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Happyflower
08-19-2007, 08:16 PM
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I just saw the new updated menu on this site and they had all the sushi as an entree . I hope it changes back after the free dining period.

Shasta
08-19-2007, 08:19 PM
I am in a bad nightmare! More and more DDP resturants are slashing thier menus. I can't take it anymore! :sad2:

TDC Nala
08-19-2007, 08:22 PM
What I find more interesting, though, is that the cheese selection is listed as an entree.

Welcome to free dining.

Happyflower
08-19-2007, 08:26 PM
I am starting to feel the pain too. I am trying to keep a good atitude, but I have a feeling this is only the beginning. A vacation on an island is starting to sound better and cheaper. I keep thinking I am spending at least 5000 bucks and the value of the trip is getting lower and lower each day. A friend of mine said if you can afford Disney you can afford a trip to Paris, maybe he is right.:confused:

mickey2000
08-19-2007, 08:39 PM
I was on free dining last year and followed the boards. I did have steak selections last year. This IMO has nothing to do with free dining , THe Spoodles menu has also been dumbed back.
Disney is gearing up maybe early for the 2008 changes. It will save them even more money. They are smart to do it now as it will be less obvious to guests in January. Some think the menus will change back! I didn't see this last year and I have follwed th menus from last year as I printed them.
Just another cost saving :teacher:
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TDC Nala
08-19-2007, 08:44 PM
This particular change affects only those on the dining plan. All the sushi is still on the menu, the prices look about the same, but if you are on the dining plan it's an entree.

There is a rumor (unconfirmed) in another thread that Narcoosee's lobster is being removed from the dining plan selections.

LindyN
08-19-2007, 08:57 PM
A friend of mine said if you can afford Disney you can afford a trip to Paris, maybe he is right.:confused:

We cruise now as a family rather than take a long trip to Disney. As much as I love the mouse our family vacation dollars are better spent at an all-inclusive where it is capacity controlled--such as a cruise ship--where food is included. We still get to Disney but its for shorter trips.

mickey2000
08-19-2007, 08:59 PM
We cruise now as a family rather than take a long trip to Disney. As much as I love the mouse our family vacation dollars are better spent at an all-inclusive where it is capacity controlled--such as a cruise ship--where food is included. We still get to Disney but its for shorter trips.

I also enjoy cruises !

TDC Nala
08-19-2007, 09:02 PM
I don't see where the CA Grill thing is confirmed (the cheese being included as an entree confuses me) and the Narcoosees bit is definitely a rumor at this point. Why freak out now?

Happyflower
08-19-2007, 09:06 PM
The new menu is on this site dated 8/07

TDC Nala
08-19-2007, 09:09 PM
The new menu is on this site dated 8/07

That doesn't make it correct. A cheese plate is not an entree. And it wasn't that expensive. How is that a cost cutting measure?

They've got appetizers that are much more expensive than that cheese, or a couple of the sushi selections.

I will go in a week and a half and see what the restaurant says...

Shasta
08-19-2007, 10:22 PM
That doesn't make it correct. A cheese plate is not an entree. And it wasn't that expensive. How is that a cost cutting measure?

They've got appetizers that are much more expensive than that cheese, or a couple of the sushi selections.

I will go in a week and a half and see what the restaurant says...
I understand your confusion. Why would a cheese sampler raise in price and be considered dinner?

These changes are quite frightening for those who have the new 2008 DDP with dropped and app. and no tip. We do save a $1 though.

No aiming any negativity twords you good people in my venting. I'm just not happy with Disney's decision. I feel like I'm being handed my hat.

TDC Nala
08-19-2007, 10:28 PM
I understand your confusion. Why would a cheese sampler raise in price and be considered dinner?

These changes are quite frightening for those who have the new 2008 DDP with dropped and app. and no tip. We do save a $1 though.

No aiming any negativity twords you good people in my venting. I'm just not happy with Disney's decision. I feel like I'm being handed my hat.

It wasn't raised in price, just moved to the entree section. If you were paying OOP you'd still get cheese for $15 if you wanted it. But if you're DDP and want cheese, apparently you need to spend a 2 credit entree for it. Nobody's going to do that. And it doesn't cost so much, why do they want to keep DDP away from the cheese? Weird :sad2: But not frightening. There are plenty of other things I'd order.

Can't wait to see what they say when I get there!

Maybe I should read this:

http://www.inspiring-breakthrough.co.uk/images/books/who-moved-my-cheese.jpg

Shasta
08-19-2007, 10:46 PM
Priceless! :rotfl: But just to let you know, the five cheese selection is $16 now.

http://www.inspiring-breakthrough.co.uk/images/books/who-moved-my-cheese.jpg]

laurabelle
08-20-2007, 02:53 AM
Anyone experience this first hand?:confused3 Because I ate there in June on the DDP and sushi was an appetizer. We weren't advised of any restrictions by the wait staff. I'll be there again on 9/2 so I'd like to know...

Quinn222
08-20-2007, 06:41 AM
They did this same thing last year during free dining and then changed it back when it was over.

Marc A.
08-20-2007, 08:38 AM
They did this same thing last year during free dining and then changed it back when it was over.

Very good to hear. I don't want to waste an entree on sushi. My DW and I would love to have it as an app. Hopefully this stays true to form.
:thumbsup2

eeyore_is#1
08-20-2007, 11:09 AM
They did this same thing last year during free dining and then changed it back when it was over.

That's just pathetic. :sad2:

I can't believe they do stuff like this.

mickey2000
08-20-2007, 12:02 PM
They did this same thing last year during free dining and then changed it back when it was over.


Not true! I was there last year . Got a steak at Spoodles and it never came back on the menu. Same thing with an item in France .....







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tasha99
08-20-2007, 12:04 PM
It really is pathetic, because CG counts as 2 TS services. A $20 entree should be a 1 TS meal.

peyjax
08-20-2007, 12:40 PM
They did this same thing last year during free dining and then changed it back when it was over.

I don't mean to follow you from thread to thread. :) I just wanted to state that we were there last year in mid September and we did order the sushi and it was not considered an entree. So I am not sure when you ate there but in mid September they did not have it temporarily changed!

lynninpa
08-20-2007, 12:58 PM
I am in a bad nightmare! More and more DDP resturants are slashing thier menus. I can't take it anymore! :sad2:

Disney announces it 2008 Deluxe Dining Plan and menus are being cut back at "regular" TS places as well as Signature Restaurants? Just a coincidence? :confused3

Julieh22
08-20-2007, 02:30 PM
Did the info. about the sushi come from Disney itself? Sorry... just confused and wanted to get my facts straight.

My DH and I have been debating about eating at the CG or FF and depending on the answer might help where we go (I can't eat sushi right now being prego, so I don't care but he was only wanting to go to the CG for that reason).

TDC Nala
08-20-2007, 05:15 PM
I got sushi as an appetizer on the DP last year over Labor Day weekend (free dining period), the Spicy Sensation I believe.

Snake in the Grass or Yoshi's deluxe platter counted as entrees.

I still think it's going to end up being the same as last year (sushi OK as appetizer except the Snake and Yoshi's, cheese OK as dessert.) I go September 2, maybe somebody will get out there before that and report back.

The info apparently comes from a menu listing dated August 07 that is posted on the DIS menu database. It's not a scan of a menu.

jennynoel
08-20-2007, 06:26 PM
I will be so disappointed if this is true. One sushi roll is not an adequate entree! We love love love sushi and I was so looking forward to sampling the sushi appetizers. This just won't do!

Hopefully it is a mistake...

laurabelle
08-20-2007, 07:11 PM
Well this was not my experience last year during free dining. I have eaten at CA grill 4 x in the past year and sushi has always been an appetizer, including Snake in the Grass (which we ordered last year, not this year, but we've never been told by CM that there was a restriction, only read it here on the Disboards :confused3)
And I never saw a change between free dining time and regular time either...
I would be interested to know where the Dis boards got the updated menu from:confused3 ...and still waiting to read first hand reports.

laurabelle
08-20-2007, 07:20 PM
I go September 2, maybe somebody will get out there before that and report back.


Hey, I'll be there the same night, celebrating our anniversary...eating sushi!!!:thumbsup2

TDC Nala
08-20-2007, 07:45 PM
Hey, I'll be there the same night, celebrating our anniversary...eating sushi!!!:thumbsup2

Celebrating my birthday which is not September 2 but close enough. I want sushi with a candle in it.

mickey2000
08-20-2007, 10:26 PM
2004 Menu :thumbsup2 :lmao:

Brick Oven Baked Flatbreads

Quadruple Cheese, Alfredo sauce, crispy garlic chips and basil chiffonade* $9.25

Cured Duck Breast with Soft Goat Cheese, Sweet Onions and Fig Essence $11.75

Grilled Chicken, Chipotle Crema, Caramelized Onions-Peppers, and Tomatillo Salsa $9.25

Roasted Portobello and Cremini Mushrooms with Red Onion Jam and Gorgonzola Cheese* $9.00

Sushi & Sashimi

Spicy Tuna Hand Roll $10.00

Sushi Sampler $11.75

"Peeky Toe" Crab California Roll with avocado and cucumber $17.00

Spicy Sensation - scallops, tuna, avocado, tobiko and fireball sauce $16.75

Sashimi Trio...Yellowfin Tuna, Salmon and Hamachi $14.50

Yoshie's Deluxe Sushi Platter $22.75

Medusa Roll with wasabi cream and teriyaki drizzle $14.00

"Snake in the Grass" - Shrimp tempura with avocado, eel and cucumber $22.00

Yellowfin Tuna Three Ways - Poki, Tartar, and Tataki $18.75

First Course


Wild Mushroom Soup with porcini custard and chives* $8.25

Hearts of Romaine Salad with Green Goddess Dressing and sourdough croutons $8.25

Warm Castroville Artichoke stuffed with crab and gulf shrimp with Meyer lemon butter $11.50

Baby Spinach Salad with Gorgonzola, Creminis, Warm Smoked Bacon Vinaigrette and Soft Cooked Egg $9.25

Sonoma Goat Cheese Ravioli with Sun-dried Tomato Nectar, Shiitake Mushrooms and shaved beaufort* $10.00

Roasted Golden Beets and Pickled Red Beets with soft Goat Cheese, cherry vinaigrette, and Honey Pine Nuts* $9.25

Shrimp and Avocado Salad with Watercress, Water Chestnuts, and Pineapple-Candied Ginger Vinaigrette $13.25



Main Course

Copper River King Salmon with Warm Spring Vegetables, Salsa Verde, and Avocado Cream $33.00

Maryland Soft-shell Crabs with Aromatic Garlic Broth, Crispy Grit Cake, and Roasted Chile Aioli $29.00

Soft Cannellini Bean and Spinach Ravioli with Artichokes, Legumes, Camembert, and Herb Broth $19.75

14 ounce Grilled New York Strip with Organic Arugula, Marble Potatoes, and Wild Mushroom Butter $35.00

Halibut Steamed with Banana Leaf, Basmati Rice, Cucumber Salad, and Fragrant Hong Kong Vinaigrette $28.00

Oak-fired Beef Filet with Three Cheese Potato Gratin, Romano beans, and Tamarind Barbecue Sauce $34.50

Grilled Pork Tenderloin with Creamy Polenta, Cremini Mushrooms, and Zinfandel Glaze $21.75


Roasted Free-Range Chicken Breast with Pea-and-Carrot Risotto, curry-citrus broth $23.00

* Vegetarian Zone ... we will cook vegetarian for you!

Desserts

Mango Crème Brulee with petite mango salad and refreshing mango frappe $8.75

Honey-scented Sponge Cake with "Peaches and Cream" and Crunchy Toffee Candy $8.25

Rich Valrhona Chocolate Torte with Caramel Berries, Blackberry Ice Cream, and Hazelnut Florentine $9.50
Cheese Please! Nancy's Hudson Valley Camembert, Beaufort, Aged Cheddar Flan, and Parmesan Crisp 9.75
Bing Cherry Napoleon with Cherry Caramel, Vanilla Panna Cotta, Crispy Phyllo, and Amorena Cherry $10.25
Warm Valrhona Chocolate Cake with Molten Center and White Chocolate Ice Cream $9.50
Purple Pluot Sorbet with Nectarine Soup, Honey-crisp Peaches, and Frozen Crème $6.75

Wines

House Wines and Sake

Mutsu-Otokoyama Sake $15.00
Macrostie Chardonnay '02 $7.75
Mason Sauvignon Blanc '01 $6.75
Kenwood White Zinfandel '02 $6.75
Honig Cabernet Sauvignon '01 $7.75
Roederer Estate "Brut" Sparkling M.V. $7.75
Ravenswood "Vintners Blend" Zinfandel '01 $6.75

Twende
08-20-2007, 11:17 PM
I so enjoyed the 5 cheese platter in May. It is the whole reason we made reservations for Sept.

I am going to be very upset if the cheese is considered an entree!:confused3

travelgirl06
08-22-2007, 12:45 AM
Once someone has returned from CA Grill on Free Dining, would you please be so kind as to confirm/deny the sushi rumor? It's not a huge deal, but I am curious, as I was seriously excited about having sushi (but not in place of an entree, and not at $20+ a roll...)

Thanks!

cherbear
08-22-2007, 02:42 PM
It really is pathetic, because CG counts as 2 TS services. A $20 entree should be a 1 TS meal.

I agree!

Once someone has returned from CA Grill on Free Dining, would you please be so kind as to confirm/deny the sushi rumor? It's not a huge deal, but I am curious, as I was seriously excited about having sushi (but not in place of an entree, and not at $20+ a roll...)

Thanks!

I'd like to hear from someone as well. Travelgirl, I do see you are going before me, so when you return will you post something here about your meal?

I have never eaten at CG and I am SO looking forward to it...especially the sushi rolls! I LOVE sushi and my DH does not care for it. So I was glad to eat somewhere that's not an "all japanese" place where he can eat what he wants.

Shasta
08-22-2007, 06:04 PM
It really is pathetic, because CG counts as 2 TS services. A $20 entree should be a 1 TS meal.
Yes, good point but with one problem. CG isn't pulling items expensive entrees like WGPs. So far, what I see is CG moving more expensive apps to the entree menu. There are many entree items over $20. Below is a menu updated this month on this website for CG:

"Snake in the Grass" Roll - Shrimp tempura with avocado, eel, and cucumber. - $22.00
Buffalo Strip Steak - Served with a corn pancake, fava beans, wild mushrooms, bacon and crispy shallots. - $36.00
California Grill Cheese Selections - Choice of any three cheeses for $11.00 or choose all five for $16.00 The Selection of Cheeses includes Bandage Wrapped Cheddar: aged for 30 months this traditional English-style cheddar is nutty and creamy with a developed tang; Mimolette: Hard, unpasteurized cow's milk cheese that is basically a matured Edam that ripens for 6 - 9 months. Intensely fruity and popular as a cooking cheese; Bergblume: raw cooked curd cow's milk cheese made in the tradition of Gruyere that is washed in a solution of herbs and flowers which give the rind a pine green color and its flavor intensely herbaceous; Juliana Goat Cheese: raw milk aged goat cheese in a small one pound wheel with herbes de Provence pressed into the rind before aging. The herbs transform the mellow flavor of the Old Kentucky Tomme; Bleu de Gex: the milk comes from the Montbeliarde cows and the spores used to come from the plants eaten by the cows, but today the bacteria is injected into the cheese.
Double Crunch Rainbow Roll - Cobia, Salmon, Tuna, Tempura crunch, and Tobikko. - $19.00
Dungeness Crab California Roll - Made with avocado and cucumber. - $17.00
Grilled Pork Tenderloin - Served with creamy goat cheese polenta, cremini mushrooms, Zinfandel glaze, and sage. - $26.00
Oak-fired Beef Filet - Served with crushed red potatoes with Nueske's bacon, green beans, and teriyaki bbq sauce. - $36.00
Pacific Halibut - Served with spring onions, chanterelle mushrooms, crushed potatoes, and red wine reduction. - $31.00
Red Snapper Fillet - Served with crispy rice galette, saute of summer vegetables, and coconut curry sauce. - $31.00
Ricotta Gnocchi Gratinee - Served with roasted tomatoes, wilted arugula, olive tapenade, and aged balsamic. - $23.00
Roasted Free Range Chicken Breast - Served with Heirloom tomato panzanella and tomato-sherry vinaigrette. - $28.00
Sashimi - Yellowfin tuna, salmon, and Hamachi. - $16.00
Sushi: Spicy Sensation - Scallops, tuna, avocado, Tobiko, and Fireball sauce. - $18.00
Wild Alaskan King Salmon - Served with fingerling potatoes, crispy bacon, baby spinach and egg vinaigrette. - $32.00
Yellowfin Tuna Three Ways - Poki, Tartar, and Tataki - $20.00
Yoshie's Deluxe Sushi Platter - Maki and Nigiri - $24.00

cherbear
08-22-2007, 06:26 PM
ooh....

ok so what should I order? hehe

Shasta
08-22-2007, 08:27 PM
ooh....

ok so what should I order? hehe

If this is around on Jan 2nd, I'm ordering it! Not because of the price but because I love steak and have never had fava beans! :rotfl: If it were a lamb steak, I'd have the "Silence of the Lambs Combo". :rotfl2:

Buffalo Strip Steak - Served with a corn pancake, fava beans, wild mushrooms, bacon and crispy shallots. - $36.00




And a Chianti...:rotfl2:

Texa
08-23-2007, 05:11 AM
Those prices are pretty close to the LeCellier and Coral Reef entrees. Both 1 TS. I wonder if they will switch any 1TS and 2 TS around after they are done tweeking the menu.

Shasta
08-23-2007, 06:40 AM
Those prices are pretty close to the LeCellier and Coral Reef entrees. Both 1 TS. I wonder if they will switch any 1TS and 2 TS around after they are done tweeking the menu.
I think that part of the reason why CG is a 2 TS meal is because of it's location. It's has the best view in all of Disney and the dinner has the fireworks show. I may agree that the lunch could be 1 TS but I don't see the dinner being 1 TS. If you rated a resturant's TS rating on menu only, HDD and character dinning would be only 1 TS.

I did look at Le Cellier and Coral Reef's menus.


Le Cellier (updated this month, on this site) While pricey, CG clearly has a more expensive menu with 6 items more than LCs most expensive item.
14 oz New York Strip Steak - Served with balsamic red onions, watercress, and roasted Yukon potatoes finished with veal demi-glace. - $26.99
7 oz Filet Mignon - Glazed with maple BBQ sauce and accompanied by cream cheese mashed potatoes. - $26.99
Beef Bourguignonne - Served with roasted mushrooms, red wine, Pappardelle noodles, and chive creme fraiche. - $21.99
Grilled Pork Chop - Served with sauteed herb gnocchi, wilted rapini, and Icewine apple butter. - $20.99 Herb Crusted Prime Rib - Served with Roasted Yukon potatoes, finished with veal demi-glace. - $21.99
Le Cellier Mushroom Filet Mignon - Baby portobella wild mushroom risotto with white truffle and herb butter sauce topped with fried parsnips. - $27.99
Seared Free-Range Chicken - Served over white beans and seasonal marinated veggies topped with lavender butter. - $19.99
Seared King Salmon - Served over sweet maple corn cake with candied walnuts and maple-ginger glaze. - $20.99
Shrimp, Scallop, & Mussel Bouillabaisse - Served over a pearl couscous with rich vegetable broth. - $22.99
Spiced Black Bean Cake - Roasted red pepper stuffed with black bean and corn dressing served with noodle salad and peanut sauce. - $15.99

Coral Reef (updated this month on this site) Going in to this, I'd have guessed that CR would be priced higher than LC but no. It's a bit less. Again, less than CG.

Blackened Catfish - Served over pepperjack cheese grits, topped with a smoked tomato compote, and drizzled with a balsamic glaze. - $20.99
Grilled Chicken Breast - Served with roasted Yukon potatoes, caramelized leeks, and pancetta vinaigrette. - $20.99
Grilled Mahi-Mahi - Served over Israeli Couscous and baby spinach with honey-soy glaze. - $25.99
Grilled NY Strip Steak - Served with potatoes au gratin and broccolini. - $21.99
Grilled Pork Chop - Served with roasted veggies and peppercorn-brandy sauce. - $21.99
Pan-seared Ahi Tuna - Served with Wasabi mashed potato and Soy glaze. - $26.99
Pesto Risotto - Made with grilled Portobello mushrooms, crumbled blue cheese, and tomato-lemon grass broth topped with crispy leeks. - $16.99
Seared Sterling Salmon - Served with Guacamole garnish and served with Wild rice medley. - $23.99
Shrimp Pasta - Served with stir-fried vegetables. - $23.99


My point is that while I agree that apps have been added to the main menu (even the desert cheese platter), the main menu is still as prices as before. Take the sushi and cheese off the entrees and see what is left:

Buffalo Strip Steak - Served with a corn pancake, fava beans, wild mushrooms, bacon and crispy shallots. - $36.00
Grilled Pork Tenderloin - Served with creamy goat cheese polenta, cremini mushrooms, Zinfandel glaze, and sage. - $26.00
Oak-fired Beef Filet - Served with crushed red potatoes with Nueske's bacon, green beans, and teriyaki bbq sauce. - $36.00
Pacific Halibut - Served with spring onions, chanterelle mushrooms, crushed potatoes, and red wine reduction. - $31.00
Red Snapper Fillet - Served with crispy rice galette, saute of summer vegetables, and coconut curry sauce. - $31.00
Ricotta Gnocchi Gratinee - Served with roasted tomatoes, wilted arugula, olive tapenade, and aged balsamic. - $23.00
Roasted Free Range Chicken Breast - Served with Heirloom tomato panzanella and tomato-sherry vinaigrette. - $28.00
Wild Alaskan King Salmon - Served with fingerling potatoes, crispy bacon, baby spinach and egg vinaigrette. - $32.00


The better argument (or at least it seems to me) is that WGPs dropped it's steaks from the menu. That is an argument I can get behind! WGPs average menu cost dropped considerably with these deleted items off. While there are some tasty entrees left, It certainly is a drop in value.

kathyg
08-23-2007, 03:07 PM
We (6 of us) ate at California Grill two nights ago. This is what I can report. Two of our party got Sushi as both appetizer and entree. I got the cheese plate as an appetizer. I knew going in that this wasn't going to be possible, but when I asked our server he said anything from the sushi, appetizer and soup/salad menu could be used as an appetizer. I asked him about the cheese plate and he said we could have it for an appetizer or for dessert.

For what it's worth, we have been in Disney for two weeks (leaving tomorrow). I think it all depends on the server you get. Fortunately, we lucked out at California Grill.

Will be posting my dining report as soon as I return.

cherbear
08-23-2007, 03:12 PM
We (6 of us) ate at California Grill two nights ago. This is what I can report. Two of our party got Sushi as both appetizer and entree. I got the cheese plate as an appetizer. I knew going in that this wasn't going to be possible, but when I asked our server he said anything from the sushi, appetizer and soup/salad menu could be used as an appetizer. I asked him about the cheese plate and he said we could have it for an appetizer or for dessert.

For what it's worth, we have been in Disney for two weeks (leaving tomorrow). I think it all depends on the server you get. Fortunately, we lucked out at California Grill.

Will be posting my dining report as soon as I return.

cool! :thumbsup2 Thank you SO SO much for posting this!

disneydreamin-gang
08-23-2007, 03:34 PM
I'm sorry but I'm confused about the appetizers, entree thing. :confused3 :confused3
If I'm on the DDP I get an app, entree and desert. If I want to order something extra I can pay out of pocket for it correct? Or am I reading this right and can only order what the DDP pays for..
We were there last Sept and the meal was wonderful. We are going back in Sept 08 on the new DDP(not happy with changes but still worth it for us)(Hoping for free dining again) I'm trying to figure this out before I do my planning of ADRs.

mickey2000
08-23-2007, 04:33 PM
Just called the CG wanted an answer.....

Quote from manager " People on the DDP can now get "Snake in the Grass"
as an entree."
Thats all I needed to know.Guess they are starting to gear up for 2008 :confused3

Halle
08-23-2007, 04:47 PM
Ate at the CG 8/15, sushi was an appetizer, there are two sushi selections that aren't included, most expensive ones.

jennynoel
08-23-2007, 05:30 PM
Just called the CG wanted an answer.....

Quote from manager " People on the DDP can now get "Snake in the Grass"
as an entree."
Thats all I needed to know.Guess they are starting to gear up for 2008 :confused3

Snake in the Grass was not included on DDP at all before, so this is a positive change.

It sounds like the menu hasn't changed, except that sushi can be either appetizer or an entree - that's a good thing!

Hopefully my interpretation is correct.

kimisabella
08-23-2007, 05:37 PM
Snake in the Grass was not included on DDP at all before, so this is a positive change.

It sounds like the menu hasn't changed, except that sushi can be either appetizer or an entree - that's a good thing!

Hopefully my interpretation is correct.


We ate at the CG last August during free dining and I got the snake in the grass as my appetizer, I specifically remember this because my dh was embarassed when I took a picture of it. Maybe it depends on the server? :confused3 We are going to the CG again next month and I hope that the menu is the same as last year! Although last year they had a goat cheese cheesecake as one of the desserts and it was delicious, and I haven't seen it on the menu anymore :sad2: .

Shasta
08-23-2007, 05:41 PM
Snake in the Grass was not included on DDP at all before, so this is a positive change.

It sounds like the menu hasn't changed, except that sushi can be either appetizer or an entree - that's a good thing!

Hopefully my interpretation is correct.

It is a good thing. After much thinking about it, I see the addition of sushi as a plus for the 2008 DDP. By dropping the app, you couldn't no longer have sushi in 2008. Now you have that option. The same full menu is there but with the additional sushi menu added.

For 2007 is can hurt because DDP apps are still included and sushi (I don't know if all) is now moved up to entrees. 2007 DDP participants loose that nice sushi app.

mickey2000
08-23-2007, 05:44 PM
Snake in the Grass was not included on DDP at all before, so this is a positive change.

It sounds like the menu hasn't changed, except that sushi can be either appetizer or an entree - that's a good thing!

Hopefully my interpretation is correct.

PREVIOUS MENU :
CALIFORNIA GRILL
DINNER
Contemporary Resort
Note: The menu changes to feature the freshest ingredients available seasonally.

Brick Oven Baked Flatbreads

Quadruple Cheese, Alfredo sauce, crispy garlic chips and basil chiffonade* $9.25

Cured Duck Breast with Soft Goat Cheese, Sweet Onions and Fig Essence $11.75

Grilled Chicken, Chipotle Crema, Caramelized Onions-Peppers, and Tomatillo Salsa $9.25

Roasted Portobello and Cremini Mushrooms with Red Onion Jam and Gorgonzola Cheese* $9.00

Sushi & Sashimi

Spicy Tuna Hand Roll $10.00

Sushi Sampler $11.75

"Peeky Toe" Crab California Roll with avocado and cucumber $17.00

Spicy Sensation - scallops, tuna, avocado, tobiko and fireball sauce $16.75

Sashimi Trio...Yellowfin Tuna, Salmon and Hamachi $14.50

Yoshie's Deluxe Sushi Platter $22.75

Medusa Roll with wasabi cream and teriyaki drizzle $14.00

"Snake in the Grass" - Shrimp tempura with avocado, eel and cucumber $22.00

Yellowfin Tuna Three Ways - Poki, Tartar, and Tataki $18.75

First Course


Wild Mushroom Soup with porcini custard and chives* $8.25

Hearts of Romaine Salad with Green Goddess Dressing and sourdough croutons $8.25

Warm Castroville Artichoke stuffed with crab and gulf shrimp with Meyer lemon butter $11.50

Baby Spinach Salad with Gorgonzola, Creminis, Warm Smoked Bacon Vinaigrette and Soft Cooked Egg $9.25

Sonoma Goat Cheese Ravioli with Sun-dried Tomato Nectar, Shiitake Mushrooms and shaved beaufort* $10.00

Roasted Golden Beets and Pickled Red Beets with soft Goat Cheese, cherry vinaigrette, and Honey Pine Nuts* $9.25

Shrimp and Avocado Salad with Watercress, Water Chestnuts, and Pineapple-Candied Ginger Vinaigrette $13.25



Main Course

Copper River King Salmon with Warm Spring Vegetables, Salsa Verde, and Avocado Cream $33.00

Maryland Soft-shell Crabs with Aromatic Garlic Broth, Crispy Grit Cake, and Roasted Chile Aioli $29.00

Soft Cannellini Bean and Spinach Ravioli with Artichokes, Legumes, Camembert, and Herb Broth $19.75

14 ounce Grilled New York Strip with Organic Arugula, Marble Potatoes, and Wild Mushroom Butter $35.00

Halibut Steamed with Banana Leaf, Basmati Rice, Cucumber Salad, and Fragrant Hong Kong Vinaigrette $28.00

Oak-fired Beef Filet with Three Cheese Potato Gratin, Romano beans, and Tamarind Barbecue Sauce $34.50

Grilled Pork Tenderloin with Creamy Polenta, Cremini Mushrooms, and Zinfandel Glaze $21.75


Roasted Free-Range Chicken Breast with Pea-and-Carrot Risotto, curry-citrus broth $23.00

* Vegetarian Zone ... we will cook vegetarian for you!

Desserts

Mango Crème Brulee with petite mango salad and refreshing mango frappe $8.75

Honey-scented Sponge Cake with "Peaches and Cream" and Crunchy Toffee Candy $8.25

Rich Valrhona Chocolate Torte with Caramel Berries, Blackberry Ice Cream, and Hazelnut Florentine $9.50
Cheese Please! Nancy's Hudson Valley Camembert, Beaufort, Aged Cheddar Flan, and Parmesan Crisp 9.75
Bing Cherry Napoleon with Cherry Caramel, Vanilla Panna Cotta, Crispy Phyllo, and Amorena Cherry $10.25
Warm Valrhona Chocolate Cake with Molten Center and White Chocolate Ice Cream $9.50
Purple Pluot Sorbet with Nectarine Soup, Honey-crisp Peaches, and Frozen Crème $6.75

Wines

House Wines and Sake

Mutsu-Otokoyama Sake $15.00
Macrostie Chardonnay '02 $7.75
Mason Sauvignon Blanc '01 $6.75
Kenwood White Zinfandel '02 $6.75
Honig Cabernet Sauvignon '01 $7.75
Roederer Estate "Brut" Sparkling M.V. $7.75
Ravenswood "Vintners Blend" Zinfandel '01 $6.75

Colleen27
08-23-2007, 11:35 PM
I'd take this one with a grain of salt until it is confirmed by DISers returning to report about any possible changes. The Cali Grill menu on this site has been a little muddled for as long as I can recall (at least the couple months since we started planning again). That's one of the reasons I still refer back to Allears sometimes even though the WDWinfo menus are usually more up-to-date: the Allears menus are sometimes better formatted.

laurabelle
08-24-2007, 04:51 AM
I also had Snake in the Grass as an appetizer last year on the DDP, so it has been included. I happen to enjoy a couple of other sushi more, so I didn't order that this year, so I can't confirm or deny it's exclusion. My personal experience is that I have never been told of any DDP exclusions by my server at CA Grill. I will be there on Sept 2 during Free Dining, and will be ordering sushi. I promise I'll report back my experience!:magnify:

Kim1964
08-24-2007, 07:27 AM
Here's a picture I took of the menu on 8/18

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7d602b3127cceb9be40e4b5dd00000026101AcsnDNq1bsV

PrincessTrisha
08-24-2007, 11:53 AM
So based on that menu (8/18), sushi is not listed as an entree and the cheese plate is not listed as an entree (presumably it is listed on the dessert menu?).

So it was much ado about nothing?? :confused3

mickey2000
08-24-2007, 12:09 PM
Yesterday called the CG wanted an answer.....

Quote from manager " People on the DDP can now get "Snake in the Grass"
as an entree."

DeeCeeSW
08-24-2007, 01:10 PM
I'm confused here....

I've been reading the sticky thread about what's included in the DDP and read several months ago that "Snake in the Grass" and "Yoshi's platter" were "reported" to not be included on the DDP as an appetizer. Why is everyone so surprised that it is being considered an entree for us folks? As far as I can see, we can still get the "Spicy Sensation" and other sushi as appetizers. I know it's not "fair" that the larger sushi dishes are now excluded, but it's not like sushi has been eliminated as an appetizer option altogether. Everyone who has called to inquire about the sushi seems to be getting answers about Snake and Yoshi's. There are more sushi options and they are still appetizers!!!! And if the cheese plate is now considered a dessert, why would this make a difference if it's still included on the DDP? So if you MUST have it, get it as dessert and share another dessert with your tablemate(s)! Am I missing something here (other than the "principle of the thing," that the appys are now considered entrees)?

andrews1
08-24-2007, 04:30 PM
There was confusion...much ado about nothing, apparently (and thankfully - we're looking forward to a little sushi as an appitizer, and something else for a wonderful entree!).

Bronte
08-24-2007, 05:25 PM
I emailed disney to ask about the sushi ...

"Dear XXXXXXXXXX,

Thank you for contacting the Walt Disney World Resort.

In speaking with the restaurant, at this time, there is sushi on the
menu but not as an appetizer.

If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact
us.

Please include your full name, E-Mail address, and reservation number if
applicable on all correspondence.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXXX"

TDC Nala
08-24-2007, 05:54 PM
I'm confused here....

I've been reading the sticky thread about what's included in the DDP and read several months ago that "Snake in the Grass" and "Yoshi's platter" were "reported" to not be included on the DDP as an appetizer. Why is everyone so surprised that it is being considered an entree for us folks? As far as I can see, we can still get the "Spicy Sensation" and other sushi as appetizers. I know it's not "fair" that the larger sushi dishes are now excluded, but it's not like sushi has been eliminated as an appetizer option altogether. Everyone who has called to inquire about the sushi seems to be getting answers about Snake and Yoshi's. There are more sushi options and they are still appetizers!!!! And if the cheese plate is now considered a dessert, why would this make a difference if it's still included on the DDP? So if you MUST have it, get it as dessert and share another dessert with your tablemate(s)! Am I missing something here (other than the "principle of the thing," that the appys are now considered entrees)?

i think it's more than fair personally to consider dishes that cost over $25 as entrees.

Fine with the cheese as a dessert but not so fine with it as an entree (that's what the menu the DIS put up on their menu database said although who knows if it's correct?). If it's an entree I just won't get it.

But I'm thinking about getting a flatbread appetizer and Yoshis as an entree, maybe I won't get overstuffed that way, that's plenty of food.

andrews1
08-24-2007, 08:21 PM
In speaking with the restaurant, at this time, there is sushi on the menu but not as an appetizer.

That is completely true. Look at the photograph of the menu from 8/18 in the post a few up from this one. It is under it's own separate section, not an appetizers section, and has been in all the previous menus posted before the one that started this thread showed up. What has been, though (and seem to still be according to those who've posted in this thread that they've eaten there since the supposed menu changes), is that you are allowed to choose from the sushi as what the DDP terms an "appetizer", just like you can choose a flatbread from the "Flatbreads" section as an appetizer, though it's not specifically called "Appetizers".

Many of the other menus at the WDW do similar things, where, say, the menu lists a "Soups and Salads" section, or something like that, and an "Appetizer" section, but you're allowed to choose from those as a DDP "appetizer".

Kata
08-26-2007, 08:16 PM
I don't think that the signature restaurants should be as concerned about making as many cutbacks on their menu as the 1 TS restaurants,especially CG. My last visit to CG in 2005 I had their pork tenderloin which was very good but was $24.99 in 2005. There are more expensive entrees at 1 TS restaurants. I know the pork tenderloin is a popular signature dish and how many people are using 2 TS to order it on DDP. They aren't losing money on those people. When I go back to WDW in 12/07 I will go back to CG and pay OOP and eat at Le Cellier twice with the credits. If Narcoose's decides to remove the lobster from the dining plan I will cancel my ADR there and I am sure many other people will also cancel there ADR's there. The lobster at Narcoose's is a special treat that is worthy of being a 2 TS but if you remove that from the equation there is better food at WDW. As far as I am concerned if you are a signature restaurant you better give me a really good meal.:)

KristenHoneymooner
08-28-2007, 01:42 PM
:sad2: :sad2: :sad2: :sad2: :sad2: :sad2: :sad2: :sad2:

I just saw the new updated menu on this site and they had all the sushi as an entree . I hope it changes back after the free dining period.

I'm really confused by this statement. :confused3 I ate at CG on the DDP just last Saturday (8/25) and we were told that all the sushi counted as an appetizer with two exceptions - I can't remember the exceptions, but I remember that both were priced above $20. We were told that we could order those two exceptions as an entree. My DH got the California roll ($17) for an appetizer and then the filet for an entree, with no problems at all.

KristenHoneymooner
08-28-2007, 01:46 PM
Ok, so I've read more of the thread now and understand better.

We were explicitly told that anything above the "main course" line would be counted as an appetizer, with the exception of the two most expensive sushi items. So, even if something is called a first course or something else, if it isn't a main course it doesn't count as the entree (with the two exceptions noted above).

Twende
08-28-2007, 09:31 PM
So is there any confirmation that the 5 cheese platter is gone as an appetizer?

I had it in May and it was so nice that DH and I made reservations based on it for this Sept.

There is no way I want it as an entree but I do want it!

travelgirl06
08-29-2007, 12:20 AM
Thanks for the update KristenHoneymooner! :thumbsup2

That is the news I was hoping to hear. Sushi was a big part of the reason that I booked CA Grill (vs. the other signature restaurants) because DBF and I are huge sushi fans. I'm glad to know that we *should* be able to order sushi as an appetizer with our DDP credits...and still be able to order some of those fabulous entrees.

Twende
08-29-2007, 05:21 PM
Does any one have the direct number to this restaurant?

I guess I am going to have to call them and ask about the five cheese platter. DH is saying that if they do not offer it then we should cancel and use our four credits some place else.:confused:

Twende
08-29-2007, 05:36 PM
I just found the number: 407-824-1576

I just called and asked if the 5 Cheese platter on the dining plan is considered an appetizer or an entree.

She put me on hold and came back and said it is either an appetizer or a dessert.

So to me that is the same as when we went in May. :cool1:

Hurray it means we can get the cheese platter and an entree!:woohoo:

mkross
08-29-2007, 08:34 PM
and the cheese plate was not listed on the regular menu and when I asked, yes indeed it could be an appy and yes, I got it and it was devine! Hope that helps!

TDC Nala
09-04-2007, 04:23 PM
Just there Sunday night.

All sushi could be ordered as an appetizer except for the Snake in the Grass and Yoshi's Deluxe Sushi Platter. They were considered entrees.

Cheese board (price now $17) could be ordered as either an appetizer or dessert.

The buffalo steak was good!

jennynoel
09-04-2007, 06:02 PM
Just there Sunday night.

All sushi could be ordered as an appetizer except for the Snake in the Grass and Yoshi's Deluxe Sushi Platter. They were considered entrees.

Cheese board (price now $17) could be ordered as either an appetizer or dessert.

The buffalo steak was good!

Thanks so much! Your first-hand account really put my fears to rest.

DeeCeeSW
09-04-2007, 07:13 PM
Ate at CG last Friday night and had the Hurricane Roll (DELISH!!) and a Rainbow Roll for appys. Did not ask about the cheese board, but I see that I could have had it for an appy as well. At first our server said we could have ANY sushi as an appy but then came back to the table and told us that Snake and Yoshi's were excluded.

laurabelle
09-05-2007, 01:09 PM
We also ate there Sun. night (in the wine room, fabulous!) We were also told Snake in the Grass and Yoshi's were considered entrees, I didn't ask about the cheese platter. We also had the Hurricane Roll, yummy! Spicy Sensation too, which is still our hands down favorite sushi in the world! :thumbsup2

TDC Nala
09-05-2007, 06:38 PM
mine was Yellowfin Tuna Three Ways. Almost too pretty to eat.

I was not in the wine room, had a view of the Polynesian and TTC.

grgich
09-05-2007, 07:07 PM
Ate at CA Grill on Thursday, 8/30 and I can confirm that sushi was considered an appetizer, with the exclusion of the snake in the grass and yoshi's deluxe. Also, the cheese platter could be either an appetizer or dessert (or both, if you choose to order one as your appetizer and one as your dessert, I think).

I think those were the only restrictions.

Personally, I was very disappointed in the sushi. I have a sushi-eating family and the rolls we got were not very high quality, very soggy/mushy, and not the freshest of fish. I had heard so much raving about how good the sushi was there, so maybe I had too high of expectations, but I wouldn't go back for the sushi. I'd go back for the atmosphere and the service, but IMO the food was not that spectacular. Has the chef changed recently????

laurabelle
09-05-2007, 08:25 PM
mine was Yellowfin Tuna Three Ways. Almost too pretty to eat.

I was not in the wine room, had a view of the Polynesian and TTC.

It was our first time in the wine room and we loved it! Just a few tables there so it was quieter, and it has a lovely view of WL. We still walked out on the catwalk on the MK side for the view there.
I have seen the tuna dish...it's on my to try list!