A Big Woman vs Big Rides

[Sabre2th]

I'm a big woman; 5'9" and 270lbs. Twice I've stood in a l-o-n-g line, waiting to get on a super-coaster only to have the teenage attendant tell me that they can't strap my in properly. :sad2:
I wasn't aware there was such a thing as extenders on either occasion; and no one bothered to tell me about them.
I have two boys going with us to US/IOA and both will certainly need a parent by their side if they wish to ride on the super rides. Are the rollercoasters suited for a big person, or at least will I be able to get an extender if needed?

[yaytezIOA]

Extender? Not sure I know what youre talking about. However, Hulk, and Dueling Dragons have modified seating. I think they're in rows 3 and 6 on hulk, row 6 on Fire, and rows 3 and 6 on Ice.
Other rides like the mummy, they have test seats out front.

[Metro West]

I'm a big woman; 5'9" and 270lbs. Twice I've stood in a l-o-n-g line, waiting to get on a super-coaster only to have the teenage attendant tell me that they can't strap my in properly. :sad2:
I wasn't aware there was such a thing as extenders on either occasion; and no one bothered to tell me about them.
I have two boys going with us to US/IOA and both will certainly need a parent by their side if they wish to ride on the super rides. Are the rollercoasters suited for a big person, or at least will I be able to get an extender if needed?As yaytezIOA said, both Hulk and Dueling Dragons have seats that have a double seat belt that will accomodate larger folks. They are located in rows 3 and 6 on all trains on both coasters. For ROTM, if you can't pull the lap bar down past a certain point, they will direct you to the back row which as extended leg room. But, test out the seats out front before making the trek into the queue.

[micksterlee]

We were at Universal in June and I couldn't ride Hulk,DD, or Dr. Doom do to size. I am a male 5'11 300 lbs, I fit in the Mummy but the attendant had to slam the bar to get it to click. Even though I would have liked to ride these attractions I found plenty of other great stuff to keep me well entertained for 7 full days at the parks.

[MIB999999]

BTW it is one seat in each of the rows listed above that has the "duel seat belt". There is a test seat outside of the regular and the extra size.

I have been on hulk and seen two attendents try to push the shoulder restraint down far enough for the person to ride and it was not a pretty sight. Try the seats out front of each coaster first to avoid that awkward situation. :cool2:

[Sabre2th]

We were at Universal in June and I couldn't ride Hulk,DD, or Dr. Doom do to size. I am a male 5'11 300 lbs, I fit in the Mummy but the attendant had to slam the bar to get it to click. Even though I would have liked to ride these attractions I found plenty of other great stuff to keep me well entertained for 7 full days at the parks.

It's good to know that there will be plenty to keep me entertained while I'm there. I really am getting out of the age of enjoying coasters. It used to be fun getting tipped upside, sideways, and falling to the ground at the speed of light:upsidedow ...but now its just kinda annoying.:headache:
I do have two kids however who have only been on one coaster, a baby one at that, but they loved it. So, I was hoping to go on with them so they wouldn't be scared. Buy deep down, I'm hoping both my boys take a look at a the BIG ones and say "No WAY!" :scared1::scared1:

[Timmy Boy]

I'm a big woman; 5'9" and 270lbs. Twice I've stood in a l-o-n-g line, waiting to get on a super-coaster only to have the teenage attendant tell me that they can't strap my in properly. :sad2:
I wasn't aware there was such a thing as extenders on either occasion; and no one bothered to tell me about them.
I have two boys going with us to US/IOA and both will certainly need a parent by their side if they wish to ride on the super rides. Are the rollercoasters suited for a big person, or at least will I be able to get an extender if needed?
Why does it matter that it's a teenager? Is it their fault that he/she was doing her job?

[Spidey7]

You actually don 't sound that big at 270 and 5'9 is pretty tall.

As for most of the rides like Spiderman, Jaws, Twister (which is not a ride) Earthquake, Terminator, Shrek (not rides), probably MIB and ET as well you shouldn't have much of a problem either, and maybe JP. Actually JP can be a little cramped even for me 6' 200lbs, so that one may be questionable. They made the seating on that one too cramped IMO. And avoid the front on this one, the front is more cramped than the other sections, the back may be the best for room. I can't even fit into the front, I do have fairly long legs, but I feel for anyone above 6ft on this ride.

The 3 coasters would be the only likely issues and it looks like they got you covered on that above.

[Sabre2th]

Why does it matter that it's a teenager? Is it their fault that he/she was doing her job?

Well, it would have been their job to tell me of any options that were available to me; or at the very least be polite. But that would have required some thinking on their part. :idea:
It also happened to be their fault that they had the "Eh, I'm not going to do any more than I absolutely have to" attitude.
I already made up my mind not to return to either of those theme parks and I'm really looking to forward to checking out US/IOA to see if they know want customer service is all about.
Your defensive response only reafirms my ideas that the average teenager really doesn't have a clue how to deal with the general public. From how most teenagers act when they're, "Just doing their jobs," in their eyes, its still all about them. Just them. :sad2:

[tink242424]

I just got back from US/IOA and I had a problem with Dueling Dragons and the Hulk. I had to sit in the bigger seat which meant that my sister and I couldn't sit next to each other. I have to say that I was surprised that I was unable to fit in the regular seats as I have been to SF Great Adventure, Busch Gardens Williamsburg & Disney and have had no problem on any of the rides.

I think Universal made a big mistake with the seat size as most Americans are overweight. I am also 5'9" and 270 pounds. I know I am not small by any means but considering other theme parks have bigger seats I am really surprised by Universal.

That being said, I had no problem on the Mummy or Jurassic Park so you should be fine. I also had a really good time at both parks but think Universal should change the seat size or have the double strap seats as a whole row not just one seat in the row.

[MrDroopy]

I think Universal made a big mistake with the seat size as most Americans are overweight. I am also 5'9" and 270 pounds. I know I am not small by any means but considering other theme parks have bigger seats I am really surprised by Universal.

It's hard for a theme park to accomodate for all of its visitors. Not everyone is going to be happy. Personally, I think such as arguement is as valid as saying "Why didn't Universal make their parks smaller? Too much walking is involved! Don't they realize that the majority of Americans are overweight?"

[Timmy Boy]

Well, Universal's coasters seat sizes aren't Universal's fault. It's the coaster company. The coaster company is actually being nice giving them accomodating seats. They could have said "nope, no bigger seats."

[Metro West]

Well, Universal's coasters seat sizes aren't Universal's fault. It's the coaster company. The coaster company is actually being nice giving them accomodating seats. They could have said "nope, no bigger seats."That's true and because of the design, B & M and other coaster companies want to make them as thrilling as possible. If they only made coaster seats smaller, I would imagine a lot of people couldn't ride.

[micksterlee]

My question is if I fit in all the seats at other parks why can't Universal or the coaster companies build seats that accomadate more riders.I know they build these things with the majority of people in mind but the week we were there I stood around and watched alot of people that tried and wouldn't fit in the test seats.Like I said earlier I am not knocking Universal because there was still plenty there to keep me busy for the whole week.

[Sabre2th]

My question is if I fit in all the seats at other parks why can't Universal or the coaster companies build seats that accomadate more riders.I know they build these things with the majority of people in mind but the week we were there I stood around and watched alot of people that tried and wouldn't fit in the test seats.Like I said earlier I am not knocking Universal because there was still plenty there to keep me busy for the whole week.

I'm just guessing but I wonder if its because the thrill rides throw the human body around more and if you weigh more then you require even stronger restraints.
Not that they couldn't make more of the seats to accomidate larger people, but I would guess this would up the cost in making the coaster, and let's face it, it's always about the bottom line.
Now, in defense of the coaster makers, they may be reasonably concerned with an extremely over weight person getting on the coaster, and going into heart failure. Grant it, it should be ride at your own risk, but let's face it; in today's society of "sue one, sue all", I can't say I entirely blame the parks and coaster makers for making sure that someone who is at risk of possibily dying on their ride keeps from getting on. I'm just hoping that I can still fit in; even if its just for my kids sake.
One of the reasons that I look forward to going to US/IOA is a couple of years ago they ran a comerical with a larger woman riding with her two younger children on the Jurassic Ride. I figured if she could fit into it, then so could I!
Luckily my husband is a slim 170 and if I can't ride, then he can. (Whether he wants to or not.:scared:

[ky07]

I am 6ft 1 and am 283 and was able to ride rides like the hulk fine but 2 years ago when i went to ioa and i was about 300 pound still fit but they did have to push down on the restraint and lol that wasn't fun for me or them :lmao:

[tink242424]

You will definitely be fine on Jurassic Park. The only two rides you will need the bigger seat for will be Dueling Dragons and Hulk.

And I do think they should take into account that the majority of people are larger these days. The average size is 14 now. I don't buy that it is the roller coaster builders that make all the decisions. Universal has a choice of who to buy from and how their coasters look and feel.

I am a bigger girl but if every other theme park can accomodate my size then why couldn't Universal. It is just not correct. And IMHO two seats on a whole train just doesn't cut it. Nothing like being embarrassed when two people need the bigger seats and get separated. Big people have it hard enough as is and then to add this to mix.

This is all about customer experience and satisfaction and if every other theme park can accomodate my size I would expect Universal to as well.

[micksterlee]

I am 6ft 1 and am 283 and was able to ride rides like the hulk fine but 2 years ago when i went to ioa and i was about 300 pound still fit but they did have to push down on the restraint and lol that wasn't fun for me or them :lmao:

I know when I rode the Mummy the guy had to jam the bar down and all I could think about during the ride was about how much pain I was in.

Being fat did have its funny side as well though, when we rode Rip Saw Falls as we were getting out of the logs I got stuck it was more due to the wet floor than anything else.I couldn't get traction to stand up.The poor little girl that was working at the dock got a look of fear on her face like she didn 't know what to do.

[the Dark Marauder]

Universal and the coaster designers have a grander scale than the US population. If all the seats were made larger, then those who are not of large size might be at a safety risk.

There are over 1.6 billion overweight people in the world, and the world's population is over 6.5 billion. That translates to around 25% of the world's population.

Universal is very accommodating. Safety is safety.

[MrDroopy]

Universal and the coaster designers have a grander scale than the US population. If all the seats were made larger, then those who are not of large size might be at a safety risk.

There are over 1.6 billion overweight people in the world, and the world's population is over 6.5 billion. That translates to around 25% of the world's population.

Universal is very accommodating. Safety is safety.

Well said! Next thing you know, you'll have all of the skinny people getting rejected because of the risk of falling out of these big seats!

[micksterlee]

Universal and the coaster designers have a grander scale than the US population. If all the seats were made larger, then those who are not of large size might be at a safety risk.

There are over 1.6 billion overweight people in the world, and the world's population is over 6.5 billion. That translates to around 25% of the world's population.

Universal is very accommodating. Safety is safety.

I have no problem with the whole safety thing but what I am saying is that I fit in other coaster seats at other places with no problem. I have yet to see a skinny person go flying off any of these coaster seats that I fit in. I don't want to start a debate about parks because I love both Disney and Universal and will visit both for many years to come even if I don't fit in a coaster but I don't understand why I fit in the Rock and Roll coaster just fine but I get on the Hulk and I don't fit even in the bigger seats. Just seems like if they can design one coaster with larger seats they could design others the same way.

[the Dark Marauder]

The train design for Rock N Rollercoaster is completely different than Hulk or DD.
<---Not trying to start any kind of debate either.

I'm sure it all boils down to a few things
1) cost--getting the most ride for the least $$$. Lowest bidder wins, of course.
2) the suits. 'Nuff said. :p

[KatyTheFairyPrincess]

I think it all boils down to what sort of coaster it is, I mean there is enough strain to the restraints as it is when the coasters go upseide down etc. But think of the added strain the extra weight puts on the restraints, so maybe that is why they have fewer "bigger seats". It will cost alot more to re-inforce the larger seats ect, and if alot of the seats were made for larger people think of the strain it would put on the ride, I don't think its right that larger people should be singled out, but if he majority of the seat were made for bigger person all the smaller people would be at risk, I think there has to be an agreed balance.
Also use the tester seats out front to save your time and embarresment, you could be riding loads of other rides instead of standing in line for an hour hoping that you'll have lost 10 pounds by the time you get to the front and will be able to fit.

I personally think its great that the coaster designers have even taken the time and thought to put in the larger seats, alot of small theme parks don't do this. I think we all just take so much for granted when we go on vacation, myself included.

[ky07]

Well like I said I am a big guy and really don't care for coasters anyway and the only reason I rode the hulk was for my father-in-law and as far as the mummy I love riding it and have no trouble fiting and I also understand about the embarrament of not checking with the test seat but think for a minute about that cause if its a busy time at the park then its just as much of an embarrassment for big people to hear snickers and comments from people walking by as you are using them for the test fit.
I know cause it happened to me and now I just go on ones I know I fit.:thumbsup2

[damo]

You will definitely be fine on Jurassic Park. The only two rides you will need the bigger seat for will be Dueling Dragons and Hulk.

And I do think they should take into account that the majority of people are larger these days. The average size is 14 now. I don't buy that it is the roller coaster builders that make all the decisions. Universal has a choice of who to buy from and how their coasters look and feel.

I am a bigger girl but if every other theme park can accomodate my size then why couldn't Universal. It is just not correct. And IMHO two seats on a whole train just doesn't cut it. Nothing like being embarrassed when two people need the bigger seats and get separated. Big people have it hard enough as is and then to add this to mix.

This is all about customer experience and satisfaction and if every other theme park can accomodate my size I would expect Universal to as well.

B&M is a highly sought after manufacturer that calls its own shots and uses the same vehicle format for the majority of its coasters. It is all about ride safety, enjoyment and capacity. I don't think that B&M is going to change things because the average size of Americans is a 14. The average size of a thrill ride seeker is most likely not 14. There is also a height limit and I don't think they should adjust that so all the children who want to ride can also ride. They've got enough clients around the world who are lining up to purchase their coasters without having to cater to people who don't fit into their range.

I have no problem with the whole safety thing but what I am saying is that I fit in other coaster seats at other places with no problem. I have yet to see a skinny person go flying off any of these coaster seats that I fit in. I don't want to start a debate about parks because I love both Disney and Universal and will visit both for many years to come even if I don't fit in a coaster but I don't understand why I fit in the Rock and Roll coaster just fine but I get on the Hulk and I don't fit even in the bigger seats. Just seems like if they can design one coaster with larger seats they could design others the same way.

Two different manufacturers who are dealing with two different types of clientelle and quality of ride experiences. I find the coasters at Disney extremely uncomfortable and shaky while the coasters at Universal are very comfortable and smooth. The design of the seats and restraints has something to do with that. Should B&M compromise their comfort to the majority of their riders for the benefit of the few?

[cuucuu4karaoke]

i found the test seats in front of the mummy to be off. They showed I easily fit with room to spare but once i got on the ride, they had to push me in so tight i thought i was gonna die.

[yaytezIOA]

RnRC is a Vekoma, one of the first coasters to have inversions. They are known to be shaky and rough. They use a different restraint system because there are only 3 inversions. Because of this, there does not have to be a buckle on the harness. They filed for bankruptcy in 2001 due to overspending and difficulties in opening three coasters.

Hulk has 6 inversions, and has a larger train. It is a B&M which is regarded in the industry, as was previously said, as the best. Hard Rock Park is making its signature coaster, Led Zeppelin, a B&M. IN FACT, when Space Mountan was redone at Disneyland, what type of track did they use? I think it was B&M. They have a very good reputation, and only rolled out their premiere coaster in 1990. However, in that short 17 years they have rolled out over 50coasters. If they were so rough, they would most likely not have done so many in such a short time.
http://www.coastergallery.com/Manu.html

[the Dark Marauder]

RnRC is a Vekoma, one of the first coasters to have inversions. They are known to be shaky and rough. They use a different restraint system because there are only 3 inversions. Because of this, there does not have to be a buckle on the harness. They filed for bankruptcy in 2001 due to overspending and difficulties in opening three coasters.

Hulk has 6 inversions, and has a larger train. It is a B&M which is regarded in the industry, as was previously said, as the best. Hard Rock Park is making its signature coaster, Led Zeppelin, a B&M. IN FACT, when Space Mountan was redone at Disneyland, what type of track did they use? I think it was B&M. They have a very good reputation, and only rolled out their premiere coaster in 1990. However, in that short 17 years they have rolled out over 50coasters. If they were so rough, they would most likely not have done so many in such a short time.
http://www.coastergallery.com/Manu.htmlHulk has 7 inversions. You know this. :darth:

[tink242424]

First off I just need to say that I don't feel larger seats are a safety issue. I have been to Six Flags Great Adventure & Busch Gardens Williamsburg and have been able to fit in every seat just fine. They have huge rollercoasters with inversions and smooth rides as well.

I don't think the issue is safety. I think the reason they have designed smaller seats is purely due to not thinking it through properly. :confused3

I understand things are going to change now as Universal isn't going to re-design the seats and cars for their rollercoasters. It is just nice to vent. Thin people don't always understand how it is to be overweight but still enjoy rides and have fear that you won't fit. It is especially embarrasing when you fit at every other theme park you go to.

Thanks to everyone for listening! ;)

[damo]

Batman at Great Adventure has the same seat size as Dueling Dragons. Alpie in Williamsburg has the same seat size as the Dueling Dragons as well. They are stock B&M seats.

[yaytezIOA]

Hulk has 7 inversions. You know this. :darth:

Yeah, but after the 4th, I kind of just get lulled to sleep:thumbsup2

As far as having bigger seats being a safety issue...yes, it kind of is. The coaster is designed with a certain number of seats in mind, and a certain size. If it goes over that size, then it may not make the loops or inversions. Ever wonder why dive coasters only have one or two inversions? The tracks cant take the stress of those heavy cars at that speed.
No, universal and disney can NOT simply change them if they want to. By doing that, it messes with the manufacturers specs and designs, and it becomes unsafe. Thinking it through properly? Yes, they have thought it through just fine. Lets look at it:
Carowinds has Top Gun, an inverted B&M. Where are the big seats? In the same rows as they are in Alpengeist, which is the same as Dueling Dragons, which is the same as Hulk, as Sheikra, as Montu, as Gwazi as Kumba, as.....I can go on. They are all B&M coasters...they all have the same seating arrangements. The only difference thus far has been Griffon. It uses big seats in all three rows, but it only has one. It also has 10 seats across, but three rows. Why is this different than sheikra? They are both B&M's right? Its different, as was explained to me by Larry Giles V.P. of ride design at BGE because Griffon is spread out over a larger area. Its "footprint" is different than Sheikras which is a lot tighter and hugs the turns a lot faster.
The heads of B&M have said that safety is their number 1 concern, while comfort is the 2nd.....expect the newer coasters to all have the larger seats in the future, as the tracks are wider. Can you tell the difference of the coasters with four seats across and two seats across? The tracks are, naturally wider on the four seats.

[Timmy Boy]

Gwazi is not a B&M.

Anywho, if you don't fit on the ride, please don't yell at the Cast Member or Team Member saying that it's their fault.

[yaytezIOA]

Gwazi is not a B&M.

Anywho, if you don't fit on the ride, please don't yell at the Cast Member or Team Member saying that it's their fault.

Sorry, got on a roll. But yeah, its not the CMs fault. Besides you dont want to be squeezed into a seat, its not fun.

[ky07]

I am a big person and if I don't fit thats just the way it goes and I would never blame a cast member cause its my fault not thiers:cool1:

[Lisa P.]

This is an interesting discussion. Often, I've read complaints from parents of shorter, daring children who don't meet the height requirements for thrill rides. It seems that the ride manufacturers try to accommodate as much of a range of body sizes and shapes as they can but it is more complicated than it looks at first glance. Shifting bodies through a ride sequence send enormous forces in different directions. Individual seats must bear this safely and so must the train, and the balance and location of its weights overall. They certainly want to be able to offer the broadest audience a fun, safe, thrilling ride as possible.

For me, I would not care one whit what some stranger or bystander thought if I am checking out a test seat. Anyone who is vocally critical of how someone looks while on vacation with their family and/or friends must live a sad, narrow life. I'm thankful that I don't have to live with them, aren't you? :eek: ;) So go ahead, check it out and plan to have a great time!!! :thumbsup2

[ahowanitz]

Do you think a person that is 5'11" and weighs 230 pounds will have a problem on these rides? I'm trying to gage whether it would be a problem or not, and I was just wondering if there was anyone out there around the same dimensions that has an idea. Thanks! :goodvibes

[micksterlee]

Do you think a person that is 5'11" and weighs 230 pounds will have a problem on these rides? I'm trying to gage whether it would be a problem or not, and I was just wondering if there was anyone out there around the same dimensions that has an idea. Thanks! :goodvibes

I don't think you will have a problem at all. We were there in June and I had problems with several rides but I am 5 11 and wear a size 46 waist.I have a large upper torso as well, built kinda like a wrestler or a power lifter.My stomach is very solid and will not give in when they try to force the restraints like we did at the Mummy.

[ahowanitz]

I don't think you will have a problem at all. We were there in June and I had problems with several rides but I am 5 11 and wear a size 46 waist.I have a large upper torso as well, built kinda like a wrestler or a power lifter.My stomach is very solid and will not give in when they try to force the restraints like we did at the Mummy.

Thanks for your help. That makes me feel better and much less worried! :goodvibes

[Dragonmouse]

FYI we just returned from Universal and IOA. My pooh bear hubby rode everything fine. He did use the modified seating (most of his weight is in his belly) on the Hulk and Dueling Dragons but otherwise everything was perfect. He did need to be pressed into Dueling Dragons a bit but he didn't mind at all.

The only one we didn't do was Dr Doom's Freefall. We just forgot it. We have been on that ride 100 at six flags...it seems to be the same thing. Unfortunately hubby doesn't fit on the ones at six flags so we blew it off.

Hopefully everything at Disney will be just as friendly

[angelfaerie52]

Universal and the coaster designers have a grander scale than the US population. If all the seats were made larger, then those who are not of large size might be at a safety risk.

There are over 1.6 billion overweight people in the world, and the world's population is over 6.5 billion. That translates to around 25% of the world's population.

Universal is very accommodating. Safety is safety.

I agree. What about kids? They won't fit in the seats if they are all made to large size. I can't sit in the large seats as I am very thin. There has to be a limit and there are likely weight limits for a coaster. There are also health risks involved, so sorry, they can't accomodate everyone!

[asmit4]

I agree. What about kids? They won't fit in the seats if they are all made to large size. I can't sit in the large seats as I am very thin. There has to be a limit and there are likely weight limits for a coaster. There are also health risks involved, so sorry, they can't accomodate everyone!

Exactly...think about it- these rides typically have a 48 inch or 52 inch height restriction. My cousin is 8yo, entering 3rd grade, 50 inches and fits into a size 8 childrens. She is a tiny person- as most 8yos are-she's just a little kid.
YET- she is allowed to ride HUGE coasters. Meanwhile- someone who is a size 14 womens, even a size 20 womens, over 200lbs, and is 70 inches tall can also ride in the SAME seats. I'm a size 10 women's and 5'8 and I think it's a real feat that they can make a coaster that safely fits both she and I in the same seat/restraint.

The reality is that they have to make these rides fit a 60lb 8yo and fit a 200lb woman- that's a huge task. Asking for these rides to carry that same 60lb child and a 270lb man- that's nearing impossible.

It's about safety and they have to make a ride that fits perhaps 80% of the population. That's just the way it is.

[phamton]

FYI we just returned from Universal and IOA. My pooh bear hubby rode everything fine. He did use the modified seating (most of his weight is in his belly) on the Hulk and Dueling Dragons but otherwise everything was perfect. He did need to be pressed into Dueling Dragons a bit but he didn't mind at all.



That is good to hear. I hope you both had a great time.

[doubletrouble_vb]

I don't really think weight is as much of a factor on the newer coasters as where you carry that weight. I'm 5'6" and have weighed a maximum of 230 pounds at a size 20. I carry a great deal of weight in my chest and stomach. Whether I was 160 pounds or 230 pounds shoulder harness rides aren't comfortable for me. The human shape is so variable that I can see ride designers just designing for the majority and not worrying about the rest. A 230 pound woman who carries her weight in an evenly distributed manner won't have the ride issues I have. On the other hand if she carried most of her weight in her lower half she might have a problem getting her rear into the seat but not have any problems with the shoulder harness.

You also have to look at the other problems with designing for a larger clientele. I don't remember what ride I was on but I think it was the Mummy. I was a single rider and the lap bar came down right at the top of my stomach. There were small children in the row with me and the bar didn't come close to them at all...because my size prevented it. On a more violent ride this might have been a problem.

[MrsSparrow..]

FYI we just returned from Universal and IOA. My pooh bear hubby rode everything fine. He did use the modified seating (most of his weight is in his belly) on the Hulk and Dueling Dragons but otherwise everything was perfect. He did need to be pressed into Dueling Dragons a bit but he didn't mind at all.

The only one we didn't do was Dr Doom's Freefall. We just forgot it. We have been on that ride 100 at six flags...it seems to be the same thing. Unfortunately hubby doesn't fit on the ones at six flags so we blew it off.

Hopefully everything at Disney will be just as friendly

Sounds like you had a great time! :)

I don't really bother with Dr Doom's anymore, there is no 'repeat ride' quality for me.

[phamton]

I don't remember what ride I was on but I think it was the Mummy. I was a single rider and the lap bar came down right at the top of my stomach. There were small children in the row with me and the bar didn't come close to them at all...because my size prevented it. On a more violent ride this might have been a problem. It was probably Jurassic Park or Cat in the Hat, because both Mummy and MIB have individual lap bars. But I do understand what you're saying.

[Twilightlover]

It's really sad that all these modifications need to happen. I guess I'm selfish and horrible but I would be scared to be 200+ lbs and on a coaster at US or WDW. I feel like that is putting a lot of pressure on the restraints and on the ride itself. It makes it unsafe for the other riders too. I'm sure it is hard to be overweight but wouldn't your safety be a goal to loose the weight?

[donaldduck352]

It's really sad that all these modifications need to happen. I guess I'm selfish and horrible but I would be scared to be 200+ lbs and on a coaster at US or WDW. I feel like that is putting a lot of pressure on the restraints and on the ride itself. It makes it unsafe for the other riders too. I'm sure it is hard to be overweight but wouldn't your safety be a goal to loose the weight?


That was a heck of a quote:In fact kinda judgemental..But everyone has a opinoin and that was yours..

So here is my opinion:I've always wieghed over 200lbs since I was 14YO
I'm not FAT.Matter of fact I'm in pretty good shape...

I'm now 38 and wiegh 240,but I can still bench press 300lbs..

So the wieght factor should not be a issue.They design coasters now-a -days to handle the worst case scenirio!!

I have never seen one come off the tracks due to overweight people on them,have you???

[asmit4]

I am at a loss re: the above comment about safety and losing weight.

The reality is that if you are over 200lbs and you fit in the ride- trust me, you ARE safe. If a person doesn't fit due to weight issues, then the ride would be unsafe and since they don't fit, they can't ride.

On a side note- I'll bet my next DW trip that you are a person who has never had a serious weight problem. You probably are able to eat whatever you want and have no troubles with keeping weight off. Don't bother coming back to refute how you count calories, have lost 40lbs blahblahblah...no one will believe you.

In the future- people who are overweight or have any other disability or issue don't need your criticism so please avoid such posts.

Oh, and you were right on 1 thing...what you said is selfish and horrible.

[donaldduck352]

I am at a loss re: the above comment about safety and losing weight.

The reality is that if you are over 200lbs and you fit in the ride- trust me, you ARE safe. If a person doesn't fit due to weight issues, then the ride would be unsafe and since they don't fit, they can't ride.

On a side note- I'll bet my next DW trip that you are a person who has never had a serious weight problem. You probably are able to eat whatever you want and have no troubles with keeping weight off. Don't bother coming back to refute how you count calories, have lost 40lbs blahblahblah...no one will believe you.

In the future- people who are overweight or have any other disability or issue don't need your criticism so please avoid such posts.

Oh, and you were right on 1 thing...what you said is selfish and horrible.

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/agree.gif

Thank you for a better response on that,that poster just opened a can of worms that the CB board would blush on :thumbsup2

[melanieh1]

Well, I am fat and I like to ride roller coasters. Just because I can't control my weight doesn't mean that I should not have fun also. Weight has always been an issue for me and continues to be. But, my weight is caused by an addiction to food (mainly chocolate and pepsi). Just like people who have addictions to cigarettes, drugs, alcohol, or whatever else and losing weight and keeping it off is easier said than done. I commend the people who do have the willpower to get it off and keep it off because I haven't found it yet. But, I don't think I should be punished or criticized.
Anyway, I have no trouble fitting on any of the disney rides (I am 5'5" and 280) but from reading some of these threads I am a little worried about Universal. I have read that if you pull the bar back with you as you sit down you will fit much easier. Do most of the rides do this or do you have to sit down first and then they release the bars once everyone is seated? Does anyone know if this will work for ROTM and the other rides? What about the new Simpson's ride? I heard they were turning some people away because of their size.

[Metro West]

Anyway, I have no trouble fitting on any of the disney rides (I am 5'5" and 280) but from reading some of these threads I am a little worried about Universal. I have read that if you pull the bar back with you as you sit down you will fit much easier. Do most of the rides do this or do you have to sit down first and then they release the bars once everyone is seated? Does anyone know if this will work for ROTM and the other rides? What about the new Simpson's ride? I heard they were turning some people away because of their size. The only rides I think you really need to worry about are the coasters and Ripsaw Falls. The coasters (Hulk, ROTM and DD) have the test seats out front...make sure you try them out before waiting in line only to find you won't fit. All three coasters have "big boy" seats in the third and sixth rows on each train. On ROTM...they use a gauge at the lower part of the restraint. If you are unable to pull it down past a certain point, they will direct you to the back row where you have more leg room and will fit better. Ripsaw is just tight...for a lot of people. I'm not sure about The Simpsons but if you were able to ride BTTF when it was open, you shouldn't have any problems...it's the same seating configuration.

Just remember Universal's rides are more intense than Disney's so there are tighter seating sometimes. Try out the test seating whenever possible and hopefully you can ride them all and have a great time!

[melanieh1]

Thank you! I don't remember about the seat configuration on BTTF. I haven't been in 2-3 yrs and I have gained about 20-30 lbs. since then. So do you think you could pull the bar down with you as you sit down and lock it? That is the only one I am really worried about. I loved it!! I know I should be able to fit in the other 2 with the extenders. Is Ripsaw any worse than Space Mtn?

[Metro West]

Thank you! I don't remember about the seat configuration on BTTF. I haven't been in 2-3 yrs and I have gained about 20-30 lbs. since then. So do you think you could pull the bar down with you as you sit down and lock it? That is the only one I am really worried about. I loved it!! I know I should be able to fit in the other 2 with the extenders. Is Ripsaw any worse than Space Mtn?I would Ripsaw is as bad as SM...if not worse. It aint a pretty sight watching me get my 6'2" frame out of either ride! On some rides you can pull the bar down as you're being seated...that might work for you.

[melanieh1]

Can you pull the bar down on ROTM as you are being seated?

[crashbb]

Are there any rides where a single bar covers both/all riders in a row? I'm pretty shrimpy (read - short) but will likely be traveling with my friend who is quite a bit bigger. Are there any rides where we might have a problem riding together? If we sit in the "big boy" seats, will I have a problem? Or is just one modified seat in each of the rows (I have a vague recollection that someone here said that).

[Metro West]

Can you pull the bar down on ROTM as you are being seated? ::yes::

Are there any rides where a single bar covers both/all riders in a row? I'm pretty shrimpy (read - short) but will likely be traveling with my friend who is quite a bit bigger. Are there any rides where we might have a problem riding together? If we sit in the "big boy" seats, will I have a problem? Or is just one modified seat in each of the rows (I have a vague recollection that someone here said that).I don't think you are going to have any issues. The "big boy" seats are only in rows three and six of each train...not every row. Just make sure your friend tries out the test seats in front to make sure they can ride. There are quite a few that will cover the whole row: Spiderman, JPRA, Cat in The Hat and Jaws just to name a few.

[crashbb]

Sorry - I left words out of my post. What I meant to ask is - would I be alright sitting in rows 3/6 if I'm not large. Or, if my friend needs the "big boy" seats, should be sit in different rows for that ride. Are all the seats within rows 3 and 6 (on those two rides) modified?

[Metro West]

Sorry - I left words out of my post. What I meant to ask is - would I be alright sitting in rows 3/6 if I'm not large. Or, if my friend needs the "big boy" seats, should be sit in different rows for that ride. Are all the seats within rows 3 and 6 (on those two rides) modified?There is only the one modified seat in those rows but anyone can ride in them. The difference is two buckles instead of one. Most people wouldn't even know the difference. If your friend needs the modified seat, you certainly can ride with them.

[billwendy]

Okay not to beat the subject - but I want to make sure DH would enjoy US/IOA.

He is 6' and 340ish - he fits on everything at disney (including coasters) - he is bigger at the chest and tummy (size 50 waist) 3XL shirts. What do you all think? Do you think I'll need the big seats too? 240ish 5'6 pretty proportional.....are the test seats out front the modified seats?

Thanks!!

[melanieh1]

Okay not to beat the subject - but I want to make sure DH would enjoy US/IOA.

He is 6' and 340ish - he fits on everything at disney (including coasters) - he is bigger at the chest and tummy (size 50 waist) 3XL shirts. What do you all think? Do you think I'll need the big seats too? 240ish 5'6 pretty proportional.....are the test seats out front the modified seats?

Thanks!!

I'm not sure about DH but you should be fine. Last time I went, I was 5'5" and weighed probably 250 or 60 and fit on everything just fine. (didn't ride DD or Hulk though, didn't know about the seatbelt extenders)

[Metro West]

He is 6' and 340ish - he fits on everything at disney (including coasters) - he is bigger at the chest and tummy (size 50 waist) 3XL shirts. What do you all think? Do you think I'll need the big seats too? 240ish 5'6 pretty proportional.....are the test seats out front the modified seats?

Thanks!!I definately think he would need the modified seats on Hulk and DD. The test seats are in front of both ride entrances. Also...ROTM has modified seating out front as well.

[Twilightlover]

I am at a loss re: the above comment about safety and losing weight.

The reality is that if you are over 200lbs and you fit in the ride- trust me, you ARE safe. If a person doesn't fit due to weight issues, then the ride would be unsafe and since they don't fit, they can't ride.

On a side note- I'll bet my next DW trip that you are a person who has never had a serious weight problem. You probably are able to eat whatever you want and have no troubles with keeping weight off. Don't bother coming back to refute how you count calories, have lost 40lbs blahblahblah...no one will believe you.

In the future- people who are overweight or have any other disability or issue don't need your criticism so please avoid such posts.

Oh, and you were right on 1 thing...what you said is selfish and horrible.

I go to the gym and I make healthy choices instead of a candy bar i have a soyjoy bar. That's because I don't want to die because of my health. With a diabetic parent and a family history of High Blood pressure, I think taking care of myself, watching what I eat and getting off the couch three times a week is vital. Someone commented that being overweight is a disability. How can you compare being overweight to someone who can't walk because they were born without the necessary parts or ability. When if you just started to move a bit more and fight through the pain that is your body adjusting to activity, you could do more and slim down. It's not a disability. Get off the couch, start walking, bring a healthy lunch to work. Food is not an addiction, the only thing your body NEEDS is water. To say that you're addicted is a slap in the face to those who are addicted with real problems. I just think it's laziness, and society has made it OK to be that way. IMHO

[asmit4]

So let me get this straight....you are healthy, thin and eat well, and think that fat people are all lazy.

Yet, you come on the DIS boards...and open up a thread devoted ENTIRELY to helping pooh sized guests determine if they can ride a ride. I can't change how you feel about 'fat' people and I certainly won't try...but can you at least tell me WHY you come on here blasting people??? Why can't you just keep your negativity to yourself? If you don't like 'fat' people and find them lazy, then why come on this post?

I am all about trying to be supportive of people and if for some reason I find a post that I am not wanting to help with or don't have something positive to say about it, then I just simply ignore it. Why spread hatred and negativity? The DIS boards are all about HELPING others. If you can't help, then don't post.

[Twilightlover]

I am helping by saying instead of trying to figure out if you just barely make it into a seat go on a diet or go to the gym, start walking now. Instead of making things change for you why not change yourself for the better? I never said I was thin. I think I'm average weight, but that takes work. Before I go on vacation I try to lose a couple of pounds if need be. I don't find modified chairs to be a the right idea in a world were obesity is an epidemic.

I came to this thread to see if i could help. I was trying to be the voice that said, "No it's not ok that your're overweight. You can do better! :thumbsup2 You can change so that you don't have to be uncomfortable in an airplane seat or have to worry about getting on a roller coaster.

[coopscs]

Whatever......I was taught that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all, so I'll shut up. But, there are people in the world who think they are better than others and feel the need to say so. :confused3 Go figure. Enjoy your soybar!:rolleyes2

[schumigirl]

Whatever......I was taught that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all, so I'll shut up. But, there are people in the world who think they are better than others and feel the need to say so. :confused3 Go figure. Enjoy your soybar!:rolleyes2

Totally agree with you!
Going a little off topic what on earth is a soyjoy bar???? It sounds anything but a joy to me :confused3

[donaldduck352]

DING-DING-DING....LETS GET READY TO RUUUUMMMBBBLLLEE!!


oh by the way,im eating a big bowl of ben& jerrys and sitting on the couch right now ;)

[schumigirl]

oh by the way,im eating a big bowl of ben& jerrys and sitting on the couch right now ;)

Sounds like a good night to me, love Ben and Jerry`s especially caramel choochoo and the marshmallow one :thumbsup2 Got a large red wine in front of me here. Well it is 8.15pm here :cool1:

[donaldduck352]

Sounds like a good night to me, love Ben and Jerry`s especially caramel choochoo and the marshmallow one :thumbsup2 Got a large red wine in front of me here. Well it is 8.15pm here :cool1:

My is Everything But The--It has it all :thumbsup2

[asmit4]

I am helping by saying instead of trying to figure out if you just barely make it into a seat go on a diet or go to the gym, start walking now. Instead of making things change for you why not change yourself for the better? I never said I was thin. I think I'm average weight, but that takes work. Before I go on vacation I try to lose a couple of pounds if need be. I don't find modified chairs to be a the right idea in a world were obesity is an epidemic.

I came to this thread to see if i could help. I was trying to be the voice that said, "No it's not ok that your're overweight. You can do better! :thumbsup2 You can change so that you don't have to be uncomfortable in an airplane seat or have to worry about getting on a roller coaster.

Maybe you can work at Weight Watchers and "help" all the 'lazy overweight' folks there. Be sure to start off the meeting on why you feel it is not 'ok' to be overweight and how you feel that overweight people are 'lazy'. :lmao:

[donaldduck352]

Is it me or does it sound like Richard Simmons is posting :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

[minniejack]

I watched a group of young teen girls stand in line so they could be at the front of DD. Well, they had to take one of the girls and put her in the modified seats. You could tell she was embarassed, but at least she was able to ride the rides and her friends moved so they could be closer to her on the ride.:grouphug:

[Twilightlover]

So if they are not lazy please explain to me how one gets that overweight? Explain to me how someone can see the pounds and fat layering on but sits and does nothing. To say you're addicted to food is lame. You can be addicted to food and go to the gym.

[minniejack]

It's really sad that all these modifications need to happen. I guess I'm selfish and horrible but I would be scared to be 200+ lbs and on a coaster at US or WDW. I feel like that is putting a lot of pressure on the restraints and on the ride itself. It makes it unsafe for the other riders too. I'm sure it is hard to be overweight but wouldn't your safety be a goal to loose the weight?

Uhhhhh, since when is 200# over weight? My DH see 2 specialists and 1 internal med guy every 3 months. He is 6'2" and 220--none have ever called him overweight. When he did go down to 210 he looked emaciated. Did you ever hear the theory that muscle weighs more?

Also, for everyone else out there it is the 80/20 rule. They build and market for 80 percent not the other 20 percent.

Also, OP let's just say that you are trying to be helpful by suggesting to lose weight before the rides and we won't go there by suggesting otherwise.....

I am a size 8 and was offended by your comments.

[minniejack]

Sounds like a good night to me, love Ben and Jerry`s especially caramel choochoo and the marshmallow one :thumbsup2 Got a large red wine in front of me here. Well it is 8.15pm here :cool1:

OMG I was just reading and drinking my 2nd glass of red wine:lmao:

[donaldduck352]

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/feedtroll.gif They are Dw lovers that are posting overhere to get under your skin(Twilightlover-yeah you)..

All you do is http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/blahblah.gif And most the places you post on is the DW side!!

We are nice overhere too a point>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[donaldduck352]

Uhhhhh, since when is 200# over weight? My DH see 2 specialists and 1 internal med guy every 3 months. He is 6'2" and 220--none have ever called him overweight. When he did go down to 210 he looked emaciated. Did you ever hear the theory that muscle weighs more?

Also, for everyone else out there it is the 80/20 rule. They build and market for 80 percent not the other 20 percent.

Also, OP let's just say that you are trying to be helpful by suggesting to lose weight before the rides and we won't go there by suggesting otherwise.....

I am a size 8 and was offended by your comments.

I'm a MAN,stand 5'9 and wiegh 230.I find offense to this post cuase of the fact that SOME PEEPS cann't get of there HI-Horse and except what this world is(NOT YOURS WITH SLIM-FAST AND SOYBARS:confused3 )

Oh my waist size----33"---oh talk about FAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ky07]

So if they are not lazy please explain to me how one gets that overweight? Explain to me how someone can see the pounds and fat layering on but sits and does nothing. To say you're addicted to food is lame. You can be addicted to food and go to the gym.

Lets see if I can do this without being mean.
I am 6ft 285 and I am not lazy and yes over weight but due to an accident I have nerve damage wich makes it impossible to go to the gym and for you just to judge people is just wrong and just have to say come and live in my world and lets see if you say get off the couch and move a little and sorry if you take offence to this and its not a personal attack but a point of view .

[donaldduck352]

Lets see if I can do this without being mean.
I am 6ft 285 and I am not lazy and yes over weight but due to an accident I have nerve damage wich makes it impossible to go to the gym and for you just to judge people is just wrong and just have to say come and live in my world and lets see if you say get off the couch and move a little and sorry if you take offence to this and its not a personal attack but a point of view .

She will just come back and say your not trying hard enough:sad2:
Watch and see if I'm wrong!!!!!!!!!!!

[Twilightlover]

Lets see if I can do this without being mean.
I am 6ft 285 and I am not lazy and yes over weight but due to an accident I have nerve damage wich makes it impossible to go to the gym and for you just to judge people is just wrong and just have to say come and live in my world and lets see if you say get off the couch and move a little and sorry if you take offence to this and its not a personal attack but a point of view .

First off there's no need for you to be offended because I wasn't speaking about people who honestly CAN'T workout IE someone like you. Also clearly someone who stands at 6ft. would have to be 200 lbs. That's logical. I'm speaking of weight in relation to height or even age. There is no reason a teenager should be overweight. What bothers me are the women and men I see who use scooters to get around because they are overweight. I just feel like they are giving up on life, just haven't tried or have no one to motivate them. I'm not trying to attack anyone. I'm attacking a lifestyle that can be changed if one worked at it. If you want to lose weight you can without going to the gym, you can go to a nutritionists. I know this for a fact because I lost 20 lbs in 2 weeks just by changing some of my choices. There are so many tools out there for overweight people.

[gschmerl]

Twilightlover ,
You continue to be totally judgemental. You have no idea why those people are in the scooter. Maybe they too have injuries that prevent them from getting around and working out.
Why don't you just go on enjoying your thin body and let us overwieght people deal with our own lives!
Stop people bashing--it is even less becoming than extra pounds!

[d4est]

1--For most people, eating is a pleasurable experience. It's a biological necessity (you said only water??) that most cultures have elevated to a high social status. But for some, eating is a compulsion. Men and women of all ages force themselves to eat too much or too little, and suffer tremendous psychological pain when they do. Eating, body weight and image become an obsession that damages relationships and has serious medical consequences.

Food addiction is a disorder characterized by preoccupation with food, the availability of food and the anticipation of pleasure from the ingestion of food.

Food addiction involves the repetitive consumption of food against the individuals better judgment resulting in loss of control and preoccupation or the restriction of food and preoccupation with body weight and image.

It is real, not a "lame" excuse.

2--If you lost 20 pounds in 2 weeks, you did not do it in a healthy manner. Safe weight loss is about 2 pounds per week, tops. On low carb, I can take off 20 pounds in a month, but no way in 2 weeks. The only way would be if you were a rather large individual or a man--they lose faster than women, lucky boogers.

3--asmit4 hit it...unless you've dealt with this, you have no idea what it's really like. To sit back and judge or to suggest simple solutions..."hey, get off your a$$ and go to the gym," well, that's just wrong. So healthy choices are easy for you. Terrific, but it's just not that simple. If it were that easy, we would have a lot less overweight people in the world. Are there some overweight people who just don't exercise? Of course, but you over generalized. For many, it's just not easy. Good for you that it is and I pray you never have to experience otherwise.

[Twilightlover]

I never said it was easy. In fact i know it's hard to go to the gym, and the make correct choices. Nothing worthwhile is easy. I lost 20lbs by simple diet and exercise. Did it suck eating brown rice and broccoli, yes! But my body looks better and I feel better about myself. It was healthy, no pills, no diet shakes. Lots of fruit, veggies, and lean meat. As far as personally dealing with it, I've watched my mother struggle with her weight all my life, but one day, at 38yo, she said after almost passing out walking up the stairs, "Being fat sucks. I have to change so I don't die at 40." She lost weight by going on walks, taking the stairs more often, cutting as much fat as possible out of her diet, not buying crap food at the grocery store, simple changes.

Food addiction?:rotfl2: How about excuses. Instead of eating an entire bag of chips, buy baked lays and have a small bowl. I think the excuses people make about why they can't lose weight are ridiculous. Overweight people don't lose weight because they don't want to. They make excuses and then they have people support their excuses with, "oh it's OK you can't help yourself". YOU CAN help yourself. It's going to suck and it's going to be hard but when you see the pounds disappear you'll become even more motivated to keep going. This is why I like, "The Biggest Loser" because Jillian Michael's calls people out on their inability to push themselves.

[gschmerl]

Twilightlover
,
Boy...it must be nice to be so perfect!!
Have you ever taken the time to truly "LISTEN" to what anyone else is saying!!???
I am a heavy person who goes to the gym five times a week, eats healthy food, and still is overweight. I inherited my mothers slow metabolism. I am healthy, but still overweight. I am probably stronger (due to my workouts) than my skinny friends, but I'm sure you would look at me and assume I was a lazy pig!

[d4est]

You really have no idea. Really.

Watching your mother is not the same as living it. And it doesn't sound like your mother had any kind of eating disorder. ie. Anorexia Nervosa, Bulimia Nervosa or Compulsive Overeating.

Curious...did you ever tell your mother she was fat because she was lazy?

Article from USAToday:

Obesity has long been blamed on weak willpower, overeating, genetics and lack of exercise. Now scientists increasingly are seeing signs that suggest there may be an additional contributor: food addiction.

Monday night and again today, dozens of the nation's leading researchers in obesity, nutrition and addiction planned to discuss whether food has addictive properties for some people. They're gathering in New Haven, Conn., at a meeting sponsored by Yale University's Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity.

"We believe that there is sufficient science to suggest there is something to this, so we are bringing the leading authorities together to decide whether food addiction is real and what the underlying psychology and biology might be," says Kelly Brownell, director of the Rudd Center.

"It's surprising that our field has overlooked this concept for so long," he says. "Society blames obesity only on the people who have it and has been close-minded to other explanations." (People like you, it seems)

Support for the idea of food addiction comes from animal and human studies, including brain imaging research on humans, says Mark Gold, chief of addiction medicine at the McKnight Brain Institute at the University of Florida, who is a co-chair for the meeting.

I think the excuses people make about why they can't lose weight are ridiculous. Overweight people don't lose weight because they don't want to.

This is one of the most asinine things I have ever ready. Especially that last sentence. How many overweight people out there do you think wake up everyday and love their image?

Some more info for you to ponder:

Addiction

During binges compulsive overeaters consume as much as 5,000 calories and up to 60,000 calories per day, which results as an addictive "high" not unlike those experienced through drug usage, and a release from psychological stress. In bulimics, this high may be intensified by the act of purging. Some researchers have speculated there is an abnormality of endorphin metabolism in the brain of binge eaters that triggers the addictive process. This is inline with other theories of addiction that attribute it not to avoidance of withdrawal symptoms, but to a primary problem in the reward centers of the brain. Further, research has shown that those with eating disorders most often crave high carbohydrate “comfort foods” and use these during binges. The ingestion of these foods causes release of the neurotransmitter, serotonin. This could be another sign of neurobiological factors contributing to the addictive process. Abstinence from addictive food and food eating processes causes withdrawal symptoms in those with eating disorders. There may be higher levels of depression and anxiety due to the decreased levels of serotonin in the individual.[2]

There are complexities with the biology of compulsive eating that separate it from a pure substance abuse analogy. Food is a complex mixture of chemicals that can affect the body in multiple ways, which is magnified stomach-brain communication. In some ways, it may be much more difficult for compulsive overeaters to recover than addicts. There is an anecdotal saying among Overeaters Anonymous members that "when you are addicted to drugs you put the tiger in the cage to recover; when you are addicted to food you put the tiger in the cage, but take it out three times a day for a walk."[2]

The physical explanation of compulsive overeating may be attributed to an overeaters' increased tendency to secrete insulin at the sight and smell of food, though medical evidence supporting this is controversial.[3]

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_overeating#cite_note-WEINER1998-2

[minniejack]

I'm a MAN,stand 5'9 and wiegh 230.I find offense to this post cuase of the fact that SOME PEEPS cann't get of there HI-Horse and except what this world is(NOT YOURS WITH SLIM-FAST AND SOYBARS:confused3 )

Oh my waist size----33"---oh talk about FAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dd352--I hope I didn't offend you (or anyone else for that matter).

I was trying to get twilight to see the daylight. ;)

This post will probably be closed soon just because someone innocently was trying to find out before they spent lots of money on a vacation whether they could fit in really cool rides. Go figure.

[Twilightlover]

What's sad is that people let themselves go or give up or don't try hard enough, then those people look at people like myself as the enemy. I'm horrible for not being empathetic to the situation in your eyes. Whatever, don't really care. All i know is I will be damned if i ever get that big. I respect my body, and my image too much to get that way. No matter how you want to twist it, the OP should try and lose weight before you goes on vacation.

BTW Wikipedia is the least credible sourced out there.

[minniejack]

What's sad is that people let themselves go or give up or don't try hard enough, then those people look at people like myself as the enemy. I'm horrible for not being empathetic to the situation in your eyes. Whatever, don't really care. All i know is I will be damned if i ever get that big. I respect my body, and my image too much to get that way. No matter how you want to twist it, the OP should try and lose weight before you goes on vacation.

BTW Wikipedia is the least credible sourced out there.

When you are in your 20's as you are and have no kids as you do. It is easy to say how to lose weight or to see overweight people as failures.

I was in your shoes and had the same attitude about overweight people when I was young--then life and metabolism happens. Our family adheres to a diabetic diet so that hereditary diabetes will not strike. Alcohol occasionally-1-2x a month for me--fruits veggies, walking (not strolling) 1-2 miles a day. And now trying to beat our teens at athletics and yet, do we look like we came out of an ad?:laughing:

What you have written has been inflammatory to overweight people and it just needs to be toned down. You have your opinions, please don't keep posting them because this is an argument that doesn't need repeating.

This is most people's happy place--please do not make it so confrontational. The original poster just wanted info--not slammed for their problem.

[Figaro]

I try not to get into a discussion about weight and weight loss, mostly because it is pretty much impossible for some people to understand how our bodies are designed to hold onto every single pound we gain and give them up grudgingly if at all. I suggest that anyone who is interested read Gina Kolata's book: "Rethinking Thin" where she explains why diets don't work in the longterm.

And as a person who never ate as much as my slim husband but out-weighed him by about 100 pounds, I know from experience that some people win the genetic crapshoot (and then believe that they are somehow better than others)(sigh) and some people lose. When I started a new medication that wasn't for weight loss, I lost 100 pounds in about 6 months from doing nothing. My metabolism sped up and now I weigh less than my spouse (and we are the same height). :) But I didn't lose weight because I dieted (which had never worked in the past), but because of an unexpected side effect of a medication. I still ate and eat the same amount I always did and weigh considerably less.

If it was as simple as eat less and exercise more then there wouldn't be any fat people in the world. Quite obviously, it is not.

And that is what I have to say on this topic. :)

[donaldduck352]

dd352--I hope I didn't offend you (or anyone else for that matter).

I was trying to get twilight to see the daylight. ;)

This post will probably be closed soon just because someone innocently was trying to find out before they spent lots of money on a vacation whether they could fit in really cool rides. Go figure.


I took no offense to it:thumbsup2 .I was doing the samething.But twilight wonn't listen!!!:sad2:

My DW best friend wieghs close too 300lbs.Is she a couch potatoe no.She is a nurse in her 40's that outworks the 20somethings'.We goto BG Tampa with her and I'm ready to take break long before she is even thinking about it:confused3

Some people carry thier weight diffrent!!!!!!!!!!!

[d4est]

For someone to listen, one's mind would have to be open to new ideas or concepts. What she believes is of little consequence as most here are open minded. It's unfortunate, however, that there are people who feel they need to share hurtful, negative opinions without boning up on facts. You are always entitled to an opinion...but you don't always have to share it.

[phamton]

This forum deals with Universal Studios and is not the place for a discussion on why people are overweight. It is definitely not the place for judging overweight people. There is a forum for dieting and encouragement called the W.I.S.H. board here: http://disboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=59 But once again, it is also not forum for debating.

I am closing this thread and want to thank those of you who showed patience and restraint in your replies.