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Jeffcat
06-21-2007, 04:24 PM
A Dis Member held in high regard and who has been helped favorably by Hosts when it came to his being scammed came into my offer room today, saying A leader under his guest character would enter my room and trade stitch for my offer. The character Who i still have the Guest Number for came in and stole my stuff.

I'm truly appalled at the behavior of this Person who had the boards completely in his defense when the person was scammed and now has decided to scam themself.

This is an outrage! I will contact Mal, Lori, and Aengus with this person's title and I will see that justice be done.

bopper
06-21-2007, 04:28 PM
How can anybody steal your stuff?

Did you have them give the stitch to at least a community leader to hold until you got all the items in trade, and then the leader could give the stitch to you? If you are trusting somebody with a Guest name to give you stuff after you click OK on the trade, then that is not a good plan.

Jeffcat
06-21-2007, 04:30 PM
It was the title of the character who intiated the talks which Led me to believe it was safe. I had respect for this person, and now it is completely shredded away.

threeboysmom
06-21-2007, 04:33 PM
I know EXACTLY who you're talking about based on your post, and I too am outraged. How DARE he scam people after he himself was scammed.

I hope *this person* never shows his face here again on the DIS boards. SHAME ON YOU!!

aengus
06-21-2007, 04:36 PM
To say I am a bit upset would be an understatement! Jeffcat, make your report to vmk VERY detailed. Everything you can think of, and most importantly time and place so they can review the logs.

Bugdozer
06-21-2007, 04:38 PM
Hi,

I am sitting here shaking my head in disbelief. Nobody seems to care anymore about being trustworthy having character. It is so sad what VMK and the world has come to ! It is all me me me what a shame. I hope this is read by Lily Yavn and whom ever necessary and this person is banned for life. The STEALING on VMK needs to stop. If it keeps up maybe there should be no more trading or there should be no such thing as rare. Sell everything-stitch, sparrow, inferno so on...

Bug

Dizpinfriend
06-21-2007, 04:38 PM
Jeff - I hope VMK shows you the same swift action with your scam that they showed this other "player" when he was supposedly scammed...

But something tells me with his actions today that it may have been the staff who was scammed in that instance...

Sorry he got your stitch hat offer - I hope he gets what is coming to him... Piece of garbage!!

:confused:

I do not understand why these boards protect people like him - I think we shoud scream his name for everyone to hear!!

Roller Coaster Gal
06-21-2007, 04:44 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG! Please if you can pm me the name of the person even though i have a idea of who it is please pm me if you can and hope that some serious action is taken. i am so sorry for you and hope this person never shows his/her face here again!

Pirate Me
06-21-2007, 04:45 PM
To say I am a bit upset would be an understatement! Jeffcat, make your report to vmk VERY detailed. Everything you can think of, and most importantly time and place so they can review the logs.

::yes:: Did you take a screenie?

threeboysmom
06-21-2007, 04:45 PM
I do not understand why these boards protect people like him - I think we shoud scream his name for everyone to hear!!

I totally agree! I am so biting my tongue right now wanting to shout out this ugly person's name...

He deserves to have this board and all its members know exactly how LOW OF A CREEP he is, and I hope he hangs in head in shame. I am SO angry right now.

PurpleDucky
06-21-2007, 04:47 PM
Oh my goodness. I am soooooo sorry. If there's anything I can do to help, please let me know

IliketheTitanic
06-21-2007, 04:50 PM
nvm i know who it is now...... thats really to bad.....

- IliketheTitanic

Master Gracy
06-21-2007, 04:51 PM
I am appalled,
I hope that users computer is grinded into dust
I hope he never shows his head on this board again ever

VMK_KrazyLuke
06-21-2007, 04:54 PM
Wow.. Thats the lowest of the low that I've probably heard about happening. It's very pathetic also. I hope he gets the punishment he deserves and doesn't show his face. He is now unwanted.

Jeffcat
06-21-2007, 04:56 PM
First off I did not take a screenie. My fault entirely. However, I can list off exactly which items were taken from me.

I would love to see this person rise above this savage behavior and be the better man for it.

My hands are Shaking with Anger right now.

This isn't about the items right now, for my friends and providing fun to people in the form of my Rongo room or any other room I build. This is a matter of principle.

pinkgalYall
06-21-2007, 04:58 PM
I'm sooo sorry this happened. Those are the kinds of people that don't deserve too even be on vmk. I hope serious action is taken against the "person".

JeffCat if you want to send me a Pm of some items that were taken I'll try and help get some back.

amazingsuperpixie
06-21-2007, 04:58 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG! Please if you can pm me the name of the person even though i have a idea of who it is please pm me if you can and hope that some serious action is taken. i am so sorry for you and hope this person never shows his/her face here again!

If you could PM me too, I think I have an idea but I just want to be sure. If I am I always thought this person was a pile of poo poo, and now this makes me think of things even worse than that!

P.S. I also would like to help out if at all possible on some of the items that you have lost :( just let me know!

Dizpinfriend
06-21-2007, 04:59 PM
I totally agree! I am so biting my tongue right now wanting to shout out this ugly person's name...

He deserves to have this board and all its members know exactly how LOW OF A CREEP he is, and I hope he hangs in head in shame. I am SO angry right now.

Pink - I know we all want to scream out his name but we need to rise above such behavior!!!

PurpleDucky
06-21-2007, 05:07 PM
cough cough...

pinkgalYall
06-21-2007, 05:09 PM
cough...

Pirate Me
06-21-2007, 05:11 PM
:sad2: I'm so sorry! I hope that this Dis member has the heart to give your stuff back!

Roller Coaster Gal
06-21-2007, 05:13 PM
cough cough

astrostan
06-21-2007, 05:14 PM
I am shocked at this behavior. I cant believe this little low life did this!!!!!!!! I am so so so sorry that this happened to you

PurpleDucky
06-21-2007, 05:14 PM
We must all have horrible colds..

astrostan
06-21-2007, 05:15 PM
Cough!

IliketheTitanic
06-21-2007, 05:15 PM
I had a small chat with this person, he said it was not him, he said it was someone else and he thought it was " funny " that everyone " thought " it was him.........

Dizpinfriend
06-21-2007, 05:17 PM
It's Bull!!

Jeff and I were actually speaking on a voice chat program as this was all happening...

He was telling me things as they happened... I am sure we will hear a big sad sob story from this one about how he is being picked on...

He needs to have all his riches (that probably came to him by the way of scams) stripped and then have the computer on which he plays banned...

PurpleDucky
06-21-2007, 05:19 PM
Bull!!

Total bull..

Roller Coaster Gal
06-21-2007, 05:19 PM
i am shaking with rage i too spoke with him and he said the same thing! the little creap filthy rotten loser!

steamboatpete
06-21-2007, 05:20 PM
Why do people calling it spamming?

Dizpinfriend
06-21-2007, 05:21 PM
it comes from not being able to say "scam" within VMK - which I think is ridiculous...

PopStar
06-21-2007, 05:21 PM
OMG! This makes me want to...ERRRRR!!!!:badpc: :badpc: :mad: :mad:

All i can say is..HOW DARE HE!!!!!

After what he "supposedly" had gone through, how could he be so disgusting as to do so himself?

And i agree with pixie, that i never really did like him before, or a big poo poo. He thought he was the best, showing off like that...well look here pal! we're all equal on these boards! AND WE DON'T SCAM. WE HAVE RESPECT FOR EACHOTHER.

HOW DARE YOU! ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!:snooty: :sad2:

Pirate Me
06-21-2007, 05:22 PM
We must all have horrible colds..

:rotfl2: COUGH

poohluv2u
06-21-2007, 05:23 PM
A leader under his guest character would enter my room and trade stitch for my offer. The character Who i still have the Guest Number for came in and stole my stuff.

What is a leader under a guest character? Of course he will say he was not the guest! Only VMK will know if the guest came from his computer.

So sorry this happened, we would all like to think we can trust a Dismember :sad1:

Dizpinfriend
06-21-2007, 05:23 PM
It's an epidemic... Passes out cough drops...

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w205/dizpinfriend/ludens.jpg

aengus
06-21-2007, 05:25 PM
Before any editing is done I want to at least put out there why there is such a rule as not being allowed to implicate someone by name publically. Because sometimes its the scammer who falsely accuses someone.

We weren't there to see this first hand. I am sure my position was clear on who I believed, but we cant as a rule assume the first person is right in every case.

I am truly sorry also that this happened and I also hope justice is swift in this case!!!!

Now dont be offended as I go back and edit a couple of posts please. Oh and most importantly there are no rules preventing PM'ing a players name to anyone who requests it.

I hope VMK doesnt mind making one more exception to the scam rule!!!!!!!!!! I belive in this case nobody would complain a bit!

Roller Coaster Gal
06-21-2007, 05:25 PM
Passes out cough drops...

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w205/dizpinfriend/ludens.jpg

thank you those did help a lot.

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-21-2007, 05:26 PM
How Dare they. SHAME ON YOU Just like pink!

I cant believe them. Now that i know who.. After all the hosts have done!

My friend got scammed too, by a VMK player. Im not mentioning names. But Everything on his account was gone!


And he never gave out personal info.

the Hacker found his password and GONE.

Bee2u
06-21-2007, 05:45 PM
I had a small chat with this person, he said it was not him, he said it was someone else and he thought it was " funny " that everyone " thought " it was him.........

There's no way an innocent person would find it 'funny' to be accused of scamming, especially scamming a friend. An innocent person would be appalled at the accusation and at the scamming, and would be here trying to help get things back, perhaps the way he got his own items back.

Jeffcat, I am so sorry your trust was violated (I know that's the worst).

aPiratesLife4Me
06-21-2007, 05:47 PM
I'm sorry to hear this happened to you. I hate to hear of it happening to anyone! And you've been so generous in your Rongo room & make everyone feel included when they are in there....sorry someone felt the need to take advantage of your generosity. Just another reason I and my kids are so wary of some of the stuff that goes on in the game. BUT we have encountered some GREAT people from this site and others in the game that make it worth playing. Being new, I am clueless who it is, but will be extra cautious!!!

Laurabearz
06-21-2007, 05:50 PM
Most people seem really really nice until they bite you in the ...........

Disney Dreams
06-21-2007, 05:53 PM
The character Who i still have the Guest Number for came in and stole my stuff.


How exactly did they steal your stuff? I do not understand. Did they sign into your account somehow?

BriarRosie
06-21-2007, 06:00 PM
I would be very suspicious hearing the words, "a leader under his Guest
character". If it's not the CL itself, my BS warning bells would have gone
off like crazy!

And I know exactly who you're talking about based on your description.
After what happened to this player, being the victim of a scam, you'd think
the player would have the decency NOT to poop in the sandbox of players
who had some respect for him.

I hope you can pinpoint the time/date for chat and trade logs.

Maleficent2
06-21-2007, 06:01 PM
What is a leader under a guest character? Of course he will say he was not the guest! Only VMK will know if the guest came from his computer.

So sorry this happened, we would all like to think we can trust a Dismember :sad1:

Which is exactly right. They can trace the ip back to his computer and then ban that computer.

:sad2: I had heard thru the grapevine that this person was being accused of scamming.

I wish you had some screens or maybe chat logs or PMs.

If you do please forward them to the moderators.- Thank you

IliketheTitanic
06-21-2007, 06:08 PM
A Dis Member held in high regard and who has been helped favorably by Hosts when it came to his being scammed came into my offer room today, saying A leader under his guest character would enter my room and trade stitch for my offer. The character Who i still have the Guest Number for came in and stole my stuff.

I'm truly appalled at the behavior of this Person who had the boards completely in his defense when the person was scammed and now has decided to scam themself.

This is an outrage! I will contact Mal, Lori, and Aengus with this person's title and I will see that justice be done.

I had a small chat with this person, he said it was not him, he said it was someone else and he thought it was " funny " that everyone " thought " it was him.........

and even if it wasn't him, he still took part and helped the scammer.

aengus
06-21-2007, 06:10 PM
exactly this is a 2 person scam. If someone thinks they are not just as guilty for setting someone up, as the person who took the stuff they are sadly mistaken!

Maleficent2
06-21-2007, 06:11 PM
How exactly did they steal your stuff? I do not understand. Did they sign into your account somehow?


I believe he had the guest come into the room then he traded his items to the guest and the guest did not give him "Stitch"

Goofy05
06-21-2007, 06:15 PM
And I'm sure he will grown into a fine adult. Can anyone say, "Enron"?
It's for this reason I rarely trade with anyone anymore. I don't trust easily, as this person is not the first scammer to have made the Dis their home for trades.
As far as him stating that a guest was actually a CL playing on another account...never believe that! If that person were truly a CL, then he/she should have been there AS a CL. Not that it would necessarily stop any possible scam...
I do hope there is something done about all of these scams, SOON!

Roller Coaster Gal
06-21-2007, 06:20 PM
And I'm sure he will grown into a fine adult. Can anyone say, "Enron"?


:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2: :lmao: :lmao: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Jeffcat
06-21-2007, 06:33 PM
The worst thing, the very worst thing, was that I actually had the items worth a stitch hat. I've been trying since the first VMK christmas to get enough items to make that trade, and a year and a half of work goes up in smoke.
Congratulations buddy, You just ruined A Disney Dream. I sure hope you feel happy with yourself.

lisuhut
06-21-2007, 06:41 PM
firstly i am so sorry for you, this so called GAME is getting real mean, well some people in it,as for the person[i think i got who],,why if he is innocent and people have asked him about it,as he not been on these boards and said so, if he knows what people are saying why has he not cleared his name, prehaps because he can not!!! shame on you ,shame shame shame

DisIvyCo
06-21-2007, 06:42 PM
This makes me so mad! i cant believe he did that. I'm so so sorry! it is not fair not fair at all! ((((((HUGS))))))

rickyratsmom
06-21-2007, 06:47 PM
I am so sorry to hear about this! I too was a victim of a 2 person scam, brother and sister act in my case! Anyhow in my case VMK caught up to them. All of their items were stripped and they were banned. However nothing was returned to me either. It was still gratifying that justice was served and they lost what they stole and cannot play anymore. Would you mind PMing me this low life's name as I would like to steer clear of the jerk! Again sorry about your stuff. Perhaps some of us could help out if we have something to spare?

bopper
06-21-2007, 06:52 PM
And I'm sure he will grown into a fine adult. Can anyone say, "Enron"?

I do hope there is something done about all of these scams, SOON!


I went to High School with Andy Fastow of Enron fame!

There is something to do about all these scams! Nobody can "steal" your stuff without your participation.

1) Only do trades that can be completed in one transaction.
2) Do not lend anything to anybody that you would be sad to lose.
3) Take your time and confirm each time all the items in the trade.

Jeffcat
06-21-2007, 06:53 PM
While I will still hunt down the person responsible, Some Sunny Rays On my Cloudy Day.

Aengus (temporarily) has loaned me his Stitch Hat until the Matter is resolved.

LAVA BOY!! YOU ROCK!!

PS: Now that I have worn of the initial shock of such gratitude..
This is what Disney and VMK should be about. Generosity to fellow man, The providing of dreams, and believing that magic is possible.

I'm still hunting for those who attempt to ruin that magic for others.
Call Me... The Scammer Hunter

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-21-2007, 07:09 PM
While I will still hunt down the person responsible, Some Sunny Rays On my Cloudy Day.

Aengus (temporarily) has loaned me his Stitch Hat until the Matter is resolved.

LAVA BOY!! YOU ROCK!!

PS: Now that I have worn of the initial shock of such gratitude..
This is what Disney and VMK should be about. Generosity to fellow man, The providing of dreams, and believing that magic is possible.

I'm still hunting for those who attempt to ruin that magic for others.
Call Me... The Scammer Hunter

that is Awesome of Aengus!

See, it all turns out good in the end.

And im SURE if VMK does its job right, staff will come running to you with your stuff ;) :thumbsup2

Good luck!

Mike~SeaDiverMike

Roller Coaster Gal
06-21-2007, 07:13 PM
While I will still hunt down the person responsible, Some Sunny Rays On my Cloudy Day.

Aengus (temporarily) has loaned me his Stitch Hat until the Matter is resolved.

LAVA BOY!! YOU ROCK!!

PS: Now that I have worn of the initial shock of such gratitude..
This is what Disney and VMK should be about. Generosity to fellow man, The providing of dreams, and believing that magic is possible.

I'm still hunting for those who attempt to ruin that magic for others.
Call Me... The Scammer Hunter

Lava Boy is really truely wootastic woot lava boy, you rock!

valeriesunshine
06-21-2007, 07:16 PM
I'm so so sorry this has happened to you . I can't believe someone would do that SHAME ON THEM!:sad2:

Maleficent2
06-21-2007, 07:20 PM
I went to High School with Andy Fastow of Enron fame!

There is something to do about all these scams! Nobody can "steal" your stuff without your participation.

1) Only do trades that can be completed in one transaction.
2) Do not lend anything to anybody that you would be sad to lose.
3) Take your time and confirm each time all the items in the trade.

Yes that would be great if the value of some items was not more than one trade window will allow.

I gift a lot my personal stuff and items that other DISers give me to give out to fellow DIS members...I have loaned numerous things the two years I have been playing and so far the lost of my inferno was the only thing that was never returned.

As a moderator I feel I should be able to trust most all of our members and unless members report other members when they are scammed we have no way of knowing who is scamming on the DIS.

I want to believe that all DIS members are good, honest and trustworthy players...I wear rose colored glasses most of the time.

Aengus you rock!:hug:

macntosh
06-21-2007, 07:27 PM
So will someone share with me the name of this insect. I would like to know the bug before they get squashed. But like most children today were are the parents to teach them any sort of values?

SkippyPaul
06-21-2007, 07:29 PM
What a pathetic person he is. This "person" was on my friends list but after the ordeal with the flips I deleted him. I was approached by not one but 2 vmk players that were scammed by him on vmk and furious! Unfortunately I believe I deleted the screen shot of this conversation and also the conversation I had with me telling him what is happening to his reputation. Naturally he had excuses.

I just wonder how staff feels now after they awarded this con with his own special gift.

As they say, and the rich get richer......unfortunately its at the cost of innocent ppl.

Time to stop making excuses for ppl like him.

jeffgwins
06-21-2007, 07:35 PM
All I can say is Wow! Unbelievable that someone on the Dis would think they could get away with this. I am so sorry Jeffcat that you lost your things in this trade. I remember how i was shaking when i traded for my sparrow. I remeber thinking i could lose all of this stuff if the person holding sparrow was to just vanish. My trade worked out but i can only imagine how it must have felt when that person vanished and you lost your things.

And Aengus: YOU ROCK LAVA BOY!!!

SorcererDonald16
06-21-2007, 07:40 PM
Based on what y'all said, I'm fairly positive I know who this is. How shameful and despicable. :sad2: After his own supposed being-scammed incident, you'd think he'd have some level of a conscience not to do it to anyone else. But then again, why am I ever surprised anymore. I had my suspicions about this person for awhile now, and I'm so sad anyone had to suffer from his lapparent lack of values. :sad2:

I sincerely wish VMK would just put Inferno, flips, Stitch, ALL of it on sale for a good chunk of credits so some of this madness would stop. A game about Disney magic is increasingly set up to inherently promote greed, envy, and jealousy. Said player is a great example of that, apparently. :mad:

rosesredrosered
06-21-2007, 07:47 PM
I know exactly who you are talking about, and I am afraid that I have lost all respect for him. As many others have said, he should have learned something from his experience. I have been scammed before, but for nothing like a Stitch hat....

Well, I hope you learn your lesson scammer.

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-21-2007, 07:55 PM
Its kinda Weird, like a coincidence in the start, when he got his ' stuff ' back.

Me and my friend who play VMK at school, we like HATED him.

After he got back his ' stuff '.

We were like, well, why didn't Mal get her inferno back after that?

Its pretty unfair.

And if i see him ever around VMK anymore, ( if he's brave enough ) :rolleyes:

He will get a piece of my mind ;)

SweetJaydGrl
06-21-2007, 08:10 PM
Well I'm pretty sure I know who it is, cause Rob and I have always had our suspicions about this person. I know there are several other ppl that claim they were cheated out of their inferno and stitch by this person, he use to be on my friend list so everytime I heard these claims I'd give him an ear full but of course it was always him who was the one scammed. And I know this person claims to have Host lily on his friend list. I don't get how this is being over looked by staff. Hopefully they will see this post and the messages you've sent them and look further into it. Sorry this has happen to you :hug:

macntosh
06-21-2007, 08:12 PM
Well thanks for the info and after reading all his posts that really does make one's anger level rise!

disvaclub92
06-21-2007, 08:13 PM
And I'm sure he will grown into a fine adult. Can anyone say, "Enron"?


Exactly - I bet this kids parents would be so proud - what a big time loser. Dude what comes around goes around and I hope you get it "wickedly." You think you got the one up on someone in a game, guess what you will fail in real life. Always bites you in the rear.

Interesting - I have noticed that some loud mouths in the past have not posted. Cough* We know who you are and you are a loser. You will get yours.

SkippyPaul
06-21-2007, 08:18 PM
Well I'm pretty sure I know who it is, cause Rob and I have always had our suspicions about this person. I know there are several other ppl that claim they were cheated out of their inferno and stitch by this person, he use to be on my friend list so everytime I heard these claims I'd give him an ear full but of course it was always him who was the one scammed. And I know this person claims to have Host lily on his friend list. I don't get how this is being over looked by staff. Hopefully they will see this post and the messages you've sent them and look further into it. Sorry this has happen to you :hug:

Exactly. No one goes from having nothing and a month later brags about how much stitch, sparrow and inferno he has.

But if you think about who is to blame? The players dont make things rare, vmk does. Greed drives ppl. I think they should release everything and stop this trading frenzie. Because if you think he is the only one, your very wrong.
Stop the rare..........stop the host and staff favorites vmk. Enough is enough.

IliketheTitanic
06-21-2007, 08:19 PM
While I will still hunt down the person responsible, Some Sunny Rays On my Cloudy Day.

Aengus (temporarily) has loaned me his Stitch Hat until the Matter is resolved.

LAVA BOY!! YOU ROCK!!



Aengus, you are a very kind person, thanks for everything you do.
- IliketheTitanic : D

cat_herder
06-21-2007, 08:22 PM
Could you let me know who this person is?

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-21-2007, 08:25 PM
omg Get This, The Person Who Scammed You Teamed Up With This Other Kid That Scammed My Friend! But.. The Person Who Scammed My Friend Is Now Banned! my Day Has Gotten Better! :D

Worst Nightmare.. VMK_Sunny or whomever said they were banned. But he is BACK! @_@

sleepingbeautymama
06-21-2007, 08:27 PM
I am so sorry this happened to you. It's so sad that there are so many dishonest people in the game and in real life. If anyone could let me in on who this is, I'd appreciate it. So far I have only come across great DISers when I've traded. It's too bad there is one bad apple in the group but I feel that most of us are good honest players.

amazingsuperpixie
06-21-2007, 08:32 PM
If this boy gets banned - i think VMK should gift his stuff out that he has. That kid has about five stitch hats, that I'm sure five honest VMK players would love. Aengus you are a true gem like many of the good honest people on this board I have come to truely look up to and admire.

chexie
06-21-2007, 08:34 PM
Exactly. No one goes from having nothing and a month later brags about how much stitch, sparrow and inferno he has.

But if you think about who is to blame? The players dont make things rare, vmk does. Greed drives ppl. I think they should release everything and stop this trading frenzie. Because if you think he is the only one, your very wrong.
Stop the rare..........stop the host and staff favorites vmk. Enough is enough.

thank you i agree entirely with what you just said
if they got rid of the whole trading frenzie we wouldnt have this problem to begin with

Disney Dreams
06-21-2007, 08:37 PM
I believe he had the guest come into the room then he traded his items to the guest and the guest did not give him "Stitch"

I guess I am just plain dense today.

You have to hit accept multiple times for a trade to go through. How people get things stolen from them, I just am completely missing.

Was it a 2 window trade? That's the only thing I can figure out.

I am asking so that others can learn what happened and not have it happen to them.

sharkm
06-21-2007, 08:42 PM
But if you think about who is to blame? The players dont make things rare, vmk does. Greed drives ppl. I think they should release everything and stop this trading frenzie. Because if you think he is the only one, your very wrong.
Stop the rare..........stop the host and staff favorites vmk. Enough is enough.

I so agree with this. I only have a few rare items and of course I would like Inferno but, I always felt that at some point I would work my way up to getting it. But I have this habit of giving things away, :rolleyes1 I get such a kick out of it. I sincerely hope VMK does something about this trend that is starting to happen more often.

aliceblue
06-21-2007, 08:48 PM
There is something to do about all these scams! Nobody can "steal" your stuff without your participation.

1) Only do trades that can be completed in one transaction.
2) Do not lend anything to anybody that you would be sad to lose.
3) Take your time and confirm each time all the items in the trade.Very good advice, especially number 1. People take multiple-window trades way too much for granted.

And don't ever assume that somebody you don't know is safe to trust with this kind of trade, even if they actually do have "CL" in front of their name.Yes that would be great if the value of some items was not more than one trade window will allow.I have to say we have only ourselves to thank for that. If we had all scoffed at the idea of "mega trades" way back in the beginning, and refused to trade everything we own for one item, then trading values might not be so out of control now.I sincerely wish VMK would just put Inferno, flips, Stitch, ALL of it on sale for a good chunk of credits so some of this madness would stop. A game about Disney magic is increasingly set up to inherently promote greed, envy, and jealousy.I agree. Buyable items (even when they are expensive like bat magic) don't seem to draw as many problems.

As much as I don't like the "exclusive" aspect of VMK's economy, they cannot be completely to blame. Unfortunately, as long as players are willing to part with bucket loads of their items to get something rare, this is going to keep happening.I guess I am just plain dense today.

You have to hit accept multiple times for a trade to go through. How people get things stolen from them, I just am completely missing.

Was it a 2 window trade? That's the only thing I can figure out.

I am asking so that others can learn what happened and not have it happen to them.Yes, it was more than one window full. In cases like this, the trader of the single "valuable" item usually isn't willing to put it in the first trade window, in case the other person runs off with it without giving them the rest of their items. But that in turn makes it possible for them to disappear before the final trade window, without handing the rare item over.

People are in the habit of calling this "stealing", especially since we can't say "scam" in VMK.

disvaclub92
06-21-2007, 08:50 PM
I guess I am just plain dense today.

You have to hit accept multiple times for a trade to go through. How people get things stolen from them, I just am completely missing.

Was it a 2 window trade? That's the only thing I can figure out.

I am asking so that others can learn what happened and not have it happen to them.

The brat performed the trade as a guest with the OP. Then left the room and traded the hat to his account. Therefore the "guest" has no hat. Reporting the guest is futile, because no hat in inventory. Therefore cannot be caught - even though VMK should be able to identify the IP of the Guest account and the Thief to confirm it is the same person or household. In addition, they should be able to identify trade logs of the guest and to whom they traded from and to. Just my two cents.

Matty D
06-21-2007, 08:55 PM
I don't even believe the alleged scamming incident that had arisen a couple of weeks ago even happened. I had two brief conversations with the Hosts depicted in the DIS member's post that either said or implied that no scam or assistance from staff took place. Here's a snapshot from Tuesday of Lily's signature regarding the matter:

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb311/uscmatty/pic.jpg

hdmonkeybug
06-21-2007, 09:00 PM
I guess I am just plain dense today.

You have to hit accept multiple times for a trade to go through. How people get things stolen from them, I just am completely missing.

Was it a 2 window trade? That's the only thing I can figure out.

I am asking so that others can learn what happened and not have it happen to them.

I believe what they are saying happened is that this person came in to do the trade and they were supposed to be using a CL, but the CL was using a guest account. The CL was going to come in and do the trade as a guest. So the guest was the 'go-between' that was supposed to be a CL helping to "watch over" the trade. Probaby was supposed to 'hold' the items, to be checked by the person who was actually doing the trade, and then give Jeffcat the stich hat after all was confirmed. But the guest was not a CL and did not trade them the hat. Is this correct?

SorcererDonald16
06-21-2007, 09:04 PM
You mean it was all PhotoShopped? Or that the shots were somehow taken out of context? Oh for Pete's Sake, this is more pathetic than I suspected. :headache: Either way, my blood pressure's going up more by the minute. :mad:

Really boy, GROW UP! Use the conscience you were born with and stop pulling stunts like this. I don't know if your MO is to impress people with all of your "wealth", but if it is, gee, how well has THAT worked out for you? You've got a board full of people who now don't trust you and wouldn't want to be your friend in game or in real life because of that lack of trust and the fact that you're cheating people out of hard earned things that are THEIRS. Not yours, theirs. So what have you accomplished, really? Sure, you have rare things, but they're things that don't even really exist! What about integrity? What about respect for others and yourself? I pray that you find the meaning of those things and right your wrongs. All the things, money, or fame in life is worth NOTHING without integrity. :sad2:

MicMin
06-21-2007, 09:11 PM
Sorry to hear that you were scammed like that. I hope that you will get your items returned.

Disney Dreams
06-21-2007, 09:24 PM
Yes, it was more than one window full.

Thanks. That's the part that was not clear (to me anyway). And I think needed to be stated for ppl to follow what happened.

It's the major problem with ever doing a trade that is more than 1 window.

If you HAVE to do so, ONLY with someone both parties 100% trusts.

It's a sad sad sad statement when it can be seen what ppl will do to acquire pixels.

And all I would say about "who" is to caution ppl not to assume anything until they know themselves for a fact.

I am just "done" reading about players suckering others out of stuff. It's a game people. And it's fake stuff at that. Really, you cant take it with you.

Goofy05
06-21-2007, 09:28 PM
You mean it was all PhotoShopped? Or that the shots were somehow taken out of context? Oh for Pete's Sake, this is more pathetic than I suspected. :headache: Either way, my blood pressure's going up more by the minute. :mad:

Really boy, GROW UP! Use the conscience you were born with and stop pulling stunts like this. I don't know if your MO is to impress people with all of your "wealth", but if it is, gee, how well has THAT worked out for you? You've got a board full of people who now don't trust you and wouldn't want to be your friend in game or in real life because of that lack of trust and the fact that you're cheating people out of hard earned things that are THEIRS. Not yours, theirs. So what have you accomplished, really? Sure, you have rare things, but they're things that don't even really exist! What about integrity? What about respect for others and yourself? I pray that you find the meaning of those things and right your wrongs. All the things, money, or fame in life is worth NOTHING without integrity. :sad2:


AWESOME POST!!! Also very true.
Unfortunately, he is not the only one.

SweetJaydGrl
06-21-2007, 09:45 PM
Exactly. No one goes from having nothing and a month later brags about how much stitch, sparrow and inferno he has.

But if you think about who is to blame? The players dont make things rare, vmk does. Greed drives ppl. I think they should release everything and stop this trading frenzie. Because if you think he is the only one, your very wrong.
Stop the rare..........stop the host and staff favorites vmk. Enough is enough.

Yea I remember this person coming to us one morning like 2 months ago saying how he traded everything he had for Inferno. Then like a week later he was wearing his inferno, stitch, sparrow and several rare pins. Then like another week later. He's got a room full of pirate quest and talking about how he has like 5 stitch hats and several sparrow costumes. Then all his eye pins and his 5 star inferno and Green flips.
Even though the person isn't the sharpest tool in the shed to make a trade without having the goods be traded at the same time. It still is a scam, why doesn't vmk think so? I dont get it!!

Oh and by the way........ this scammer was on my friend list up until a week or so ago when he messaged me saying he was leaving vmk for the summer.
(( Rolls eyes)) yea right.. he's going to be doing the same scams just under a new title.

Infact this past week there has been this character trying to get on Robs and my friend list, acting like he knows us and we've never seen him before. We saw this same person yesterday being accused of scamming a girl out of her rare for stitch.
I hope vmk really takes a look into this guy and bans his computer and all the characters made with that IP.

Alvern_Boy
06-21-2007, 09:54 PM
Yeah...last month this guy took my friends stitch and sparrow. Said he was going to give his inferno on the second trade window.:guilty:

cteddiesgirl
06-21-2007, 09:54 PM
Hugs, Jeffcat!

People that scam things from people, or help others to scam, are worth dirt!


There is something to do about all these scams! Nobody can "steal" your stuff without your participation.

1) Only do trades that can be completed in one transaction.
2) Do not lend anything to anybody that you would be sad to lose.
3) Take your time and confirm each time all the items in the trade.

While I generally follow these rules myself, if you want certain items such as Inferno, beta, Stitch hat, Eye pin, etc, most of the time, you have to do multiple trade windows. It is the fault of both the players and vmk.

VMK is at fault by making items so rare. The players are at fault for being willing to trade away so much to get one item.

Exactly. No one goes from having nothing and a month later brags about how much stitch, sparrow and inferno he has.

This is my thought, too. I've been playing since September '05 and I still don't have Inferno, Stitch hat, most beta, green flips or Sparrow. Anyone that has so much of those items that just started playing gets them by:
a: getting very lucky in many trades
b: getting lucky by having a very large family or group that does not play VMK booking a trip to DLR and ends up getting a ton of Stitch collecitons
c: having some very in-game rich friends giving them lots of free stuff
d: scamming people out of their items.


I think they should release everything and stop this trading frenzie. Because if you think he is the only one, your very wrong.
Stop the rare..........stop the host and staff favorites vmk. Enough is enough.
Yes.:thumbsup2

I hope vmk really takes a look into this guy and bans his computer and all the characters made with that IP.
Unfortunately, if this person knows how to change his IP, this really won't help. :(

Peri
06-21-2007, 09:55 PM
I am so sorry this incident happened to you. I also thought the original "Lily gave it to me" story was extremely suspicious and doubtful, expecially since VMK would not even honor Mal's loss - Mal, who is our trusted leader! I know VMK knows who she is.

I am so sorry . . .

PopStar
06-21-2007, 09:59 PM
This is just down right disgusting! he's still going at it! People like him make me sick.

Just incase he's reading this right now, i'd like to have a little talk with you:

So, how do you feel after you have just scammed somebody ouut of their stuff? Are you happy? Happy that you just got something totally valuable in a virtual game? Knowing you just crushed somebody's heart and possibly making them cry? How do you sleep at night? Do you dream of sweet little birdies...or scamming MORE ppl? hmm well if you're ok with all of that, you need to go to the store and buy a heart. let me put this into perspective for you:

A young 5 year old girl just went to Disney World for the 1st time. imagine the smiles she had, having the time of her life, in the Magical place we all love. She happens to come across VMK Central, and joins VMK! Yippee! she can bring the wonderful life of Disney home with her! She gets home and her mommy helps her sign up. Her mom doesn't know much about vmk, bc she had never played herself. So she let's her little bundle of joy play on the computer while she sits next to her and reads a book, not really paying attention to what she is doing on the game. The girl had gotten a code from going to disney, a special code, infact, a very VALUABLE code. Stitch is now in her possesion! It looks so pretty on her character. Then YOU come along, a disgusting little boy who likes pixels over integrity. You scam her out of her stitch hat, and all of her pretty items that she loved with all her little heart. You crushed her. Her Disney Dreams ruined. Crying her own little heart out. Her mother doesn't want her playing the game anymore, bc it caused her so much misery. See that? you LITERALLY ruined this little 5 year old's dreams. CRUSHED them to smitherines.

You can affect a person's life by the little things that you do. I hope you take all this to heart, and realize all that you've done. That is, if you have one.

Cardinal
06-21-2007, 10:00 PM
Normally, I'd be trying to provide some comic relief here. If I am correct in guessing who the scammer is, the final verdict could go either way. He sounds like he's a big favorite among staff members and probably thinks he can get away with a scam, even when it's this low. That's the funniest thing here.




Cough. Cough. Cough. :mad:

SkippyPaul
06-21-2007, 10:14 PM
Yea I remember this person coming to us one morning like 2 months ago saying how he traded everything he had for Inferno. Then like a week later he was wearing his inferno, stitch, sparrow and several rare pins. Then like another week later. He's got a room full of pirate quest and talking about how he has like 5 stitch hats and several sparrow costumes. Then all his eye pins and his 5 star inferno and Green flips.
Even though the person isn't the sharpest tool in the shed to make a trade without having the goods be traded at the same time. It still is a scam, why doesn't vmk think so? I dont get it!!

Oh and by the way........ this scammer was on my friend list up until a week or so ago when he messaged me saying he was leaving vmk for the summer.
(( Rolls eyes)) yea right.. he's going to be doing the same scams just under a new title.

Infact this past week there has been this character trying to get on Robs and my friend list, acting like he knows us and we've never seen him before. We saw this same person yesterday being accused of scamming a girl out of her rare for stitch.
I hope vmk really takes a look into this guy and bans his computer and all the characters made with that IP.


Well like we suspect, Im positive this person trying to get on our friends list is the same one we are discussing here.

SO ppl beware of someone anxious to get on your list, acting like they know you. Im sure they do. Its him. Hmm isnt he just the "COMIC" lol

astrostan
06-21-2007, 10:33 PM
I am now disgusted!!! For making a fake scam and having ppl sympathise for him!! That is so so low. I can't believe that this has happened. What scum!!!!!!!!!! i am sorry that i actually had a small thought that he was innocent. Now i regret that i had ever saw good in him. He is no enemy number one in my book. I am disgusted. :mad: :mad: :mad: I am so so so sorry that this low life stole from you .

Laurabearz
06-21-2007, 10:33 PM
Something tells me this person is dispursing all his goodies to other unknown peeps this evening...

astrojordan
06-21-2007, 10:44 PM
When i was new i looked up to him... i just glad i didnt turn out like him .. i just dont understand how somebody can be so mean and fake.... and about him dispursing his goodies i hope nobody wants his dirty rare items : (

Goofy05
06-21-2007, 10:52 PM
When i was new i looked up to him... i just glad i didnt turn out like him .. i just dont understand how somebody can be so mean and fake.... and about him dispursing his goodies i hope nobody wants his dirty rare items : (

I think she means among his many mules. Sad. Very sad.

FilamentTheBright
06-21-2007, 10:54 PM
Yes, he seems to be Blazin a Blue streak around VMK.

Laurabearz
06-21-2007, 11:05 PM
I think she means among his many mules. Sad. Very sad.

Yes I did.

IliketheTitanic
06-21-2007, 11:25 PM
Yes I did.

I have seen another mule of this person before, its very similar to his title, and he had told me it was him on his mule. However, i doubt he would use the account since it is so similar to his title. PM me if you would like to know the title.

- IliketheTitanic

Cardinal
06-21-2007, 11:26 PM
"VIP" players should never be looked up to, simply because it's a little pathetic to be idolizing someone who does well in a virtual life. The reason that this player thinks he can get away with this, I think, is because players do idolize him and he is a favorite among staff.

aengus
06-21-2007, 11:28 PM
I had already heard a new account was out running around. He doesnt know it, but one of his pals is telling a few people who and what he is up to. And after he reads this... good luck figuring out who it is @_@

he should know there is no honor among thieves.

paranoid? muahaha

Cardinal
06-21-2007, 11:30 PM
I had already heard a new account was out running around. He doesnt know it, but one of his pals is telling a few people who and what he is up to. And after reading this... good luck figuring out who it is @_@

paranoid? muahaha

That's horrible. He should be subjected to a cramped elevator where all of your TIV songs are played, loudly, over and over again.

IliketheTitanic
06-21-2007, 11:32 PM
I had already heard a new account was out running around. He doesnt know it, but one of his pals is telling a few people who and what he is up to. And after he reads this... good luck figuring out who it is @_@

he should know there is no honor among thieves.

paranoid? muahaha

I totally agree with that phrase, and as for his " pal " looks like he has a spy watching him.

Laurabearz
06-21-2007, 11:42 PM
I had already heard a new account was out running around. He doesnt know it, but one of his pals is telling a few people who and what he is up to. And after he reads this... good luck figuring out who it is @_@

he should know there is no honor among thieves.

paranoid? muahaha

You can run, but you can't hide... Why not run off to get a... second life (http://secondlife.com/) There are lots of your types there...

VMKaddict
06-21-2007, 11:42 PM
While I will still hunt down the person responsible, Some Sunny Rays On my Cloudy Day.

Aengus (temporarily) has loaned me his Stitch Hat until the Matter is resolved.

LAVA BOY!! YOU ROCK!!

PS: Now that I have worn of the initial shock of such gratitude..
This is what Disney and VMK should be about. Generosity to fellow man, The providing of dreams, and believing that magic is possible.

I'm still hunting for those who attempt to ruin that magic for others.
Call Me... The Scammer Hunter
Aengus thats really nice that you did that:thumbsup2

Shaymojack
06-22-2007, 12:11 AM
That's horrible. He should be subjected to a cramped elevator where all of your TIV songs are played, loudly, over and over again.
Or just make him listen to you singing I Feel Pretty...

mking624
06-22-2007, 12:30 AM
I have a suspicion on who it is, but if someone could PM me the name as well as any known mule titles, that would be great. I'd like to make sure that I'm not associating with this person on VMK.

astrojordan
06-22-2007, 12:49 AM
i think we can all agree that he better not post on dis for a long and i mean LONG time ........ if the mods didnt block him already

Master Gracy
06-22-2007, 05:17 AM
I went to the scammers room last night, where he simply laughed at me and said it was very funny we all thought it was him.I find this totally obnoxious, and he made it out as a joke to all his friends (who all had stitch hats also)
I dont know what is up with vmk these days, Ive lost all faith in goodness

threeboysmom
06-22-2007, 07:42 AM
If anybody wants this CREEP's name, just pm me, I'll be more than happy to share it among friends.

I'd like to hear from him myself. I know you're reading... Come on, speak up!

VMK_MagicalLadee
06-22-2007, 07:56 AM
Yes, If he didn't do it, you think he would post here to say he didn't.

But no, hes steering CLEAR of this one.

threeboysmom
06-22-2007, 08:03 AM
Exactly, and you don't sit there and LAUGH and think it's FUNNY if you are being falsely accused.

My heart goes out to Jeffcat and all the others that have been scammed by this lowlife. Please let us help you get your items back. We would all LOVE to help you out!! :hug:

aengus
06-22-2007, 08:21 AM
I have heard first hand the entire story, and there was also a witness to the event whom jeffcat was speaking with during the entire process.

There is no doubt in my mind what happened. I will repeat what I said earlier. Setting someone up to be conned, is no different than the person who actually did the deed. In a case like this, it's actually worse.

I am totally amazed this person doesnt hand over a stitch hat and say sorry. We all know he has the means to do so easily.

Would it bring back trust? nope. Would it change any opinions? probably not. But, it would sit in the back of everyones mind, that in the end this person at least has a conscience and better late than never to do the right thing. That would be the first step in starting over.

cteddiesgirl
06-22-2007, 09:03 AM
I have heard first hand the entire story, and there was also a witness to the event whom jeffcat was speaking with during the entire process.

There is no doubt in my mind what happened. I will repeat what I said earlier. Setting someone up to be conned, is no different than the person who actually did the deed. In a case like this, it's actually worse.

I am totally amazed this person doesnt hand over a stitch hat and say sorry. We all know he has the means to do so easily.

Would it bring back trust? nope. Would it change any opinions? probably not. But, it would sit in the back of everyones mind, that in the end this person at least has a conscience and better late than never to do the right thing. That would be the first step in starting over.

Unfortunately, I don't think this person has a conscience. Not if he can sit in his room an laugh over this.

So, I seriously doubt that he will do the right thing in the end. :sad2:

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 09:38 AM
By now, i think we all know who this rotten person is.

He hasn't posted in a while but yeah

So he shows off on the boards?

Crys over his flips that are gone. Gets them back.. And scams another person?

I hope staff know by now.

He just ruined his life on VMK.

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 09:43 AM
Well like we suspect, Im positive this person trying to get on our friends list is the same one we are discussing here.

SO ppl beware of someone anxious to get on your list, acting like they know you. Im sure they do. Its him. Hmm isnt he just the "COMIC" lol


" COMIC " You say?

That is the same person who scammed my friend.

All His stuff dissappeared. And the stupid scammer even put in my friends signature ( when he got on his account ) Haha, this is comic on your account :Pop

How STUPID.

Cardinal
06-22-2007, 10:01 AM
Or just make him listen to you singing I Feel Pretty...

We want to torture him, not kill him.


You can run, but you can't hide... Why not run off to get a... second life There are lots of your types there...

I wouldn't doubt that he has an account there already.

Goofy05
06-22-2007, 10:13 AM
I think it's time this thread was read again. Please take special note of post #26. It pertains to this scam as well.
http://http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1461654&page=2 (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1461654&page=2)
It would seem this is a common practice for 'someone' from this forums....I thought I smelled a rat...

SkippyPaul
06-22-2007, 10:38 AM
" COMIC " You say?

That is the same person who scammed my friend.

All His stuff dissappeared. And the stupid scammer even put in my friends signature ( when he got on his account ) Haha, this is comic on your account :Pop

How STUPID.


Yes Im sure this new character is him. He's followed sweet and I to several of our rooms trying to get back on our list under this title. And naturally has been accused of scams even on this title already.

But think about this ppl. Back when he supposedly lost his most prized possession.....then made a pity me room on vmk that he was leaving vmk. How many ppl trusted him and flocked there to his room?? Thats what I find funny in all of this. I hear things like.....I respected him, I trusted him. Why because he had inferno or flips? Ppl its virtual junk, nothing more. Inferno does not make a person. How strange, the ppl we choose to look up to in a virtual forest of greed and lies.

And you think he acted alone?

Well Im sure hes lovin all this hype. Why we feeding his ego?

whs_singingrose
06-22-2007, 10:39 AM
I honestly don't get why people scam others.

In the past week I've had two people scam me in the game.

VMK has gotten out of control.

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 10:58 AM
Yes Im sure this new character is him. He's followed sweet and I to several of our rooms trying to get back on our list under this title. And naturally has been accused of scams even on this title already.

But think about this ppl. Back when he supposedly lost his most prized possession.....then made a pity me room on vmk that he was leaving vmk. How many ppl trusted him and flocked there to his room?? Thats what I find funny in all of this. I hear things like.....I respected him, I trusted him. Why because he had inferno or flips? Ppl its virtual junk, nothing more. Inferno does not make a person. How strange, the ppl we choose to look up to in a virtual forest of greed and lies.

And you think he acted alone?

Well Im sure hes lovin all this hype. Why we feeding his ego?

Yup, " Comic " And him Have teamed up, and they went crazy yesterday in a trade room..

MY friend saw them..

It was soooo FREAKISH.

Why is VMK still letting them on! Ban there IP's For Good!

cteddiesgirl
06-22-2007, 11:23 AM
Why is VMK still letting them on! Ban there IP's For Good!

As I've stated previously, banning his IP will do little good. I'm sure he knows how to change it.

If he changes his IP, he can log right back in. Banning his character won't do any good either. He's already learned that it takes little work to scam people and get stuff in no time at all.

It seems as if this is a game to him. That he's not doing harm to anyone. So, as long as he finds it fun for him, he will contine doing it.:sad2:

Spongeblair
06-22-2007, 11:26 AM
Well if this is same person he took 5000 credits from me and still have not got them back I felt sorry for him after something bad happened and he said he needed it to do something but would give it back next thing I knew he said ttyl.
~Spongeblair

DaraAllen
06-22-2007, 11:31 AM
It seems as if this is a game to him. That he's not doing harm to anyone. So, as long as he finds it fun for him, he will contine doing it.:sad2:

Yes and he's probably loving all the attention he is getting, albeit negative attention. He's obviously starved for attention, given how he's behaved in front of me before (purposely showing off his wares, such as stitch, green car etc.).

Maybe if we just stop talking about him and his antics, and stay away from him and his kind in game, he will tire of it all and go quietly into that good night. That would be my hope, anyway.

IliketheTitanic
06-22-2007, 11:37 AM
Well if anyone knows of this persons mules, could you please PM them to me? I already know 1 of them.

Thanks,

- IliketheTitanic

whs_singingrose
06-22-2007, 11:42 AM
Have any of you seen the number one most popular room in VMK?

It's telling people about one of the spammers we are talking about

PopStar
06-22-2007, 12:02 PM
i bet that room is filled with ppl who have been scammed by him...:sad2:

I would like to know the name and mules of this person (even though i know the main already...) so i can keep an eye out.

I say ban both the accounts and the IPs, if they can tell all of the characters on the same IP, they should ban them all then the IP.

And how did "COMIC" hack into the accounts? how did he get the information? Did your friend tell them?

Maleficent2
06-22-2007, 12:03 PM
The moderators would greatly appreciate it if someone would please PM us this players other ids.

thank you

Also just wanted to note that VMK can not only ban an IP address they can also ban a computer from any further access to VMK. My understanding is once that computer has been banned then there is no way anyone can use that computer to log onto VMK.

I am not up on how this works so if someone with more knowledge on the subject cares to post and explain, please do.

rickyratsmom
06-22-2007, 12:03 PM
There are at least 3 rooms looking for this guy. Oh my lynch mobs on VMK! Well if this doesn't get the staff attention then they are all comatose!

PopStar
06-22-2007, 12:28 PM
The most popular room in all VMK has to do with Bewaring players of the 2 players' schemes. There are at least 5 other rooms concerning them!

and i bet those ' friends ' of his with the stitch hats that were in his room were all his little mule buddies.

EDIT: The top 3 rooms on the Pop List are Wanted rooms! This should REALLY get staff's attention! these players are serial scammers!

Total Rooms Concerning Them On Pop List: 6

mking624
06-22-2007, 12:39 PM
I'm in one of the rooms and lots of talking about trying to report him (and getting no where with it). One person keeps saying that people can't do this to him (the DIS guy) because he is her family. Then she reported he was currently in a trade room (shocking). When they tried asking her which trade room, she said she was going to play pirates and promptly disappeared. Some people speculated that this was him on a different account.

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 12:41 PM
As I've stated previously, banning his IP will do little good. I'm sure he knows how to change it.

If he changes his IP, he can log right back in. Banning his character won't do any good either. He's already learned that it takes little work to scam people and get stuff in no time at all.

It seems as if this is a game to him. That he's not doing harm to anyone. So, as long as he finds it fun for him, he will contine doing it.:sad2:


Why cant they just ban his computer then? or would that be the same as a IP? :confused:

pinkgalYall
06-22-2007, 12:48 PM
Really, vmk can't do much. They can ban his account and his IP, but we all know he already has several accounts, he would just make more and change the address.

jasonpwns
06-22-2007, 12:54 PM
Hugs, Jeffcat!

People that scam things from people, or help others to scam, are worth dirt!



While I generally follow these rules myself, if you want certain items such as Inferno, beta, Stitch hat, Eye pin, etc, most of the time, you have to do multiple trade windows. It is the fault of both the players and vmk.

VMK is at fault by making items so rare. The players are at fault for being willing to trade away so much to get one item.


This is my thought, too. I've been playing since September '05 and I still don't have Inferno, Stitch hat, most beta, green flips or Sparrow. Anyone that has so much of those items that just started playing gets them by:
a: getting very lucky in many trades
b: getting lucky by having a very large family or group that does not play VMK booking a trip to DLR and ends up getting a ton of Stitch collecitons
c: having some very in-game rich friends giving them lots of free stuff
d: scamming people out of their items.



Yes.:thumbsup2


Unfortunately, if this person knows how to change his IP, this really won't help. :(


Ive gotton inferno 7 times in the game and all 7 within a 5 month span ive lost one in a scam but other then that ive traded well and earned it the first inferno you could call "luck" since I pretty much only offered alot of basic quest and a few pirate quest items but then I traded that inferno for alot and traded half of that stuff for another inferno then so on so I guess I could call myself a good trader but sadly People do scam for these rare items which is pointless? why scam?

bytheblood
06-22-2007, 01:12 PM
I don't who who this is, but I would like to be PM'd the Dis name and VMK name to protect myself.

macntosh
06-22-2007, 01:12 PM
Really want this posted publicly, if so I know someone that has the answers. :lmao: The moderators would greatly appreciate it if someone would please PM us this players other ids.

thank you

Also just wanted to note that VMK can not only ban an IP address they can also ban a computer from any further access to VMK. My understanding is once that computer has been banned then there is no way anyone can use that computer to log onto VMK.

I am not up on how this works so if someone with more knowledge on the subject cares to post and explain, please do.

mking624
06-22-2007, 01:15 PM
Hmmm, the room I was in closed and a message from VMK Staff came saying "this room is being emptied while the owner redecorates." Had a few defenders in the room, one going as far as saying it was the players faults for being scammed by the people in question.

ETA: Looks like the rooms are being shut down by staff. I've seen room names being changed to "unacceptable room title" and am getting messages from friends saying they are all getting that "owner is redecorating" message.

rosesredrosered
06-22-2007, 01:22 PM
Hmmm, the room I was in closed and a message from VMK Staff came saying "this room is being emptied while the owner redecorates." Had a few defenders in the room, one going as far as saying it was the players faults for being scammed by the people in question.


Yep, I was in there too. There was one player in there that seemed extremely suspicious.


The second "Wanted" room I was in today was emptied as well. I'm going to go try another, LOL.

bytheblood
06-22-2007, 01:39 PM
The fact that this individual has not come here to defend himself is pretty much an omission of guilt. ;)

rosesredrosered
06-22-2007, 01:45 PM
This screams mule to me:

Someone was saying - so and so - is good, - so and so - is good while I was in a room. Other people would agree. My gosh, how many accounts does this person have?

whs_singingrose
06-22-2007, 01:46 PM
The fact that this individual has not come here to defend himself is pretty much an omission of guilt. ;)

I agree.

Berry Princess
06-22-2007, 01:53 PM
I didn't read all the posts but skimmed some..If VMK doesn't start to look at fixing the mess the game has become then they will end up having to shut it down. This is getting out of hand with to many things. I'm sorry this happened to you and by that person of all people. I find it sad that they have tried to claim innocent but yet found it funny. Sorry but you can't find it funny if you are innocent of this and ever expect people to take you serious about trades in the future. I had held my tongue during the one thing but wanted to so badly say so much about how things ended up going down with that person and getting "their" item back. SHAME on you! We all have had to know that with summer comes more of this kind of bad behavior. It stinks but because some don't watch their kids and let them do whatever it happens (of course I'm sure there are adults doing it as well). Something really needs to change. As was said they are going to have to stop doing these "rare" items and just let everyone have a shot at them or something cause the whole trading thing isn't working when you have so many out to scam people.

macntosh
06-22-2007, 02:08 PM
Have a weekend where EVERYTHING is on sale, this includes anything ever released that is NOT staff specific. Two days only with enough notice to earn credits.

DaraAllen
06-22-2007, 02:11 PM
This screams mule to me:

Someone was saying - so and so - is good, - so and so - is good while I was in a room. Other people would agree. My gosh, how many accounts does this person have?

Lots and lots and lots and lots from what I've observed.

whs_singingrose
06-22-2007, 02:12 PM
I'm in a room where people say they have talked to someone and that Comic framed him

rickyratsmom
06-22-2007, 02:19 PM
Ok this is really disturbing. I am in a room that players are saying this guy has hacked into their accounts, stole their items and then had them banned through contact us??? All the kids are saying they are scared and telling everyone to take off their rare so they are not the next victim...so very very sad that a game made for children now has them afraid...VMK do something now!!

rickyratsmom
06-22-2007, 02:26 PM
OMG everyone go to room MAGICAL_minnie. The creep left pics, a terroristic and sadistic kind of explanation to all this....absolutely horrible!

DaraAllen
06-22-2007, 02:31 PM
OMG everyone go to room MAGICAL_minnie. The creep left pics, a terroristic and sadistic kind of explanation to all this....absolutely horrible!

Please do not go to this room, if it is truly this bad. Please, rickyratsmom, report the room and get out of there! Find some CLs and see if they have staff on their lists to get that room closed. God forbid some little kid wanders in there and sees such negative stuff.

Please put the morbid curiosity aside and help staff shut it down. That is the most important thing for you all to do. I'm at work and can't do anything.

rickyratsmom
06-22-2007, 02:34 PM
Thanks Dara! Will do!

VMK_MagicalLadee
06-22-2007, 02:39 PM
There is a room called...

"____ is good ____ is good"

This is pathetic.

Cardinal
06-22-2007, 02:42 PM
There is a room called...

"____ is good ____ is good"

This is pathetic.

They're probably created by _____'s mules :rolleyes:

astrojordan
06-22-2007, 02:51 PM
Wow this is a huge deal vmk is out of hand i think vmk should close for a week or two and the host should brain storm for some ideas to protect players, make trades safe and scam protecive, and take out all adult situations! this is just what i was thinking i have no idea on how to do that stuff but vmk needs to have a revolution.

VMK_MagicalLadee
06-22-2007, 02:54 PM
They're probably created by _____'s mules :rolleyes:

Really? :rolleyes:

smiley76
06-22-2007, 02:55 PM
He's in his room now on another account. He is saying someone else logged into his account and scammed ppl and they stole eight stitch hats from him. Yeah right. Meanwhile he is wearing green flips!

DaraAllen
06-22-2007, 02:58 PM
He's in his room now on another account. He is saying someone else logged into his account and scammed ppl and they stole eight stitch hats from him. Yeah right. Meanwhile he is wearing green flips!

Geez, if you are going to lie to cover your tracks, at least come up with a good one, ______! Stole your account? Puhleeze! And meanwhile, how the hades do you get eight stitch hats, unless you are scamming people!

And he still has those green flips! Arg!

VMK_MagicalLadee
06-22-2007, 02:59 PM
I have proof of what was said above me.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/Magicalladee/rise1-1.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/Magicalladee/rise2.jpg

JojoMin
06-22-2007, 03:00 PM
Ok this is really disturbing. I am in a room that players are saying this guy has hacked into their accounts, stole their items and then had them banned through contact us??? All the kids are saying they are scared and telling everyone to take off their rare so they are not the next victim...so very very sad that a game made for children now has them afraid...VMK do something now!!
Really sad to read this :sad1: . I hope VMK will do something soon.

Master Gracy
06-22-2007, 03:00 PM
I hope this ruins his accounts name, and he has to try another account.

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 03:01 PM
Geez, if you are going to lie to cover your tracks, at least come up with a good one, ______! Stole your account? Puhleeze! And meanwhile, how the hades do you get eight stitch hats, unless you are scamming people!

And he still has those green flips! Arg!

do you know what would be great?

If he got scammed of his flips by the hosts.

And then he went crying to them, being like! Please Please hosts somebody took my flips, and on purpose they were like, well you shouldn't have gave out any personal information.

And then the next day, all his stuff is gone Haha

He would have to start from new. Just like a Guest.

Jeffcat
06-22-2007, 03:02 PM
Well everyone, I appreciate the positive response from the Dis about my issue. Unfortunately, VMK has done nothing yet. I've reported, Contact Us, Called VMK's number, and they have given me no response.

And judging by the way the Against Scams room are being shot down by VMK Staff, I wonder if they'll help those hurt my scammers at all.

Cardinal
06-22-2007, 03:04 PM
MagicalLadee, you might want to edit out the last word you said in the first picture.

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 03:05 PM
Jeff, i think now, we should all call this thread, the " I Really Hate xxxxxx" Thread.


And im very sorry about your items lost.

I Guess Staff wont do anything about xxxxxx in the end. Or at least they cant. :(

Im truely sorry.

I Just wish once, they could somehow ban his computer without using the IP

and ban the rest of his computers for good.

But it wouldn't do any good either.. he could just get another computer.

VMK_MagicalLadee
06-22-2007, 03:06 PM
MagicalLadee, you might want to edit out the last word you said in the first picture.

Ok done, take it out of your psot :p

Sorry i missed that.

mking624
06-22-2007, 03:08 PM
I'm in his room now (I see you MagicalLadee! :)). To avoid confusion, I'll make up user names. PeanutButter has said that his other account had items stolen from it but he is the luckiest guy on VMK right now because he had his green flips on the PeanutButter account. Someone called him by his other account name (Jelly) and he said "I am not Jelly." That player said Jelly had deleted him from his friends list. What I find interesting is that earlier (about an hour ago or so), I was in a room with both PeanutButter AND Jelly. Jelly stated to others in the room to add PeanutButter because that was his other account. PeanutButter also stated earlier in that previous room that Jelly was his other account. And now here is PeanutButter claiming to not be Jelly. I'm pretty much just remaining quiet watching it all. He's mostly been in trades while I've been there.

(My apologies to any players named "PeanutButter" or "Jelly"...just trying to use an example)

valeriesunshine
06-22-2007, 03:10 PM
He posted a thread... -_-

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 03:11 PM
im in his room now..

check out his room info,

It says Two stitch hats.. how could he have had ten stitch hats according to Magic's pictures?

Impossible..

Matty D
06-22-2007, 03:16 PM
I'm in his room now (I see you MagicalLadee! :)). To avoid confusion, I'll make up user names. PeanutButter has said that his other account had items stolen from it but he is the luckiest guy on VMK right now because he had his green flips on the PeanutButter account. Someone called him by his other account name (Jelly) and he said "I am not Jelly." That player said Jelly had deleted him from his friends list. What I find interesting is that earlier (about an hour ago or so), I was in a room with both PeanutButter AND Jelly. Jelly stated to others in the room to add PeanutButter because that was his other account. PeanutButter also stated earlier in that previous room that Jelly was his other account. And now here is PeanutButter claiming to not be Jelly. I'm pretty much just remaining quiet watching it all. He's mostly been in trades while I've been there.

(My apologies to any players named "PeanutButter" or "Jelly"...just trying to use an example)

Not to make light of the situation, but all this talk of peanut butter and jelly is making me hungry.

mking624
06-22-2007, 03:17 PM
Not to make light of the situation, but all this talk of peanut butter and jelly is making me hungry.

:lmao: :lmao: Well you're welcome to come over...I have plenty of PB&J here. :lmao:

Berry Princess
06-22-2007, 03:28 PM
(My apologies to any players named "PeanutButter" or "Jelly"...just trying to use an example)



:lmao: :lmao: :rotfl2: :rotfl: Sorry but that was just funny.

WebmasterKelsie
06-22-2007, 03:34 PM
The last thing we want to do is close this thread so PLEASE watch posting of names and personal attacks!

Thanks :)

Maleficent2
06-22-2007, 03:50 PM
Have a weekend where EVERYTHING is on sale, this includes anything ever released that is NOT staff specific. Two days only with enough notice to earn credits.

I have been saying this for months Mac and I sure wish they would do it.

They could call it VMK Biggest YArd Sale ;)

I know for a fact that they are working hard to get this under control but it is my feeling that those who scam have been doing so and getting away with it for so long that this is a very difficult job to trace all the IPs, characters and IDs these low lifes use.

I have faith that VMK is well aware of this and is working to alleviate the problem.

Master Gracy
06-22-2007, 03:51 PM
I dont know what to believe
edit:he has an inferno offer?
with two stitch hats
omg

Maleficent2
06-22-2007, 03:53 PM
I dont know what to believe now:sad2:


:confused3 you have changed your mind and do not believe that this person scammed?

Roller Coaster Gal
06-22-2007, 03:55 PM
i agree with you mal, everything should go on sale for a day and everyone could go crazy buying it so there wouldn't be so much scamming. i am going to start taking screen shots too.

Master Gracy
06-22-2007, 03:56 PM
I do believe the scammed person,
but I dont know about the scammers story that he was hacked
I suppose his offer changed my mind
I wish he would come out and apologise,
Id respect the scammer alot more if he did

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 04:00 PM
If it really WAS him, he should just really apologize, like Master Gracy said.

Apologize to the people he scammed, give them back their stuff, Apologize to staff.

And End it all.

But then there are other people on the world.

Terrible People..

pinkgalYall
06-22-2007, 04:09 PM
Everyone always says there are a lot of scammers in vmk. Did anyone ever stop too think that they could almost all be the same person? You can delete characters so they wouldn't get in trouble for having too many mules, and Daisy said he had a Guest with him.

Belle1997
06-22-2007, 04:09 PM
well I looked at that pic and saw all those haunted mansion clocks and rare stuff. And thought You could of gotten green flips back no problem with all that rare stuff.

Then I thought Am I looking at a crime scene. My stomach felt yucky thinking about how many players were scammed out of that.

Please VMK get rid of him forever. And to know he is using mules to scam people take his stuff and hold a VMK auction. Each player on the home page can bid on say three items and the highest bidder get an item of his scammed stuff. Kinda like a police auction :) That way say a couple of Hundred could win stuff.

SweetJaydGrl
06-22-2007, 04:10 PM
I have proof of what was said above me.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/Magicalladee/rise1-1.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/Magicalladee/rise2.jpg

Omg I knew that was him, he's the one that has been trying everyday to get on our friendlist.
Good Grief :eek:

pinkgalYall
06-22-2007, 04:11 PM
well I looked at that pic and saw all those haunted mansion clocks and rare stuff. And thought You could of gotten green flips back no problem with all that rare stuff.

Then I thought Am I looking at a crime scene. My stomach felt yucky thinking about how many players were scammed out of that.

Please VMK get rid of him forever. And to know he is using mules to scam people take his stuff and hold a VMK auction. Each player on the home page can bid on say three items and the highest bidder get an item of his scammed stuff. Kinda like a police auction :) That way say a couple of Hundred could win stuff.

:sad2:

Just imagine how many people he must have scammed, those rooms this morning were full.

aensming
06-22-2007, 04:12 PM
I have been saying this for months Mac and I sure wish they would do it.

They could call it VMK Biggest YArd Sale ;)

I know for a fact that they are working hard to get this under control but it is my feeling that those who scam have been doing so and getting away with it for so long that this is a very difficult job to trace all the IPs, characters and IDs these low lifes use.

I have faith that VMK is well aware of this and is working to alleviate the problem.

From my understanding:
1. There is a fixed number of most of the rare items: stitch, inferno, haunted mansion items
2. If a scammer is caught and the account banned, those items they took are lost to VMK forever - because they are not given back to the rightful owners.
3. Thus, anytime the scammers are banned, the rarity and desirability of the rare items rises.
4. Thus, more scammers come in and the cycle continues.

Mal - your idea stops the cycle!

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 04:15 PM
Lily was just in ' Garizles ' room.

He wasn't there so she made everyone leave.

I think she came to see what was happening or something.

Or just that Garizles in BIG trouble.

bytheblood
06-22-2007, 04:16 PM
Lily was just in ' Garizles ' room.

He wasn't there so she made everyone leave.

I think she came to see what was happening or something.

Or just that Garizles in BIG trouble.


I hope it is the latter.

I am going to tell my daughter no more trading for a while. :sad2:

Master Gracy
06-22-2007, 04:17 PM
well his room is closed now,
suppose he had enough,
sigh.
If he apologised, he would not be such a stigma to anyone, and he could be brought back into vmk society,
the way it is now no one wants him.

Cardinal
06-22-2007, 04:18 PM
Did you see the title of Garizle's thread?

"No fighting on boards, you knew what would happen if you posted."

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Some people say having a lot of nerve is a good thing!

rickyratsmom
06-22-2007, 04:21 PM
I asked Lily if it was possible to hack into a VMK account and she said it is possible since you never know what computer geeks are capable of...she also suggested changing passwords. I think VMK must be concerned at this point for Lily to say that!

Master Gracy
06-22-2007, 04:22 PM
oh dear

mking624
06-22-2007, 04:24 PM
well his room is closed now,
suppose he had enough,
He wasn't the one who closed his room....Host Lily came in, spoke with us for a few minutes, and then closed the room. People did inform her that he wanted to talk to staff (though he made no effort to even try to get in the host room, just said "line is too long"...man if that was me, I'd be really trying if I knew I was being set up)...she said she bet he did want to speak to staff, and that she guesses that puts an end to him thinking that he is on her list (I have a screen cap of that last part). One person wanted to know if their accounts were safe and she said that if we're worried about our accounts, to change the password. She never answered direct questions about what was going on, but she also never denied anything and at one point said that VMK is well aware of what's going on.

Maleficent2
06-22-2007, 04:27 PM
well I looked at that pic and saw all those haunted mansion clocks and rare stuff. And thought You could of gotten green flips back no problem with all that rare stuff.

Then I thought Am I looking at a crime scene. My stomach felt yucky thinking about how many players were scammed out of that.

Please VMK get rid of him forever. And to know he is using mules to scam people take his stuff and hold a VMK auction. Each player on the home page can bid on say three items and the highest bidder get an item of his scammed stuff. Kinda like a police auction :) That way say a couple of Hundred could win stuff.

I think they should actually when they catch someone scamming take all their items and hold yard sales until all gone. 1 item per person/character. Make them reasonable amounts like a real yard sale.

Say inferno for 1000 credits
Sparrow hat 1000 credits
Stitch hat 1500 credits
etc etc

Master Gracy
06-22-2007, 04:27 PM
oh really?
gosh if i was the one who was hacked Id try everything to save myself from being banned, (if we believe his story)
but no, he doesnt.
I really would hope he is in trouble, and that the host sees through this ruse

Cardinal
06-22-2007, 04:34 PM
I have proof of what was said above me.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/Magicalladee/rise1-1.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/Magicalladee/rise2.jpg

Oh, and do you notice that he's still wearing a nice, expensive, and rare green explorer's suit?

IliketheTitanic
06-22-2007, 04:35 PM
Ok i have a couple of reasons of the story that was told has many holes in it:

Reasons the story does not make sense:

Reason #1: If his account was " hacked " why was he in a Offer for inferno room when the scammer could have just took everything.

Reason #2: he still has green flips, surly someone probably would have took them.

Reason #3: Why would the scammer who hacked the account need another person to help him scam?

the story is filled with many holes.

Master Gracy
06-22-2007, 04:35 PM
and green flips to match
:sad2:
I refuse to buy into his sob stories any more

Berry Princess
06-22-2007, 04:36 PM
Just my 2 cents cause I was in the room when when Lily was there and said that about the computer geeks. But I honestly don't think people have had accts hacked into. Its just the people are scammed out of items and more then likely its from the same person on different accts....as well as some others that are not that person I'm sure. But I saw some people freaking out saying they are scared when I don't think they should be. As well as some saying it was the owner of VMK Pal and that he is the person that stole things and is stealing passwords. I don't think so and I said something about it and tried to say how it isn't a hacking job but someone that is just able to scam others of their items and just to watch the trading and be careful about things. If everyone on VMK right now doesn't watch it I wouldn't be surprised if they take the game down. There are to many guest rooms with this topic (as well as ones against the rules). I am bored so I ventured in 2 different ones with a mule and left shortly after going in...one I crashed in though after a VMK person came in and I think they booted everyone as well cause it looked like a pop up came up behind the crash message. Anyway, just be aware of the trades you do..IF you trade. Don't let someone fool you. If you have a bad feeling about it don't do it. If you see signs of things that could be a red flag warning then take it as that and run from the trade. This whole thing is so out of hand. I feel for those in the game right now that come upon this stuff and have no clue.

Spongeblair
06-22-2007, 04:37 PM
I think they should actully when they catch someone scamming take all their items and hold yard sales until all gone. 1 item per person/character. Make them reasonable amounts like a real yard sale.

Say inferno for 1000 credits
Sparrow hat 1000 credits
Stitch hat 1500 credits
etc etc
Raise the price Mal he'll be able to get them back I gave him 5000 credits that he wanted to "borrow". I didn't like it how he was soooo nice at the start but now I know the real thing. I hope he's ashamed. I mean come on little kids have lost inferno's and stitch's and sparrow's even green flips that have been scammed out of them and he got his items back straight away where those other players have quit vmk or play but from the start(not trading again)
~Spongeblair

PopStar
06-22-2007, 04:38 PM
I'm really confused right now. This Comic guy, is a VMK-wide scammer. He hacks. And i didn't go into that room, but what i just read, sounds like he is a BAD person. He shouldn't even be on VMK.

But someone posted that Comic framed the suspected scammer. If that's true, then he obviously WOULD have all that rare stuff. To make it look like there is no possible way he is telling the truth and that everything points to him.

So if he really IS telling the truth, the REAL scammer gets what he wants.(unless the suspected scammer is also a scammer) But if he isn't, we're right up his rear.

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 04:39 PM
Just my 2 cents cause I was in the room when when Lily was there and said that about the computer geeks. But I honestly don't think people have had accts hacked into. Its just the people are scammed out of items and more then likely its from the same person on different accts....as well as some others that are not that person I'm sure. But I saw some people freaking out saying they are scared when I don't think they should be. As well as some saying it was the owner of VMK Pal and that he is the person that stole things and is stealing passwords. I don't think so and I said something about it and tried to say how it isn't a hacking job but someone that is just able to scam others of their items and just to watch the trading and be careful about things. If everyone on VMK right now doesn't watch it I wouldn't be surprised if they take the game down. There are to many guest rooms with this topic (as well as ones against the rules). I am bored so I ventured in 2 different ones with a mule and left shortly after going in...one I crashed in though after a VMK person came in and I think they booted everyone as well cause it looked like a pop up came up behind the crash message. Anyway, just be aware of the trades you do..IF you trade. Don't let someone fool you. If you have a bad feeling about it don't do it. If you see signs of things that could be a red flag warning then take it as that and run from the trade. This whole thing is so out of hand. I feel for those in the game right now that come upon this stuff and have no clue.

I was there!

Berry Princess
06-22-2007, 04:42 PM
This whole "hacked" account thing is just annoying me. It has some people in the game freaked out when they shouldn't be. Obviously word is traveling in the game about things and there are those freaked that they will have their acct hacked into now. Sorry but I don't believe anyones acct was hacked. He can play this off all he wants to but its obvious it wasn't and he has way to many accts so he can play this "game". Besides if someone was hacking accts there would be others here that had it happen or in the game (and aren't this person and his many mules). *sigh*

IliketheTitanic
06-22-2007, 04:45 PM
This whole "hacked" account thing is just annoying me. It has some people in the game freaked out when they shouldn't be. Obviously word is traveling in the game about things and there are those freaked that they will have their acct hacked into now. Sorry but I don't believe anyones acct was hacked. He can play this off all he wants to but its obvious it wasn't and he has way to many accts so he can play this "game". Besides if someone was hacking accts there would be others here that had it happen or in the game (and aren't this person and his many mules). *sigh*

everywhere i go people are freaking out and worried about their accounts getting hacked and their stuff stolen its really sad... :sad2:

Belle1997
06-22-2007, 04:49 PM
I think they should actully when they catch someone scamming take all their items and hold yard sales until all gone. 1 item per person/character. Make them reasonable amounts like a real yard sale.

Say inferno for 1000 credits
Sparrow hat 1000 credits
Stitch hat 1500 credits
etc etc

Well having never gotten into one of Hula's garage sales and knowing everytime she had one VMK crashed. And knowing that the very first in Would get the infernos or green flips I would hate to see VMK blow up as everyone on VMK tried to get into host game. And I have never made it into a host room before 45 :)

The auction I think is good because it rewards those who have played and have saved credits and still do not own rare. (Cough) like me (Cough) There are many rich people in VMK but I can see those people also giving credits to Mules. So may be it should be you can only win 3 times at one IP address. Now for a larger family might make it tricky.

Narnian_Princess
06-22-2007, 04:58 PM
I am just appalled to read this. :sad2: To think I was once about to make friends with this piece of pond scum... it's just-- oh my, it's appalling. No other word for it.

steamboatpete
06-22-2007, 07:46 PM
This is the worst scam I've seen since the English kid (also a DIS member, at least at the time) stole all that stuff by buying it on eBay with hacked PayPal accounts.

aengus
06-22-2007, 07:58 PM
There was a great point Kelsie brought up earlier, that I would like to mention at this point again.

We sure would like to keep this thread open, just remember to follow DIS guidelines when responding to this thread. Names in particular!

Having said that. Yup, I am still ENRAGED! I saw another thread posted earlier that made me even more MAD! Apparently we should beleive a scammer is ACTUALLY a victim!

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

I was born on day 1 not yesterday!

valeriesunshine
06-22-2007, 09:16 PM
Has anybody else noticed he is using a pervious account that has the title he uses on the Disboards? He has this room offer for inferno and he is wearing a Stitch hat -_- He said he was framed blah blah blah

rickyratsmom
06-22-2007, 09:39 PM
Yes, we know, but more importantly VMK knows, at least Lily does...

pinkgalYall
06-22-2007, 09:42 PM
Framed over 100 times, by the looks of the rooms. I was talking too him yesterday, and yes, I know it was actually him. The point of vmk is not the rare, but to get away from the real world and feel the disney magic.

aengus
06-22-2007, 09:57 PM
I have faith in the outcome. Nothing comes fast in VMK. BUT I do hope vmk investigates this fully and that we dont only see one "BYE BYE" its time to break up this gang.

They can contact me if they would like to know who the others are ;)

I know they need more proof, but I can give them a good start of logs they should review ;)

astrostan
06-22-2007, 10:03 PM
I went into his inferno offer room and I was just stating that it was weird that someone took eight stitch hats and left all the rare. Guess who got booted? Me! not surprised though

PopStar
06-22-2007, 10:08 PM
Yes i'm in there too. I saw you, astrojordan, and WDWspirit. I've been taking lots of screenies! I'll go through them later! :thumbsup2

mking624
06-22-2007, 10:13 PM
I've pretty much remained silent except for maybe once or twice (never addressing the person in question). Mainly just been taking a lot of screen shots. I did get one that made me roll my eyes when he said he needed to get a 5 star spooky by the end of tonight. Hmmm....

astrojordan
06-22-2007, 10:22 PM
it was funny i was in his room early today and he left but some other people started to say how nice and not guilty he is and i said " what is your favorite animal? " and nobody said any thing then i said " mine is a done.key " i thought it was so funny!

astrostan
06-22-2007, 10:27 PM
Yes i'm in there too. I saw you, astrojordan, and WDWspirit. I've been taking lots of screenies! I'll go through them later! :thumbsup2
Yeah, i am so mad that he would do that. But again i am not surprised.

I've pretty much remained silent except for maybe once or twice (never addressing the person in question). Mainly just been taking a lot of screen shots. I did get one that made me roll my eyes when he said he needed to get a 5 star spooky by the end of tonight. Hmmm....

Yeah i was watching that closely but i burst and started making him nervous.

whs_singingrose
06-22-2007, 10:33 PM
I'm in the room..

Did he seriously just ask what a ride-a-thon was?

mking624
06-22-2007, 10:35 PM
I'm in the room..

Did he seriously just ask what a ride-a-thon was?
Oh I just realized that was you! Doing a friend request. :)

whs_singingrose
06-22-2007, 10:42 PM
I'm having lots of fun being silent and taking lots of pics. :)

macntosh
06-22-2007, 10:48 PM
i will be sure to wave.

PopStar
06-22-2007, 11:01 PM
Woot Woot! Go You!!!! Lol

cat_herder
06-22-2007, 11:15 PM
Send the mule names to me please.

I had a small scam this past week, I guess it is my fault as I didn't pay attention. I traded a flag hat for a set of tron teleporters. I asked him if they matched and he said yes, but they don't. I wrote down his name.

rosesredrosered
06-22-2007, 11:18 PM
LOL, here is quite funny evidence of more of his mules.



http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w216/redrose11400/Mule.jpg



By the way, this is in one of his rooms.

Comic_Green
06-22-2007, 11:19 PM
You can always check if porters match by clicking on one of them... if the other flashes they match, if it doesnt flash - they dont ;)

gshawen
06-22-2007, 11:21 PM
Somebody please PM me the names of his mules, Thx.

whs_singingrose
06-22-2007, 11:26 PM
Hey Red Rose,
I'm the one in the Blizzard Beach shirt and bird on the pirate stools

cat_herder
06-22-2007, 11:34 PM
i agree with you mal, everything should go on sale for a day and everyone could go crazy buying it so there wouldn't be so much scamming. i am going to start taking screen shots too.

Sadly vmk would crash and be down all that day from people trying to buy everything. Make it a week sale.

Or better 5 rare things for one week, then 5 new rare things the next week, so on and so on. That way people have time and credits to buy things.

I suggested this over a year and a half ago and was laughed off of DIS.
*NOW* everyone wants the rare to go on sale, LOL Just too funny.
Guess I'm just before my time.

rosesredrosered
06-22-2007, 11:38 PM
I suggested this over a year and a half ago and was laughed off of DIS.
*NOW* everyone wants the rare to go on sale, LOL Just too funny.
Guess I'm just before my time.

LOL, it just shows how wise you are! :)

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-22-2007, 11:44 PM
I have learned my lesson. Never treat people unfair

I'm not posting on this thread again.

I feel terrible for saying these things about <name remove>
I am NOT Defending anybody. I just feel terrible, Although the facts may add up to him. Maybe it wasn't..

Roller Coaster Gal
06-22-2007, 11:50 PM
Oh he will get his someday he booted me for saying ' (name) i hope you are happy for ruining the disney magic ' he also booted Aengus, here are some pics i took.

Aengus showing him who's boss and look at all his magic:

(picture removed :) )

Aengus right before he got the boot:

(picture removed :) )

EDIT: If pictures need to be taken out because of the name showing, that's ok with me.

aengus
06-22-2007, 11:52 PM
I have learned my lesson. Never treat people unfair

I'm not posting on this thread again.

I feel terrible for saying these things about <name remove>
I am NOT Defending anybody. I just feel terrible, Although the facts may add up to him. Maybe it wasn't..

wow... I can appreciate you wanting to believe someone.

But wow the proof is OVERWHELMING! how could they take his account and not his flips or all the stuff in that room????

PurpleDucky
06-22-2007, 11:53 PM
I have too many pictures for my own good of this -_-

whs_singingrose
06-22-2007, 11:54 PM
:rotfl2: He tried to sat he traded a 5 star eye pin and stitch for inferno!:rotfl2:

Comic_Green
06-22-2007, 11:55 PM
Anyway,
PLEASE do not confuse Comic_Green with any of the other 'Comic_'s, I have been playing for 7 months and earned all of my things genuinely and have screenshots and FRIENDS (whom I traded to back this up).
Some other the other Comic_'s have been playing a lot less, and some of you are confusing me with this scammer. All day Ive been asked questions and had insults saying that Im a scammer and lots of other things.

I wish people would get all the facts before charging in as it is very stressful for those wrongly placed on the receiving end. Im tired, I really am.

While some of the rumours may be true, those about me being a scammer most certainly are not ;)


Thank you.

PurpleDucky
06-22-2007, 11:58 PM
Now he's blaming Shadow for telling King_Crayon to steal his flips or inferno. I forgot which one.

Comic_Green
06-22-2007, 11:59 PM
Rofl - This story gets even stranger 0_0

mking624
06-23-2007, 12:04 AM
OMG...he booted ShadowKittyKat, and then said she was the reason his flips were stolen in the first place! I cannot believe he tried to place her as a scammer!!

cat_herder
06-23-2007, 12:04 AM
Oh, and do you notice that he's still wearing a nice, expensive, and rare green explorer's suit?

Is green explorer's suit rare? woot I got rare. :lmao:

aengus
06-23-2007, 12:06 AM
I would like to agree with what comic_green said. I do not have any indication that name had any involvement. Unless someone will provide proof I would personally appreciate it if the members here would not harrass him. remember, harrassing another player in vmk is against the values. Nobody should get themselves in trouble over this :)

peaceful protest my peeps ;)

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-23-2007, 12:12 AM
wow... I can appreciate you wanting to believe someone.

But wow the proof is OVERWHELMING! how could they take his account and not his flips or all the stuff in that room????


I dont know, it doesn't make sense, but maybe they didn't even know. Maybe they were in a hurry.

They're are probably so many explanations.

Im not going to take sides Anymore.

So im sorry.

aengus
06-23-2007, 12:13 AM
taking no sides is perfectly acceptable, it just appears you are taking a side.

maybe I was mistaken sorry :)

timonrn
06-23-2007, 12:14 AM
Send the mule names to me please.

I had a small scam this past week, I guess it is my fault as I didn't pay attention. I traded a flag hat for a set of tron teleporters. I asked him if they matched and he said yes, but they don't. I wrote down his name.

Cat, my sister has a room just for those, called "Teleporters that don't match",:rotfl: I bet she'd take them off your hands LOL it is a hoot! We go in there every so often and try them out just for fun.........

Roller Coaster Gal
06-23-2007, 12:17 AM
Okay if this pic needs to be removed that's okay too:

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x106/rollercoastergal/vmkmagic.jpg

so if he was scammed, why does he have so much magic? @_@

mikeyandscoobyx2
06-23-2007, 12:19 AM
taking no sides is perfectly acceptable, it just appears you are taking a side.

maybe I was mistaken sorry :)

Ok i hope now everybody knows lol.. And last time posting on this thread lol.

IM NOT TAKING SIDES.

CCoasterRyan
06-23-2007, 12:20 AM
Being a trader for a LONG time, it's safe to say I know who it was and I have an idea of how many others are out there, but not saying names.

It's sad too. The trade world is no longer a safe place, no matter who you are.

aengus
06-23-2007, 12:23 AM
Ok i hope now everybody knows lol.. And last time posting on this thread lol.

IM NOT TAKING SIDES.

really? a picture is worth a thousand words @_@

whs_singingrose
06-23-2007, 12:25 AM
Ok i hope now everybody knows lol.. And last time posting on this thread lol.

IM NOT TAKING SIDES.

Really then why are you telling people to boot Giraffe?

ShadowKittyKat
06-23-2007, 12:36 AM
Wow they sure did get fired up at "everything in this room is cheap" :rolleyes:

I guess the only harm I did was turn *him* against all giraffes rofl. :confused3

I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ROSE, PINK, AND MY DAD FOR MAKING THIS POSSIBLE WOOT WOOT

valeriesunshine
06-23-2007, 12:38 AM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a385/harrypotter21/riserevl1.jpg -_- Sparrow Stitch and Flips

mking624
06-23-2007, 12:38 AM
Wow they sure did get fired up at "everything in this room is cheap" :rolleyes:

I guess the only harm I did was turn *him* against all giraffes rofl. :confused3

I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ROSE, PINK, AND MY DAD FOR MAKING THIS POSSIBLE WOOT WOOT

SWEET, I didn't realize that was you! I saw the name and thought, aww I love giraffes! :rotfl: I did a friend request on Cat's name.

Sorry you were treated badly by not only the one, but another as well. :sad2:

whs_singingrose
06-23-2007, 12:41 AM
Wow they sure did get fired up at "everything in this room is cheap" :rolleyes:

I guess the only harm I did was turn *him* against all giraffes rofl. :confused3

I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ROSE, PINK, AND MY DAD FOR MAKING THIS POSSIBLE WOOT WOOT

I didn't realize that was you! he was mean to you more than once tonight.

I can't believe some of the things he says!

valeriesunshine
06-23-2007, 12:41 AM
He keep saying to his friends:

"haha guess who?"
"haha its me ____"
He kept laughing for some reason..

mking624
06-23-2007, 12:45 AM
I guess the good out of all of this is that I've finally seen so many of you for the first time!! It's nice to finally have so many more Dis people on my friends list! :)

whs_singingrose
06-23-2007, 12:47 AM
I guess the good out of all of this is that I've finally seen so many of you for the first time!! It's nice to finally have so many more Dis people on my friends list! :)

I agree! I now have many of you on my friends list!