Finding Nemo Musical Photos??

[Diz-Mommy]

OKay, so I know we wern't suppose to take pictures during the show, and I didn't.

But now I'm trying to put together a slide show to share with friends and family and I bought the Finding Nemo "The musical" soundtrack to go with my slide show and I'd really like to have a few pictures of the actual show...

Does anyone have a few pics to share??

Purty Please with a blinking TinkerBell clipie on top??:flower3:

[Groucho]

Try checking the official Disney sites. I doubt you'll find much in the way of amateur photos, and those that you did find would probably be pretty poor quality. It's almost too bad, we had seats about three rows back from the stage, right next to the runway in the middle, it would have been a terrific place to take some photos from. It was a great show!

They had some video of it in the updated Animal Kingdom one-hour show on the Travel Channel. I can make a screencap of it (I recorded the actual digital stream off the show coming off the satellite) but the resolution is all of 480x480, which is stretched to 640x480 to get the proper aspect ratio, so they'd look pretty awful.

[jcriket]

My dd boyfriend got a bit of video, before they caught him, and made him put it away. I'll see if he has anything good.

[MarkBarbieri]

It would be possible for someone sitting fairly close using a DSLR to turn off their LCD, discretely hold their camera in their lap, and take shots without aiming. Not that anyone would do that. I'm just saying that it would be possible. :rolleyes1

[Gdad]

I was promptly scolded for taking a picture before the curtain even opened. :rolleyes1

[MarkBarbieri]

I was promptly scolded for taking a picture before the curtain even opened.

You've got to be more discrete. No one ever scolded me for taking any pictures there. Not that I did, of course. I'd never do that.

Sadly, if I had, which of course I would never have done, they probably wouldn't have come out very well. Aiming and shooting wouldn't be all that hard, but metering could be tough, especially for such a low light show.

If I had to not do it again, I'd go for high ISO, evaluative metering (after all, you can't choose what your are metering off of), and I'd tell it to underexpose by 2/3 stops. I'd also use a relatively narrow aperture to help compensate for focus differences. Something like ISO 1000, AV at f/5.6, AF, and -2/3 exposure compensation. But, of course, I'd never do that.

[Gdad]

I really was not even aware of the photo restriction at the time. They made the announcement a few minutes later. I was thinking it was the typical no FLASH photography rule. :rolleyes:

What are they worried about with that rule anyway? Plenty of other shows are fine with it- FOTLK even allows flashes if one wanted to try using one. :confused3

[Groucho]

Finding Nemo is more like a true "Broadway show" than any other show I've seen at Disney (not that I've seen them all, but I've seen a fair number of them), I wonder if it's a combination of that (no photography at a Broadway show!) and that the show is so new... I'm sure that they're aware that all their rides and shows before then can easily be found on the internet, they'd much prefer people to come see it in person rather than see it in a crummy-quality video on the internet, especially if that makes them think that the show looks lousy.

I still can't figure out why they said no photography at all on Carousel of Progress, though!

[Gdad]

I still can't figure out why they said no photography at all on Carousel of Progress, though!

I didn't know that either- now that's funny. I can't even remember the last time i was on that thing. :rolleyes:

[MarkBarbieri]

A really cynical person, like myself, might say that it's because the show isn't very good (by Disney standards) and they don't want people to see that before they've paid their money.

My real guess is that the theater conditions make it very important that the actors not be distracted by bright lights. Even if you ban flash photographry, many yahoos can't figure out how to turn off their flash and/or autofocus assist lights.

Another guess might be that they are using some form of light or infrared sensitive gear in the show somehow and cameras interfere with that.

The CoP thing (which annoyed my last time I was there) was truly pointless. I suspect that was just some idiot changing rules around because he/she couldn't think of something useful to do.

[Jeanne B]

I only got 2 pics before they stopped me but they didn't come out that great IMO (and I didn't hear the announcement BTW, I just assumed no flash). What irritated me is that throughout the rest of show after I was told I couldn't use my camera there were flashes going off left and right (and I wasn't using flash, very pointless as we all know).

[boBQuincy]

An also cynical person like myself might think that this is Disney's way of testing the waters to see if a ban on some photography will fly, or if it will result in numerous complaints.

I don't buy the idea where since they can't stop people from using flash, that it's easier to stop all photography. This is Disney, come up with an innovative solution!

As for "Carousel", the rules seem to change with the CM in charge at the time.
I wonder what they would do if everyone started takng photos at the same time? "Yes folks, it's a movement..." ;)

[Groucho]

The Carousel of Progress Massacree? :rolleyes1 In three-shutter harmony?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that CoP was the one ride that Walt wanted to stay open forever. I'm not sure if it's true or not, but who knows. Of course, Disneyland got rid of theirs to put in a mostly dull (IMHO) bunch of stuff. (Excluding Asimo, which is cool though I didn't see it live.)

No photography is probably somewhat a CM thing. I think I've mentioned before that I heard to "no photography" rule on Tower of Terror in California, but never in Florida, and we've all seen times where one CM says one thing one time and another says something else at another time.

Either way, I'm in the "keep CoP" camp. Without CoP, would there still be a great, big, beautiful tomorrow??? :confused3

[Master Mason]

Of course, Disneyland got rid of theirs to put in a mostly dull (IMHO) bunch of stuff. (Excluding Asimo, which is cool though I didn't see it live.)


yea but our submarine ride opens back up this weekend...

I went in the inoventions which is what they call it last time I was there. It had some neet stuff, but I liked the CoP better from when I was a kid....

[MarkBarbieri]

Of course, Disneyland got rid of theirs

I'm pretty sure that they just shipped theirs to the MK, which is where the one there came from. It was originally part of the 1964 World's Fair.

[Groucho]

Looks like you're right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carousel_of_Progress), I had assumed that it was a more recent shutdown based on the building being still so obviously the former CoP one, when I was there in 2005. My last DL trip was probably 1982 or so so I didn't remember much about from back then. :) I hoped to get back there later this year but I don't think it's going to happen at this point. But I might be squeezing in a multiday solo WDW trip early next year, so that might help tide me over. :) We will be heading back to DL before too long, though.

[GrowingUpDisney]

I got three shots in before they told me no photography. I thought they said "flash" photography during the spill in the beginning. Oh well, here they are for what they are worth....

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e304/SpareTime/NemotheMuscialsmall.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e304/SpareTime/ForbiddenNemoPic2small2.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e304/SpareTime/ForbiddenNemoPicsmall.jpg

[Diz-Mommy]

Thank you "GrowingupDisney". I will ad these to my slide along with the picture Mark didn't take :rolleyes1

[Jeanne B]

Here's the two that I mentioned earlier that I took, just got them downloaded to photobucket. I'm sure the picture that Mark didn't take came out a lot better.:)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/jtbonin/Disney_Nov06265.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/jtbonin/Disney_Nov06264.jpg

[MarkBarbieri]

m sure the picture that Mark didn't take came out a lot better.

Nah, if I'd taken any, they would have come out hopelessly bad. I wanted to apply the lessons that I learned from my first visit, but no one in my group had any interest in seeing the show again.

[boBQuincy]

Nah, if I'd taken any, they would have come out hopelessly bad. I wanted to apply the lessons that I learned from my first visit, but no one in my group had any interest in seeing the show again.

That's what I'm getting from the photos and the text, that the show isn't worth seeing or photographing. That's a shame, "Tarzan Rocks" was good, at least until the singers started taking major liberties with Phil Collin's music.

[MarkBarbieri]

I thought Tarzan Rocks was way too loud. Then again, it may have just been that I'm too old.

[Diz-Mommy]

Really!? I thought the Nemo Musical was amazing, and so did my oldest little boy. But we are HUGE Nemo fans, so perhaps that had something to do with it.:confused3

Personally I don't think the old Tarzan show holds a candle to the new Nemo show. I thought the puppetry was genius and the woman that played Dory was HILARIUS!! I probably would have seen this twice if we would have had more time.

We bought the music CD while we were in DTD too, so that's our new bath time music. The songs are so cute.

[Diz-Mommy]

I really need to get myself to a photography class before our trip in 08', because all of this is Greek to me:upsidedow

If I had to not do it again, I'd go for high ISO, evaluative metering (after all, you can't choose what your are metering off of), and I'd tell it to underexpose by 2/3 stops. I'd also use a relatively narrow aperture to help compensate for focus differences. Something like ISO 1000, AV at f/5.6, AF, and -2/3 exposure compensation. But, of course, I'd never do that.

I'm curious, what is your camera of choice Mark??

[MarkBarbieri]

I'm curious, what is your camera of choice Mark??

My current camera is a Canon 1D Mark II. The current version of it is the Canon Mark III. It's a bit on the expensive side. It is fantastic for taking action shots, having an extremely fast and accurate focus system and the ability to take more than 8 shots in a second.

I would not recommend it for a beginner. Aside from the price, it has no "auto" mode, is rather heavy and bulky, and can be complicated to use.

You can do everything I mentioned below with any DSLR. You might have to adjust the numbers a bit, but not in a way that would be all that important in this scenario.

[MarkBarbieri]

I'd go for high ISO, evaluative metering (after all, you can't choose what your are metering off of), and I'd tell it to underexpose by 2/3 stops. I'd also use a relatively narrow aperture to help compensate for focus differences. Something like ISO 1000, AV at f/5.6, AF, and -2/3 exposure compensation.

Here's why. The high ISO means that the camera doesn't need much light to take a picture. Overall, the show isn't that bright (compared with people standing outside). It also involves motion, so you need a relatively high shutter speed to stop that.

The performers are relatively brightly lit but the background is very dark. If you use evaluative metering, it'll overexpose becaues so much of what you are shooting is dark background and the camera will try to let in enough light to make the background look brighter. To compensate, you tell your camera to underexpose or let in less light than it thinks is necessary.

Normally, you would get around this problem by switching to a metering mode that didn't pay so much attention to the background, but those modes assume that you'll be aiming at your subject. If you are shooting from your lap without looking at your camera, your aim is bound to be bad, so you can't rely on center-weighted, partial spot, or spot metering.

The F/5.6 aperture on a moderately wide angle lens (can't zoom in too tight when you can't aim) lets there be a pretty good range of the picture in focus. This way if your focus is off by a little, you are still OK. You could use a higher f-stop to allow more of the photo to be in focus, but at some point you start to run into problems with the shutter speed being too long.

Another approach would be to set your ISO as high as is acceptable with your camera, set the shutter speed to something that will do a reasonable job of stopping motion (1/125?) and take your chances on the aperture. Maybe it would be best to look at the EXIF of the pictures posted here to get a better idea of where the exposure sweet spot is for this show.

Of course, I'm not recommending that anyone photograph something that they've been told not to. That would be wrong. I just thought it would be interesting to think about how to do it.

[Diz-Mommy]

Of course, I'm not recommending that anyone photograph something that they've been told not to. That would be wrong. I just thought it would be interesting to think about how to do it.

:rotfl: I bet you're a riot in Disney. You wouldn't believe the butt chewing I got from a CM because I took a picture of an empty sea shell cart getting off the Nemo ride in Epcot. For a minute I thought she was going to send me to time-out.;)

Your pictures are amazing, so you obviously know what you're doing.

We have a Canon Rebel Digital SLR... I've heard my husband say SLR anyhow...so I think that's what we have :confused3 Sadly, I use it on auto-shot, auto-focus most of the time because my photography skills are VERY limited. I'm going to have to look in my Canon Book my DH bought me to figure out what all the terms in your last post mean. Seriously, my goal is to get better with this camera BEFORE our next trip. 507 days to go!!:banana:

[Diz-Mommy]

Opps!! I forgot to say thank you to Jeanne B for sharing her pictures as well. THANK YOU!:thumbsup2

[mhutchinson]

It would be possible for someone sitting fairly close using a DSLR to turn off their LCD, discretely hold their camera in their lap, and take shots without aiming. Not that anyone would do that. I'm just saying that it would be possible. :rolleyes1


Tried that and got bagged.....

doesn't mean I won't try again with a fast prime to make it even more discrete... pirate:

[boBQuincy]

:rotfl: I bet you're a riot in Disney. You wouldn't believe the butt chewing I got from a CM because I took a picture of an empty sea shell cart getting off the Nemo ride in Epcot. For a minute I thought she was going to send me to time-out.;)

The CMs are very inconsistent, I took this photo with the CM watching me and smiling all the time.

http://www.mindspring.com/~edwardteach/Images/nemo_1787.jpg

[Groucho]

I took a bunch of pictures in the queue on on the ride for the new Nemo ride (in the old Living Seas pavilion), there were no warnings not to. Unfortunately, I wasn't happy with them (I don't know why I pretty much never shot shutter priority when I was there... argh), but there was no problem. Someone one or two clammobiles away was clicking away with their flash... grrr!

As for the Finding Nemo stage show, I thought that it was fantastic, and my wife declared it the best thing she'd seen so far on this past trip. It probably didn't hurt that we were right at the front so we could see very well.

After the show, while one of our party stopped for a potty break, I was able to easily see through one of the walls backstage and nabbed this shot:

http://www.totalsham.com/pics/main.php/d/4757-4/2007WDW-326.jpg

That looks like a parade float, but I'm not sure. It wasn't in the stage show, and I have only seen a little bit of the AK parade but I don't remember seeing it there. :confused3 I also don't remember Nemo/Marlin meet-n-greets being promoted? How'd you like to be the poor CM who gets to climb in those and drive around in 100' weather...! (I assume someone goes inside...)

[Diz-Mommy]

Interesting!! My son would have absolutley been on :cloud9: if he could have gotten that close to Nemo!! I wonder if it is a character "meet n' greet" type contraption. You saw this backstage where the Nemo musical is or where the parade comes out??

We've seen the Jammin' Jungle parade before, but didn't make time for it this trip. I don't recall Nemo being in it unless they added him after adding the Musical. Perhaps they switched out the Tarzan characters in it??:confused3

[MarkBarbieri]

So does anyone have a realistic guess as to why they don't allow photography at this show but allow it all the others? They own Pixar now, so it's not a rights question (unless it is something obscure like the Pooh merchandise rights thing).

[Groucho]

This was by the exit from the stage show, to the right. There's a big wooden door that can be opened, I'm guessing that the parade goes on or off there (without breaking out my park maps to check - or the fancy customized free ones that I got from Disney recently, which are very nice BTW.) There are gaps by the hinges wide enough to easily see back there.

My 2-year-2-month-old is crazy about "Mee-mo" at the moment too, and can recite some of the lines when watching it. It's almost scary. :)

[Diz-Mommy]

Mark, my only guess would be that it is new and they want people to be all hyped up to see it without seeing pictures first. Sort of the way DH found all the pictures of Epcot's Flower and Garden Festival BEFORE our trip and I wouldn't look at them, because I wanted to see them in person first. I know lame and lame guess, but that's all I got:angel:

Groucho- I SOOOOO know what you mean. I can recite the entire movie and I'm almost good enough to sing the entire Muscial now too since we bought the CD and it's our "baf time" music. I think I'd make an excellent Dory...you think they'd let me on stage in Dec of 08'??:yay:

[MarkBarbieri]

It's interesting how tastes vary. Not one person in my six person group even found the show to be OK. Even the kids (who really weren't fans of the movie) were unimpressed.

I attributed the biggest problem with it to the music. Most of the other shows were based on musical movies that had really expensive scores written for them. I figured they had to go cheap writing up the music for something that would only be a theme park attraction.

Of course, I'm someone that likes the Carousel of Progress, so my opinion really shouldn't be trusted.

[Snurk71]

I don't recall if Aladdin at DCA allows pictures either, as Disney's lead near-broadway-quality park show. I seem to remember people videoing Aladdin. And I think people were taking pictures. But I can't remember for sure.

Maybe Master Mason can comment since it's in his neck of the woods.

[Master Mason]

I really don't know. I have been in DCA only a couple of times, and it wasn't running the last time I was there.

[Master Mason]

Of course, I'm someone that likes the Carousel of Progress, so my opinion really shouldn't be trusted.

hey walt liked it so your in good company

[Groucho]

I attributed the biggest problem with it to the music. Most of the other shows were based on musical movies that had really expensive scores written for them. I figured they had to go cheap writing up the music for something that would only be a theme park attraction.
They did hire a Tony-award-winning songwriter to do the score, and the guy who did the Lion King Broadway show puppets to do the puppets... I don't think they cheaped out at all.

It sounds like they wouldn't find if it gets expanded to a full Broadway show in the future... we'll see.

But if there's one thing that is not universal, it's musical tastes!

[LPZ_Stitch!]

They did hire a Tony-award-winning songwriter to do the score, and the guy who did the Lion King Broadway show puppets to do the puppets... I don't think they cheaped out at all.

It sounds like they wouldn't find if it gets expanded to a full Broadway show in the future... we'll see.

But if there's one thing that is not universal, it's musical tastes!

Yeah ... I'm someone else who's continually surprised that so many people call Nemo the *worst* show on Disney property (ignoring those who call it the worst they've *ever* seen :rotfl: ).

I was sorry to see Tarzan go, I liked that show a lot, too.

But, I think Nemo was an *excellent* show. The puppets were great, just like the ones from the Broadway "Lion King" and, although I can't think of any of the music, now, I don't have any negative feelings towards it.

So ... does anyone have any idea why there's NO photography? I hope it's not a Disney trend....

[iHEARTflorida]

why arn't you allowed to take photos during the show?

[MrsHeg]

I'll share some photos I have that were taken before we were informed that no photos were allowed with or without flash, :confused3

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/MrsHeg/Picture098.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/MrsHeg/Picture099.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h136/MrsHeg/Picture101.jpg