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Blumonkeyboy
06-21-2007, 10:58 AM
I have read several rumors about a JII facelift again, which suposidly will bring back Dreamfinder( YAY!) and restore the original glory of figment. Anyone able to confirm or deny? thx

doctorhead
06-21-2007, 11:56 AM
i have never seen the original w/ dreamfinder, but i would be open to seeing a change where they add him back in. i hope that they don't get rid of Eric Idle. that's the first version of Figment i ever saw. i'd hate to see it be replaced.

sistertrip
06-21-2007, 12:24 PM
What is dreamfinder? I wouldn't mind seeing Journey into Imagination be a little more exciting. It's cute as it is, but I feel like it could use a little something more.

ChrisFL
06-21-2007, 12:33 PM
What is dreamfinder? I wouldn't mind seeing Journey into Imagination be a little more exciting. It's cute as it is, but I feel like it could use a little something more.

Dreamfinder is a man, he was the original host of the ride along with Figment...one of the very few cast members with a full beard:

http://pages.prodigy.net/stevesoares/photos/DREAMFINDER.gif

crazy4wdw
06-21-2007, 12:48 PM
I have read several rumors about a JII facelift again, which suposidly will bring back Dreamfinder( YAY!) and restore the original glory of figment. Anyone able to confirm or deny? thx

There have been rumors floating around for the last several weeks that WDW may be planning another rehab of the Imagination Pavilion. The rehab would include a reworking of the 2nd floor ImageWorks. This info is speculative at this point as no formal announcement has been by either Disney or Kodak.

Mickey Rules
06-21-2007, 01:57 PM
I hope that they do change it because when I went on after not even knowing they changed it...I was...well really disappointed. I knew something was different when I saw red cars instead of the blue ones...Dreamfinder was the man...and this Figment is definately not as cool as the old Figment. Well maybe "cool" isn't the right word to use, but this Figment is not as involved...it's hard to explain...but everybody that went on the original knows what I mean...DISNEY!!! LISTEN UP!!!

Benjo
06-21-2007, 02:11 PM
Bringing back Dreamfinder would be terrific. This rumor has been around for a while now, but I hope it actually becomes true for Epcot's 25th Anniversary.

Blumonkeyboy
06-21-2007, 02:23 PM
Lets hope that the lyrics prove true A dream can be a dream come true, with just that spark, in me and you

YoHo
06-21-2007, 02:43 PM
What is dreamfinder? I wouldn't mind seeing Journey into Imagination be a little more exciting. It's cute as it is, but I feel like it could use a little something more.


I cannot imagine never having experienced the REAL Imagination attraction.


It's budget time at Disney. You're gonna hear a lot of rumors. 99% of them won't make it.

SpankyMcFoosh
06-21-2007, 02:55 PM
I really hope those rumors are true, and that they bring back the dreamfinder, I remember the original version of the ride from back when I was a little kid, now I'm 20 years old, and I'm glad they brought figment back, but it just isn't the same without the dreamfinder!!!!!!

mlggator
06-21-2007, 09:09 PM
Oh me too! I hope they bring him back. I loved the ride when it first came out. Then I went to Epcot after a long Disney break and it had totally changed. I was really disappointed and couldn't figure why they had changed it in the first place. Lets cross our fingers.

Michele

MarylandPirate
06-22-2007, 06:49 AM
I concur....the original was GREAT! :cool2:

ChrisFL
06-22-2007, 09:08 AM
I concur....the original was GREAT! :cool2:

Yes, the original was very well done and never seemed outdated at all...its still much better than today's...although today's version isn't bad...it isnt the same

Golf4food
06-22-2007, 10:20 AM
Yes, the original was very well done and never seemed outdated at all...its still much better than today's...although today's version isn't bad...it isnt the same

They should have just kept the old version and updated it the way they did IASM or POTC with new animitronics, new lights, a little cleanup, etc. But no... they had to gut the thing and turn it into crap. I have ridden the "new" version once and will never ride it again unless they change it back. Disney took my childhood, threw it on the ground, stomped on its head, peed on it, and threw it out with the trash all in the name of what? Getting some more "modern" digital videos in the ride instead of all the fun stuff that used to be there? Booooooooo!

The original JII ride was my favorite thing at Epcot growing up in the 80's. Now I we don't even visit the pavillion at all. We just scoff at it as we walk past and remember the good old days before it stunk. :mad: :guilty: :sad1:

thefirebuilds
06-22-2007, 12:34 PM
um, it's an amusement park ride.

i really dug figment when i was a little kid, but I also stuck twist ties in my nostril when i was a little kid. Can't you just go with it?

YoHo
06-22-2007, 12:55 PM
Did the twist ties make you feel magical? I used to stick the rabbit ears from the TV into the power outlet. That feeling was about the same as seeing the Monsters Inc Ride at DCA.

Disney took my childhood, threw it on the ground, stomped on its head, peed on it, and threw it out with the trash all in the name of what?

That bitter tastes good, like strawberry.
Reminds me of my general feelings towards George Lucas. May his goiter expand and envelope his head.

thefirebuilds
06-22-2007, 01:01 PM
I wonder if Figment was just like that little nemo ride at Epcot, that my perception of it at six years old was just that it was the best thing I'd ever seen. Not that it was an insane, epeleptic (sp?), convulsing acid trip. At 6 it probably was pretty awesome. When I revisit It's a small World I don't do it because it's awesome, I do it because it's awful and amusing at the same time.

Anyway, I digress. It entertains me that so many people complain about the stuff that never changes (norway movie, etc), and the other huge chunk can't handle any changes ever. Keep a diary of it, I bet it's the same people. The ones that make it so I can't buy a greeting card with a bunny joking about getting drunk.

Don't get me wrong, I love Disney World. It's a ton of fun, if anything it doesn't change enough, but figment was cool in the day, and it's ok now, it'll probably be cool in the future. I don't get this "best thing ever" to "awful train wreck" thing people see in minor to major adjustments to Amusement Park Rides

YoHo
06-22-2007, 01:11 PM
Journey into the Imagination was a fundimentally better designed attraction. It drew you into a story and made you interested in what was going on. Journey into YOUR Imagination is just a disconnected series of rooms with no real meaning.

Whether or not Imagination was some sort of pinnicle of Imagineering is I suppose up for debate, but it seriously was better then what we got in return. At least according to this fan that rode as an adult.

Having said all that. I would have been fine with a change and am always fine with changes if those changes are done in the spirit of good show with well thought out and well implemented design elements and imagineering concepts.

I miss Horizons, and I'm disappointed that such a fundimental to the park attraction hasn't been redone in some way, but if Mission: Space had actually been designed and built with good sound methodology and concepts and an eye towards the goals of Epcot, I wouldn't have minded nearly as much.

ChrisFL
06-22-2007, 02:09 PM
Its difficult to describe exactly WHY the original Imagination attraction is better, but I'll attempt it.

Ironically the original seemed to be more um, imaginative in how it described imagination. The new one has a slot machine, an upside down house, an eye chart, and many other relatively normal things. It does have a few unique touches and that prevents it from being completely boring.

The original was much more abstract and in some ways "out there"...there was the painting of scenes, the scary books and figment trying to keep monsters from escaping, and using nature and other scenes to come up with new ideas (Remember "But what about Science?").

Im actually having trouble describing the orignal ride as easily as the new one, but that might be why the original was better...you cant just say "oh it just has this and this", you have to experience it to really understand how different it was.

thefirebuilds
06-22-2007, 02:31 PM
That or it might be because it was almost 20 years ago...

Blumonkeyboy
06-22-2007, 02:38 PM
I understand how figment brings imagination in on the current ride, but without him it was Journey into YOUR Senses. OH OH OH better yet Journey Into your (LACK THERE OF) imagination

ChrisFL
06-22-2007, 02:41 PM
That or it might be because it was almost 20 years ago...

not even close, it was still open about 8 years ago IIRC

YoHo
06-22-2007, 05:06 PM
Around then. I know I rode the new one in 99 or 2000 and it had just had the added figment mods. Old one in 1996, so that was what 11 years ago.

All Aboard
06-22-2007, 05:53 PM
The original attraction closed in October, 1998. Having a discussion comparing the current attraction to the original is completely ridiculous. The turnstyles can do the talking. While the original did drop off in attendance, the current attraction NEVER attracted guests. It was a bomb from day one. Even the train wreck that is Gran Fiesta is attracting unknowing victoms right now.

YoHo's dead on. The original drew you into a story, a story about Dreamfinder and Figment venturing out in the universe in search of dreams, ideas, thoughts and IMAGINATION. Then, bringing it all back to the Dreamport. The current is what? Here's a toilet on the ceiling, here's an eyechart, how about skunk smell, you like that? We got more, just wait, here's a train coming...

Ask guests coming off the attraction, "so, what's it about?" Think anyone can answer that?

YoHo
06-22-2007, 06:33 PM
It's like those Imagineer that commercials on the Disney Channel, but in attraction form.

adabob
06-23-2007, 10:42 AM
There is a part of the ride that there is a bunch of Figments and they are figures and not screen chracters and that is what the original ride was

They need to put dreamfinder is i vagley remember is when i was young kid like 3

It should be changed to a Fantasyland ride
Great Thread

DizzneyDAnn
06-23-2007, 06:33 PM
I miss the old one, too. I went on it after not realizing they had changed it and was so sad. The first one was magical. They changed it a few times. didn't they. I think the version now is better than the middle one.

AmberLuvsWDW
06-23-2007, 10:18 PM
My DH will be thrilled if they change it back!! :cool1:

Bella the Ball 360
06-24-2007, 07:14 AM
The current ride is beyond boring. It is a good place to sit down and cool off but that is about it. While some on this post do not remember the older attraction I totally agree with those that do that it was a much better ride in terms of image and color. IMHO there are certain rides that make up the baseline of the park and provide some nostalgia.
Figment was, for all intents and purposes, the logo "Mickey" character for Epcot. Had they played their cards right they could have at this point in time shoved him down our throats in everything from movies and cereal to even band aids! They could have made a Sat cartoon series about his adventures with Dreamfinder and then a feature length movie a la Shrek etc. So in effect they killed a goose that would have laid a golden egg for them in light of the fact that they are trying to aligne rides, movies and merchandise to conner the market. With him just stuck in the middle of this ride perfoming stupid antics he is NOT that lovable. I wonder if they know HOW much they missed the boat on this one?

fightinfire21
06-24-2007, 11:24 AM
I hope that they if they do somthing that they add something to the upstairs of the pavillion. I can remember being up there on my first trip in 1996 and then we got to go up there last year on a behind the scenes tour last September. It is a real shame... all the old "toys" just sitting around up there. What a waste of space. They could really add somthing special to that area and give us somthing to spend an extra hour at while there.

manning
06-24-2007, 08:30 PM
um, it's an amusement park ride.

i really dug figment when i was a little kid, but I also stuck twist ties in my nostril when i was a little kid. Can't you just go with it?

I am probably having trouble going with it because I never stuck twist ties in my nostrils.:rolleyes1 :rolleyes1:duck:

manning
06-24-2007, 08:36 PM
Now if only they could do this, if it were possible

Hand you a pair of 3D glasses and have the whole ride be in 3D.

If that could be done, WOW!!!

YoHo
06-24-2007, 08:56 PM
I hope that they if they do somthing that they add something to the upstairs of the pavillion. I can remember being up there on my first trip in 1996 and then we got to go up there last year on a behind the scenes tour last September. It is a real shame... all the old "toys" just sitting around up there. What a waste of space. They could really add somthing special to that area and give us somthing to spend an extra hour at while there.

What's kinda sad about this is that by 1996, the upstairs portion had already been hit bad and wasn't anything near as good as it had been in the 80s and early 90s.

Blumonkeyboy
06-25-2007, 10:57 AM
The sad part is it will be hard to return it. 1 dreamcatcher was sold on Ebay and one is in Mousegears. then there is that the current Image works is where some of the ride was. In all the hardest would be dreamcatchers i think.

cherbear
06-25-2007, 02:18 PM
Now if only they could do this, if it were possible

Hand you a pair of 3D glasses and have the whole ride be in 3D.

If that could be done, WOW!!!

Actually, "that other park" that I don't like to mention has a 3D spiderman ride. It was neat.....but it's not DISNEY! So, it IS possible.

cherbear
06-25-2007, 03:15 PM
Now if only they could do this, if it were possible

Hand you a pair of 3D glasses and have the whole ride be in 3D.

If that could be done, WOW!!!

Actually, "that other park" that I don't like to mention has a 3D spiderman ride. It was neat.....but it's not DISNEY! So, it IS possible.

minnie61650
06-27-2007, 01:12 PM
I cannot imagine never having experienced the REAL Imagination attraction.

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It would be great if JII was revamped to follow the story line of the original JII.
I miss the original Figment. At least this one has Figment in it a lot more than the first redo. When Kodak sponsored the original Figment Disney signed a contract that the ride would be redone before the year 2000. For those of you never got to experience the original Figment or if you would like to relive it this is a great website.

http://figmentsimagination.com/

Here is an except from that website that explains why the Original Figment ride was Changed:

"It has been confirmed by a Disney source that the original Journey Into Imagination was closed due to a contract agreement between Kodak and Disney. The contract stated that JII was to be changed by the year 2000. The original JII, due to large amounts of projectors, sets, lighting and animatronics, was VERY expensive to maintain each year. JII was the most advanced attraction of its kind in the US when it opened in 1983. Even when it closed, the technology involved with producing the show was ahead of other theme park attractions. Many Imagineers were not at all happy about making the changes because they had fear that the new attraction would fail. Armed with a budget far less than they had to build the original JII, the replacement opened and the fans were not happy. WDI realized that mistakes were made but at this point, there is no physical way to return the attraction to its original state because of the way the building has been altered and the money that would be needed to do it is not there. The current budget to redo JIYI is still not enough to restore the magic we all miss. But we will be able to see Figment again! "




This excerpt is from this site:

http://waltdatedworld.bravepages.com/id37.htm

The chances of Figment making a full return looked bleak. Disney sold part of the ride props on eBay and used one of Dreamfinder's flying machines as a prop in the Mouse Gear store. Then the ride closed in the winter of 2002 for renovation and reopened in June of 2002 as Journey Into Imagination with Figment. While Eric Idle and the Imagination Institute are still featured, Figment has been added to every scene and a new version of One Little Spark is sung. Dreamfinder is still MIA but one of the lab office doors is now labeled as belonging to "Dean Finder".

stemikger
06-28-2007, 03:04 AM
The original was awesome and then when I went on the new one, I was so disappointed. It is cute, but nothing like the original. Hopefully they will bring it back to the way it was.

kileybeth
06-28-2007, 01:25 PM
funny, I rarely read on this board but was feeling a little lost about everything new hapening and out of the loop so thought I'd pop in. . .

mine & my 6 kids perspectives.

1st time to see Dreamfinder 1985, it was one of our favorite attractions (DH and I only)

took son to Disney ( 4years old) 1986 It was hands down his favorite Character, more so than lots of traditoinal ones. Also character interaction with Dreamfinder and his puppet Figment was awesome.

took second son (when he was 4 yrs old) to see Dreamfinder and Figment 1990, he loved the song and could still sing it today if you asked him I think

took third son in 1994 , think ride had been changed at this point, my older two flaberghasted , "that stunk" where did Dreamfinder go?

several more trips with younger kids (a daughter, some toddlers, older boys as well) when we went on last time at least Figment was back and a little of the fun lyrics but what a poor imitation and I agree no story line at all.

and who really wants to smell skunks for petes sake? give me coconut anyday!

so, yes it all changes but my littlest ones will never get to understand why their 25 year old brother still has a purple "dragon" in his collection! I even tried to buy them souvies at the exit gift shop and they just where not interested at all in Figment! so sad.

now tiki room changes? love it! :rotfl:

Barb
06-28-2007, 02:22 PM
While version #3 isn't nearly as awful as version #2 (which was just plain bad), it's entertaining. I loved the original and would welcome bringing some of that back, including the Dreamfinder.

Now if they could just figure out a way to bring back Horizons and World of Motion. :thumbsup2

alweg
06-28-2007, 03:07 PM
For those who don't have the point of reference from the original to today, you should really check out the old ride video that minnie61650 posted to:

figmentsimagination.com

Right at the very beginning of the ride, the Dreamcatcher story is told. Now when you watch the video, keep in mind that this long storytelling sequence is being played out while you're in a moving vehicle! If my memory serves, the entire ride was, and still is an omnimover so it never stops for loading or unloading (like several rides at Disney parks) They pull this amazing trick by having the first scene occur in a room that rotates with your group of vehicles. And a few seconds later, other vehicles have entered their own first scene room with the Dreamcatcher. There were 4 or 5 Dreamcatcher rooms rotating in a big circle. After the opening story was told, you then followed Figment through the rest of the ride.

The rest of the ride was pure magic as well. Now THAT was imagination in ride design! THAT was EPCOT!

ChrisFL
06-28-2007, 03:39 PM
For those who don't have the point of reference from the original to today, you should really check out the old ride video that minnie61650 posted to:

figmentsimagination.com

Right at the very beginning of the ride, the Dreamcatcher story is told. Now when you watch the video, keep in mind that this long storytelling sequence is being played out while you're in a moving vehicle! If my memory serves, the entire ride was, and still is an omnimover so it never stops for loading or unloading (like several rides at Disney parks) They pull this amazing trick by having the first scene occur in a room that rotates with your group of vehicles. And a few seconds later, other vehicles have entered their own first scene room with the Dreamcatcher. There were 4 or 5 Dreamcatcher rooms rotating in a big circle. After the opening story was told, you then followed Figment through the rest of the ride.

The rest of the ride was pure magic as well. Now THAT was imagination in ride design! THAT was EPCOT!

no, the ride does stop for loading and unloading now and I think it did back then as well, but they go 4 cars at a time

YoHo
06-28-2007, 09:38 PM
I'm pretty sure it did not stop for loading and unloading and that section being described is the load zone for the current ride.

TXTurtle
06-29-2007, 01:31 AM
What I don't get is the whole arguement that it can never "go back" to what it was because Dreamfinder's ride was sold/shoved into a store and the track layout changed. Okaaaay ... so what? So it wouldn't have the EXACT track as before. Eh. And last I checked Dreamfinder's ride wasn't some holy singular relic which was dropped from heaven. It was built. By people. The same way all new rides' parts were built. If they reeeeally wanted to change it back they wouldn't be held up by having to rebuild a prop piece. Say instead that after two tries they're tired of failing. Say that it was hugely expensive to run. Say anything except for those nonsensical excuses.

And, at least as far as I'm concerned, while a return to the old would be a HUGE improvement I'm fine with a rehabed ride that's the heir to the first. Ignorning the illegitimate cousins of the subsequent rehabs... that's the way the rehab NEEDS to go, recapturing the spirit of the old rather than just deciding that since we can't rebuild it we're not getting anything worth having.

ChrisFL
06-29-2007, 08:02 AM
looking at the videos on Youtube, even the queue was sooo much nicer in the old version than now, with the staircase open to view, up to Dreamworks and the nice painting on the wall.

I was 4 or 5 the first time I went on the original ride, so when you're that young you tend to take it for granted, seeing it every year after that, but looking back is when I realize how much went into making that ride and how much is lacking now.

sskipper2
06-29-2007, 04:50 PM
Really agree TXTurtle. The company easily has the funds to do a rehab that can restore the cute, touching spirit of the original. Without repalcing the track or altering the pattern. New scenes using more easily maintained technologies could be used to recreate the "feel" of the old ride. Remember with all Disney can do right on REHABS, and the fact that imagineers are members of these forums thier is hope. I would expect to see a few more Animatronic scenes but not a lot. With the tech that got used in Nemo & Friends available and relatively cheap to maintain interaction with the guest could bring Figment and DF back in a very good way. My hope is they finally learn to set the sound system and audio to reasonable levels so I dont have my 4 yr old trying to hide from all the loud sounds. Thought?

thefirebuilds
06-29-2007, 04:56 PM
Really agree TXTurtle. The company easily has the funds to do a rehab that can restore the cute, touching spirit of the original. Without repalcing the track or altering the pattern. New scenes using more easily maintained technologies could be used to recreate the "feel" of the old ride. Remember with all Disney can do right on REHABS, and the fact that imagineers are members of these forums thier is hope. I would expect to see a few more Animatronic scenes but not a lot. With the tech that got used in Nemo & Friends available and relatively cheap to maintain interaction with the guest could bring Figment and DF back in a very good way. My hope is they finally learn to set the sound system and audio to reasonable levels so I dont have my 4 yr old trying to hide from all the loud sounds. Thought?

I agree, the noise in most of these rides is insane.

On your first point though, the face lift, I anticipate many on this board stating Disney took the "cheap way out."

King Triton
06-30-2007, 12:18 AM
We definitely need Dreamfinder back again! :cheer2:

The first version of the ride was perfect! What were they thinking changing it? :confused3

This is GREAT news if they plan on bringing back Dreamfinder. :cool1:

poober25
07-02-2007, 12:28 AM
The old ride only stopped for loading/unloading wheelchair accessible cars when needed. I know this because in '85, my mom had to use a wheelchair in the parks.

SueM in MN
07-02-2007, 10:35 AM
no, the ride does stop for loading and unloading now and I think it did back then as well, but they go 4 cars at a time
Chris is correct. The ride always stopped for loading and still stops now. It's not a long stop, but they need to stop it so that 4 cars can all be loaded and ready to go at the same time.
Each 4 cars is a mini-theater and views the scene together. That was more obvious in the old version because you could actually see the 'walls' of your theater at some points. As you moved thru the scenes, you stayed with the same cars. In that way, it worked sort of like Caroussel of Progress, but on a smaller scale and your ride cars were moving along with the scene, not sitting in one spot and only moving at the end of a scene like in Progress. Like was already pointed out, it was a very complex attraction.

They sometimes stopped a little longer to load guests with wheelchairs, but it always stopped. The only advantage I can see of the new version compared to the old version is that the old one did not have a wheelchair accessible ride car; anyone who wanted to ride it had to transfer out of their wheelchair. The new version does have a wheelchair accessible car that a wheelchair can be loaded right into. Many of the CMs are so adept at doing it that the ride doesn't pause any longer for loading/unloading wheelchairs than it does for other guests.

The old version was one of our favorite Epcot attractions. One of the articles I read about it said it actually was based on (and told the story of) the theories of how imagination works - one little spark starts of process of imagining, which goes on from there. That was what made the attraction interesting - the 'sparks' from the ride started your own imagination brewing. Thanks for the link - I loved watching it again.

agnes!
07-05-2007, 10:26 AM
Did the twist ties make you feel magical? I used to stick the rabbit ears from the TV into the power outlet. That feeling was about the same as seeing the Monsters Inc Ride at DCA.



That bitter tastes good, like strawberry.
Reminds me of my general feelings towards George Lucas. May his goiter expand and envelope his head.

:lmao:
agnes!

Cinderellabride
07-06-2007, 02:51 AM
Bring back the original. I am 22, and I have been to Disney World almost every year of my life. I love Figment, but it is just not the same. It used to be one of my favorite rides and I remember I was there with my dad when they changed it the first, I was very upset I remember calling my mom and telling her how awful it was. Then I heard they brought back Figment, I was very excited, only to find out it was not at all the same and still mostly sucked. My fiancee who is 24 had gone once when he was 9 and he loved Figment too, we went this January and he was very dissapointed. We are, however, having a Figment Martini Bar during cocktail hour at our Disney themed wedding (because the cocktail hour room is the Epcot room, and when you have too many Martini's everything becomes a Figment of your imagination). Sadly, many people we tell this too respond with "what's figment?" We are taking some of these people on a grand gathering with us in August YAY!! so they will be introduced to Figment, but I know they will never have the same appreciation we have for him. I say I don't care how much it costs, BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL!! Disney should really stop getting rid of classics and replacing them with things that suck...but that's a whole other post.

:figment: :figment: :figment: :figment: :figment:

Tinker_
07-06-2007, 12:49 PM
Hmmmm... great thread!

I actually talked to Dan Dillion about this (he is an Imagineer) and he said that if he could change ANYTHING at WDW, it would be JII. To me, that says a lot. He said he would rather see Disney put a good amount of money into fixing some of the old stuff that got REALLY screwed up than add another "space ranger ride at MGM".

Twingle
07-06-2007, 07:10 PM
Love this thread! The original JII was amazing, and apparently I'm not the only one that thinks so. Made a huge impression, especially for so many of us to remember the original and still want it all this time.

I don't remember Horizions (refresher someone? or a link?), but I LOVED the singing veggies in the Land where Soarin is now. Kitchen Cabaret maybe?

As long as they never, ever bring back Captain EO, I'm good.

littlebigdog
07-06-2007, 10:09 PM
I also wish they would bring back the original JII. That was my absolute favorite out of all of the original Epcot attractions. Don't get me wrong, I miss Horizons and some of the others as well, but this was my personal favorite and I really wish they could restore it back to the original ride.

Wish2BinWDW
07-07-2007, 08:26 PM
The original was wonderful. We loved going on it and loved the smells in the different areas. I miss the first Imagination ride. :sad1:

Taqwus
07-07-2007, 08:39 PM
I wish they would bring it back. I saw it shortly after Epcot opened, back when Horizons, Communicore and all the original rides where there.
We liked it so much we had fugment beach towels, I really miss those towels

cherbear
07-09-2007, 11:50 AM
Love this thread! The original JII was amazing, and apparently I'm not the only one that thinks so. Made a huge impression, especially for so many of us to remember the original and still want it all this time.

I don't remember Horizions (refresher someone? or a link?), but I LOVED the singing veggies in the Land where Soarin is now. Kitchen Cabaret maybe?

As long as they never, ever bring back Captain EO, I'm good.

I don't remember Horizons, but I know it existed at some time. The singing fruits and vegetables was a show called "Food Rocks" and I remember really enjoying it as well. I was very young but the adults in my family liked it, too.

minnie61650
07-09-2007, 01:40 PM
I don't remember Horizons, but I know it existed at some time. The singing fruits and vegetables was a show called "Food Rocks" and I remember really enjoying it as well. I was very young but the adults in my family liked it, too.

Just an FYI

The Kitchen Kabaret audio-animatronic show was introduced on Oct. 1st, 1982 when Epcot first opened.

The Opening date of Food Rocks was 1994.
Closing date January 3, 2004 .

Have fun at Disney!:wizard:

dunnhorn
07-09-2007, 09:12 PM
I can't believe they are bringing back the time traveler! I wonder if they are recreating him, or getting him out of Disney Storage.:confused3

cherbear
07-10-2007, 11:27 AM
Just an FYI

The Kitchen Kabaret audio-animatronic show was introduced on Oct. 1st, 1982 when Epcot first opened.

The Opening date of Food Rocks was 1994.
Closing date January 3, 2004 .

Have fun at Disney!:wizard:

Wow! Thanks for the trivia. Never heard of it....that's the year I was born! :confused3 So, am I understanding that they updated and changed the name of Kitchen Kabaret, or was Food Rocks a completely different attraction?

Also worth mentioning is "If You Had Wings" which I don't really remember b/c I was too young, but my Mom knows the song! She really misses that ride. It opened in 1982, changed to the rather unwelcomed "If You Could Fly," which ultimately closed in 1989. I did a search for the dates.

If only Disney could keep adding on new attractions without having to get rid of the old ones---with the exception of Stitch's Great Escape, of course :sick: . Bring Alien Encounter back, PLEASE!

daber
07-10-2007, 12:51 PM
So, am I understanding that they updated and changed the name of Kitchen Kabaret, or was Food Rocks a completely different attraction?

Same idea, but totally different attraction. Kitchen Kabaret was hosted by Bonnie Appitite (think June Cleaver) and had audio anamatronic foods singing mutated songs about nutrition. There was a rendition of Bugle Boy of Company B about a Bagel Boy, Ham and Eggs did a vaudeville comedy routine, but the most memorable was the Collinder Combo with their song Veggie Veggie Fruit Fruit. If you have a copy of the Official Album of the Walt Disney World Resort sold during 2006, a snipitt is on disc 2 track 1.

Dizchic123
07-12-2007, 10:25 AM
:woohoo: omg, that would be great. They have changed that ride so many times. I loved the first one, hated the second one, but like this one. Does anyone know when this would be happening if infact it does get changed?:rolleyes:

WDWFan4Life
07-23-2007, 12:11 AM
I have heard that this is definitely happening, and that Dreamfinder will be back just as he used to be. I haven't heard about when it is suppose to be happening though and was wondering if anyone has any new information to report, since this is one thing that I am very interested in hearing about since the only time I was on the original was when I was 4.