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tk1652
07-01-2007, 01:22 PM
What's the best solution to avoiding the point-heavy Friday/Saturday night stays when you're a DVC member?

I look at the points required for staying on those 2 nights alone and it seems like we could stay 5 more days if we could avoid spending points on these 2 nights.

Do you take Disney buses to another on-property Disney hotel? Is it even allowed to take luggage on the buses?

Do you take a cab to another hotel?

Do you bite the bullet and just pay the points?

I'd love to hear strategies about this.

Thanks!
Rick

Chuck S
07-01-2007, 02:09 PM
Personally, we tend to stay 9 to 12 days per trip with one weekend in the middle of the trip, so the points aren;t so bad. I would never schedule a trip to encompass more than one weekend on points.

If you want to stay off-site, you can take a cab or rent a car. When we first joined we stayed offsite on weekends...we got tired of moving and added more points. ;)

If you want to transfer to another Disney resort, bell services will transfer your luggage for you, while you go enjoy the parks.

JohnNJ
07-01-2007, 02:20 PM
In the past I always tried to maximize my time at WDW while minimizing my vacation days from work. That meant arriving Friday night and staying through the following Sunday.

That plan doesn't work with DVC because of the two weekends worth of points. Now I still come down Friday night but I stay someplace on cash for the first Friday and Saturday nights and use points for the second set. It's kind of a compromise. There's now way I'd change rooms more than once.

Candace
07-01-2007, 02:25 PM
What's the best solution to avoiding the point-heavy Friday/Saturday night stays when you're a DVC member?

I look at the points required for staying on those 2 nights alone and it seems like we could stay 5 more days if we could avoid spending points on these 2 nights.

Do you take Disney buses to another on-property Disney hotel? Is it even allowed to take luggage on the buses?

Do you take a cab to another hotel?

Do you bite the bullet and just pay the points?

I'd love to hear strategies about this.

Thanks!
Rick

To save on those weekend points, I have arrived and checked into a moderate resort for the weekend, and I have also once stayed the weekend at a Universal Studios hotel so my boys could have the FOTL privelege there for a couple of days. If you move at the END of your stay, just take your luggage to Bell Services; they will tag it and move it to another Disney hotel. You can then do whatever you like for the day, then take the bus to your new location. They make it very easy to stay on site!

auntsue
07-01-2007, 02:37 PM
It is hard to use those points on the weekend, but we, personally, just find it too much of a hassle to move for the weekend. We just force ourselves to divide the whole amount by seven, so it doesn't seem so bad.

While I was working, we would fly down on Friday night and either spend the night off-site or at the Dolphin or Swan for the teacher's rate. Off site was very economical. We never had a car, so we would just have the car service that we used from the airport pick us up in the morning and drive us over to the BWV. It was very reasonable.

From the Dolphin, Swan or any Disney hotel, they have a luggage transfer service which moves your luggage for you.

You can often find discount codes at Mousesaver's.

I think it is a lot easier to move at the beginning of the trip rather than at the end. Just pack a small overnight bag, and then you're ready to move on. Towards the end of the trip, you just don't have the energy you had at the beginning, and you probably have a lot more stuff to pack up.

WDWLVR
07-01-2007, 02:40 PM
When we made our initial purchase we did so figuring an entire week (including weekends) in a one bedroom). I'd rather just get there and enjoy than worry about moving.

OKW Lover
07-01-2007, 02:45 PM
Although we have done Friday and/or Saturday night stays, we often will try to avoid them by arriving on Sunday and leaving on Friday. When we do that, we usually fly in on a Saturday but stay off-site that night. We then get Sunday breakfast at Perkins (just across the road from Hotel Plaza Blvd) and head for DVC.

flyerron
07-01-2007, 02:47 PM
Yeah, We bought enought points to stay a week (and a couple days extra if we want). The hassle of moving grows old & take valuable time. We think it is better to bite the bullet & buy a few more points & be comfortable staying in one location. Money is replaceable. being aggrevated on a Disney vacation can ruin the trip, & if it is a regular thing, it is not worth it.

mowog
07-01-2007, 03:20 PM
We have a trip at BCV coming up. We have Sunday to Friday booked in a 2BR.

Anyway- We've decided to fly down Sat AM by ourselves and get another day in. I booked a room at All Star Movie for mid $90. I'm fearing check in, so inquired about a night at AKL, since we have Jiko booked for dinner. A Savannah view room would be about $360 inclusive for 1 night! The DVC rate is 16-23 points for a studio, while BCV is 22. At my price per point (not counting time value of money) this is $110-160 per Saturday night (studio). So although double the week day rate, the DVC weekends are still a good value. I came late to the "buy enough points for the weekend" train of thought, but now I'm a believer.

goofydiz
07-01-2007, 03:48 PM
When we first joined we figured we would just avoid the weekend. But it's just not that easy with our DDs schedule. It seems that everytime we plan a trip we end up forking over the extra points for the weekend. So we just suck it up and pay the points and enjoy our trip. I can't see taking time away from our trip to worry about moving. I'd rather enjoy my trip instead.

kda
07-01-2007, 04:33 PM
We usually stay in another resort the first Saturday night (ie, Swan / Dolphin, POP, or one of the mods on a discount) and get there mid-afternoon or evening. The luggage is packed so the few things we need for that one night are in the carry on or on top of the suitcase, so there's not really much to unpack and re-pack. When I get up Sunday AM, I go check in to DVC and get our room. I really like to go early in the AM when staying at OKW because they have always offered us a choice of rooms, even though they're not usually ready.

Then we stay from Sunday to the following Monday at DVC in a 1 bedroom .......... so we're not really packing as much as we used to. We're usually there in the less busy months, so we're not using as many points anyway. It would be too much hassle for us to move the 2nd weekend, unless we could get a discount rate at one of the regular WDW resorts that we really want to stay in (or a Universal resort).

It's a really bummer that a quick 4 day weekend really takes a lot, but that's how it goes! Then we'd always stay in a studio. It's easier to look at the total # of points per week, rather than # of points for each night.

R Dog Walt
07-01-2007, 05:51 PM
Everyone has a lot of ideas here. I agree that the "good shopper" in me thinks about the points needed for a weekend night. I like to get as many days as possible each year since we only have 200 points.

We've done a variety of things. We have bit the bullet and stayed 7 nights (and tried to forget about the weekend points).

If we're driving we live about 15 hours away, so we'll book an All Star for a Saturday evening. That way if we get in late, it's no big deal.

We've also split the difference before and flew in on Friday, stayed at a moderate (if we can get a good deal), and checked in to DVC on Saturday (therefore only using points for 1 weekend night). This plan makes a good 6 day trip.

As was said before, Disney will transfer your bags. It was no big deal- we went to the parks and came back, checked in, and then had bell services bring our bags.

beacher
07-01-2007, 06:03 PM
We fly in on Sunday and leave on Saturday and stay all on points in one room. That only costs us 1 night at weekend rates and we have come to enjoy having the Saturday prep day before leaving and the Sunday unwind day after we come home.

Our first year or two I used to pay cash for weekend nights with the member discount but that has become impossible, since we like the standard views at BWV and the 2BR-2Q at BCV. Also availability of the rooms getting released for cash at members' discount started to become "iffy" and I'd rather be set.

mprewitt
07-01-2007, 07:14 PM
For our next trip, we're staying 5 nights (Sun-Thu) in a 1 BR at OKW, and then switching to a Studio for 1 night (Fri) at VWL. I've never tried this, and it seems like it may be a big hassle, but I didn't want to pay double points for Friday night.

Deb & Bill
07-01-2007, 07:18 PM
In June we spent 8 nights at BCV including two Fridays and one Saturday. We hate to move and it's more convenient to just stay.

daisyduck123
07-01-2007, 07:44 PM
What's the best solution to avoiding the point-heavy Friday/Saturday night stays when you're a DVC member?



Thanks!
Rick

Our trip last month, we spent a Friday nite at POP before checking into SSR for 8 nights. That one night saved us a few points.

Later this month, we're spending 3 nights at the Dolphin before checking into BCV on a Sunday (and we'll check out of BCV the following Friday).

DebbieB
07-01-2007, 08:50 PM
There will be a new twist if the rumor comes true that WDW resorts are going to charge more for Friday and Saturday nights in 2008.

starbox
07-01-2007, 09:32 PM
My plan for 08 is going to be to do Sun-Thurs at WDW, Fri and Sat with member's cash at VB (rack rate is MUCH lower there), points Sun-Tues at VB and then points at WDW again Wednesday and Thursday. :thumbsup2

GEB@okw
07-01-2007, 09:47 PM
I can not believe no one else has tried this: Stay five nights on points, two nights on cash with member discount and then another five nights on points. MS can link the three ressies together for one stay with no moving. I have to say though that in the last 10 years the prices for cash on weekends vs. the weekend point cost has evened out to where it's cheaper on points for Friday/Saturday. IE- 20 points for an OKW studio when it's 279 a night plus tax.

JohnNJ
07-01-2007, 09:55 PM
For our next trip, we're staying 5 nights (Sun-Thu) in a 1 BR at OKW, and then switching to a Studio for 1 night (Fri) at VWL. I've never tried this, and it seems like it may be a big hassle, but I didn't want to pay double points for Friday night.

But you are paying double points for the studio on Friday. It's less points than a one bedroom but it's still double.

rie'smom
07-01-2007, 10:02 PM
We usually stay for about 10-14 days. We arrive on Friday and check-in at either the Swan or Dolphin. Then we move to BWV on Sunday and checkout on Friday. From there it's on to the Royal Pacific at Universal.
I like to save points because when we go,our daughter always brings a friend. We get a 2 bd. bbecause we don't like to be on top of each other.

buzz5985
07-02-2007, 01:37 AM
Last summer was a big experiment for us. We flew down and didn't rent a car. A first for us. We used ME and gardengrocer. We were there for 2 weeks. We checked into OKW 2 BR, moved to WL conceirge, than moved to BCV 2 BR. Disney transferred the bags. Gardengrocer brought us our food and alcohol. We were happy. Everything worked well.

We tend to plan our days were we are staying. So when we were at OKW - we went to AK, DTD. WL - MK, BCV - Epcot and MGM. On our first moving day, DH, DS, and Grampy went to MK while I went to check in at the WL. They were only at the MK for about 20 minutes before I arrived, with lunch waiting at Pecos Bills.

We also split the DDP. First week we did the plan - 2nd week relaxed. So there is a plus for splitting stays.

Janis

DisneyBB
07-02-2007, 01:48 AM
We tend to go for 3 weeks so it is too hard to move around much. Christmas 2005 we didn't have enough points for our 25 night stay, so we stayed 3 nights at all stars to avoid the first WE points (not really unpacking) the kids loved it! Then we moved to our 1 bed in OKW until the 27th Dec, then moved to the Dolphin for 5 nights (the points that year were really massive for NYE as it fell on a weekend) to be near Epcot, and finally back to a 1 bed in OKW. It was a lot of moving, but we managed it. Even with our 5 year old getting really sick on NYE.

This Christmas we are staying a a value for Sat night at AKL, then moving to a 1 bed (on waitlist) at AKL for 3 nights with DDP. We are then moving to OKW for the remainder. So the sat night in a value saves us lots of points and this is what we intend to do to avoid the first weekend. Staying in a studio for a few nights and then move to the bigger accommadation. It is to harder to to it the other way around. I hate arriving on a Sat and blowing all those points straight away.

alldiz
07-02-2007, 06:04 AM
I'm a new DVC owner with an extra yrs points....

I threw caution to the wind....
Next trip is.....thurs, fri and sat only in DVC:scared1:
Before I switch to pofq for free dining....

I did not think about weekend points....
i just really wanted to try BCV...in the summer to enjoy pool....

Next year....i will be more point conscious:goodvibes
Kerri

jimmytammy
07-02-2007, 06:11 AM
If we go for more than a week we stay on pts over the Fri-Sat stay. Sometimes we will go in early and stay at the All Stars for a Fri-Sat then move to a DVC resort. But we dont break up the DVC stay by moving in and out.

jimmytammy
07-02-2007, 06:18 AM
I'm a new DVC owner with an extra yrs points....

I threw caution to the wind....
Next trip is.....thurs, fri and sat only in DVC:scared1:
Before I switch to pofq for free dining....

I did not think about weekend points....
i just really wanted to try BCV...in the summer to enjoy pool....

Next year....i will be more point conscious:goodvibes
Kerri

Kerri

Dont sweat it! As time goes on, you will figure out how to use those pts to your advantage and how to squeeze extra nights in and such:thumbsup2

I remember when we 1st bought pts, we had 170 then an add-on of 5o before making that 1st trip home. We had those pts almost a year before making the trip. We were real conservative, only using 80 pts, scared we would overuse them or something:confused3

But after that trip, we caught on real quick and started juggling the points in all kinds of scenarios. Lets just say you will be planning 2-3 trips down the road before you know it;) and that will put you on :cloud9: as an owner.

Have fun planning and on that 1st trip home!

mprewitt
07-02-2007, 08:09 AM
But you are paying double points for the studio on Friday. It's less points than a one bedroom but it's still double.

For Sunday to Thursday night, we stay in 1 BR, and then switch to a studio for Sat night. Yes, Sat night is still double the points of the prior nights, but by switching from a 1BR to a studio, the points used for my Sat night stay is about the same as the points used for each of my other nights. So Saturday costs about the same as a regular weeknight.

sheryl0521
07-02-2007, 08:25 AM
Pay cash for the weekend night and link it to the point ressie. Works every time for us.

iluveeyore
07-02-2007, 09:44 AM
We are in a 2 bedroom with another family this year (11 days from now!), and we lucked out because we got the AP rate for the weekend ($450 cash or $225 each family), so we have points for two weeks, cash for the weekend and cash AP rate for the last night (Friday). Our friends rented points for their portion of the 2 bedroom as we do not have enough and they are not DVC members. All of the ressies are linked and we do not have to move for 14 days!
When we go with just four of us, we get a 1 bedroom, always arrive on a Sunday, and if necessary rent extra points for the weekend in between so we can stay for twelve nights - we find renting is cheaper than cash rate. We have moved to Pop or a mod on the weekends if we find good AP rates to save money, but like other posters have said, it's easier if you don't have to move since it takes a couple of days worth of relaxing away spent checking in/checking out and moving around.

Deb & Bill
07-02-2007, 12:15 PM
Doesn't spending cash on weekend nights kind of defeat the purpose of DVC? Couldn't you use the money you spend for the cash nights to get a few more points for the next 30-50 years? After paying cash for four or five trips, you might have enough money for the points needed for those weekend nights.

sheryl0521
07-02-2007, 12:27 PM
Doesn't spending cash on weekend nights kind of defeat the purpose of DVC? Couldn't you use the money you spend for the cash nights to get a few more points for the next 30-50 years? After paying cash for four or five trips, you might have enough money for the points needed for those weekend nights.

DH isn't a big fan of the monthly maintenance fees. If we were to add on 50 (or so) points to cover the weekend stays, our monthly rate would increase.

deerh
07-02-2007, 12:29 PM
We do both..

Sometimes we do Pop Cent for Fri/Sat nite, then 5 nights at BWV...
Other times we stay 1 week at BWV.. We bought enought pts to stay 1 week,
but when we want to stretch the pts, we stay 5 nights at BWV...

DeerH

SwhJess
07-02-2007, 02:24 PM
We do 5 nights in a 1 BR (Sun-Thur), then we head to the beach - on the West coast of FL somewhere for Fri-Sat, then back to WDW for a studio for 3 more nights. It gives us a nice break from the rush of the parks, and we can lay on the beach relaxing for 2 days, knowing we're saving points! It also gives us the opportunity to stay the longer portion at Home at SSR, then to try one of the other DVCs for the shorter portion, to get to experience all of it!

Of course, we rent a car and we have no kids yet (packing up and moving is pretty easy for us) - so it works for us for now :thumbsup2

iluveeyore
07-02-2007, 05:13 PM
Deb - spending cash doesn't defeat the purpose of having DVC - we own DVC, but some trips require a bit more points (like when our friends are coming this trip), and some trips we don't need extra points. Plus, we don't have the extra $5000 min. to buy extra points, just paid off our original points last year, so spending $300-500 this trip and nothing extra next trip fits in with our budget right now. I'd love to own enough points to never have to rent or pay cash again, but we still have to put money aside to pay our annual dues right after Christmas every year, so we're happy with the amount we have - heck, I'm just happy to own DVC no matter how many points I have:cloud9:

flyerron
07-02-2007, 05:23 PM
Iluveeyore, I think you have the right spirit for this whole concept. There is too much hassle moving around instead of just relaxing & enjoying the Magic. When you have to think too much & worry about moving, etc, the time & energy spent can wear you out.

tacomaranch
07-02-2007, 05:49 PM
I am finding that the flights we get are on Tues/Wed for the cheapest. I thought when buying that we move out for the weekends but now I find that once I get settled in, I don't want to pack up, move and then move back.

So, I have learned that I need more points. We use ME so we have to stay on site. We are spending our first nite in a value on this trip and are excited to see what it is like, for 1 nite.

Then we move to our 1 br villa for the next 7 nites.

I say just bite the bullet and get enough points to stay the weekends. JMO

DeeCee735
07-02-2007, 09:37 PM
We usually arrive on a Saturday night, and leave Saturday morning of the following week. Therefore, we will stay at a moderate for that first Saturday night, or even a value - Pop Century for instance. We love being on Disney property, and we love checking out other places, so this gives us a chance to do so. We don't mind using points for one Friday night, and originally purchased enough to do so in a one bedroom (added on a couple of times, so now we can stay in a 2!) Have fun planning!

DebbieB
07-02-2007, 10:06 PM
Doesn't spending cash on weekend nights kind of defeat the purpose of DVC? Couldn't you use the money you spend for the cash nights to get a few more points for the next 30-50 years? After paying cash for four or five trips, you might have enough money for the points needed for those weekend nights.

I have run numbers and don't think that's true. When my mom was alive, I would pay cash for Friday or Saturday nights at OKW, 1 bedroom in May. It was around $320 vs 48 points. Less than $7 per point. If you take the initial cost of points and amortize it over the years left plus add maintenance of almost $5 per point (which will increase probably about the same rate as cash nights), it comes out about even. No committment to years of extra points, which was important to me since my mom had cancer and I knew our DVC trips were not long-term.

alldiz
07-03-2007, 06:31 AM
Kerri

Dont sweat it! As time goes on, you will figure out how to use those pts to your advantage and how to squeeze extra nights in and such:thumbsup2

I remember when we 1st bought pts, we had 170 then an add-on of 5o before making that 1st trip home. We had those pts almost a year before making the trip. We were real conservative, only using 80 pts, scared we would overuse them or something:confused3

But after that trip, we caught on real quick and started juggling the points in all kinds of scenarios. Lets just say you will be planning 2-3 trips down the road before you know it;) and that will put you on :cloud9: as an owner.

Have fun planning and on that 1st trip home!

Thanks.....It was funny....I had the points all of 5 min....
When I booked....1week at SSR in may 1br...
then 3nights in aug at BCV in 1br...

I figured we would splurge 1st yr....
I'm hoping DH....loves 1br...and insists on an add-on....:laughing:

After leaving BCV 1br....to go to pofq....
My plan might just work:lmao: :goodvibes
Kerri

dianeschlicht
07-03-2007, 07:11 AM
My DH would never go for paying cash when we already own DVC. We purchased DVC to make staying in a deluxe more economical, and if we are still paying for some nights, that isn't happening. We purchsed more points twice to avoid that. The thing is, if you look at maintenance fees like the tax that you no longer have to pay, it will make more sense. In the 10 years we have been members, we have only paid for a room at WDW once, and that was at PORS for a Saturday night when we changed our plans last minute and came in on a late Saturday flight instead of an early Sunday one.

jdvm
07-03-2007, 11:23 AM
As expensive as weekends are (in terms of points), I'd rather chop an arm off than try to move my four daughters' stuff out of a room once we've checked in. I know a lot of people don't mind moving be we certainly do. We sometimes switch from points to cash for the weekends, but moving ain't an option!
John