Can you convince my wife that Vistana Villages is better than HIFS?

[jasper577]

We are a family of four with two DD ages 5 and 10. Can you convince my wife that Vistana Villages 2-BR suite will be nicer than a kidsuites at HIFS? From what I have looked at online, the rooms at Vistana Villages look far superior and are presently much lower in cost than HIFS ($99 versus $129 with the seventh night free at Vistana Villages). She thinks that the theming at HIFS makes it a more attractive place to stay with the kids. I think the pool, rooms, and grounds look a lot nicer at Vistana Villages and there is still a playground and zero-entry pool for the kids. There is enough theming at the "theme parks," I'd rather come back at night to a luxurious 2-BR suite and relax than a modified hotel room kidsuite with jungle-themed wallpaper. So can you either convince me that HIFS is just fine, or convince her that Vistana is better? Thanks a bunch.

[preb]

IMHO, your kids will like HIFS better and you'll like Vistana better. We've stayed at HIFS twice this year and enjoyed both of our stays. We have a DD that's 2 and she loves it there. The pool, playground, clowns, face painting, train ride, arcade, ducks and swans...she was in heaven.

Now, having said that, I am seriously considering Vistana for our next stay, simply to try something new and to have a little more breathing room.

Therefore, I am also very interested in anyones else's opinions!

Does Vistana offer free breakfast? Are there laundry facilities in the rooms? Patios/balconies? Full kitchens vrs kitchenettes? What's the difference between the two resorts? Where are they located? Do they offer decent and affordable restaurants on site?

Has anyone stayed at both???:)

[CDisney]

I've only stayed at HIFS (just recently in November). I'm leaning more towards Vistana Villages for our next stay because there is more space than HIFS and Vistana Villages has the washer and dryer in the room. The pool area also looks fantastic with its waterfalls, etc.

Many of the interactive water toys in the HIFS pool did not work, which disappointed my sons. Having come from the luxury of the Hard Rock Hotel, I found the beds at HIFS to be uncomfortable and the sheets scratchy. My sons had fun with the putt putt golf at the HIFS. I had to cut their time on the playground equipment short, however, when I noticed that the slides, tunnels, etc., had a strong smell of urine.

If you do a search on the trip reports board, you will find a very detailed description of Vistana Villages.

[Lucky'sMom]

I have a ressie at VV booked for Jan 22-31...just curious how you got the 7th night free. We booked through Hotel Kingdom.com. By the way, we stayed at HIFS on our last trip in Feb 2000, and liked it very much, but the rooms are very small compared to a villa. We're so excited to try VV!

[hercamore]

Hi Jasper,

I reserarched the HIFS and the VV for our trip this august. We ended up staying at the Residence Inn LBV, but that's another story.
You said it all in your post....the rooms at VV look to be beautiful and spacious and you are getting a good rate.

The only real plus of the HIFS over the VV that I can see is the HIFS has an awesome location just outside the parks. VV is a little further away, but still close too.If it were me, I would choose the beautiful VV over a Holiday Inn, however nice it may be.

Hercamore

[jasper577]

OK. You have all given me some hope that I can convince her to go with VV over HIFS, but I think I'll need a few more helpful posts to do the trick. Thanks to all who replied so far and I'm glad that most of those who tried HIFS had a nice stay. By the way Lucky's Mom, there are blackout dates for the seventh night free deal through hotelkingdom.com so perhaps your travel dates were among them. Preb, I believe VV have full kitchens with a full size refrigerator but no free breakfast and don't know about restaurants on site. They do have balconies or patios from what I've seen. Keep the post coming. Thanks.

[jdm]

We have stayed at HIFS and not at VV, however we do have a timeshare and are familiar with condo's such as VV. We were extremely disappointed with HIFS and the tiny-ness of it all. Extremely cramped when comparing it to a condo with a full size kitchen and lets' not forget the washer and dryer. One of your children is 10 and might find the kidsuite a little babyish. We had the endangered species room with all these Hawks staring at us (scaaaarey!). We are going in Feb and have a 2 bedroom at RI reserved but are going to try to do an exchange through RCI for Vistana Villages. Good luck convinceing your wife! I don't think you'll be sorry if you choose the largeer accomodations.
Jenn

[tsapen]

We recently stayed at the Vistana Villages---and absolutely loved it! We have a family of 6, and more than enough room for all of the suitcases, baggage, toys, etc. to be put in closets and out of the way. The villa was so big--- we had the two bedroom one-- that we were never falling over each other. It was so great to have the washer and dryer in the room--- those beach towels were always dry and fresh--plus we could wash and re-wear our favorite things! The Vistana Villages are definitely worth it! Our children loved the day we stayed back at the resort and used the pool. The recreation staff had bingo, pool relay games etc. for entertainment, too. It was spacious enough at the pool that we all had chaise lounges and plenty of room to swim. The drive from VV to WDW was very easy, and not that much further than HIFS. Good luck with your decision.

[jasper577]

All your posts have been very helpful, but it's not working. She thinks she wants more of the hotel-type experience at HIFS with more food choices, though she admits that the grounds and villas at Vistana Villages are more luxurious. How would you decsribe the difference in atmosphere between HIFS and VV? How do the pools compare? Can someone provide a detailed description of the food options at VV and nearby locatiosn that are within a couple of minutes drive? Thanks again. Also, based on current rates, we would save $270 at VV and she is the one that is more budget-conscious than me so you can see how much convincing I still need to do. Oh, I do love her dearly so you know who is going to win this one in the long run :-)

[sandyneck]

I also was between the HIFS and VV. We picked the Villages and LOVE IT. We are going back there again in March. If you didn't see my other post, you can also get a 7th night free at the VV to sweeten the deal. There are a few black out dates, but not many. Food choices are limited at the VV. They have a deli which has Boars head sandwiches and Starbucks coffee(all I needed to convince me!) and they also serve some hot items like chicken nuggets, burgers, etc. There is no room service. It is very close to The Pointe which is an upscale outside mall which offers quite a few dining options and also has a huge FAO Swartz toy store. The rooms are absolutely fabulous. We have stayed in many hotels in many places and this is my favorite room(2bedroom Suite) It has full kitchen, washer dryer, huge master bedroom with big jacuzzi--not one of those bathtub ones, a full size seperate one-the kids loved it. It has two double beds in the other room-2 full baths-screened in balcony with table and chairs. As far as luxury is concerned there is no comparison. Now, my sister stayed at the VV with us last year and this year she wanted the food choices like your wife so they stayed at the Vistana Resort. This is the VV sister resort in LBV. The place is enormous and has about 7 restauants. You may be able to talk her into that easier. It is sometimes a little more than the VV, but the rooms are about the same. I have 2 kids 5&7 and they were very excited to learn we were going back to the VV in march, and they are very picky about hotels believe it or not, must be in the genes!! Good Luck and have fun. Making these kinds of decisions is half the fun of the vacation!!

[jtryan]

Although it seems to me that your wife has made up her mind, I would like to add my opinion for the Vistana Villages. We were there for the first week of December and we (myself, DH, DD age 5 and DD age 7) absolutely LOVED this place. We have not tried HIFS and probably never will. As a prior post has stated it is not much farther although it does not offer much in on-site dining. However, we didn't have to drive much more than 5 minutes to find a restaurant. The unit was very comfortable and had everything we needed. We also had daily maid service which was nice. We were on the second floor and so we had a screened balcony with a table and chairs and a ceiling fan. We will definitely stay at Vistana Villages again on our next visit. Have fun whatever you decide!!

roxanne

[jasper577]

Thanks sandyneck and jtryan. Now maybe if I can get about another 500 posts before the end of the day I'll be victorious!!!! Really, thanks for all the fabulous posts on this topic.

[sandyneck]

Just some more help, there is a post from 12-13 about how disappointing HIFS was to the people who just stayed there, maybe if you show that to your wife you will get some leverage. Does she know we are all ganging up on her? It is for her own good after all!!:D

[ljsmom]

My family was also torn between these two resorts...

We did not select HIFS, but did stay at Vistana Villages in October. My kids loved it (2 & 5) just as much as my husband and I did. The pool is beautiful with zero entry, a fountain and activities. The only thing I did not like is they did not rent life vests (you could buy one). I have read numerous posts about the pool at the HIFS being closed one or more times each day due to babies doing their "business" in the water. You may be able to find some of these posts on these boards.

The two bedroom at VV is quite spacious and beautifully decorated. I don't believe the HIFS are as big. The VV is also a brand new resort. I think it has only been open for a little more than one year. Everything is top notch.


The resort is just a tad farther away from the Disney parks than HIFS and it is closer to SeaWorld. It would have been nice if there were more of a selection in terms of food, but that would certainly not deter me from staying there again. In fact, my husband says he will not stay anywhere else.

If you have any specific questions I would be happy to answer.

Good luck!

[hercamore]

Since you are both "set" on different lodging, I don't suppose you would want to split your stay between the two.

Many, many, people split their time between two hotels. I have done it several times. Kinda gives you a chance to experience something different.

Hercamore

[Tense]

Hi... We haven't stayed at the VV yet(will in April though!) But we have stayed at the Vistana in LBV. We are Disney freaks... love Florida, been several..ok tons of time.. Stayed at HDISS and others off property and many on property too. YC/BC Swan, Dixie landings, CB, BUT by far, for the $$ and even NOT for the $$ The Vistana was Par Excelente! There really isn't any comparison between a HDIS and the Vistana. Vistana is Luxury,Holiday in is just a room with a divider,and not a full kitchen. Vistana has a full kitchen which you might not want to cook, but it sure is nice in the morning to have coffee, and sit at a table and just have toast or cereal while the kids and everyone is getting ready. Also there are 2 bathrooms, Mom and Dad can actually have some private time since the are 2 bedrooms. As much as I love to be on Disney Property, I will never go back as long as I have kids with me. It is too hard squezing them into 1 small room. Hope I helped alittle!

[Belle5]

We were at Vistana Villages in September and let me tell you--it is gorgeous! Sooo clean and well kept, too! Very luxurious! Our balcony overlooked a gorgeous waterfall.

[jasper577]

Unfortunately, my wife is the only one in the family that is not willing to switch to VV from HIFS. DD 5 and 10 are fine with the switch. Her reasons:

1. Wants to be able to walk to a variety of places to eat in the hotel and have a free hot breakfast.
2. Wants to be in a hotel with hotel-type hallways, a hotel lobby, game room, nighttime activities for the kids, etc.

I really don't get it. She admits that VV is more luxurious with nicer grounds, but insists it will be a boring atmosphere compared to HIFS. My theory is that after a fun but long day in the parks, we would all enjoy coming back to a more relaxed VV-type atmosphere and nicer room that a themed hotel like HIFS.

Assuming that she continues to resist, I just hope HIFS is nice and not as crowded, loud, and dare I say cheesy as the first impresssion I have of it.

Maybe there is a "hotel" that is nicer than HIFS (Caribe Royale???) with better rooms and nicer grounds that will work for both of us, but it seems a shame we are passing on VV. The other alternative is to split the vacation between the two places with the added inconvenience of papcing everything up for the switch.

[Tense]

Sorry you can't convince her....Now that I've stayed at a 'real' Suite (villa) I could not imagine going back to a crowded hotel room especially with kids. Would you have your kids sleep in YOUR bedroom at home, eat play and watch TV there...ughhh NO... so why are you willing to do that on vacation IF you don't have to. I've stayed at the Holiday Inn and Suite in LBV. The food was ugh ok did it once never again, the kids check-in wasn't open when WE checked in. The programs for the kids were truely disgusting(I'm going back 6 years now, things could have changed and all properties aren't equal) but it was a room equal in size to a hotel room packed(really 15 kids) with kids. Just a babysitting service.Our daughter picked up some bug in there and was sick..sick ..SICK the whole vacation.... So going by my experiences, you can see why I am not overjoyed with the hotel scene. The room is small(yes even with the suite)and why your wife wants a hotel lobby...you spend 15 min there to check in and check out, and well, I have nothing nice to say about hotel hallways, so I'll say nothing. But your wife never has had these experiences, and as far as food and walking, we went to the parks ate mostly at the parks and NEVER walked anywhere(not an option ,when you have 2 kids who were tuckered out after the parks)..loved coming home to the villa and tucking them into there own beds in there own bedroom, and my husband and I could stay up watch the news and have an adult conversation(uninteruptted) with a glass of wine in our had, and sleep when we felt like it....Sorry this is soooo long...but I feel pretty strong about it....Any way you go..YOU'LL have fun..but you just might not be all that comfortable in h inn...

[CDisney]

jasper577,

Your wife's reasons for wanting to stay at HIFS are the same as the ones that made me choose this hotel.

1. I wanted the free hot breakfast/free kids meals - Unfortunately the food was hot only one of the six mornings we ate there for breakfast and the eggs were pretty yucky. We were only at the resort for one lunch to take advantage of the kids eat free program. We were at the parks having fun the rest of the time. Even with the kids eating free, the evening buffet was expensive and previous reports from the DIS boards said it wasn't very good, so we ate off-site for dinner, either at the parks for convenience or off-site for price, variety, and atmosphere. In other words, I didn't save the money I was expecting by eating at the HIFS.

2. I was also intrigued by all of the extra activities for the kids. Well, after being in the parks all day, my boys wanted some down time to watch television or swim. We played putt putt once, but I couldn't interest them in any of the other activities. It was the parks, the pool or the tv. So, much for picking a place based entirely on what I thought they'd like.:rolleyes:

We've taken our boys to Disney five times in their short lives. We've stayed on-site twice, rented a home twice, and stayed once at HIFS. We've learned that our enjoyment is directly related to the amount of space we have to spread out in. The more space, the more we seem to relax. Also, since I'm the one that does the laundry - the washer and dryer is very important to me. No matter how much I pack, I still have to wash. It's nice to be able to put a load of clothes in the washer overnight.

You'll still have fun, because you're with family. But, I think you'd be more comfortable in Vistana Villages.

[sandyneck]

well, if those two last posts don't convince your wife nothing will!!

[jdm]

I noticed in your above post that you said your wife wanted the indoor halls, and to be within walking distance to different things. If you mean in the area around the hotel, there is nothing within walking distance (that I remember?). Also, there is no indoor halls as far as I know. We were there 2 years ago when it first opened. It's elevators and outdoor walkways and stairways. (Similiar to condo villages). There is some fast food choices (Pizza Hut, I think and A&W) and then their buffet style restaurant. I truly wish you luck in changing her mind... we really did not care for the accomodations in this hotel and it made for a looooong week.
Jenn

[jasper577]

There is nothing better than having the opportunity on these boards to plan, discuss, and help others with their vacation plans. In fact, when I was younger, I though I wanted to be a travel agent (I ended up being an environmental consultant - go figure). I even had a part time job in college working for People Express Airlines (remember them?).

Well anyway, I have been trying to tell her that the food reviews for HIFS are almost all on the fair to poor end of the spectrum, and the pool looks nicer at VV. Also, I will go out and get her anything she wants to eat from nearby restaurants whenever she wants it. I remember returning to Wilderness Lodge in December 2000 (our first and only prior trip to WDW) and carrying sleeping kids back into the smallish room after a day in the parks. It would have been nice then to have a 2BR villa with a jacuzzi, CD player, etc., etc.

Maybe if I vow to cook b-fast in the room each morning at VV that would help. I can make b-fast in the "large" kitchen and set out a private breakfast buffet on the "large" dining table in the "large" villa and she can eat it on the balcony looking over the beautiful grounds at VV with her decaff tea.

Sandyneck, thanks for your other post in another thread about Vistana Resorts, though I have heard a few negative posts about the older rooms there.

If anyone can describe exactly what food (and groceries) are available at VV, and how close (and what type) are the nearest restaurants that might help. Do they sell any hot breakfast items at VV? Is there a game room?

I might have to keep this post going, with your help, for a little while longer.

Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jasper577]

One thing I forgot to say was that she thinks the atmosphere at VV will be boring compared to HIFS. Is that really so? Aside from the obvious difference in accomodations putting VV way on the plus side, how would you compare the other amenities, keeping both kids and adults in mind.

I know our plans are to be at the parks at rope drop every morning so we won't really be spending more than perhaps one afternoon and a few early evenings back at whichever place we stay at. That's why I think the nicer rooms are a no brainer.

[KATY BRYAN]

WE HAVE JUST RETURNED FROM FLORIDA(DECEMEBER 8TH THRU THE 18TH). WE CHECKED INTO THE HOLIDAY INN FAMILY SUITES, STAYED ONE NIGHT AND CHECKED OUT. WE HAD THE RAINFOREST THEMED ROOM. THE ROOM WAS PAINTED A VERY DARK COLOR, AND WAS NOT AT ALL WHAT WE HAD EXPECTED. THE CHEAP CURTAIN THAT SERVED AS THE DOOR TO THE KIDS ROOM WAS FILTHY, AND THE HOOKS WERE OFF ALL BUT THREE RINGS. THE PICTURES WERE VERY MISLEADING. WE HAD DINNER THE NIGHT WE CHECKED IN, HOWEVER THE FOOD WAS NOT OF GOOD QUALITY, AND THE SERVICE WAS BAD. THE BINGO WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT IDEA, ALONG WITH THE FACE PAINTING IF THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN LESS 17 TO 19 YEAR OLDS THAT WERE OUT OF CONTROL, PUSHING THE YOUNGER CHILDREN OUT OF LINE, ETC. OUR FIRST DAUGHTER IS 7 YEARS OLD AND ASK TO GO BACK TO THE ROOM. WE ATE THE BREAKFAST IN THE MORNING AND THOUGHT THE FOOD WAS COLD AND TASTELESS, AS WELL AS THE WHOLE DINING ROOM BEING VERY DIRTY. WE TOOK OUR CHILDREN TO THE POOL AND SAW, CRACKERS, COOKIES AS WELL AS A SODA CAN FLOATING, YES FLOATING, IN THE WATER. I SAID SOMETHING TO A MAN AT THE RAFT RENTAL STAND AND HE SAID THAT THEY CLEAN THE POOL AT NIGHT, BECAUSE IT IS TO HARD TO KEEP UP WITH THE MESS THE KIDS MAKE ALL DAY. MY HUSBAND, WHO IS NOT VERY HARD TO PLEASE, AND I WILL NEVER STAY AT THE OVERRATED HOTEL AGAIN. IN OUR OPINION, IT IS NOTHING BUT A CHEAP, NEGLECTED MOTEL, WITH A FANCY HOTEL LOBBY.

[jasper577]

Katy, first of all, sorry about your bad experience at HIFS. We all put a lot of hard-earned money and energy into planning a great time for our families and obviously some hotels don't seem to realize that. On the other hand, posts like this can only help my cause.

I already have the feeling that the pictures of HIFS are misleading and have been told on these boards that the beautiful pictures of VV are the real deal. By the way Katy, after you checked out of HIFS, where did you go?

[sandyneck]

OK Jasper, here is more info since you asked. You can get hot items for breakfast at the deli at VV, nothing fancy, bagels, pastries, and I think they did have cereal and hot breakfast sandwiches. There is a game room but it is very small and not really worth mentioning. During the day, there are lots of activities listed for kids and families. We were never there for any of them but I heard people who were had fun. I am getting scared for you hearing these other posts about HIFS. As far as going out for food, VV is on the quiet end of International Drive, if you take IDrive up a ways there are all the restaurants you could want. I can't imagine staying at the HIFS after the posts I have seen here. Are you letting her see the posts? Also, you are correct about the Vistana Resorts older rooms. Keep us posted!! On another note, how long do you think your 5 year old will stay up anyway? Ours were zonked out by 8pm and they are known to be quite the night owls at home.

[tsapen]

Like I had posted earlier---we loved the activities department at VV! They had just the right amount of things that you could take or leave! Having four children, 2 liked to participate, the other two were busy swimming under the fountains of pool. One of my daughters actually won an inexpensive radio playing bingo at VV--she was thrilled! Also, parking at VV was a piece of cake---plenty of parking--right outside of our villa. We hardly had any distance whatsoever to carry our stuff---plus carrying the sleeping children was a lot easier! The children loved the "bacuzzi" (instead of jacuzzi) for their baths---and we enjoyed it after they were fast asleep! Speaking of the hotel lobby---VV has a gorgeous lobby! Also, they have a girl stationed with maps, tickets, info---anything you need---in the corner of the lobby. Very convienent! We went grocery shopping at a little plaza approx. 1 1/2 miles from VV---very easy to get to--and we were there over July 4th----and traffic and crowds were minimal at VV. We had the best time, and cannot wait to go back again! Also, our dishwasher was making a funny noise---the very professional "mr. fix-it" from VV was there and had it working correctly in less than 1/2 hour from reporting it. The grounds of VV are beautiful as well---we have the best pictures in front of the waterfalls and fountains. In fact, we viewed the space shuttle launch from the one bridge---it was kind of far away---but still visible and unforgetable! Sorry long---but we spent 10 days at VV without any complaints!

[jasper577]

You did it!!!!!!

She just read all of your detailed posts on this topic and finally said to go with VV. What won her over? Well first of all, having a good ten minutes of provacative reading material on the topic was a nice start. I mean where would you ever find a travel book that would have the kind of information you all provided? Second, after reading some of the "cleanliness" reports about HIFS, or lack of cleanliness, she got a little germophobic. And finally, the kicker was that I said I would prepare breakfast in the room at VV for her and the kids. That part of the deal I'll have to live up to.

So, now that we have seen the light, all I need to do is call hotelkingdom.com tomorrow a.m. and cancel my ressie with HIFS.

Of course now I have a different question . . . .

What is the best type of view to request at VV, realizing that it's just a request and that our family is a bunch of nature lovers. When we stayed at Wilderness Lodge, we requested a pond view where the otters were reported, but were given a courtyard view. We did switch to the pond view later in our stay and the last morning we saw the OTTERS!!!

So is there a nice lake view at VV? Is the pool view nicer? Is the only waterfall right by the pool or are there others? Are there bad views? Love to hear your experiences with the views and thanks for all your help. Gary

[CDisney]

Congratulations!

Be sure to do a trip report when you get back! Also, when shopping for your breakfast items, make sure you skip the Goodings Market at the Crossroads. It's highway robbery there!

[Gillian]

Cool! You've also all convinced me to try VV. Now I just have to convince my family that it's time for another Disney trip, LOL! I think the units are too big for a solo trip.

[sandyneck]

YAHOO!!! Congratulations!! Ok now on to other things, there are no bad views at the VV and they are all water views. We were in Building #5 overlooking a pond. The ducks had just had babies and they were right outside our room so that was kind of neat. The way the resort is set up you see the pool from every building it is just how close you are to it. We were at the far end of the buildings and it was nice not to be too close to the pool. Buildings 7 and 8 would be the closest to the waterfalls. I love the sound of running water, but I have talked to people who did not and they were not pleased with those buildings. Buildings 2 and 3 are right by the pool and playground and really in the middle of the action. They may have addded more buildings since I have gone. Make sure you let us know about your stay, we are going back in March and staying there again. We requested a top floor room and they did accomodate us but we had to wait until about 3pm to check in,but that is only because we were also trying to get a room next to my sister, we did not mind. There are elavators and the parking is right outside each building which is nice. I am so excited for you. Your wife will love it. Just an idea for your breakfast, I just made pancakes from the bottle where you just add water and pour out the batter. They were very good and very easy with minimal cleanup.
Don't worry, there is a dishwasher and if you forget to start it the maid does it for you. Our maid even made fancy designs with the paper towels. Don't forget to bring a small thing of laundry detergent if you plan on washing clothes. When are you going again?

[jasper577]

Sandy, you helped out soooooooooooo much. I made the reservation this morning for late April. For now, I requested a view across the lake from the pool, and near one of the bridges that crosses the lake. I guess something close to the view you see in the small picture on the hotelkingdom.com web site with the bridge in it.

By the way, to see a color aerial photo of VV, try this:

1. start at www.mapquest.com
2. type in the street address for VV (12401 International Drive, Orlando, FL)
3. it will actually plot the star on the wrong side of the road but that's ok
4. click on "big map" toward the upper right of the screen
5. then click on the aerial photograph tab near the top
6. you'll see VV, including the ponds and lake
7. you can click on the photo to center VV on your screen
8. then you can zoom in a little bit more by clicking on the zoom buttons

After you look at the aerial photo, maybe you can describe exactly which building you were in. I see that the parking is on one side of the buildings and the pool/lakes are on the other. Do all the villas have a view of the pool/lakes, or do half have a parking lot view.

Oh, I will definately post a trip report with details of our stay at VV. Maybe we will plan a side trip to visit the lobby at HIFS (smirk).

Happy New Year!!!!

[hercamore]

For all of you interested in the Vistana and Vistana Villages resorts,

you may want to know they offer the entertainment card discount of half off the rack rate. This may or maynot be less than the rate offered at hotelkingdom or other travel sites. It just depends on the time of year, I guess. Something to think about if you have the card. Call the hotel direct for rates.

Hercamore

[jtryan]

Congratulations Jasper!!

Your wife will love the VV as much as we all did. Just for a little more incentive, you might want to search the Trip Reports Board for a post by "Melynny" who gave a beautiful description of the Vistana Village units. I think your wife will be even more excited. Happy New Year to you also!

roxanne

[sandyneck]

Jasper, I am glad I helped out. The people on this board are so great and have helped me out many times I am glad I could do the same for someone else. That aerial map is very cool. We stayed in the bottom left building farthest from the pool. Looks like you will want building 7 or 8. The top three buildings on the right hand side were under contruction when we were there. The top one looks too close to the road for my liking. We will actually be going before you so I will let you know which building looks the best for your preferences. There are no parking lot views. They are all water. The side of the building that faces the parking lot are the exterior halls to get to your room and also where the stairs and elevators are located. Anymore questions feel free to ask. By the way, if you are staying 7 nights or more make sure you ask hotelkingdom for the 7th night free. They did not give it to me when I booked over the internet so I had to call them and they gave it to me right away.

[Lisa P.]

Coming in late to this thread but wanted to add something. When you save money by staying at a beautiful timeshare resort like VV, you're able to afford an extra character meal and/or nice upgrade(s) in the quality of the restaurant meals and/or a lot of convenience foods for your kitchen. Get some scrumptious bakery items, yummy snacks and special coffees/teas/beverages/mixers, ice cream for making blender shakes or a box of mickey dove bars. Have the kids' favorites handy too - microwavable mini-pizzas or mac-n-cheese.

Take advantage of the full size kitchen appliances, including refrigerator-freezer w/icemaker, dishwasher & microwave. Freeze juice boxes and/or water bottles. The jacuzzi is terrific and you'll have a balcony or patio besides the spacious living room for relaxing in the evenings. You will probably be surprised at how nice the place (2nd bath and quality furnishings) makes your vacation. You won't regret this choice a bit! Enjoy! :)

[jasper577]

Lisa, thanks for all the good ideas. They will definately come in handy. I have absolutely no doubt (and neither does my wife now) that VV will be beautiful. Since we are driving from New Jersey and will have a cooler of food/drinks for the trip down, it will be nice to have a full-size refrigerator/freezer when we get there.

Sandy, aren't the aerial photos neat. I was using them to look at WDW, it's easy to pick out Epcot, MGM and the other parks. I was also able to see where VV is in relation to HIFS. You said you were in the VV building at the bottom left of the photo, do you recall what the building number was? Do the building numbers increase as you go counter clockwise around the lake? After your trip in March, I would love to hear about your stay at VV and any helpful hints you might have such as driving shortcuts to WDW, best grocery store, good restaurants nearby, etc. And I will definately post my trip report when I get back in early May. Oh, by the way, we did get the seventh night free when I called hotelkingdom.com today, though I won't get my email confirmation until tomorrow. The 2BR villa is $129.90 for the first 4 nights, $109.90 for the next two nights, and the seventh night free. When I called VV directly, I was quoted $204 for each night (no free night) and they did not have an entertainment card rate. The people I spoke with on the phone at hotelkingdom.com and VV were all very nice.

Everyone in this thread was very informative and made my weekend enjoyable. Thanks.

[sandyneck]

Jasper, the building we stayed in is #5, as you go around the lake and start up the right side that is #6,7, etc. When we checked in they gave us great directions to get in the back way to MK. It was much less congested and only took us about 5-10 minutes to get to the TTC. You got a great rate, mine was a little higher since we were going in March but still excellent. I'll be praying for you as you drive from NJ. That is a long way, but the anticipation will make the hours fly by. Talk to you later.

[sandyneck]

Jasper, I hope you are still following this thread, I just checked my resv. from last year and we were in Building 3 not 5. Just wanted to let you know. I wanted to be in Building 5 but could not get it because of the fact I was trying to get near my sister. Didn't want to mix you up.Sorry.

[jasper577]

Happy New Year! Sandy, actually Building #3 makes a lot more sense looking at the photo, and thanks for the clarification. I'll just be happy being there but I think it might be nice to be just across the bridge from the pool area. The bridges look nice in the few photographs I have seen.

I was told they are busy building mini-golf and other amenities there, but the VV person I spoke with said they have not been told when any of the new "stuff" will be open.

Now that the VV thing is settled with my wife, I feel the need to start another fun thread. Hmmmmmmmmmm . . . . . .what should it be?

[Lucky'sMom]

Just thought I'd let you all know what an amazing deal I've gotten at VV. Our travel dates are Jan. 22-31, and I booked in early Nov. when the rate for the 2 bedrm villa was only $79.90./night. After reading your posts about the 7th night free deal, I decided to call Hotel Kingdom and ask about it (not really thinking I'd be able to get it, since the rate has gone up to $104 since I booked). Well...they gave it to me! Can you believe I am paying only $79.90 for 6 nights, getting the 7th night FREE, then paying $79.90 again for the 8th and 9th night? Wow, we are so excited as we have 3 children ages 5, 3 and 1 and just can't imagine being in one hotel room with our crew. By the way, on our last trip in Feb, 2000, we stayed at HIFS (with 2 kids) and liked it very much. But, I think comparing HIFS to VV is comparing apples and oranges. HIFS is a nice hotel, but I think VV will be luxurious! I'll be sure and post a review when we return. Thanks to all of you have provided so much MONEY SAVING advice to all of us board "lurkers"! I hope to return the favor upon my return from VV and WDW.:)

[Lorix2]

Sorry for joining in so late, but I just came across this thread the other day....

I want to thank Jasper577 for starting this terrific thread and everyone who replied making it a very easy decision to switch our location from HIFS to the Vistana Villages for our first trip ever to Disney with our kids DD9 and DS4 - this place is ideal. I got the $129.90 p/night w/the 7th night free as well thru hotelkingdom.com. We will be there April 19-28 and we too Jasper577 will be driving down (from NH). Have a wonderful vacation and safe journey, glad you were able to convince DW to go for it!

Lori

[jasper577]

Thanks Lorix. Not only was the thread very helpful for me too, but it was so much fun I didn't want it to end, so thanks for reviving it for a day. Maybe we'll see ya' there the night of the 27th when we will both be there. I have a DD10 and a DD5. Can't wait. By the way, I've been researching the area and there is the Premium Outlets just down the road with 110 outlet stores and a food court (they have a web site). Also, there is a brochure available of all the shopping, dining, attractions, and lodging on International Drive and it shows the trolley stops. I think it was called the I-Ride or something like that. We're spending the 28th at Sea World (we went last December too) and it will be so nice to hop in the car after a long drive the day before and be at Sea World literally in 3 minutes. P.S. We'ree buying a TV/VCR for the car trip down. You might want to consider one too if you don't already have one. Friends of ours taped regular tv shows and then used them for the car trip down. Sounds like a good idea.

[Lorix2]

Hi Jasper577 - that would be nice!

I keep telling anyone who will listen to me what a great place we'll be staying at!

I can't wait to go to the outlets too!

Yes! The tv/vcr combo is a necessity! Did you buy one already? Best kind? Where to buy?? I was looking at an Audiovox at Circuit City for $279....any deals out there? What have you found?

I've also been looking for the kids favorite movies or books on tape for the ride down to keep them occupied too. So far I bought Toy Story 2 for my youngest and need to get some more.

Thanks for your help!

[jasper577]

I have a rain check for Target for a 9" Funai tv/vcr for $159.99 (reg. 189.99) with the car adaptor included. So if 9" is big enough, that' seems like a good price. Except that it's been almost two months and they haven't had it in yet. I know Target has others for less than the one you were looking at and they might even be 13". Try taping tv shows instead of just bringing movies. If your kids are like mine at all, sometimes they just aren't in the mood for a movie they've seen dozens of times before. By the way, since your kids must like Toy Story, they will love the Buzz Lightyear ride at MK, it's fantastic.

[Lorix2]

ooh Target! Never thought of looking there - thank you! Yes, I'm very excited for the Buzz ride for him, he really isn't sure about Disney, he just knows it's a big place to have alot of fun at. Hope you'll get to use your raincheck soon!

Excellent idea about taping shows, I just might do that.....

Now, who else can we convert to the V.V.? :D

[sandyneck]

Hi guys! I feel the same way about this thread, it was really fun! Jasper, if you go to Seaworld try and do it early in your stay because if you pay for one day you get a free day within a 7 day period. You will be so close you may want to pop over for a few hours one day.
We have never driven to Florida from Cape Cod, but we have gone to the midwest and the tv/vcr is a life/sanity saver with the kids. They love it and it keeps them occupied. 64 more days till we leave! Look for my trip report when we get back! BYE

[jasper577]

Well, all I want to say is that I hope everyone who decides to stick with HIFS has a great time and I'm sure they will. I'm just more into the idea of a two-bedroom villa and the lake and the landscaping and all that. Let's compare trip reports when we get back too. I'm looking forward to sandyneck's trip report since she will be going back to VV in March and will probably have some hot tips for us. She was a big help on this thread.

[jasper577]

Sandyneck, I actually posted my reply before I saw yours!!!!!! Didn't know you were lurking on the boards tonight. I'm hoping to get some good restaurant tips from you. I'm sure I'll be running over to the outlets to get some Auntie Anne's pretzels (and they say Disney's food/drink prices are inflated?).

[Lorix2]

I'm sure people will enjoy their stay at HIFS, I have 2 friends and their families that came back and raved about it and would still recommend it.

I've very eager to read sandyneck's trip report as well and agree she's been a tremendous help with this thread. Have a wonderful time sandyneck!

This is so much fun!

[sandyneck]

There are so many restaurants along Idrive you'll have a time just deciding where to eat every night. And don't forget FAO Swartz toy store. I don't think we have any of them in New England, it is a kids dream. There is a fun place to eat in the same complex as the toy store. I don't remember the exact name of it but you can't miss it, there is a big smiling crab on the roof. The kids like it and it is very family oriented, ie. someone else's kids will be louder than yours! Have you tried IBidUSA.com? It is an auctions site but it is the actual businesses that are auctioning of their goods. There is a restaurant section and they have a couple restaurants on Idrive. I have bid on a few which I haven't won, but, if you don't win, the restaraunt will usually email you a printable coupon. I have one for 15% off the entire bill and another for a free appetizer. Not too bad. Also, I don't know if you have read about Bahama Breeze on the boards, but everyone seems to love it and it is only a few minutes away from VV. The menu is a little to adventurous for us, but most people are wild about it. Maybe I will be daring and try it out. I will let you know.

[Robinrs]

Wow, what an incredible thread this has become!

I have to admit, I didn't jump in at first because I'd only stayed at HIFS but VV has always been on my "gotta try" list. Thanks to this I'm seriously considering it for my May trip. My son wants a vacation home but I'd like the daily housekeeping!

As for the DRIVE, my sister got my son the Audiovox VCP in a Bag for our trip. It is made for travel and it is awesome. He put on his earphones and I swear, I thought I'd left him somewhere for 7 hours! We also travel to visit my parents every two weeks so this item will get LOTS of use.

Also, this player can be used in the hotel room for times when he wanted to watch something I didn't care to watch... which is MOST of the time! :D

Thanks for all the info, everyone. What a great group of people we have here!

[Lorix2]

Sandyneck - How much better can this thread possible get I ask you? There's an FAO Schwartz nearby????? Woo-HOO! If I could do a backflip without looking ridiculous and hurting myself, I would insert it right here! I've always wanted to go to NY's location. I believe Boston has one?? My kids will be psyched! and we'll be broke! Thanks again for all your input and keep the great info coming!

Robinrs - awww..group hug everyone! That's the unit I was looking at,, glad to hear it worked well for you, I had to laugh a little about wondering if you had left your son somewhere..don't you just love when they are happy and quiet? then everyone is happy! I always enjoyed reading your replies/posts about the HIFS, honest and encouraging.

[jasper577]

Sandyneck, that's good advice and last December we did take advantage of the free return trip within 7 days to Sea World (as you know you do have to pay for parking both visits). I still have the cool photo passes for the free day that they gave back to us in my wallet. Each of ours has a different Sea World picture on it. This time around, we're getting the Sea World/Busch Gardens Tampa combo ticket. BGT seems like it will be a lot of fun, except for the hour and change drive, but no big deal. The other days we'll tour WDW with a four-day hopper, and we plan on some peaceful relaxation at the VV pool. I considered a day at Universal's IOA just to do something else different, but my DW and DD's are not thrill ride seekers and we would probably get more out of a day at the pool or more time back at WDW than we would at IOA ("Can someone convince my wife to go on rides at IOA?" (just kidding). I haven't ruled out a WDW water park and mini golf either, they both sound like fun. By the way, has anyone heard of or been to "Amazing Exotics?" (amazingexotics.com) Their web site doen't reveal much but apparently you can have up close and personal encounters with monkeys, big cats, and more. SOme sort of wildlife refuge and educational center. Please let me know if you have tried it. One last thing sandyneck . . . . . . . Don't let anyone catch you carving out those Hidden Mickey's at VV for me and Lorix to find.

[msr709]

Could someone post a link to Vistana Village PLEASE! ???

[msr709]

Could someone please post a link to Vistana Village????

[Robinrs]

Try this: http://ww2.starwoodvo.com/overview.jsp?resortID=1

[Belle5]

When we were at V V in September they only had down pillows on our beds. DH is very allergic and had to sleep on rolled up blankets as they offered no alternative. This will only bother a few of you, but I thought you might want to go prepared with your own pillows.

[bigs1923t]

We have ressies at VV for in March. So far they have been very nise to deal with. I bought a VCR TV combo for the little ones to put in our van. Got it at Best Buy, think it is about an 11" screen. It was the biggest I could find anywhere that was AC/DC It works great. I have a woodshop the likes of Tim the toolman taylor so I built an oak cabinet that holds the Tv & Nintendo (you have to use Super Nintendo its the only one that works on DC power and I had to get an adapter/voltage dropper at Radio Shack). The cabinet also has space for all the games & videos. I also bought an antenna that mounts on the outside whick works well near cities. Another neat thing I did was built a console type box that fits between the front seats that a cooler fits in. I built it with 2" extra room on all sides of the cooler and lined it with the rigid styrofoam insulation sheets you can buy at Home Depot. It will keep ice in a cooler for 2 days in Fla temps.
We stayed at HIFS for a couple days last xmas. We had been at FW in a wilderness cabin from 12/15 to 12/27 and wanted to stay a couple extra days. Disney had the cabin available but because we were in peak season now they wanted $399 a night & I couldnt see paying that. HIFS was nice but it was also relatively new. I could see things that were not being kept up to standard & told DW I didnt think the place was going to "look this good" in a couple years. The breakfast buffet was ok but not great. Also the parking when returning at night was usually pretty full and it was quite a walk to our room.
This time I decided to stay off site which will be an adjustment after years of FW but the rate is so much better than WDW resorts and with the money I saved it will only cost a little more to buy annual passes to WDW instead of getting beat up with the length of stay passes that always seem to beat you out of your first day there and you day of departure because you are just too busy to get to the parks.
Oh well your ear must hurt by now but Disney talk will do that to ya !
see ya'll later

[Vinnie The Pooh]

We have been researching the Vistana villages and the Vistana Resorts and are definately leaning toward the Resorts and I think your wife would like the resorts better as well. The Vistana Resorts (not the village) is very close to WDW near LBV and is set up (IMHO) just like a WDW Resort with seperate sections and pools in each section. There are also many restaurants at the resort and really nothing but a deli at the village. The village is newer and therefor I think the accomadations may be a tad less worn but other than that I think the Vistana Resort would have more to offer you wife and your kids. They are currently advertised at hotel Kingdom for 119 per night

Starwood Sheraton Vistana Resorts at a glance (http://www.starwoodvo.com/overview.jsp?resortID=5)

[baileybrad]

You are right that VR is closer to onsite than VV. It is also a huge resort much bigger than anything that Disney currently has. It is spread over probably a a few square miles. You never know as a cash renter what "section" that you will be placed in. Though these are well maintained timeshares, there is a big difference in the age of some of the condos. You gain no more than probably 2 minutes of commute time from VR, compared to VV. By the time that you wind your way out of the VR it could take a couple minutes, then you usually catch the light. At VV you pop right out onto S.International Drive. VV was $109 a night last time I checked with the seventh night free. The only thing that that VR has on VV is if I remember is a pool slide at one of its main pools. I tend to ride a resort while it is new. If one could be guaranteed a "new" condo at VR then I would consider it, but remember there is no guranted to a cash renter and it is more expensive. Just some food for thought.

Sorry for the person who had "pillow" allergy problems. We found the bedding to be about as comfortable as any we had ever experienced at a hotel/resort, there was no first night adjustment. I use a foam pillow but slept great on what was provided. The throw pillows that are provided on the King bed could be used if one were allergic to "down".

[BGill]

Hi Jasper, Just wanted to let you and your wife know that we just got back from the Vistana Villages and loved it. It was the best place we ever stayed. There was plenty of space for the six of us. The pool was great. The kids loved it. Barbara

[clm3]

I have ressies at ASMO right now for 2 rooms. After seeing this thread
and HotelKingdom offering such a great rate for 2bdrm villa I'm thinking of
moving. How bad is the drive and parking at the parks ??? I don't want
to have to walk forever from the parking lot. My last visit was on property
so this will be a new experience.

Please convince me this is better ... I really want to stay at
VV, its almost half price :)

Thanks,
Cheryl

[Tense]

Hi... you'll be 5 minutes from Seaworld and Universal Studio by car ,and about 10-15 to Magic Kingdom. My daughter just came back from the Vistana Villages, and said it was great. As far as the parking is concerned, you'll be better off with VV too, since self park at Disney can be a hike...depending on the hotel! Here you park right outside you building. I've stayed on property for many years, UNTIL we stayed at the Vistana. Let me tell you, there is no comparing the rooms to Disney. We have 2 children, b13, and g8. One hotel room for all of us is not a do-able thing anymore. My kids WILL NOT share a bed, and 2 Disney rooms are out of the question. Here, with a 2 bedroom at 129.00 a night Mom and Dad have their own bedroom!What a concept!) the kids can share a room( there are 2 double beds in the second bedroom) or Ds can have the fold out couch in the living room. Much more convient in the mornings as well because there are 2 bathrooms. Master bath has a two person shower, and a Jacuzzi (nice touch after the parks). In the mornings while the crew gets ready, you'll be able to sit at the dining room table(not the edge of the bed or a desk chair) read the paper and have breakfast because you have a fully equipped kitchen. Even if you say...I'm not cooking, it's nice to have a full size fridge, and a toaster for toast in the mornings! Can I say anymore?!!! Any questions you have I'll be glad to answer! Hope this helps.

[Nagle]

Interesting reading folks. For those that stayed at Vistana Villages, who did you book through? Are you all timeshare owners, or cash renters. We would probably be interested in staying there, and are curious as to how to go about booking there.

Thanks
Nagle

[Tense]

Nagle...
Book through Hotelkingdom.com...they by far have the best prices.

[baileybrad]

We used Hotelkingdom and it works just like the process that is described on their website. Painless. I actually talked to a representative over the phone using their 1-800 number. The reservation system folks are much superior to the Disney operation. My brother uses HK all the time for stays in Miami and in the Orlando area. This resort will not disappoint many people, it is quite lovely.

[Katies Dad]

Hi, really glad I found this thread, we are going to Vistana Village in 5 weeks, can`t wait and after reading all the excellent things you have all said it sounds better than I thought it would be.

Could you please advise me as to which `block` would be good for us - we want a pool view (our DD is 6 and loves water and swimming) so one nice and central would be brilliant.

Did anyone try the free scheduled transport they advertise in the brochure (we are from UK and have booked with Virgin) does it run often or would we be better taking the car.

Do the pools tend to get busy (August)? and would it be Ok for my DD to take her inflatables to pay with in the pool.

And finally we will be taking detergent for the washing machine, will we also need to pack dishwasher tablets?

I am grateful for any help and info you can give me.

Thanks Phil

[Lorix2]

I was told by Hotelkingdom that they no longer offer Vistana Villages on their website, something about them being too expensive and cannot offer it at wholesale anymore.

Katie's Dad - you will not need dishwasher tablets, the powder detergent in individual packets are provided.

You will need to buy your own laundry detergent though.

I cannot help you with transportation, but can tell you that you and your family will be extremely happy here.

You may take your own inflatables to the pool.

I believe buildings 1-4 are around the pool, but mostly reserved for owners, but I'm sure you can at least request one of them.

Have a great vacation :D

[Belle5]

Unless things have changed since our visit there the "free" shuttle to the theme parks isn't free in the sense that Disney property busses are "free". We felt VERY compelled to tip our shuttle driver. There is a huge tip jar by the driver and with tipping $1 per person each way (there and back --seemed like that's what most folks were doing) for our family of 7 we were tipping $14 dollars per day round trip. Sure wouldn't have wanted to try coming back for naps!!!!

[cymru]

Hi, i have stayed in both places. HIFS is a great resort but Vistana Villages is a tremendous place to stay. The Villas are huge and beautiful inside and definitely more complete than HIFS. www.Hotelmartusa.com has a special for Vistana. Any booking gets the 5th night free. That is a great deal. We have already booked to go back to Vistana in August.

[Bella the Ball 360]

As you can see from my profile we have stayed at VV for three years and would have gone back again if the rates had been what we had experienced in the past. How did you get 99 per night? When are you going? We checked and checked it it was up over 150 for August and I was not going to pay that.
I do not know about the Holiday INN. I have never stayed there but I do know that the Holiday Inns I have stayed in left a lot to be desired. I am not saying that this one is not nice but I REALLY cannot see how it could even come close to VV. Three tv's three pools, water fall, beautiful decor, maid service, huge two bedroom, two bathroom suites. ALL the amenities of home but much more coordinated.

I am not really doing it justice. All I can say is that I stayed three years in a row and the first year when we walked in we just stood with our mouths open. We had stayed on site at Disney, and in a private home that was rented from a friend. I STILL say this was by far the best. I am jealous. I am only hoping you got the rate for a time other than summer. I cannot believe you got it that inexpensively.
Here is a thought, spend half the vacation at HI and half at VV and then decide if you return where you will stay. Keep in mind you may not get VV for that rate again.

[momof2inPA]

Bella,

This is an old thread, 2/2002. I couldn't find any good V V rates for October, either, so we are staying at the Wyndham Palms.