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tinkerone
09-02-2007, 10:17 AM
can anyone tell me what the legal drinking age is in florida?

mjkacmom
09-02-2007, 10:22 AM
21 - same as all the other states.

tinkerone
09-02-2007, 10:26 AM
21 - same as all the other states.

thanks. we are from canada and the age is 19. my neice was asking and i told her i knew a spot:rolleyes: where every question is answered in minutes and sure enough.....:yay:
thanks again.

crisi
09-02-2007, 11:21 AM
Its a strictly enforced 21 ON the ship as well (despite being in international waters). I think most ports (except Castaway Cay) she'll be able to drink OFF the ship.

Ham Ham
09-02-2007, 11:42 AM
Its a strictly enforced 21 ON the ship as well (despite being in international waters). I think most ports (except Castaway Cay) she'll be able to drink OFF the ship.

I find it odd that an 18 year old US citizen can enlist go to Iraq (possibly be wounded or die), vote, drive, marry, buy a gun but not have a Miller Lite.

dahuffy
09-02-2007, 12:21 PM
I find it odd that an 18 year old US citizen can enlist go to Iraq (possibly be wounded or die), vote, drive, marry, buy a gun but not have a Miller Lite.

Can't legally smoke either. I remember when the drinking age was lowered to 18 back in the 70's. And I also remember the kids that would legally come to class with a hangover...me being one of them them. :rolleyes:

WatchinCaptKangaroo
09-02-2007, 12:51 PM
Can't legally smoke either. I remember when the drinking age was lowered to 18 back in the 70's. And I also remember the kids that would legally come to class with a hangover...me being one of them them. :rolleyes:

Age to buy ciggs is 18.

redmomof4
09-02-2007, 12:54 PM
I find it odd that an 18 year old US citizen can enlist go to Iraq (possibly be wounded or die), vote, drive, marry, buy a gun but not have a Miller Lite.
That is such a good point, on the other hand so many high school seniors are 18 and it isn't appropriate for them to be legally drinking and possibly providing to their underage friends.

crisi
09-02-2007, 01:09 PM
I find it odd that an 18 year old US citizen can enlist go to Iraq (possibly be wounded or die), vote, drive, marry, buy a gun but not have a Miller Lite.

I would agree, but the Disboards isn't the place to change the U.S. drinking age. If you care enough, write your Senators and Reps and uncouple highway funding from state drinking age.

NikkiLovesWDW!
09-02-2007, 01:14 PM
Age to buy ciggs is 18.

It's 19 in NJ.

Horace Horsecollar
09-02-2007, 01:18 PM
The United States is unique in setting the age for drinking alcohol at 21. The most common drinking age worldwide is 18, but many countries in Western Europe have set the age at 16. The following article contains a table with the drinking age in many other countries: http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/LegalDrinkingAge.html

Disney Cruise Line has set their drinking age at 21. DCL could have set the age in international waters lower. For example, Royal Caribbean, on all cruises, used to serve alcohol to 18- to 20-year-olds if a parent (on the cruise) signed a waiver; but now they only do so for cruises sailing from European and South American countries.

It makes sense that Disney has aligned their drinking age with the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984. It's consistent with what Americans expect.

Whether the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 makes sense is a separate issue.

Ham Ham
09-02-2007, 01:29 PM
I would agree, but the Disboards isn't the place to change the U.S. drinking age. If you care enough, write your Senators and Reps and uncouple highway funding from state drinking age.

Why isn't the Disboards the place to talk about it?

mjy
09-02-2007, 01:52 PM
Why isn't the Disboards the place to talk about it?

Perhaps not DISboards as much as this particular message base. Some would say that it would not be on topic. Move the message to another area and it would probably get a lot of attention.

Back to the topic, I find it strange that on DCL, and most other lines, they hold the legal right to drink according to the age of the person on the day of boarding. So, if someone were going on a cruise and would turn 21 the first full day into the cruise, they would not be allowed to purchase alcohol because they were 20 when they boarded.

That doesn't make a lot of sense to me but I guess it is the way most lines set up their computerized information on guests.

Then again, it doesn't matter much to me either since the strongest drink that I choose to imbibe is Diet Pepsi! :)

Ham Ham
09-02-2007, 02:29 PM
Wow. I didn't know you folks we so sensitive about the drinking age.

For the record I do not consume alcohol.

I though the USA was all about free speech etc.......

crisi
09-02-2007, 03:27 PM
Why isn't the Disboards the place to talk about it?

I didn't say it wasn't the place to talk about it, I said its not the place to change it.

You can talk about it here (though it isn't terribly on topic), but its a little useless except for entertainment purposes. If you really believe it to be unfair, do something about it.

Ham Ham
09-02-2007, 05:23 PM
I didn't say it wasn't the place to talk about it, I said its not the place to change it.

You can talk about it here (though it isn't terribly on topic), but its a little useless except for entertainment purposes. If you really believe it to be unfair, do something about it.

All I was trying to point out is how you can die for your country yet your country won't let you have a drink.

Since I'm not from the US I doubt your elected officials would listen.

Babs417
09-02-2007, 07:14 PM
Thats funny:thumbsup2 :rotfl2: :lmao:

tvguy
09-02-2007, 07:27 PM
All I was trying to point out is how you can die for your country yet your country won't let you have a drink.

Since I'm not from the US I doubt your elected officials would listen.


For what it's worth, public pressure (Mothers Against Drunk Driving in large part) are responsible for the raising of the drinking age. So, can't blame the elected officials for this, it's what the people want.

misseulalie
09-02-2007, 07:32 PM
Thought I'd never do this, but....

popcorn::

yndygo
09-02-2007, 07:36 PM
I find it odd that an 18 year old US citizen can enlist go to Iraq (possibly be wounded or die), vote, drive, marry, buy a gun but not have a Miller Lite.

I agree - but until the 18-21 year olds figure out that they are a *voting* constituency and start putting pressure on the congress critters themselves, it's probably not going to change in the near future!

The irony is that the last time it went down (70s-80s) a major reason behind it was all of the not-yet 21 year old VietNam vets were figuring out that they had a voice with their votes!

Who knows? Maybe after these current wars are done, that will happen again...

tinkerone
09-02-2007, 07:45 PM
hello, original poster here. just asking a simple question, did not mean to start a big debate:lmao: got the answer i was looking for. thanks all. lets move on to the more inportant threads like tipping or smoking on board:rotfl2: . kidding
thanks again

misseulalie
09-02-2007, 07:55 PM
hello, original poster here. just asking a simple question, did not mean to start a big debate:lmao: got the answer i was looking for. thanks all. lets move on to the more inportant threads like tipping or smoking on board:rotfl2: . kidding
thanks again

Well, you asked one of the most "heated" questions. I know you didn't know. It always goes in this direction: Someone asking a simple question, it politely answered, then the we start seeing the posts about being 18/going to war/smoking/politicians etc...

Yada Yada Yada...

Now let's bring on smoking on the decks and asking for compensation for bad service:rotfl2: :thumbsup2

tinkerone
09-02-2007, 08:02 PM
:yay: Well, you asked one of the most "heated" questions. I know you didn't know. It always goes in this direction: Someone asking a simple question, it politely answered, then the we start seeing the posts about being 18/going to war/smoking/politicians etc...

Yada Yada Yada...

Now let's bring on smoking on the decks and asking for compensation for bad service:rotfl2: :thumbsup2


they are my favorite thread topics. they really get heated and debated.:teacher: love it, love it, love it:cool1:
people get right mean, although not in a bad way if you know what i mean. think i'll go hunt me some down now. see ya!

dahuffy
09-02-2007, 09:05 PM
Well, you asked one of the most "heated" questions. I know you didn't know. It always goes in this direction: Someone asking a simple question, it politely answered, then the we start seeing the posts about being 18/going to war/smoking/politicians etc...

Yada Yada Yada...

Now let's bring on smoking on the decks and asking for compensation for bad service:rotfl2: :thumbsup2

:lmao:

Ham Ham
09-02-2007, 09:06 PM
I guess debate about hand guns would be a bad idea?

Just joking. Didn't realize my little comment on the comparing what you can do at 18, but can't until your 21, would set off such an interesting exchange of ideas.

We're all here to enjoy Disney and what it has to offer but I don't think when someone introduces something a little controversial that it should be smothered.

I would love to live in the US and enjoy all you folks down south.

Even though I can, I am not planning to drink alcohol on our cruise. So if we get complimentary wine one evening I'll be happy to pass it on.

tinkerone
09-02-2007, 09:59 PM
Even though I can, I am not planning to drink alcohol on our cruise. So if we get complimentary wine one evening I'll be happy to pass it on.[/QUOTE]

ohhhh! pick me! i'll be the table to your left.:thumbsup2 yeah, i'm old enough (and then lots).:lmao:

IrishCowboy
09-02-2007, 11:38 PM
Drinking age is 18 on U.S. military bases with active duty military I.D.

Drinking age is not strictly enforced on Magic. Some servers and bartenders will serve 18+.

Lisa loves Pooh
09-03-2007, 04:31 AM
I find it odd that an 18 year old US citizen can enlist go to Iraq (possibly be wounded or die), vote, drive, marry, buy a gun but not have a Miller Lite.

It was changed years ago---

Though I saw an article recently claiming it to have been as effective as prohibition. (theory is that raising the age was a safety issue).

There is a movement out there to change the age.

Ham Ham
09-03-2007, 05:54 AM
ohhhh! pick me! i'll be the table to your left.:thumbsup2 yeah, i'm old enough (and then lots).:lmao:

I will need 2 forms of Photo ID. A valid passport and your Blockbuster card before passing the wine.

Ham Ham
09-03-2007, 05:59 AM
It was changed years ago---

Though I saw an article recently claiming it to have been as effective as prohibition. (theory is that raising the age was a safety issue).

There is a movement out there to change the age.

Lisa

What was changed years ago? Most US states I've visited have a 21 year old limit on alcohol. I don't think the movement to lower the drinking age will be too successful. It is a political hot button that most politicians won't push.

I notice though someone posted that with an active military ID they will serve you on bases if you are 18+.

tinkerone
09-03-2007, 08:12 AM
I will need 2 forms of Photo ID. A valid passport and your Blockbuster card before passing the wine.

you can also have my first born. oh, and maybe my second. and could you take my hsuband. oh wait, the mil. gee, this is just a never ending game!:rotfl2:

tvguy
09-03-2007, 12:41 PM
Drinking age is 18 on U.S. military bases with active duty military I.D.

Drinking age is not strictly enforced on Magic. Some servers and bartenders will serve 18+.

The minimum drinking age on a U.S. Military base in the U.S. is 21 except for bases within 50 miles of Canada or Mexico, where it is 18.


Here is the law.


TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART IV > CHAPTER 159 > § 2683Prev | Next § 2683. Relinquishment of legislative jurisdiction; minimum drinking age on military installations
(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Secretary concerned may, whenever he considers it desirable, relinquish to a State, or to a Commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States, all or part of the legislative jurisdiction of the United States over lands or interests under his control in that State, Commonwealth, territory, or possession. Relinquishment of legislative jurisdiction under this section may be accomplished
(1) by filing with the Governor (or, if none exists, with the chief executive officer) of the State, Commonwealth, territory, or possession concerned a notice of relinquishment to take effect upon acceptance thereof, or
(2) as the laws of the State, Commonwealth, territory, or possession may otherwise provide.
(b) The authority granted by subsection (a) is in addition to and not instead of that granted by any other provision of law.
(c)
(1) Except as provided in paragraphs (2) and (3), the Secretary concerned shall establish and enforce as the minimum drinking age on a military installation located in a State the age established by the law of that State as the State minimum drinking age.
(2)
(A) In the case of a military installation located—
(i) in more than one State; or
(ii) in one State but within 50 miles of another State or Mexico or Canada,
the Secretary concerned may establish and enforce as the minimum drinking age on that military installation the lowest applicable age.
(B) In subparagraph (A), the term “lowest applicable age” means the lowest minimum drinking age established by the law—
(i) of a State in which a military installation is located; or
(ii) of a State or jurisdiction of Mexico or Canada that is within 50 miles of such military installation.
(3)
(A) The commanding officer of a military installation may waive the requirement of paragraph (1) if such commanding officer determines that the exemption is justified by special circumstances.
(B) The Secretary of Defense shall define by regulations what constitute special circumstances for the purposes of this paragraph.
(4) In this subsection:
(A) The term “State” includes the District of Columbia.
(B) The term “minimum drinking age” means the minimum age or ages established for persons who may purchase, possess, or consume alcoholic beverages.

yndygo
09-03-2007, 01:22 PM
Lisa was referring to the Military post + ID = 18 part, I believe...

Lisa loves Pooh
09-03-2007, 01:22 PM
Lisa

What was changed years ago? Most US states I've visited have a 21 year old limit on alcohol. I don't think the movement to lower the drinking age will be too successful. It is a political hot button that most politicians won't push.

I notice though someone posted that with an active military ID they will serve you on bases if you are 18+.

changed from 18 to 21 (someone posted 1984 is when that happened--hence "years go" "many moons ago" "long time ago" or any other phrase indictating a long passage of time since).

As far as active duty--well, whenever I have been in any club (Where I was permitted to be)--signs were quite clearly posted on base that you had to be 21 to imbibe. (these bases were more than 50 miles from the border of Mexico and Canada).

the article I read was actually quite interesting on the matter and the tie in to prohibition was fascinating. Not saying that I agree with it or not--but they do have a point that in places like college campuses/towns---there is quite a bit of underground drinking going on and the law doesn't alleviate that from occurring.

Mom323
09-03-2007, 02:01 PM
The minimum drinking age on a U.S. Military base in the U.S. is 21 except for bases within 50 miles of Canada or Mexico, where it is 18.




And in the USMC
"Corps lowers drinking age to 18 in some cases"
Leading the way
But the commandant’s changes go further than any other service’s policy, decriminalizing welcome-home beer for underage Marines returning from deployment and giving commanders the authority to hold an 18-and-up kegger on base upon a unit’s return from a war zone.

And there’s no need to hide a flask in your sock before the birthday ball, because the commandant has you covered there, too. As long as your unit holds its celebration on base, commanders can drop the drinking age to 18 in the U.S. under “special circumstances,” and even authorize the possession and consumption of alcohol by underage Marines in the barracks.

The new policy defines these circumstances as “those infrequent, non-routine military occasions when an entire unit, as a group, marks at a military installation a uniquely military occasion, such as the conclusion of arduous military duty or the anniversary of the establishment of a military service or organization.”

Though the policy opens the door for Marine commanders to lower the drinking age on any service’s birthday, as well as the day their unit was formed, it applies only if the unit function is held on base, and commanders must “ensure that appropriate controls are in place to prevent endangering military service members or the surrounding community,” the message states.




http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2007/05/marine_alcohol_070511/

Inga
09-03-2007, 02:30 PM
oh I wish I had to worry about this...to be ID'd again...too much of an old bag for anyone to think I am close to 21;) Har Har

Inga

tvguy
09-03-2007, 07:28 PM
oh I wish I had to worry about this...to be ID'd again...too much of an old bag for anyone to think I am close to 21;) Har Har

Inga

I got carded for the first time when I was 48!!!!! It was a beer booth run by a charity group, and to avoid any underage issues with the state, they carded EVERYONE.....so my gray beard did not deter them from asking.

I stand corrected on the military, now if we can just get the Magic and Wonder declared military bases, and everyone on board temporary members of the service, then those 18 to 21 can drink on board.

kamgen
09-03-2007, 08:03 PM
Back to the question of drinking when you are under 21 on DCL....I have never seen anyone carded on DCL and in my experience, no one in my group has ever carried ID around. Is your age on your KTTW if you are under 21???
I am WAY over 21, but this topic caught my eye. I dont every carry a wallet or purse onboard and dont see many people who do, so how do they card you at the bar???
Just curious!:goodvibes

tvguy
09-03-2007, 09:03 PM
Back to the question of drinking when you are under 21 on DCL....I have never seen anyone carded on DCL and in my experience, no one in my group has ever carried ID around. Is your age on your KTTW if you are under 21???
I am WAY over 21, but this topic caught my eye. I dont every carry a wallet or purse onboard and dont see many people who do, so how do they card you at the bar???
Just curious!:goodvibes

It is in the system so if you try to buy an alcoholic drink on your KTTW card and are under 21, the computer will flag it. But as in any situation, someone else could buy you the drink and give it to you.

mmouse37
09-03-2007, 09:19 PM
Back to the question of drinking when you are under 21 on DCL....I have never seen anyone carded on DCL and in my experience, no one in my group has ever carried ID around. Is your age on your KTTW if you are under 21???
I am WAY over 21, but this topic caught my eye. I dont every carry a wallet or purse onboard and dont see many people who do, so how do they card you at the bar???
Just curious!:goodvibes

Yes, they can and do card on DCL....I have seen them. I have seen them card at the bars by the pool and in the clubs on Deck 3...granted it does not happen every time...but if they doubt your age they will ID you (it is not unheard of for a younger person to borrow and older persons KTTW when they go to the bar) so a form of picture id will be asked for.

And yes, your age is embedded on your KTTW but as I said....people will take an older persons KTTW card to the bar and order.

inkkognito
09-04-2007, 10:38 AM
The drinking debate really cracks me up...I say let anyone and everyone drink from infancy! I had European grandparents, and as a tiny kid I had my own stein-shaped shot glass that my grandpa would give me some beer in so I could be like him (he always had a beer at dinner). My grandma was ahead of her time, making wine spritzers with wine and 7-up, and she always gave me one too. By the time I got to high school and everyone was so excited about sneaking and drinking alcohol, my attitude was, "Been there, done that." To this day, I am a very moderate drinker...can count on one hand the times I have actually been "drunk."

crisi
09-04-2007, 10:52 AM
Yes, they can and do card on DCL....I have seen them. I have seen them card at the bars by the pool and in the clubs on Deck 3...granted it does not happen every time...but if they doubt your age they will ID you (it is not unheard of for a younger person to borrow and older persons KTTW when they go to the bar) so a form of picture id will be asked for.

And yes, your age is embedded on your KTTW but as I said....people will take an older persons KTTW card to the bar and order.

I really doubt its a huge problem for them however, since most people are travelling with their families. Someone underage would have to be travelling with an of age relative willing to loan the card, or make friends with an of age passenger willing to do the swap. The lack of social gatherings for the 19-21 year olds makes the second a little more difficult. While I sure it happens - I bet it doesn't happen often enough that Disney barkeepers feel the need to card for a real ID too often - so its probably rare to actually see.

I also think the whole thing is rather silly - being another one of those who grew up with wine and seven up in my glass at Christmas from as young as I can remember.

However, DCL does take it seriously and will fire barkeepers if they are caught serving underage guests.

A fat english gent
09-04-2007, 11:02 AM
My DD was 6 months short of her 21 birthday and they wouldn't allow her to drink a drop but did offer her a shirley temple much to her younger siblings amusement...Here in the UK it's 18 and we have some real problems with under age drinking,if you have any sence you'll leave yours at 21....:)

Inga
09-04-2007, 06:15 PM
Now that I think of it, we did the Hoop Dee Doo review last year and I was not permitted to order sangria without an ID...I had to secretly drink from my husbands...I was 37 @ the time! So Disney has become quite rigid on this stuff...

Inga

tvguy
09-04-2007, 08:23 PM
As has been posted, Disney can do whatever they want with the drinking age when in international waters, they choose to leave it at 21.

As for states going back to under 21, I won't say it won't ever happen, but the drop in fatal auto accidents involving alcohol and underaged drivers since states went back to 21 makes it very unlikely.

Heck, here in California, they're talking about not letting teens get driver's licenses until age 18 !!!!