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lonegungirl
06-29-2007, 06:07 PM
Hey--I have a friend who's trying to plan out a trip. She says that she could only get an ADR at one place for around 3:45 for dinner at the latest right now, and was then told that she could not make another ADR at a different place for 7:45pm that same night. It seems reasonable that you might be hungry again after 4 hours--are other people having the same issue of not being able to book 2 ADRs for the same meal, even if there's a big time difference between them? Or did she just get an exceptionally diligent CM?

Thanks.

dizcrazed
06-29-2007, 08:57 PM
I booked 2 adrs for the same night, they did not say anything to me. i ended up cancelling though because we were not hungry for the later time

Kata
06-29-2007, 09:35 PM
I had a problem booking 2 "dinners" when I booked my ADR'S a few weeks ago even though they were 5 hours apart. I eat most of my meals later in the day when I go to WDW because I am not a big breakfast eater especially when I go on alot of rides.I also prefer the dinner menus. I was told by 2 CM that I couldn't book 2 "dinners" even though they were 5 hours apart. I could however book a lunch and a dinner 1 hour apart :confused3. I was also told that if it was discovered that I had double booked my meals that all my ADR'S could be cancelled.I really think this is a cliche that WDW should fix because people should be able to eat 2 meals that are 5 hours apart,its not like I am booking 2 meals at the same time.The CM I talked to tried to get me to book lunch instead at Le Cellier but if you want the mushroom filet you can't get that at lunch. It would also be nice if the popular restaurants had the same menu at lunch and dinner so that if there is a certain entree you wanted you could have the option of either meal.:)

kimbac3
06-29-2007, 09:56 PM
That is odd because currently I have 2 ADR's at the same restaurant for the same night! I'd tell her to call back and speak to someone else.

And..yes, I am planning on cancelling one of them..probably tomorrow.

Kimba

Kata
06-30-2007, 08:52 AM
That is odd because currently I have 2 ADR's at the same restaurant for the same night! I'd tell her to call back and speak to someone else.

And..yes, I am planning on cancelling one of them..probably tomorrow.

Kimba

The 1 st CM I spoke to actually asked a supervisor and she told her that if my 2 "dinner" ADR's were found all of my ADR's may be cancelled. When I called again I got a really great CM who agreed with her, he did tell me that WDW dining is really getting strict on double booking the same meals.
Also the CM who said I was double booking actually didn't make both of my dinner ADR's but somehow my other ADR must have appeared somehow when I tried to book the 2nd dinner.I was forced to choose the ADR I wanted to keep.:)

Hannathy
06-30-2007, 09:43 AM
The 1 st CM I spoke to actually asked a supervisor and she told her that if my 2 "dinner" ADR's were found all of my ADR's may be cancelled. When I called again I got a really great CM who agreed with her, he did tell me that WDW dining is really getting strict on double booking the same meals.
Also the CM who said I was double booking actually didn't make both of my dinner ADR's but somehow my other ADR must have appeared somehow when I tried to book the 2nd dinner.I was forced to choose the ADR I wanted to keep.:)

I'm glad to see Disney cracking down on this. With everyone on the dining plan it is getting very hard to get ADR's and yet when you get there there are empty tables. Doesn't seem fair to me that people hold multiple ADR's just because they are indecisive, it's the old ME, ME, ME entitlement, and others can't get one anywhere.

DreaminDisney
06-30-2007, 09:56 AM
I almost had a problem booking the afternoon tea @ 2:10 and then dinner @ 7:30 that same night. CM said I couldn't double book and I told her I was going to "afternoon tea" and I was able to book the dinner but after I hung up I still thought it was weird for her to say anything even if I had an ADR for lunch @ 2:10 because it wasn't like I was booking 2 places within an hour of each other:confused3
They must really be cracking down for them to say something to me:confused:

Kata
06-30-2007, 09:59 AM
I'm glad to see Disney cracking down on this. With everyone on the dining plan it is getting very hard to get ADR's and yet when you get there there are empty tables. Doesn't seem fair to me that people hold multiple ADR's just because they are indecisive, it's the old ME, ME, ME entitlement, and others can't get one anywhere.

I do agree that people should not be able to book 2 different restaurants at the same time slot,but I want to eat one meal at 4 pm and one at 9:30 pm because I don't eat much earlier in the day.I don't feel this should be a problem. I would gladly give a CC number to secure my ADR. I didn't have any intention of not eating both meals. It doesn't make sense that I could book a lunch ADR for 3 pm and a dinner ADR for 4pm on the same day because they are 2 different meals but I can't book 2 dinner ADR's 5 1/2 hours apart because they are both dinners. There is definetely a cliche in WDW dining policy.
:confused3

kimbac3
06-30-2007, 10:10 AM
I'm glad to see Disney cracking down on this. With everyone on the dining plan it is getting very hard to get ADR's and yet when you get there there are empty tables. Doesn't seem fair to me that people hold multiple ADR's just because they are indecisive, it's the old ME, ME, ME entitlement, and others can't get one anywhere.

Mine was done by accident. I called to make a new ADR and while I had her on the phone I asked her to check if there were any earlier ones for the night in questions. There was. I took it and then hung up. It wasn't until the next day that I realized she didn't cancel my other one.

I did call and cancel that one today and confirmed all the rest. So sometimes it really is an honest mistake and not a me, me, me kind of thing. Although I do think that happens less frequently then people double booking because they want options.

I hope that made sense...I don't feel to well today:sick: , so please bear with me!

Kimba

Hannathy
06-30-2007, 10:36 AM
Mine was done by accident. I called to make a new ADR and while I had her on the phone I asked her to check if there were any earlier ones for the night in questions. There was. I took it and then hung up. It wasn't until the next day that I realized she didn't cancel my other one.

Kimba

Oh I wasn't picking on you! Please don't take it that way. If you read a lot of the posts you will see a lot of people book multiple places so they don't have to decide which park they want to go to until they get there. These are the folks I was referring to. They know they won't keep both and feel it is fine as long as the cancel an hour ahead of time which doesn't help anyone trying to make ADR's, only a few walk ups.

mickaholic4077
06-30-2007, 11:40 AM
If your friend really wants to eat both places without running the risk of her ADR's being cancelled,make one in one name w/ one phone number,and the other with someone else's name in the party with another number. This was recommended to me by a CM,so I feel fine in giving you this advice.

Colleen27
06-30-2007, 04:56 PM
I'm glad to see Disney cracking down on this. With everyone on the dining plan it is getting very hard to get ADR's and yet when you get there there are empty tables. Doesn't seem fair to me that people hold multiple ADR's just because they are indecisive, it's the old ME, ME, ME entitlement, and others can't get one anywhere.

And it makes sense to crack down on those people who are basically saying "We want to eat at 6 but we don't know what park we'll be in, so we'll just make ADRs for Mama Melrose, Le Cellier, and Crystal Palace and use whichever one works." It doesn't make sense, however, to prohibit making a 3:30 "dinner" reservation for lunch and a 9:30 "dinner" reservation for dinner. It makes sense to restrict multiple ADRs, but it should only raise a red flag if they are within a certain time frame, say 3 hours or less between them.

Soubrette
06-30-2007, 05:31 PM
Oh I wasn't picking on you! Please don't take it that way. If you read a lot of the posts you will see a lot of people book multiple places so they don't have to decide which park they want to go to until they get there. These are the folks I was referring to. They know they won't keep both and feel it is fine as long as the cancel an hour ahead of time which doesn't help anyone trying to make ADR's, only a few walk ups.

Walk-ups are people too ;)

I agree with the poster who suggested using the name of someone else in your party.

Hannathy
06-30-2007, 06:00 PM
Walk-ups are people too ;)

I agree with the poster who suggested using the name of someone else in your party.

Yes but most people don't want to risk it and when they can't get their first choice will pick somewhere else or another less convenient or desirable time. Most people won't walk around with their family taking a chance that someone will cancel and they can get in. So One person ties up 2 spots and one family gets to eat somewhere they may not really have wanted so the one family can decide at the last minute. Not very considerate.

lonegungirl
07-01-2007, 07:02 AM
So it does sound like the double-booking restriction isn't just an isolated incident. I think I would agree that it's a good thing to eliminate people making 5 different ADRS for the same time, but if the ADR is over 3 hours apart, I also thing it's justifiable to consider them different meals--besides, aren't all the diet experts always telling us to eat every 3 hours anyway? ;)

I'll let her know about having someone else in her party book whatever other ADRs she needs. I think that should be workable. Thanks.

crisi
07-01-2007, 09:42 AM
So it does sound like the double-booking restriction isn't just an isolated incident. I think I would agree that it's a good thing to eliminate people making 5 different ADRS for the same time, but if the ADR is over 3 hours apart, I also thing it's justifiable to consider them different meals--besides, aren't all the diet experts always telling us to eat every 3 hours anyway? ;)

I'll let her know about having someone else in her party book whatever other ADRs she needs. I think that should be workable. Thanks.

You can book a late lunch (3:30) and then dinner at 9:00 and do just fine, but you can't book two reservations for the same "meal" and not risk having one cancelled.

I think it has less to do with no-shows and more to do with capacity for the people that DO show. Disney just doesn't have enough restaurants and enough tables for everyone - particularly when they sell a lot of the dining plan and particularly over dinner. Someone eating dinner twice limits the availability of tables for people who haven't yet eaten once - and some of those people already paid via the dining plan and are going to be even more unhappy than a cash guest.

septbaby
07-01-2007, 11:39 AM
It is very hard for Disney to plan staffing, restaurant hours and growth with double or even triple reservations. With multiple ADRs for the "same" meal Disney may look in the system and see, we have 1000 tables, when in reality its only 900 because 10% of the tables were duplicate reservations.

Right now Disney has a real responsibility to guests in the Free DDP promotion to give them a chance to use their TS credits. Most will use ADRs for this. So if the ADR system shows full, Disney has to try to uncover the phantom seats (even though that was never your intent) to fully utilize their capacity. Give them credit they are trying: Citricos will host GF Cafe guests for lunch while GF Cafe host the 1900 Park Fare guest, Chef Mickey's is adding lunch, etc. Disney is staffing up and being creative to use their space. Also the DDP is flexible in that we can actually book more than 1TS meal a day if we want. What if the rule was changed to say you can only book one TS (1 or 2 credit) daily? This isn't to say that we are trying to dup the system, but Disney has a lot of "us" to accomodate and I think they are using the tools appropiately to do so.

Disney decides when to start and end the dinner and lunch windows. For most of us dinner doesn't start until 5pm, for disney its more like 4pm. So we are thinking 4pm is lunch and a late dinner at 9pm whereas for Disney its two dinners. To work within the system the best thing to to is move the lunch up to Disney's lunch window(yes that means the lunch menu) or split the ADRs into different days.

Personally, we have all our ADRs and it wasn't that hard to get them. I still have one to cancel, park restaurant but no park ticket that day..lol There is one scenario that would still allow us to use the ADR, but its not likely. So someone will get a nice lunch at Coral Reef instead of us and that will be OK. We will have to try for Coral Reef another time.

Hope you all have fantastic dining experiences at Disney!

DebbieB
07-01-2007, 12:22 PM
If your friend really wants to eat both places without running the risk of her ADR's being cancelled,make one in one name w/ one phone number,and the other with someone else's name in the party with another number. This was recommended to me by a CM,so I feel fine in giving you this advice.

I agree, with different phone numbers and different names, there's no way they could trace both back to you. I don't advocate double bookings but if one is at 3:00 and one at 7:00, I think it's ridiculous you can't book both. You could want to try out both places and do light meals at both.

lonegungirl
07-04-2007, 05:34 PM
Just an update--I called to make my ADRs and then asked the CM about making 2 for the same meal. She said that they were not allowed to make 2 ADRs for the same meal, and that further, they had formed a team of people who audit the ADRs each night looking for duplicates. If they find them, the ADRs are supposedly canceled and the guests are not notified.

She then went on for some time about a meeting they had where they pulled up a list from one woman who had made around 57 ADRs for a 1 week trip! And who was apparently still calling in and making more, I presume, all unaware that they were being canceled. The CM was flabbergasted, and said that after that, they were forced to monitor things more closely.

She also recommended in this particular case, to just put one of the ADRs under someone else's name as it was a reasonable scenario and not an obvious attempt to circumvent the system.

Soo, I guess that's the current policy...for today, anyway. ;) I suppose the upside is that if they succeed in getting people down to 1 ADR/meal/day, things might open up more for walkups, last minute dining, etc.

GoochiGirl
07-04-2007, 06:49 PM
I am traveling with another family for our August trip. When I called to make my ADR's I informed the CM's who took my ressies of this. Each time I called to make a new ADR they told me two make two ADR's for the same time in the same resteraunt. We are not planning on sitting together but just want to eat our meals at the same times but they put them both in my name since I was planning this trip and makin gthe ressies. In every instance they gave me two different ADR confirmation #'s for each resteraunt. I called to confirm my ADR's today and they were all still there. I hope they don't cancel them and ruin my trip.:sad1:

chrismb22
07-04-2007, 09:02 PM
Slightly off topic, what if I make my reservation for 4 people and only two of us show up? Will they seat only two of us?

mickaholic4077
07-05-2007, 11:39 AM
Yes thry will.

EMom
07-05-2007, 02:26 PM
We have booked more ADRs than we have DDP credits for because we're paying for some OOP.

We have breakfast ADR one day with dinner ADR that same evening. Since they are not the same MEAL, that should not be a problem, right?

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GoochiGirl
07-05-2007, 03:07 PM
Just an update--I called to make my ADRs and then asked the CM about making 2 for the same meal. She said that they were not allowed to make 2 ADRs for the same meal, and that further, they had formed a team of people who audit the ADRs each night looking for duplicates. If they find them, the ADRs are supposedly canceled and the guests are not notified.

She then went on for some time about a meeting they had where they pulled up a list from one woman who had made around 57 ADRs for a 1 week trip! And who was apparently still calling in and making more, I presume, all unaware that they were being canceled. The CM was flabbergasted, and said that after that, they were forced to monitor things more closely.

She also recommended in this particular case, to just put one of the ADRs under someone else's name as it was a reasonable scenario and not an obvious attempt to circumvent the system.

Soo, I guess that's the current policy...for today, anyway. ;) I suppose the upside is that if they succeed in getting people down to 1 ADR/meal/day, things might open up more for walkups, last minute dining, etc.

I called today to confirm all of my ADR's and they are still there. I asked this CM if it was ok that I have two ADR's for the same resteraunt at the same time and she was the 4th Cm to tell me it was fine because they are for two different parties and have two different confirmation #'s even though they are both under my name and number. She assured me just as the other CM's that they will not be canceled because of this. I am not sure what kind of cases the Disney DIning Detectives are looking for ::cop:, but it is not mine.;)

marvin12
07-05-2007, 03:38 PM
Emom.. you should be fine we do this all the time, pay for breakfast out of our pocket and ddp in the evening.

EMom
07-05-2007, 03:57 PM
Actually, we're using DDP for both of those meals on that day. But when you make reservations, they have no way of knowing which meals you will pay for and which you will use the DDP for.

Lots of people refuse to use 2 TS for CRT, and decide to pay OOP. They use that leftover TS some other day. (Such as for a breakfast and later and dinner.)

I can see them refusing to "double book" dinners, since so many people book multiple ADRs for one meal. But as one poster said, it gets tricky when "dinner" can begin at 3:00.

Tink3Belle
07-05-2007, 04:25 PM
I have a 12:50 for Lecellier for lunch and a chef mickey at 5:10 for dinner they better not cancel mine I was just trying to schedule a lunch and a dinner at the times they had available. Yikes!

chrismb22
07-05-2007, 06:03 PM
THANKS! Since I'm going to be booking for 2 different sets of people (myself and boyfriend and then best friend and her husband) I might do my stuff and then hang up and pretend to be her. This way we are covered all the way LOL!