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krisngreg
07-02-2007, 08:56 AM
Just heard on the Saint Louis Radio Station a bomb went off in the parking lot of Orlando Fl Disney. Has anyone heard anything more???

Kristin

spectrum-turbo
07-02-2007, 09:06 AM
Take a look at this thread:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1502991

flowers
07-02-2007, 09:43 AM
yes, thanks. I see someone posted that it was actually a trash can fire and no one was injured. If it had been any kind of a bomb and gone off, it would have been all over the national news.

mmouse37
07-02-2007, 09:48 AM
yes, thanks. I see someone posted that it was actually a trash can fire and no one was injured. If it had been any kind of a bomb and gone off, it would have been all over the national news.

It was listed as a pipe bomb on this mornings news...they did not go into detail but said it was a pipe bomb and that it went off.

Empress Room
07-02-2007, 10:46 AM
It was listed as a pipe bomb on this mornings news...they did not go into detail but said it was a pipe bomb and that it went off.

It looks like those news reports are now backing off and now categorizing the event as a "suspicious incident" with no explosions or injuries, simply smoke from a dumpster. Here's a link to the Orlando Sentinel article:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/lakebuenavista/orl-bk-package070207,0,6179054.story?coll=orl_tab01_layou t

tiggr33
07-02-2007, 01:23 PM
It looks like those news reports are now backing off and now categorizing the event as a "suspicious incident" with no explosions or injuries, simply smoke from a dumpster. Here's a link to the Orlando Sentinel article:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/community/news/lakebuenavista/orl-bk-package070207,0,6179054.story?coll=orl_tab01_layou t


I used the link posted above and the story headline is Device similar to pipe bomb explodes at DisneyWalter Pacheco and April Hunt | Orlando Sentinel Staff Writers
12:37 PM EDT, July 2, 2007 . So as of 12:37, all they did was back off the size of the explosion.

misseulalie
07-02-2007, 02:13 PM
WDW has been having severe problems with teenage kids hanging around and "gang-like" activity around D-Town Disney. Some kids have been banned for life and there is lot of security presence. My guess is that some kid who was thrown out for mis-behavior decided to get revenge.

Empress Room
07-03-2007, 10:14 AM
I used the link posted above and the story headline is Device similar to pipe bomb explodes at DisneyWalter Pacheco and April Hunt | Orlando Sentinel Staff Writers
12:37 PM EDT, July 2, 2007 . So as of 12:37, all they did was back off the size of the explosion.


And apparently they are backing off even more with respect to the incident. The latest Orlando Sentinel article really downplays its significance, and places it more squarely in the "prank" category. Here is the link to the article posted at 10:24 a.m. EDT, July 3, 2007:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orl-disneybomb0307jul03,0,4034422.story

beachblanket
07-03-2007, 11:22 AM
WDW has been having severe problems with teenage kids hanging around and "gang-like" activity around D-Town Disney..

Not only is this accurate, it's not anything new. Ever since Disney removed the entry fee to PI, that whole area of DTD has become a magnet for every piece of downscale Gen Y crap in Central Florida.

Disney itself hasn't helped things, by continually allowing certain clubs there to promote events like gangsta rap "concerts" by acts such as Three 6 Mafia (who perform family friendly material like ""It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp.")

Things have gotten so bad that Disney now regularly bolsters its own security in DTD with armed off-duty local deputies and other private-security officers. It's so nice to see all those guns at the primary nightlife attraction of the happiest place on earth.:rolleyes1

tiggr33
07-03-2007, 11:26 AM
And apparently they are backing off even more with respect to the incident. The latest Orlando Sentinel article really downplays its significance, and places it more squarely in the "prank" category. Here is the link to the article posted at 10:24 a.m. EDT, July 3, 2007:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orl-disneybomb0307jul03,0,4034422.story

With all due respect, did we read the same article? Nowhere in the article did it mention prank. I don't think anyone can say it is a prank. A BOMB IS A BOMB! For the head of Homeland Security to be involved atall, should be a clue to alot of people - Disney is not as much of a fantasyland as many believe. Disney properties are watched very closely, by both sides of the terror war. I hope they find the person/persons who made and detonated the bomb, and prosecute to the full extent of the law. Hopefully they can nail the person(s) on a federal level. I don't feel as this issue should be downplayed at all. This incident should serve as a walk up call. Does anyone in the NYC or Oklahoma City area feel as a bomb should be taken lightly? As I said above a bomb is a bomb. Maybe I am sensitive to this issue due to my proximity to the WTC along with mine and my loved ones involvement in the aftermath.

And since this is the cruise board, lets add that in too...Did anyone notice the extra security with the TA and inaguaral Med cruises? The Magic had escorts and shadows most days.

A bomb is not a prank. Stepping off my soapbox.

MarkRG
07-03-2007, 01:27 PM
Actually, now that it's turned out to be not such a large event, I'm sending this subject off to where it belongs.

KathyRN137
07-03-2007, 01:50 PM
Pipe-bomb-like device goes off at Fla. Disney parking lot

By Walter Pacheco and April Hunt
Orlando Sentinel Staff

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — Orange County deputies found a "low-level crude device" resembling a pipe bomb in a trash can at a Downtown Disney parking lot early today.


"Our investigators found end caps, which usually indicate a pipe-bomb-like device," said Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary at a news conference this morning. "We believe this was not designed to cause significant property damage or injuries."

In an earlier version of this story, Sheriff Beary incorrectly reported that the homemade device blew the doors off a dumpster in the popular tourist spot at Walt Disney World. No doors were blown off and the receptacle was a trash can, said Orange County spokesman Capt. Mark Strobridge.

Beary said security has been increased county-wide not just because of the suspicious incident, but also because of the recent terrorist activity overseas.

"Once we saw things unfolding in the U.K. and Glasgow, and the fact that it''s July 4th, we increased security," said Beary.

He added that "this is not connected to any sophisticated [terrorist] plot, either domestically or internationally."

A Disney security officer on bike patrol called deputies at about 12:30 a.m. he heard a noise and saw white smoke coming from a garbage can in a back lot at of Downtown Disney, said Disney spokeswoman Kim Prunty.

The garbage can is in the far lot behind the Cirque du Soleil theater, going toward the golf course at the Saratoga Springs Resort, Prunty said. There are no attractions or shops in that area.

When deputies arrived, they secured the area and later reported no damage or injuries.

"The only damage was to the garbage can," Prunty said.

Downtown Disney is a popular spot frequented by tourists and locals for its shopping and entertainment, but last week, some of its security policies came under fire.

Walt Disney World ejected four of Florida State University''s top football prospects — including the son of a Disney manager and the son of a Philadelphia civil-rights lawyer — from Downtown Disney under its anti-gang, no-loitering policy and banned them from entering the theme parks for life.

After Disney officials were questioned about security and the use of racial profiling to target and drive out minority youth, they decided to revise the trespass warnings so that the four are banned only from Downtown Disney for one year.

ChrisFL
07-03-2007, 02:01 PM
Disney itself hasn't helped things, by continually allowing certain clubs there to promote events like gangsta rap "concerts" by acts such as Three 6 Mafia (who perform family friendly material like ""It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp.")

That same group also won an Oscar for best original song in a movie.

Are you saying that they aren't real concerts?

mickey2000
07-03-2007, 02:15 PM
My friend use to be a security guard at WDW. His stories would make your head spin ! All I can say is that Disney is the master at making things disappear or never happen. It is what they do to make it the happest place on earth! Bravo Disney ........:thumbsup2

sjaakie
07-04-2007, 02:12 AM
There just one answer for this problem.

A 10 dollar parking fee for the car and again paying for entrance at PI.
Keeps a lot of the crap outside.

Btw parents that bring young children to PI to "chill out" at times children of that age should be in bed have to get a fee and real high one. Just put up enough camera’s to gard the safety of the real fans.

EUROPACL
07-04-2007, 09:23 AM
That same group also won an Oscar for best original song in a movie.

Are you saying that they aren't real concerts?

"Oscar" aside...I think it was more a comment on their content of music vs. Disney's family image..

I mean really with content like "Slob on my Knob, 2-Way Freak, Chickenhead,Face Down,Gangster Walk".....well you get the point.

TSR6
07-04-2007, 01:05 PM
Things have gotten so bad that Disney now regularly bolsters its own security in DTD with armed off-duty local deputies and other private-security officers. It's so nice to see all those guns at the primary nightlife attraction of the happiest place on earth.:rolleyes1

Disney Security does not carry firearms. The deputies are actually ON DUTY, and are working overtime (overtime paid by Disney). The only people you should see carrying a gun there would be wearing a badge.

wdwtrizz
07-05-2007, 09:12 AM
Well I have lived in Orlando for years and I can tell you that even if a ten megaton bomb went off in the castle within 24 hours Disney would have the local news broadcasting that it was a firecracker AND it happened at Universal... Disney owns Orlando/Kissimmee.

orlandofloridasucks.com

beachblanket
07-05-2007, 10:10 AM
That same group also won an Oscar for best original song in a movie.

Are you saying that they aren't real concerts?

Oh, please, garbage is garbage, no matter how much one tries to to dress it up. You are implying that just because the Film Academy of Arts and Sciences gives an award to something means it has quality and was the best of the best of its era. Really? Here are some other Oscar winners that like "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp" are textbook examples of weak fad du jours winning over substance:

1941: Citizen Kane is shut out of virtually every award (quick - what movie was the Best Film winner that year? Yes, it was that unforgettable work of art everyone has in their video library, Blossoms in the Dust) :rotfl:

1952: The Greatest Show on Earth -- a lightweight spectacle movie -- wins best film over the classics High Noon and The Quiet Man .:rolleyes1

1968: Oliver -- a now hugely dated musical which I'm willing to bet 90% of those reading this thread have never even seen -- wins best film over the classic The Lion In Winter.:rolleyes:

1976: Rocky wins best film (over the likes of Network, Taxi Driver and All the President's Men).:scared1:

1998: the Best Picture Oscar goes to Shakespeare In Love instead of the clear masterpiece Saving Private Ryan.:scared:

Disney Security does not carry firearms.

Read my post again please. I never said they did, only the off-duty local deputies they are retaining.

Luv2Roam
07-05-2007, 05:37 PM
I am hopeful from all this PI will once again require ID checks and entry fees.

beachblanket
07-05-2007, 09:46 PM
I am hopeful from all this PI will once again require ID checks and entry fees.

Hear, hear - that would remove the local downscale pond scum and return PI to what it was supposed to be - a fantasy land of decent adult nature evening entertainment.:)

mickey2000
07-05-2007, 10:10 PM
The bottom line here is that Disney will do whatever generates the most $ for them ........

beachblanket
07-05-2007, 10:16 PM
The bottom line here is that Disney will do whatever generates the most $ for them ........

And if they understand anything about the value of brand equity, that will include not letting their reputation continue to get damaged by stupid prior decisions - such as letting PI become a magnet for underage drinkers and gang types.

mickey2000
07-09-2007, 04:57 PM
See it has been erased from all our memories :scared1:
It never happened, it was only a dream :happytv:
Just as planned :coffee:

What a Magical World !

DancingBear
07-10-2007, 09:55 AM
Not to minimize the seriousness of any bomb, but the abduction of the couple in Downtown Disney in June was much more troubling than this event.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2007/06/10/2_connecticut_tourists_ok_after_robbery_at_disney_ world/

KINGBOBOFTHENORTH
07-10-2007, 05:59 PM
Not to minimize the seriousness of any bomb, but the abduction of the couple in Downtown Disney in June was much more troubling than this event.

The alleged victims would not take a lie detector test, they would not help a police artist draw the alleged abductors and they said they would not prosecute if there were arrests. Prior to that police in NY told a local Orlando television station that one of the victims was a known druggie up there. That was rescinded the next day, mysteriously. Prior to that there was skepticism by myself and others that someone planning a robbery and kidnapping would ever select the Downtown Disney parking lot as a place to attempt such a thing.

Bottom line, there are serious questions that there really ever was a kidnapping or if there was, there were other things going on too.

BobK/Orlando

Roxane
07-11-2007, 05:08 AM
I don't balme them at all. I wouldn't have wanted to spend my WDW vacation dealing with the cops. I mean come on, they lied about the victim being a druggie, and WDW trying to make like it didn't happen. If it were me, I would stop cooperating as well.

KINGBOBOFTHENORTH
07-11-2007, 07:31 PM
I don't balme them at all. I wouldn't have wanted to spend my WDW vacation dealing with the cops. I mean come on, they lied about the victim being a druggie, and WDW trying to make like it didn't happen. If it were me, I would stop cooperating as well.

Oh, so Channel 6 was in on making up the druggie story, huh? And you're saying that if you had been kidnapped, beaten up and/or shot at you wouldn't help the police try to catch the people? OMG. And I don't recall WDW ever denying that this didn't happen. The large increase in security and sheriff's deputies at DD speaks otherwise. There are others (such as me) expressing skepticism.

BobK/Orlando