How To Shoot: The Safari Ride

[MarkBarbieri]

This is the second of a series of posts focused on how to shoot different shows, attractions, rides, and events at Disney Theme Parks. The purpose is to help people learn how to shoot those things with their camera and what they can reasonably expect from their camera. If it works as well as I hope, it can also be a way for people to see what they might get for spending more money and learning time on different cameras.

On this forum, we run the gamut from cell phone cameras to high end DSLRs with rediculously large lenses. I'm hoping that we'll get a variety of posts from people with cameras in all ranges. Even if you feel that your photos don't measure up to what others have posted, please post some samples anyway. We're all at different levels of gear and skill and we can all learn from each other. A typical S3 user will probably learn more from your S3 shot than they will from Oblio's latest masterpiece.

Other posts in the series include:
How To Shoot: Fireworks (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1474329)
How to Shoot: Parades (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=20590733#post20590733)
How to Shoot: Indoor Shows (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=21446710#post21446710)
How To Shoot: Cinderella's Castle (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=21659094#post21659094)
How To Shoot: SpectroMagic (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1992784)
How To Shoot: Dark Rides (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2212739)

This ride provides great photo opportunities of animals in very wild looking settings with no screens or fences to shoot through. It's also kind of fun because of the challenges it presents. I've never really been excited by the shots that I've taken on this ride, so take my advice with several grains of salt.

The biggest challenge comes from motion. The jeep is almost constantly bouncing you and your camera. The jeep is frequently driving, so you are moving relative to your subject. As you track a subject, you also have to worry about other people or supports suddenly moving into your field of view. The animals are also pretty far away.

I think it's best to shoot the safari when there is plenty of light. The quality of light might be better late in the evening, but there might not be enough of it. Having more light helps you with two things - faster shutter speed and more DOF.

Normally when I shoot animals, I go with a very wide aperture to minize the DOF. With the Safari ride, I find that you often have to shoot so quickly that you don't always get the accurate focus that you need for a really shallow DOF shot. On the other hand, you need to keep that shutter speed up. If you go with too narrow of an aperture, you'll have to wait until the ride stops to take your shots.

I like to use a really long lens for this ride so that I can zoom in tight on the animals. The problem with that is that it exasperates all of the problems with motion. If you're using a long lens for magnification, you are magnifying camera shake, subject motion, and ride motion.

I'm not really sure what to do about IS. When you are moving, IS systems can make shots worse than if it isn't on at all. If you have an IS system that has a panning mode, that's probably the safest way to shoot. If not, I'd probably turn it off.

If you are using a heavy DSLR, be careful about holding the viewfinder right up to your eye. Sudden jolts on the ride can give you a real smack in the eye. I know this one from experience.

If you can't get a high shutter speed for some reason, try to take shots during those brief moments when the ride is stopped.

In addition to animal shots, you can sometimes lean out and get good shots of your kids/spouse/friends sitting in the seat beside you.

These shots were on a dim, overcast day. I think I set the ISO to 1600 and left the camera in Program mode so that it could make a reasonable effort at balancing shutter speed an aperture.

ISO 1600, 170mm (x1.3), f/5.6, 1/320
http://barbieri.smugmug.com/photos/117413786-M.jpg

ISO 1600, 98mm (x1.3), f/6.3, 1/250
http://barbieri.smugmug.com/photos/117413798-M.jpg

[tinksdad]

I've never really been excited by the shots that I've taken on this ride, so take my advice with several grains of salt.

The biggest challenge comes from motion. The jeep is almost constantly bouncing you and your camera. The jeep is frequently driving, so you are moving relative to your subject. As you track a subject, you also have to worry about other people or supports suddenly moving into your field of view. The animals are also pretty far away.


This is exactly my thoughts coming away from the experience. Great "ride" but things are fast paced and you are never sitting in the best seat of the shot you think might work (at least I never have).

Totally agree with keeping the shutter speed high as possible. I tried to zoom in and with the truck movement things went badly as far as the framing goes. If you zoom out a bit, then crop the results might be more pleasing.

In our experience, early mornings the animals are more active than in the heat of the day.

Here a couple of my less than exemplary results:
1/250, f/5.6 at 200.0 mm
http://www.dkeddy.phanfare.com/show/external/174832/223479/10213379/file.jpg

1/320, f/4.2 at 36.0 mm

http://www.dkeddy.phanfare.com/show/external/174832/223479/10213394/file.jpg

[matthew_hull]

My experience is similar to others in that I've never been especially pleased with the results of my efforts. In the case of taking photographs while on the Kilimanjaro Safari ride, I think it is important to manage your expectations. To be blunt, I mean lower them.

That said, in addition to the excellent tips mentioned beforehand, I would add to not even try to get close shots or creatively framed scenes. There's too much going against you. Instead, shoot wide and then crop the photos with software when you get home. Take lots and lots of frames. You cannot wait for the possibility that the animal might turn its head for a more pleasing shot. Take the shot now, and if it turns its head, take that too. Cull the photos later when you get home.

http://members.cox.net/matthew_hull/scratch/safari_giraffe.jpg

http://members.cox.net/matthew_hull/scratch/safari_gazelle.jpg

[scoolover]

I must agree about the motion. It does make for some tough shots. These were taken with the Rebel XT and a 70-300 lens. The lion was later cropped.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/scoolover/IMG_1309.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/scoolover/IMG_1323.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/scoolover/IMG_1304.jpg

[MarkBarbieri]

The lion was later cropped.

Boy, I'll say. He appears to have been cropped out entirely. ;)

[wkrider]

This is by far the best photo that I have taken at Animal Kingdom. I had a slight advantage though,,,,it was during the early morning tour when the animals were all awake and the vehicle would stop for photos...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c357/wkrider281/lion.jpg

[scoolover]

Boy, I'll say. He appears to have been cropped out entirely. ;)


Hey, what can I say. It's early. :) Can't tell you what I was thinking on that one. :coffee:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/scoolover/IMG_1317.jpg

Ah, thats better.
Scott:rotfl:

[tinksdad]

This is by far the best photo that I have taken at Animal Kingdom. I had a slight advantage though,,,,it was during the early morning tour when the animals were all awake and the vehicle would stop for photos...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c357/wkrider281/Misc%20Web%20Posts/Lion.jpg

Without a doubt!! Great shot!! :thumbsup2






except that date stamp on the bottom........... :rolleyes1 :rotfl2:

[garris3404]

I have a Nikon D50 with the 18-200 VR lens. You need to set the VR correctly or you'll get lousy pictures. As mentioned earlier, set your camera settings before you start, shoot wider, and shoot often. I've had pretty good success early in the morning (first or second truck).

The best advice I will give is to sit in the back row with only 1 or 2 people. I sat in the last row with my just my wife. It gives you more room to shoot from the side, and more importantly, turn around and shoot to the rear.

[Steve's Girl]

I agree that where you sit is important. My first experience on this ride, I was sitting on the left side of the vehicle and was able to get some pretty good photos. The next time, I was sitting on the right side and was not able to get very many photos at all. Most of them had someone's head, or a rail from the vehicle in them.

Nikon's VR has an active mode which I assume is the same as panning mode and it works pretty good. However, it isn't a miracle worker and some of the photos are simply going to be blurred from the bouncing around in the vehicle.

[matthew_hull]

This is by far the best photo that I have taken at Animal Kingdom. I had a slight advantage though,,,,it was during the early morning tour when the animals were all awake and the vehicle would stop for photos...
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c357/wkrider281/Misc%20Web%20Posts/Lion.jpg

It is still a fabulous shot. Beautiful light. I was in the exact same tour, and for us we were privileged to see one of the lionesses take an interest in us. I fired away like a madman, and made the mistake of trying to frame too tightly. Afterwards, I wished that I had zoomed out wider, since many shots had the feet or ears cut off. I had the 100-400mm telephoto zoom. Anyway, this is a severe crop of the best frame. I was never able to get the noise-reduction software (Neat-Image) to improve the high-ISO noise on the fur without making it look fake, and I am reasonably familiar with the program -- so, excuse the noise. Since it was early morning, there was no real sun yet, and I cranked up the ISO to allow for better shutter-speeds.

BTW, have you considered cropping your shot as a portrait? It might be a more powerful presentation with more grass and sky and less brush.

http://members.cox.net/matthew_hull/scratch/lioness_db.jpg

[donaldduck1967]

Here are some I took in Oct 06. I can't remember where I was sitting when I took them. They were taken around 3:30 - 4:00. I had the camera set to Aperture Priority

f/4 1/250 sec @ 40mm ISO - 100
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n144/ddpmacho/2006/Animal%20Kingdom/PA241824.jpg

f/4.1 1/400 sec @ 92mm ISO - 100
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n144/ddpmacho/2006/Animal%20Kingdom/PA241828.jpg

f/4 1/640sec @ 48mm iso-100
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n144/ddpmacho/2006/Animal%20Kingdom/PA241831.jpg

[SharonLowe]

Try to take one of the additional safaris offered if you want really good shots. We're just back from our trip - did the Sunrise Safari (must be staying at the AKL Concierge to do that one) followed by the Wildlife Discovery Excursion. I will post some shots from both when I get time.

As others have said, setting your camera in advance is a good idea. A good deal of the ride is in the shade so an ISO of 400 is reasonable. This is probably a good time to use shutter priority too since you want to make sure you have a reasonable shutter speed. Also, I recommend not zooming in too much. Also, take advantage of those times when the animals block the road. While we were on the Excursion (you follow the ride route mostly but veer off and park places to have time to photograph), there were several times the ride vehicles were stopped for animals in the path. Probably happens most in the am, as the animals are leaving their barns; and then later in the day, when they are heading back.

[Experiment_626]

We rode the safari this past weekend, and I only got a few usable shots, as always. While I really appreciate Disney's attention to detail, I think the one place I could have done with a little less of it is on this ride -- specifically, the roadbed they created. I'll bet this ride is one of the most photo-centric on property for lots of people, even those who normally aren't aiming a camera everywhere. The rough road may give a more authentic experience, but I'd pass on some of the realism to get better photos. There were many points at which all the high ISO, fast shutter speeds and wide apertures in the world would have been for naught, as I couldn't even keep a subject in the viewfinder for all the bouncing around. I felt like I was on Primeval Whirl -- except that I've gotten better photos on that!

SSB

[drcandon]

Like everyone, I have tried to get decent shots on this ride more then once..the best seat I have found is in the back row - left side..most folks crowd to the front rows..the problem getting in the back row of course is the Disney CM..who balances the load..the best you can do is show them the camera and ask them for the back row...you might have to wait for a another jeep to come around...I hate shooting in the mid day..usually the animals are at rest, but at least then you can keep the ISO high and aperture at a decent level for DOF...

We are going to try the Sunrise Safari ( we are staying at AK in December - CC level) and I will post my findings then...from what I understand the CM drivers go slower, stop for photos - and of course being early in the morning the animals are active...that is both good and bad..now you have to have a decent shutter speed..

[DizzyV6P]

All of these were taken w/ the Canon 40D and 70-200 F/4 L
I usually have too many to post, so here's a few from my last trip this past June.

http://rwcphotography.zenfolio.com/

Click on the Safari pics.

Animals blocking the road? Never!
http://images39.fotki.com/v1225/photos/5/54353/6400543/IMG_5900-vi.jpg

[YesDear]

I have always considered the Safari Ride pictures a combination of luck, luck and more luck. You have to be on the correct side and location of the vehicle for a particular animal.

I agree that you need to be prepared. I like my 18-200 because I can select a wide range of pictures quickly. I also will take several pictures at a time and cull them later.

We are doing the Sunrise Safari in September and I cannot wait! I am taking a 10.5 and a 70-200 and lets see what I get!

[NaeNae]

subbing

[clearskies]

I don't really have anything more to offer on KS other that what has already been said here. It is a
tough ride for photography and though it provides other entertainment value (perhaps) it is not conducive
for those interested in photographing animals. Given the fact that I am not sure there is much
more to suggest on this thread I figured I would suggest another tip for some Disney area travelers
interested in "safari" pictures. I realize that this is not at all following the intention of this thread
and thus I apologize in advance to those who may think this is not an appropriate response. My
motivation is nothing other than to hopefully provide useful information to members of this community.

On our last Disney trip, our family took a day and went to Busch Gardens in Tampa (a little more
than an hour away). We found that the animal experience is much better there (Note, we still
think the Disney parks blow any other park out of the water with respect to the total experience). BG
has a "safari" train ride where you can get real close to animals and get some good shots. There
are other animal attractions as well but I am only addressing the "safari" train here.

I am posting some shots not for their photographic quality but rather to demonstrate the
proximity that you can get to the animals. I am keeping these uncropped to give a representation
of the distance and I am listing the focal length. Bear in mind that my camera has a 1.6 crop
factor by nature so you can factor that in.

1. 118mm
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x236/clearskiesnj/bg1.jpg

2. 135 mm
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x236/clearskiesnj/bg2.jpg

3. 200 mm
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x236/clearskiesnj/bg3.jpg

4. 200mm - I asked but she wouldn't turn around
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x236/clearskiesnj/bg4.jpg

5. 100mm
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x236/clearskiesnj/bg5.jpg

We still love AK and will be going there our next trip and I will brave the KS while sacrificing the self
inflicted pain of repeatedly pounding my camera + zoom lens into my face as I try mostly in vain to get a few
decent shots. We will also probably venture to BG again as well.

Please note that I realize there are plenty of other venues to see animals and of course you can hit up
a local zoo or something to get good animals pics as well. I am just attempting to provide a WDW traveler
another animal park/theme park option that some may not know about and is in the area (somewhat). I know
it is not feasible for many and I also do not want to get into a debate on comparing parks here. If you
do have a question on BG for me I would ask that you don't post it here. You can certainly PM me though.
We had the worst weather day of our trip there so we did not see everything but I would be happy to share my
experiences.

Oh, DizzyV6P, great shot of the Rhino. I have been on KS 3 times and never been able to get a good view of
the Rhino let alone get a picture of it. Thank you. Now I know what it looks like. :thumbsup2

[zackiedawg]

It's never easy to get good shots during the safari ride - the bumpy movement of the truck, constant motion, hiding animals, heads and cameras of your fellow tourists getting in the way...it's a challenge for sure. The faster response and focus time of a DSLR will usually help out in getting the shot just before the tree gets in the way or the guy's head to the right moves into frame. The key for me as mentioned in the original post is shutter speed. Using either S priority, or if your camera has a mode that will choose a set range of faster shutter speeds, and raising ISO as needed to get the right exposure, would be my method. I always use a decently long lens - and have had some success with both advanced P&S cameras and DSLRs. Some form of image stabilization will help a little, and good timing and a pinch of luck always helps. Sitting on the left tends to be best for the majority of the shots, and I personally prefer sitting in the first row behind the driver...I find there are less axle-hop related bumps compared to the back, and there is some additional forward range of shooting just past the cab.

Here are some examples of my better results on that ride:

These are all DSLR - using a 1.5x crop camera with an 18-250 F3.5-6.3 lens:

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/103154267.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/103154263.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/103154273.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/103154278.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/103154284.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/103154286.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/103154289.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/103154293.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/103154295.jpg

Here are some examples with an advanced P&S ultra-zoom camera, with a 36-432mm equivalent lens and image stabilization:

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/92512770.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/92512775.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/94411575.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/94411578.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/94641576.jpg

[JR6ooo4]

Canon rebel XT and Canon 70-300IS.
I got a few from our last trip. One thing that I think everyone should do to learn how to get better pictures on the KS ride...

http://mnmstudios.smugmug.com/photos/244840319_Y6AiM-L.jpg

http://mnmstudios.smugmug.com/photos/244841033_LWX5R-L.jpg

... more Disney trips to practice! Hehehehehee

Mikeeee

[dmccarty]

Getting on the back seat helps if you can sit there. The problem with the back seat is that you get tossed around quite a bit The front seat is a bit smoother. And not bad if you can get the "window" seat.

A zoom helps. Trying to get a big animal close to the vehicle one second and then a small critter far away can be frustrating.

Also trying to not fill the frame so you can crop later can help.

We took the Safari ride early one morning. I either did not have the right lens or I did not take the camera I can't remember. But the lion was roaring up on the hill and you see his breath. It would have made a great photo. Then we went by the big male elephant. We were pretty close. he turned his back to us. Then pooed and peed. :rotfl2: Rather impressed. :rotfl: I guess he was letting us know what he thought of us....

The elephant would require a pretty wide lens 24-35mm and the lion was needed at least a 180mm.

Maybe next time.

Funny thing is that we have been on the Safari ride three or four times in the last 12 months. At least twice we have had the same driver, they called him Bwanna Bob. He sounded just like Bawb. :lmao: Kinda looks like Bawb too.

Later,
Dan

[loopner67]

Wow.... some of you have gotten some seriously amazing pictures. I'm in awe.

I have to add a downside to sitting in the back. We had a driver who'd start to speed up after she saw an animal, so since we were at the back of the "car", by the time we got up to the animal, we were whizzing by. I missed a few animals and/or just couldn't get them in my sights before she accelerated. oy!

I also found it ten times harder to take pictures with my larger zoom lens on, but that is because I'm still learning.

[AbbyPan]

Subscribing ...these pics are amazing, please more, more!!!

[saturndb]

These are from my first try. Taken with a Nikon d80 and 18-200mm lens

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2980496784_cb5f666b43.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3165/2979605761_1e1cd0af24.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2980457794_cc55ee3587.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2979603677_200312f800.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2980467786_21df4229dc.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3221/2980460710_b5244946c5.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2980457794_cc55ee3587.jpg

I will say photographing the safari takes practice and some luck..

[clairemolly]

wow.. great photos.

sometimes the animals aren't the only interesting shots.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/jdeardorff/SQZdC_X4ibI/AAAAAAAAByw/7xqat_L_nKU/s576/DSC_7113-1.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/jdeardorff/SQZdDrhfAQI/AAAAAAAABy4/4B-ANNnzESg/s576/DSC_7098-1.JPG

Sometimes you get lucky have have the herd of giraffes block your path. Even the baby said hello to us.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/jdeardorff/SQZdEaP5KSI/AAAAAAAABzA/_94C5823Yt4/s576/DSC_7136-1.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/jdeardorff/SQZdFVoJsHI/AAAAAAAABzQ/qm33BAg13Io/s720/DSC_7147-1.JPG

3 times on the ride and this was my only sighting of the lion.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/jdeardorff/SQZdGazEiiI/AAAAAAAABzY/Mt_xxyusBXQ/s576/DSC_6880-1.JPG

Love the ride, but getting good ones is a combination of luck, luck, skill and more luck.

[WebmasterAlex]

When this ride first opened I thought I would get some AMAZING pictures and have faced the same challenges as everyone else.
If nothing else this is a great "I'm not as awful as I thought" support thread :)

[brack]

Mark thanks for the insights which are great as usual. The safari ride is one of my favorite places to shoot.

I know that you did not intend this as a "share your pics" thread but .... others did so here am I:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/brackjr/Sptember%202008/WDWSept2008389.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/brackjr/Sptember%202008/WDWSept2008388.jpg

I did not use my zoom on these two :eek:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b144/brackjr/Sptember%202008/WDWSept2008366.jpg

[disneygirlinnj]

Trying to participate more in the photography section of these boards and just stumbled upon all these tutorials! Great words of wisdom :) I jotted down a few notes for fireworks next month when I go!

Here are some of my favorite shots from the Safari when we went in '07. I was using my fathers Olympus E-300 that I borrowed for the trip. It was right before I bought my Rebel Xti.

f/4.5, 150 mm, ISO 400
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/2110862521_1fa5812d5b.jpg

f/4.3, 128 mm, ISO 100
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2065/2111640372_152aec047d.jpg

f/4.5, 150 mm, ISO 800
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2084/2111641108_d9a25d0625.jpg

f/4.5, 150 mm, ISO 400
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2062/2110862267_164592920f.jpg

f/4.5, 150 mm, ISO 800
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2174/2111640082_86d216088b.jpg

[tlhbdm]

Do you remember what shutter speed you had it at?
Trying to participate more in the photography section of these boards and just stumbled upon all these tutorials! Great words of wisdom :) I jotted down a few notes for fireworks next month when I go!

Here are some of my favorite shots from the Safari when we went in '07. I was using my fathers Olympus E-300 that I borrowed for the trip. It was right before I bought my Rebel Xti.

f/4.5, 150 mm, ISO 400
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/2110862521_1fa5812d5b.jpg

f/4.3, 128 mm, ISO 100
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2065/2111640372_152aec047d.jpg

f/4.5, 150 mm, ISO 800
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2084/2111641108_d9a25d0625.jpg

f/4.5, 150 mm, ISO 400
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2062/2110862267_164592920f.jpg

f/4.5, 150 mm, ISO 800
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2174/2111640082_86d216088b.jpg

[zackiedawg]

Cool to see this thread back up...I had forgotten about it. Since I haven't posted since October, and have been back 3 or 4 times since, I'll throw in my safari photos taken since my last post. All with Sony A300 & SAL18-250mm F3.5-6.3 lens. ISO was as low as 100 when possible, but in many cases require ISO400-800 to get enough shutter speed (the Bongos are particularly challenging as they are in extreme shade under heavy tree cover). My goal is to try to keep shutter speeds at 1/250 or faster if at all possible.

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/107208477.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/107208478.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/107208479.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/107208481.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/108793119.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609314.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609317.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609319.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609322.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609324.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609326.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609329.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609334.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609339.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609342.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/zackiedawg/image/113609344.jpg

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[tlhbdm]

Cool to see this thread back up...I had forgotten about it. Since I haven't posted since October, and have been back 3 or 4 times since, I'll throw in my safari photos taken since my last post. All with Sony A300 & SAL18-250mm F3.5-6.3 lens. ISO was as low as 100 when possible, but in many cases require ISO400-800 to get enough shutter speed (the Bongos are particularly challenging as they are in extreme shade under heavy tree cover). My goal is to try to keep shutter speeds at 1/250 or faster if at all possible.

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You took some awesome pictures! I have a cheat sheet that I am taking with me with what ISO, Apature, shutter speed, and zoom so I know how to take my pics since I am new to the DSLR world. Thanks for posting your pics.

[zackiedawg]

Thank you, and you're welcome. I'd definitely recommend aiming to keep shutter speed at 1/250 or better. If your camera allows you to set a shutter speed range, that would be a great way to go in Shutter priority mode. Otherwise, your camera may also have a 'sports' mode which can be quite useful if it allows user adjustments. I normally wouldn't recommend a scene mode on a DSLR, but with user adjustments, they can be as good or better than S or A priority. On my camera, I set to Sports mode - which sets the camera to continuous tracking focus, auto ISO between 100-800, minimum shutter 1/250 or higher, and auto aperture as needed. I adjust focus mode to spot, metering to center-weight, add -1/2 EV, and I'm ready to go. As I shoot, I can turn the jog wheel at front to override an aperture choice to control depth of field, and can manually override the ISO with the top control button without pulling my eye from the viewfinder, if I want to force a lower or higher ISO than the camera chooses.

BTW - I always recommend shooting with your eye to the viewfinder whenever possible - it's a much more stable way to shoot and keep the lens pointed at the subject from a moving vehicle. Just be aware of your surroundings, so you don't bump the lens into a roof pillar and give yourself a black eye! I've occasionally used Live View on my DSLR to shoot from the LCD, on the rare occasion when action was on the other side of the truck and there were too many heads in the way...but it is so much harder to hold a long telephoto lens steady on a subject from a moving platform with the camera held out at arm's length and viewing an LCD screen!

[disneygirlinnj]

Do you remember what shutter speed you had it at?

Oops...didn't realize I left that part out... I believe I had the camera set to aperture priority so the shutter was automatically set by the camera.

birds: 0.002 sec (1/640)
elephant: 0.001 sec (1/800)
rhinos: 0.003 sec (1/400)
lion: 0.001 sec (1/2000)

[tlhbdm]

Thank you, and you're welcome. I'd definitely recommend aiming to keep shutter speed at 1/250 or better. If your camera allows you to set a shutter speed range, that would be a great way to go in Shutter priority mode. Otherwise, your camera may also have a 'sports' mode which can be quite useful if it allows user adjustments. I normally wouldn't recommend a scene mode on a DSLR, but with user adjustments, they can be as good or better than S or A priority. On my camera, I set to Sports mode - which sets the camera to continuous tracking focus, auto ISO between 100-800, minimum shutter 1/250 or higher, and auto aperture as needed. I adjust focus mode to spot, metering to center-weight, add -1/2 EV, and I'm ready to go. As I shoot, I can turn the jog wheel at front to override an aperture choice to control depth of field, and can manually override the ISO with the top control button without pulling my eye from the viewfinder, if I want to force a lower or higher ISO than the camera chooses.

BTW - I always recommend shooting with your eye to the viewfinder whenever possible - it's a much more stable way to shoot and keep the lens pointed at the subject from a moving vehicle. Just be aware of your surroundings, so you don't bump the lens into a roof pillar and give yourself a black eye! I've occasionally used Live View on my DSLR to shoot from the LCD, on the rare occasion when action was on the other side of the truck and there were too many heads in the way...but it is so much harder to hold a long telephoto lens steady on a subject from a moving platform with the camera held out at arm's length and viewing an LCD screen!

Thanks for the info! I will try it in sports mode and see what happens. Fortunately I don't even have the option for live view mode(I have a Nikon D60). Thanks again!

Oops...didn't realize I left that part out... I believe I had the camera set to aperture priority so the shutter was automatically set by the camera.

birds: 0.002 sec (1/640)
elephant: 0.001 sec (1/800)
rhinos: 0.003 sec (1/400)
lion: 0.001 sec (1/2000)


Thanks!