should SSR reallocate?

[rantnnravin]

does anyone else think SSR should reallocate points so that there are preferred and standard locations?

[bobbiwoz]

I don't own at SSR, but I have always thought that the views/distances would be so disparate that some sort of adjustment would be needed to satisfy owners.

Bobbi:goodvibes

[starbox]

I'd love a lower point option, but I don't want points to go UP elsewhere.
I also think Grandstand is a premier location. I'd say Grandstand, the Springs and Congress Park are the top three sections.

[SCDizneyDawn]

I think even in the preferred locations there are standard views in the rooms on the outer edge of the building that over look the parking lots. We stayed in Congress park but only had a view of the parking lot. Did not make me want to sit on the balcony and relax with my coffee like I normally do.

[LIFERBABE]

I love SSR, but I would support a change to the point structure.

Owners should get priority booking windows for DTD views and maybe the Preferred Golf Views of the Grandstand Buildings.

I dont think that those that complain about having to stay at SSR as their last resort should get prime locations and views, when you cant get standard views or Boardwalk views without being an owner.

I think the Carousel should be reserved for non owners booking at less than 7 months that cant get into their home resort:rotfl:

[rantnnravin]

did BWV always have standard and preferred or was there a shakeup a few years in?
i mean, is it completely unheard of to re-allocate?
it just seems to me that many seem to request Springs, DTD view, or, now Grandstand and i think there should be a points chart that reflects those "preferences"
i think if standard view was a point or two fewer and preferred view went up accordingly, i really don't think the points would be too out of whack.
that way, you get what you "want" or don't mind the trade-off of location vs points usage.
i just can't see paying the same high points amount for less of a view/location.

[starbox]

i just can't see paying the same high points amount for less of a view/location.

But this exists at every single resort. Everyplace has parking lot, bus-stop, or dumpster views that cost the same as other views. Unless there's a really obvious difference - like Savanna or Boardwalk views - it just seems a little excessive and complicated to try to categorize the views and points.

[Caskbill]

I don't understand how the Grandstand was grouped with Carrousel.

Grandstand is closer to the main pool area than sections of Congress Park or The Paddock. Also from the Grandstand it's an easy walk to the Springs bus stop, so when going to the parks there's no trip through the resort first, and when coming back from the parks, the Grandstand bus stop is the first stop.

We were at the Grandstand a week ago and thought it was a great location.

And the pool area at the Grandstand is better than any of the other satellite pools.

Not all the villas in the Congress Park area actually have DD views so charging more points for that area would meet with complaints from those who got less than DD views.

The Paddock area has great views toward the water, but are further from the Springs area. Should they pay more points for their water views?

There's something good about every area. And things less desirable about every area.

[rantnnravin]

I don't understand how the Grandstand was grouped with Carrousel.

that was kind of my point-- they both cost the same amount of points and yet are leagues apart.

i'm not saying to make certain sections of the resort preferred/standard, but rather if someone wants a guaranteed location/view - like BWV has bwv, preferred view and standard view

[dvc_john]

did BWV always have standard and preferred or was there a shakeup a few years in?
i mean, is it completely unheard of to re-allocate?


BWV started with just one category. Not too long after opening, they created the standard/preferred designations. The points stayed the same for preferred, but were lower for standard. No real re-allocation took place. They could do it without a re-allocation because they still had a long way to go in sales, and could make the adjustment via amount of points to be sold. Then still later Boardwalk view became a guaranteed view category, but no point re-allocation was necessary since the point requirement stayed the same. The only real re-allocation was at OKW (in 1996 I think?). It was fairly minimal changes, with some things going up a point or two, and others going down. No other re-allocation has taken place since.

To change SSR would take a true re-allocation (unlike BWV) since sales are probably too far along to adjust the way BWV was.

[pb4ugo]

that was kind of my point-- they both cost the same amount of points and yet are leagues apart.

i'm not saying to make certain sections of the resort preferred/standard, but rather if someone wants a guaranteed location/view - like BWV has bwv, preferred view and standard view

One thing I have learned about owning DVC - there are NO guarantees!:smokin:

[bavaria]

I just returned from a stay in the 2nd to last Grandstand building to open. I was at the far end, just across from Treehouse Villas.

Frankly, I had to almost beg to get a room AWAY from the main areas. MS insisted on putting a request on my reservation to be 'close', and at check in the CM also tried to convince me to take something close in, or at least one of the closer Grandstand buildings.

I loved the solitude, and those last two buildings will always be my preference. Yet many others will find them 'too far of a walk' etc. Preference is definitely a personal thing!

[wisbucky]

This just goes to show you that each area at SSR has something to offer to everyone. Not everyone wants to stay near the main pool and not everyone wants to overlook DTD. DH and I love the view of DTD. Being able to sit outside in the morning and look over DTD is one of the biggest thrills for us. We want tranquility when we are at Disney in the resorts. Others want all the action right in front of them 24 hours a day. Im gald that SSR has areas that are all a little different.

[rantnnravin]

I loved the solitude, and those last two buildings will always be my preference. Yet many others will find them 'too far of a walk' etc. Preference is definitely a personal thing!

and wouldn't it be great if you didn't have to use as many points for them!?!

[jarestel]

I wouldn't mind seeing preferred and standard categories, but I don't see a need to reallocate the point structure. As LIFERBABE suggested, if SSR owners' requests were filled prior to the non-owners' requests, I believe this would be satisfactory in the majority of cases.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing all resorts go to the "owners" first system. Wouldn't be difficult to do and gives the people who actually pay the dues at a specific resort another nice benefit.

[CarolMN]

.....(snip)...I actually wouldn't mind seeing all resorts go to the "owners" first system. Wouldn't be difficult to do and gives the people who actually pay the dues at a specific resort another nice benefit.I would like this, too - but I'm not so sure it would be easy to do, because apparently there are many more members who prefer to get into their rooms early (rather than getting a view request granted).

DVC used to assign rooms according to the date the reservation was made (which would give most owners view preference over non-owners who had to wait to book until the 7 month window opened). It wasn't perfect, because what was available for assignment depended on how many were available on the day you checked in and the number of requests. But the chances of getting a request were greater if you were an owner who booked early in the reservation window.

DVC reportedly said that the front desk and lobbies were innudated with people who wanted to get into a room asap (early in the day). So DVC decided to go with a "room ready" means of assigning rooms. In other words, if there are rooms that are cleaned and ready for occupancy when you check in, that's what you get. There are still some rooms that are preassigned (medical, HA requests, for example), but most are not.

[Dean]

As noted above, BWV did open with all rooms being the higher points costs. But when enough people complained DVD decided to lower some without raising others. They could do this be eating the $$$ and since they were still in sales. They simply sold less points than they had originally intended. We've had this discussion previously about either area requests or having a graduated points structure. I doubt DVC or the members will see it reasonable to raise points at any locations to lower others. They would have had to do that earlier in the course by selling less points just like at BWV. But what I could see happening is having different booking categories just like at BWV with the points being all the same or at AKV. And given the size of the resort, I think it's be easier and cheaper to do than most similar suggestions we see on DIS for various resort issues, esp with the all NS now. They would just have 4 or 5 categories that correspond the the various sections. That way you know exactly what you got or didn't up front. No requests, no arguing. And you could wait list for a different area if need be.

[Doug7856]

As noted above, BWV did open with all rooms being the higher points costs. But when enough people complained DVD decided to lower some without raising others. They could do this be eating the $$$ and since they were still in sales. They simply sold less points than they had originally intended. We've had this discussion previously about either area requests or having a graduated points structure. I doubt DVC or the members will see it reasonable to raise points at any locations to lower others. They would have had to do that earlier in the course by selling less points just like at BWV. But what I could see happening is having different booking categories just like at BWV with the points being all the same or at AKV. And given the size of the resort, I think it's be easier and cheaper to do than most similar suggestions we see on DIS for various resort issues, esp with the all NS now. They would just have 4 or 5 categories that correspond the the various sections. That way you know exactly what you got or didn't up front. No requests, no arguing. And you could wait list for a different area if need be.


This would be my choice but it wasn't an option for the poll. I would like to be able to book in a specific section and know that is where I will be staying!

[bobbiwoz]

Dean, are you saying when you book, you book Congress Park or Springs...same points as is, but you know that that's where you will be? I would be fine with that.

Bobbi:goodvibes

[Dean]

Dean, are you saying when you book, you book Congress Park or Springs...same points as is, but you know that that's where you will be? I would be fine with that.

Bobbi:goodvibesexactly.

[jarestel]

I would like this, too - but I'm not so sure it would be easy to do, because apparently there are many more members who prefer to get into their rooms early (rather than getting a view request granted).

Yes, I've been around long enough to remember the great room-ready vs assigned room wars. It would be easy to do, since as you point out it used to be done this way, but I agree that DVC may not want to do this. Not due to any overwhelming demand from members but simply because it's easier for them to hand out available rooms as guests check in rather than go through the bother of pre-assigning them.

Member demand has been used more than once to justify actions taken by DVC and oddly enough very few members who post here ever remember being asked. Hmmm...

[drakethib]

But this exists at every single resort. Everyplace has parking lot, bus-stop, or dumpster views that cost the same as other views. Unless there's a really obvious difference - like Savanna or Boardwalk views - it just seems a little excessive and complicated to try to categorize the views and points.


Agree

[DisneyFreaks]

I love SSR, but I would support a change to the point structure.
Owners should get priority booking windows for DTD views and maybe the Preferred Golf Views of the Grandstand Buildings.
I dont think that those that complain about having to stay at SSR as their last resort should get prime locations and views, when you cant get standard views or Boardwalk views without being an owner.
I think the Carousel should be reserved for non owners booking at less than 7 months that cant get into their home resort:rotfl:

I definitely agree!!!

[TenThousandVolts]

Dean, are you saying when you book, you book Congress Park or Springs...same points as is, but you know that that's where you will be? I would be fine with that. exactly.
I wish they would do this. I am an SSR owner and I would be far less likey to go for a 7 month switch if I knew I had a guaranteed DTD view.

[simzac]

I just returned from a stay in the 2nd to last Grandstand building to open. I was at the far end, just across from Treehouse Villas.

Frankly, I had to almost beg to get a room AWAY from the main areas. MS insisted on putting a request on my reservation to be 'close', and at check in the CM also tried to convince me to take something close in, or at least one of the closer Grandstand buildings.

I loved the solitude, and those last two buildings will always be my preference. Yet many others will find them 'too far of a walk' etc. Preference is definitely a personal thing!

Sounds like just the place I want to stay at when we eventually stay at SSR. We love to be far away from the hub bub.:goodvibes

[IndianaMouseLover]

I love SSR, but I would support a change to the point structure.

Owners should get priority booking windows for DTD views and maybe the Preferred Golf Views of the Grandstand Buildings.

I dont think that those that complain about having to stay at SSR as their last resort should get prime locations and views, when you cant get standard views or Boardwalk views without being an owner.

I think the Carousel should be reserved for non owners booking at less than 7 months that cant get into their home resort:rotfl:

I agree with everything you mentioned. I would really support the priority booking window for the DTD views for owners of SSR.:banana:

[mello]

I've been saying that ever since we saw the Carousel section. I love SSR, but imho, Carousel really needs a lower point value.

[mello]

But this exists at every single resort. Everyplace has parking lot, bus-stop, or dumpster views that cost the same as other views. Unless there's a really obvious difference - like Savanna or Boardwalk views - it just seems a little excessive and complicated to try to categorize the views and points.

I agree that all the resorts have more and less favorable views, and I agree with what you said about obvious differences. I think all the sections of SSR have the same small disparity in views that the other resorts have, but the big disparity is more about the location. Everything is pretty central to something, or has something to recommend it - be it a pool, or the golf course, or DTD, except Carousel. It's pretty far from everything, and there are no amenities out there. Now I don't mind walking, and dh and I walked all around the entire property, and it's a beautiful walk, but I'd hate to have to do that walk from Carousel to everything else each time I wanted to refill a mug, for instance. If they don't restructure the points, they at least need to give Carousel a hot tub and a drink refill station, or let guests there have free bike rentals, or something. There just needs to be something to make people want to stay there.

[mello]

exactly.

That could work nicely.

[Dean]

While every resorts has room with better view, locations, etc; only BWV and VB have locations that rival SSR as defining the haves and have nots IMO. This isn't the case of a single or few rooms being far worse from a location and view standpoint but a large resort with at least a third of the buildings being in a far inferior location (IMO and apparently in others as well) compared to the rest. IMO it would be far more fair to the owners at that resort to be able to book the location they want. This could easily be done without upsetting the points balance and in the situation described, with little if any manpower dedicated to doing so.

[NYMomof4]

One of the main reasons that we like the DVC resorts is for the resort itself (the main pool, community hall at some, etc...) I always travel with kids and a good part of our stay is at the resort vs. day and night at the parks. To be far out at Carousel would really put a damper on the vacation. We have stayed in The Springs and Congress Park so far and loved both locations. Grandstand looks to be a winner too, and the Paddocks have amenities. I like both ideas (lowering points somehow or even raising to guarantee a section if need be) and giving owners some guarantee at booking or arriving.

[mwehttam]

IMO it would be far more fair to the owners at that resort to be able to book the location they want. This could easily be done without upsetting the points balance and in the situation described, with little if any manpower dedicated to doing so.

That would be ideal. When DW and I check in for our July stay at SSR I have no problem to wait for a room if it means a location I prefer (for this trip, the Springs).

-Matt

[rantnnravin]

wow! a 50-50 split!

[bobbiwoz]

wow! a 50-50 split!

I'm surprised. I voted for the reduced point structure, but I would be happy if you could book an area and be guaranteed to get that area.

Bobbi

[Starr W.]

Okay if we can be guaranteed a location(Congress Park, Springs or Grandstand) that would work for me.

If they redid the points required for certain areas, to balance things out they may drop for Carousel, but increase Springs, Grandstand or CP.

[Geezer]

I don't see that SSR is different from OKW now. There are a few studios at OKW that don't have a view, but they are the same points as one that has. I don't see that SSR is any different from that unless there are a lot of parking lot views.

[emlutz23]

I really don't think a new point structure is necessary. I stayed in the Paddocks last time and had a beautiful view. And I thought it was very convenient that we just walked over the bridge and crossed the road to get to everything. It's all about perspective. What seems liks a long walk to some may be just fine for others.

We used to stay in the FW cabins a lot before we joined DVC and we usually had to rely on the internal bus service there to get around the resort. I like that at SSR I can walk from wherever I'm staying.

I'm just so happy to be at Disney, I don't really care where I am! :banana: So go ahead and request your DTD views and short walks, you won't get competition from me! :goodvibes

[BroganMc]

I'm in the midst of my trip home so my full write-up reviews and inside tips has to wait another day, but I had to chime in here with a radical viewpoint. I walked all around the resort finding the hidden and not-so hidden pathways at all hours of the day. And you know what I discovered? There really isn't a bad section at SSR.

Congress Park felt the farthest out to me from the Springs, but then it was also the closest to DTD. (Waiting till the ferry runs at 11:15am is a bit of a pain if you want to do some early morning shopping.) The much criticized Carousel has a shortcut route to Grandstand through the golf course (the prettiest walk of all my walks btw) and it's own private lake. It feels like a nice little retreat there. The Paddocks has two bus stops it can use (Carousel and Paddocks) and shortcut walk across that bridge to the Springs. The Springs is on top of everything but has the lake views. And Grandstand has that remote yet close enough to everything. (It's the best place for parties traveling with two powerchairs and/or scooters! The busses are always able to take two there.)

So no I wouldn't have the reallocate points. I would recommend MS allow folks to book sections, but then it doesn't really matter. Anywhere you get put at SSR you'll find something to recommend it. It's just such a new resort the ins and outs aren't as well known to members like OKW is. (BTW I also discovered OKW is a lot more spread out than SSR, much to my surprise. I'd only be happy there by the main section, I believe. No way would I take that walk to DTD on a regular basis. It nearly ran my pwc battery down.)

[3DisneyKids]

I don't understand how the Grandstand was grouped with Carrousel.

Grandstand is closer to the main pool area than sections of Congress Park or The Paddock. Also from the Grandstand it's an easy walk to the Springs bus stop, so when going to the parks there's no trip through the resort first, and when coming back from the parks, the Grandstand bus stop is the first stop.

We were at the Grandstand a week ago and thought it was a great location.

And the pool area at the Grandstand is better than any of the other satellite pools.

Not all the villas in the Congress Park area actually have DD views so charging more points for that area would meet with complaints from those who got less than DD views.

The Paddock area has great views toward the water, but are further from the Springs area. Should they pay more points for their water views?

There's something good about every area. And things less desirable about every area.

Well said! :goodvibes Each section of SSR has pros and cons (like all of the resorts), and I think it would be a logistical nightmare to divide up views/sections/points at SSR. As others have said, you can The Springs and thus be close to the main pool and AP, etc., but have a view of the parking lot. So--is this more points because of the location or less points because of the view?

Using these criteria, there would be 10 categories! :scared1: There are 5 sections (CP, Springs, Paddocks, Carousel, and Grandstand) and then each one would have a preferred view and standard view. :eek: Like I said, logisitical nightmare and member chaos.

[DisneyFreaks]

I voted for the reduced point structure, but I would be happy if you could book an area and be guaranteed to get that area.
Bobbi

Me too! That would be terrific.

[TenThousandVolts]

I also voted YES reallocate but would be perfectly happy leaving the points chart as is but being able to guarantee a location or view.

[MrsNick]

I'd also be satisfied with no change to point structure, but guaranteed bookable sections.

That said, I do think the Carousel should have a lower point structure. Not just because of distance to the rest of the resort, but because it has no amenities of its own! :confused3 It does not have its own leisure pool. Yet every other section has its own leisure pool, and the Grandstand's leisure pool is actually a feature pool with a pool bar and refillable mug station.

Honestly, if any section needs a pool and refillable mug station, it is the Carousel due to its location in the resort. As others have said, sections of the Grandstand are actually closer to the HRS pool than the Springs. So, I really don't get what the thought process was when the resort was designed by giving the Grandstand those amenities instead of the Carousel. It doesn't really make sense.

[mwehttam]

I'd also be satisfied with no change to point structure, but guaranteed bookable sections.

That said, I do think the Carousel should have a lower point structure. Not just because of distance to the rest of the resort, but because it has no amenities of its own! :confused3 It does not have its own leisure pool. Yet every other section has its own leisure pool, and the Grandstand's leisure pool is actually a feature pool with a pool bar and refillable mug station.

Honestly, if any section needs a pool and refillable mug station, it is the Carousel due to its location in the resort. As others have said, sections of the Grandstand are actually closer to the HRS pool than the Springs. So, I really don't get what the thought process was when the resort was designed by giving the Grandstand those amenities instead of the Carousel. It doesn't really make sense.

I agree. Looking at a map of the resort, the two main pools are very close. For the Carousel it is long walk to the closet pool and it is a quiet one at that. Very strange that there is no quiet pool at the Carousel.

-Matt

[rantnnravin]

i seriously don't think it needs to be as complicated as purported
even the value resorts have preferred/standard locations and those were restructured when it was discovered that some areas were more desirable than what Disney considered "preferred"

wanna talk complicated, look at AKV's point structure :eek:
now, if that's not confusing...:rotfl:

am enjoying all points of view here...

[loribell]

I'm in the midst of my trip home so my full write-up reviews and inside tips has to wait another day, but I had to chime in here with a radical viewpoint. I walked all around the resort finding the hidden and not-so hidden pathways at all hours of the day. And you know what I discovered? There really isn't a bad section at SSR.

Congress Park felt the farthest out to me from the Springs, but then it was also the closest to DTD. (Waiting till the ferry runs at 11:15am is a bit of a pain if you want to do some early morning shopping.) The much criticized Carousel has a shortcut route to Grandstand through the golf course (the prettiest walk of all my walks btw) and it's own private lake. It feels like a nice little retreat there. The Paddocks has two bus stops it can use (Carousel and Paddocks) and shortcut walk across that bridge to the Springs. The Springs is on top of everything but has the lake views. And Grandstand has that remote yet close enough to everything. (It's the best place for parties traveling with two powerchairs and/or scooters! The busses are always able to take two there.)

So no I wouldn't have the reallocate points. I would recommend MS allow folks to book sections, but then it doesn't really matter. Anywhere you get put at SSR you'll find something to recommend it. It's just such a new resort the ins and outs aren't as well known to members like OKW is. (BTW I also discovered OKW is a lot more spread out than SSR, much to my surprise. I'd only be happy there by the main section, I believe. No way would I take that walk to DTD on a regular basis. It nearly ran my pwc battery down.)

I totally agree with you. There really isn't a bad section, people just aren't giving it a chance. I stayed in the Carousel after moving there from VWL in December. I could have waited for a room in another section at check in, the CM asked if I wanted to wait or take a room that was ready. I took the room that was ready. The walks to High Rock Springs, the lobby & AP seemed no longer to my family than the walk from our room in the villas over to the main pool at the WL.

So I voted no. The points are fine the way they are.

For those that are advocating room guarantees for SSR owners think about how you would like that when you choose to stay at one of the other DVC resorts.

[dwelty]

I don't think it matters that much, every building at SSR has it's pros and cons.

[TenThousandVolts]

For those that are advocating room guarantees for SSR owners think about how you would like that when you choose to stay at one of the other DVC resorts.
Kind of like how it works at BWV only without the points difference. You really need that home resort advantage to get standard or bw views there. I don't own there and would love to snag a standard view room someday- but it seems totally fair to me.
I would like room guarantees available and to be first come first served- giving early bookers an advantage- I am not saying an owner should be able to call 2 months out and be put infront of a non-owner requesting a certain view or location, but the 11 month advantage would help owners secure prime spots at SSR.
I think that would help the situation that so many here complain about regarding SSR- that SSR owners use most of their points elsewhere, creating an imbalance. I think there would be less switching if they had view/location guarantees.

[Dean]

For those that are advocating room guarantees for SSR owners think about how you would like that when you choose to stay at one of the other DVC resorts.Owners at a given resort should have the best rooms and first choice no matter when they book. But at least some way of booking an area directly gives the owners the chance to stay where they want and leaves the left overs for non owners as it should be.

[mello]

I'm surprised. I voted for the reduced point structure, but I would be happy if you could book an area and be guaranteed to get that area.

Bobbi

In fact, I'd probably be happier in the long run, since then I would't have to pay more points to book my favorite area, CP! All I'd have to do is plan ahead, which I do anyway lol.

[mello]

I'd also be satisfied with no change to point structure, but guaranteed bookable sections.

That said, I do think the Carousel should have a lower point structure. Not just because of distance to the rest of the resort, but because it has no amenities of its own! :confused3 It does not have its own leisure pool. Yet every other section has its own leisure pool, and the Grandstand's leisure pool is actually a feature pool with a pool bar and refillable mug station.

Honestly, if any section needs a pool and refillable mug station, it is the Carousel due to its location in the resort. As others have said, sections of the Grandstand are actually closer to the HRS pool than the Springs. So, I really don't get what the thought process was when the resort was designed by giving the Grandstand those amenities instead of the Carousel. It doesn't really make sense.

I totally agree. Grandstand would be a "prime" area even without the nice pool because of the golf course and the location. I can see that there are folks who want that "away from it all" feeling, but I'd hazard a guess that they're in the minority (mainly I've deduced that from all the complaints on these boards about how spread out SSR is). And I agree... the very fact that Carousel is away from everything is all the more reason to give it some amenities of its own.

I'll say again that I like to walk, and we walked all over SSR, and back and forth to DTD many times, so walking isn't so much the issue for me (though it surely is for lots of folks who've posted negatively about SSR), it's just the fact that Carousel is not only out there by itself, it also is the only area that doesn't have anything to offer, such as a pool, hot tub, drink refills, DTD, golf, or two possible bus stops, for instance. All the other areas have at least one of these things.

A Question for the poster who mentioned the shortcut to Grandstand through the golfcourse. I'm glad to hear about that. When dh and I studied the map we thought that would be a lovely walk. Did they extend the pathway all the way out to the road there by the guard shack?

Anyway, an apology to other SSR owners. I'm sorry to sound so negative, I really do LOVE SSR! It's just that I'm such a compulsive planner that I can't help looking at the resort map and doing a bit of planning myself. If it had been up to me, I would have given Carousel a pool of it's own with a drink refill station, and I would make a beautiful park with benches overlooking the lake and DTD back by the boat launch in the area that's now a parking lot by the tennis courts. I would also move the preview center out once SSR is completed, and the preview babysitting area would become a kids' club (how awesome would it be to have one so close to DTD!), and the ice cream parlor would remain open as a resort ice cream parlor. But that belongs on another thread lol.

[loribell]

Owners at a given resort should have the best rooms and first choice no matter when they book. But at least some way of booking an area directly gives the owners the chance to stay where they want and leaves the left overs for non owners as it should be.

I don't really have a problem with owners at a given resort having the best choice of rooms at their given resort but I don't agree that they should no matter when they book; only if they book within their 4 month priority period. I think it would be great to be able to book a specific area but it should only be a guarantee based on when it is booked, not just because they are owners at that particular resort.

[HUFF590]

I love SSR, but I would support a change to the point structure.

Owners should get priority booking windows for DTD views and maybe the Preferred Golf Views of the Grandstand Buildings.

I dont think that those that complain about having to stay at SSR as their last resort should get prime locations and views, when you cant get standard views or Boardwalk views without being an owner.

I think the Carousel should be reserved for non owners booking at less than 7 months that cant get into their home resort:rotfl:

I agree

[murcor]

I would be happy at Congress, Springs, Grandstand or Paddocks.

I cringed at the thoughts that I may have to stay in the Carousel area some day :scared1:

[PECOS BILL]

I think the layout of the resort is great except for just the Carousel.
As said earlier, if a pool was built out there with a drink station I think that area would become a wonderful area. It would be it's own little resort area that all of a sudden I think folks would request.
We've stayed in the Paddock, Springs and the Grandstand. All are great and have there own little idiosyncresies.

[BroganMc]

I do like the Carousel section. It seemed more remote (from the street) and relaxing than I envisioned before. A playground, pool or drink refill station would complete the section.

In fact, drink refill stations at all the pools would be worthwhile. All they need is a cubby hole for a soda fountain. Check it when you refill the towels.

Congress Park actually felt the farthest to me when contemplating refilling my mug. Everything else was on the main route to AP.

[rantnnravin]

so if they're not planning on putting any amenities in the Carousel, why NOT offer a "value view" section for fewer points per night?

[Chuck S]

They can NOT adjust points downward without raising points elsewhere. If they did, they would be guilty of "overselling" the resort under Florida law.

[rantnnravin]

:firefight
that's a given.

[Dean]

They can NOT adjust points downward without raising points elsewhere. If they did, they would be guilty of "overselling" the resort under Florida law.They probably still could be selling less points just like at BWV. But realistically I can't see them increasing points so the only reasonable solution would likely be a booking category rather than a reallocation.

[abeyst]

I think a set up like BWV is a great idea. I'd like to have a guaranteed DTD view for the trips when I want that view. I also think it would draw a lot more demand to have a separate DTD (as well as STd and Pfd) categories.

And the points could be more for Pfd and DTD view rooms and less for std view rooms. Sure, some people would complain, but it wouldn't stop them from booking the pfd rooms when they want the view/room location!! It falls right in line with the laws of supply & demand....

[CarolMN]

....(snip).....And the points could be more for Pfd and DTD view rooms and less for std view rooms. Sure, some people would complain, but it wouldn't stop them from booking the pfd rooms when they want the view/room location!! It falls right in line with the laws of supply & demand....But as already posted, not in line with the laws of the State of Florida, LOL! :teeth: :teeth: Unless Disney is willing to sell less points for SSR than they have already planned, of course. I don't think that's very likey. Still, it's fun to dream!

[sanbornangel]

I just returned from my 1st DVC trip to SSR. We arrived early and were given a room right away. I had requested several different rooms after alot of research. After a very long walk (I took a wrong turn), I arrived at the room. I went out to the balcony and a giant tree was my view. I could see nothing. I was very disappointed. I dragged DH back to the desk to request a move (another long walk). They only had one other choice. I was very surprised and alittle disappointed that I had NO real choice. We had to wait 5 hours for my new room. It ended up being an awesome trip, however it would be nice for DVC owners to have some type of preference. (by the way,after the wrong turn and the five hour wait, my DH told me that I could make no more decisions on this trip..he was perfectly happy where we started). My lesson: be happy with what I get..after all it is ALL MAGICAL at the Mouse House!

[dvc at last !]

I like the idea, too !
DVC owners should have a preferrence. :cool1:

[Starr W.]

But as already posted, not in line with the laws of the State of Florida, LOL! :teeth: :teeth: Unless Disney is willing to sell less points for SSR than they have already planned, of course. I don't think that's very likey. Still, it's fun to dream!

Couldn't they change the point chart, by dropping "std view" points by x amount, then raising "pfd or DTD view" by x amount. So you wouldn't be changing the number of points, just rebalancing them.

When did they change BWV to Std/pfd. wasn't that after they started selling points?


I am not in favor of changing the point totals in anyway myself, would like if you could book a given area(CP,Grandstand, etc).

[phyllisnnj]

BUMP... since this is being discussed again

[CarolMN]

...(snip)......When did they change BWV to Std/pfd. wasn't that after they started selling points? .....Yes, the change was made after they started selling points. However, Disney / Develper decided to sell less points than they originally planned, so there was no need to increase the points for a PV room. There was still quite a bit of unsold inventory when the change was made - believe sales weren't going as fast as planned & members were complaining about the points for "inferior" views. Remember all they had to compare to was OKW. The BWV point structure was higher than OKW.

[disneykid4ever]

I absolutely do NOT want reallocation of points. I don't want to have to use more points just to get a DTD view or be near the Carriage House. I book at the 11 month window 99% of the time and would much prefer room assignment priority based on when I made my reservation instead.

[TenThousandVolts]

I absolutely do NOT want reallocation of points. I don't want to have to use more points just to get a DTD view or be near the Carriage House. I book at the 11 month window 99% of the time and would much prefer room assignment priority based on when I made my reservation instead.
ITA- send your thoughts along to DVC- check out this thread: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1483974

[mwehttam]

I absolutely do NOT want reallocation of points. I don't want to have to use more points just to get a DTD view or be near the Carriage House. I book at the 11 month window 99% of the time and would much prefer room assignment priority based on when I made my reservation instead.

Agree!! :thumbsup2 Having certain views cost more at SSR is silly. Give the members that book during their window priority. This should be done at all the resorts.

-Matt

[Dean]

I absolutely do NOT want reallocation of points. I don't want to have to use more points just to get a DTD view or be near the Carriage House. I book at the 11 month window 99% of the time and would much prefer room assignment priority based on when I made my reservation instead.Right now your getting neither. Your chances of getting what you want is no better than one who booked last month. But this is easily possible and likely simpler to have separate categories at the same points costs.