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chewbacca
09-01-2007, 09:06 PM
DH and I are looking to go on another cruise in May 2008. I have been pricing them through different cruise lines on the AAA website. Disney cruises are almost $1000 more than other cruise lines (Carnival and Royal Caribbean) and that is not including $$ for excursions and souviners.

So I have to ask the Disney cruise experts...Why are they so darn expensive?

Thanks!

mommasita
09-01-2007, 09:15 PM
Because they are Disney, and people pay a premium for it.

I believe other lines can discount because they have many more ships to fill, as DCL only has 2 for now. Perhaps in the future, but you never know..

Having sailed other lines, I MUCH prefer Disney. Sadly, I can not always afford them, so I sneak others in there.

Lisa loves Pooh
09-01-2007, 09:23 PM
1. Supply and demand
2. Lots of people want to sail and there are only 2 boats
3. Unique product--no place else to experience "disney" on the high seas.

yndygo
09-01-2007, 09:32 PM
3 reasons:

1) It's Disney - they're in demand because they always do it better
2) # of ships v. # of cruisers - DCL only has 2 - and they sell out regularly... other cruiselines discount so deeply because they have so many ships to fill
3) You get what you pay for - the standard rooms on DCL are the size of jr. suites on other ships, the Children's programs set the standard and far surpass anyone else's, the entertainment is Broadway caliber, and the characters are onboard and easy to access - plus they don't nickel-and-dime you as much as other lines... soda from the station is free, no need to 'buy refillable cups'

There's more - but the best way to sum it up is that it's obviously worth it, or we'd all be skipping it in favor of the 'bargain' cruise.

HTH

Dale-n-Chip
09-01-2007, 10:14 PM
I agree with previous posters: Disney is what makes DCL so expensive!

We were first-time cruisers on our 4-night Wonder trip a couple of weeks ago (has it already been that long?! :sad1: ) and went with a couple friend of ours who are repeat cruisers, but not Disney people. When I made the comment to the other couple as we departed Port Canaveral "Look at all those people on inferior cruise ships!" I evidently really ticked the husband off. They spent 4 nights on the ship and met not ONE character nor did they see ONE show. The "Disney" part of DCL was completely and utterly wasted on them. I haven't asked since we got home how they enjoyed the trip--I know I will be disappointed in their answer. They spent a chunk o' change to cruise DCL with us instead of another RCCL trip--and I don't think they got their value for it. We were into doing the Disney stuff and since they didn't, we saw very little of them. When we planned it, I knew they weren't into Disney like we are, but I had no idea they would just flat out refuse to do the Disney stuff. I mean, why would you go on a Disney cruise and ignore the Disney part? :confused3

I'm sure other cruise lines are fantastic. But for us, the Disney part is what made cruising even an option.

Guess we won't be cruising with that couple again, hmmm?! :laughing:

mk

tvguy
09-01-2007, 11:13 PM
Because they are Disney, and people pay a premium for it.

I believe other lines can discount because they have many more ships to fill, as DCL only has 2 for now. Perhaps in the future, but you never know..

Having sailed other lines, I MUCH prefer Disney. Sadly, I can not always afford them, so I sneak others in there.

Short, sweet, and true.

Why does a Chevy Tahoe have a list price of $34,995 and a Cadillac Escalade have a list price of $55,640? It's the same truck. You get a bit more equiment with the Cadillac, but you get the Cadillac name. And there is nobody in the world that can tell it me it costs GM $20,700 more to build the Escalade even though it has more equipment on it. You do get some more value, but you get a great big chunk of "perceived value" that folks are willing to pay more for, same with a Disney cruise.

NEVERENOUGHWDW
09-01-2007, 11:16 PM
We have always had pretty good pricing with Disney........Another poster mentioned Carnival and Carnival is a horrid affair!!!!!!
Our favorite line right now is Holland and that is a little more pricey.

Maybe when the other ship is completed things will come down a bit....

Colorado DISers
09-01-2007, 11:28 PM
:) Just plain old supply and demand. With that said, adding more ships won't bring the prices down. It's Disney!

Heather98012
09-01-2007, 11:34 PM
Ok....please don't freak out on me here people....I'm not that into Disney. Never have been & I don't know that I ever will be. I know LOTS of people are, my dh & I are just not some of them.

We haven't cruised with Disney before, but have with other lines. Why are we willing to pay the higher price to go with Disney when we go next spring? Because of two reasons; well, one reason with two subsets:

1) We are parents now.
a) Our dd is in love with Micky Mouse (& Cinderella, & Beauty & the Beast, etc) & I know she will be the happiest toddler on the face of the earth for 7 days.
b) They have such a fantastic kids program that I won't worry about keeping her entertained while on board.

Lastly on a selfish note, I really don't want to go to the parks. I know, I know....I guess I'm weird that way. I also know that in a few more years I will HAVE to take my dd (& likely a future child) to either Disneyland or WDW, so for now....the cruise is the best compromise. Disney for her, ports I want to go to.

And while it is more money (somewhat surprisingly so), I think the wonderment my dd will have on her face will be worth every penny. Scratch that...it will be priceless.

JsMom2
09-02-2007, 03:32 AM
Ok....please don't freak out on me here people....I'm not that into Disney. Never have been & I don't know that I ever will be. I know LOTS of people are, my dh & I are just not some of them.

We haven't cruised with Disney before, but have with other lines. Why are we willing to pay the higher price to go with Disney when we go next spring? Because of two reasons; well, one reason with two subsets:

1) We are parents now.
a) Our dd is in love with Micky Mouse (& Cinderella, & Beauty & the Beast, etc) & I know she will be the happiest toddler on the face of the earth for 7 days.
b) They have such a fantastic kids program that I won't worry about keeping her entertained while on board.

Lastly on a selfish note, I really don't want to go to the parks. I know, I know....I guess I'm weird that way. I also know that in a few more years I will HAVE to take my dd (& likely a future child) to either Disneyland or WDW, so for now....the cruise is the best compromise. Disney for her, ports I want to go to.

And while it is more money (somewhat surprisingly so), I think the wonderment my dd will have on her face will be worth every penny. Scratch that...it will be priceless.


For someone who hasn't cruised DCL, you are right on! You will LOVE the cruise.

JsMom2
09-02-2007, 03:37 AM
Also remember:

1. DCL doesn't have casinos, which are a big money maker for the other lines.

2. They don't sell as much alcohol as some of the other lines - also another money maker

3. They spend more on their youth programs than other lines


That said and done, after the expenses are paid they are not shy about raising prices prices based on demand.

But I have never regretted one dime I spent on a Disney cruise!

MinnesotaMouseketeers
09-02-2007, 08:35 AM
Also remember:

1. DCL doesn't have casinos, which are a big money maker for the other lines.

2. They don't sell as much alcohol as some of the other lines - also another money maker

3. They spend more on their youth programs than other lines


That said and done, after the expenses are paid they are not shy about raising prices prices based on demand.

But I have never regretted one dime I spent on a Disney cruise!

JsMom2 has already posted two of my responses; #'s 1 and 3 and I would like to think that # two is also correct. I love the fact (as do a majority from past polls) that there is NO CASINO on board a Disney ship. I would and have paid more for this. Two Wonder cruises and a Magic cruise coming up this October.

My DS loves the Disney program for kids. In 1999 we had to pull him out kicking and screaming so we could do dinner together and he went straight back when we were done. In 2004 he looked to see what looked interesting and came and went as he pleased (as long as we knew his plans).

And if the Disney brand name means people are drinking less, I'll pay more for that also.

I also would like to know. If Disney staterooms are larger than the industry standard, does that mean they could have made them smaller, adding more onto the ship, make you feel really crowded and thus fill the ship up with more paying customers?

ch10dad
09-02-2007, 10:08 AM
Ok....please don't freak out on me here people....I'm not that into Disney. Never have been & I don't know that I ever will be. I know LOTS of people are, my dh & I are just not some of them.

We haven't cruised with Disney before, but have with other lines. Why are we willing to pay the higher price to go with Disney when we go next spring? Because of two reasons; well, one reason with two subsets:

1) We are parents now.
a) Our dd is in love with Micky Mouse (& Cinderella, & Beauty & the Beast, etc) & I know she will be the happiest toddler on the face of the earth for 7 days.
b) They have such a fantastic kids program that I won't worry about keeping her entertained while on board.

Lastly on a selfish note, I really don't want to go to the parks. I know, I know....I guess I'm weird that way. I also know that in a few more years I will HAVE to take my dd (& likely a future child) to either Disneyland or WDW, so for now....the cruise is the best compromise. Disney for her, ports I want to go to.

And while it is more money (somewhat surprisingly so), I think the wonderment my dd will have on her face will be worth every penny. Scratch that...it will be priceless.


I haven't been on other cruise lines yet, but I've asked A LOT of folks how ther fare in a comparrison and here's my take on the subject:

Disney does better on average (better than average) when it comes to crew interactions, food is comparable (Holland Amreica is also highly thought of),
kid care/programs - there is no eaqual, rooms seem to run a bit bigger on Disney for equivilent cat/class, shows: OK it's Disney, but well dont so that unless you REALLY hate all things Disney, sou'll probably enjoy them.

Disney seems to have the best embarkation/dis-embarkation process from what I've heard. They also are very good about handeling the small details. That's not to say that you can't run into a CM who's having a bad day, or a room steward who is not efficent (we have - but they were replaced abruptly in the middle of our cruise which kind of supprised & delighted us).

If/when you go DCL much of the effort is geared toward "family" events, and there are so many that you can't "do it all." If you want to hole up and get away from everyone and everything, you can do that to.

We are very aggressive when it comes to value per $ and "deal shopping." We live near a cruise ship port in Fl (but not DCL - we have to drive to get them :sad2: ). When we break down the $$ and compare we can save on base rate, but when you add in the "fun factor" for the kids and family as a whole we've found DCL works for us. However like all things YMMV...

Hope it helps.

Ray

ch10dad
09-02-2007, 10:11 AM
I also would like to know. If Disney staterooms are larger than the industry standard, does that mean they could have made them smaller, adding more onto the ship, make you feel really crowded and thus fill the ship up with more paying customers?

We've never felt "crowded" though it can get crowded at the pools at times.

Ray

NEVERENOUGHWDW
09-02-2007, 11:27 AM
:) Just plain old supply and demand. With that said, adding more ships won't bring the prices down. It's Disney!

Couldn't disagree more....look how the pricing on Cunard has dropped...afterall it's Cunard, that's what people used to say and now it is more affordable than ever.

misseulalie
09-02-2007, 12:39 PM
Same reason why hotel rooms in Vegas are cheap... The casinos and alcohol subsidize the rooms.

tinkerbellmom1
09-02-2007, 01:09 PM
We are Disney people and we have loved our 2 Disney cruises! Our kids are teenagers and love the cruises! They were never young enough to go to the smaller kid areas but they love what they get to do in the teen center.

We live in Nevada where the casinos are so we have no interest in a casino on a cruise ship. As much as we love Disney, we don't do the character visits on the cruises! I love to see the little ones with the characters and hear all the MAGICal stories on this board, but for our family, it's more the ambiance of the ships and the Magic that happens when you are together on the ships that we love!

We adore the attention that is given to the customer service on the Disney line. We've spoiled ourselves and we know it. Recently we thought we'd try another line and go on some different itineraries. Sadly, looking at prices, locations, etc. we didn't find that Disney is more expensive. As another poster stated, the Disney room size is an upgrade on other cruise ships. We're even worse than that- We only cruise in suites. Trying to find that on Norwegian or Royal Caribbean is difficult, and even when you do find suites, they aren't the same caliber and they are WAY more expensive than Disney. :scared1: Then the other lines also charge more for soda, certain dining experiences, and shore excursions so that increase their prices as do some of those items on the Disney line.

It really is a personal choice. For us, it's Disney!

jiminy579
09-02-2007, 01:44 PM
I agree with previous posters: Disney is what makes DCL so expensive!

We were first-time cruisers on our 4-night Wonder trip a couple of weeks ago (has it already been that long?! :sad1: ) and went with a couple friend of ours who are repeat cruisers, but not Disney people. When I made the comment to the other couple as we departed Port Canaveral "Look at all those people on inferior cruise ships!" I evidently really ticked the husband off. They spent 4 nights on the ship and met not ONE character nor did they see ONE show. The "Disney" part of DCL was completely and utterly wasted on them. I haven't asked since we got home how they enjoyed the trip--I know I will be disappointed in their answer. They spent a chunk o' change to cruise DCL with us instead of another RCCL trip--and I don't think they got their value for it. We were into doing the Disney stuff and since they didn't, we saw very little of them. When we planned it, I knew they weren't into Disney like we are, but I had no idea they would just flat out refuse to do the Disney stuff. I mean, why would you go on a Disney cruise and ignore the Disney part? :confused3

I'm sure other cruise lines are fantastic. But for us, the Disney part is what made cruising even an option.

Guess we won't be cruising with that couple again, hmmm?! :laughing:

mk


Even if your friends didn't get into the Disney spirit, didn't see characters or shows, they still should have noticed the differences. We have cruised Disney 3 x and RCCL 2 x, and there truly is no comparison. Cabin size, ship cleanliness, customer service from staff and waiters, ship decor and maintenance, and on and on and on. RCCL doesn't even come close to Disney in any of these areas. Our last RCCL cruise will definitely be our last. In my opinion they are horrid. The extra $$$ for Disney is well worth it!!

captchris
09-02-2007, 02:46 PM
The bottom line here is that everyone is entitled to their opinion.

DCL's prices for my family went up $700 from 2006 to 2007. This is for same category, on the same week for a 7 day.

Now that I price 2008 it is now nearly $1000 more than my 2006 cruise for a similar week in the same category. The category is a Category 10.

I know there are those that believe that the "Disney" magic adds to the cruise. I agree with this to a point. Having a room that is slightly larger than the industry standard is nice. The Magic and Wonder are now approaching 10 and 9 years old respectively and do not have some of the family friendly features that are on the Voyager and Freedom Class ships.

My children enjoyed the character experiences, but disliked the Oceaneer's Club. The dining staff were awesome, and their service was amazing. Having said that, our next cruise will be on one of RCI's new Freedom Class ships. I enjoyed our DCL cruise very much, but the increased prices, limited availability of 7 days cruises makes RCI and much more attractive option. Especially, at a savings of nearly $1000 for our family.

ch10dad
09-02-2007, 05:21 PM
The bottom line here is that everyone is entitled to their opinion.

DCL's prices for my family went up $700 from 2006 to 2007. This is for same category, on the same week for a 7 day.

Now that I price 2008 it is now nearly $1000 more than my 2006 cruise for a similar week in the same category. The category is a Category 10.

I know there are those that believe that the "Disney" magic adds to the cruise. I agree with this to a point. Having a room that is slightly larger than the industry standard is nice. The Magic and Wonder are now approaching 10 and 9 years old respectively and do not have some of the family friendly features that are on the Voyager and Freedom Class ships.

My children enjoyed the character experiences, but disliked the Oceaneer's Club. The dining staff were awesome, and their service was amazing. Having said that, our next cruise will be on one of RCI's new Freedom Class ships. I enjoyed our DCL cruise very much, but the increased prices, limited availability of 7 days cruises makes RCI and much more attractive option. Especially, at a savings of nearly $1000 for our family.

Price is a factor with us as well. The out of pocket cost has gone up roughly $800-$1000 since we've started crusing DCL. So far we've stayed with Disney because we've ALWAYS had a good time, the kids love it, and I've heard many conflicting reports from travelers on other lines...

...however our enthusiasm (many several of our friends that love DCL) is waning due to the harder hit on the wallet. Some of our friends have already jumped ship to other lines and claim to be just as happy with food, clubs, etc...

There may be a time when our DCL trips become less frequent or stop all together. :sad2: We love the experience and the service, but you've got to stop and look at the math. :teacher: We've already started telling the kids that even though we've gone every year for almost a decade, that it's not a given that we will go again.:sad1: As the prices climb our cabin may very well become avalible...:sad1: :sad2: :sad1: :sad1:

tvguy
09-02-2007, 05:35 PM
Same reason why hotel rooms in Vegas are cheap... The casinos and alcohol subsidize the rooms.

You pay for your hotel room in Vegas? Don't let my mom see that, if the room isn't free, and doesn't include a food credit, and a cash bonus, she won't go to Vegas, Tahoe or Reno. She goes at least once a month.

julielouhoo
09-02-2007, 09:04 PM
We have only sailed RCI and DCL. I will give you my most honest pros and cons of the differences. Disney is Disney, yes, that's true. The shows are far superior. Really magical and first class. The cabins are much larger and the split bathrooms are genius. I think the programming is more family oriented on Disney. Also, because of the expense, you don't get the college/spring break/boose cruise atomosphere that is present on other cruise lines. I have sailed the Magic and the Wonder and both are really beautiful ships.
Having said that, I have always had as wonderful service on RCCL. Spring break will be my first RCCL sailing with my children, so I don't have any personal experience with their kids clubs, but on our first Disney cruise, we met several people who said their older children (10+) were much happier with the children's programming on Royal Caribbean. I just came off the Wonder and one thing I really didn't like was that all teens, 13-17 are together. There is a huge difference in maturity and experience between a 13 year old and a 17 year old. My 13 year old daughter is 5 ft 5 and very pretty. She really was uncomfortable with how many 17 year olds continually hit on her. On RCCL, the 13 & 14 year olds are together and then the 15-17 year olds are together, which is much more appropriate.
At the end of this cruise, at the farewell party, a woman I met noticed I was by myself and asked where my children were. I told her they really weren't into the characters anymore, but I loved the fond farewell. She asked me why in the world I would pay to sail Disney, if my children weren't interested in the characters. I thought she must have missed out on a lot during the cruise because I find the Disney Cruise is so much more than characters.

Babs417
09-02-2007, 09:19 PM
Just as the saying goes, Yor pay for what you get!:thumbsup2 :cutie:

Sully
09-02-2007, 09:21 PM
Quality. I think more things are included in the price than other cruise lines. Free soda. You do have to like Disney. To sum it up, DW's aunt took us on a 15 night Princess cruise rt trip from LA to Hawaii. On the comment card, we mentioned that everyone from the Captain on down needs to be trained by Disney.

yndygo
09-02-2007, 10:14 PM
Ok....please don't freak out on me here people....I'm not that into Disney. Never have been & I don't know that I ever will be. I know LOTS of people are, my dh & I are just not some of them.

We haven't cruised with Disney before, but have with other lines. Why are we willing to pay the higher price to go with Disney when we go next spring? Because of two reasons; well, one reason with two subsets:

1) We are parents now.
a) Our dd is in love with Micky Mouse (& Cinderella, & Beauty & the Beast, etc) & I know she will be the happiest toddler on the face of the earth for 7 days.
b) They have such a fantastic kids program that I won't worry about keeping her entertained while on board.

Lastly on a selfish note, I really don't want to go to the parks. I know, I know....I guess I'm weird that way. I also know that in a few more years I will HAVE to take my dd (& likely a future child) to either Disneyland or WDW, so for now....the cruise is the best compromise. Disney for her, ports I want to go to.

And while it is more money (somewhat surprisingly so), I think the wonderment my dd will have on her face will be worth every penny. Scratch that...it will be priceless.

You know, I'm with you on the parks... but I'm a touch agoraphobic, and not really into most of the rides, to be honest.

The HUGE thing for us is the effect it has on my DD (4 1/2) - and the ships are a FABULOUS option for her age compared to the parks.
1 1/2 lines for the teacup ride vs. 5 min waits to meet any princess? Easy call.

I love Disney myself - but haven't been to a park since 1985 when my Brother used to work at WDW.
I know we'll have to go to them in a few years - for her sake - but for now, the ship is the BEST option.

crzy4magic
09-02-2007, 10:17 PM
Disney is a niche player in the cruise ship industry, as such they do not need - or desire - to give volume discounts to keep the ships full. They have a VERY sophisticated pricing model - anyone who has tried to book a highly desired cruise on the first day of availability has seen prices for the same cabin skyrocket as the ship fills up. This is identical the what the Disney resorts do - they have a price and that is what they charge. In high season, it aligns with the competion outside of DisneyWorld. Off Season - you can do much better at a variety of properties off site.

But - DCL is the one part of Disney that I don't feel is raping my wallet. I detest going to the theme parks - not just for the ticket price, but for how your wallet is gouged for things that are necessary, like food and drink. DCL has chosen a different course - except for Palo and movie snacks - all food is inclusive (try that on NCL or RCCL!), Soda is free if you are will to walk to Deck 9 (Tom McAlpin, President of DCL at a Q/A session on the Magic said that for DCL it is under a $10 million a year cost, for the other cruise lines with a dozen or two dozen ships it would be to big a revenue hit), the Disney ships have the best separation of kids/teens/adult only of any ship out there (DCL is actually trying to cater to travellers without children because, according to McAlpin, they have not been able to accept reservations for all cabins to families because they had exceeded the capacity of the kids clubs - that is why Ocean Quest was built on the Magic).

The other thing you get on DCL is that DCL treats the crew members better - crew members want to get to Disney. On our Panama Cruise our assistant server had been on Princess and Celebrity as a crew member - she loves Disney and doesn't want to leave. Our Cabin Stewart had sailed on Crystal and Princess - he wanted to be on Disney and intended to stay as long as he sailed. When you have crew that is treated well and wants to stay - they are happy and treat us - the passengers - better. And they do like the passengers - having twins we are an easier to remember family - I ran into servers and cabin stewarts from past cruises and they wanted to say hi - they came to our table to say hello and see how the boys had grown. That sense that we have on the Magic makes us want to go back again.

And yes - since I don't gamble - not having the casino is a major plus!

Andrew DEREK UK
09-03-2007, 03:13 AM
Disney is a niche player in the cruise ship industry, as such they do not need - or desire - to give volume discounts to keep the ships full. They have a VERY sophisticated pricing model - anyone who has tried to book a highly desired cruise on the first day of availability has seen prices for the same cabin skyrocket as the ship fills up. This is identical the what the Disney resorts do - they have a price and that is what they charge. In high season, it aligns with the competion outside of DisneyWorld. Off Season - you can do much better at a variety of properties off site.

But - DCL is the one part of Disney that I don't feel is raping my wallet. I detest going to the theme parks - not just for the ticket price, but for how your wallet is gouged for things that are necessary, like food and drink. DCL has chosen a different course - except for Palo and movie snacks - all food is inclusive (try that on NCL or RCCL!), Soda is free if you are will to walk to Deck 9 (Tom McAlpin, President of DCL at a Q/A session on the Magic said that for DCL it is under a $10 million a year cost, for the other cruise lines with a dozen or two dozen ships it would be to big a revenue hit), the Disney ships have the best separation of kids/teens/adult only of any ship out there (DCL is actually trying to cater to travellers without children because, according to McAlpin, they have not been able to accept reservations for all cabins to families because they had exceeded the capacity of the kids clubs - that is why Ocean Quest was built on the Magic).

The other thing you get on DCL is that DCL treats the crew members better - crew members want to get to Disney. On our Panama Cruise our assistant server had been on Princess and Celebrity as a crew member - she loves Disney and doesn't want to leave. Our Cabin Stewart had sailed on Crystal and Princess - he wanted to be on Disney and intended to stay as long as he sailed. When you have crew that is treated well and wants to stay - they are happy and treat us - the passengers - better. And they do like the passengers - having twins we are an easier to remember family - I ran into servers and cabin stewarts from past cruises and they wanted to say hi - they came to our table to say hello and see how the boys had grown. That sense that we have on the Magic makes us want to go back again.

And yes - since I don't gamble - not having the casino is a major plus!

Very well written and informative post.

Lisa loves Pooh
09-03-2007, 05:18 AM
Another thing I forgot--other cruise ships have casino's that supplement your bill. They can charge less b/c they have an extra profit source. Now you may or may not gamble...but without that revenue, Disney has always had to charge a bit more just for the lack of a casino.

misseulalie
09-03-2007, 08:04 AM
You pay for your hotel room in Vegas? Don't let my mom see that, if the room isn't free, and doesn't include a food credit, and a cash bonus, she won't go to Vegas, Tahoe or Reno. She goes at least once a month.

:rotfl2:

She sounds like my uncle with the Casinos on the Indian reservations in MN. Free hotels, all you can eat prime rib, free shows...

He thinks they give it to him for free, he doesn't realize he had to gamble/lose hundreds of dollars (maybe thousands?) to get his "free" stuff.:sad2:

NancyIL
09-03-2007, 09:36 AM
I cruise primarily for the destination rather than the ship or cruiseline, and I book by price. For whatever reasons DCL charges more than the competition, price is the main reason DCL hasn't been my cruiseline of choice for the Caribbean cruises I have booked. I've been on Holland America, Royal Caribbean, and Princess, and enjoyed them all. I'll be on my first Disney cruise in January with my mom - and that's because she lives 15 minutes from Port Canaveral, wants to go on another cruise, and can no longer go alone. This time the cruise is definitely not for the destination, but for the ship. I booked a date when Dreams Unlimited had group pricing, so the price wasn't too hard to swallow. :)

I have 3 other cruises booked for 2008, in addition to the 4-day DCL cruise in January, and price was definitely a factor in making my choices. I'm going to the southern Caribbean in March on RCI Adventure of the Seas with 2 of my kids, to Alaska in July on HAL Veendam with a friend, and to Italy and Croatia in October on RCI Legend of the Seas with my husband. The southern Caribbean cruise was truly a steal at the time I booked it in May, especially since the cruise ends on Easter Sunday. (The price has since doubled for the inside cabin I booked.) Even Alaska is reasonable for a cruise in peak season - comparable in price to a 7-day DCL Caribbean cruise during value season.

I briefly booked both Disney Panama Canal cruises and the Mediterranean, but cancelled due to other plans. Instead we went on a Baltic cruise in 2005 (RCI), to Alaska in 2007 (Princess), and my son's high school graduation will be right after the westbound Panama Canal cruise ends in 2008 - so I need to be home then. One of these days I hope to go on a Disney cruise for a great destination, as well as for the ship. However, I have NO plans to abandon other cruiselines.

roliepolieoliefan
09-03-2007, 09:51 AM
Short, sweet, and true.

Why does a Chevy Tahoe have a list price of $34,995 and a Cadillac Escalade have a list price of $55,640? It's the same truck. You get a bit more equiment with the Cadillac, but you get the Cadillac name. And there is nobody in the world that can tell it me it costs GM $20,700 more to build the Escalade even though it has more equipment on it. You do get some more value, but you get a great big chunk of "perceived value" that folks are willing to pay more for, same with a Disney cruise.

Thanks TV guy, thats an analogy I can use on DH that he would understand. ;)

thomprod
09-03-2007, 10:15 AM
The quality of the children's programming has already been mentioned. I believe this is a large part of the value we receive when we book a Disney cruise. There are two parts to this: First, providing parents with some adult time while their children are being entertained and engaged in a safe and fun environment which is much more than just free babysitting. Second, there are many activities that the whole family can enjoy together, including recreation, movies, shows and dinner entertainment. Providing all these benefits would cost quite a bit of money at home. It would be a logistical nightmare to schedule so many activities in such a short time, but this value is included in the price of your cruise.

Ted C
09-03-2007, 12:00 PM
Most of these increases have to do with fuel costs. It has severely affected everybody in the entertainment industry. I'm in the restaurant business on a major scale and I can tell you the price of food in the last couple of years has skyrocketed in every area. We are paying $1.50 more a pound for cheeses, $2.50 more a pound for certain beef, $1.50 more a pound for chicken, etc. I've never seen anything like it. We've had to raise prices three times in the last couple of years to try to stay up. Before that we hadn't raised prices for nearly three years. Folks, this fuel cost is getting everybody. You won't see it as clearly being a normal consumer but when you start buying thousands of pounds of product it becomes very apparent...

I have no problem with Disney charging more due to the circumstances AS LONG as the quality, quantity, and level of service remains the same. The other lines will have to cut costs somewhere and if it's not in increased costs to us then it will be in quality of food and quantity/quality of service provided. However, that being said, no doubt the people who drop all their money at the casinos will certainly help subsidize the issue. Of course when it's all said and done they paid more than a Disney cruise, in most cases, once you add up toal monies spent.

Point being, we're in a whole other world now that gas is $3.00 per gallon plus. It will have devastating effects on the whole economy if it stays here for too long. We had better get used to paying more for everything because it's probably not going to change, except for the worse, for quite a while. I would bet DCL is making no more profit than they were 2-years a go. I know we're not in our business.


Side note:
I'm praying for the hurricane victims of Hondurus and for the off shore wells in Mexico. If Felix does his thing then many lives will be lost and our gas will go to $5.00 plus a gallon for sure.

tvguy
09-03-2007, 01:30 PM
:rotfl2:

She sounds like my uncle with the Casinos on the Indian reservations in MN. Free hotels, all you can eat prime rib, free shows...

He thinks they give it to him for free, he doesn't realize he had to gamble/lose hundreds of dollars (maybe thousands?) to get his "free" stuff.:sad2:


Even though mom only takes $40, I suspect they still make a little money on her every trip even with the $10 cash back, hotel room, and a couple of meals.

101DalmFan
09-03-2007, 02:22 PM
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However, that being said, no doubt the people who drop all their money at the casinos will certainly help subsidize the issue. Of course when it's all said and done they paid more than a Disney cruise, in most cases, once you add up toal monies spent.

...snip...


Hit the nail on the head there! The price for the cruise itself is just part of the cost of vacation. I remember several years back when my BIL commented, upon returning from a Med cruise with his family (wife and three teenagers), how high his bill was for just soda pop! And he never even mentioned how much he and his DW dropped in the casino, but I'm sure they dropped quite a bit.

You know, I can't complain about the price of a Disney cruise, I really can't. Our upcoming 7-night cruise, which I booked while onboard last year (Cat 9), is costing us just over $300/night. If I go to an all-inclusive resort with comparable dining and entertainment options, I know realistically I'm going to drop likely about $275/night, and even all-inclusive doesn't usually mean the wide variety of food options -- like free ice cream, free burgers by the pool, etc -- available on DCL. And I won't get free soda pop, I won't get a casino-free environment, I likely won't get an adults-only pool area and coffee lounge. I also likely won't get a mostly smoke-free environment. I won't get a bar environment where you're not made to feel guilty if you're not downing alcoholic beverages (DH and I do drink, but rarely since I started on meds where I shouldn't really be imbibing). I won't get free movies. I won't get to sleep in the same bed each night and yet still travel from country to country. I won't get a split bathroom so that if someone is having a shower before dinner I can still brush my teeth etc. If I need to keep milk or juice cold I likely won't have any kind of fridge in my room. And I sure won't get the fun interaction of the Disney characters -- which, for me, is a HUGE part of the enjoyment of the cruise.

On my cruise last year -- my first ever :) -- I travelled with a girlfriend who has been on at least a dozen cruises, but this was her first DCL adventure. She was very impressed -- with the size of the cabins and the storage space offered, with the dining rotation system, with the "bar fridge" in the room, with the split bathrooms, with the adults-only areas, with the whole Castaway Cay experience. She said to me afterwards that she has no interest in a Caribbean cruise again, she's been so many times, but still she would jump at the chance for another DCL cruise even back to the Caribbean :)

Andrew DEREK UK
09-03-2007, 02:32 PM
One thing DCL are having to reconsider is using Port Canaveral, as this now adds costs, mainly fuel costs to the Caribbean cruises.

Most cruise lines use Miami or Port Everglades in Fort Lauderdale, and therefore they have to travel far less to the Bahamas and the Caribbean.

DCL wanted PC, as its only an hours drive away from WDW, but changing to a port lower down the coast would save the Magic and Wonder considerable running costs.