Hoop Dee Doo =X

[Shannone1]

Some folks over on the DDP dining forum are seriously slamming the Hoop-Dee-Doo. Cheesy show, old costumes, so so food. Is it that bad ?? I've heard such great things about it on this board so I am confused.

- Is it that the other people are just used to more high end places and resorts and maybe not into camping ??

- Do the Fort Wilderness regulars just love it because of the experience and maybe because of the nostalgia ??

If this show wasn't at The Fort, would you still go to it ??

[FancyBrat]

We did the Hoop Dee Doo in 9/05. It was enjoyable and glad we did it, but I honestly have no interest in repeating it just cause I've done it and it's 2TS credits. Too many other things to experience. I wouldn't go by what other's say, If your interested in seeing it then Go and Enjoy. You won't be sorry and then you'll know if you want to repeat. It is a cute show!

[Elliott]

Only place I have found at WDW where it's
ALL YOU CAN DRINK!!!
:drinking1 :drinking1 :drinking1

Sangria aside, my kids and I really like the food and we spend the next 3 days singing "Hoop-de-doo...hoop-de-doo..."

[stacktester]

My daughter and I did the HDDR last June and we liked it a lot. I would go back if I took someone that hasn't been. The food is Trails End slung next door lol. You get ribs, chicken and a couple veggies. It is aycd wine and beer. The show was funny and well done.

[FloridaTeacher]

Well, the Hoop-Dee-Doo is kinda cheesy and it is nostalgic - but that's what it's supposed to be. ;) It's also great fun. We did the Hoop-Dee-Doo a couple of years ago and we're going to do it again in Oct. Is it a must do everytime we go to WDW (twice a year), no but we're ready to do it again after 2 years.:thumbsup2

Happy Camping!

[SunshineCamper]

Everytime we pass the settlement-we all break out in song-"Hooop Dee-Doo Hoooop Dee Doo" It never fails. And the giggly girl-teeehheeee
Love it!!
it's a must see at least once. We saw it once and the kids wanted my parents to see it too so we've seen it twice. It's so worth it. We were staying at the Ft. both times. I'd see it again of site as well.
It's a fun show!

[OneLittleSpark]

I thought I'd just jump into this thread as I'd like some information on the HDDR, and you guys seem so much more positive about it. My question is, how is the vegetarian selection? Yup, I'm one of those weird veggie types! I'm not fussy about food, so long as it didn't have to be killed for me to eat it (no meat or fish, but do eat eggs, cheese, etc). What I really want to know is, can I get enough food to warrant the cost? By the sounds of it, my mother and I would love the show, but I'm going to have to pay for the top price seating as that's the only bit that's wheelchair accessible (I don't get it, I have to pay more to bring my own seat :confused3), and I don't want to come out of it hungry.

Thanks guys and keep on singing :thumbsup2 !

[Colson39]

If you've never experienced the Hoop Dee Doo, you have to go at least once. We have been at least 15 times since I was a kid, and it never gets old. If you like a really funny (and yes cheesy, but that's part of the charm of it) old style Western vaudeville show, and you don't care that your food isn't at a 5 star level (hello, this isn't the Grand Floridian ;) ), and you like being able to actually EAT and not nibble on a 2 inch square of fine French cheese, than you'll love it too :)

Those same people probably also think that sleeping in "cabins" or "trailers" is so 1970's and who in their right mind would "camp" at Disney World. I have yet to see a bad show at Disney, they are all very nicely done.

[donna6819]

I was wondering to if it is worth the 2 dc or paying out of pocket. I am not a big eater, my DH has crohns disease so he doesn't eat a big meal either and our DD is a very fussy/pickey eater. So would it be a waste for us to use our dc or even paying for it. Personally i like the character meals and so does my dd(she is 6). what is everyones opinion??

Thanks :goodvibes

[bettydau]

Go, Go, Go to Hoop-de-doo! Six of us went in Jan. & we are still singing. 15 of us will go next January, and that will be the first event I book on July 20!:banana:

[tellnotails]

I was wondering to if it is worth the 2 dc or paying out of pocket. I am not a big eater, my DH has crohns disease so he doesn't eat a big meal either and our DD is a very fussy/pickey eater. So would it be a waste for us to use our dc or even paying for it. Personally i like the character meals and so does my dd(she is 6). what is everyones opinion??

Thanks :goodvibes



IMHO hoopdeeyourbroke has finally priced its way into a mess......


Longest running dinner show in all wdw.......


From a bluecollar stand point excellent show............... and food my family can relate to:) .........


It was originally priced to meet all income levels...


That cannot be said anymore....



Higher paying customers have higher expectations jmho.......

[Colson39]

Everything in Disney is priced much higher than it was 5-10-15-20-30 years ago. Yes, Disney was priced more economically back in the day. Like 15-20 years ago. It hasn't been that way for a long time, and it never will be again. We all know Disney is not the cheapest place to visit, and that is not going to change.

Plus, the Hoop Dee Doo has always been one of the more expensive shows at Disney, that is nothing new.

Is it worth the money? Yes, especially if you've never been.

[clkelley]

We went in 2004. Me, hubby, son 17, son 16. We had a great time, and any time my boys can get all you can eat ribs is a good thing. They actually shocked the server at the amount of ribs they put away!! I think they were just asking for more ribs toward the end, just to see how much all you can eat really meant. (That is until the server embarrased them by announcing to the whole place how many buckets of ribs had been brought to our table!!)

The show was lots of fun, and definitely corny!!

We are trying the Luau in September on the Dining Plan. We havn't been to that since 1997, so are curious about that show.

[eugeniuss]

Did HDD last July, and will go back again, even if it costs two credits... the food is great, but the atmosphere is outstanding... like others said, dont expect fine dining, but I also had the Yachtsman Steakhouse on the same trip, and will not be going back there next time even though it is supposedly better food... the food fits in with the entire scope of the show, and it all works extremely well together...

[tellnotails]

Lets see decent seat at hddr...$60+ adult $30+ kid


Family of 4 $200 deal....:confused3



Again hddr is a great family show.....at a very unfamily price....

[Colson39]

Won't argue that it's not pricey, but hey, this IS Disney we're talking about after all :(

[tellnotails]

when I was there in feb. the 9:oopm show was cancelled..


I think the higher income crowd has spoken......:sad2:

[HappyDznyCamper]

when I was there in feb. the 9:oopm show was cancelled..


I think the higher income crowd has spoken......:sad2:
Can't say as I have heard of a show being cancelled because there were not enough seats sold but I suppose that is possible.
Not quit sure what you mean by your last line though.
As for the price of the HDDR, I guess it is high for dinner or a show, but it is a dinner show and Disney so it seems about right for what and where it is.

[Colson39]

Uhmm, they're not cancelling the Hoop Dee Doo shows because of the "high income crowd". February is not exactly a booming month at Disney.

The Hoop Dee Doo already goes dark on certain dates because there isn't enough attendance at Disney/Fort Wilderness to warrant the show.

Enough with this higher income/lower income, I'm blue collar, you're white collar nonsense (it seems like every thread now :/). Because some 9 PM show was cancelled (most people don't want to go at 9 anyways), all of a sudden it means high income people are shutting down the Hoop Dee Doo? ugh, I think I just saw Elvis too...lol.

As for the price of the HDDR, I guess it is high for dinner or a show, but it is a dinner show and Disney so it seems about right for what and where it is.


Which is exactly the point. This isn't 1972 people!

[tellnotails]

Can't say as I have heard of a show being cancelled because there were not enough seats sold but I suppose that is possible.
Not quit sure what you mean by your last line though.
As for the price of the HDDR, I guess it is high for dinner or a show, but it is a dinner show and Disney so it seems about right for what and where it is.



The show is losing interest to those who can afford it.....:sad2:


Does anyone know why they removed the sign that posted the priceout front:confused:

I know they have changed thier pricing to zones (where you sit)..

[Colson39]

Funny, it is still a pain to get reservations to the Hoop Dee Doo :/ I actually wish people would lose interest, more seats available!

Folks, the Hoop Dee Doo is great, it's fun, and yes, it costs money. Just like everything else in Disney. If you can afford it, go and have a great time. If you can't, than there are plenty of other entertainment venues you can choose from. It's really that simple :)

[tellnotails]

You can wish...



I wish more families could afford this great show ........


It takes our family a long time to make the $ to make the trailer payment, truck payment, house payment,taxes etc...........


Not to mention the $200 for the 4 of us.....


I like to look at things at wdw through a working familys' eyes.....:hug:

[Colson39]

Unfortunately, such is life :( Thankfully my old and new family have been blessed enough to enjoy Disney for many years. We are definitely thankful!

[Tent Camping Mom]

I thought I'd just jump into this thread as I'd like some information on the HDDR, and you guys seem so much more positive about it. My question is, how is the vegetarian selection? Yup, I'm one of those weird veggie types! I'm not fussy about food, so long as it didn't have to be killed for me to eat it (no meat or fish, but do eat eggs, cheese, etc). What I really want to know is, can I get enough food to warrant the cost? By the sounds of it, my mother and I would love the show, but I'm going to have to pay for the top price seating as that's the only bit that's wheelchair accessible (I don't get it, I have to pay more to bring my own seat :confused3), and I don't want to come out of it hungry.

Thanks guys and keep on singing :thumbsup2 !

We just got back Sunday night. During Lent I don't eat meat but I do eat fish. You will need to tell them 48 hours in advance that you will need a vegetarian meal. With all that is served, I would have been fine without the salmon. They bring out a huge salad and cornbread before the main meal. My entree consisted of salmon (which you may get something different for vegetarian), char-grilled mixed veggies, corn on the cob and a large baked potato. I couldn't finish it. Stay away from the beans, they are seasoned with pork. I was overstuffed but it could have been that pitcher of beer :drinking1

[tellnotails]

Some folks over on the DDP dining forum are seriously slamming the Hoop-Dee-Doo. Cheesy show, old costumes, so so food. Is it that bad ?? I've heard such great things about it on this board so I am confused.

- Is it that the other people are just used to more high end places and resorts and maybe not into camping ??

Yes,Yes,yes:sad2:


- Do the Fort Wilderness regulars just love it because of the experience and maybe because of the nostalgia ??

I love the show..... but do to its cost it is difficult for my family to fit in the vacation budjet



If this show wasn't at The Fort, would you still go to it ??:sad2: NO


popcorn::

[Shannone1]

We just got back Sunday night. During Lent I don't eat meat but I do eat fish. You will need to tell them 48 hours in advance that you will need a vegetarian meal. With all that is served, I would have been fine without the salmon. They bring out a huge salad and cornbread before the main meal. My entree consisted of salmon (which you may get something different for vegetarian), char-grilled mixed veggies, corn on the cob and a large baked potato. I couldn't finish it. Stay away from the beans, they are seasoned with pork. I was overstuffed but it could have been that pitcher of beer :drinking1

Sounds good to me. We don't need fancy food...just lots of it for hubby and kids, lol !! :lmao:

Thanks for all of the responses. I was surprised at the descriptions I was reading on the dining board and was hoping to get some other opinions here. We are looking forward to going, I know my kids will enjoy it. We aren't expecting "Broadway"..it's a campfire show !! We are going to be spending 4 of our six days just hanging out at the fort and figured the Hoop-Dee-Doo and Mickey's BBQ would be good highlights for a couple of those days.

As for price...I KNOW going into this vacation that it is a Disney property and things are going to be overpriced and I plan accordingly. I am not going to count my pennies and worry about what everything costs. We have been waiting 3 years for this trip and I plan on enjoying every minute of it.....overpriced meals, tacky souveniers, corny shows and all, lol !! :)

[Colson39]

Sounds good to me. We don't need fancy food...just lots of it for hubby and kids, lol !! :lmao:

Thanks for all of the responses. I was surprised at the descriptions I was reading on the dining board and was hoping to get some other opinions here. We are looking forward to going, I know my kids will enjoy it. We aren't expecting "Broadway"..it's a campfire show !! We are going to be spending 4 of our six days just hanging out at the fort and figured the Hoop-Dee-Doo and Mickey's BBQ would be good highlights for a couple of those days.

As for price...I KNOW going into this vacation that it is a Disney property and things are going to be overpriced and I plan accordingly. I am not going to count my pennies and worry about what everything costs. We have been waiting 3 years for this trip and I plan on enjoying every minute of it.....overpriced meals, tacky souveniers, corny shows and all, lol !! :)


Exactly! You're on vacation, stop worrying about money, life, your troubles back home. Enjoy yourself, let other people worry!!


Your kids are going to LOVE this show, the only bad thing is, you're going to be hearing this for the next few days.....

HOOP DEE DOOOOO HOOP DEE DOOOOOOO

Trust me, you'll know what we're talking about after you've seen the show.

Be sure to tell us all about how much fun it was when you get back! :banana:

[OK GRUMPY]

I have been about 5 times!! That says yes I did enjoy the food the show and the beverage!! I enjoy laughing and having a good time so I think the Hoop Dee Doo is well worth it.Everyone I have went with ( which includes different age groups from 11 to 70)has enjoyed the show. I would recommend going to the earlier show.

[OneLittleSpark]

We just got back Sunday night. During Lent I don't eat meat but I do eat fish. You will need to tell them 48 hours in advance that you will need a vegetarian meal. With all that is served, I would have been fine without the salmon. They bring out a huge salad and cornbread before the main meal. My entree consisted of salmon (which you may get something different for vegetarian), char-grilled mixed veggies, corn on the cob and a large baked potato. I couldn't finish it. Stay away from the beans, they are seasoned with pork. I was overstuffed but it could have been that pitcher of beer :drinking1

Wonderful! Thank you so much! I figured if I gave them enough notice, Disney could work their magic for me, but obviously I wanted to be sure before I booked. I know about baked beans, my aunt and uncle live near Boston and have to ship in Heinz just to get them meat free, but thanks for the warning! This really sounds like something my mother and I would love. We're both Guide (Girl Scout) leaders and love singing at campfires (and walking around the streets, to the great embarrassment of my sister). Sure it'll cost a bit, but I've been saving up for this holiday (and am going to be working my backside off this summer) and dash it all, we're going to have a good time!

Thank you so much everyone :thumbsup2 , I think you may just have convinced me to go for it (provided the holiday goes ahead, that is, it's still touch and go at the moment *crosses fingers*)! I'm hoping to be there for my birthday, so I may just have found our evening's entertainment :goodvibes:!

[HappyDznyCamper]

Exactly! You're on vacation, stop worrying about money, life, your troubles back home. Enjoy yourself, let other people worry!!


Your kids are going to LOVE this show, the only bad thing is, you're going to be hearing this for the next few days.....

HOOP DEE DOOOOO HOOP DEE DOOOOOOO

Trust me, you'll know what we're talking about after you've seen the show.

Be sure to tell us all about how much fun it was when you get back! :banana:

Very well put! At my house(and in the TT too) we usualy enjoy several days of "bear" jokes after we go to the HDDR.

Enjoy your trip!

[grumpy's Mrs.]

We've been to HDDR before and will be there next tuesday night 7ish show. I can't wait and as my DH says It is Disney and the ONLY all you can drink beer:drinking1 . The food is good homestyle food and you will end up singing hoop dee doo the rest of your trip. If you can afford it , it is worth it to us.

Have a great time.

[bama_ed]

HDDR isn't F-I-N-E dining, it's F-U-N dining.:cheer2:

Seriously, if you want GREAT FOOD or a classy meal, go to the V&A at GF.

If you want to have family fun at a dinner and be entertained, do HDDR.

It's cheesy and it is nostalgic but THAT's WHY I like it. Where else can my young kids see that kind of fun? Golden Horshoe Review in MK/Frontierland used to offer something close (no meal) but now it is a shell of its former self. BTW, Disney effectively raised prices by going to the tiered structure BECAUSE THEY CAN GET IT. You or I would do the same thing.

And from a cost effectiveness standpoint, if you consider that tax and tip are included along with all the food you can eat, dessert, and all the beer/wine you can drink (!), and throw in the fact you get a show, I think it is a fair deal. I also think it is worth 2 TS on the DDP (even though I don't do DDP). Plus I'm on the property and don't have to go off to dinner theater shows on 192 or someplace else. We FW folks get to stay "home". :thumbsup2

I'd pay for HDDR any day over a character meal or dinner in the castle (whatever the name of that restaurant is these days). I don't do this kind of dinner every night - in Disney terms most suppers (in my popup) are CS, I do maybe one TS and splurge on a HDDR. I don't know stats but the dinner/show at the Contemporary has changed/folded many times, the Luao (sp?) at the Poly is not what it was, but HDDR is still going strong.

Bring on the strawberry shortcake!:cutie:

Bama ED

PS-only 156 days left till college football kicks off....

[wdwbound]

Can you all stand another opinion? 1993 was our family's first trip to Florida and we definitely splurged on HDDR. Rob was our waiter (Bor) and although one of my sons was not feeling well at the beginning, he definitely perked up during the meal and performance. And we ALL came out singing, all the way to the camper. DH was certain that he had NEVER had such a meal before!
We have since been 3 more times, the last time in May 2006 with DBIL and DSIL...this time the performance landed in his lap and it was priceless!!
Yes, it has increased in price but the food is still great and the entertainment is the best! Oh...and Rob is STILL serving!

Nancy

[dgaston]

DD23 absolutely picked HDD as one of her dinner choices for her college graduation trip. We've been a few times.

[Elliott]

When did WDW go to the teired cost for seating? I thought late last year if was 1st reserved-1st served. What are the costs now and where does that $ put you? On the floor, front or back, or on the "shelf"?

[DizznyChick]

we always go to HDD-its our favorite and we have great memories from the show over the years
it is cheesy-and we love cheese !!

[Swimnoid]

This is a definite must do at some point in your disney "career". We have been 3 times over the past 17 years but not for a long time. Now you all have gotten me nostalgic for it. Maybe this trip........

[Colson39]

When did WDW go to the teired cost for seating? I thought late last year if was 1st reserved-1st served. What are the costs now and where does that $ put you? On the floor, front or back, or on the "shelf"?

They went to teired seating as of January 1st.

From another site on the prices:

2007 Pricing:

Category 1 will allow you and your party to be seated on the first floor level with your table nearest the stage and in the middle of all the action and excitement.
$58.99 - Adults, $29.99 - Children (3-9)

Category 2 offers either a great table on the first floor behind the Category 1 seating below the balcony or in the center of the balcony on the 2nd floor. Either way, you're still facing the stage so you can get a wonderful view of the entire performance.
$54.99 - Adults, $26.99 - Children (3-9)

Category 3 offers tables that are located on the right hand side or left hand side of the balcony on the 2nd floor. You won't miss a moment of the fun and excitement as you enjoy the panoramic view of the entire stage production.
$50.99 - Adults, $25.99 - Children (3-9)


So as you can see, there are 3 tiers. To be honest, Tier 1 is only 8 bucks more than Tier 3, so it's not like there is a HUGE difference in price. It's still based on availability, so if all of Tier 1 is gone, you'll have to go for Tier 2 or Tier 3.

Also, BIG NOTE for those of you wanting to use the Dining Plan with this. You can only get Tier 2 or Tier 3 seating when you use the Dining Plan. You CANNOT get Tier 1 seating, unless you pay for the tickets yourself.

Also, in regards to the Hoop Dee Doo being trimmed back a bit during slow months:

The Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue is planning to scale back its schedule during the “Low Fall” season of 2007. From August 30 - October 29, 2007, the dinner show is scheduled to perform Thursday through Monday only.

This totally makes sense, since lots of shows can't fill to capacity at this time because of the lower attendance rates at Disney. So basically you couldn't see a show on Tuesday or Wednesday during those months, but those are some of the most dead times at Disney, so it's understandable.

Also, some people don't like to sit close to the stage, so actually being able to choose an area farther from the stage with the tiered seating is an added benefit.

I personally love the change, if you're willing to pay more money, you're willing to have a better seat (or vice versa). And since it's only an 8 buck difference from top to lower tier, it's not like anyone is getting screwed over. Plus, almost all seats in my opinion are great at the Hoop Dee Doo, you'll have fun at any table!

[ajjhmf]

I saw the HDDR years ago on a trip with a friend. We'd been traveling from Ohio all day with her parents and 2 little brothers. It was a very long day and the HDDR was exactly what we needed. Lively, fun and all you can eat and drink. :cool1:

In fact, when we go next year, we're making our ADR for Saturday night. A perfect kickoff to a great vacation! :D

[Smooshdog]

I love the Hoop Dee Doo! I introduced my DGF, her mom and little sis to it and they loved it! My family always camped at FW because there is 7 of us and each time we did the HDDR and loved it! My brother was called up on the stage once. HDDR is a must on every trip as far as I'm concerned!

[OneLittleSpark]

So basically you couldn't see a show on Tuesday or Wednesday during those months,

Why did my Birthday have to fall on a Tuesday this year :headache: .

Oh, and for a picture of the tiered seating arrangements, see the DIS menu:

http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/dining/diningmain.cfm (use the choose by Restaurant drop down to find HDDR)

[graciejane]

For us the HDD is a must. Yes it is pricey but it's our one big dinner out when we are at WDW. And yes we would do it even if we weren't camped there. It has been a family tradition since I was young and went with my folk's.

[Ciciwoowoo]

I love the Hoo Dee Doo! :love:

Part of my love is the nostalgia. We always stayed at Fort Wilderness when we were younger. We are now DVC members, but we enjoy having a reason to go to Fort Wilderness.

I would still go if the Hoop Dee Doo was somewhere else. I might not go every year, though.

Now if only they would bring back the open-air trams instead of taking a bus through the campground! :hippie:

[Colson39]

I love the Hoo Dee Doo! :love:

Part of my love is the nostalgia. We always stayed at Fort Wilderness when we were younger. We are now DVC members, but we enjoy having a reason to go to Fort Wilderness.

I would still go if the Hoop Dee Doo was somewhere else. I might not go every year, though.

Now if only they would bring back the open-air trams instead of taking a bus through the campground! :hippie:

Well, you can always visit the Ticket and Transportation center for some open-air tram rides! lol, just kidding! I too miss the trams at Fort Wilderness, they are one of the main facets of "old" Fort Wilderness that I truly do miss!

HOOOP DEEE DOOOOOOOO HOOOOP DEEEEEE DOOOOOOOOOO

[proudmomof4]

Different strokes for different folks.

I love the HDDR and I don't care for California Grill but I don't discourage anyone from trying it, everyone needs to form their own opinion, so my advice is try it a least once and then make your decision as to whether it was worth it.

I will say this (from a working family by the way), I didn't think my 4 sons (aged 9-20 at the time) would like the show, I thought they would think it was cheesy and nerdy. Well, we went to celebrate my 2nd son's graduation from high school and he brought a friend with him (the perfect way to embarass my son right?), so there were 7 of us, and these boys (all of them) loved this show, they were not just laughing out loud, but playing along, yelling and getting really into everything, they also decided to have a rib eating contest. Now, when I ask everyone where is the ONE place they want to eat the answer is HDDR.

Oh, and HDDR is not just for people who camp, lots of other resort guests make the trip over to FW to see this show.

Like I said before, it is not for everyone but then neither is California Grill or Victoria & Alberts.

[GreatLakes5]

I thought I'd just jump into this thread as I'd like some information on the HDDR, and you guys seem so much more positive about it. My question is, how is the vegetarian selection? Yup, I'm one of those weird veggie types! I'm not fussy about food, so long as it didn't have to be killed for me to eat it (no meat or fish, but do eat eggs, cheese, etc).


We went to the show in late January of this year and sat next to a table with a vegetarian. He was served the salad (naturally), corn bread (must be no hidden fats in there....) but for his entree they came out with a pretty basic penne with marinara. Looked good - not spectacular. I did not, however, chat him up so I don't know if this is what he selected/anticipated or if it's the one and only entree when opting to go vegetarian.

[auntie]

I have to say..we have been to Hoop-Dee-Doo 3 times. We loved it. I have a May trip planned..and frankly..the price for 5 adults..I'm gonna pass this time around. As much as it's good old fashioned fun...I agree with some of the other posters that say it just may have priced itself out. I was really shocked by the new tier system..and the prices related to it. Almost $60.00 a person..family of 5 almost $300.00...think we'll pass this time. I guess it's different if it's just for two..but add in the kids..who aren't paying the kid prices anymore..and it priced us out.

[edcrbnsoul]

Corny Jokes Free
So So Food $58
Cheesy Costumes $200 from Disney Wardrobe
Laughing and enjoying yourself at all of the above while in WDW priceless

[tellnotails]

I have to say..we have been to Hoop-Dee-Doo 3 times. We loved it. I have a May trip planned..and frankly..the price for 5 adults..I'm gonna pass this time around. As much as it's good old fashioned fun...I agree with some of the other posters that say it just may have priced itself out. I was really shocked by the new tier system..and the prices related to it. Almost $60.00 a person..family of 5 almost $300.00...think we'll pass this time. I guess it's different if it's just for two..but add in the kids..who aren't paying the kid prices anymore..and it priced us out.



I wonder if they could just change the age limit on this venue......

A child is surely not going to eat alot of heavy ribs and chicken.....

It's ashame more families can't see this show due to its cost:sad1:

[GreatLakes5]

I know they have changed thier pricing to zones (where you sit)..

Last time we were there (Jan. 07) we attempted a reservation and were told that the only seats available were prime seats and we could not use our credits but had to pay outright for them. We broke down and did so. We were seated up front - right behind a big ol' pillar. It was rustic looking and all, but still a pillar.....

Would we go again? If we could get the reservations and be very specific about seating - it's great for our young ones. When my husband and I do our retiree visits to WDW we'd probably skip it. (Already planning for the future don't ya know....)

Also - when we were there one of the cast members mentioned that the show would be down sporadically as they re-finish the hardwood floor inside - that could be why the show wasn't open all the time in February?

[Colson39]

Tons of families enjoy the Hoop Dee Doo every night. As has been mentioned, if you can't afford it, there are plenty of other alternatives. I can't afford to go the Hoop Dee Doo every trip, but I don't sit here and complain that it's too overpriced. I simply look forward to the next time I have enough money to make another trip. Disney isn't going to lower their prices, so I can either spend the rest of my time complaining about it, which will solve nothing, or simply look forward to the next time I'm able to afford it and the great time I'll have. I sure as heck wouldn't want to go and sit there thinking about nothing other than how much money I just spent.

I'm sorry I can't afford to go on cruises every other month like some families, or that I'm forced to take a little sailing trip because I can't afford a large cruise ship. Not everyone can afford everything. If Disney were to price EVERYTHING so that EVERY family could afford it, soon it wouldn't even matter, because there would be no more Disney.

Why do people not understand that in the end, Disney is a business? Walt Disney was a businessman. Walt Disney World was created to make money. It was created with great vision, wonderful planning, and a unbelievably remarkable set of guidelines, but still, it's a business.

I'm sorry that some people find Fort Wilderness and some of it's trappings to be beyond their reach monetarily. We all wish that everyone could afford everything. I wish I could go to the Grand Floridian 7 times a year, but I can't. I wish the I could eat at Victoria and Alberts 3 times a year, but I can't. At this point, we're not displaying criticism, we're displaying whining, such as when we were kids and we were upset that our next door neighbor had a bigger Tonka Truck than ours.

[auntie]

Why, may I ask...is someone sitting here complaining about the price..if they simply mention that unfortunately for them...or God Forbid..in their opinion...Hoop Dee Doo is more money than they care to spend on a dinner show. Perhaps it isn't that they "can't" afford it..but rather that they choose to spend their money elsewhere. I have no idea what that has to do with you chosing or not chosing to take a crusie every other month or not. You have your priorities..other people have theirs. Yet if someone so much as mentions that they don't agree with your priority..they are whiners and complainers...and not "positive". I gotta tell ya it's gettin' kind of old. I've been here at Dis for a while..and I appreciate EVERYONE's perspective..and they are entitled to it without being called complaining negative people. The OP had an inquiry..a question..and they received a few different perspectives..that's what the boards are about. I assume they are adult enough to pull out of the information posted what they need and make a decision. Others are simply sharing their experience. I don't feel it's necessary to be critical of someones choice to not dine at the Hoop Dee Doo.

[Colson39]

Why, may I ask...is someone sitting here complaining about the price..if they simply mention that unfortunately for them...or God Forbid..in their opinion...Hoop Dee Doo is more money than they care to spend on a dinner show. Perhaps it isn't that they "can't" afford it..but rather that they choose to spend their money elsewhere. I have no idea what that has to do with you chosing or not chosing to take a crusie every other month or not. You have your priorities..other people have theirs. Yet if someone so much as mentions that they don't agree with your priority..they are whiners and complainers...and not "positive". I gotta tell ya it's gettin' kind of old. I've been here at Dis for a while..and I appreciate EVERYONE's perspective..and they are entitled to it without being called complaining negative people. The OP had an inquiry..a question..and they received a few different perspectives..that's what the boards are about. I assume they are adult enough to pull out of the information posted what they need and make a decision. Others are simply sharing their experience. I don't feel it's necessary to be critical of someones choice to not dine at the Hoop Dee Doo.

Once again, I had a much larger response written out, but you're starting to turn some of my posts into a personal chat talk between you and I. If you have issues with something that I write, or how I write, or what I write, please send me a personal message over the forums and we can discuss that there. There is no reason to attempt to turn anything into a "flame" war.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, positive or negative. You're criticizing me for criticizing other people, think about it ;)

[tellnotails]

Monetarily it does effect a majority of guests........

So are you suggesting they raise the tier system to $80/$40 or $100/$50?

Heck lets make it $120/$60 that way the logistics would show that even if half of the people show up they are still ahead monetarily...


I believe wdw is on a slippery slope with hddr.....Again the best and longest running dinner show in all WDW.....

Family still counts at wdw.....I just hope they have not forgot about us...:sad1:

[Colson39]

Monetarily it does effect a majority of guests........

So are you suggesting they raise the tier system to $80/$40 or $100/$50?

Heck lets make it $120/$60 that way the logistics would show that even if half of the people show up they are still ahead monetarily...


I believe wdw is on a slippery slope with hddr.....Again the best and longest running dinner show in all WDW.....

Family still counts at wdw.....I just hope they have not forgot about us...:sad1:

Last I checked, EVERYTHING at Disney effects guests monetarily. It's not like it's JUST the Hoop Dee Doo!

I'm like you, I wish the price WOULD go down. No one would ever want to actually see the prices raised, other than Disney. It's just that you and I deal with the high prices differently is all.

And of course family still counts, and of course Disney still has that as a priority over most other places.

Also, how is the Hoop Dee Doo on a slippery slope? It is still sold out almost throughout the year, if anything, it's as popular as ever. For every family that can't afford to go, there is another family that is willing to step in. I'm not saying that's wrong or right, that's just business.

[Gatordad]

$58 for adults is steep..... until they see a dropoff in attendance, they will continue to charge the fees.....

[tellnotails]

$58 for adults is steep..... until they see a dropoff in attendance, they will continue to charge the fees.....


I feel at the families expense.....:headache:

[Colson39]

Actually, that would be at Disney's expense, not the families ;)

I don't see Hoop Dee Doo prices going up dramatically anytime soon, and like most of you, I too think the price is a bit steep. You do get a lot for the price, but all of us would like to pay less for anything!

However, it's still a pain in the butt to get reservations for that show unless you're going on a really dead weekend or if you made them far enough in advance. As GatorDad mentioned, they obviously are still seeing a very packed show, so don't expect any changes soon. It's been a long time since I've seen Disney "lower" the price on anything :/

[tellnotails]

Lowering the price and/or increasing the age for children would be feasible to both ;) families and wdw.

[Colson39]

Lowering the price is only feasible to WDW if it means their profits increase ;)

As for increasing the age for children, right now, the age limit is 3-9. I think that is a very reasonable age range (that is what most companies follow), and plenty of kids age 10+ have no problem eating their fare share. I understand where you're coming from, but if you raise it to 10, than people will say why isn't it 11. Then you raise it to 11, and people wonder why a 13 year old has to pay adult prices.

I know kids that are 10 or 11, and they can easily eat an adult share of food. IF anything, raise it to 10, but I can't see why they would raise it above that.

[tellnotails]

And how large is your family?

[F4disneyfan]

Some folks over on the DDP dining forum are seriously slamming the Hoop-Dee-Doo. Cheesy show, old costumes, so so food. Is it that bad ?? I've heard such great things about it on this board so I am confused.

- Is it that the other people are just used to more high end places and resorts and maybe not into camping ??

- Do the Fort Wilderness regulars just love it because of the experience and maybe because of the nostalgia ??

If this show wasn't at The Fort, would you still go to it ??

We did the HDDR this past Dec while we were there and loved it even the kids there was lots of food even for picky children who hate everything (no not ours my inlaws kids LOL). The beer was draught but hey all you could drink was worth it even if it was only draught beer. This is one meal we are sure to do again next we are going to try the back yard BBQ. We don't stay at FW but try to get over for a walk and campfire each trip it is a place I can handle in small doses and even if HDDR wasn't at FW I would go again.

[Colson39]

And how large is your family?

When my entire family goes, there are quite a few of us. Which is why we don't normally do the Hoop Dee Doo, because of the price.

If it's just my wife and I, then sometimes we plan on going, other times we don't even think about it.

Like I said, it's not that I don't agree on the fact that we wish it was cheaper. I just don't look at the fact that we can't always afford it in the same light as you do, that's all :) In the end, we both want the same thing though. As I've said before, I wish I could go to the Hoop Dee Doo every time we go, it's just not feasible however.

[F4disneyfan]

When my entire family goes, there are quite a few of us. Which is why we don't normally do the Hoop Dee Doo, because of the price.

If it's just my wife and I, then sometimes we plan on going, other times we don't even think about it.

Like I said, it's not that I don't agree on the fact that we wish it was cheaper. I just don't look at the fact that we can't always afford it in the same light as you do, that's all :) In the end, we both want the same thing though. As I've said before, I wish I could go to the Hoop Dee Doo every time we go, it's just not feasible however.

Wow we found it to be a blast with our large group in Dec we had 17 people with us for the show and dinner and it made it such a memorable time especially when the performers came to our table and made my brother in law go as red as a beete LOL.

[Colson39]

Wow we found it to be a blast with our large group in Dec we had 17 people with us for the show and dinner and it made it such a memorable time especially when the performers came to our table and made my brother in law go as red as a beete LOL.

Oh don't get me wrong, sometimes our entire family will go! In fact, for my 30th Birthday we spent it at the Fort and my entire family was there, we went to the Hoop Dee Doo with about 10 of us in total, it was a blast!

It's easier if you get everyone to kind of pay for themselves, it's not nearly as bad that way (of course, someone still has to pay for the kids...lol).

[auntie]

And how large is your family?

That's EXACTLY what's got some of us taking a breath and saying.."hey is it worth it?"...especially having seen it before. Yes..it was good hearted family fun. That being said..is it something I want to spend $300. to $400 on again? When I'm the one pulling the cash out the wallet? When you've got 5 or 6 mouths to feed at ADULT prices?...Maybe not. My kids at 10 weren't eating adult sized portions..at least not $59.00 dollars worth! Might be somewhere you would eat if you knew your kids were capable of eating enough to make it somewhat worth the price. These are things to consider when deciding whether you want to spend the money. If on the dining plan you need to allocate two table service credits for this experience. It's really an individual decision. For some it's a once in a life time visit..and they are going all out. Others are on a budget, in which case..you aren't going to include this in your plans. I know if it were my husband and myself..we might decide to go for it..when we have four or five along with us..I'd be giving it a second thought or two.

[F4disneyfan]

Oh don't get me wrong, sometimes our entire family will go! In fact, for my 30th Birthday we spent it at the Fort and my entire family was there, we went to the Hoop Dee Doo with about 10 of us in total, it was a blast!

It's easier if you get everyone to kind of pay for themselves, it's not nearly as bad that way (of course, someone still has to pay for the kids...lol).

It is also easy if you are on the dining plan as all but our family was so 12 of the 17 people had no worry but even still I equate that to the cost of taking my mother and father in law and one of our friends from Cali to the Cali Grill to the tune of 500 US for the meal for the 5 of us. The kids all stayed at the resort so our 3 were entertained by their cousins LOL. That was just food costs not including drinks with drinks the meal was over 650 which my wife and I paid for. We felt obligated as the week before we all left for Disney my in laws gave us back our money from paying for our cruise as everyone was supposed to pay thier own way on the cruise but the in laws decided to give us all back our money so we took them for dinner to say thanks.

[Colson39]

It is also easy if you are on the dining plan as all but our family was so 12 of the 17 people had no worry but even still I equate that to the cost of taking my mother and father in law and one of our friends from Cali to the Cali Grill to the tune of 500 US for the meal for the 5 of us. The kids all stayed at the resort so our 3 were entertained by their cousins LOL. That was just food costs not including drinks with drins the meal was over 650.

Yea, the good thing is you're not only paying for food, you're also getting to see a great show (although that's up to personal opinion...lol)! That's why the price doesn't bother me as much as it would if it was just the food (which would make no sense), there is no other show like it in Disney World, and actually, I've never seen another show like it anywhere near where I live!

You are exactly right, there are some places you can go to eat and easily spend twice as much money, and just get an hour long meal (and as you mentioned, no drinks!).

For 50- 59 bucks, for all you can eat, all you can drink, taking up a couple of hours, and getting a really good show at that, I think it's worth the money. It adds up the more people you go with, but that's to be expected.

[F4disneyfan]

Yea, the good thing is you're not only paying for food, you're also getting to see a great show (although that's up to personal opinion...lol)! That's why the price doesn't bother me as much as it would if it was just the food (which would make no sense), there is no other show like it in Disney World, and actually, I've never seen another show like it anywhere near where I live!

You are exactly right, there are some places you can go to eat and easily spend twice as much money, and just get an hour long meal (and as you mentioned, no drinks!).

For 50- 59 bucks, for all you can eat, all you can drink, taking up a couple of hours, and getting a really good show at that, I think it's worth the money. It adds up the more people you go with, but that's to be expected.

I agree I look at our meal at teh Cali Grill ( I didn't even like it) and what it cost compared to our HDDR meal and cost and the HDDR was by far a better meal and deal for us in comparison. I didn't actually like anything offered on the menue at the Cali Grill I wanted to go to the Flying Fish instead but they wanted to try CG so we went there. I think my father in law liked his meal the rest of us werent all that impressed with it at all.

[auntie]

Didn't they used to offer a 9:30 performance for this show..I know it was a while back..but if I remember correctly that particular performance was less money also? My kids were young at the time, and I remember thinking by the time we would be done the younger two would be falling a sleep in their seats. However..I have to tell you going with young adult kids now(youngest being 15..and he could put me to sleep!)...that would be a nice alternative.

[Colson39]

They still offer a 9:30 performance, but I think they all are the same price.

[tellnotails]

Okay, I thought you had kids yourself .......my bad;)

[auntie]

Hmm..I thought I remembered one of the performances being less expensive at one point. Maybe I was thinking of the old Mickey Luau for the kids at the Poly.:confused3 They used to have a 4:30 performance..earlier than the night time one..and geared for the kids. We've been to the 7:30 performance of the HDDR so as to catch the Electric Water Pagent on Bay Lake afterward. I thought I had seen that they weren't offering three performances a night all year round any longer.

[Colson39]

Okay, I thought you had kids yourself .......my bad;)

We do, in a sense...lol. Normally when we go we pay for my parents, brother, and my nephew, just as a thank you for all the great times we had growing up.

Just because you don't have kids of your own doesn't mean you're always just paying for yourself ;) You're not the only one that feels the stretch of a pocketbook my friend, kids or no kids, that really has no relevance to this at all :P

[Colson39]

Hmm..I thought I remembered one of the performances being less expensive at one point. Maybe I was thinking of the old Mickey Luau for the kids at the Poly.:confused3 They used to have a 4:30 performance..earlier than the night time one..and geared for the kids. We've been to the 7:30 performance of the HDDR so as to catch the Electric Water Pagent on Bay Lake afterward. I thought I had seen that they weren't offering three performances a night all year round any longer.


Some people post rumours around here just to get people riled up, they are normally not true at all ;)

There are still going to be three performances a night, that is not changing at all. The only thing changing is that (I posted this earlier in this thread):

The Hoop Dee Doo Musical Revue is planning to scale back its schedule during the “Low Fall” season of 2007. From August 30 - October 29, 2007, the dinner show is scheduled to perform Thursday through Monday only.

Which makes sense, those are the most dead times at the Fort and WDW, no sense in running a show at those times.

[proudmomof4]

Didn't they used to offer a 9:30 performance for this show..I know it was a while back..but if I remember correctly that particular performance was less money also? My kids were young at the time, and I remember thinking by the time we would be done the younger two would be falling a sleep in their seats. However..I have to tell you going with young adult kids now(youngest being 15..and he could put me to sleep!)...that would be a nice alternative.

They do have a 9:30 show and that is when the discounts are offered. I have used my DDE card to get 20% off.

[Colson39]

Yep, ProudMom is right, now I remember. We were going to go a year ago, but we didn't want to go at 9:30, but we wanted to use our DDE card, so we just ended up not going.

Thanks for the info, I had totally forgotten about that!

[auntie]

They do have a 9:30 show and that is when the discounts are offered. I have used my DDE card to get 20% off.



Thanks....I knew that there something about the later show being discounted.
Almost $12 a person difference...that could add up to some pretty big savings if you are taking 5 or 6 people. :thumbsup2

[Colson39]

Don't forget, you don't have to get the 59 dollar package either, the 50 dollar package is available, and that as well can save you 9 bucks a person. The view to me is the same really no matter where you are, so it's not much of a difference in the packages.

[Gatordad]

Pardon me for not knowing, but what is a DDE card?

[Colson39]

Disney Dining Experience card. You basically can get 20% of on most meals/drinks/etc... Instead of me paraphrasing, here is some more info:

Disney Dining Experience
The Disney Dining Experience (DDE) is a discount program that was originally offered only to Florida residents. In 2005 it was opened up to Annual Passholders, too.

The DDE program grants participants a discount of 20% off of their total food and beverage purchases (including alcohol) at most WDW dining locations. The cost for an annual DDE membership is as follows:

General Membership (Florida Residents ONLY): $85.00
Annual Passholders' Rate: $60.00
Florida Resident (non-Passholder) Renewals: $70.00 (for existing memberships received within 30 days of expiration date)
Add a second membership for your spouse or partner for only $25 more
Click HERE for a current list of Disney dining locations currently participating in the DDE program.

The 20% discount is applied for up to ten (10) diners on the same check at an eligible dining location. Other benefits include:

Half price admission to Pleasure Island for the cardholder and one (1) guest.
Complimentary parking at a theme park for short periods for the sole purpose of dining within the theme park. Guests must pay for parking upon arrival and can then obtain a refund at Guest Relations following their dinner.
Invitation to DDE special events.


DDE discounts cannot be combined with any other dining discount program.

There are a number of blackout dates for the DDE including New Year’s Day, Easter, Mother’s Day, Independence Day, Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day and New Year’s Day.

Character meals are eligible for the DDE discount. However, the DDE discount is not available on Fantasmic Dinner Packages.



We've been using it for a while, simply as Florida residents. I think it's nice that they've opened it up to AP holders as well now, it really is a great discount card.

A prime example, let's just say that we've saved QUITE a bit of money at the Rose and Crown in Epcot. We've had some bar tabs in the hundreds with larger groups of people, and it really is nice to be able to use it towards alcohol as well. Even if you're just getting a single drink, it's kind of nice. For instance, if I get a rum and coke or a beer, and it's $5.00, with the DDE card, it's only $4.00, that 20% just makes you feel good...lol.

You can use it almost anywhere in Disney, and 20% off of meals is a humungous benefit throughout a trip. We use it for tons of meals, especially during our long Thanksgiving trip (although it's blacked out on Thanksgiving Day), we normally save one to two hundred dollars depending on how much we eat away from the camper. We've found the card pays for itself after about 4 days of use on average.

I've always wondered how much Disney profits from offering things to Florida residents (although as I said, this is now available to AP holders as well), such as how much extra business they assume it brings in.

[Gatordad]

Thanks for the 411. Not a bad deal, for $85. We are seasonal passholders, and try to go 4-5x a year.

Where does one purchase it?:cool1:

[auntie]

No fifty lashes with the wet noodle here but..let me ask this... We have quite a few relatives living in Fl. Quite possibly someone already has one. Would I be able to use one of their cards? :confused3

[F4disneyfan]

DVC members can also get the DDE cards and from what I have heard many DVCers love it and prefer it to the dining plan. Plus they apparently get a healthy discount on it. We rarely eat meals outside our villa so DDP and DDE are of no real importance to us when we only eat 1 to 2 meals out in a week so 4 total in our 2 week holiday.

[Colson39]

No fifty lashes with the wet noodle here but..let me ask this... We have quite a few relatives living in Fl. Quite possibly someone already has one. Would I be able to use one of their cards? :confused3

We have used others quite a few times, no worries :)

Also note, WDW-DINE (407-939-3463) will book priority seatings for guests who are members of Disney Dining Experience.

DVC members can also get the DDE cards and from what I have heard many DVCers love it and prefer it to the dining plan. Plus they apparently get a healthy discount on it.

Yep, they only have to pay 60 bucks compared to what the rest of us pay, $85.00. Nice discount indeed!

Where does one purchase it?

MEMBERSHIP AND CARD INFORMATION: Call Disney Dining Experience office at (407) 566-5858, Monday through Friday between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. Membership is not available on property. Membership is only available by mail or phone.

BY MAIL: Disney's Dining Experience, Post Office Box 10000, Lake Buena Vista, FL 32830

BY PHONE: (407) 566-5858.

NOTE: Allow several weeks for processing. If you will visit Walt Disney World before you receive your membership card, you can arrange to pick up a letter of authorization from a Guest Relations office. You will need to show a photo I.D. to pick up this letter.



Here is a list of the places that honor it:


Participating Restaurants and Lounges in the DDE as of February 2007:

All-Star Music Resort
Intermission Food Court

All-Star Sports Resort
End Zone Food Court


All-Star Movies Resort
World Premiere Food Court


Animal Kingdom Lodge
Boma-Flavors of Africa
Jiko-The Cooking Place
Victoria Falls

Beach Club Resort
Beaches & Cream Soda Shop
(eat in only)
Cape May Cafe
Martha's Vineyard Lounge


BoardWalk
Bellevue Lounge
ESPN Club
Flying Fish Cafe
Spoodles

Eagle Pines and Osprey Ridge Golf Club
Sand Trap Bar & Grill

Caribbean Beach Resort
Shutters at Old Port Royale

Contemporary Resort
California Grill
Chef Mickey's
Concourse Steakhouse
Outer Rim Lounge

Coronado Springs Resort
Maya Grill

Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground
Crockett's Tavern
Hoop-Dee-Doo Musical Revue (9:30 p.m. show only, offered seasonally)
Trail's End Restaurant

Grand Floridian Resort & Spa
1900 Park Fare
Cítricos
Garden View Lounge
Grand Floridian Cafe
Mizner's Lounge
Narcoossee's
Victoria & Albert's (excluding Chef's Table)

Old Key West Resort
Olivia's Cafe

Polynesian Resort
'Ohana
Kona Cafe
Spirit of Aloha Dinner Show (late show only)
Tambu Lounge

Pop Century Resort
Everything Pop Dining
Classic Concoctions

Port Orleans Resort
Riverside:
Boatwright's Dining Hall
River Roost
French Quarter:
Scat Cat's Club
Sassagoula Floatworks and Food Factory

Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa
The Turf Club Bar and Grill


Wilderness Lodge
Artist Point
Territory Lounge
Whispering Canyon Cafe

Yacht Club Resort
Ale and Compass Lounge
Crew's Cup Lounge
Yacht Club Galley
Yachtsman Steakhouse

DOWNTOWN DISNEY Marketplace
Cap'n Jack's Restaurant

DOWNTOWN DISNEY Pleasure Island
Raglan Road


DOWNTOWN DISNEY West Side
Planet Hollywood

Epcot
Akershus Royal Banquet Hall
Biergarten Restaurant
Bistro de Paris Restaurant
Chefs de France Restaurant
Coral Reef Restaurant
L'Originale Alfredo di Roma Ristorante
Le Cellier Steakhouse
Nine Dragons Restaurant
Restaurant Marrakesh
Rose & Crown Pub & Dining Room
San Angel Inn Restaurante
The Garden Grill Restaurant

Disney-MGM Studios
50's Prime Time Cafe
Hollywood & Vine
Mama Melrose's Ristorante Italiano
Sci-Fi Dine-In Theater Restaurant
The Hollywood Brown Derby
Tune-In Lounge

Magic Kingdom
Cinderella's Royal Table
Liberty Tree Tavern
The Crystal Palace
The Plaza Restaurant
Tony's Town Square Restaurant

Animal Kingdom
Tusker House Restaurant
Pizzafari
Flame Tree Barbecue
Restaurantosaurus

Disney’s Wide World of Sports
Official All-Star Cafe

Disney's Vero Beach Resort
The Green Cabin Room
Shutters Restaurant
Sonya's Fine Steaks & Chops (Sunday Brunch not included)

Entertainment & Dancing:

DOWNTOWN DISNEY Pleasure Island:
Half price admission to Pleasure Island Clubs for members and guest;
except for specially priced events

Atlantic Dance Hall - Disney’s BoardWalk:
Admission is free for members and guest

[tellnotails]

Unfortunate, that DDE, does no benefit to a young family or old:guilty:

[Colson39]

Unfortunate, that DDE, does no benefit to a young family or old:guilty:

Please, there is no age requirement, or anything restricting a family from getting it. The only restrictions are that you be a Florida resident, an AP holder, or a DVC club member. What, are only middle aged families allowed to be those?

Come on :/

[tellnotails]

I don't think there is alot of families with kids 0-9 attending the 9:30pm show...:sad2:

[Gatordad]

all you need to do is spend $425 and you've broken even.... Heck, lunch alone was $35 last time at Epcot.

[tellnotails]

How does a DDE benefit a young family who would like to take in the hddr?:confused:

[Colson39]

all you need to do is spend $425 and you've broken even.... Heck, lunch alone was $35 last time at Epcot.

Yea, that's the great thing about it, it doesn't take long, and it's already payed for itself. After that, you're getting "free" money!

I'm just happy that it is accepted pretty much all over the world, they easily could have restricted it, especially when they increased the amount of people it was available to, but they didn't.

I wonder if they'll ever make it available, but at an obviously higher price, outside of the current Florida resident/AP/DVC restrictions they have on it now?

[tellnotails]

How does a DDE benefit a young family who would like to take in the hddr?:confused:


:rolleyes1

[Colson39]

Oh one other thing, the Disney Dining Experience discount cannot be combined with any other discount or package. This includes events such as Fantasmic Dinner Package, Epcot Food and Wine Festival Events, and Candlelight Dinner Packages.

I know a lot of people do these packages, and the discount would be nice for them if they had it. Especially the Food and Wine festival, it's wayyyyyy too easy to spend money at that thing, it's like a smorgasbord of food! lol

[Shannone1]

Unfortunate, that DDE, does no benefit to a young family or old:guilty:


I don't think that's true at all. There were lots of places on that list that participated. I can see how ANYONE would save money. :) :) :)

If saving money AND going to the Hoop-Dee-Doo were that big of a deal for you...just let the kids take naps that afternoon and stay up late for the 9:30 show. It's a vacation...no one says they have to go to bed at a certain time. And what a special treat for them ;)

[tellnotails]

I would love to hear how the 9:30 show goes for 0-9 families......and if the savings would be worth the inconvience of staying out of the parks for 2-days so you can get your 2 naps before show and have a shot morning after?

9:30 start 11:30 finish +or- should be back at the campsite by 12:00am.;)



Increasing the age limit and or reducing the child price would be a more sensible alternative....imo

[F4disneyfan]

I would love to hear how the 9:30 show goes for 0-9 families......and if the savings would be worth the inconvience of staying out of the parks for 2-days so you can get your 2 naps before show and have a shot morning after?

9:30 start 11:30 finish +or- should be back at the campsite by 12:00am.;)



Increasing the age limit and or reducing the child price would be a more sensible alternative....imo


Wow your kids must crash hard our 4 and 5 year olds are up till about midnight almost every night we are on holidays at Disney and they are both up for 7 AM the next day they take after me night owls and morning people I go t bed at 3 or 3:30 AM every night and I am up for 6:30 to get them ready for school.

[Colson39]

You have to stay out of the parks for 2 days because you want to take your kids to the Hoop Dee Doo at 9:30?

I understand it's hard to get kids to stay up late, but we've had my nephew up many a time that late at Disney, and when we were kids, we saw quite a few shows that late. Just take a nap, and you don't need to miss 2 park days to do it, jeesh, no drama please! ;)

P.S. I was going to say the same thing as F4disneyfan , I know lots of kids that are up that late, midnight or so at Disney. Just plan your time accordingly, you won't miss anything. And I'm sorry in advance if for some reason your kids have to be in bed by 9 PM every night.

[tellnotails]

No drama ....

I love hearing it from families with kids.......:thumbsup2



Not many parents I know that have kids with that kinda clock...

9:30 show is a no go for my family and a majority young families imo....

[Colson39]

Sounds like the Hoop Dee Doo is not for you, maybe the campfire sing-a-long is a better choice, or perhaps a show at another resort?

I see lots of kids outside the 9:30 shows, it's not only adults. To each their own, I guess we're lucky to have a young nephew that can stay up so late!

[SunshineCamper]

My kids would be starving by 9:30 even with a late lunch. Nap?!! My kids are 9 & 7 -NAP at Disney?! Never going to happen-in their minds they might miss something. i know I'm probably one of the few who's kids won't nap-but it would be nice. Good thought.:goodvibes

[Colson39]

Yea, I have the same problem, I can't take a nap at Disney because I'm too afraid I might miss something...lol

[auntie]

My daughter even at age 9 would have been fast a sleep in her plate at a 9:30 pm show. On the other hand her younger brother could be up all night and still be up at 7 am the next morning. Each child is different. I know the 9:30 wouldn't have worked for us..because we would have been carrying the older out! My babies aren't babies any more...and the youngest is 15 going on 16..so we are wearing out WAY before he is! In any case, we went to the Mickey's BackYard BBQ about 7 years ago. I know the youngest was about 8 at the time and thought he was getting too old for it...he had a BALL! If you like country music, they had a good band. They taught some line dancing. Characters..including Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, came out several times during the show and there was more than enough time for autographs and photos. By the end of the evening they were dancing amongst the crowd. It was good family fun. The food was about the same as HDDR..and also hot dogs and hamburgers..corn on the cob and the like. Not great..but not bad either..what you'd expect. I think it's much better suited to young families than the HDDR. You sit family style at picnic tables, and little ones aren't confined to their seats. It's not an issue if they want to get up and walk around..as that's what everyone is doing. Teens will probably find it lame..but for younger families it was a good alternative. At the time it was less expensive than HDDR. I know it's not offered at all times of the year. As it is outside in a screened in pavillion. We went in May and were very comfortable.

[Colson39]

GREAT idea, for those that aren't interested or can't make the Hoop Dee Doo, Mickey's Backyard BBQ is a great alternative!

I've never been personally, but I've heard nothing but good things about it, and I've walked by the pavilion quite a few times.

And yea, each kid is different, some can stay up late, others can't. It's kind of hard to make guidelines based of something as finicky as that though...heh

Edit:

I looked up some more info for TellNoTails and others that might be interested. It's not as inexpensive as I had thought, but it's still a nice alternative to the Hoop Dee Doo:

Mickey's Backyard BBQ,
a buffet dinner and dance featuring entertainment and character experiences.


DATES:
Thursdays and Saturdays
March 1 - December 29, 2007



TIME:
6:30 to 9:30 p.m.

PLACE:
The Outdoor Pavilion at Fort Wilderness


PRICE:
$44.99 Guest ages 10 and up, tax and gratuity included
$26.99 Guest ages 3-9, tax and gratuity included

Full payment is required for Mickey's Backyard BBQ at the time of booking. As long as you cancel up to 48 hours in advance, you will receive a full refund.


All-You-Can-Eat Buffet:

Tossed Garden Salad

Fresh Herb Potatos Salad
Creamy Cole Slaw, Cornbread

Smoked BBQ Chicken
BBQ Pork Ribs
Cheeseburgers
Steamed Hot Dogs

Cowboy Beans
Macaroni and Cheese
Corn on the Cob

Watermelon
Ice Cream Bars
Itzadadoozie Bars
Strawberry Bars

Lemonade, Ice Tea, Beer and Wine

Reservations Available through (407) WDW-DINE, (407) 939-3463
Booked by seats, not tables. No seat assignments, guests are seated as they arrive.

[tellnotails]

Perhaps you should start a mbbbq thread...........:rolleyes1


I think we are getting some good info for the OP but I dont see were mbbbq is an alternative to hddr....not even close.....

You bring good opinions for the young couples and newlyweds:thumbsup2

[Colson39]

Perhaps you should start a mbbbq thread...........:rolleyes1


I think we are getting some good info for the OP but I dont see were mbbbq is an alternative to hddr....not even close.....

You bring good opinions for the young couples and newlyweds:thumbsup2

Well I guess then you're not happy with any dinner show at Fort Wilderness, hopefully you can find an alternative somewhere. Let's just move on.

P.S. I've been going to Disney a lot longer than I have been a newlywed, so I would hope that my opinion is good for anyone. I don't judge people or their opinions based on their backgrounds :(

[proudmomof4]

I don't think there is alot of families with kids 0-9 attending the 9:30pm show...:sad2:

My family did, maybe this is not for your family but other families may be able to be more flexible time wise when they are on vacation.

You can't judge all families on what your family will or won't or can or can't do.

[proudmomof4]

No fifty lashes with the wet noodle here but..let me ask this... We have quite a few relatives living in Fl. Quite possibly someone already has one. Would I be able to use one of their cards? :confused3

I have used mine for other family members, recently, for my brother's intimate wedding reception at a Disney resort restaurant, they let me use it for him and I saved him over $100.00. :woohoo:

[tellnotails]

My family did, maybe this is not for your family but other families may be able to be more flexible time wise when they are on vacation.

You can't judge all families on what your family will or won't or can or can't do.




Could you share your experience with us on taking a young family to the 9:30 hddr.......what was the age of the kids...what did you do to prepare them for the late hour.....how did the following morning go behavior wise.....

[AllesonWonderland]

We just got back from our first trip to WDW and saw the HDDR. Everyone loved it!! The kids 6 and 9 gobbled up all their food. (Mom and dad had plenty too.) I tried the sangria, but didn't really care for it, so I couldn't take advantage of the 'all you can drink' aspect. :) Again, I loved the show. I'm a theatre gal, so I don't know if that jades me at all. My 6 year old son was laughing really loud though. We already looked on Youtube and found some clips of the performances. We had a table right in the middle, one row back from the stage. The view was great. Yes, I called 180 days in advance and yes it was pricey. But, since they charge your credit card upfront I had it paid off long ago. I added it into our final food budget and didn't think we did too bad. It was a splurge that we enjoyed. We went to the 5pm show.

[Colson39]

I tried the sangria, but didn't really care for it

Strangely, it seems (at least in what I've heard) that this is normal. I don't know if it's because people aren't used to drinking it (I personally can't stand it), or if it's a bad brand that they have, but I rarely ever hear someone raving about the Sangria at the Hoop Dee Doo.

I understand it's probably cheaper to use Sangria than actual wine, especially for all you can drink, but Sangria to me has always been kind of an "exotic" type drink that takes a personal taste bud to enjoy.

[GreatLakes5]

Keeping kids up for the 9:30 HDDR would be no different than keeping them up for the late campfire followed by movie - puncutated by the sugar of countless marshmallows. Either you have kids that can handle it or kids that crash and burn early. I have a mix - we tend to split up come night fall so we personally would not do the late Hoop Dee Doo until they are all a bit older. Until that time, if we really want to go, we use the DDP to cover it earlier or splurge and pay cash to get a time that works.

[tellnotails]

Keeping kids up for the 9:30 HDDR would be no different than keeping them up for the late campfire followed by movie - puncutated by the sugar of countless marshmallows. Either you have kids that can handle it or kids that crash and burn early. I have a mix - we tend to split up come night fall so we personally would not do the late Hoop Dee Doo until they are all a bit older. Until that time, if we really want to go, we use the DDP to cover it earlier or splurge and pay cash to get a time that works.

9:30 is the only hddr show that offers any $ break......;)

[Colson39]

She's talking about using the Disney Dining Plan, not the DDE. She's not asking for a money break (aka she doesn't care about the 9:30 show), she's simply saying that they either use the DDP to go earlier, or if they need to and can't use the DDP, they pay cash.

[tellnotails]

Greatlakes......bankrupt....Our elected officials will surely save us :lmao:

[tellnotails]

$58 for adults is steep..... until they see a dropoff in attendance, they will continue to charge the fees.....

Is any one seeing any empty tables.......

I saw several when we were there in feb. at the 5:00 and 7:00 shows.....

Perhaps they could offer families standby for a discount....

[Colson39]

One night of empty tables really doesn't mean anything. The Hoop Dee Doo is still one of the hardest dinner shows in all of Walt Disney World to get reservations for (speaking in general). That being said, it is the longest running dinner show, so it probably isn't near at the peak of it's attendance, since people have already seen it, want to see something different, etc...

In February (and other more "dead" times at Disney), chances are you'll see some empty tables here and there, simply because there isn't the population to support full shows all week long. Someone could have cancelled, there are a number of reasons there could be an empty table. Now if the shows were constantly only filling halfway up, then Disney might have to do something, but that isn't even close to being true right now.

Why would they offer standby at a discount? If you get to see the show, you should pay the same price as everyone else, just because you were on a standby list doesn't mean you should pay less.

[GreatLakes5]

I'm with you - it's like standby for baseball tickets or anything else....just because I get lucky and something's available doesn't mean I'll be paying less.

I think it comes down to either you want to see it bad enough to pay the price, or you want to spend money other places. Disney is not cheap in general so it's not really all that shocking that a dinner show is costly.

If you want to save the money try the late night - no one knows your kids like you do! If you want to go this year perhaps there are other areas you don't mind skimping on to simply purchase your tickets to this.

[tellnotails]

Jeesh sorry I asked:sad2:

[F4disneyfan]

Is any one seeing any empty tables.......

I saw several when we were there in feb. at the 5:00 and 7:00 shows.....

Perhaps they could offer families standby for a discount....

This past Dec which is a slow time at Disney we attended the HDDR and the place was packed and we went to the 7 PM show there was no empty seats anyplace in the building not even on the balcony.

[tellnotails]

This past Dec which is a slow time at Disney we attended the HDDR and the place was packed and we went to the 7 PM show there was no empty seats anyplace in the building not even on the balcony.

Was that on the weekends?

When we were there the weekdays looked slow with no 9:30 show available...

[F4disneyfan]

Was that on the weekends?

When we were there the weekdays looked slow with no 9:30 show available...


This was on a Monday night.