seem like the host or seaters screwed up. Most of the times its simply people sitting at their table to long. Lets say a party of 12 have a reservation at 6:15. 12 people would require probably two tables pushed together, so if those tables become open at 5:50, the seater will save them for the reservation. Tables are held for up to 15 minutes after the said time. So, the family of 12 might show up at 6:30 because the bus took longer than they thought. After a long day they want to enjoy their meal at Ohanas, and end up sitting there for 90 minutes, finally leaving at 8pm. Overall, the family of 12 took up two tables for 2 hours and 10 minutes. Thats probably twice the average. Does that mean that two other families of 6 get bumped off the reservation list? No, it means they simply have to wait until someone else leaves.

...and PLEASE understand that the server hates this just as much as the guests sitting out in the lobby waiting. The server having those tables taken up for 2 hours will now lose out of making more tips if he had normal guest leave within the standard time frame.

Remember people, if you are done eating, there's a lobby, benches, etc somewhere, where you can finish your discussion. I've heard from some fellow disney servers I know of familes sitting up to 5 hours. Yes, that was one rare story I was told, but 2 hours dinners happen more than you would think.

Condorman
07-18-2008, 09:53 PM
I love reading trip reports from people who have had challenges at WDW, because I know the first few responses will undoubtedly apologize for that person's experience -- not Disney, not management, but other travelers who did nothing wrong. Wouldn't it be nice if that's how it worked in society? You're walking down the street, car drives by, splashes you with filthy water, and four people rush up and apologize for the car, the rainy yesterday, the potential dry cleaning bill?

When I first went to WDW after 20 years of not having been there it was truly magical. That was several years ago and I'm a little more jaded towards everything that's there; I've seen it all, eaten everywhere, had good and bad service, etc. Although it makes people's eyes roll to hear the truth, whenever I start to see things go downhill in those respective areas I remind myself of one simple fact: it's an amusement park. Maybe the greatest one on Earth, but an amusement park nonetheless. 40,000 people work at WDW and most of us only pay $30 a day to take advantage of their talents. The CMs at the ADR call center, like the hosts and hostesses at the restaurant podiums, like the guy cleaning the restrooms are all struggling to make a living at an amusement park. So if you're made to wait 20 minutes to eat, try to put it in perspective... and relax... and know that the rides and shows and attractions you are in such a hurry to see for the umpteenth time are open 365 days a year... for only $30 a day.

imthatgirl
07-18-2008, 11:32 PM
wait a minute, hold the phone...they are doing free dining right now? does it happen every year at this time? or was this bounceback?? we always plan for august, i never knew i could get it in july??????

the only thing i really wanted to add, although i know it helps you none right now, is that with the vip seating at fantasmic you do not have to sit on the right side of the stage. you can actually sit anywhere you wish if that seat is open.

TDC Nala
07-18-2008, 11:49 PM
This is a thread from last year that got resurrected somehow.

I don't think the Fantasmic package gets VIP seating, they just don't have to wait in line to get in. Their package seating has always been to the side of the theater. Some guests prefer a more central view. Last year they offered VIP Illuminations viewing for those who got reservations cancelled due to the refurbishment of what is now Teppan Edo, maybe some other places, can't remember now.

The free dining period for 2008, including the bounceback bookings, runs from about August 24 to September 27. I think in order to book earlier than that in August, you had to be living in Great Britain. You never could get free dining in July.

n2mm
07-19-2008, 07:03 AM
This thread is about the DDP not WDW. I posted on the resorts page about our stay at POP, but since you mentioned it. We never used the dining plan and every time we made I ressie I was told to show up about 1/2 hr before your ressie time, so we did. I guess when they offered the free dining w/your resort stay, they over booked or it was just the service at the time, or people really eating. My overall trip was great, the weather, the parks, no lines, never waited longer then 15mins to get on rides. The shows, fireworks, transportation. Nothing worth mentioning that hasn't already been said. Good day all, when I download the pics from my camera, I'll have them posted on the resorts/theme parks pages.

Boy how frustrating. I've had trips that have gone well and trips that don't go well. You were sure did have a case of bad MOJO when it came to dining. Glad you had a good trip overall!

imthatgirl
07-19-2008, 08:09 AM
This is a thread from last year that got resurrected somehow.

I don't think the Fantasmic package gets VIP seating, they just don't have to wait in line to get in. Their package seating has always been to the side of the theater. Some guests prefer a more central view. Last year they offered VIP Illuminations viewing for those who got reservations cancelled due to the refurbishment of what is now Teppan Edo, maybe some other places, can't remember now.

The free dining period for 2008, including the bounceback bookings, runs from about August 24 to September 27. I think in order to book earlier than that in August, you had to be living in Great Britain. You never could get free dining in July.

i never looked at the dates, i just assumed it was new. i go for free dining every year in august so i was quite confused.
i know about the fantasmic seating, maybe its not called vip but i also know you dont have to sit to the side, she could have sat anywhere in the theater. so its still worth it as you dont have to wait in the long line.

RACHELSMOM1
07-19-2008, 11:17 PM
Remember people, if you are done eating, there's a lobby, benches, etc somewhere, where you can finish your discussion. I've heard from some fellow disney servers I know of familes sitting up to 5 hours. Yes, that was one rare story I was told, but 2 hours dinners happen more than you would think.


Considering all the planning that goes into a Disney vacation, and then add a large group into the planning mix, it is understandable that these people would want to savor the moment and talk and visit with each other for a while. It is not against the rules, although 5 hours is quite a long time, but 2 hours is not unreasonable. Why should these people feel rushed? They have paid for their meals and gratuity has certainly been taken automatically. We stayed longer than 2 hours at CM when we celebrated Rachel's birthday, and we had 14 people from 4 different families who made the trip to WDW to celebrate with us. Celebrate we did!! No guilt feelings here, the people you write about waiting on the bench eventually got a seat, I am sure.

kaytieeldr
07-20-2008, 12:03 AM
Now put YOURSELF in the place of that family on the bench, because THEY'RE holding four tables for two+ hours each - 150% LONGER than the projected turnover for that table, or two and a half times as long as the expected meal length.

In addition, that projected turnover time vs. actual turnover affects the gratuity - it's not paid hourly, but by check. If a table is occupied 150% longer than projected, the server's loses any gratuity they may have gotten from the next 1.5 parties.

In simple terms: Say the projected turnover at Chef Mickey's is 45 minutes and the projected check is $100 per table. A table occupied for 45 minutes grosses the server $18 gratuity. That same table occupied for 120 minutes nets the server the same $18 gratuity, aka deprives the server of a potential additional $27 in gratuities.

By occupying multiple tables for a time period so much longer than projected, the diners likely threw off - delayed - seating for many of the subsequent Guests.

Now, I do know a group of people who visit the same restaurant twice a month, and take up a table for several hours - and who tip an amount equal to the check (and they drink while they talk - so that's a decent size check to start with).

Guilty? No. Justifiable? Also no.

RACHELSMOM1
07-20-2008, 12:44 AM
But the family on the bench will not have to wait 2+hours for a table, they will be seated at the next available table. So, what sort of time limit would you put on someone eating and enjoying themselves at Disney? Would you like to be rushed through your meal that you have paid for and planned for for maybe a year or more? I don't know anyone who would.

I will look for your response, but will not argue with you about this, but I will say that we have never felt rushed at CM or any meals. And we have waited just like everyone else to be seated at a TS meal, we are all there to have a wonderful time, so if someone else's meal takes longer than ours, so be it. We will enjoy our meals whether we are with just the 5 of us, or with 14 others, and however long the meal takes, it is just that!! We would never just intentionally sit at a table to take up time and space, but we are always there to enjoy ourselves. Nobody should feel rushed at their meals. And, yes, if they are there for 2 hours they should be able to enjoy their meal without being rushed.

kaytieeldr
07-20-2008, 01:02 AM
Right, the family on the bench will be seated at the next available table. But the longer any particular table is occupied beyond its projection, the further off it throws the entire 'reservations' system.

Extreme/simplified example: A restaurant has eight tables for four. They accept reservations based on an estimated hourly turnover. They have eight tables reserved for 5 PM, eight for 6 PM, eight for 7 PM, eight for 8 PM, eight for 9 PM - forty parties total.

All the 5:00 diners come and go as expected. The 6:00 diners arrive - four parties of four each and one party of sixteen. The four individual parties finish eating and are out by 7 PM. The party of sixteen remains seated, talking, maybe having coffee. Now, four of the 7 PM parties are seated and the other four parties wait. And wait. And wait.

The four previously-seated 7 PM diners finish by 8. The other four 7 PM parties now get seated - meaning all eight 8 PM parties are waiting for tables. The party of sixteen continues to sit, chat, socialize, have more coffee...

Now it's 9 PM. You've got sixteen parties waiting for tables. Finally the large party leaves; four of the 8 PM parties get seated; the remaing four 7 PM parties, irritated at their waits, are taking somewhat longer than projected to complete their meals. Their tables finally become available at 9:15. The other four 8 PM parties are seated. Four of those parties finally get seated at closing time; the other four, AFTER the restaurant closes for the night. The last diners finally leave just before 11 PM.

The large party's actions (socializing after dinner but at the restaurant tables) delayed 80 diners and the entire restaurant staff, up to about two hours per diner/employee.

Sandy321
07-20-2008, 01:03 AM
This is a thread from last year that got resurrected somehow.

I don't think the Fantasmic package gets VIP seating, they just don't have to wait in line to get in. Their package seating has always been to the side of the theater. Some guests prefer a more central view. Last year they offered VIP Illuminations viewing for those who got reservations cancelled due to the refurbishment of what is now Teppan Edo, maybe some other places, can't remember now.

The free dining period for 2008, including the bounceback bookings, runs from about August 24 to September 27. I think in order to book earlier than that in August, you had to be living in Great Britain. You never could get free dining in July.

:rotfl2:
thank you for your experience on the boards Nala!!

Oh, my OP - long post, run on sentences...

its WDW - stuff happens, some better, some worse - read the dis, know the lay of the land!! (ie esp 4pm entry into special ticketed events!)

Sandy321
07-20-2008, 01:04 AM
The longest wait we had was:
a) Poly breakfast with Lilo & Stitch which was at 9:20 am. We waited 40 minutes
b) CRT lunch at 2:45 pm (last lunch seating). We waited about 25 minutes

so you resurrected a year old thread...

any questions?

RACHELSMOM1
07-20-2008, 02:37 AM
Right, the family on the bench will be seated at the next available table. But the longer any particular table is occupied beyond its projection, the further off it throws the entire 'reservations' system.

Extreme/simplified example: A restaurant has eight tables for four. They accept reservations based on an estimated hourly turnover. They have eight tables reserved for 5 PM, eight for 6 PM, eight for 7 PM, eight for 8 PM, eight for 9 PM - forty parties total.

All the 5:00 diners come and go as expected. The 6:00 diners arrive - four parties of four each and one party of sixteen. The four individual parties finish eating and are out by 7 PM. The party of sixteen remains seated, talking, maybe having coffee. Now, four of the 7 PM parties are seated and the other four parties wait. And wait. And wait.

The four previously-seated 7 PM diners finish by 8. The other four 7 PM parties now get seated - meaning all eight 8 PM parties are waiting for tables. The party of sixteen continues to sit, chat, socialize, have more coffee...

Now it's 9 PM. You've got sixteen parties waiting for tables. Finally the large party leaves; four of the 8 PM parties get seated; the remaing four 7 PM parties, irritated at their waits, are taking somewhat longer than projected to complete their meals. Their tables finally become available at 9:15. The other four 8 PM parties are seated. Four of those parties finally get seated at closing time; the other four, AFTER the restaurant closes for the night. The last diners finally leave just before 11 PM.

The large party's actions (socializing after dinner but at the restaurant tables) delayed 80 diners and the entire restaurant staff, up to about two hours per diner/employee.

Wow, some people have entirely too much time on their hands, who cares already? Such analyzing, giving me a headache. Good night.

imthatgirl
07-20-2008, 09:16 AM
RACHELSMOM1...you are right it is perfectly acceptable to stay and socialize in a restaurant for as long as you wish after youve finished your meals. i have worked in restaurants for 15years, in everything from dennys(yeah i was 16)to fine dining and now back to casual dining.
restaurants are meeting places, they are not just a means to an end. i dont see how disney restaurants should fall under a different catagory. which is exactly why they do not give out reservations, what they are doing is no different then the call ahead seating policy that most casual restaurants have. you make your ADR knowing full well that they really dont know when you will be seated and thats their best guess based on the calculation already posted here.
as far as costing the server a tip. well thats part of the job. do they hate it when someone spends too much time at a table? sometimes, but soemtimes they love it. sometimes they welcome the break. servers take the job knowing its like playing the lottery, some nights you win and some you dont. luckily the nights you win happen more often, or no one would do the job.

MissyDVC
07-20-2008, 11:29 AM
Right, the family on the bench will be seated at the next available table. But the longer any particular table is occupied beyond its projection, the further off it throws the entire 'reservations' system.

Extreme/simplified example: A restaurant has eight tables for four. They accept reservations based on an estimated hourly turnover. They have eight tables reserved for 5 PM, eight for 6 PM, eight for 7 PM, eight for 8 PM, eight for 9 PM - forty parties total.

All the 5:00 diners come and go as expected. The 6:00 diners arrive - four parties of four each and one party of sixteen. The four individual parties finish eating and are out by 7 PM. The party of sixteen remains seated, talking, maybe having coffee. Now, four of the 7 PM parties are seated and the other four parties wait. And wait. And wait.

The four previously-seated 7 PM diners finish by 8. The other four 7 PM parties now get seated - meaning all eight 8 PM parties are waiting for tables. The party of sixteen continues to sit, chat, socialize, have more coffee...

Now it's 9 PM. You've got sixteen parties waiting for tables. Finally the large party leaves; four of the 8 PM parties get seated; the remaing four 7 PM parties, irritated at their waits, are taking somewhat longer than projected to complete their meals. Their tables finally become available at 9:15. The other four 8 PM parties are seated. Four of those parties finally get seated at closing time; the other four, AFTER the restaurant closes for the night. The last diners finally leave just before 11 PM.

The large party's actions (socializing after dinner but at the restaurant tables) delayed 80 diners and the entire restaurant staff, up to about two hours per diner/employee.

I for one think you are right on and glad you took the time to analyze and post this:thumbsup2

TDC Nala
07-20-2008, 11:31 AM
Not sure how an old thread turned into a debate about how long one should stay at a restaurant table, but I'm going to ask that it go back on track.

fey_spirit
07-21-2008, 10:44 AM
Let me ask you a question, and be honest at least with yourself.
You're saying "this is ok, because I did it" - but for one moment pretend it's you sitting in the lobby with 14 people and an anxious bday girl... for an hour or more because the other diners have decided that thy all paid their money and now they want to visit over dessert.

Does it still feel like a good thing?

I'm not trying to judge, just help make sure you have at least really considered how you might feel on the other side of that equation.
If you'd be fine with the wait - then by all means loiter away. :thumbsup2


Considering all the planning that goes into a Disney vacation, and then add a large group into the planning mix, it is understandable that these people would want to savor the moment and talk and visit with each other for a while. It is not against the rules, although 5 hours is quite a long time, but 2 hours is not unreasonable. Why should these people feel rushed? They have paid for their meals and gratuity has certainly been taken automatically. We stayed longer than 2 hours at CM when we celebrated Rachel's birthday, and we had 14 people from 4 different families who made the trip to WDW to celebrate with us. Celebrate we did!! No guilt feelings here, the people you write about waiting on the bench eventually got a seat, I am sure.

fey_spirit
07-21-2008, 10:50 AM
Yep why are you being snotty to someone else because you decided to read a post that was over a year old?

You didn't have to read the thread...
Much less waste more of your valuable time in responding only in an attempt to make another human being feel bad.

so you resurrected a year old thread...

any questions?

momtoBrandon&Jacob
07-21-2008, 10:52 AM
Wow, some people have entirely too much time on their hands, who cares already? Such analyzing, giving me a headache. Good night.

LOL!! :lmao: So true! This post really made me smile!

RACHELSMOM1
07-21-2008, 11:15 AM
Not sure how an old thread turned into a debate about how long one should stay at a restaurant table, but I'm going to ask that it go back on track.

:thumbsup2 Thank you, TDC Nala!!

kaytieeldr
07-21-2008, 01:45 PM
I will look for your response, Wow, some people have entirely too much time on their hands, who cares already? Such analyzing, giving me a headache. Good night. Ah, okay, then I'm confused why you indicate that you would be looking for a response.

divawife
07-21-2008, 01:58 PM
I have absolutely no idea what the heck you are talking about. I simply added the wait I experienced along with some other people. Why are you quoting me for heaven's sake? I didn't start this thread. What is your point? What questions are you referring to? I am very confused.




Originally Posted by divawife
The longest wait we had was:
a) Poly breakfast with Lilo & Stitch which was at 9:20 am. We waited 40 minutes
b) CRT lunch at 2:45 pm (last lunch seating).
We waited about 25 minutes

Sandy321 writes:
so you resurrected a year old thread...
any questions?

bytheblood
07-21-2008, 02:04 PM
wow - this is old! :rotfl:


Maybe it is best to close the thread.

kaytieeldr
07-21-2008, 05:06 PM
Yeah, sure - now that I have my simple, not a lot of thought required, common sense, REQUESTED analysis explaining why it's not reasonable to hold a restaurant table for multiple hours after the party is through dining... fine with me if the thread gets closed :teeth:

divawife
07-21-2008, 07:14 PM
I still want to hear from Sandy321 with an answer to what is her problem with my posting.

bumbershoot
07-21-2008, 08:32 PM
I still want to hear from Sandy321 with an answer to what is her problem with my posting.

It's probably just that it's such an old thread, almost a year old. Threads that are started up again aren't generally looked on with favor, on most message bords. :hug: