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BobNoxious
08-02-2007, 10:28 AM
After I had made my ADRs, I called back a few days later and added a couple more ADRs for 2 of the same nights (because I did not know what park I would be at), and the Disney Dining Reservation person saw I had another reservation at the same night, and asked if that was accurate. She said she would have to cancel that. She said she would not be able to take two around the same time on the same night, and if she did that the "system" would cancel the first ADR made, assuming the latest one is the correct one. '

newarknut
08-02-2007, 10:37 AM
I don't know, but, I hope she is. I think there are alot of people who make multiple ADR's at the same time. That prevents others from securing ADR's. It doesn't help me plan for my Christmas vacation if you cancel your ADR a few days prior to the actual date.

I realize you might not know where you'll be on that day, however, I think this is a good move by Disney. We almost need to plan our days by where our ADR's are made, assuming you couldn't secure the ADR you wanted for a particular day.

I hope I haven't offended you with my reply.

Peace out :rolleyes1

BobNoxious
08-02-2007, 10:39 AM
nope. no offense. I was actually editting my reply thinking the same thing. I experienced a lot of trouble planning out my ADRs (5 months in advance... darnit!) and I understand. For the record I only have 1 adr per night.

I agree. everyone should have 1 ADR per night... and if you change your plans... cancel that ADR.

tinkerbellblondie19
08-02-2007, 11:02 AM
I think that planning around food is insane. It's food people! Yes, some is better than others. But it's kind of a trivial thing to plan around, don't you think?

cdnmickeylover
08-02-2007, 12:16 PM
For some of us the food is important. Planning around the food is fun for us. We've been to WDW dozens of times now and have decided to no longer commando park tour and concentrate on eating at all the different restaurants at WDW at least once. So to each his own. Some people plan around the rides they are going to go on, what hotel to stay in and yes some of us plan around the food we are going to eat.

Annette_VA
08-02-2007, 12:39 PM
I think that's a good move. Of course, I'm sure people will still find a way around it, like making ADRs in different names or something.

We do our planning around our ADRs as well. If we want to eat in Epcot on a particular day, then that becomes our Epcot park day. Makes sense to me!

Cruz Family
08-02-2007, 12:46 PM
I think that planning around food is insane. It's food people! Yes, some is better than others. But it's kind of a trivial thing to plan around, don't you think?

Everybody is different, and if you are one of those people who don't care where they will eat then so be it.
What I personally do not understand is what do you plan around? Attractions? I know I like to have a bit of a plan on what to see and do when. But when it comes down to I can get on any ride I choose, not everyone can get in any restaurant they choose!

Dining is important to me, so I plan around it. It's not important to you, so you don't. I don't see a problem!

tinkerbellblondie19
08-02-2007, 12:56 PM
More of what I meant was that it's slightly...I really can't come up with a good word to describe it, at least that couldn't be taken as insulting. I'm just saying that if you plan everything around where your ADR's are, and you plan your ADR's 6 months in advance, you end up at Magic Kingdom on the first day because you planned to eat at Crystal Palace, when you really were in the mood to go to Epcot to ride Test Track.

DisneyKevin
08-02-2007, 01:08 PM
I have stated in the podcast that I think it's really bad form to "double book" ADRs when we all know how hard some of them are to secure.

That being said...we also have to keep in mind that everyone has their own "agenda" or plan when visiting WDW. To some...their attraction "plan of attack" is what's important....to others, dining in the restaurant of their choice is equally important.

When recording our podcast, we try to keep all of that in mind and offer something for all points of view. As one of these threads shows, we have listeners from all over and we are thrilled to have them.

We have to keep an open mind when discussing topics such as this and realize that each visitor's situation is unique and just as important to them as yours is to you.

Thanks for keeping this thread friendly.:cool1:

Kevin

JC14
08-02-2007, 01:08 PM
Tink, the problem with that is if you don't make your ADRs 6 months in advance, you won't get any at all.

For me its part of the fun. I love mapping out where to go and what to do each day. Of course it gets altered when you get there sometimes, but a general framework makes things easier. Especially when you have a big group.

Cruz Family
08-02-2007, 01:14 PM
More of what I meant was that it's slightly...For lack of a better word, pathetic. And I don't mean that to be insulting. I'm just saying that if you plan everything around where your ADR's are, and you plan your ADR's 6 months in advance, you end up at Magic Kingdom on the first day because you planned to eat at Crystal Palace, when you really were in the mood to go to Epcot to ride Test Track.

Okay so lets reverse it......I have an ADR for LeCellier but I am in the mood to ride Rockin Rollercoaster. Why on earth wouldn't I ride later or tomorrow rather then get stuck eating the crappy counter service at MGM.

BTW, I think many of us plan ahead of time (considering park hours, show times, etc.) of what park will would like to be in when. That, much of the time, dictates where we will make our ADR's. Not the other way around.

BobNoxious
08-02-2007, 01:26 PM
I don't PLAN around the food, but I plan my parks, then make the ADRs around the parks. Unfortunately Disney makes this a task I need to do several months in advance ... since the only way to get at a table in dinner time (for us 5:30-7:00pm) at a restaurant we like (at the park I planned first)! So... I am planning my PARKS several months in advance, then my restaurants, then my ADRs are called in, then I go to the park... hopefully I knew SEVERAL MONTHS in advance which park I wanted to be at each night around dinner time... This is why some people make 2 ADRs (not me!!). One at one park, one at another... for those spur of the moment changes like you suggest (but still being able to sit down and eat dinner with your family).

With one ADR (which I am fine with) for dinner... that kinda means you are locked into that park. (if you want a sit-down dinner at dinner-time, of course) What if I planned months in advance to be at MK on night 4, and I know that my family wants to EAT a meal for dinner (not a corn-dog counter service).. so I schedule a dinner 6 months out... for that night at THAT park. now, if someone says "hey Dad, instead of MK, can we all go to Epcot tonight instead". This sounds great! However, with only 1 ADR at 1 park , that would involve cancelling the dinner reservation (which is pretty easy to do), and TRYING to get food during DINNER hour at a SIT down table meal.

That is why some of us plan this out. That is why some hurt the system by making multiple ADRs. I will stick with one ADR per night. If everyone did this, the system may work better.

digman6
08-02-2007, 01:42 PM
I think its great some of you DON'T PLAN your ADRs, that means I get to eat were you will not be that night. :lmao:

DisneyKevin
08-02-2007, 01:59 PM
Ok folks.....please let's keep this friendly.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and to voice. Let's just keep it out of the "personal attack" area.

Thanks,
Kevin

astrodrummergirl
08-02-2007, 02:01 PM
Good for disney making ADR's v2.0, they don't want people to be messing up their system too by making them keep a table empty for a group which isn't going to turn up. I also agree that once you have gone to a place many times, its fun to think about other things than attractions, including restaurants which can be an attraction within themselves.

As for myself, on our trip, we will be spontanious, we aren't particularly bothered if we don't get into a sit down restaurant in a park (even though it would be nice) and since we won't know where we're going til the night before, no ADRs for us (also as we booked the actual trip only in may, the thought that ADRs would be no longer available helped too)

PS, V. grateful to those who cancel their ADRs. TIA to them.

tinkerbellblondie19
08-02-2007, 02:06 PM
The planning your food around the parks concept makes more sense to me. Personally, locking yourself into your meal 6 months in advance when you don't even know for a fact where you will be doesn't make sense. Planning in advance, yes, but I'd plan the parks first and then the food.

TinkerFairy
08-02-2007, 02:08 PM
One thing to say and that's yay for park hoppers!

If we decide to go to a different park, we can always hop over for our dinner later on. Granted, I took EMH and everything else into consideration while booking our ADR's, but things don't always go as planned.

I'm a slave to my stove, and it isn't very often we go out to eat, so in Disney of all places, we'd like to enjoy some great dinners, that I DIDN'T have to cook myself.
If that means I have to plan 6 months in advance of where we will be eating, so be it. I'd rather be set in stone at a table service then be stuck trying to find decent counter service food any night.

So DF thought I was a little batty waking up to make reservations at a restraunt we wouldn't be seeing for a while? He'll enjoy it when we get our tasty foodstuffs, and tell me how great it is I planned everything out and he didn't have to worry about a thing.:rolleyes1

tinkerbellblondie19
08-02-2007, 02:17 PM
^^Yes, decent counterservice, without a line that you'll be in for hours, is soooo hard to find at 6-7 at night.

3gkids
08-02-2007, 02:17 PM
A good Disney Trip does require a lot of planning but for those occassions when you might want to be in 1 park with an ADR in another, isn't that what park hopper passes are meant for?

21 days and counting for our umpteenth visit.

BobNoxious
08-02-2007, 02:37 PM
A good Disney Trip does require a lot of planning but for those occassions when you might want to be in 1 park with an ADR in another, isn't that what park hopper passes are meant for?

Yup. That takes care of the rides... now what to do when your fam of 4 wants dinner (and you pre-paid for DDP which includes a sit down dinner), but no reservation in the other park. This is why some try and make 2 ADRs.

DisneyKevin
08-02-2007, 04:05 PM
It is things like people making multiple ADRs and not showing up that causes Disney to do things like requiring a credit card deposit...not just a hold... but a deposit, in order to secure a reservation.

While I have no knowledge of this happening or even being rumored to happen for regular reservations...there have been times in the past that this has been the case.

If everyone that made a reservation , made a duplicate and unnecessary reservation...few of us would get to dine anywhere, let alone our restaurant of choice.

It is also things like this...when the few decide to circumvent the system...that Disney decides to change what was a good thing for most...to something more difficult for everyone.

Please make no mistake about this....my opinion of making a duplicate and unnecessary dining reservation just to make a last minute decsison as to where you might like to dine is bad form...pure and simple.

We hear the same excuses...but what if we're not sure?.....what if I'm in a different place?...I paid a lot of money for this vacation.....it will ruin my vacation if I dont get to.....my kid's live will be scarred...

Taking up more reservations then you need due to indecision, bad planning or thinking that you are more deserving then the next family for whatever reason is BAD FORM.

As Bob says....thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

Kevin

eliza61
08-02-2007, 04:16 PM
I think that planning around food is insane. It's food people! Yes, some is better than others. But it's kind of a trivial thing to plan around, don't you think?

Yep, unfortunately if you go during the busiest times they are a necessary evil.:goodvibes Last March we went to disney with no adr's it was fantastic and we had a TS each and every day! Now we are going again in November and I've only made 1 adr. So hopefully fortune will shine on me again.

Cruz Family
08-02-2007, 04:26 PM
We hear the same excuses...but what if we're not sure?.....what if I'm in a different place?...I paid a lot of money for this vacation.....it will ruin my vacation if I dont get to.....my kid's live will be scarred...


Oh the horror!!!!!....:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

Thinktinknpixiedust
08-02-2007, 05:24 PM
Howdy neighbor:wave2: Thanks for the "official" Adr stance... all of us trying to get ADR's thanks you!nope. no offense. I was actually editting my reply thinking the same thing. I experienced a lot of trouble planning out my ADRs (5 months in advance... darnit!) and I understand. For the record I only have 1 adr per night.

I agree. everyone should have 1 ADR per night... and if you change your plans... cancel that ADR.

Thinktinknpixiedust
08-02-2007, 05:27 PM
[QUOTE=TinkerFairy;20077189]I'm a slave to my stove, and it isn't very often we go out to eat, so in Disney of all places, we'd like to enjoy some great dinners, that I DIDN'T have to cook myself.
If that means I have to plan 6 months in advance of where we will be eating, so be it. I'd rather be set in stone at a table service then be stuck trying to find decent counter service food any night/

boy did you really say it!! Amen:worship:

Boardwalker
08-03-2007, 08:29 PM
We consider the restaurants as important as the rides, and plan our ADRs around what the parks hours are and which ones have EMH. It can kind of be like a triganometry problem when everything gets weighed in, and of course it is crazy. But the planning is half the fun for me.

I would never make more than one ADR, and if at the time we decide something else matters more than leaving one park for dinner in another, we cancel our ADR and make do. It is common courtesy not to shut someone else out of a table because you can't predict how you will feel at some point in the future. Take your best guess, that use it or cancel it if your plans change.

tinkerbellblondie19
08-03-2007, 10:16 PM
First, I'm gonna apologize for exploding in my earlier posts. I was upset about other things and it showed in my posts. I'm sorry.

Now, to be calm, it's more that it's slightly sad that we have to plan our meals 6 months in advance. Plan what time we want to eat, what we are going to eat, etc. No clue what time I'm gonna be hungry on December 17th! But I have to plan it anyway if I want to eat at all. The fact that it has come to this is frustrating.

Also, I like to plan the parks before the food, a lot of which is because I don't want to end up at Magic Kingdom for an 8 o'clock meal the night of EMH. The crowds are just not worth it, at least in my opinion.

pklein09
08-04-2007, 11:38 AM
I was just reading through the thread. I figure if you like to plan your meals, that's great. If you don't, that's great too. This is vacation... Do whatever you like to enhance your experience (within reason of course!)

For DW and I, we like to plan where we're going to eat. We also keep a countdown calendar for the kids months in advance, listen to Disney CDs on almost every car ride, read books, and do a whole host of other Disney-related things. It's helps us fill the void between trips to WDW!

For you folks who make multiple ADRs, do you also drive on the shoulder when traffic is heavy? Do you have your kids stand on different grocery store lines to see which one will move fastest? Do you mow your lawn at 7am because it's too hot in the afternoon? Yeah... I thought so. ;-)

I'm not saying everyone should be a goody-two-shoes. Just a moment's consideration of how your behavior affects other people goes a long way to making life a little more pleasant.

And yes... for the record, we canceled our ADR at V&As. Broke our hearts to do it, but it made me feel better to think that someone trying to get a last minute reservation there was going to hear "you're in luck... we just had a cancellation."

That's Disney magic!

jpeka65844
08-04-2007, 11:52 AM
DH and I plan out what parks we're doing on each day, THEN we plan our meals. But of course, we LOVE to eat and don't mind doing this 180 days out!

That being said, we decided to make an ADR for inside the Magic Kingdom on the night of our MVMCP, rather than at the Concourse. When I called and made our ADR for Tony's, I meant to cancel the ADR for Concourse. I forgot and hung up. But I then realized that nowhere did the CM alert me that I had 2 ADR's for the same time. Technically, they weren't: one was at 5:05, one was at 5:30. Do you think that made a difference?

I immediately called back and cancelled the Concourse so no harm, no foul.




Denice T.
Olathe, KS

tinkerbellblondie19
08-04-2007, 01:53 PM
DH and I plan out what parks we're doing on each day, THEN we plan our meals. But of course, we LOVE to eat and don't mind doing this 180 days out!

That being said, we decided to make an ADR for inside the Magic Kingdom on the night of our MVMCP, rather than at the Concourse. When I called and made our ADR for Tony's, I meant to cancel the ADR for Concourse. I forgot and hung up. But I then realized that nowhere did the CM alert me that I had 2 ADR's for the same time. Technically, they weren't: one was at 5:05, one was at 5:30. Do you think that made a difference?

I immediately called back and cancelled the Concourse so no harm, no foul.




Denice T.
Olathe, KS
Okay, so I guess disney isn't stopping you from making multiple ADR's period, just ADR's at the exact same time. Yeah, that may not be extremely helpful.

I just realized that there isn't really a way to put it in the system. I mean, are they only going to let you have 1 ADR per day? There isn't a way for their system to say you have 2 dinner ADRs if they are at different times, because there is a possibility of it being a lunch ADR. Did that make sense to anyone? Because I confused myself and my original logic while writing it.

Cool-Beans
08-06-2007, 03:53 AM
OK, I didn't read every post, but here goes.

I've made more than one ADR at a time. We did the Hidden Treasures of the World Showcase tour and I figured after 3 hours of walking it might be nice to sit down and have lunch. But Disney couldn't tell me if we'd be finishing up in Canada or Mexico - it differs by what direction they happen to start in that day. So, I booked 'em both. I did cancel San Angel during the tour (I think we were in Germany)...but I had them both.

And I'd do it no differently if I had it to do over again.

I've also gone with a group of people who stayed in different hotels - some offsite, even...and I handled calling all the reservations in. Since different people were going different places, I had several reservations under one name. I didn't want to have to make different calls or tell the CM to switch names because I thought it might all get screwed up and Shanila would show up and be told there was no ressie because the CM or I goofed up and put it under Eileen's name. One call, one name - so much easier. They all just showed up and said they were Cool Beans and everything ran well. :)

Also, although ADRs are never a bad idea and are sometimes a very GOOD idea, I do think it should be pointed out that even if you don't have ADRs...if you aren't too picky about where and when you eat, you should be able to sit down and have a meal somewhere. The vast majority of my trips are not planned 2 weeks out much less 180 days...and I have yet to starve in WDW. :)

And GEEZ O PETE, people!! Some folks like to plan (and some plan obsessively) and some don't. Different strokes for different folks. There is no wrong way to eat a Reese's!!

Boardwalker
08-06-2007, 07:14 AM
And GEEZ O PETE, people!! Some folks like to plan (and some plan obsessively) and some don't. Different strokes for different folks. There is no wrong way to eat a Reese's!!

Even if there is no wrong way to eat a Reeses, it isn't nice to pick up the last two from in front of the check out and carry them around the store with you, knowing you are going to only buy and eat one........

Disneybridein2k3
08-06-2007, 07:21 AM
More of what I meant was that it's slightly...I really can't come up with a good word to describe it, at least that couldn't be taken as insulting. I'm just saying that if you plan everything around where your ADR's are, and you plan your ADR's 6 months in advance, you end up at Magic Kingdom on the first day because you planned to eat at Crystal Palace, when you really were in the mood to go to Epcot to ride Test Track.
Food isn't all that important to me, but we are on the dining plan for our next trip and I don't want to pay for TS that I won't get to use just because I failed to plan ahead. And to be honest, I can't think of any day that I was in any Disney park and thought to myself, "Epcot sure is nice but I sure do wish I had gone to MGM today..." No matter which park I experience on any given day, I'm just happy to be there :goodvibes

BobNoxious
08-06-2007, 11:55 AM
Okay, so I guess disney isn't stopping you from making multiple ADR's period, just ADR's at the exact same time. Yeah, that may not be extremely helpful.

I just realized that there isn't really a way to put it in the system. I mean, are they only going to let you have 1 ADR per day? There isn't a way for their system to say you have 2 dinner ADRs if they are at different times, because there is a possibility of it being a lunch ADR. Did that make sense to anyone? Because I confused myself and my original logic while writing it.

If multiple ADRs are tied to the same number (reservation or phone), then if the DD person does not warn you about 2 ADRs for your entire party in the same 2-hour block, then the system will kick out your first reservation, per the first post in this thread.

stalkingmickey
08-07-2007, 04:30 PM
How about booking your trip and ADR's 6 months in advance...Booking breakfast(BOMA) the morning you fly out at the hotel (AKL) you booked.....Then finding out they are moving people from your hotel to others....My TA calling 2/12 months before arrival many times to inquire if I was being moved and told NO:confused: ....I then decided to book another breakfast for the same day and around the same time at one of the Boardwalk hotels just in case Disney ends up moving us.... Getting the call 45 days before arrival that you are being moved!!! WHAT:sad1:

I am going during free dining and breakfast is very important to a happy DH. :rotfl: and was worried about not being able to have breakfast at a close location before we head to the airport. CM never said anything about my other ressie and booked the new one. Did I lose my other ressie? We ended up taking the POLY:banana: . My Dh decided he still wantted to go to Boma for breakfast, so I already canceled the other ressie. I hope I still have Boma's. :scared1: Looks like I need to call and double check.

dwelty
08-08-2007, 05:42 AM
I think that planning around food is insane. It's food people! Yes, some is better than others. But it's kind of a trivial thing to plan around, don't you think?

If you only want to eat crappy counter service food, than your comment is valid.

landsm99
08-08-2007, 10:24 AM
I for one can't stand the stress the meal plan has added to ADRs. It is crazy. How do I know where we want to eat 6 months from now? What if we make decisions based on the great on-line menus and then the menu changes by the time we get there? Sure we have a plan-but we are very flexible-if the kids want to go to AK on a day that we thought we would be at MGM-so therefore made an ADR-we go to AK. Cancel the ADR and realize we will eat at counter service-unless we get lucky. Our 1st trip w/DD we went in September, made no advance ADR-and ate dinner every night based on where we wanted to go-often calling to make an ADR that afternoon. That was only 4 years ago-now if do not have ADRs at least scheduled months in advance we are all worried. That is fine for 'special' places (CRT, CG etc) but most other places it should not be so hard and require that type of planning. I really hate the changes that the meal plan has made-Here is hoping the rumored changes take place and people decide it is not worth the $.

Disneybridein2k3
08-08-2007, 03:27 PM
I really hate the changes that the meal plan has made-Here is hoping the rumored changes take place and people decide it is not worth the $.
If you have any doubts as to if people decide the new plan is/is not worth the money, check out this thread... http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1534326 :scared1: