Golf cart accident

[proudmomof4]

Just got home this morning but last night we were in our cart on our way to the Meadows Trading Post to get some ice, we came over the bridge from the pool area and when we came around the corner there was Disney security (a lot of them) and an ambulance. They had closed off the entrance to Meadows from the road and were directing people to go around somewhere else and I think they closed off the path from the bridge right after we came over it.
We didn't see the accident but I asked a bystander what had happened and she said a golf cart came down from the bridge and around the corner and hit a little girl on a bike, she said the girl was pretty banged up and her bike was a mangled mess.

I don't know how badly she was injured and I hope she is okay, but I can't help but think Disney may need to make some changes with the golf carts and the paths they can take now (the bridge was reopened to cart traffic later).

I really hope this little girl is okay, what a horrible thing to happen.

[bigdisneydaddy]

Thats a difficult blind corner, if you arent VERY careful its easy to come up on people quickly. I heard several people, that were walking, commenting about how tight it is through there with the cart traffic.
Disney has the very best EMS service around with the Reedy creek emergency services so I ams ure they took good care of her.

Hopefully the weather on the rest of your trip was better than the evening we met :eek:

Scott

[Colson39]

I am sad to hear that this happened. Accidents are bound to happen though, there is nothing much you can do about it. We have had accidents ourselves with the golf carts, it can happen with carts, bikes, cars, skates, you name it. Large amounts of people unfamiliar with the area are bound to have accidents.

And I agree with BigDisneyDaddy, that is a difficult blind corner. They should somehow put up a mirror or make a little round-a-bout to open up the view so accidents would be less likely to happen.

I'm not sure what other route they could make the carts take from the pool to the meadow trading post, without making people drive all the way around the campsite to get to the other side. :/ Although it would be a nice excuse to drive around the Fort...lol

[proudmomof4]

Thats a difficult blind corner, if you arent VERY careful its easy to come up on people quickly. I heard several people, that were walking, commenting about how tight it is through there with the cart traffic.
Disney has the very best EMS service around with the Reedy creek emergency services so I ams ure they took good care of her.

Hopefully the weather on the rest of your trip was better than the evening we met :eek:

Scott

Yes, the weather was much better, that hail was kind of crazy. :scared1:

[bama_ed]

I hope the girl is okay. Hopefully there was nothing more than a few scrapes.

However, this situation was literally an accident waiting to happen. :headache:

We don't know any who-did-what in the accident but it's a tight s-turn through there with a lot of traffic. I listed on this board the golf cart problem-childern I've encountered around the bridge area behind the Meadow TP. And kids on bikes whiz through there so the odds were good that something would happen.

Maybe traffic one side going around the Meadow TP can be one-way and coming back the other way can be diverted around the other side of the TP.

Bama ED ::cop:

[proudmomof4]

I am sad to hear that this happened. Accidents are bound to happen though, there is nothing much you can do about it. We have had accidents ourselves with the golf carts, it can happen with carts, bikes, cars, skates, you name it. Large amounts of people unfamiliar with the area are bound to have accidents.

And I agree with BigDisneyDaddy, that is a difficult blind corner. They should somehow put up a mirror or make a little round-a-bout to open up the view so accidents would be less likely to happen.

I'm not sure what other route they could make the carts take from the pool to the meadow trading post, without making people drive all the way around the campsite to get to the other side. :/ Although it would be a nice excuse to drive around the Fort...lol

I agree too about the blind corner but people can try to make sure they slow down or even come to a stop before they proceed around it, pedestrians should be given the right of way on the sidewalks. I like the idea of a round-a-bout or a mirror though.

Believe me, with 4 boys I know accidents happen, 2 of my boys have been hit from behind by bike riders while we were walking on the sidewalk, once at POR and the other right in front of the bike barn. The one at the bike barn happened right in front of a CM and she said it happens all the time because the bike riders are too busy looking around and not paying attention to what is in front of them (and we were off to the side looking at the rental prices!). Luckily both times the boys only had scrapes and bruises with tire marks on their legs and the bike riders apologized.

[lrab1126]

that's terrible, i hope she is AOK. I agree about their EMS service having been one of their customers many years ago. There are a few places that are a bit dangerous with the carts and pedestrian traffic. I am sure the driver of the cart felt terrible too. :(

[stacktester]

There actually is a mirror there now but who's looking at it. I saw the security there too and saw the bike but no injured person.

I don't want to start another bad cart thread but I'm either buying a cart to even the playing field or I'm going to just walk or ride the bus. When we were here a few weeks ago I was almost hit twice by the same kid on different days. I feel like every time my DD and I are on our bikes I am constantly worrying about being hit. I'm really sick of it but what to do you know. I just have to be really careful and watch the golf carts.

[tellnotails]

Why on mickeys green earth do the CART PEOPLE have to cross that bridge..:sad2:


Would it kill them to park on one side or the other and walk the 60 feet a cross????


Maybe we could get the cable pull from River Country for those cart folks to use to get across..:rotfl: ...

I would sit there with my refillable mug and watch that..:drinking1 :drinking1 :drinking1

[big kahuna1]

Lets hope the bike rider is ok which I am sure they are.

I think we should ban bikes and pedestrians. Then this would not happen. There are just way too many bikes in FW anyway. They are everywhere you look. You cannot get away from them. It has really gotten out of hand. I think I will stop camping at FW unless they get this bike and pedestrian thing under control.

I think we should start our own FW police. We can have volunteers for each. We will need volunteers for the Cart Police, a Pedestrian Cop and the dreadful Bicylce cop. We can each volunteer each time we camp at FW. Maybe we can keep this stuff under control and stop all these accidents that happen every second of every day at the Fort. I mean it has just gotten WAAAAY out of hand.

So, who wants to volunteer?


:rolleyes1 :confused3

[Colson39]

lol Kahuna, well said ;)

[tellnotails]

Lets hope the bike rider is ok which I am sure they are.


:rolleyes1 :confused3


If I was the parent of that child.... there would be a mangled golf cart to go with the bike.........which I am sure ....about that ;)

[Colson39]

I'm sure the golf cart driver didn't intentionally hit the girl on the bike. It has already been mentioned numerous times in this thread that it is a very strange corner that lends itself to accidents because of how hard it is to see the other side.

It was an accident, not a hit and run ;)

[stacktester]

I was passing thru there last night on bikes and was thinking if they had a divider there or those fiberglass poles it might be safer. Just a thought. People come down the hill from the bridge on bikes and carts pretty quick. Maybe a divider would slow it down some.

[Colson39]

Yea, a divider would be nice, in fact I think those fiberglass poles would be a great idea, that would really slow people down if they had to squeeze through there, awesome idea!!

[JPG]

Lets hope the bike rider is ok which I am sure they are.

I think we should ban bikes and pedestrians. Then this would not happen. There are just way too many bikes in FW anyway. They are everywhere you look. You cannot get away from them. It has really gotten out of hand. I think I will stop camping at FW unless they get this bike and pedestrian thing under control.

I think we should start our own FW police. We can have volunteers for each. We will need volunteers for the Cart Police, a Pedestrian Cop and the dreadful Bicylce cop. We can each volunteer each time we camp at FW. Maybe we can keep this stuff under control and stop all these accidents that happen every second of every day at the Fort. I mean it has just gotten WAAAAY out of hand.

So, who wants to volunteer?


:rolleyes1 :confused3


:lmao:

[ftwildernessguy]

I may be wrong, but wasn't that bridge closed to carts up until a few years ago? I seem to remember those poles FW loves so much as barracades on both ends, kind of like they have at the foot bridge across from the 1500 loop.

[Colson39]

I do remember it being closed at times, but I'm not sure how long that goes back.

[big kahuna1]

Personally, I always stop and crawl through that turn onmy cart as I know it is a dangerous curve. I also think the majority do the same but I do agree there could be a better solution for that area.

I am like Colson39 and most of the time I do take the long way around to the Trading Post just to take the longer drive. This is a solution that would not bother me at all.

Hey Colson,

Just noticed you live in Delray. I am a Native also and currently live in Lake Charleston in Lake Worth. Born at Good Sam and have live in the Boynton, Delray area all my life.

[tellnotails]

I may be wrong, but wasn't that bridge closed to carts up until a few years ago? I seem to remember those poles FW loves so much as barracades on both ends, kind of like they have at the foot bridge across from the 1500 loop.

I agree.....prolly had to open it up to meet the needs of the disabled......:sad2:

[Colson39]

I agree.....prolly had to open it up to meet the needs of the disabled......

It has been opened and closed to golf cart traffic throughout the years, and people that drive golf carts are not disabled.

Personally, I always stop and crawl through that turn onmy cart as I know it is a dangerous curve. I also think the majority do the same but I do agree there could be a better solution for that area.

I agree, I do the same, always go slow around there, but they definitely should do something to lessen the chance of an accident. Most people I've noticed as well slow down, but those unfamiliar with the area might not know what is on the other side.

Hey Colson,

Just noticed you live in Delray. I am a Native also and currently live in Lake Charleston in Lake Worth. Born at Good Sam and have live in the Boynton, Delray area all my life.

Hey Neighbor! I was actually born in Miami, grew up in Pembroke Pines, just moved to Delray about a year ago, we love it here! I've worked in Delray for a while, but never even though about living here until we started looking for houses. I absolutely am in love with the area now, it really is a great community.

[Gatordad]

Just out of curiosity, and not that it matters, but was it a rental or private cart.... I'm sorry, I had to ask.

[tellnotails]

Just out of curiosity, and not that it matters, but was it a rental or private cart.... I'm sorry, I had to ask.

+1

Was the driver disabled or not disabled.......;)

[Colson39]

You know, another thing they could do would be to extend the path out a little bit and make it "curve" more in instead of being a totally blind corner. There is plenty of room there to do it, and it would definitely make visibility a lot easier.

[tellnotails]

Why not bank it like the Daytona 500...:car:

[John VN]

Add some speed bumps to the sidewalk..

Make the bridge a toll bridge to cross over for carts.

How about some pedestrian and bicyclist warning signs to alert the cart drivers.

How about people just use some common sense. Oh yeh, that is something that is in short supply.

[campingcorgi]

When we were there in early June we noticed that they were widening the concrete area around the curve (on the right as you go down the hill). Go slow, use the mirror, stay to the right, and hope a crazy kid on a bike doesn't come up on your side. Or go the long way, like I mostly do. :drive:

[tellnotails]

Add some speed bumps to the sidewalk..

Make the bridge a toll bridge to cross over for carts.

How about some pedestrian and bicyclist warning signs to alert the cart drivers.

How about people just use some common sense. Oh yeh, that is something that is in short supply.



+1 OFFICIAL POST OF THE DAY :hippie:

[Colson39]

When we were there in early June we noticed that they were widening the concrete area around the curve (on the right as you go down the hill). Go slow, use the mirror, stay to the right, and hope a crazy kid on a bike doesn't come up on your side. Or go the long way, like I mostly do. :drive:

So it does look like they're already taking some precautions, good news! :)

[Disney Campers]

:confused: :confused:

[Colson39]

:confused: :confused:

They're widening the path, that would make it at least a bit easier to see :)

[tellnotails]

:confused: :confused:

been like this all day.........;)

[Colson39]

been like this all day.........;)

Well that's what normally happens with these golf carts threads, or is it a smoking thread, or a we're not treated the same thread, or the smoking peacock golf carts are better at the WL thread...lol ;)

[AuburnJen92]

When we were just there, I did notice that they had added some width to the turn when you get off the bridge for the golf carts to turn with. It was more difficult to turn before and I really appreciated that extra 2 to 3 feet. I (probably the only one) did use the mirror, however, when you have your own cart, you don't want the paint scratched and definitely don't want to bump or hit anyone . My thoughts go out to the girl and her family. I only wish that people would realize that inertia will always win out in the end and you need to ride the brake down the bridge and not "let it fly." :car:

[tellnotails]

Just put a brush guard on the front......


I've seen some that could drive over a bike..:car: :eek:

[Colson39]

I know, aren't those awesome, love the big ones! :)

[christinou]

That turn has always scared me, my younger daughter is always scare to go down that hill, and often will walk her bike around the store on the boardwalk type of walkway.

[Gatordad]

It's the south, get 'dem Duke boys on it


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[Gatordad]

It's the south, get 'dem Duke boys on it


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[mrsgus06]

I was sitting at the pool when the accident happened. The cart was heading toward the bridge and the girl was coming down off of the bridge. The girl on the bike was about 16 and did not speak english. She was on the wrong side of the road (according to the employee) and she ran into the golf cart. The driver of the cart was 18 and it was a rented cart. The girl hurt her ankle but decided not to be transported. That is all I know about it. I think the report from the employee was accurate, but remember, it may be wrong.

[JPG]

she ran into the golf cart.

Hmmmm. Interesting...

[Colson39]

I was sitting at the pool when the accident happened. The cart was heading toward the bridge and the girl was coming down off of the bridge. The girl on the bike was about 16 and did not speak english. She was on the wrong side of the road (according to the employee) and she ran into the golf cart. The driver of the cart was 18 and it was a rented cart. The girl hurt her ankle but decided not to be transported. That is all I know about it. I think the report from the employee was accurate, but remember, it may be wrong.

So the bike ran into the golf cart? Funny how stories can change, kind of makes the dangerous golf cart driver not so dangerous now.

Not saying it's still not a corner waiting for an accident, but now reading back over this thread it does make me laugh in parts ;)

[iradi8]

When we were there in April we had a near miss. I was shaking when we got back to our camper -- we had our two young kids with us on our personal golf cart.

We were leaving the trading post heading towards the bridge going very slowly approaching the corner of the building when we were almost hit. It was two middle-age guys laughing and goofing off going incredibly fast from the bridge and around the turn -- I'm surprised they didn't flip it over. They came towards us head on but luckily I was able to avoid them. I said something to them and my dh got upset with me for saying something!:confused:

When I am approaching the bottom of the bridge and making that turn I stay to the far right and go very slowly. I have never understood why they don't make it safer!

[proudmomof4]

Just out of curiosity, and not that it matters, but was it a rental or private cart.... I'm sorry, I had to ask.

it was a FW rented cart.

[proudmomof4]

I am really sorry I even started this thread, I only wanted to share some information about what happened, and as with any other accident, more information can come out later which may or may not change the point of view. I only related what I saw and what I was told at the time and while many of you seemed genuinely concerned with the wellfare of the girl (I was told at the time of the accident that it was a little girl, not that it should matter her what her age is) others of you seem to be very insensitive about the whole thing and have a "oh well accidents will happen" attitude. I truly believe that those of you whole fall into the latter group would feel much differently if it was your child that this had happened to, no matter who is at fault (and if anyone would care to reread my opening post, I did not pass any blame to anyone or say who had the right of way). I did not start this as a golf cart controversy thread but I do believe FW may need to explore other options for golf cart/bike/pedestrian traffic, the next time there is an "accident" the outcome may be worse. I will certainly not start any more threads on this board but will become more of a reader and will only answer the most mundane questions posted. I am so sad to see what this forum has become in the last few months, it does not have the same friendly feelings it used to have.

So feel free to flame away as this will be you last chance to burn me. :sad2:

[stacktester]

I agree witcha proudmom. This used to be a fun forum that is turning into a mine's bigger than your's attitude. Let's see somebody's kid at Celebration Hospital who was run over by a golf cart no matter who is at fault and see what their opinion is then. I think golf carts, pedestrians and golf cart riders all need to be courteous to each other here at the fort. I saw a golf cart last night that obviously had a chip in it and it went by the 900 loop so fast it was like watching a race. You could hear this thing humming as it went by. There was no back seat and 2 people were standing on the back where the golf clubs go.

[iradi8]

IMO it seems that more people drive crazy when it's a rented cart. Maybe because of the novelty of it? I dunno. I know with our personal cart that we would freak out if we scratched or dented it so we are careful.:)

As far as speeding -- we can't -- we can barely get up the hill with it floored!:rotfl2:

[Disney Campers]

So feel free to flame away as this will be you last chance to burn me

Not gonna let that happen

I did not start this as a golf cart controversy thread

Since it has evolved into this and some of the posts are in poor taste its now closed