New Villas (CRV? DLV?)- all but confirmed! [Archive] - The DIS Discussion Forums

DisnutDave

06-04-2007, 01:13 PM

We spoke with our Guide today about a possible add-on for AKV. During the conversation, I mentioned the construction going on at the Contemporary, and asked straight out if that was DVC. She said she quite honestly did not have direct knowledge that it was DVC being built there, but she passed along an interesting story. A short while ago, a fellow Guide was late for a meeting at the Theatre center in Saratoga; this was around the time the models for the Animal Kingdom Villas were being opened to the public. Anyway, this guide arrived and the place was deserted. In addition to the AKV models, there was another door open, and it was of another COMPLETELY DIFFERENT model! It was not as heavily themed as AKV (that's all she would tell us). It has not been opened since then, and in fact Management was not happy when they heard it had been seen.

I know this all sounds very cloak and dagger, but in the past we've heard that the Guides often don't have confirmed knowledge of resorts until Management is ready to unveil them. So it sounds like there was a true peek behind the curtain here. If not for a Contemporary Resort Villa, maybe this was for a possible DisneyLand Villa? Oh, the possibilties!

dwelty

06-04-2007, 02:06 PM

I have heard this same story from a Very Reliable source on 2 other sites. I think it must be true. We will see if it is DLR they might announce it at the press event for the Finding Nemo attraction at DLR on May 11th.

jakenjess

06-04-2007, 02:09 PM

Someone posted on here awhile back that when they were visiting the AKV model at SSR there was a "mystery door" that people were speculating could be a model for another DVC. I'd have to search back, but it was on a thread that had pictures of the AKV model. I wouldn't be surprised at either CRV or DL DVC, but I'm definitely hoping for CRV!

EDITED TO ADD: This is the thread I was thinking of.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1383140&referrerid=&highlight=akv+pictures

dwelty

06-04-2007, 02:35 PM

I toured the models at the beginning of May. I noticed other doors down the hall, but it never occured to me to wonder what they were for. ( I seem to remember 4 doors) do know that the AKV models only take up about a third of that building. So Something must have been built there at the same time the other models were being built. After hearing this rumor, I thought it must be CRV, and not a Disneyland DVC, however the more I thought about it the more I realized why not have Disneyland DVC models there as well, many existing members would most likely add on there, and New members would get to see what else is avaliable. Now, us Disneylanders need to start keeping our eyes peeled to see if they are building any models at DLR (or changing the existing ones). Of course it could still be CRV. (The other rumors I read, along the same lines, was that there are actually 3 different models in that building, AKV, another that was not AKV, and another (Brightly colored one) that was still under construction.

spiceycat

06-04-2007, 02:58 PM

(The other rumors I read, along the same lines, was that there are actually 3 different models in that building, AKV, another that was not AKV, and another (Brightly colored one) that was still under construction.

brightly colored - maybe Pop Century. there are so few resorts at WDW that are bright colors. Of course it could also be one for Hawaii!!!!

dwelty

06-04-2007, 03:19 PM

brightly colored - maybe Pop Century. there are so few resorts at WDW that are bright colors. Of course it could also be one for Hawaii!!!!

Pop Century! Spiceycat, bite your tongue! Hawaii, yes, but a value resort DVC?

spiceycat

06-04-2007, 03:25 PM

Pop Century! Spiceycat, bite your tongue! Hawaii, yes, but a value resort DVC?

there are rumors.... the part of Pop century that Disney only started and has done nothing with since.

jerry557

06-04-2007, 03:41 PM

In real estate, you can't knowingly lie about known information. So Disney can't say that isn't DVC being constructed at the Contemporary but then turn around and say that it is in an attempt to control the market. That is illegal. However Disney can hold the information secret until it is 100% developed if they want to because they can always change their mind.

CMs can say whatever they want because they are not legally bound to anything nor are they told anything officially either. But real estate agents cannot lie. So you can bet that Disney has probably not even officially informed DVC. So they would be very angry if a door to a model was left open. Also the permit papers that were filed were from Imagineering...not DVC. So your guide is probably telling the truth that they dont know for sure what is going to be taking the place of the North Garden Wing.

But like I've said before, why would Disney allow these rumors to continue flying if it isn't DVC? The only thing these rumors do is hurt sales at AKV. I think it is a DVC but Disney did not want it out for awhile because they were hoping they can get AKV done and then maybe even one in California before the Contemp. Perhaps now they have had to change plans because the cat is out of the bag.

momba#9

06-04-2007, 03:51 PM

This leads me to believe that it is a model for DL. Why build one out now for CRV, that resort is years away? They are currently selling 2 resorts at WDW (SSR & AKV), I can't imagine three selling at the same time at WDW so that leads me to believe it is for DL. Selling SSR,AKV and DLV is something I think is very feasible.

This is my best guess so really nothing more than that. I don't have a crystal ball or any inside info. unfortunately.

Mike

jerry557

06-04-2007, 03:53 PM

Well...SSR will probably be sold out at the end of the year. When I talked to my guide last month he said SSR is over 80% sold.

momba#9

06-04-2007, 03:56 PM

In real estate, you can't knowingly lie about known information.

CMs can say whatever they want because they are not legally bound to anything nor are they told anything officially either. But real estate agents cannot lie.

I would agree but are you talking about CM's or DVC guides?

DVC guides ARE Real Estate agents. I believe that they have to be to sell DVC. Now the "CM's you see at the DVC kiosks around WDW and the Resorts, I believe they are merely contacts and not Real Estate agents or DVC guides that sell.

I could be wrong?????

Mike

jerry557

06-04-2007, 04:00 PM

I would agree but are you talking about CM's or DVC guides?

DVC guides ARE Real Estate agents. I believe that they have to be to sell DVC. Now the "CM's you see at the DVC kiosks around WDW and the Resorts, I believe they are merely contacts and not Real Estate agents or DVC guides that sell.

I could be wrong?????

Mike

The guides are real estate agents. I dont know about the Kiosk people, I think they are just hired by DVC to man those stations. Not everyone that works for DVC is a real estate agent. I've also noticed those guys at the kiosks don't know anything near as much as people at the preview center.

momba#9

06-04-2007, 04:01 PM

Well...SSR will probably be sold out at the end of the year. When I talked to my guide last month he said SSR is over 80% sold.

Well, I like numbers so lets look at those. 80% sold......... it has been selling since 2003 I believe so that is 4 years of sales. At that pace we are talking about 20% of the resort selling per year.

If that 80% sold is true then we can guess SSR will be selling for another year, call it summer of 2008. Of course the 4 years worth of sales I use as an example are sales without the competition of AKV.

SSR may well sell until 2009, we'll see. Either way it is and will continue to sell quite nicely.

Mike

momba#9

06-04-2007, 04:03 PM

The guides are real estate agents. I dont know about the Kiosk people, I think they are just hired by DVC to man those stations. Not everyone that works for DVC is a real estate agent. I've also noticed those guys at the kiosks don't know anything near as much as people at the preview center.

Well then we agree. That is exactly what I stated earlier.

Mike

TenThousandVolts

06-04-2007, 04:31 PM

This is a really juicy piece of gossip- I love it- much more interesting than the usual reports from the bus drivers that we hear all the time. A secret room- excellent! Hope it's true- and I hope it is CRV!

Sammie

06-04-2007, 05:14 PM

The brightly colored one is the Polynesian, :rotfl: Hey, I can spread rumors too. ;)

BCV23

06-04-2007, 05:37 PM

The brightly colored one is the Polynesian, :rotfl: Hey, I can spread rumors too. ;)

Oh, I wish!

Desnik

06-04-2007, 06:08 PM

I love reading all these rumors and speculations!! I am really hoping for a CRV!! We own at SSR and just did an add on at AKV because we needed the extra points and we fell in love with the AKV models. But, I would be overjoyed with a monorail DVC resort. Also, after touring the CR this past trip I really grew an appreciation for the resort. I could totally picture my family and I enjoying our vacations there.

Ooba

06-04-2007, 07:35 PM

Well I'm sitting on the fence right now, trying to decide if we add on at AKV. Being a west coaster, I would LOVE for the next resort to be in DL. I think its about time they recognize that they are missing a HUGE market by not providing even one resort on the west coast. The DVC resorts at WDW are great! But for those across the country, its tough to make frequent trips. Believe me, if they announce for DL, we would be first in line for points!!

JadeDarkstar

06-04-2007, 09:45 PM

umm hay they are supose to be building on in cali i thought, also the three hotels in th dl park can be used by points but i dont think can buy in to them im new but i sware i heard some one say dl had one coming

3DisneyKids

06-04-2007, 10:25 PM

The initial thread that was posted about this topic a few months ago (by pennyguy, I think), stated that the door had more of a contemporary look to it. However, I am still betting that Cali., will be announced first.

Pennyguy23

06-04-2007, 10:33 PM

Well we are the ones that saw the doors. It was the exact same door as the CR has right now

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Except that instead of just the straight silver bar down the door. It was a silver half moon shape. That went from the top right of the door to the bottom right of the door. I know what I saw and it was a CRV door. This was in March. When we went back in May the door that leads into the the back hallway has ALOT more heavy duty and it wasn't opening with just a push. Actually I think they changed it the day we saw it in march because some lady was yelling at some guys "to get that door changed. Anyone can just open it up and see whats behind it." It had a little window in it too with a ripped piece of paper covering about 3/4 of it.

jerry557

06-04-2007, 11:09 PM

I think what they are waiting for is SSR. I think they are waiting for that to sell out before they announce the next project.

spiceycat

06-04-2007, 11:19 PM

The brightly colored one is the Polynesian, :rotfl: Hey, I can spread rumors too. ;)

now that would be worth waiting for to open!!!

BroganMc

06-04-2007, 11:59 PM

I think what they are waiting for is SSR. I think they are waiting for that to sell out before they announce the next project.

That's my theory too. I have heard independent confirmation of a future CRV. So the question is really how long it takes them to build it. I doubt we'll see it for sale until SSR sells out (which is expected within a year). But they won't wait for AKV to sell out.

UConnJack

06-05-2007, 12:16 AM

there are rumors.... the part of Pop century that Disney only started and has done nothing with since.

PCV? DVC Villas at Pop Century?

Now there's a Baltic Avenue on the Monopoly Board of DVC. How many points would it be for a studio in January? 3 points?

I really can't see DVC watering down the brand like that.

BCVBRUCE

06-05-2007, 08:31 AM

Doorway to Narnia???

dianeschlicht

06-05-2007, 08:47 AM

We encountered the "mystery door" too. I asked if it was the old SSR models, and was told "no, I don't know what's back there". It did look like another door to a unit though. I'm guessing it IS a new DVC as yet to be announced, and reasoning people who have seen what has been sluethed out on these boards would assume it is CRV.

dianeschlicht

06-05-2007, 08:48 AM

PCV? DVC Villas at Pop Century?

Now there's a Baltic Avenue on the Monopoly Board of DVC. How many points would it be for a studio in January? 3 points?

I really can't see DVC watering down the brand like that.

I totally agree! I can see them making family suites in a value, but NOT DVC!

keishashadow

06-05-2007, 02:39 PM

i'm feelin' green;) All this croak & dagger stuff

dvc @ Pop? Don't see why they can't just use the area across the lake for a separate development, whether DVC or not.:confused3 Not very familiar w/the layout but; isn't there a lot of land to expand?

I can vouche for realtors; we cannot tell a lie:rolleyes1 ; at least not to potential customers. Not sure what code of ethics a non-realtor, basic real estate salesperson in the great state of FL adheres to though.

Disney is big on never giving out more info than is absolutely necessary (i.e. not offering the best available room rates, etc. unless specifically asked, etc.).