tipping on DDP???

[lnh'smom]

I know it says that tipping is included in the dining plan. Do people tip anyways? :confused3

[Praying Colonel]

I tip beyond the included 18% for outstanding service.

[n2mm]

I tip more if the service is worthy of an additional tip.

[ParkPrincess]

We're the same as the other responses. We always tip more if the service is great.

[septbaby]

If you would have normally, tipped over 18% on this particular meal, leave the extra. If you would have left 18% or less, don't leave anymore money. It isn't expected that you tip beyond the DDP amount.

Have a great trip. Which I was there already!

[Snow_White]

Personally, I think 18% is a good tip, so I only leave more if the service is absolutely exceptional (in which case we'll up the tip to 25%).

[Nancyg56]

We tip more if the service is good. We had excellent service many times and felt our server deserved more than the 18% that was included.

[PrincessMinnie28]

I agree with everyone else. 18% is included in the DDP, but if you feel the server deserves more, you should tip more.

OT: Word to the wise... this isn't directly related to the DDP, but we realized (after our trip when looking at our receipts) that the tip was also included with all alcoholic beverages that we purchased. After we realized this I remembered that I had read it somewhere on the boards and kicked myself, but we ended up tipping 20-25% ON TOP of the 18% already included with the drinks! :eek: No wonder we had great service pretty much everywhere we went!

[Dizneydaz]

We tip additional when we share a meal, or if the service is really outstanding. If not, 18% works for us.

[septbaby]

We tip additional when we share a meal, or if the service is really outstanding. If not, 18% works for us.

Thanks, I had forgotten about extra tip if we share vs ordering entrees for everyone!

[Disneyserver]

I know it says that tipping is included in the dining plan. Do people tip anyways? :confused3

Hello as a Disney Server we appreciate more than 18% if you think Our service is awesome, Remember we order your food as soon as you give us your order, so Please dont take long food orders out on us and our Tip, we are very busy with the increase of the DDP participants .. And if you order alcohol or any items that are not covered on the DDP the servers are supposed to add 18% grat, 10% of that Tip goes to the bartender that made your drinks... But there are some servers at WDW who do not add grat so look at your check to see if your server add for the xtra items.

[RACHELSMOM1]

I know it says that tipping is included in the dining plan. Do people tip anyways? :confused3

If you have extra money to throw away, sure, go ahead. Why tip extra when 18% is included in the price you already paid?

[MsStinkerBelle]

This is the first and only time I'm using the DDP (it was free) as I have the DDE. More than likely I'll wind up tipping 20%...definitely more if my server goes over and above the call of duty as I'm a single mom travelling with four kids (only one is mine, the other three are nieces and nephews).

[RACHELSMOM1]

well, If your server deserves more then 18% your not throwing your money away, Remeber The price you pay for The DDP is your food costs , Disney kicks in The Grat for the servers .. Because the amount of food you buy during each day exceeds what you spent for the day, Most people spend an average of 38.00 per Sit down meal they eat on the adult plan for the full course meal, so Your 39.99 a day or whatever it is pays for the food Not the tip, Disney Kicks in the 18% grat for the time Being.. As we have discussed in the past Starting Jan 1 08 the Guests will be responsible to tip there servers because it wont be included in the plan..

I interpret the DDP as a dining package that I pay money for (yes I have to pay for it even if it is free dining, I pay rack rate for the room and I buy tickets I don't need), and that package includes gratuity, so yes I do pay for the gratuity, as well as the food. If the DDP changes, I will pay gratuity if it's not included in the future. But right now, the servers are getting 18% (a very good tip for service) and I don't see any reason to tip extra. The servers do not go without their tips just because I don't tip extra.

As for your quote, "Guests will be responsible to tip there servers because it wont be included in the plan" - this is not official Disney Policy as of this moment. Some servers would like for you to believe it is, however. Until Disney officially announces this I will just consider it heresay.

[Tink3Belle]

18% is plenty unless you feel the service is exceptions then extra would be appropriate.

[MasterShake]

I generally tip 18%-20% anyway, so IMO this is a decent tip. Our average TS meal under the DDP would have cost around $60-$80 dollars. Using $70 as a medium range (3 people in our party) , that means with the DDP the server is getting about $12.50 for a tip (I do not order drinks so they should get the full tip). It generally takes my family about 60-90 minutes to eat our entire meal. We are not terribly demanding and most of the time our waiter/waitress is serving at least 3-4 other tables while they are helping us. If every table gave 18% then they are making at least $30 - $50 dollars an hour. I know that this is taxed and that Waiters/Waitresses work very hard, but I feel that this is a reasonable wage for their hard work.

[NMW]

We tip extra to bring the tip up to 20%.

[MasterShake]

We tip extra to bring the tip up to 20%.

Would seem silly to leave $1.00 extra on a table as a tip. That's what it would be if your meal was $60-$70 dollars to kick it up to 20%.

[beattyfamily]

Would seem silly to leave $1.00 extra on a table as a tip. That's what it would be if your meal was $60-$70 dollars to kick it up to 20%.

I also leave whatever it takes to bring the tip to 20% and I don't care if anyone thinks it's 'silly'. I'm sure the waiter appreciates it. :goodvibes

[Mariposa]

I also leave whatever it takes to bring the tip to 20% and I don't care if anyone thinks it's 'silly'. I'm sure the waiter appreciates it. :goodvibes

I'm sure they do. It may look silly, but it spends just as well. :thumbsup2

We'll also be bringing the tip up to 20% (at least) unless I feel the service is no better than mediocre. 18% is a mediocre tip (IMHO)- and service at Disney is usually deserving of more than that.

[MasterShake]

I also leave whatever it takes to bring the tip to 20% and I don't care if anyone thinks it's 'silly'. I'm sure the waiter appreciates it. :goodvibes

So if by some reason you are eating alone, do you leave the $0.40 to make it an even 20%?

Not saying that anyone is going to hate an extra dollar, but it does seem a little silly to get an all inclusive dining plan and then pay just that tiny bit more. Reminds me of being a kid and having your grandma give you a nickel for no reason. Sure money is always nice, but it seems silly to make such a production for a nickel.

My guess is that most of the waiters/waitresses who work anything close to full time probably make 40,000-60,000 a year. That would put them in the middle class bracket for income, based on my figures below:

3 Tables per hour x Average Tip of 12.50 (18%) x 32 hours a week x 48 weeks a year (Month off for vacations) = $57,600 in tips.

$57,600 - 15% (Taxes) = $48,960

Not sure how it is a Disney World, but I believe that Waiters/Waitresses usually make a base salary of around $3 an hour.

$3 x 32 hours x 48 weeks = $4,608

$4,608 x .15% (taxes) = $3,917

$48,960 + $3,917 = $52,877 (if I made no mistakes on the calculator)

My point is not to say that they deserve less or that they are undeserving of what they make. This is a very difficult job and they earn every penny. My point is that Waitresses/Waiters at Disney World (in most cases) are not paupers.

Leave your $0.80 if it makes you happy, but it really does seem a little silly.

[Barbers2005]

So if by some reason you are eating alone, do you leave the $0.40 to make it an even 20%?

Not saying that anyone is going to hate an extra dollar, but it does seem a little silly to get an all inclusive dining plan and then pay just that tiny bit more. Reminds me of being a kid and having your grandma give you a nickel for no reason. Sure money is always nice, but it seems silly to make such a production for a nickel.

My guess is that most of the waiters/waitresses who work anything close to full time probably make 40,000-60,000 a year. That would put them in the middle class bracket for income, based on my figures below:

3 Tables per hour x Average Tip of 12.50 (18%) x 32 hours a week x 48 weeks a year (Month off for vacations) = $57,600 in tips.

$57,600 - 15% (Taxes) = $48,960

Not sure how it is a Disney World, but I believe that Waiters/Waitresses usually make a base salary of around $3 an hour.

$3 x 32 hours x 48 weeks = $4,608

$4,608 x .15% (taxes) = $3,917

$48,960 + $3,917 = $52,877 (if I made no mistakes on the calculator)

My point is not to say that they deserve less or that they are undeserving of what they make. This is a very difficult job and they earn every penny. My point is that Waitresses/Waiters at Disney World (in most cases) are not paupers.

Leave your $0.80 if it makes you happy, but it really does seem a little silly.

Actually, I have a friend that is a waiter in Disney World and he makes closer to $60,000. While he likes that extra money, he does get annoyed when people treat him like he's a lower class person deserving of charity. Tips aren't charity, but I think I know what you are saying.

[zaxmom]

I figure the check average is way higher with the DDP then it would be for most families paying out of pocket. And they are not having to work at pushing the add-ons like apps and desserts. 18% seems very fair to me. Of course if it was exceptional I would tip extra, or if we were sharing or they went to the trouble to pack up my dessert to go or something.

[k386trl]

I try to tip more than the standard 15%, if service is bad I leave the minimum 15. I will be tipping over the 18% on the dining plan if service is good. I try to do around 25% average, up to 50% if service was exceptional. I appreciate it when waitstaff goes above and beyond to make my meal great.

[AnninIowa]

We gave each waiter - except at Boma, when all we got were our drinks well after we started eating and then never saw the server again - an extra $5. Since the wait staff has to "wait" for their tips until their paycheck (rather than getting them right away as they normally would), we just felt it was the nice thing to do.

[cvallee]

Its silly to break down someones income and use that as justification to not leave extra money or not bring the tip amount up to 20%. How would you feel if your boss did that? You make enough, no raise for you!!!
Come on, if service is good than there is no reason not to leave the extra amount. It is part of the price of eating dinner out.

[klinlin]

Its silly to break down someones income and use that as justification to not leave extra money or not bring the tip amount up to 20%. How would you feel if your boss did that? You make enough, no raise for you!!!
Come on, if service is good than there is no reason not to leave the extra amount. It is part of the price of eating dinner out.

I agree! Estimating how much money a server makes or doesn't make should have nothing to do with leaving a tip. Tips should be based on the quality of service. Any server or bartender I know would be extremely grateful for the extra dollar.

Tip what you want, but these posts with random justifications for not tipping are getting old.

[zaxmom]

They are all getting tipped 18% of the check. The industry standard is still 15-20%. With 18% being the average. 15% for pretty bad. I do not think this is a matter of making excuses for not tipping. As for having to wait for it to show up on the paycheck, this probably would have helped me budget when I was waiting tables when I was younger.

If you get great service, sure throw more down. If you expect to have the server wait on you again, throw even more down. If the service was terrible. Oh well, you already gave 18% when you did the DDP.

[DiszyDean]

I agree that tips should be based on the quality of service.

What I consider good service:

1. The server is friendly.
2. The server is present before, during and after the meal.
3. Drinks are refilled.
4. Suggestions and information is given on the menu.
5. If you ask for something a little different, sour cream on the side or no onions, they actually write down or remember your request.

Things I would not penalize the server for:

1. Food not prepared properly.
2. Food is late.

If all these things are done, I feel they have earned their 18% tip which is already covered by the DDP. If I feel they go well above and beyond these things, I would be willing to tip a little more. Not to exceed probably 25%. To tip a server up to 50% of the total meal is a little excessive IMO, but to each their own.

This is where I feel there is an advantage for taking the tip out of the DDP. I wish they would let the customer decide the tip and Disney would still cover it up to 18%, but that is another conversation.

Honesty, if some or most of these things are not done, I would not even tip 18% in most instances.

[MasterShake]

Listen, generally if I am paying out of pocket I divide the total amount of the bill by 10, double it, and then round up. So generally I tip somewhere between 20%-21%. However, one of the main reasons I get the Dinning Plan is so I do not have to carry around cash or worry about a tip. I leave some cash in the Hotel to tip the maid and that's it.

18% is a decent tip and with the prices at Disney World it equates to more then you would probably tip for the same service at a local restaurant.

The person that mentioned tipping 50% is out of their mind. I know this makes me the bad guy, but 50% is just ridiculous.

So if it makes you sleep better at night tip 25%, 30%, 50%. Maybe soon we will tip more then the meal. Servers work hard, but 18% is a reasonable compensation for their work.

[MasterShake]

Its silly to break down someones income and use that as justification to not leave extra money or not bring the tip amount up to 20%. How would you feel if your boss did that? You make enough, no raise for you!!!
Come on, if service is good than there is no reason not to leave the extra amount. It is part of the price of eating dinner out.

First off Waiters/Waitresses get a raises every time a restaurant increases its prices. I know that restaurants in my area have increased prices at least once a year since I can remember.

Secondly, breaking down the income was not to justify giving less, but to prove my point that Servers are well compensated at 18%. The standard tip range is 15%-20%. 18% is well within the standard range. If you really want to get the warm fuzzies at night you should take that $0.80, save it, and at the end of the month send it to a children's charity. Those are the people you should feel obligated to be generious with.

Do you think that tips were always 15%-20% for service? The tipping average has increased over the years.

Tipping is part of the price of eating out and I plan accordingly. Again, if you feel better about adding $0.80 to your tip, then go crazy.

[RACHELSMOM1]

Listen, generally if I am paying out of pocket I divide the total amount of the bill by 10, double it, and then round up. So generally I tip somewhere between 20%-21%. However, one of the main reasons I get the Dinning Plan is so I do not have to carry around cash or worry about a tip. I leave some cash in the Hotel to tip the maid and that's it.

18% is a decent tip and with the prices at Disney World it equates to more then you would probably tip for the same service at a local restaurant.

The person that mentioned tipping 50% is out of their mind. I know this makes me the bad guy, but 50% is just ridiculous.

So if it makes you sleep better at night tip 25%, 30%, 50%. Maybe soon we will tip more then the meal. Servers work hard, but 18% is a reasonable compensation for their work.

I am with you on all these points!! You are so right on, here!!

[k386trl]

I'm not talking about tipping 50% on every meal, I've had a few wonderful servers who were just so great I tipped about 50%. One was on my birthday, $30 meal and she brought me a cake and hung out with us and was fabulous so yes I left $15. My own personal choice just as your choice is to stick with the 18% on the DDP which I will most likely do as well unless the service was very good then I will throw a few extra bucks down. To each his own right? I don't see why something like this is becoming such a heated topic. Now when people refuse to tip anything, thats ridiculous.

[ILVPOOH]

I have never left extra tip money on DDP. The 18% is a good tip. We never require extra service that would warrant leaving extra money. Just bring my food, ask me once how everything is and then bring the check. That's all I need.

[WDWCPAlumni]

BTW dont Forget That The 18% Grat is being removed from the packages starting JAN 01/ 2008 The Guests will be responsible to tip the servers what they feel

Thank goodness!!!!!!
Our trip last week the service was so bad! Like nothing I have ever seen at Disney before!!!!
I am guessing that once they know your 18% tip is a given they work less hard.
I am use to having servers work to please you to make sure they like the tip they get.
That is how it should be IMO!!

[Barbers2005]

BTW dont Forget That The 18% Grat is being removed from the packages starting JAN 01/ 2008 The Guests will be responsible to tip the servers what they feel

Man, I hate that new policy. Dh and I probably won't use the ddp again after our Dec. trip b/c it isn't as convenient anymore. What's the point of buying an all inclusive plan if you have to bring extra money? I wish they had just raised the cost of the plan if they were hurting for money.

Personally, I usually tip 18% anyways, so the ddp tip is about right. Maybe this makes me a bad person, but I generally don't tip extra for good service. It's not that I'm stingy, I'm just lazy. 18% is easy to figure- double the sales tax and round up.

[momocay]

It is my guess that if the servers are working "less hard", they would be out of a job. 18% is a normal tip. If a server goes above and beyond for you, it is customary to add more to that. No matter how much these servers make nightly or annualy, tips should be based on the service provided. Personally I think that everyone should try this job once in their life. I did it through college and can definately appreciate what the job entails. As for calculating the expenses, you forgot to add the parties that are comprised mostly of children, at 7.50 a meal. Clearly, the average tip decreases.

[RACHELSMOM1]

Man, I hate that new policy. Dh and I probably won't use the ddp again after our Dec. trip b/c it isn't as convenient anymore. What's the point of buying an all inclusive plan if you have to bring extra money? I wish they had just raised the cost of the plan if they were hurting for money.

Personally, I usually tip about 18% anyways, so the ddp tip is about right. Maybe this makes me a bad person, but I generally don't tip extra for good service. It's not that I'm stingy, I'm just lazy. 18% is easy to figure- double the sales tax and round up.

:love: The "no tip included policy" is not a Disney policy. It is, however, being touted as truth by some people. It is only heresay at this point. I hope we all remember that until Disney adopts this policy, it is rumour and heresay,:rolleyes1 and nothing to be alarmed about. :grouphug: :dance3:

[Scornelius]

I try to tip more than the standard 15%, if service is bad I leave the minimum 15. I will be tipping over the 18% on the dining plan if service is good. I try to do around 25% average, up to 50% if service was exceptional. I appreciate it when waitstaff goes above and beyond to make my meal great.

Ok, I am a very generous tipper. Just this evening I tipped $15 on a $40 meal because the waitress was stupendous. Funny, quick, friendly, completely knowlegeble about everything on the menu - you couldn't have asked for a better server. At WDW, we always bring a stack of $5 and $10 for extra tipping when on the DDP. At home, min. 20% for good service. But I would NEVER, EVER (EVER!) tip 15% on bad service. :eek: Ever. (IMHO) If someone does a crappy job, they shouldn't get a bonus, and certainly wont get one from me.

Whenever I've encounetered a situation like this (all 2 times I've felt the service was bad enough to warrant it), I've left a note on the back of the bill telling the server exactly how they blew their chance at a tip. This is based soley on their performance. If there's a problem with my food or what have you, that's not the server's fault, and it doesn't influence the tip at all. But if they're rude or give horrible service, they can go pound sand. :angel:

[Mackey Mouse]

The "no tip included policy" is not a Disney policy. It is, however, being touted as truth by some people. It is only heresay at this point. I hope we all remember that until Disney adopts this policy, it is rumour and heresay, and nothing to be alarmed about.
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[Summer-Caitlin]

I too am curious about how much extra I should tip. I feel the general concensus is to up it to a max of 25% for above and beyond service. For my trip in August I will tip above the standard 18% included for excellent service, but I'm quite happy to stick with the 18% if I just get so-so service.
I have a question though regarding alcohol. No one in my party drinks alcohol with their meal so we will likely end up drinking soft drinks or bottled water. Our party will consist of 3 Adults for the first week and 2 thereafter. In this case, will the server get all the extra tip or does 10% go to the Barman for the soft drinks?
I also have waited tables before and I know it is a difficult job, but to be honest I would have been very happy with the 18% tip included, we very rarely saw that much of a tip anyway!

[RACHELSMOM1]

I too am curious about how much extra I should tip. I feel the general concensus is to up it to a max of 25% for above and beyond service. For my trip in August I will tip above the standard 18% included for excellent service, but I'm quite happy to stick with the 18% if I just get so-so service.
I have a question though regarding alcohol. No one in my party drinks alcohol with their meal so we will likely end up drinking soft drinks or bottled water. Our party will consist of 3 Adults for the first week and 2 thereafter. In this case, will the server get all the extra tip or does 10% go to the Barman for the soft drinks?
I also have waited tables before and I know it is a difficult job, but to be honest I would have been very happy with the 18% tip included, we very rarely saw that much of a tip anyway!

Am I missing something, here? :confused: When did the "general consensus is up to 25%" begin - I sure don't understand that? If you did not have DDP and were paying OOP for all the meals, would your tip be up to 25%? I am guessing that CMs who are servers love the DDP because so many people feel so guilty that they have free dining or a prepaid DDP, that they are willing to shell out more and more money for a tip that in some cases (as previous posters have stated) equals up to 50%.. :confused3

[Barbers2005]

Am I missing something, here? :confused: When did the "general consensus is up to 25%" begin - I sure don't understand that?

It didn't- the standard for tipping is still 15-20%. If people want to be super generous, that's great, but don't feel obligated to leave that large of a tip.

[Summer-Caitlin]

Sorry, I didn't mean to say that I think people should tip up to 25%, but every time this question gets asked, 25% seems to be the figure that most people come back with. Bear in mind that I think this is really generous. I agree about tipping extra for exceedingly good service, but I agree that many feel guilty and prob tip more than they should, me included!

[Lewisc]

None of the terms of the 2008 dining plan has been released, including price. The question is what is our total cost, including out of pocket tips.

It's more then rumor, the new union contract gives Disney the right to drop included tips and Disney has told the union they plan to drop included tips.

I'll agree we shouldn't be alarmed until we see the cost and terms of the 2008plan. Disney could be reducing the cost, increases in the cash menu prices might make the meal plan a good deal even without included tips or Disney might make other changes to the plan (good or bad).

I think I may have hit on the answer, increases in the menu prices will make the DDP look like a good deal, even without tips.



The "no tip included policy" is not a Disney policy. It is, however, being touted as truth by some people. It is only heresay at this point. I hope we all remember that until Disney adopts this policy, it is rumour and heresay, and nothing to be alarmed about.
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[Nancyg56]

Am I missing something, here? :confused: When did the "general consensus is up to 25%" begin - I sure don't understand that? If you did not have DDP and were paying OOP for all the meals, would your tip be up to 25%? I am guessing that CMs who are servers love the DDP because so many people feel so guilty that they have free dining or a prepaid DDP, that they are willing to shell out more and more money for a tip that in some cases (as previous posters have stated) equals up to 50%.. :confused3

We tip what we want. I generally leave at least 20%, but we do leave more on occasion. I do not need a guilty conscience to leave over 20%, and would do so whether I paid OOP for my meal in my home town or if it was included in a package. My DH and I leave tips when we are on an all inclusive plan whenever we feel the server has provided us with above average service. We consider it to be part of our vacation budget.

[Nancyg56]

I think I may have hit on the answer, increases in the menu prices will make the DDP look like a good deal, even without tips.

Or the menu increase may be the point where customers decide that eating meals off site makes better financial sense than eating the majority of meals on Disney property.

[eeyoresnr]

Actually, I have a friend that is a waiter in Disney World and he makes closer to $60,000. While he likes that extra money, he does get annoyed when people treat him like he's a lower class person deserving of charity. Tips aren't charity, but I think I know what you are saying.

kinda funny... there was a thread last month about the DDP and tipping and several servers jumped in saying they make no where near $60,000 a year, but if you do the math I think it's pretty common:santa:

[eeyoresnr]

First off Waiters/Waitresses get a raises every time a restaurant increases its prices. I know that restaurants in my area have increased prices at least once a year since I can remember.

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For "tipped employees" meeting eligibility requirements for the tip credit under the FLSA, employers may count tips actually received as wages under the FLSA, but the employer must pay "tipped employees" a direct wage in an amount equal to the minimum wage of $6.67 minus $3.02 (which, as required by Florida's Constitution, is the 2003 tip credit existing under the FLSA), or a direct hourly wage of $3.65 as of January 1, 2007.

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servers do not get raises every time a menu price goes up. In Florida we don't even get regular minimum wage:sad1: I was a server in California for 15 years and the only time we got a raise was when the state minimum went up, granted there we at least made the full amount, not the small amount Florida employers pay.:confused3

[RACHELSMOM1]

kinda funny... there was a thread last month about the DDP and tipping and several servers jumped in saying they make no where near $60,000 a year, but if you do the math I think it's pretty common:santa:


And, for some reason, it seems to be servers who like to talk about the rumours of "no more tips included with DDP." We just tip whatever we feel is earned by the servers, and the 18% included with DDP seems adequate to me. :love:

[smidgy]

I have waitressed on and off for many years and tended barfor many years(in Illinois). NEVER has my FAR less than minimum wage increased with menu price increases.
now that I got that off my chest (whew! I feel like dory, "I've never eaten a fish") I like to dine out, and tip 20%, unless service is really bad.
at disney I tip 20% unless service is bad. so I generally add a little more., even tho I am on the DDP. and even more, if service is really good. If I were a server there (I WISH!!! my dream!) I would still be happy with the 18%, since a lot of people tip only 15, and (GAK) sometimes 10.
as far as getting decent service when the servers know the tip in included automatically, all I can say is this: I give the same service to all my customers. even those regulars who would RAVE about me, ALWAYS ask for me, and leave me 10%.(because they don't know any better.) I think disney restaurants must have managers that know which servers give excellant service.. regardless.. and which "slack off" in service to DDP customers.. In the bar and restaurant business, you are a TEAM, from the hostess to the server,to the bartender, to the busboys,to the cook. and you all join in to give the best service possible. the "cheap" people are made up for by the generous people, and the reputation of the establishment is the MOST important factor for everyone. (how do you know that the cheap people might not recommend you to big spenders? or might come back time and again on slow nights, when you welcome their business?)
my experience in dining at disney has been wonderful (with the exception of dining at San Angel after illuminations, and we felt VERY rushed.) outside of that, I never felt cheated in service by being on the DDP.

[JVL1018]

servers do not get raises every time a menu price goes up. In Florida we don't even get regular minimum wage:sad1: I was a server in California for 15 years and the only time we got a raise was when the state minimum went up, granted there we at least made the full amount, not the small amount Florida employers pay.:confused3


I could be wrong but when I read the previous post about servers getting a raise every time the meal prices go up, I am pretty sure he meant not that your wage goes up, but your tips go up accordingly.

If you were tipped 20% on a $15 meal it would be $3.00
If that meal went up to $18, then your tip would be $3.60, so there's your "raise" right there.

[eeyoresnr]

I could be wrong but when I read the previous post about servers getting a raise every time the meal prices go up, I am pretty sure he meant not that your wage goes up, but your tips go up accordingly.

If you were tipped 20% on a $15 meal it would be $3.00
If that meal went up to $18, then your tip would be $3.60, so there's your "raise" right there.

that doesn't always hold true either... many customers that eat at the same place every day might leave the change from a certain amount for the tip...but when prices go up they leave the same amount which is a lesser tip.
example: lunch and a drink totals $8.40 and customer pays with $10.00 and leaves the change $1.60 which is 19%. then prices go up and the same luch now cost $8.90 customer pays with $10.00 and leaves change which is now $1.10 which is now 12%. Not all customers sit and figure out percentages. Granted at Disney on the DDP if prices go up the servers will make more because it's 18% reguardless. But this does not hold true everywhere.

[bluejaygirl]

We had some really wonderful servers and only one time did I not leave extra. I consider 18% a nice tip for good service, but for really good or great service it doesn't seem enough. I tended to leave an extra $5 because it seemed easier than trying to figure out an actual %, and it seemed generous enough to show our appreciation.

[MasterShake]

that doesn't always hold true either... many customers that eat at the same place every day might leave the change from a certain amount for the tip...but when prices go up they leave the same amount which is a lesser tip.
example: lunch and a drink totals $8.40 and customer pays with $10.00 and leaves the change $1.60 which is 19%. then prices go up and the same luch now cost $8.90 customer pays with $10.00 and leaves change which is now $1.10 which is now 12%. Not all customers sit and figure out percentages. Granted at Disney on the DDP if prices go up the servers will make more because it's 18% reguardless. But this does not hold true everywhere.

Wrong....LOL

I have been discussing percentages and you are talking about something different. As the above poster mentioned if you tip 18% every time, then it would go up as the prices go up. I don't know a single person that tips the way you are describing. Those people are probably out there, but I would guess that they are the minority. People who tip the same amount and not by percentage have a different view then my own on tipping.

Please read my posts more carefully prior to saying I'm wrong. I'm not always right, but I usually do ok with simple math.

[DiszyDean]

I generally tip 18%-20% anyway, so IMO this is a decent tip. Our average TS meal under the DDP would have cost around $60-$80 dollars. Using $70 as a medium range (3 people in our party) , that means with the DDP the server is getting about $12.50 for a tip (I do not order drinks so they should get the full tip).

Almost no servers get to keep the full tip, ever. There is always somebody to tip out. Almost always busers, some places food runners or hosts, it depends on the restaurant. But there's always somebody for a server to tip out to, besides the bartender.

[DiszyDean]

wrong
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For "tipped employees" meeting eligibility requirements for the tip credit under the FLSA, employers may count tips actually received as wages under the FLSA, but the employer must pay "tipped employees" a direct wage in an amount equal to the minimum wage of $6.67 minus $3.02 (which, as required by Florida's Constitution, is the 2003 tip credit existing under the FLSA), or a direct hourly wage of $3.65 as of January 1, 2007.

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servers do not get raises every time a menu price goes up. In Florida we don't even get regular minimum wage:sad1: I was a server in California for 15 years and the only time we got a raise was when the state minimum went up, granted there we at least made the full amount, not the small amount Florida employers pay.:confused3

Most states only pay tipper servers $2.13/hr. FL is slightly more generous, CA even more so.

[laalaa]

I have been quite interested in this thread. I work as waitress at my local pizza hut in the uk. Tipping here int as generous as in the US from what I can see.

From what I can see tipping here, or in the restaurants where I have worked tends to be about 10% tops. There are only two customers that are regulars in our restaurant that tip near the 20% mark.

This is expecially relevant with big parties. I had a large table of 35 last week. They were my only table. So I was able to cater to their every need. Refills, chatting to the kids, singing happy birthday to the birthday girl. Cutting the cake and making up party bags. The bill came to £135 (about $270) and they left nothing. Now i know I shouldnt say this, but i was gutted, my section of usually 8 tables was closed for my whole shift. On an ordinary shift (about 5 hours) I usually make £25 ($50).

I did not realise florida waiting staff got paid so little:eek:

I have to say if I was doingthe dining plan, if i had received really good serivce,I would tip over the 18% already included.