Next DVC: will anyone else wait to buy?

[DVC Grammy]

With each of our DVC purchases (original, plus 2 different add-ons), we bought right at the beginning, as soon as they were offered for sale. Now that I'm reading about the double-developer points, if (and when) we do another add-on at a new DVC resort, I don't think that we'll be in the vanguard again. :sad2:
While we are delighted to have AKV, it seems it would have been a better deal if we had waited a while. Does anyone else feel that we "early-birds" might have gotten the "worms", but the "Johnny-come-latelys" got extra vacations? :confused3

[tomandrobin]

With each of our DVC purchases (original, plus 2 different add-ons), we bought right at the beginning, as soon as they were offered for sale. Now that I'm reading about the double-developer points, if (and when) we do another add-on at a new DVC resort, I don't think that we'll be in the vanguard again. :sad2:
While we are delighted to have AKV, it seems it would have been a better deal if we had waited a while. Does anyone else feel that us "early-birds" might have gotten the "worms", but the "Johnny-come-latelys" got extra vacations? :confused3

Will we got suckered in on the whole tapestry deal....what a farce that has become. Next time we will wait and see too. I would gladly traded my 16 spaces for another 175 points!

[bobbiwoz]

We went for the price and we're happy. We didn't get 150, so no tapestry. I wish there had been a print of AKV.
Bobbi:goodvibes

[Anthony1971]

DVC is offering DDP on both resorts could it be that sales were not as projected. It does not seem that they made one offer better than the other they just added to both.

[Maistre Gracey]

We bought AKV the minute it went on sale, and we're happy we did.
We couldn't use the developer points anyway, so we took the discount.

That said, the only rumored DVC that we have interest in would be the Grand Californian. We will not purchase at the Contemporary.
Of course we would also be interested in the non rumored Polynesian Villas... :smokin:

MG

[Anthony1971]

Of course we would also be interested in the non rumored Polynesian Villas... :smokin:

MG

There is no rumor because there has not been one started yet.
P.S. I WILL buy here as well and not CV.

[CarolA]

I have no regrets. I couldn't have used the Develop Points either so the intial deal was probaby the best I was going to do.

[dwelty]

We are waiting for the strongly rumored 50 DVC units at the Grand Californian at Disneyland Resort. We will not wait to purchase there, since waiting may mean that you get nothing, as they will sell quickly. (within a few months) They will not have to add incentives (unfortunately) since it will be the only game in town.

[jenntish]

I own at both BCV and SSR, yet when AKV opened, I received ONE mailing at home before they officially went 'on sale,' and that's it. Am I missing something? I haven't gotten ANY other offers. How do I get 'in the loop?'

[wildernessDad]

I do believe that we were somewhat shafted. I was told that AKV would open on September 1. I changed my vacation plans to coincide with the 'opening.' Well, lo and behold, the real opening is earlier than Sept. 1. I find this out after changing my December vacation to a September one.

One final point, I was able to get 5 nights the week before Xmas in a 1-br at VWL during the time when lots of us were canceling our existing vacations to remake one at AKV. So it is not a total loss, but it would have been nice to have been there for the opening.

[tomandrobin]

Hopefully when/if they do another resort, DVC gives us something different then another tote bag. We have four of them now. Maybe the could throw in some DVC member polos, hats or jacket!

[tomandrobin]

I own at both BCV and SSR, yet when AKV opened, I received ONE mailing at home before they officially went 'on sale,' and that's it. Am I missing something? I haven't gotten ANY other offers. How do I get 'in the loop?'

The mailings and solicitations were slow in getting out. Almost as if the selling started prematurely. If it wasn't for the DisBoards, we would not have known either. We got our mailing at home well after we made our purchase.

[ScottakaMickey]

As I watched the launching of AKV, I think a few things have changed that may also need to be considered.

I believe when AKV launched the "Retail" price per point was $101. Today it is now $104, so the late arrivers incurred a price increase. Then there was a member discount off of that $101, which I believe took it below the today discounted offer of $96, but I don't remember what the discount was. Like all of us when doing the analysis between the value of the discount versus the value of the developer points it comes down to money and ability to use. For me the developer point option has a lot more value then the discount so I would always look for that option for future adds.

I have Zero interest in CRV, but would have to think hard if GCV were to become real.

[Starr W.]

The mailings and solicitations were slow in getting out. Almost as if the selling started prematurely. If it wasn't for the DisBoards, we would not have known either. We got our mailing at home well after we made our purchase.

Are we talking about that nice AKV mailing with the DVD? Geez that came out a few months after the initial push to owners(with the tapestry marketing ploy).

[DVC Grammy]

As I watched the launching of AKV, I think a few things have changed that may also need to be considered.

I believe when AKV launched the "Retail" price per point was $101. Today it is now $104, so the late arrivers incurred a price increase. Then there was a member discount off of that $101, which I believe took it below the today discounted offer of $96, but I don't remember what the discount was. Like all of us when doing the analysis between the value of the discount versus the value of the developer points it comes down to money and ability to use. For me the developer point option has a lot more value then the discount so I would always look for that option for future adds.

I have Zero interest in CRV, but would have to think hard if GCV were to become real.

The discount for AKV was $8, just as it is now. We opted for the discount vs. matching developer points, since it seemed to be a good deal and you had only 7 months for their use. Now I've read where not only are they double, but you have 12 months in which to use them! IMNSHO, THAT'S a much better deal! :mad:

At this point, I don't anticipate buying CRV, BUT if the POLY DVC materializes................:rolleyes1

[doconeill]

There is no rumor because there has not been one started yet.
P.S. I WILL buy here as well and not CV.

I think I started the Poly rumor months ago :) Just wishful thinking though - by the time they did it, if they did it, I probably couldn't enjoy it. :sad2:

I'd buy somewhere around 50 points at CRV. I'd probably take a discount - unless I had a need for some near-term points.

After having stayed at the Beach Club, I'd gladly forego the CRV if BCV wasn't so expensive now. I thought being right on the monorail was important to me. Now I think being within walking distance of Epcot is better.

[pilferk]

I have no regrets. I couldn't have used the Develop Points either so the intial deal was probaby the best I was going to do.

Ditto.

I couldn't have used them within expiration (7 OR 12 months, whichever it turns out to be).

And I've got no desire to deal with the hassles of renting them out.

[LisaS]

I wish there had been a print of AKV.Me too! I was very disappointed when my paperwork arrived and there was no AKV lithograph in the box. I didn't really need another generic DVC tote bag but would have loved a print of AKV to hang on the wall.

[jakenjess]

Are we talking about that nice AKV mailing with the DVD? Geez that came out a few months after the initial push to owners(with the tapestry marketing ploy).

We never did receive our AKV mailing with the DVD!:sad2: We're definitely interested in a CRV, but we would think about holding off a little while when they go on sale. There's no guarantee they'd offer the double developer points again, though. I just want a CRV announcement, please!

[WDW LifeLong Fan]

We are contemplating an add on at AKV and we are glad we waited with the potential DDPs.

However, if and when the PV comes to fruition, I would buy there "yesterday".

[bobbiwoz]

Me too! I was very disappointed when my paperwork arrived and there was no AKV lithograph in the box. I didn't really need another generic DVC tote bag but would have loved a print of AKV to hang on the wall.

Do you think it's too late? I've been thinking (hoping) it could happen in the future.

As far as the canvas tote. I've given some away filled with presents and some families have gotten 2 because they were very appreciative. We had extras because we each got one on the Members Cruise...but yes, a print would have been welcomed much more than the tote in THIS house.

Bobbi:goodvibes

[LIFERBABE]

:thumbsup2 Yep! Seriously shafted by purchasing early.

We purchased because we needed more points for our reunion. I took the developer points INSTEAD of the $8 off. Now people are getting both!:confused3

Also my reunion was in June and we stayed into July. Again not fair because the people that purchased early cant stay until September 1 while those that get the bigger incentive also have the option to stay prior to September. If it wasnt for a paperwork delay, I would have been in the same boat.

In the past, the earlier you purchased the better deal you received. I will wait next time.

[Steamboat Girlie]

:thumbsup2 Yep! Seriously shafted by purchasing early.

We purchased because we needed more points for our reunion. I took the developer points INSTEAD of the $8 off. Now people are getting both!:confused3

Also my reunion was in June and we stayed into July. Again not fair because the people that purchased early cant stay until September 1 while those that get the bigger incentive also have the option to stay prior to September. If it wasnt for a paperwork delay, I would have been in the same boat.

In the past, the earlier you purchased the better deal you received. I will wait next time.

It is my understanding that you can pick either the developers points OR the $8 off per point.

[spiceycat]

if the next one is the CR - I won't wait. If in fact it is only 300 to 400 units - probably 350 - then it will sell out fast.

BCV sold in less than 18 months.

would expect CR to do the same.

not if it 800 units then yea we have time and the prices might go down. Maybe?

I think this is due to DVC not selling enough to current DVC members at AKV. Although I think someone say they meet their goal?

[squidmo]

We are waiting for the strongly rumored 50 DVC units at the Grand Californian at Disneyland Resort. We will not wait to purchase there, since waiting may mean that you get nothing, as they will sell quickly. (within a few months) They will not have to add incentives (unfortunately) since it will be the only game in town.

I agree- when a Disneyland DVC comes on board, I'll calling on the first day, right when the phone lines open.

[mello]

Of course we would also be interested in the non rumored Polynesian Villas... :smokin:

MG

LOL

I told dh the other day that I'd sell the others for Polynesian Villas. Probably though, by the time it happens (if it ever does) our kids will have to wheel us down from the old folks' home to see it.

[Mtnman44]

I'm saving up for the Grand Californian. If they ever announce that we will be buying on day one (I hope). We rotate between Anaheim and Orlando so I only need enough points for an Every Other Year stay. That combined with fewer number of nights needed at DLR, I think GCV should be fairly affordable. As long as they don't go crazy on the point requirements, I think 50 ro 60 points will suit us nicely.

[JBCP]

I'd be eager for something more convenient for us Left-Coasters, either GCV or something off-site (something like Vero but on the Pacific would be dreamy.) Whether or not I'd buy right away would probably depend on a number of things, the most important being the size of the resort.

If they do do a GCV, would it definitely be only about 50 units?

Julie in WA

[pcparamedics01]

With each of our DVC purchases (original, plus 2 different add-ons), we bought right at the beginning, as soon as they were offered for sale. Now that I'm reading about the double-developer points, if (and when) we do another add-on at a new DVC resort, I don't think that we'll be in the vanguard again. :sad2:
While we are delighted to have AKV, it seems it would have been a better deal if we had waited a while. Does anyone else feel that we "early-birds" might have gotten the "worms", but the "Johnny-come-latelys" got extra vacations? :confused3e only

You do get double points but they are in leu of 10.00 off per point. They do not give both and they are only good from the time you purchase 7 months out. I am adding on but will get my 10.00 off. It makes more sense in the long term. If you choose the double bonus you will pay full price for your points.

[DVC Grammy]

e only

You do get double points but they are in leu of 10.00 off per point. They do not give both and they are only good from the time you purchase 7 months out. I am adding on but will get my 10.00 off. It makes more sense in the long term. If you choose the double bonus you will pay full price for your points.

With AKV, it was only $8 off, and now the double developer points can be used over 12 months, not 7. :thumbsup2
As I said, I am thrilled to own AKV (especially with an upcoming CL week in January :yay: :yay: ). I guess it bothers me that the options for purchase have changed in a few months; I could understand it better if Kidani had been finished and TPTB wanted to wrap it up in order to begin selling the next DVC. But AKV's villas haven't even been completed in Jambo and according to reports on these boards, it's selling very well, so why the "switcheroo"?:confused3

[pcparamedics01]

With AKV, it was only $8 off, and now the double developer points can be used over 12 months, not 7. :thumbsup2
As I said, I am thrilled to own AKV (especially with an upcoming CL week in January :yay: :yay: ). I guess it bothers me that the options for purchase have changed in a few months; I could understand it better if Kidani had been finished and TPTB wanted to wrap it up in order to begin selling the next DVC. But AKV's villas haven't even been completed in Jambo and according to reports on these boards, it's selling very well, so why the "switcheroo"?:confused3

At SSR my guide said the other. That is better for you then if you are buying at OKW

[pcparamedics01]

At SSR my guide said the other. That is better for you then if you are buying at OKW

I meant AKL sorry

[DVC Grammy]

At SSR my guide said the other. That is better for you then if you are buying at (AKV)

What is better? The double DPs, or the discount? :confused3

[pcparamedics01]

What is better? The double DPs, or the discount? :confused3



I think it depends on the person. In the long hall, I think that it is better to take the dollars off per point then to take the double points and use them for one year and that's it. We are financing the additional points and it did not make sence for us in the bottom line. I thought the double points would go fast but infact they started offering these double points I believe in June and it is still going on. i think a lot of people are taking the dollars off versus the double points.

[sjdisneywedding]

I think it depends on the person. In the long hall, I think that it is better to take the dollars off per point then to take the double points and use them for one year and that's it. We are financing the additional points and it did not make sence for us in the bottom line. I thought the double points would go fast but infact they started offering these double points I believe in June and it is still going on. i think a lot of people are taking the dollars off versus the double points.


I have thought the complete opposite. for 100 points you are looking at $10,400 or $9600. TO me....whats the difference?

With the 200 developer points you are getting at LEAST $2000 dollars worth of points.

Its pretty close if it was 1-1 points and developer. That would be a toss up depending on your travel ability. But 1 for 2 thats not even close to even

[pcparamedics01]

I have thought the complete opposite. for 100 points you are looking at $10,400 or $9600. TO me....whats the difference?

With the 200 developer points you are getting at LEAST $2000 dollars worth of points.

Its pretty close if it was 1-1 points and developer. That would be a toss up depending on your travel ability. But 1 for 2 thats not even close to even

Well because you get double points for one year like you had said. In my case I had to use them in 7 months. Versus getting $8.00 per point off for 56 years I think that is what it is. You do not get double points every use year. One time only. I would rather save the 8.00 per point for 56 years(again if that is right) I beleive 56 years. then get it for one time and pay more money for each point every year.

[CarolA]

I have thought the complete opposite. for 100 points you are looking at $10,400 or $9600. TO me....whats the difference?

With the 200 developer points you are getting at LEAST $2000 dollars worth of points.

Its pretty close if it was 1-1 points and developer. That would be a toss up depending on your travel ability. But 1 for 2 thats not even close to even

However, there is a COST to that $2,000 worth of points. You have to go USE them which means airfare or gas, food, etc..... It's not like Disney paid the cost of your vacation.

It's a win win for them. They get you to spend MORE money on the points you are buying and MORE money on the points you use. (If you can actually use them. I wonder how many will go "to waste" on this program)

[pcparamedics01]

However, there is a COST to that $2,000 worth of points. You have to go USE them which means airfare or gas, food, etc..... It's not like Disney paid the cost of your vacation.

It's a win win for them. They get you to spend MORE money on the points you are buying and MORE money on the points you use. (If you can actually use them. I wonder how many will go "to waste" on this program)

True true!!!

[sjdisneywedding]

However, there is a COST to that $2,000 worth of points. You have to go USE them which means airfare or gas, food, etc..... It's not like Disney paid the cost of your vacation.

It's a win win for them. They get you to spend MORE money on the points you are buying and MORE money on the points you use. (If you can actually use them. I wonder how many will go "to waste" on this program)

yep totally agree. I wouldnt doubt if many people just use the majority of the 200 and if they lose a few points here and there. I bet a bunch just chalk up a few lost points to "oh well they are freebies anyway"

[pcparamedics01]

The discount for AKV was $8, just as it is now. We opted for the discount vs. matching developer points, since it seemed to be a good deal and you had only 7 months for their use. Now I've read where not only are they double, but you have 12 months in which to use them! IMNSHO, THAT'S a much better deal! :mad:

At this point, I don't anticipate buying CRV, BUT if the POLY DVC materializes................:rolleyes1

You do have 7 months to us them at ssr or okv. The op said it was 12 months at okw

[pcparamedics01]

With each of our DVC purchases (original, plus 2 different add-ons), we bought right at the beginning, as soon as they were offered for sale. Now that I'm reading about the double-developer points, if (and when) we do another add-on at a new DVC resort, I don't think that we'll be in the vanguard again. :sad2:
While we are delighted to have AKV, it seems it would have been a better deal if we had waited a while. Does anyone else feel that we "early-birds" might have gotten the "worms", but the "Johnny-come-latelys" got extra vacations? :confused3

I am going to call my guide and make sure about all of this!! thanks!

[tjkraz]

Personally, I just hope that DVC does a much better job of marketing its next resort. AKV was the first sales kick-off under Jim Lewis, and I think it was very disorganized...at least I hope it was merely disorganized and not done intentionally for some misguided reasons.

AKV was announced in October '06. They had nearly 4 months before sales began in February to get all of their ducks in a row. And let's not forget that DVC decided when to begin sales--they could have waited a few more weeks or months if necessary.

Anyway, by February all we had was a bare-bones marketing brochure touting the Founding Members' tapestry (a deal which expired at the end of February.)

It wasn't until March that we had room floorplans, model units at SSR (which were still a WIP) and concept artwork. I know a lot of people love AKV and I'm not trying to attack their sensibilities or purchase decisions, but I think the manner in which DVC began sales was just unconscionably arrogant. Why didn't they just wait until March to begin sales when all of the info was readily available, and THEN give current members until 3/31 for the tapestry???

Now we find out that the Founding Members get a whole 16 characters for their personal message on the tapestry. Now I'm doubly glad I didn't bite since my last name alone is 11 characters!!! :lmao:

When SSR sales began they already had finalized model rooms open, full-color brochures with photos of the models (which look EXACTLY like the finished product), room floorplans and unit sizes, a resort development map and so on.

I may not hold-out 6 months waiting to see if a better offer materializes, but no matter the location I will not buy until DVC has put a reasonable amount of information into my hands.

[Longhairbear]

We will only buy more points for a DVC at DLR, As there are rumored to be 2 DVCs, one at GC, with 50 units, and another in a separate location on property, with more units, we will buy as soon as available.
We have no interest in CRV, or AKV as we don't need to have an 11 month window to stay at either. We do need that 11 month window at any DLR DVC, especially until they expand to the second location at DLR.

[wendydarling826]

We bought BCV when they were almost done selling it and received extra points as an incentive. We bought SSR when it was about half sold and received 2 AP's as incentive. We would like to add on at AKV but can't do it yet. The idea of our name on the tapestry was appealing, but extra points or passes would be even better. As far as I can tell, CRV exists only in the imaginations of DVC owners who want a monorail resort, but if it did become a reality it wouldn't really appeal to me. I don't really care for the theming at the CR. I'm interested in the "Double Developer" points that previous posters have mentioned - we never received anything about this. What is it?

[edk35]

With each of our DVC purchases (original, plus 2 different add-ons), we bought right at the beginning, as soon as they were offered for sale. Now that I'm reading about the double-developer points, if (and when) we do another add-on at a new DVC resort, I don't think that we'll be in the vanguard again. :sad2:
While we are delighted to have AKV, it seems it would have been a better deal if we had waited a while. Does anyone else feel that we "early-birds" might have gotten the "worms", but the "Johnny-come-latelys" got extra vacations? :confused3


I am a Johnny Come Lately. We bought at SSR in Jan. We bought 300 points, got 300 developer points and our UY is Oct. So we walked out with 600 and could bank all 600 by Sept. 30th of this year. YES WE COULD BANK OUR DEVELOPER POINTS. That shocked most on this board when I told them this back in Feb. Then in Oct. we get our allotted 300. SO yes I consider us the Johnny Come Latelys. LOL

[edk35]

Hopefully when/if they do another resort, DVC gives us something different then another tote bag. We have four of them now. Maybe the could throw in some DVC member polos, hats or jacket!


LOL Our guide gave us 3 of the totes in Jan. YES 3. I just gave one to a friend of mine who also owns DVC.

[dvc at last !]

We will wait for CRV
-wanna be on the monorail ! :cool1:

[dunkie7557]

I was just there last weekend (july 21). they would never give away more stuff for free unless they were not doing well! C'mon-disney is in the business of making money. They extended the incentive of 12 months for the developer points as a way to get more sales! This is how it works. And for those who all said no pressure from the guide-thats not what happened to us. This means they are having a hard time selling. They wouldn't have to pressure you so much
if it was so easy for them. Our guide did tell us though that truly the best deal is SS with a FEb UY plus double developer points. He also said that disney is in the works for many more places to build these DVC places but that he can't tell us where except he did mention possibly HAWAII! He said it is all in the development phases now under wraps. but when ready, they will announce it. it takes like 5-7 years of planning an area he said.

And my guide did admit that for AK there probably would be more upkeep fees and hence a bit higher dues overall.

[sjdisneywedding]

I was just there last weekend (july 21). they would never give away more stuff for free unless they were not doing well! C'mon-disney is in the business of making money. They extended the incentive of 12 months for the developer points as a way to get more sales! This is how it works. And for those who all said no pressure from the guide-thats not what happened to us. This means they are having a hard time selling. They wouldn't have to pressure you so much
if it was so easy for them. Our guide did tell us though that truly the best deal is SS with a FEb UY plus double developer points. He also said that disney is in the works for many more places to build these DVC places but that he can't tell us where except he did mention possibly HAWAII! He said it is all in the development phases now under wraps. but when ready, they will announce it. it takes like 5-7 years of planning an area he said.

And my guide did admit that for AK there probably would be more upkeep fees and hence a bit higher dues overall.

I am not sure its not doing well rather DVC is simply growing and the sales people must reach out to new folks and maybe push a little harder. Initially DVC was new and small and there was no problem getting everything sold.

[spiceycat]

I am not sure its not doing well rather DVC is simply growing and the sales people must reach out to new folks and maybe push a little harder. Initially DVC was new and small and there was no problem getting everything sold.

you kidding.

the first few years it was hard to sale. people didn't believe it would be around.

I did. but lots of other guests I talked too - were convinced that the DVC would go away. and OKW would become just another WDW resort.

they offered WDW tickets.... I haven't seem anything nearly as great since.

the competition offers money - Disney offers disney stuff.

[sjdisneywedding]

you kidding.

the first few years it was hard to sale. people didn't believe it would be around.

I did. but lots of other guests I talked too - were convinced that the DVC would go away. and OKW would become just another WDW resort.

they offered WDW tickets.... I haven't seem anything nearly as great since.

the competition offers money - Disney offers disney stuff.


I wasnt talking the first resort or two. I wasnt around then so I have no idea. Of course as such a new thing, theres doubt and speculation. In recent years the number of people interested in DVC and the few number of resorts on site made for what I consider fairly easy sells. There was always more people looking ot egt in than there were rooms. Hence the high resale price, the waitlist at some of the resorts

At some point that swings the other way and the more reosrts the add the more it swings. I am not saying they wont sell, I just think people need a little push as in alot of sales

[bobbiwoz]

I have answered in the negative, we were happy with what we did, when we did it...but I've read here about people using the developers points for a cruise, now that would give me pause, and maybe make me change my mind. Of course, we're finished adding on direct from Disney, (maybe):lmao:

Bobbi:goodvibes

[tjkraz]

They extended the incentive of 12 months for the developer points as a way to get more sales! This is how it works.

I think you're reading too much into that one. From October thru early January there is virtually no availability to be had at the DVC resorts. I suspect they first began to catch some flak from new members who found they were unable to use their points. I would view that as the likely basis for the change.

DVC should be able to use its Developer's Points within the same framework as other points. The same usage, banking and borrowing terms would apply. The 7-month restriction was apparently put into place simply to ease bookkeeping on DVC. In the end it will cost DVC very little to extend the offer.

And for those who all said no pressure from the guide-thats not what happened to us. This means they are having a hard time selling. They wouldn't have to pressure you so much
if it was so easy for them.

I'm not sure that an experience with one Guide is indicative of changing philosophies. After all, they are only human.

[erikthewise]

The Polynesian "rumor" has been around for years, more as a dream than a rumor. The problem now is that we have a backlog of "actual" rumors, so there is little attention paid to wanna-be rumors like Polynesian Villas. My hope now is simply that it be built while I am still living. Since I am a DVC member, I am guaranteed to live until 2042, right?

This bit about the 16 characters reminds me of "Sirens of Titan" (Kurt Vonnegut). In this sci-fi spoof an incredibly important message is to be delivered clear across the galaxy. When everything goes wrong and it can't be delivered as intended, it is opened and found to be a single dot, which means "greetings". I think that's what I would use -- a dot and 15 blanks.

[pilferk]

Personally, I just hope that DVC does a much better job of marketing its next resort. AKV was the first sales kick-off under Jim Lewis, and I think it was very disorganized...at least I hope it was merely disorganized and not done intentionally for some misguided reasons.

AKV was announced in October '06. They had nearly 4 months before sales began in February to get all of their ducks in a row. And let's not forget that DVC decided when to begin sales--they could have waited a few more weeks or months if necessary.

Anyway, by February all we had was a bare-bones marketing brochure touting the Founding Members' tapestry (a deal which expired at the end of February.)



I agree. The information existing members had on which to choose to buy in was paltry, at best. It was made up of mostly rumor (which, in the end, did turn out ot have some substance) and what (seemingly little) info the guides had. I don't think that was exactly "fair" of Disney....


It wasn't until March that we had room floorplans, model units at SSR (which were still a WIP) and concept artwork. I know a lot of people love AKV and I'm not trying to attack their sensibilities or purchase decisions, but I think the manner in which DVC began sales was just unconscionably arrogant. Why didn't they just wait until March to begin sales when all of the info was readily available, and THEN give current members until 3/31 for the tapestry???


Exactly true. The information all EXPLODED onto the scene pretty much in the days leading up to, and really the day of, AKV going on sale to the general public. There was some stuff that "leaked" a bit early, because it had been put up on Disney's DVC site a little early (and was taken down)...but really, not much.


When SSR sales began they already had finalized model rooms open, full-color brochures with photos of the models (which look EXACTLY like the finished product), room floorplans and unit sizes, a resort development map and so on.


Question for the group: Did DVC do a presale for members only on SSR? Or did they just get a "better deal" when points went on sale to everyone? I'm just wondering....

[rugrats2001]

Well because you get double points for one year like you had said. In my case I had to use them in 7 months. Versus getting $8.00 per point off for 56 years I think that is what it is. You do not get double points every use year. One time only. I would rather save the 8.00 per point for 56 years(again if that is right) I beleive 56 years. then get it for one time and pay more money for each point every year.

I'm not sure what you mean by any of this:confused3 . Lets give an example of what really happens:

You buy 200 points at AKV, you can either take an $8 per point discount from your purchase price ($8 times 200 = $1,600 total one time discount) or you can take double developer's points (2 times 200 points = 400 points to use for vacations during the next 7 or 12 months), either of which is in addition to the regular benefits and maintenance costs of a 200 point membership for the duration of your ownership (50 years) Neither of these options carries over as a yearly discount or perk.

[Blue&Gold]

However, there is a COST to that $2,000 worth of points. You have to go USE them which means airfare or gas, food, etc..... It's not like Disney paid the cost of your vacation.

It's a win win for them. They get you to spend MORE money on the points you are buying and MORE money on the points you use. (If you can actually use them. I wonder how many will go "to waste" on this program)

Not following... By this logic, no one should buy ANY DVC ownership... How can it possibly be bad to get more product?

Hypothetical 100 point AKV purchase w/discount =$9600. W/ Dev Pts =$10400 plus 200 Dev Pts. Therefore what you are doing is "buying" 200 points with 12 month expiration and no home resort advantage for $800, or essentially paying maintenance fees of $4 per point with no capital buy in.

The "value" depends on what you can use. If you can't travel within the next 12 months, take the discount. If you can, it certainly would be more cost-effective to take the DevPts at what amounts to $4 per point rather than renting them from someone with excess inventory at $10-$12 per point. In all reality, this is what you are doing, just renting those points from DVD.

[mjy]

I think that's what I would use -- a dot and 15 blanks.

Either that or 16 dots and pretend it says "Greetings" in 16 different languages! :lmao:

To get back on topic, though . . . I agree with an earlier observations that they probably extended everything because there were no rooms available in the alloted time for people to use their points. It is not very good to give points out that cannot be used. People feel robbed that way.