DVC: Pop Century?

[fAnnF]

I was talking to a CM when I was in Disney a few weeks ago, and she said they had received something about doing DVC at Pop. A couple of buildings on the other side of the lake. Has anyone else heard of this I'd love to do DVC at Pop, or was this just wrong information.

Thanks.

[doconeill]

There has been a really low level rumor of such a thing, but then again pretty much any resort construction translates into a rumor of a new DVC resort...

The other side of POP ("The Legendary Years") sits unfinished, and rumors are swirling that the situation post-9/11 has improved enough that they may actually complete it. The most credible rumor is that they will finish it off with all rooms being family suites similar to the conversions at the All-Stars.

Everything is a rumor though.

[yensidretlaw]

I read recently that the other half of Pop Century was being considered for the Family Suites like were tested at the All Start Resorts.

[2angelsinheaven]

Hum

[YoHo]

Everything I've heard suggested that the Legendary years would need to be torn down, because it's in such bad shape. It could never be finished. It's infested with wildlife, trash strewn about. It looks like a public housing high-rise. Real magical.

[BigTimeDisneylandFan]

I heard about them doing work on Pop a couple of weeks back here (http://www.disneyworldtrivia.com/article/disney_news/579/breaking_walt_disney_world_rumors/), but it wasn't about them becoming a DVC. A Value DVC? Not a bad idea! Now maybe I can finally get my husband to buy in if the price is right! :)

[thefirebuilds]

Disney made a great move with POP. After years and years of value resort stays they finally weened me off of them with this atrocity. DVC at PC would not be a first choice for me...

[SteveS]

A DVC resort at PC, that is the dumbest idea I have ever heard. As a DVC owner I can't think of any reason to buy into that place. PC has its place but as a DVC resort that isn't one of them. :rotfl2:

[fAnnF]

A DVC resort at PC, that is the dumbest idea I have ever heard. As a DVC owner I can't think of any reason to buy into that place. PC has its place but as a DVC resort that isn't one of them. :rotfl2:

I would buy it. I do parks from open to close everyday I'm there. I'm sure it would take fewer points, and that's the only way I'd buy-in to it. I don't use the pool or other things at the resort, just want a place to lay my head and catch a bus.

[dwelty]

This crazy rumor has been around for some time. DVC markets their resorts as Deluxe resorts. A DVC on Value resort property will never happen.

[landsm99]

Just a bad idea-stayed in POP prior to our DVC checkin on our last trip. We spent the time counting down the hours until our DVC checkin-I don't think a DVC POP would give that 'home away from home' feeling.

[DisFlan]

A DVC resort at PC, that is the dumbest idea I have ever heard. As a DVC owner I can't think of any reason to buy into that place. PC has its place but as a DVC resort that isn't one of them. :rotfl2:

I agree! I can't think of a single reason to buy DVC at POP - aside maybe from a super cheap price. Nope, not even that. And it would dilute the rest of DVC.

DisFlan

[fAnnF]

I agree! I can't think of a single reason to buy DVC at POP - aside maybe from a super cheap price. Nope, not even that. And it would dilute the rest of DVC.

DisFlan

I don't need the amenities. I stay onsite for the perks. I've never used a Disney pool, other then to stick my feet into once, or get an interesting shot of the jukebox. I'd love to call Pop home. I countdown the days until I stay there. Most those who already have DVC wouldn't do Pop, but there are a number of Pop fans. The icons are Disney to me. I look forward to the day they finish the legendary years, and I can stay in the 1910 building. I'll be booking my room for that they day they say it will open.

[YoHo]

I'll be booking my room for that they day they say it will open.


Yeah, I wouldn't put CRO on the speed dial for that.

[barreloflaughs]

PC has its place ......

Yes, it does.

Sadly, it was built at WDW instead....

barrel

[Tink10]

I agree! I can't think of a single reason to buy DVC at POP - aside maybe from a super cheap price. Nope, not even that. And it would dilute the rest of DVC.

DisFlan

ITA.....That would be a horrible mistake. :eek:

DVC's are beautiful, why on earth would they want to ruin that by building at the Pop. I have a feeling that most DVC members would think of it as nothing more than low-income housing.

[mochabean]

Last trip we had a 1-night stay at POP before checking into OKW. As we were leaving POP to checkin at OKW, my wife said, "Never again!"

[paulh]

. Most those who already have DVC wouldn't do Pop, but there are a number of Pop fans. .

were dvc and have stayed at pop many times from the first day it opened to this aug love the resort,would stay in a flash if it was 3 points a night+ 6 at weekend
Paulh

[pouncingpluto]

were dvc and have stayed at pop many times from the first day it opened to this aug love the resort,would stay in a flash if it was 3 points a night+ 6 at weekend
Paulh

Is it just me, or that actually an insult of POP? 3-6 points? Uh, yeah, I'd stay there then, too. And I don't want to stay there.

[paulh]

Is it just me, or that actually an insult of POP? 3-6 points? Uh, yeah, I'd stay there then, too. And I don't want to stay there.

what i think the cash value of points would be (not rental)
Paulh

[ChrisFL]

Most those who already have DVC wouldn't do Pop, but there are a number of Pop fans.

there's a number of Paris Hilton fans too....what does that prove?

[WebmasterCricket]

Assuming the room configurations would be suite based and not motel based like they currently are, I wouldn't have a problem dropping 6-7 points there on a weeknight. Minimum point buy-in would be a big issue though.

[dwelty]

Hey, there is nothing wrong with Pop Century. It is a nice place to stay if you are on a budget. There has been tremendous demand for family suites at the value resorts. I think this is what the plan is for the remainder of Pop.

Whoever started the DVC rumor, has no understanding of how DVC works, and who it's guests are.

[G8RFAN]

Gotta be a joke started by a person who hates DVC and also hates the values. Lot's of them around. IMHO, there is no chance in heck that this has any merit. It is marketing 101. You do not change the perception of your product if it is working and people are buying. It would be product suicide. While I mix stays and I have no problem in staying at a value resort, I am not interested as a DVC member in getting a "value" resort. We have studios for that.

[thefirebuilds]

Hey, there is nothing wrong with Pop Century. It is a nice place to stay if you are on a budget. There has been tremendous demand for family suites at the value resorts. I think this is what the plan is for the remainder of Pop.

Whoever started the DVC rumor, has no understanding of how DVC works, and who it's guests are.

Don't get me wrong, POP is fine if I've got a few kids, and I understand the allure of it. I've just outgrown it. My last trip it provided the greatest amount of frustration of anything. To echo the last few posters, I can't imagine how it would make sense in the DVC Universe, except to the mouse's wallet. Personally if this flourished I would anticipate nicer accomodations but shared facilities, and not to be a snob, but part of buying into DVC is hanging with people who paid to be there, rather than 40 cheerleaders on a budget.

Not winning any friends with this post :p

[thefirebuilds]

I don't need the amenities. I stay onsite for the perks. I've never used a Disney pool, other then to stick my feet into once, or get an interesting shot of the jukebox. I'd love to call Pop home. I countdown the days until I stay there. Most those who already have DVC wouldn't do Pop, but there are a number of Pop fans. The icons are Disney to me. I look forward to the day they finish the legendary years, and I can stay in the 1910 building. I'll be booking my room for that they day they say it will open.


I especially like the display in the lobby of the appleIIc, the atari 2600, floppy disks, nintendos, etc. Reminds me of a Wisconsin Rummage Sale.

[thefirebuilds]

A DVC resort at PC, that is the dumbest idea I have ever heard. As a DVC owner I can't think of any reason to buy into that place. PC has its place but as a DVC resort that isn't one of them. :rotfl2:

It's like Mercedes Benz releasing a car to compete with the Chevy Cobalt, but in this case Disney would be competing against itself

[laceemouse]

DVC at Pop, dumb idea. Family suites....yes!!!

[mickey2000]

I sure hope that they don't do a DVC. I only need a place to rest after a fun day at WDW. No way do I need a "HOME AWAY FROM HOME" , I'm on vacation and not spending my time in a room :rotfl:
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[ChrisFL]

It's like Mercedes Benz releasing a car to compete with the Chevy Cobalt, but in this case Disney would be competing against itself

or its like asking for the VIP section of McDonalds

[humantouch]

A DVC resort at PC, that is the dumbest idea I have ever heard. As a DVC owner I can't think of any reason to buy into that place. PC has its place but as a DVC resort that isn't one of them. :rotfl2:

I agree with Steve, DVC is known for class and better rooms and amenities then even some of the so called 4 star resort rooms. Disney is not having any problems selling DVC (contemporary DVC-need I say more).

I would not buy into that no mater how low the price was.

Rodney H

[NeverEnufWDW]

Heck, while they are at it, why doesn't Disney just make a bunch of crap sequels to beloved classics that go straight to DVD ? Wait....

[Rabbit_Fan]

I agree with Steve, DVC is known for class and better rooms and amenities then even some of the so called 4 star resort rooms. Disney is not having any problems selling DVC (contemporary DVC-need I say more).

I would not buy into that no mater how low the price was.

Rodney H

Though I agree that the decor and room size is 'better' at mods and deluxes, I don't think your inferring that those who stay at Pop have no "class" is very nice :rolleyes: Class is not indicative of money one has or where one chooses to stay. Perhaps I mis-read your intent (which I apologize if I did) but the whole better class of people stuck out to me.

Personally, I don't like the values because they are too loud and I do not like the decor, but I do feel that they are a good value for those who choose to stay there. I don't see them fitting in with DVC based soley on price.

[doconeill]

I also don't understand why there is an assumption that DVC rooms at the Pop would be anything like the current rooms. Can you not have upscale rooms at a fun resort?

I seriously doubt it will happen, but to assume that the rooms would somehow be lower class just because they are at POP is absurd.

I just wish they'd do something with the property. It just sits there, as a spooky reminder of 9/11 - one of the Ghost Towns of Disney.

[thefirebuilds]

Though I agree that the decor and room size is 'better' at mods and deluxes, I don't think your inferring that those who stay at Pop have no "class" is very nice :rolleyes:

He said the hotel rooms were not as classy, and in the sense of the word he is using it correctly. You are reading into this.

[YoHo]

Can you not have upscale rooms at a fun resort?

This makes me cry. Seriously.


I seriously doubt it will happen, but to assume that the rooms would somehow be lower class just because they are at POP is absurd.
It's hardly absurd. How the heck would you market the property as being equivalent to other DVC resorts when the Hotel portion is specifically marketed as being less then other resorts?


I just wish they'd do something with the property. It just sits there, as a spooky reminder of 9/11 - one of the Ghost Towns of Disney.

They could bulldoze it. That would work for me.
I like to think of them as the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow's public housing projects.

[thefirebuilds]

This makes me cry. Seriously.

They could bulldoze it. That would work for me.
I like to think of them as the Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow's public housing projects.

HAH! :thumbsup2

[mickey2000]

I don't believe that Pop will turn into DVC as the people who stay there know better than invest in a room that you don't stay in for long (only to sleep), as your having to much fun at the parks. Gosh, you can't even own it, they will let you pay fees to keep it looking pretty. :rotfl: :lmao:

[YoHo]

they will let you pay fees to keep it looking pretty. :rotfl: :lmao:

There's a waste of money if I've ever heard one.

If you're interested in that, then can I interest you in this fine silk purse?
It's a pork product.

[paulh]

I know better than invest in a room that you don't stay in for long (only to sleep),:
were dvc and we just use room to sleep in
Paulh

[Rabbit_Fan]

He said the hotel rooms were not as classy, and in the sense of the word he is using it correctly. You are reading into this.

Hence my advanced apology if I did take it the wrong way. :)

I do agree fully that the rooms 'as-is' are not appealing (imo anyway) and don't fit with the dvc level of decor and amenities.

What I would like to see is the Legendary Years area leveled and re-done as Legendary Years, but not in the over the top way the rest of Pop is decorated. I think that would be nice to the plans for the Legenday Years come to fruition.

It still doesn't make sense to me that Disney is building elsewhere (including the Contemporary and AKL dvcs) when they leave that part of Pop there unfinished like that.

[manning]

What resort is next door to Pop Century??

[thefirebuilds]

What resort is next door to Pop Century??

I am a little lost here, but I think you are referring to the unfinished buildings hidden in the trees to the side of POP. It's not that easy to see through woods, but when you do it's hard NOT to look at them. It is a real mess.

and thats one of several reasons I wouldn't stay at POP again.

Otherwise the next closest resort is All Star - Sports I think. Home of drunken frat boys and high school cheerleaders being deflowered. *shudder*

[doconeill]

Well, Carribean Beach is sort of next door.

The abandoned buildings are part of Pop Century. The other side of the lake was to be the years 00-40, called the "Legendary Years", but they stopped construction after 9/11 and have not announced a decision on what they will do.

[manning]

I asked what was next door only because you can't see what's next door.

What I was getting at was a DVC could be built next door to Pop Century and after all the landscaping is done neither one would be seen by the other.

[patsal]

Otherwise the next closest resort is All Star - Sports I think. Home of drunken frat boys and high school cheerleaders being deflowered. *shudder*

Which could render a whole new meaning of "studio trash":eek:

[lenshanem]

OK, so if they did a DVC at Pop I'd imagine many people would join if they had a lower buy in price, like what was mentioned on the first page of this thread.

Sooo, they use their points to stay at the other DVC resorts instead of at Pop cause they really only bought Pop cause they were able to buy into DVC at a lower price.

Now, think about the current situation with SSR being so huge and having so many members who bought SSR, but stay at the other DVC resorts. Now if you call after the 7 months out window you're likely to find SSR as your only option.

Now think about a DVC Pop. Imagine calling to find out all that is available is Pop. I personally would be extremely upset. When you buy into DVC you expect deluxe accommodations. Pop is not deluxe, even if they do make studios, one bedrooms and two bedrooms.

And 3 points a night? I think that is extremely generous given some nights at AKV and OKW are 8 points.

I guess it would make a good place to stay for your night of arrival before switching over??? :confused3

[tomerin]

i just returned from a 2 week stay at WDW. while waiting for my son at MGM i decided to strike up a conversation with the DVC salesman. he asked me if i was interested and i told him i was already a member at SSR and he replied he was also.

so i asked him about AKV and the progress in sales at SSR. how much is still available etec. well the conversation was interesting. i remarked to him was that how could you really expect to seel out the inventory at SSR with the now sales push for AKV. i remarked to him that i am sure there are a certain number of rooms that arent sold but still with the sales proceeding with AKV and the "worlds worst kept secret" the building at the Contemporary, dont you think that DVC is shooting themselves in the foot by offereng too many options. he looked at me and smiled when i mentioned the contemporary and i told him that if he looked on the Dis he could possibly even find the plans for the building and that an artists conception of how the building is going to look like and how the construction progress is also going.

i told him i am sure he isnt allowed to answer me and his asnwer of thank you for understanding was taken by me to mean that i was right.

i know this is a round about was of getting to my point. at no time was there ever any mention of a dvc resort being built at POP. although he did ask me if i am a golfer. so maybe that is where the next dvc resort will be by one of the courses. i wantedto ask more of him but he did have a potential customer so i thanked him and left him to his business

[bnlbebes]

DVC at Pop, dumb idea. Family suites....yes!!!


As a weekend stop-over to save some of my DVC points I might go to POP if they opened as family suites.

My last one night stay at All Star Movies included the smell of marijuana wafting through the building in which I was staying. I would never choose to stay in a value again unless it was truly necessary.

Disney would be foolish to open at POP, and I thnk that whoever started this rumor was probably the source of the smoke that I smelled at The All Star!

[fAnnF]

Disney would be foolish to open at POP, and I thnk that whoever started this rumor was probably the source of the smoke that I smelled at The All Star!

I'm sorry you feel the need to bash me like that, you're probably one of the DVC members who thinks they are better then myself and others who aren't DVC members. At this point Disney has lost me as a potential buyer.


I could afford to stay at a deluxe resort, but choose to visit 5-7 times a year and stay at values because I spend all my time in the parks.

I'm staying at Boardwalk Villas for 1 night in August (gift from a friend) and a week with my friend (who is a DVC owner there) in November. I'll get to "experience" a DVC resort, and I know on my 1 night in August I'm just there to sleep, I'll be in the parks as soon as I check in until 1am, and then from 8am-until DME pick up. My trip in November will most likely be the same. I don't go to Disney to hang out at the pool, I go for the parks, the atmosphere, and the food.

As for points, Disney would probably charge the same for them, but would allow you to buy fewer, as you would need fewer a night.

I was just posting what I had heard from several cast members

Now feel free to flame me some more if you feel I'm that bad of a Disney guest.

[bnlbebes]

I'm sorry you feel the need to bash me like that...

I was just posting what I had heard from several cast members



Sorry for the misunderstanding... :guilty:

When I was referring to the one who started the rumor, I meant whomever you may had heard it from, not, you, the OP (original poster). The idea seems highly unlikely, and I was just trying to make light of the drug situation that I had encountered while at the value resorts.

[javamom]

We stayed (just the 2 of us PV, not the whole family) at the Pop in the Fall of '06 and liked it.

I doubt that they would make DVC here. If they did, it would be safe to assume that it would be drastically different than the other side in terms of ammenties and space... otherwise you would see the DVC values tank and Disney definately wants to protect that money maker.

[mickey2000]

It could be $100 and I still wouldn't buy DVC.
I have stayed in all the resorts during the past 14 years a total of 232 days!
Yes I'm a Disney nut. I have been to Hilton Head, Vero Beach and would consider a nicer room there ok as you spend more time in the room.
As for WDW IMO I consider the DVC a waste of my money. Like I said before I have already experienced the Deluxe resorts including Old Key West.
I'm at a point now that I also don't spend enought time in my room to justify the extra dolllars or the purchase of a room that I don't own.
1. I can't and won't pay maintaince fees for the rest of my life.
2. Don't need a kitchen I'm not cooking when on vacation.
3. Don't need a washer and dryer . I take enogh clothes for 2 weeks.
I'm not on vacation to do a wash.
4. I only need a clean cheap room to sleep in no frills. I'll spend my extra dollars on fun things and restaurants
I enjoy the POP as long as they keep it up.
$16,000 ,not including maintaince will at current prices buy me 160 nights at the POP. I'm happy!
Gosh, last time I stayed at the Beach Club my matress had a piece of plywood under it, as it was so old.:eek:

[NeverEnufWDW]

Gosh, last time I stayed at the Beach Club my matress had a piece of plywood under it, as it was so old.:eek:

Ummm....since the Beach Club is not the same as DVC at the Beach Club...that comment proves how totally clueless you are. Just go away.

[EUROPACL]

Gosh, last time I stayed at the Beach Club my matress had a piece of plywood under it, as it was so old.

[Ummm....since the Beach Club is not the same as DVC at the Beach Club...that comment proves how totally clueless you are. Just go away.


Yeah don't you know for 16,000 you get a boxspring. :lmao: :rotfl2: :rolleyes1

[donaldduck1967]

i just returned from a 2 week stay at WDW. while waiting for my son at MGM i decided to strike up a conversation with the DVC salesman. he asked me if i was interested and i told him i was already a member at SSR and he replied he was also.

so i asked him about AKV and the progress in sales at SSR. how much is still available etec. well the conversation was interesting. i remarked to him was that how could you really expect to seel out the inventory at SSR with the now sales push for AKV. i remarked to him that i am sure there are a certain number of rooms that arent sold but still with the sales proceeding with AKV and the "worlds worst kept secret" the building at the Contemporary, dont you think that DVC is shooting themselves in the foot by offereng too many options. he looked at me and smiled when i mentioned the contemporary and i told him that if he looked on the Dis he could possibly even find the plans for the building and that an artists conception of how the building is going to look like and how the construction progress is also going.

i told him i am sure he isnt allowed to answer me and his asnwer of thank you for understanding was taken by me to mean that i was right.

i know this is a round about was of getting to my point. at no time was there ever any mention of a dvc resort being built at POP. although he did ask me if i am a golfer. so maybe that is where the next dvc resort will be by one of the courses. i wantedto ask more of him but he did have a potential customer so i thanked him and left him to his business

They already have 2 DVC Resorts by a Golf Course, SSR and OKW.

[mickey2000]

Gosh, last time I stayed at the Beach Club my matress had a piece of plywood under it, as it was so old.:eek:

Ummm....since the Beach Club is not the same as DVC at the Beach Club...that comment proves how totally clueless you are. Just go away.
This was before the DVC at the Beach Club.....
I never said that it was DVC !!!!:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[Goofymommaof2]

As a DVC Dreamer I would LOVE to see a lower cost DVC at Pop.

[Disney Doll]

My guess is that since they are trying the Family Suites at the All-Stars that maybe they will make those 2 buildings all Family Suites. They seem to be making a pretty big hit at the All Stars.

[fAnnF]

My guess is that since they are trying the Family Suites at the All-Stars that maybe they will make those 2 buildings all Family Suites. They seem to be making a pretty big hit at the All Stars.

They are tearing down the 2 building and the main hall, as building codes have changed so much, that it's cheaper for them to just start all over then to retrofit them with the upgrades.

[Disney Doll]

They are tearing down the 2 building and the main hall, as building codes have changed so much, that it's cheaper for them to just start all over then to retrofit them with the upgrades.

That actually makes sense. They have been sitting vacant for so long that the inside of the buildings are probably gross anyhow.

I do think the value priced family Suites thing is a good idea though.

[CanadianGuy]

The nearest resort as the crow flies to Pop Century, is Caribbean Beach. It's literally just behind the trees that line the driveway into Pop Century. All Star anything is some distance away.. actually in a different county!

As for tearing down the buildings.. I wouldn't be surprised if they could keep the Main Hall building. It's well closed up and has been used as a staging area for housekeeping and grounds maintenance. So that building is not exactly empty and unused.

The two pods of actual 'rooms' buildings probably will have to be torn down, but in the grand scheme of things, that's hardly a large cost. They are pretty much entirely empty and unfinished inside. One of the two pods doesn't even have the central stairwells or elevator building built.

On the other hand.. I am not sure that building codes have changed that much since 2001 or 2002. The buildings themselves - I have had a very upclose look (ahem) are in good shape and while some of the rooms would have to be sandblasted, it's just concrete, they could be sandblasted and cleaned before further construction continued.

I did not see any structural integrity problems, obvious cracks or similar, but then of course, I'm not a structural engineer either.

Knox