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FloridaTeacher
05-29-2007, 10:57 AM
We were there over Memorial Day weekend (arrived Thursday, left Monday). We were amazed to find that neither the parks nor the campground were overly crowded. We kinda figured we would just have to pick our favorite things to do/see and concentrate on those, but we did everything we wanted - some twice!!! It was a fantastic, but short, trip!:goodvibes

The Fort - We stayed in loop 700 (our favorite loop). It was full, but not packed. Everyone seemed to be behaving themselves (at least in our loop), no obnoxious neighbors, no all night music. One issue that has gotten out of hand is the golf carts - they're everywhere and some drivers are quite reckless!!!

The only other problem is that some pet owners do not pick up after their pets. Nothing is quite as aggravating as walking your dog and stepping in another dog's poop.:scared: I am always amazed at people who think the rules are in place for others to follow, but not them. :confused3

There is, of course, a no burn /no individual campfire order. It is very dry - the grass crunches underneath your feet. You can grill, gas or charcoal. The charcoal grills made me a little nervous since it would take only one tiny spark to have a major fire.

The parks - We were happily surprised to find that they weren't too packed. The only night that was really crowded was Sunday night at the Magic Kingdom. Other than that, they were full and busy but comfortable. This trip we did the Fantasmic dinner package at MGM, and it was fantasmic!!! That is the best way to do Fantasmic - I highly recommend it!:yay:

All in all - we had a fantastic mini-vacation. We didn't want to leave, but we're planning our October visit!:cool1:

Happy Camping!

JPG
05-29-2007, 11:53 AM
Woo Hoo Hoo!!!!!!! :tigger: Glad you all had a great time! Hopefully the South will start getting some rain, minus any Hurricanes!!! We are getting very close to our upcoming trip to the Fort and can hardly stand the excitement! party:

tellnotails
05-29-2007, 12:17 PM
One issue that has gotten out of hand is the golf carts - they're everywhere and some drivers are quite reckless!!!

The only other problem is that some pet owners do not pick up after their pets. Nothing is quite as aggravating as walking your dog and stepping in another dog's poop.:scared: I am always amazed at people who think the rules are in place for others to follow, but not them. :confused3




I know what ya mean about the golf carts..........I feel they are ruining a lot of the forts peaceful appeal.....



I rode my bike through the 300 loop in Jan. and was nearly knocked off my bike from the smell of dog doo laying everywhere........

Us3
05-29-2007, 12:50 PM
I know what ya mean about the golf carts..........I feel they are ruining a lot of the forts peaceful appeal.....



I rode my bike through the 300 loop in Jan. and was nearly knocked off my bike from the smell of dog doo laying everywhere........

I agree with the issue of folks not picking up after their pets! Quite rude. My dd and I were riding our bikes around the 300 loop looking at Easter decorations in March. Urgh, I learned quickly that I needed to keep my eyes down on the road......I ran over some dog poop!!! Yuck yuck!

mommyoeo
05-29-2007, 03:00 PM
There is, of course, a no burn /no individual campfire order. It is very dry - the grass crunches underneath your feet. You can grill, gas or charcoal. The charcoal grills made me a little nervous since it would take only one tiny spark to have a major fire.


I thought we could bring one of those covered fire pits, as long as we kept the screen closed. Has that changed or did I misunderstand? I've been shopping for one, but I don't want to waste my money on something I won't be able to use.

Glad your trip was great!

Christy

Camping Cat
05-29-2007, 06:52 PM
I agree with the issue of folks not picking up after their pets! Quite rude. My dd and I were riding our bikes around the 300 loop looking at Easter decorations in March. Urgh, I learned quickly that I needed to keep my eyes down on the road......I ran over some dog poop!!! Yuck yuck!

Oh, that is disgusting! We've always stayed in pet loops due to our cat and we have never encountered this. I guess we've just been very lucky. For this December, we have requested either the 300 loop or the 800 loop. I wish there were some way that Disney could enforce the clean behind your pet rule. Hey, how about making dogs wear diapers? Let those thoughtless owners be the only ones who have to deal with it....hehe. In case someone doesn't catch on......I'm only kidding!:rotfl:

Memph1s
05-29-2007, 08:16 PM
I thought we could bring one of those covered fire pits, as long as we kept the screen closed. Has that changed or did I misunderstand? I've been shopping for one, but I don't want to waste my money on something I won't be able to useCovered fire pits are allowed when conditions are not so dry. Right now and probably for the next 3-4 weeks all site campfires are banned.

We were at the fort this past weekend also. It does seem that Disney needs to explain the fundamental operation of the accelerator pedal to some quest. We saw several people that apparently did not realize that the carts are capable or than just stop and full throttle.

We also went to MK on Sunday night (9PM) and man was it a nightmare to get down main street with the parade going on. We should have just taken the train to the back of the park.

The 1200 and 1300 loops were back open. The comfort station looks great after the makeover. They really cleared out the underbrush. You can see every site in both loops from anywhere. Hopefully they are going to plant some more favorable bushes to fill in the way they did in the 1500 loop a couple years ago. The 1500 loop looks great now but it was pretty bare at first.

We did see 1 site with five cars, count them , 1 2 3 4 5 cars! Nothing else just cars.

Also noticed that they did cut the top of the lawnmower tree down. They left about 15 or 20 feet of the trunk so you can still see the lawnmower.

The love bugs made a mess of most people’s rigs. We saw a few that were down right fuzzy looking from all the bugs.

The water in the canals and the little lake by the bike barn are the lowest I have ever seen. It is totally dry under the bridge that leads to the trading post from the pool area. There was also a small gator in the lake by the bike barn.

The weather was very nice. Hot in the sun but not too bad in the shade and a very nice breeze.

All in all we had a nice trip also. Just way too short.

tellnotails
05-30-2007, 07:08 AM
We were at the fort this past weekend also. It does seem that Disney needs to explain the fundamental operation of the accelerator pedal to some quest. We saw several people that apparently did not realize that the carts are capable or than just stop and full throttle.



I think these and many many more observations of golf cart abuse will bring an end to the private golf carts :car:

michelle9343
05-30-2007, 08:27 AM
I think these and many many more observations of golf cart abuse will bring an end to the private golf carts :car:

I don't think so. The people who drive there own carts tend to be much better at driving them and more careful since it is there own property.

tellnotails
05-30-2007, 03:15 PM
Well when I was a teenager and driving my parents car........oh nevermind..

ftwildernessguy
05-30-2007, 03:40 PM
Well when I was a teenager and driving my parents car........oh nevermind..

OT - oh man, I just had a flashback. When I was 15 my brother had a 1962 Chevy with a column mount manual shift. When no one was around, I found that I could back it all the way to the bottom of the driveway, then pull it forward and get it into 2nd gear before I hit the garage - but I had to open the door and ended up inside. To make a long story short, my dad ended up with a door in the front AND the back of the garage.:eek:

bigdisneydaddy
05-30-2007, 04:40 PM
I don't think so. The people who drive there own carts tend to be much better at driving them and more careful since it is there own property.


I agree, all the abuse (in my opinion) I have seen was with Disney carts.

AuburnJen92
05-30-2007, 07:23 PM
I don't think so. The people who drive there own carts tend to be much better at driving them and more careful since it is there own property.

I tend to agree. We bring our own cart and do find that the privately owned ones are the people who obey the rules. :car: :car:

daddyscooltv
05-30-2007, 07:28 PM
I agree totally I have to much money and time in my golf cart to abuse it. I even get nervous when people try to park to close to mine.

AuburnJen92
05-30-2007, 07:45 PM
I agree totally I have to much money and time in my golf cart to abuse it. I even get nervous when people try to park to close to mine.


Well, I teach for a living, so the money thing is out, HOWEVER....

I don't want anyone coming near my freshly painted golf cart either. If you own it, you take care of it. That is just how it is now-a-days. You should see what our HS kids did to our brand new set of 15K textbooks at our brand new school this year!:scared1: It was awful. I bet FW has a big repair bill on the carts each month!

bama_ed
05-30-2007, 08:19 PM
I'm not suprised about the golf cart situation. It is the one topic I love to hate! :banana:

I'm tired of walking on the sidewalk between the Meadow Trading Post and the campfire/pool area across the bridge and being challenged by a speeding golf cart. If I'm on the bridge crossing over I keep walking; the Carties who look at me like I should jump off the bridge to get out of their way can just keep waiting on their big f*t b*tt.

AuburnJen92 is right that if you own it, you take care of it; if you rent it you abuse it more often than not.

Okay, I'll get off my high horse! Wish the Fort would get some rain....we need it all over the South ;)

Bama ED

Gatordad
05-30-2007, 11:16 PM
I agree with the folks who say they should outlaw the rental carts.

FloridaTeacher
06-01-2007, 03:10 PM
I hate that my post has turned into a golf cart gripe session, however, we saw plenty of reckless driving on both rental and privately owned carts. :sad2:

tellnotails
06-04-2007, 08:17 AM
I know what ya mean about the golf carts..........I feel they are ruining a lot of the forts peaceful appeal.....



I rode my bike through the 300 loop in Jan. and was nearly knocked off my bike from the smell of dog doo laying everywhere........


Florida teacher,

Thanks for the report and sharing your observations.....

TNT

big kahuna1
06-04-2007, 11:01 AM
I'm tired of walking on the sidewalk between the Meadow Trading Post and the campfire/pool area across the bridge and being challenged by a speeding golf cart. If I'm on the bridge crossing over I keep walking; the Carties who look at me like I should jump off the bridge to get out of their way can just keep waiting on their big f*t b*tt.

I have yet to see a speeding cart in that area in all the years(over 20) that I have been camping at the Fort. Be that inconsiderate to me an you get a continuous blast of my air horns just so everyone can see what type of person you really are. As you said, just move your f*t b*tt two steps to the side. It really is rather simple. I'll explain it to you. You take one foot and move it to the right or to the left depending on which side you should be on anyway. You may need to do this twice but it does work. I know this because 99% of all the other people perform this simple solution every time. You are out of the way and not hogging the entire WALK AND CART PATH and the cart can go around you. Makes for a less stree free vacation for all. Try it, you'll like it.

lucas
06-04-2007, 03:00 PM
Glad you had a good time! :cool1:

Colson39
06-04-2007, 03:22 PM
:rolleyes:

People act like it's some kind of mad house and people are ramming golf carts into people and jumping over bridges and slamming into campers.

The majority of people don't abuse the carts, stop acting like the MINORITY is the status quo. Until it becomes a REAL problem, nothing is going to change. If it actually was as horrific and world ending as some people believe, they would have done something by now.

It's funny that there has never been one single substantiated rumour (not even just a rumour) about them ever taking away the rental golf carts. In fact, they just expanded the fleet, so it's obvious they have no plans on getting rid of them. Enforce the rules a bit more? Yea, they should and hopefully will do it. But please, golf carts aren't going anywhere, they are a huge money maker for the Fort no matter how much people want to hate on them. Unfortunately for the people that hate them, they also never rent them, so they really aren't affecting Disney's bottom line on the carts anyways.

I for one am glad that the carts aren't going anywhere. I hope they're there until even my grandkids will be able to rent them (when they are all solar powered...lol). And people will probably still complain about them then, but such is life :)

tellnotails
06-04-2007, 03:45 PM
[QUOTE=FloridaTeacher;18900964]

The Fort - We stayed in loop 700 (our favorite loop). It was full, but not packed. Everyone seemed to be behaving themselves (at least in our loop), no obnoxious neighbors, no all night music. One issue that has gotten out of hand is the golf carts - they're everywhere and some drivers are quite reckless!!!

The only other problem is that some pet owners do not pick up after their pets. Nothing is quite as aggravating as walking your dog and stepping in another dog's poop.:scared: I am always amazed at people who think the rules are in place for others to follow, but not them. :confused3
[/QUOTE


Rumor?

Colson39
06-04-2007, 03:52 PM
You obviously didn't understand what I wrote. I said that Disney has never said ANYTHING about removing the golf carts, not that people don't like the golf carts.

You are pasting what someone else said, that has nothing to do with what I said about Disney. Disney has never said they would remove the golf carts, there has never even been a substantiated rumour (or even non-substantiated that I can think of) that they would remove them, and since they just upped the size of the fleet, they obviously aren't planning on doing it either.

Hopefully that clears it up for you :)

AuburnJen92
06-04-2007, 05:11 PM
:rolleyes:

Enforce the rules a bit more? Yea, they should and hopefully will do it. But please, golf carts aren't going anywhere, they are a huge money maker for the Fort no matter how much people want to hate on them. Unfortunately for the people that hate them, they also never rent them, so they really aren't affecting Disney's bottom line on the carts anyways.

My stubborn DH is a living example of them enforcing the rules. The two times that our lights went out on the cart, he decided to drive it anyway with huge flashlights strapped on there to compensate. He was stopped by security and escorted back to our site both times. They do patrol, and I have seen them kick many a small child out of the driver's seat. People only see what they want to see. I agree, they are not going to take the carts away. If it is bothering "everyone" so bad, please call Disney and file a complaint. That way, something will come of it. They will beef up patrols, or do whatever they need to keep safety in mind. The last thing they want is another lawsuit. If all you do on this forum is complain and not voice yourself to the people that can do something about it, nothing gets done except to alienate others.

OK, I am off my soapbox. My DS (3yrs) is an avid fan of the carts and would not let us go to FW without it. :earsboy:

bama_ed
06-04-2007, 07:07 PM
Oh, to be clear, no stress on my part. I just kinda feel sorry for some folks...

I do walk on the right side as is custom in this country but the carts coming head-on down the center lane are the ones I'm tired (not worried) of.

:yay:

Bama ED

Colson39
06-04-2007, 10:58 PM
My stubborn DH is a living example of them enforcing the rules. The two times that our lights went out on the cart, he decided to drive it anyway with huge flashlights strapped on there to compensate. He was stopped by security and escorted back to our site both times. They do patrol, and I have seen them kick many a small child out of the driver's seat. People only see what they want to see. I agree, they are not going to take the carts away. If it is bothering "everyone" so bad, please call Disney and file a complaint. That way, something will come of it. They will beef up patrols, or do whatever they need to keep safety in mind. The last thing they want is another lawsuit. If all you do on this forum is complain and not voice yourself to the people that can do something about it, nothing gets done except to alienate others.

OK, I am off my soapbox. My DS (3yrs) is an avid fan of the carts and would not let us go to FW without it. :earsboy:

As I said, I do hope that they enforce the rules. I am with all of you that the rules should be more strictly enforced. I don't agree with teenagers that are not of age driving around in carts. However, I also think that calling for the ban of all carts based on the few that break the rules is a bit much. There is one thing to complain, and another to complain on an internet forum. Everyone has the right to their opinion. My point is/was that if this was a serious problem, Disney would have taken measures a long time ago. I have yet to ever really see a problem with the carts, but that is my observation, and not others.

I've been going to the Fort for longer than I can remember. I don't and will not argue that some people view a problem with the carts. If someone does not like the carts being there, that is their right and their opinion. I am just stating that in this amount of time I have thoroughly enjoyed the carts and never had a problem.

To each their own :)

big kahuna1
06-05-2007, 07:41 AM
Bama,

Glad to hear that as it really is not worth stresing over the few who have no consideration for others, and they are few. Usually, it is the teenagers when they all get together on one cart and have to show off to each other. Those are generally the ones you have to look out for. At least in my experience. But as a whole, I do not see that many problems with the carts. :thumbsup2

bigdisneydaddy
06-05-2007, 08:32 AM
Havent we beat Florida teachers thread up enough :thumbsup2

Scott



PS... I was thinking about starting another smoking thread ...:lmao:

Colson39
06-05-2007, 08:58 AM
You could really go crazy and start a smoking while driving a golf cart thread :P

ftwildernessguy
06-05-2007, 09:25 AM
Know what irks me? Those underage smoking golf cart drivers drinking a free coke from TE in a refillable mug from All Stars.

Gatordad
06-05-2007, 10:07 AM
smoking while driving your cart to the site that you rented just for magic hours to spite someone else would be better

Gatordad
06-05-2007, 10:09 AM
you beat me to it, i was going to say mug refillers, but that doesn't get people as fired up as much.

bigdisneydaddy
06-05-2007, 10:39 AM
I am going to start the

Anti:
teenage golf cart driving
reckless driving
smoking
drinking on a golf cart
Prevost owning
mug refilling
line jumping
Invited guests parking at the sites
non waving
foreigners
non site using EMH folks
non poop scoopers

Thread.


;)

catalexander
06-05-2007, 10:46 AM
I am going to start the

Anti:
teenage golf cart driving
reckless driving
smoking
drinking on a golf cart
Prevost owning
mug refilling
line jumping
Invited guests parking at the sites
non waving
foreigners
non site using EMH folks

Thread.


;)

yeah.... kinda goes contrary to the whole "waving b/c campers are generally friendly/happy people"..... thread...

We're friendly, unless you're one of the above... :lmao: (or, we THINK you're one of the above!)

(and you forgot, non-pooper scooper pet owners!)

bigdisneydaddy
06-05-2007, 10:59 AM
yeah.... kinda goes contrary to the whole "waving b/c campers are generally friendly/happy people"..... thread...

We're friendly, unless you're one of the above... :lmao: (or, we THINK you're one of the above!)

(and you forgot, non-pooper scooper pet owners!)


OH MAN.... I cant believe I forgot the poop scooper one. :headache:

I fixed it ...

tellnotails
06-05-2007, 11:25 AM
You obviously didn't understand what I wrote. I said that Disney has never said ANYTHING about removing the golf carts, not that people don't like the golf carts.

You are pasting what someone else said, that has nothing to do with what I said about Disney. Disney has never said they would remove the golf carts, there has never even been a substantiated rumour (or even non-substantiated that I can think of) that they would remove them, and since they just upped the size of the fleet, they obviously aren't planning on doing it either.

Hopefully that clears it up for you :)

Sorry for not understanding........

I went too parochial school........:teacher:


"I'm not a smart man but I can reproduce"

Colson39
06-05-2007, 12:37 PM
OH MAN.... I cant believe I forgot the poop scooper one. :headache:

I fixed it ...

One more big one you forgot, wheelies!!! Or whatever those things are called, the shoes that have wheels on them...lol

ftwildernessguy
06-05-2007, 12:42 PM
One more big one you forgot, wheelies!!! Or whatever those things are called, the shoes that have wheels on them...lol

heelies

bigdisneydaddy
06-05-2007, 01:09 PM
One more big one you forgot, wheelies!!! Or whatever those things are called, the shoes that have wheels on them...lol


I dont understand all the "heelie hate" :confused3

ftwildernessguy
06-05-2007, 01:13 PM
I hate 'em because I'm not coordinated enough to ride them and I'm at an age that I no longer bounce when I fall.

Colson39
06-05-2007, 01:18 PM
I don't really understand it either, I don't care about them at all. I've never been hit by them, but some people act like they get hit every 5 minutes. Never seen a kid fall with them either, although I'm sure it happens.

Personally, I'm with FtWildernessGuy that the only thing I hate about heelies is that I'm too old to wear them without looking like a fool...lol.

Sigh, if I was a kid now a days, oh the fun that could be had! :P

ftwildernessguy
06-05-2007, 01:22 PM
How come all the cool stuff comes out when we're too old to appreciate it?

bigdisneydaddy
06-05-2007, 05:23 PM
How come all the cool stuff comes out when we're too old to appreciate it?


I was thinking the opposite, like where was I when you could order a 64 Impala with a 409 and 4 speed....:thumbsup2

tungpo1
06-06-2007, 06:23 AM
I had a 70 ss chevelle 396 BB it was a sad day when I sold it. It would be worth 50,000 easy right now

tellnotails
06-06-2007, 07:35 AM
I had a 70 ss chevelle 396 BB it was a sad day when I sold it. It would be worth 50,000 easy right now

50,000 ............ pesos??????deniros?????/

ftwildernessguy
06-06-2007, 09:42 AM
My first car was a 68 Chevy Nova with a 250 straight 6. Man I loved that car.

stacktester
06-06-2007, 09:59 AM
We saw many old Chevelles, Malibus, Camaros and Novas last weekend at the old car show at Old Town. All of them were late 60' early 70's. Most likely one of them was your old cars.:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: . I know that hurt. Sorry lol.