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Pigsty333
08-25-2007, 10:22 AM
http://www.local6.com/news/13966943/detail.html

Witnesses Sought In Moms' Disney Line Fight

POSTED: 11:38 am EDT August 24, 2007
UPDATED: 11:43 am EDT August 24, 2007

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Detectives investigating a fight between two mothers while in line at a tea cup ride at Walt Disney World in May are now asking for witnesses to come forward if they saw the incident.

Victoria Walker, 52, of Alabama, was arrested on suspicion she beat and choked Aimee Krause of Clermont because she apparently believed Krause was allowed ahead of her while waiting to board the "Mad Tea Party" ride.

Witnesses said Walker became enraged after the victim and her children were allowed ahead of her at the "Mad Tea Party' ride in May.

Walker was questioned after the incident and allowed to return to her Alabama home.

However, when a judge noticed how severe the victim's injuries were, he signed an arrest warrant for Walker.

It took deputies nearly two months to catch up with the woman but she was picked up on a warrant in Alabama and transported back to Orange County.

She bonded out of jail shortly after her arrest.

Investigators are asking any witnesses to the event call the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

zacharybsmom
08-25-2007, 10:56 AM
http://www.local6.com/news/13966943/detail.html

Witnesses Sought In Moms' Disney Line Fight

POSTED: 11:38 am EDT August 24, 2007
UPDATED: 11:43 am EDT August 24, 2007

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Detectives investigating a fight between two mothers while in line at a tea cup ride at Walt Disney World in May are now asking for witnesses to come forward if they saw the incident.

Victoria Walker, 52, of Alabama, was arrested on suspicion she beat and choked Aimee Krause of Clermont because she apparently believed Krause was allowed ahead of her while waiting to board the "Mad Tea Party" ride.

Witnesses said Walker became enraged after the victim and her children were allowed ahead of her at the "Mad Tea Party' ride in May.

Walker was questioned after the incident and allowed to return to her Alabama home.

However, when a judge noticed how severe the victim's injuries were, he signed an arrest warrant for Walker.

It took deputies nearly two months to catch up with the woman but she was picked up on a warrant in Alabama and transported back to Orange County.

She bonded out of jail shortly after her arrest.

Investigators are asking any witnesses to the event call the Orange County Sheriff's Office.


Line rage at Disney...next on Jerry Springer:happytv:
How sad for the families that were involved and/or witnessed this.

jonestavern
08-25-2007, 11:05 AM
I am really curious as to why witness names & info wasn't taken at the scene.

Good luck finding anyone who wants to come forward even on the off chance they should find out witnesses are needed!


Jean

I Love Pluto
08-25-2007, 12:14 PM
[QUOTE=jonestavern;20479588]I am really curious as to why witness names & info wasn't taken at the scene.

I agree. Someone didn't do his/her job.

Gooofy-Blade
08-25-2007, 12:21 PM
yea, I saw it all..........you see first this Beauty comes by with these 7 short miners following her...singin' some Hi-Ho song....then that first lady looks over those dwarfs and when she did, that second lady, she cuts right in front of her....well, next, they went to swingin' at each other...then a couple of clueless dudes named Tweedle Dee and Dum go runnin' for cover and some big tall Goofy dog tries to jump betwixt the two women and stop them. Next this Buzz dude flies in to save the Goofy character and starts hollerin' that he is gonna kick their ***** to infinity and beyond. Before I know it some Pirates were there and they broke into a bigger fight. The next thing you know there was an innocent little bear all Poohed out on the ground with honey split all over the place. I figured I'd try to leave because I didn't want to be no witness to it...the commotion sounded like a freight train rumbling by and then I realized it was just some Mickey mouse with some mouse chick with him........unbelievably the Mouse grabbed the instigator of it all and tossed her all the way to Main Street. It was just then that a bunch of hillbilly bears had just finished their jamboree and started to tearing at the ole gal. By now she had enough and was runnin' for the front gates. The last thing I saw was a bunch of big ole parade brooms sweepin' her right out. I turned back around and low and behold some Prince Charming fellow had scooped up the injured lady and took her to the castle and there she stayed all night.

Of course I heard she got tossed out cause some family had been selected to take her place for the evening!

Other than that, I didn't see a thing, officer.

mcqueengroupie
08-25-2007, 12:25 PM
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
Luv that!!!!:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

RVGal
08-25-2007, 12:37 PM
Now THAT would be a Disney-style throwdown. :lmao: :lmao:

We like to think of Disney as a place where we are insulated from the real world. The problem is, the real world just keeps buying tickets and coming anyway. Sigh.

Kathi OD
08-25-2007, 01:01 PM
We like to think of Disney as a place where we are insulated from the real world. The problem is, the real world just keeps buying tickets and coming anyway. Sigh.

Too true! :(

the Dark Marauder
08-25-2007, 02:50 PM
yea, I saw it all..........you see first this Beauty comes by with these 7 short miners following her...singin' some Hi-Ho song....then that first lady looks over those dwarfs and when she did, that second lady, she cuts right in front of her....well, next, they went to swingin' at each other...then a couple of clueless dudes named Tweedle Dee and Dum go runnin' for cover and some big tall Goofy dog tries to jump betwixt the two women and stop them. Next this Buzz dude flies in to save the Goofy character and starts hollerin' that he is gonna kick their ***** to infinity and beyond. Before I know it some Pirates were there and they broke into a bigger fight. The next thing you know there was an innocent little bear all Poohed out on the ground with honey split all over the place. I figured I'd try to leave because I didn't want to be no witness to it...the commotion sounded like a freight train rumbling by and then I realized it was just some Mickey mouse with some mouse chick with him........unbelievably the Mouse grabbed the instigator of it all and tossed her all the way to Main Street. It was just then that a bunch of hillbilly bears had just finished their jamboree and started to tearing at the ole gal. By now she had enough and was runnin' for the front gates. The last thing I saw was a bunch of big ole parade brooms sweepin' her right out. I turned back around and low and behold some Prince Charming fellow had scooped up the injured lady and took her to the castle and there she stayed all night.

Of course I heard she got tossed out cause some family had been selected to take her place for the evening!

Other than that, I didn't see a thing, officer.

Best. Post. Ever.

seashoreCM
08-25-2007, 03:36 PM
Would the prosecution fly the witnesses down to Orlando and while there the witnesses could, after testifying, enjoy some more days at Disney?

It would be hard to get anyone to come forward if they had to get themselves to Orlando to answer a summons on their own.

Disney hints: http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

mb1976
08-25-2007, 05:20 PM
Wow, that gal must have really been beat up for them to spend to money to bring her back.

bytheblood
08-25-2007, 06:46 PM
That whole story is just sickening. The Walker lady needs to spend some time in jail sharing a room with Bertha!!!

Gooofy-Blade
08-25-2007, 07:29 PM
[QUOTE=seashoreCM;20482948]Would the prosecution fly the witnesses down to Orlando and while there the witnesses could, after testifying, enjoy some more days at Disney?

Well.....like I said earlier, I saw it all but I ain't saying much....the authorities done contacted me cause somebody on these here Disboards snitch me. Anyway, the court case looks strong...kinda like an Oklahoma tornado or Eastern Kentucky divorce: either way somebody's losin' a housetrailer. But I digress.... yep, they promised to fly me down...some young boy in green tights is flyin' me half way and then some Arab boy called Aladdin is gonna pick me up on a big ole' rug. They promised to put me in temporary housing in a log house called the Lodge.

I'll let ya'll know how it turns out. I like the idea of a cell with Big Bertha...:scared:

Spectro is #1
08-25-2007, 08:40 PM
I thought I had read somewhere that Tigger was a witness so they didn't need anybody else's statement. But it turned out he was discredited due to allegations of a shady criminal past including molestation and assault. Now authorities need to hunt down other witnesses to build a case.

If I remember the story correctly her defence involves taking the word MAD literally and it is Disney's fault for her actions because if they didn't want people to get mad they shouldn't call the attraction the MAD Tea Party.

Rhonda
08-25-2007, 09:00 PM
I thought I had read somewhere that Tigger was a witness so they didn't need anybody else's statement. But it turned out he was discredited due to allegations of a shady criminal past including molestation and assault. Now authorities need to hunt down other witnesses to build a case.

:lmao:

Indianadisneyfan
08-25-2007, 09:51 PM
[QUOTE=jonestavern;20479588]I am really curious as to why witness names & info wasn't taken at the scene.

I agree. Someone didn't do his/her job.

Do you really think people are going to hang around and give statements. I'm sure the line cleared out, they are on the way to ride the tea cups. I bet they said " We don't have time to give statements we have rides to go on" and off they went.

Spectro is #1
08-25-2007, 10:00 PM
I did some more research and found out that another witness did come forward and he too was discredited. It sees a one Donald Fauntleroy Duck was there and did see what happened. However during the investigation it was discovered that Mr. Duck was not wearing any pants at the time and therefore became a liability to the prosecution's case and as a result, was released. I will continue my fact finding mission and report back here what I discover.
Good bye for now, I am off to Google!

Dolce27
08-25-2007, 11:44 PM
I am really curious as to why witness names & info wasn't taken at the scene.

Good luck finding anyone who wants to come forward even on the off chance they should find out witnesses are needed!


Jean

There are two separate threads on this board in regards to this case – sadly I can’t find them or I’d link them so you could read everything.

The first thread was posted at the time this occurred. For some reason Disney didn’t immediately call the police and the victim and her friend was extremely upset over how Disney handled the situation. It sounded as if it was being blown off by Disney. If I recall correctly, most people on the DIS – based on very little information since the police were not really involved in this at first and we were only getting a little info from the victim herself – I recall the general consensus on this board was negative towards the victim – basically saying that she must be entirely at fault (being a line cutter) and was blowing the ordeal out of proportion. Again, this is what I recall from the original thread and when the second thread was posted months later I unsuccessfully attempted to search for the original thread to see if my recollections were correct.

A few months later (ok, I don't recall the exact time frame this has all occured in), when the judge issued the arrest warrant for the attacker, a new thread was started and posted on by people who either a) wasn’t a part of the original thread or b) since there was time in-between when the incident took place and when the judge filed the arrest warrant didn’t realize that it was the same case. By then we were given a little more information such as the victim was just following CM’s instructions that caused her to be a line cutter and the injuries were more severe than what was originally made of them by the media. I recall the posts on here being much more positive to the victim with that new information.

Now we have this third thread. If anyone is really good at searching – could you find the other two threads and tie this all in together? Jonestavern – I’m sure that the original thread has enough info to answer exactly why names and witnesses weren’t given at the time of the incident as that thread contains discussions based upon what little information was given out at that time of the incident.

Spectro is #1
08-26-2007, 12:43 PM
yea, I saw it all..........you see first this Beauty comes by with these 7 short miners following her...singin' some Hi-Ho song....then that first lady looks over those dwarfs and when she did, that second lady, she cuts right in front of her....well, next, they went to swingin' at each other...then a couple of clueless dudes named Tweedle Dee and Dum go runnin' for cover and some big tall Goofy dog tries to jump betwixt the two women and stop them. Next this Buzz dude flies in to save the Goofy character and starts hollerin' that he is gonna kick their ***** to infinity and beyond. Before I know it some Pirates were there and they broke into a bigger fight. The next thing you know there was an innocent little bear all Poohed out on the ground with honey split all over the place. I figured I'd try to leave because I didn't want to be no witness to it...the commotion sounded like a freight train rumbling by and then I realized it was just some Mickey mouse with some mouse chick with him........unbelievably the Mouse grabbed the instigator of it all and tossed her all the way to Main Street. It was just then that a bunch of hillbilly bears had just finished their jamboree and started to tearing at the ole gal. By now she had enough and was runnin' for the front gates. The last thing I saw was a bunch of big ole parade brooms sweepin' her right out. I turned back around and low and behold some Prince Charming fellow had scooped up the injured lady and took her to the castle and there she stayed all night.

Of course I heard she got tossed out cause some family had been selected to take her place for the evening!

Other than that, I didn't see a thing, officer.

OK. At first I was very skeptical of this story. But after an extensive investigation I believe Goofy-Blade was there and should be subpoenaed. I have found that all those that were later identify in this account were there but are unable to provide testimony.
First, apparently the woman was identified as Ms. Snow White. The miners too were questioned but admitted they only knew what they had heard in the lunch room and were unaware of the incident while it was accruing. That leaves Goofy, Tweedle Dee and Dum, and the Pirates. The individual identified in the story as “Buzz” is believed to be Buzz Light-year. However the statement given indicates that Mr. Light-year arrived too late to offer any testimony as to how the Malay started. Papers released by authorities indicated that Goof’s , as well as Tweedle Dee and Dum’s statement was determined to be “unusable” Although individuals who are mentally impaired are not excluded from testifying after an in-depth interview all three were determined to be “mentally incompetent” to testify. Little details were released but it appears their testimony was at the least contradictory and at times incoherent.
The pirates that were fingered as being there and might have seen something of value unfortunately went back the Caribbean. Documents have been filed to extradite them but the process is taking longer than expected because most could not be identified by name. Many were known simply by aliases.
As mentioned in the witness account another victim was identified. Winnie The Pooh could only produce the address of Mr. Sanders and was not much help. According to the transcript Mr. Pooh spent several hour tapping his forehead and muttering “think, think, think” only stopping to ask for honey.
All others mentioned arrived too late to offer any credible testimony as to the timeline of the events leading up to the incident.
Goofy-Blade you really should come forward and help investigators sort this mess out.
It would be the right thing to do.

dopeydiva
08-26-2007, 02:24 PM
I just love, love,love this site. I've read posts about being in need of witnesses. I leave in two weeks with my 4 yr old twins. As a mother, if my kids would have witnessed something like this and this 'wicked witch' ruined the day for us, I would've gone Buzz all over her ****. I'm so glad someone here has the talent to make us all chuckle a bit over something really sad. Your post is absolutely the BEST thing I've read. Let's hope it all works out the way it should and no other family has to endure such a sad incident from the outside world creeping in to the happiest place on earth. The loser, should do their time on the tea cups with no potty breaks or barf bag-just ride out their time. Just my two cents worth.

Spectro is #1
08-26-2007, 02:30 PM
I just love, love,love this site. I've read posts about being in need of witnesses. I leave in two weeks with my 4 yr old twins. As a mother, if my kids would have witnessed something like this and this 'wicked witch' ruined the day for us, I would've gone Buzz all over her ****. I'm so glad someone here has the talent to make us all chuckle a bit over something really sad. Your post is absolutely the BEST thing I've read. Let's hope it all works out the way it should and no other family has to endure such a sad incident from the outside world creeping in to the happiest place on earth. The loser, should do their time on the tea cups with no potty breaks or barf bag-just ride out their time. Just my two cents worth.

agreed:thumbsup2 no barf bag:rotfl2:

But we still need Goofy-Blade's testimony to close the case.

Spectro is #1
08-26-2007, 02:35 PM
I just love, love,love this site. I've read posts about being in need of witnesses. I leave in two weeks with my 4 yr old twins. As a mother, if my kids would have witnessed something like this and this 'wicked witch' ruined the day for us, I would've gone Buzz all over her ****. I'm so glad someone here has the talent to make us all chuckle a bit over something really sad. Your post is absolutely the BEST thing I've read. Let's hope it all works out the way it should and no other family has to endure such a sad incident from the outside world creeping in to the happiest place on earth. The loser, should do their time on the tea cups with no potty breaks or barf bag-just ride out their time. Just my two cents worth.

Hey wait a minute! only a chuckle:mad:

sydprincess
08-26-2007, 03:54 PM
Here's my question-where the heck are the cast members who should be witnesses? Didn't they see this go down?! And if not, that's a whole other issue. princess:

Spectro is #1
08-27-2007, 09:31 PM
Here's my question-where the heck are the cast members who should be witnesses? Didn't they see this go down?! And if not, that's a whole other issue. princess:

At the risk of starting a flaming thread I have uncovered evidence that said cast members were distracted by a woman who needed assistance with her rented ECV. Another factor was that at that time a small group of tweens were seen wearing heelys:scared1: and a third cast member actually left The Mad Tea Party to confront them.
I still have not heard from Goofy-Blade and now believe witness tampering may explain the disappearance.
more info as I get it.

texasteacher35
08-27-2007, 09:57 PM
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:
Luv that!!!!:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Too funny! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

But seriously, that kind of behavior at Disney is giving DISNEY a BAD NAME! SERIOUSLY!!!!!
:scared1:

mgilmer
08-27-2007, 10:37 PM
yea, I saw it all..........you see first this Beauty comes by with these 7 short miners following her...singin' some Hi-Ho song....then that first lady looks over those dwarfs and when she did, that second lady, she cuts right in front of her....well, next, they went to swingin' at each other...then a couple of clueless dudes named Tweedle Dee and Dum go runnin' for cover and some big tall Goofy dog tries to jump betwixt the two women and stop them. Next this Buzz dude flies in to save the Goofy character and starts hollerin' that he is gonna kick their ***** to infinity and beyond. Before I know it some Pirates were there and they broke into a bigger fight. The next thing you know there was an innocent little bear all Poohed out on the ground with honey split all over the place. I figured I'd try to leave because I didn't want to be no witness to it...the commotion sounded like a freight train rumbling by and then I realized it was just some Mickey mouse with some mouse chick with him........unbelievably the Mouse grabbed the instigator of it all and tossed her all the way to Main Street. It was just then that a bunch of hillbilly bears had just finished their jamboree and started to tearing at the ole gal. By now she had enough and was runnin' for the front gates. The last thing I saw was a bunch of big ole parade brooms sweepin' her right out. I turned back around and low and behold some Prince Charming fellow had scooped up the injured lady and took her to the castle and there she stayed all night.

Of course I heard she got tossed out cause some family had been selected to take her place for the evening!

Other than that, I didn't see a thing, officer.

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl::rotfl::rot fl::rotfl:

mtgman
03-21-2008, 10:15 PM
The local Orlando Fax news channel did a follow up to story.

Woman Charged With 'Line Rage' Beating at Disney World

Last Edited: Friday, 21 Mar 2008, 6:04 PM EDT
Created: Friday, 21 Mar 2008, 6:04 PM EDT

Victoria Walker could face up to 15 years in jail. From MyFoxOrlando Reports


ORLANDO, Fla. -- It's supposed to be the happiest place on earth. But one woman says her experience at Disney World was anything but (video: MyFoxOrlando).

Aimee Krause claims Victoria Walker cut in line last year then beat her up when Krause called her out.

Now it seems the alleged "line rage" could send Walker to jail for 15 years.

The incident happened in May of 2007, but because the victim is now suffering serious after affects prosecutors are going forward with the case. New charges have also been added because Krause claims her children were also attacked.

Court documents say Walker beat Krause because Krause supposedly skipped Walker in the Mad Tea Cup ride line.

“She came from behind just screaming,” Krause said this week. “Next thing I knew she kicked me in my left leg, threw me to the ground and at that point I was pinned between the teacup and the saucer and she continued to beat up on my body.”

The incident report states Walker also tried to choke Krause with a lanyard she wore to hold water bottles around her neck.

Krause's medical records indicate the attack was so brutal, the 35 year old sustained severe physical damage.

When the alleged incident happened last May Walker was arrested. She bailed out of jail and returned to her home in Alabama.

During a deposition this past Monday though, Walker declined to accept a plea deal that would have given her a one year jail sentence.

Now Walker could possibly face 15 years behind bars if convicted on a battery with a deadly weapon charge.

Attempts to reach Walker were unsuccessful, because her phone is disconnected. Her attorney, David Frederick Allen did not return our phone calls.

Jury selection for the ‘Tea Cup Madness’ trial will begin in April.

Enchanted
03-22-2008, 12:10 AM
The local Orlando Fax news channel did a follow up to story.

Woman Charged With 'Line Rage' Beating at Disney World

Last Edited: Friday, 21 Mar 2008, 6:04 PM EDT
Created: Friday, 21 Mar 2008, 6:04 PM EDT

Victoria Walker could face up to 15 years in jail. From MyFoxOrlando Reports


ORLANDO, Fla. -- It's supposed to be the happiest place on earth. But one woman says her experience at Disney World was anything but (video: MyFoxOrlando).

Aimee Krause claims Victoria Walker cut in line last year then beat her up when Krause called her out.

Now it seems the alleged "line rage" could send Walker to jail for 15 years.

The incident happened in May of 2007, but because the victim is now suffering serious after affects prosecutors are going forward with the case. New charges have also been added because Krause claims her children were also attacked.

Court documents say Walker beat Krause because Krause supposedly skipped Walker in the Mad Tea Cup ride line.

“She came from behind just screaming,” Krause said this week. “Next thing I knew she kicked me in my left leg, threw me to the ground and at that point I was pinned between the teacup and the saucer and she continued to beat up on my body.”

The incident report states Walker also tried to choke Krause with a lanyard she wore to hold water bottles around her neck.

Krause's medical records indicate the attack was so brutal, the 35 year old sustained severe physical damage.

When the alleged incident happened last May Walker was arrested. She bailed out of jail and returned to her home in Alabama.

During a deposition this past Monday though, Walker declined to accept a plea deal that would have given her a one year jail sentence.

Now Walker could possibly face 15 years behind bars if convicted on a battery with a deadly weapon charge.

Attempts to reach Walker were unsuccessful, because her phone is disconnected. Her attorney, David Frederick Allen did not return our phone calls.

Jury selection for the ‘Tea Cup Madness’ trial will begin in April.

Holy COW! :scared1:

I remember hearing about this after it happened and thinking that it was terrible, but I had no idea that the victim's injuries were so bad! :eek:

Knowing that this happened at the tea cups, I bet it was because the victim moved to the end of the holding pin (like the CM's TELL you to do) while the other woman hung back. Then, when the victim was able to leave the holding pin, the other woman felt like she'd been "cut." :rolleyes: Was there any confirmation on what happened on another thread?

I hope Ms. Krause, the victim, will continue to recover. It must've been really terrible if she's suffering from side effects nearly a year later. :sad2:

jjk
03-22-2008, 02:31 AM
I did some more research and found out that another witness did come forward and he too was discredited. It sees a one Donald Fauntleroy Duck was there and did see what happened. However during the investigation it was discovered that Mr. Duck was not wearing any pants at the time and therefore became a liability to the prosecution's case and as a result, was released. I will continue my fact finding mission and report back here what I discover.
Good bye for now, I am off to Google!


:rotfl2: :rotfl:

powellrj
03-22-2008, 04:53 AM
We saw a fight at the Pirates and Princesses party last week. We were sitting enjoying a Dole Whip Float when 2 women got into a fight over a stroller hitting someone. All I can say is WOW. There were several people around us also enjoying ice cream and most were amazed that someone that was with the women didn't do something to stop them. While they never became physical, the language was really flying fast and furious. Both women were with large groups and nobody stepped in to stop them.

The lady sitting next to me commented that they missed the memo that this is suppose to be the happiest place on earth!

k5thbeatle
03-22-2008, 07:28 AM
Now THAT would be a Disney-style throwdown. :lmao: :lmao:

We like to think of Disney as a place where we are insulated from the real world. The problem is, the real world just keeps buying tickets and coming anyway. Sigh.

Sadly true! This whole story is a sad commentary?:sad2:

I remember seeing two guys nearly come to blows on the Kali River Rapids because one guy didn't like the way the other fellow placed his stuff in the middle storage compartment on the raft!

People like this must lead a very sad existence versus living life?:confused3

hawkster
03-22-2008, 08:36 AM
So silly....

While waiting in line for Pirates...where they tell you keep moving forward and fill in the spaces in the line, people in front of us were mad as heck and trying to "block" people behind us (which consisted of 2 parents, 2 young kids, and a grandmother) and started talking smack to them telliing them they were not going to let them cut. So foolish..... I told the family to stick with us that anyone that comes into Disney with an attitude and anger has some real issues.....

We ended up eating lunch with them at Peco's Bills and enjoyed their company.....it ought to be mandatory that you should have conversations with the people in front and behind you in lines...you meet some really cool people.

karenklo
03-22-2008, 10:31 AM
This is the saddest and funniest thread I have ever read! Don't you wish these angry people had to undergo some sort of testing to be able to even get into WDW? The only upset people I have ever witnessed are the way to tired kids being drug around by the Dad yelling that he paid to much for this vacation and they are staying till close and WILL HAVE FUN!

a Really Bad Egg
03-22-2008, 10:52 AM
While waiting in line for Pirates...where they tell you keep moving forward and fill in the spaces in the line, people in front of us were mad as heck and trying to "block" people behind...

I've seen people get mad about this as well...but on the flip side, I've also seen other groups move forward dozens of spots by taking advantage of the CM's instruction. It's one of the hidden tips for not waiting so long in the pirates line. :lmao:

I've got kids so I stay in line - literally and figuratively. :thumbsup2

waynesgirl
03-22-2008, 11:13 AM
Hate to say this, but I am one of those "caller-outers". It REALLY yanks my chain when I have been standing in line, with my children who have been waiting so patiently (and I KNOW they would never dare jump around and figet-because I would put a knot on their butts so fast for hurting someone else in front or behind), and someone tries to step over them.

It happened back in Sept when I went with my kids and we were waiting for the Tiki room, and this woman pushed my daughter. I calmly but forcefully told her if she put her hands on my kid again, she would be in the hospital in two slings, one for each hand. Her reply?

"I'm trying to get in line and if you don't want to move forward, then I will." My reply, which got a round of applause, "Lady, in case you haven't noticed, we are ALL in line. So unless your butt is on fire, I recommend you move back where you came from."

I am a mother who will not put up with my children pushing and poking and disturbing other people around us in line-that is just polite parenting. I do understand that some parents are not that considerate to other people, as well as I understand that little kids are a different set of rules...

but let's face it, there are so many people that KNOW they can be rude and shove and about 90% of the people aren't going to say anything, and they keep getting away with it unless you have a great cast member who will stop everything for it.

Please, son't all run and hide when I am there. I am very patient with people usually-until you put your hands on my kids for something that ridiculous. We're all going to the same ride, for Pete's sake!!!:rolleyes1

danny1649
03-22-2008, 11:41 AM
To our Community Board:goodvibes :goodvibes Danny

bumbershoot
03-22-2008, 11:48 AM
I calmly but forcefully told her if she put her hands on my kid again, she would be in the hospital in two slings, one for each hand. Her reply?

"I'm trying to get in line and if you don't want to move forward, then I will."

You actually SAID that to another human being at WDW? My mind boggles.

And what she said to you sounds like she was following a CM's instructions to move forward. I don't know the setup at WDW's Tiki Room, but if it's like what people are describing where CMs tell you to take up the available space, and you weren't listening but she was, then...:confused3

dvcbnd
03-22-2008, 12:04 PM
I understand both sides of the line-cutting and the anger that occurs from people doing it. Sometimes, it's innocent and you're told by CM's to move up, etc. When you're in those situations, it's unavoidable and everyone will get their turn on the ride. But then there are the times that you get those people (alot of times they're foreigners, but not always and I don't mean to offend anyone) who play the "stupid" or so-called "innocent" act and cut the line, but they know exactly what they are doing. They see you distracted for a second with you spouse, kids, etc and jump on the chance to scoot past you. What ever happened to politely letting the people in front of you know that the line has begun to move so that they have a chance to proceed. Would you jump in their grave that fast, too?? I don't know about anyone else, but I'm sick and tired of the lack of respect from other people today. Personally, we teach our kids the proper way to act and how to respect others! What has happened to this world that we live in that now even "the happiest place on earth" is becoming depressing?????

waynesgirl
03-22-2008, 11:16 PM
Wow, I hope everyone didn't read into that too much!

I am the first person to move up-I want on the ride as soon as I can get there. But, no matter how you slice it, unless you are defending yourself from harm, you should never out your hands on another person, period, especially not someone's child.

The crowd was just standing watching the beginning show, and no one wanted to push past anyone so we could all enjoy the waterfall show. No one, and I mean no one, was moving to the door yet.

My daughter is a VERY respectful child, and wasn't ignoring the woman-she was watching the show. The woman put her hands on my child, she didn't speak to her and ask her politely or rudely. My daughter would have moved and so would I, if it is that important to you to be the first at the door. But by no means should you ever put your hands on anyone to move them out of your way unless it is an absolute emergency.

That is my point-you should have enough control over your children to not let them be a harm but you should speak to the parent and NEVER touch the child. I am just VERY protective of my kids from physical people.