Soarin' movie question...

[Mickey Rules]

Hi, I heard something a while back when Soarin' first came to EPCOT that if it is successful and stays they may change the movie from California to Florida scenery. Has anyone heard anything about this? What do you think about this? I love the scenes in this current ride, but it isn't Soarin' over California at WDW, it's just Soarin', I think it would make sense to change it, but I wouldn't mind either way...I think a nice WDW fly over would be nice but whatever. Thanks.

[I'mNoPrince]

I think they will change it after YOAMD or during the next Celebration. They even might do a East coast and not just Florida.

Riding through the everglades over an Airboat ,CherryBlossoms in DC ,Marthas Vineyards. The list could go on and on

[2Xited4Disney]

Someone made a "Florida" version of Soarin and put it on Youtube... It came out really good I thought

[G8RFAN]

Don't get me wrong, I love living in FL and between biking, camping, scuba diving thoughout the State, I know there are hours of interesting material to film. However, someone commented in an old thread that because FL is devoid of mountains, it would be boring and would not work. I guess this is partly true in that you definitely do NOT see unpowered hang gliders floating around these parts, so the basic theme would have to be "tweeked". Not sure how successful you could be to change it to make sense in flat FL.

[ChrisFL]

While there's been rumors of Soarin' changing for some time, I dont think any of the substantial rumors have anything to do with "Soarin' over Florida".

I've heard much more about either Soarin' over America or Soarin' over the world.

I dont think we'll see this concept end at just California.

[daber]

Soarin' around the World would make more sense given the World Showcase theme of the other half of the park.IMHO

[YoHo]

Don't get me wrong, I love living in FL and between biking, camping, scuba diving thoughout the State, I know there are hours of interesting material to film. However, someone commented in an old thread that because FL is devoid of mountains, it would be boring and would not work. I guess this is partly true in that you definitely do NOT see unpowered hang gliders floating around these parts, so the basic theme would have to be "tweeked". Not sure how successful you could be to change it to make sense in flat FL.

This is the upshot of that thread from a few months ago.

Of course, the more fundamental issue is that nobody is going to pay for this, so Disney isn't going to change it.

[adabob]

If you go on to You tube there is a video that i found (dont know what i put in ) but it is soarin over FL and it is so good that it is DInsey material so i wonder ??

HERE IT IS THE SITE IT IS GOOD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x86FXNPNXDc

[Golf4food]

Don't get me wrong, I love living in FL and between biking, camping, scuba diving thoughout the State, I know there are hours of interesting material to film. However, someone commented in an old thread that because FL is devoid of mountains, it would be boring and would not work. I guess this is partly true in that you definitely do NOT see unpowered hang gliders floating around these parts, so the basic theme would have to be "tweeked". Not sure how successful you could be to change it to make sense in flat FL.

That's how I feel. Not enough elevation variation in FL to make it interesting. That's part of the fun of Soarin' is the dips and rises from going over the hill and mountain scenes. Floating stationary with only small tilts and banks wouldn't be as fun.

They could make a new ride - Bikin' - and you could sit on individual stationary bikes and pedal while the screen takes you on a bike tour of Florida, haha.

I'd rather see a Soarin' the World or Soarin' the USA.

They could always "tweak" the ride mechanics and use it for a Greece pavillion ride - you could be Nike on a mission to deliver messages to the gods on Mt. Olympus, etc.

[Barbers2005]

They could make a new ride - Bikin' - and you could sit on individual stationary bikes and pedal while the screen takes you on a bike tour of Florida, haha.

You know, they have these at a gym near my house (not Florida, but a scenic bike ride). After trying them, I thought "man, I don't need a gym membership for this." I bought a stationary bike and watched tv at home.

About soarin, though- I think a film with more exotic destinations would be great. I was really disappointed in the movie aspect after all the hype. Dh and I agreed that it wasn't worth the wait and we won't bother next time.

[YoHo]

They used to have those at the Wonders of Life Pavilion. You pedaled and the screen would show you bicycling through Disneyland.

[Crazy Hakim]

Of course, the more fundamental issue is that nobody is going to pay for this, so Disney isn't going to change it.

I don't agree with this statement. Example, just about every two years they "change" Tower of Terror (we are currently on ToT4). It mostly generates new interest, and I can see them changing Soarin' after a few years just to restimulate it again. And, I have heard/read that they were filming above WDW in the past year for the alleged update.

[YoHo]

Changing ToT takes close to zero money. Shooting a new Imax film takes a n amount of money substantially different from 0. The 2 don't compare.

[daber]

They could make a new ride - Bikin' - and you could sit on individual stationary bikes and pedal while the screen takes you on a bike tour of Florida, haha.

Universal Studios kinda already has it... The ET ride. Still haven't gotten over being stuck on a bicycle in mid air for over an hour when it broke down.

[Coach Rick]

I would have to agree, Soarin Over Florida would not entice me to ride it again and again. One of the things I think the imagineers have to take into account is believability, and a wind powered glider is just not believable IMO. There are so many places in the world that would be neat, like the rockies, or the Grand Canyon, or British Columbia, or New England, or __________ (fill in the blank)

Gotta have mountains somewhere. Of course they could save money doing Florida, since they would not need to tilt the gliders so much. No updraft means not much climbing. ;)

[cristen]

and I can see them changing Soarin' after a few years just to restimulate it again.

How many times have they changed the one in DCA to restimulate it?

[Mickey Rules]

I would have to agree, Soarin Over Florida would not entice me to ride it again and again. One of the things I think the imagineers have to take into account is believability, and a wind powered glider is just not believable IMO. There are so many places in the world that would be neat, like the rockies, or the Grand Canyon, or British Columbia, or New England, or __________ (fill in the blank)

Gotta have mountains somewhere. Of course they could save money doing Florida, since they would not need to tilt the gliders so much. No updraft means not much climbing. ;)


Gotta love the New England plug...WAY TO GO :lmao: !!! How about some nice shots of gliding over Fenway and end with the spectacular fireworks of opening night at Gillette during the banner raising ceremony :rotfl: !!!

But ya, I like the "Soarin' over the USA" idea, however, they would need to make the ride longer and if they do that, they may need to bulid another theater to shorten the lines. They could hit the major cities/sites around the country. Start in SF/LA/Disneyland and go over the Grand Canyon, over the Rockies, Chicago, Niagra Falls, NYC, Boston, and work down the coast and end at WDW. I think that they would be able to do it if they lengthen it by a bit and make it a little more exciting...ie...a little more movement. I'm not talking about making sharp turns/drops, but just a little more movement here and there. Thats just my idea. I think that around the world would be too much because there are too many sites that are good, Paris/London/Rome/Great wall of China/ Sydney/ plus the US, among others. I don't know...just my opinion.

[ChrisFL]

you know whats a crazy idea...the Soarin' building at Epcot is really close to the Canada pavilion, they could theoretically build a separate enclosed pathway and make one of the theaters a Soarin' over Canada

[ChrisFL]

How many times have they changed the one in DCA to restimulate it?

Maybe they realized that just adding a new movie at Soarin' in DCA still won't give them the attendance they need and they're focusing elsewhere.

[Mickey Rules]

you know whats a crazy idea...the Soarin' building at Epcot is really close to the Canada pavilion, they could theoretically build a separate enclosed pathway and make one of the theaters a Soarin' over Canada

That actually could work considering that World Showcase needs less movies about the history of places that no-body cares about while in Disney, and put more attractions. However, this would probablly result in lines streatching from Canada to Norway...and who would want to wait in a line that long?:lmao:!! But ya...that probablly wouldn't happen...but you never know!!

[YoHo]

That actually could work considering that World Showcase needs less movies about the history of places that no-body cares about while in Disney, and put more attractions.

Hmmm, I'm experiencing numerous emotions related to this comment and none of them are good.

1: you know a lot of people like the big movies and
2: If that's really the way people feel about Disney and Epcot, then perhaps the populous deserves the idiotic management. Perhaps Eisner was right to think Disney fans are "idiots."

That's not intended as a personal attack by the way, Disney management thinks very little of the intelligence of the guest and that kind of comment doesn't really help.

[tjkraz]

Changing ToT takes close to zero money. Shooting a new Imax film takes a n amount of money substantially different from 0. The 2 don't compare.


I'm with YoHo. Disney has nothing to gain from a film change at this time. Even on slow days FastPasses are gone by mid-day and lines are over an hour by noon. You can't say the same about 5 other attractions in all of WDW.

Why change the film? To drive even MORE people to Soarin?

There are dozens of other attractions that could use a cash infusion moreso than 3-year old Soarin. As much as I'd enjoy a new experience there, it would make more sense in a decade or so after the current ride's popularity begins to wane.

[Mickey Rules]

Hmmm, I'm experiencing numerous emotions related to this comment and none of them are good.

1: you know a lot of people like the big movies and
2: If that's really the way people feel about Disney and Epcot, then perhaps the populous deserves the idiotic management. Perhaps Eisner was right to think Disney fans are "idiots."

That's not intended as a personal attack by the way, Disney management thinks very little of the intelligence of the guest and that kind of comment doesn't really help.


I know you weren't taking a shot at me, but I have to defend myself here. (I am not meaning for this to sound sarcastic or angry and I appologize if it comes across that way) I was basically referring to the one in Norway...how many people have actually stayed to see the movie after riding the Malestrom? I would say, that I have personally witnessed no more than 10-15 people at a time actually staying to watch it (less even, people just blow through the theater to get out). Now, that's my personal experience...I'm obviously not there 24/7 so I wouldn't know what it's like when I'm not there. I have personally never been to the show in Canada because my mom gets motion sickness because of the 360 screen. However, I have never seen many people there...again, my personal experiences that I based that comment off of...it was also a little exaggeration/humor. I love EPCOT, and I enjoy walking through the countries. I just think that people would rather go on a ride than see a movie like that...as I have seen with Norway. I don't think that many people want to get a history lesson about different countries. Yes, I know that the movies show the gorgeous scenery around countries that some may never visit...just my opinion. I love history by the way, but that's the real world...for me at least...Maybe Disney could come up with a way to make a fun ride that shows the history of some countries...kinda like rio del tiempo meets the universe of energy dinosaur thing. I guess that's what I was trying to get across. It's hard for me to me to put my thoughts into words lol...so thats the best I can do for now lol!!

[Crazy Hakim]

How many times have they changed the one in DCA to re-stimulate it?

But, they don't have to change DCA Soarin', you are flying over where you are..... meanwhile how many tourists are totally clueless as to why Soarin' in Epcot involves all California sights, and why you end up at Disneyland and not the Magic Kingdom. Or do they even realize they are not looking at the Magic Kingdom?
Also, remember, in order to expedite the attraction, they duplicated the DCA film. Now, the attraction is one of the parks most popular, now they have the time to re-shoot the film so regardless of where it starts and where you soar over, you will eventually end at the Magic Kingdom, or even better at Epcot.
I stand by my original prediction, within the next 4 years (but I really think less) the film will be changed/updated.

[Mickey Rules]

[QUOTE=Crazy Hakim;19314088]Now, the attraction is one of the parks most popular, now they have the time to re-shoot the film so regardless of where it starts and where you soar over, you will eventually end at the Magic Kingdom, or even better at Epcot.
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How about a flyover of the whole WDW? They could do it all at night so they could theoretically show the fireworks from MK, EPCOT and MGM. A close up of the castle would be must, at least for me, because even though you are in EPCOT, the MK was the original park and going over the lights on Main St. is really nice too. Now, they could do that and then have a "landing scene" back at EPCOT. There are a lot of options that they could take advantage of, and I'm sure whatever they do would be great.

[cristen]

But, they don't have to change DCA Soarin', you are flying over where you are

Yes, they do. It doesn't matter where I am flying over, it gets old. The repeatability of movie attractions are low. I will agree with you that they took the easy way out for Epcot's, that is unfortunate for the guests who go there. The best predictor of future behavior is to look at past behavior.

How many times have they changed the movie for Star Tours?

How many times have they changed the movie for HISTA?

ITTBAB?

Chances are, they are not changing the Epcot's Soarin' for quite some time was the point of my post.

[DC7800]

Also, remember, in order to expedite the attraction, they duplicated the DCA film

Any desire to expedite the attraction didn't have much to do with it. Disney was just too cheap to produce a new film. They're still cheap.

Note how many years some of the original World Showcase films have endured.

[Crazy Hakim]

Note how many years some of the original World Showcase films have endured.

1. Do you think Disney is responsible for the countries films? I don't think they are.
2. They changed/updated China's last year.
3. I have heard that Canada's update has been filmed.

[YoHo]

Yes, they are responsible for the films. They won't update until someone pays. You find someone t pay for a new Soarin film, you got a new film.