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Disney8704
05-23-2007, 12:32 PM
A friend of mine just called me and told me she had talked to a couple of waitresses while she was eating breakfast yesterday and according to them, they said that the dining plan in 2008 will NOT include tips and that 2008 maybe the last year for the dining plan. They said that they are testing to see if people would still buy the plan or not if it didnt include tips. If success 1 or 2 thing may happen. They continue with the DDP without tips OR they will discontinue the plan altogether. They also said that Disney does realize that people are getting out of hand when they are turned away if they have no ADR and they are trying to find ways to end that. Also mentioned that more people are now trying to do walkups now even without being on the DDP then they had before the DDP even existed. She asked how the waitresses knew all this and one of the waitresses knows someone in the DDP marketing and planning and got this info from them. Normally I dont think the waitresses would open up so much about inside info like this, but since my friend is a reporter for a paper I guess she gets the goods.

rabx5
05-23-2007, 12:36 PM
read this http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1458550

Disney8704
05-23-2007, 01:14 PM
I've read that before. But you have to remember that sometimes Disney likes to sugar coat things and tell guests what they wanna hear if they arent 100% sure whats gonna happen. Same thing that my friend told me. It's still up in the air. Its more then likely gonna be a last min decision made. I'll take both stories and leave it alone until we know what the 2008 packages will be. Only then once they are released in July/August will we know 100% sure. Another thing you have to remember, that person who wrote on that other thread heard from guest realtions. My friend heard from the waitresses who heard from marketing. I think marketing has a lil more info then guest realtions would know. A lot of times people ask guest realtions questions and they arent even sure of the correct answer or info.

read this http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1458550

Allensfan
05-23-2007, 01:17 PM
I would still use the dining plan if the tips were removed. I almost felt odd getting up from the table with out leaving a tip the last time we went.

I hope they keep the plan because I want to return...but it may not be until 2009 and I was going to use the ddp again.

Mickeefan
05-23-2007, 01:30 PM
I have had the dining plan free twice now. I have also paid for the dining plan. I would definately use the dining plan either with or without tips included. In fact, I often left an additional tip for superior service.

GC&S
05-23-2007, 04:02 PM
A friend of mine just called me and told me she had talked to a couple of waitresses while she was eating breakfast yesterday and according to them,

I heard from a friend, who heard from a friend, who heard from a friend..... :)

Honestly, how many threads were started last year that there would absolutely be no free dining in 2007? That people heard from reliable sources from Disney (whether it be waitresses, housekeeping, Mickey Mouse himself). We can speculate all year what will happen with the DP. Im sure the marketing people at WDW would not make a last minute decision about doing away with a very popular program. I also believe that they spend most of their day analyzing data about every aspect of WDW in order to make decisions. That things just aren't done by flip of a coin.

Texa
05-23-2007, 04:06 PM
I heard from a friend, who heard from a friend, who heard from a friend..... :)

Honestly, how many threads were started last year that there would absolutely be no free dining in 2007? That people heard from reliable sources from Disney (whether it be waitresses, housekeeping, Mickey Mouse himself). We can speculate all year what will happen with the DP. Im sure the marketing people at WDW would not make a last minute decision about doing away with a very popular program. I also believe that they spend most of their day analyzing data about every aspect of WDW in order to make decisions. That things just aren't done by flip of a coin.

Yep, what they said. I had to laugh because it was right next to the "Disney called today..." thread. We won't know the truth of the matter until it's officially announced by Disney. Until then it's ALL speculation.

Allison
05-23-2007, 06:17 PM
Yep, what they said. I had to laugh because it was right next to the "Disney called today..." thread. We won't know the truth of the matter until it's officially announced by Disney. Until then it's ALL speculation.

Exactly.

Tam1067
05-23-2007, 08:05 PM
I just cannot imagine Disney entirely doing away with the DDP. It's been very popular and has succeeded in getting more people into the TS restaurants than in the past. They might change terms (eliminating tips sounds like a real possibility), but they'll keep doing what makes them money. If it doesn't make money in its current form, they'll just adjust the price or what's included until it does make them more of a profit.

And frankly, I would bet they're making money even with the current prices. The TS places are all charging more than comparable restaurants outside the World would charge, and the profit is going right into Disney's pockets.

pepperw23
05-23-2007, 09:14 PM
Yep, what they said. I had to laugh because it was right next to the "Disney called today..." thread. We won't know the truth of the matter until it's officially announced by Disney. Until then it's ALL speculation.


Yea, this subject rears its ugly head every couple of months. Hopefully it will remain an "dis-urban" Legend. :goodvibes

septbaby
05-23-2007, 09:39 PM
I will be using the dining plan for the first time this year during the free dining and cannot wait! I don't know the law in FL, but in many states wait staff make a very small hourly rate, plus tips. I think the 18% tip (which is probably split between wait and other staff) goes a long way to solidifying a good wage for this staff.

The nice thing about the dining plan is not having to carry cash. With out the tip being included it is likely that many deserving staff members would not get those tips, if for no other reason than a guest is cash poor at that moment or just cheap. If we charge the tip to the room we'll find that the complainers will dispute these charges at check out causing a scene there!

The first fix is for guests to take a least a moment when you don't get your way (ie. turned away for a seating) and not act like a spoiled brat (even though we are at Disney). Disrespect by the CUSTOMER turns a lot of would be good workers away from these kind of jobs, so we get stuck with what's left them come to these forums and complain. See the circular issue here?

Disney has the simplest of ecomonic problems, supply and demand. Instead of discontinuing the plan make more tables available for TS dining. I think that's why the Tusker House is being switched over and I suspect more TS space will be created. If the demand is so great we will likely see either price hikes OR fewer items/features included. Back to our ecomonics class (and gas pricing), demand up, price up until demand settles back down to the desired level. This can be circular too!

I am glad to have the 2007 Free Dining experience ahead of me! We have all our ADRs. We couldn't get Coral Reef, but took Boma instead. I expect to be delighted just the same.

aubriee
05-24-2007, 05:56 AM
I have been there for free dining the last two Septs and will be back this Sept 29th-Oct 7th (thanks to the Bounce Back program). I've also paid for the DDP May '06 and May '07, even though I'm an AP holder and also have the DDE card. I love the convenience of not having to carry any money around with me. If they do away with the tip, then I'll just use my DDE card.

Amyrlin
05-24-2007, 02:31 PM
Don't forget that Disney are negotating staff wages. If the DDP has been good for staff, with the 18% tip, it will not be doing Disney any harm for rumors to be circualting about something that will harm the staff wages, it gives them more cards to play with,

We do not know, so lets just wait and see.

Disney8704
05-24-2007, 04:48 PM
Somehow I dont think its been good for the CMs. I keep hearing that the CM would be rude or just not very nice but the moment they find out your paying OOP, their whole attitude changes for the better. Also been hearing they have been working twice as hard and sometimes have to work 7 days in a row. I guess I will find out 1st hand in Aug 2008, since we arent on the dinning plan.

Don't forget that Disney are negotating staff wages. If the DDP has been good for staff, with the 18% tip, it will not be doing Disney any harm for rumors to be circualting about something that will harm the staff wages, it gives them more cards to play with,

We do not know, so lets just wait and see.

bsmcneil
05-24-2007, 05:04 PM
Somehow I dont think its been good for the CMs. I keep hearing that the CM would be rude or just not very nice but the moment they find out your paying OOP, their whole attitude changes for the better. Also been hearing they have been working twice as hard and sometimes have to work 7 days in a row. I guess I will find out 1st hand in Aug 2008, since we arent on the dinning plan.

I have to disagree. Remember, it's all subjective. If some people want to believe they're treated better OOP, they'll think that. I didn't notice a difference OOP or DDP in quickness of greeting, refills, tone, etc. Also, nothing's in a vacuum. People could've had a horrible DDP guest before (or just horrible guest in general), late ADRs, breakups, sickness, etc. I think people too often try to find causation from seemingly correlate events.

beattyfamily
05-24-2007, 05:27 PM
Nothing wrong with sharing what we've heard. We all do it. Let's just discuss it as a 'what if' and see then see what happens.

I don't get why people have to shoot each other's 'rumors' or possible inside 'info' down. It's fun to discuss these things and debate them.

Thanks OP.

JimMIA
05-24-2007, 08:56 PM
I keep hearing that the CM would be rude or just not very nice but the moment they find out your paying OOP, their whole attitude changes for the better. Talk about recurring themes!

What I keep hearing is questions along the lines of, "Am I going to get bad service as a result of being on the DDP?" And the resounding answer I hear is NO! I can't remember the last time I read someone saying they had actually dined at WDW, on DDP, and thought they received a lesser level of service than they would have gotten paying cash. I remember one or two comments about Spoodles very early in DDP, but nothing recently.

(I've seen a few parties who deserved poor service, and they happened to be on DDP, but it wasn't because of the way they paying -- it was because of the way they were acting!)

We've probably eaten 100 meals in WDW restaurants over the last three years or so -- some on DDP and some OOP. I've never seen bad service that I would attribute to DDP. If anything, I've seen servers going out of their way to be sure I understand DDP. But from the cheapest snack place to CG, we have never felt like we were treated poorly because of being on the DDP.

WDWfor5
05-24-2007, 09:34 PM
Somehow I dont think its been good for the CMs. I keep hearing that the CM would be rude or just not very nice but the moment they find out your paying OOP, their whole attitude changes for the better. Also been hearing they have been working twice as hard and sometimes have to work 7 days in a row. I guess I will find out 1st hand in Aug 2008, since we arent on the dinning plan.

Even if this is true (which I doubt but anyway) it doesn't mean that DDP isn't good for the servers financially. it just means that the servers know their 18% is guarenteed with DDP and they don't have to "earn it" vs. a non-DDP customer where they need to be extra nice to earn the same 18% tip.

I'm in the let's wait until Disney announces something crowd - until then it's all guesses.

marivaid
05-24-2007, 09:38 PM
We've probably eaten 100 meals in WDW restaurants over the last three years or so -- some on DDP and some OOP. I've never seen bad service that I would attribute to DDP. If anything, I've seen servers going out of their way to be sure I understand DDP. But from the cheapest snack place to CG, we have never felt like we were treated poorly because of being on the DDP.

That was our experience too.
I think a lot depends on the specific circumstances that day. The best server we got, was one night we weren't on the plan. But it was also at 5.30pm in a very empty restaurant. Our "worst" experience was also OOP but it was at 10.30am at a character breafast that closes at 11.

disneyfan2
05-24-2007, 09:45 PM
If they don't include tips anymore, does that mean the DDP rate will go down!:goodvibes

marivaid
05-24-2007, 09:46 PM
If they don't include tips anymore, does that mean the DDP rate will go down!:goodvibes

You'd think. But I doubt it!

Disney8704
05-25-2007, 09:14 AM
Are you kiding? Something in Disney going down in price? I have better chances winning the lottery before that ever happens. If anything it MIGHT stay the same price. But dont count on it.

If they don't include tips anymore, does that mean the DDP rate will go down!:goodvibes

scottishsue
05-25-2007, 10:01 AM
We have been going to WDW every 2nd year for around 12 years now, and have never used the ADP. I don't think I could get use to having to stick to a plan every day of where I was going to eat. It would spoil my vacation.

I think it would be a good idea to scrap the plan - and make the restaurants, first come....... first served.That way there is no discrimination.

We are going to SSR for our first "home" visit next October, and there's no way I will be eating at Disney every single night. I still want to visit International Drive - there are millions of good restaurants there. (If they are good enough for Tiger Woods, they are good enough for me !!)

DisneyGirl4188
05-25-2007, 10:22 AM
I think it would be a good idea to scrap the plan - and make the restaurants, first come....... first served.That way there is no discrimination.



I would hate that. I like making my ADR and knowing what time I need to be at the restaurant. Usually, I don't have a long wait (more often than not the wait is because I got there too early). The waits would be crazy if it weren't for ADR's.


I have also never been treated poorly because of being on the DDP. I have had wonderful service whether I am paying OOP or not.

Disney8704
05-25-2007, 10:31 AM
Regarding having to wait a long time without ADRs, you still have to wait even when you DO have ADRs. So whats the difference? They cant seat you until a table is ready for you. That applies to both ADRs and walk-ups. The waiting time wouldnt be any different. Sept 2003, me and DH made ADR for CRT. No lie, we waited for an hour to be seated and we got there 20 mins before our ADR time.

JimMIA
05-25-2007, 12:02 PM
Regarding having to wait a long time without ADRs, you still have to wait even when you DO have ADRs. So whats the difference? The difference is eating where you want vs. not eating there. I hope you don't think you could have just walked up to CRT and gotten a table by waiting! They don't do waitlists at all there.

I've seen a number of situations where if you didn't have an ADR, you simply were not eating at a particular restaurant. On an early December trip (not even during the real busy season), we were unable to get an ADR for Le Cellier. When I tried to get on a waitlist, I was told they were so booked with CP packages they were not even keeping a waitlist. Several other Epcot restaurants had the same problem.

On that same trip, we saw signs at Town Hall saying there was zero TS availability anywhere at MK for several entire days and nights. And no waitlists anywhere. Needless to say, there were some unhappy visitors blaming everyone but themselves for their lack of planning.

I can understand people not wanting to use DDP because of the need to schedule meals every day. Many people don't like to be tied to a schedule on vacation.

But that's just the way it is. If you want to eat TS, you either make ADRs, or be satisfied with whatever you can get...which may not be what you want.

DisneyGirl4188
05-25-2007, 12:32 PM
Regarding having to wait a long time without ADRs, you still have to wait even when you DO have ADRs. So whats the difference? They cant seat you until a table is ready for you. That applies to both ADRs and walk-ups. The waiting time wouldnt be any different. Sept 2003, me and DH made ADR for CRT. No lie, we waited for an hour to be seated and we got there 20 mins before our ADR time.

I stated previously that I haven't had to wait very long when I have ADR's (unless I arrive too early). I may have to wait 5.

Compare that any local place that doesn't do reservations. The waits can be crazy (1-2 hours). That is just at a local place, imagine what the wait could be like at WDW.

I would imagine the hour wait at CRT was a one time thing. I can't believe that every place would have you waiting that long.

Nancyg56
05-25-2007, 02:42 PM
The difference is eating where you want vs. not eating there. I hope you don't think you could have just walked up to CRT and gotten a table by waiting! They don't do waitlists at all there.

I've seen a number of situations where if you didn't have an ADR, you simply were not eating at a particular restaurant. On an early December trip (not even during the real busy season), we were unable to get an ADR for Le Cellier. When I tried to get on a waitlist, I was told they were so booked with CP packages they were not even keeping a waitlist. Several other Epcot restaurants had the same problem.

On that same trip, we saw signs at Town Hall saying there was zero TS availability anywhere at MK for several entire days and nights. And no waitlists anywhere. Needless to say, there were some unhappy visitors blaming everyone but themselves for their lack of planning.

I can understand people not wanting to use DDP because of the need to schedule meals every day. Many people don't like to be tied to a schedule on vacation.

But that's just the way it is. If you want to eat TS, you either make ADRs, or be satisfied with whatever you can get...which may not be what you want.

I saw this happen a lot and was thankful that I had made ADR's . My DD told me that her DD's T Ball coach left Thursday and is staying at the WL. She did not make one ADR. I would rather chance a longer wait than I expected once or twice than come back without having had the opportunity to take my little bit to a character meal. That would be the reality without ADR's.

bsmcneil
05-25-2007, 06:19 PM
I stated previously that I haven't had to wait very long when I have ADR's (unless I arrive too early). I may have to wait 5.

Compare that any local place that doesn't do reservations. The waits can be crazy (1-2 hours). That is just at a local place, imagine what the wait could be like at WDW.

I would imagine the hour wait at CRT was a one time thing. I can't believe that every place would have you waiting that long.

Also, a 60 minute wait, while getting there 20 minutes early, means that to WDW, you only waited 40 minutes. That's still a bit much (I think 10-20 minutes is normal) but considering it's CRT (with the amount of people, pictures, etc) I'm not surprised at all.

marivaid
05-26-2007, 05:50 AM
Regarding having to wait a long time without ADRs, you still have to wait even when you DO have ADRs. So whats the difference? They cant seat you until a table is ready for you. That applies to both ADRs and walk-ups. The waiting time wouldnt be any different. Sept 2003, me and DH made ADR for CRT. No lie, we waited for an hour to be seated and we got there 20 mins before our ADR time.

We never had to wait for our ADRs more than 10mns but we did schedule them at off times. An hour for CRT??? Geesh. I hope your family enjoyed it once you finally got seated!

pixistix
05-26-2007, 06:28 AM
Disney probably created the DDP because of the ever increasing demand for an all-inclusive vacation. Also to get more people interested and introduced to table service restaurants in WDW.
I can't imagine they would suddenly drop this very successful plan or even inconvenience vacationers by dropping the tip out of the price.
The DDP also probably helps relieve congestion in the parks during busy season. If those people are dining they're not on rides for about an hour and a half.
They do have their work cut out for them trying to work out the kinks of this program.
My family went to WDW last August and tried free dining for the first time. I said it was great, but too much food. Probably wouldn't pay for it. Well, we're going back next month for 10 days and we added the dining plan! (figuring everyone would get sick of CS after about 4 days!)

Cindy B
05-26-2007, 06:34 AM
Remember Disney is in business of making money.

If tips are not included, some may not want to partake of the plan. Some international guests (non US residents) are not aware of the United States tipping policies and have been known to not tip waitstaff because it is not the custom.

To eliminate tips and leaving to guest discretion could in fact lessen the tips that the servers already receive.

Its a union tactic-- pure, plain and simple. (Been there, done that with unions and my jobs--tactics are a way of life)

Disney8704
05-26-2007, 07:06 AM
First off, I was stating what would it be like if there were no ADRs. Not how it is now. Also, those people who were mad because they couldnt get into any place, maybe they didnt know that they had to make ADRs. Maybe Disney or their TA didnt mention it to them. If it wasnt for the DISBoards, I would have never known to make ADRs except for at CRT, cuz I know they dont have a wait list and you have to make an ADR. I have 2 AAA TA working with me, and not one of them have mentioned to me about making ADRs.

The difference is eating where you want vs. not eating there. I hope you don't think you could have just walked up to CRT and gotten a table by waiting! They don't do waitlists at all there.

I've seen a number of situations where if you didn't have an ADR, you simply were not eating at a particular restaurant. On an early December trip (not even during the real busy season), we were unable to get an ADR for Le Cellier. When I tried to get on a waitlist, I was told they were so booked with CP packages they were not even keeping a waitlist. Several other Epcot restaurants had the same problem.

On that same trip, we saw signs at Town Hall saying there was zero TS availability anywhere at MK for several entire days and nights. And no waitlists anywhere. Needless to say, there were some unhappy visitors blaming everyone but themselves for their lack of planning.

I can understand people not wanting to use DDP because of the need to schedule meals every day. Many people don't like to be tied to a schedule on vacation.

But that's just the way it is. If you want to eat TS, you either make ADRs, or be satisfied with whatever you can get...which may not be what you want.

Disney8704
05-26-2007, 07:09 AM
No. That 20 mins early was 20 mins early. I guess I should have said we waited for an hr and 20 mins. Our ADR was I believe at 6pm and we didnt get seated until almost 7:30pm. I remember cuz we rushed through our meal so we could get good seats for SpectroMagic.

Also, a 60 minute wait, while getting there 20 minutes early, means that to WDW, you only waited 40 minutes. That's still a bit much (I think 10-20 minutes is normal) but considering it's CRT (with the amount of people, pictures, etc) I'm not surprised at all.

marivaid
05-26-2007, 07:17 AM
If it wasnt for the DISBoards, I would have never known to make ADRs except for at CRT, cuz I know they dont have a wait list and you have to make an ADR. I have 2 AAA TA working with me, and not one of them have mentioned to me about making ADRs.

It stinks that your TAs didn't tell you about ADRs. When I booked on the phone I was told about them. And when you book online you get this message on your "My Vacation" page :

Time to make your dining plans!
There are many wonderful choices to make for your dining plans, from family-style fun to gourmet delights with specialties from around the globe. It's a good idea to call now and make your Reservations arrangements.
Visit our exclusive Dining Finder to explore all our restaurants, then call (407) WDW-DINE (939-3463) to book your reservations today!

JimMIA
05-26-2007, 10:28 AM
Also, those people who were mad because they couldnt get into any place, maybe they didnt know that they had to make ADRs. Maybe Disney or their TA didnt mention it to them. If it wasnt for the DISBoards, I would have never known to make ADRs except for at CRT, cuz I know they dont have a wait list and you have to make an ADR. I have 2 AAA TA working with me, and not one of them have mentioned to me about making ADRs.I'm sure you're right about many of the people just not knowing. There is a huge learning curve about WDW, and the more trips you make the better you get at it. Often, even though Disney does everything they can, the guest just doesn't get it. Last year, Disney Dining was calling people on free dining -- telling them to make ADRs or risk not eating -- and many of those people ignored the warnings! Folks have a ton of details to take care of on a Disney trip and they don't necessarily hear everything they're told.

But there are also thousands of people in the parks each day who have made their hotel ressies, gotten airfare and a rental car, and just show up.

It's a shame your travel agents let you down, but that's not an uncommon problem. TAs have a huge learning curve, too, and "pobody's nerfect." I have a good friend whose business is to travel around the US teaching TAs the ins and outs of putting together Hawaiian vacations. Some travel markets are so complex (and Disney is one of those) that the TA really does need specialized knowledge.

Boards like the DIS are obviously great sources of information, and anyone who spends a few hours here will get a lot of good information that may save them considerable inconvenience at WDW.

I've found my best TA is me. If I had to use someone like AAA to get a certain rate, I'd make all of the other arrangements myself to be sure everything was good.

Carol Ann
05-26-2007, 05:03 PM
I've found my best TA is me. If I had to use someone like AAA to get a certain rate, I'd make all of the other arrangements myself to be sure everything was good.

Amen to that. I used AAA to book a discounted package, and actually I had a very knowledgeable TA who knew about free dining (asked if I could change my dates to save money, sadly I can't), and the packet of information had stuff on making dining reservations. She even as a person in her office who will make reservations for you!!! But, no. For me, I need to do the details myself. I could never do business travel where a central office or secretary coordinated this.

Colleen27
05-26-2007, 09:16 PM
That was our experience too.
I think a lot depends on the specific circumstances that day. The best server we got, was one night we weren't on the plan. But it was also at 5.30pm in a very empty restaurant. Our "worst" experience was also OOP but it was at 10.30am at a character breafast that closes at 11.

We only had one experience that was bad, and it wasn't terribly bad, just slow and not the sort of service we expect. That was in a very, very crowded restaurant at what is typically the lull between the lunch & dinner crowds, and from bits and pieces of a conversation I heard between the hostess and a server, I gathered that most of the crowd was walk-ups and they weren't expecting that kind of volume that afternoon. We also had 3 very good experiences with servers who advised us on wines (particularly at Boma) and provided excellent service. So of 5 TS meals, 3 were memorably good, one was memorably slow, and one must have been adequate but not impressive since I don't remember how the service was at all. If that is the inferior service that DDP guests get, I'll be *really* impressed with the non-DDP treatment! :laughing:

Colleen27
05-26-2007, 09:31 PM
Regarding having to wait a long time without ADRs, you still have to wait even when you DO have ADRs. So whats the difference? They cant seat you until a table is ready for you. That applies to both ADRs and walk-ups. The waiting time wouldnt be any different. Sept 2003, me and DH made ADR for CRT. No lie, we waited for an hour to be seated and we got there 20 mins before our ADR time.

But at restaurants that don't take reservations, the waits are even longer because there is no control on the pacing of arriving guests. ADRs allow Disney to control the inflow of guests to some extent, because they will only make as many ADRs as the venue can handle based on typical meal lengths and customer behaviours. We've never had to wait longer than about 20 minutes after our ADR time, which is a reasonable wait time IMO.

There is a popular local restaurant in our area that doesn't take reservations. It isn't unusual to find a hour or hour and a half waitlist on weeknights and up to 2.5 hours during the dinner rush on weekend nights, and you just have to sit around all that time waiting for your table. It isn't bad there because they have a nice indoor/ourdoor bar area, live music, and a great waterview, which is fine for a leisurely Saturday night, but that's not how I want to spend my Disney time.

CouchFamily1998
05-27-2007, 09:45 PM
Our friend worked as a chief in the CP and he says the wait staff make more on the DDP. Like someone said before many people from other countries don't know to tip. Plus the times the get stiffed from Americans. Here at home I only tip 15%. That is less than the 18% on the plan. Now before anyone flames me 15% is the norm for my area. If it is really good service than we go up more. DH is a casino dealer and works for tips so we are good about tipping.

LindyN
05-27-2007, 10:22 PM
My trip in 2000 was on a package and it included dining (this was my last package). Disney has always had some sort of dining in their packages, at least for the past seven years. It may not be the exact same thing as what they have now, but they're going to give guests the option to have meals pre-paid. Back then you had credits and could exchange it for child care, recreation, or food. (We selected food).

The DDP as we know it may be reincarnated... but there will be some sort of dining option.

JMO.

Tiffany
05-28-2007, 03:54 PM
Somehow I dont think its been good for the CMs. I keep hearing that the CM would be rude or just not very nice but the moment they find out your paying OOP, their whole attitude changes for the better. Also been hearing they have been working twice as hard and sometimes have to work 7 days in a row. I guess I will find out 1st hand in Aug 2008, since we arent on the dinning plan.

I can tell you that is has not been our experiance. We have traveled to WDW many times since the DDP started and some trips we were on the DDP and some we were not, we just had our DDE card. The level of service received was always good or better. They ask if you are on the DDP so that they can explain the rules to you, but if you say yes but we are all set and just charge us for anything we order that this not on the plan, everything went smoothly.