DVC stay away!!!!

[contemp_mj]

Is there anyone out there that thinks that a DVC building near the Contemporary Resort is a bad idea?

I love driving to the CR and seeing the beautiful scenery and awe of the great resort, I would hate to see a money driven project such as a DVC building offsetting the futuristic style of the CR.

Does this mean if they build a DVC near the CR that there will be more people crowding onto the monorail, Outer-Rim and California Grill?

I really don’t understand why there are people for the DVC activity around the CR.??

Sorry, I am new.

MJ

[cobbler]

popcorn::

[nbodyhome]

I love the popcorn icon!

I was NOT looking forward to the WLV when they went in. I think Disney did a good job with them. I hope they do the same with the Contemporary.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

At 1st I was not sure what to think of the DVC coming to the Contemporary. However after thinking about it I have come to realize that it will happen and I am ok with it. Eventhough WDW has not officially announced it all the sings are there that it will happen sometime in the future. I mean why else would the North Garden Wing be torn down and not renovate it like the South Garden Wing? Also I was told by several high ranking Cast Members at the Contemporary that it's going to happen. Finally considering how busy the Contemporary already is with guests just going there for Chef Mickey's, Concourse Steakhouse & the California Grill to me the DVC building will make no difference with the amount of people that stay there and ones that just go there to eat, so it will not ruin any future stays my family & I will have at the Contemporary.

[snyderla]

Have you ever been to one of the DVC resorts? They really are beautiful! I don't think it would detract from the CR, WDW is great at theming. If you haven't, you should go check some of the DVC resorts out! It might change your mind or ease your concerns.

[contemp_mj]

CR FOR LIFE,

If it happens, I'll buy you a Molson at the Outer Rim!

Man I hate to ruin a good thing; it’s good and perfect now, why disrupt that!?

MJ

[vbarry]

popcorn::

I am with you on the popcorn! This could get quite interesting!!

[minnie61650]

I would love to see a DVC come to the CR.

I am not a DVC member but if they build a DVC on the monorail I will definately buy.

I have been waiting 15 years for a monorail DVC.

One of the reasons I am so excited is that I now have limited mobility and I need a room with a roll in shower.

The CR has very few rooms with roll in showers in the tower.

I think only 2 with a MK view and one of them is in the Club Level.

They don't have enough rooms to be compliant with the ADA.

I guess they fall under the grandfather clause.
That is one reason I will not book a tower room at the MK.

I was able to stay in a MK tower rooms years ago before my disability and because I loved that view so much and HA tower rooms with roll in showers are so few I want others to be able to enjoy that view and I do not want to take up a room others really want.


If a DVC is built at the CR they will be complaint with the ADA and there will be more rooms with roll in showers and I will once again book a room with a MK view!

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

CR FOR LIFE,

If it happens, I'll buy you a Molson at the Outer Rim!

Man I hate to ruin a good thing; it’s good and perfect now, why disrupt that!?

MJ Do they even have Molson at the Outer Rim? Seriously though the way I see it is the DVC will not ruin the Contemporary, I think it will only make it better.

[logan115]

Do they even have Molson at the Outer Rim? Seriously though the way I see it is the DVC will not ruin the Contemporary, I think it will only make it better.

The most disappointing thing about my last trip to WDW was the beer. We went during Oktoberfest 2001, headed to the Germany section of Epcot and I was geared up to try some authentic German brews -- got there and the only thing they had was Becks or Heiney (can't remember which one) which I can get at any 7-Eleven back home.

Anyone know if there's a more diverse selection of brew available these days ?

[contemp_mj]

I may have to bring my own Molson, you might be right.

The thing that makes me wonder is, there is so much monorail track and property to build a DVC in another spot, even near MK.

On a side note, I told the Walt Disney executives to take down one of the garden buildings to build my mansion!

I the long scheme of things, I guess I shouldn’t worry, it’s not like I can stop it.popcorn::

MJ

[BCV23]

MJ, welcome to the DIS!:surfweb:

Are you aware that the North wing is currently being torn down?

We never stayed there but always thought the rooms in that wing closest to Bay Lake would be wonderfully peaceful. We could never tear ourselves away from the Polynesian though.

Now we are very happy BCV members.:love:

[contemp_mj]

Yeah I guess if you’re a beer connoisseur the Germany beer booth is lame. However, Germany is my favorite spot! Buddy, I’m going to have a Beck’s Dark because of you!

How about that clock in Germany!

MJ

[logan115]

Yeah I guess if you’re a beer connoisseur the Germany beer booth is lame. However, Germany is my favorite spot! Buddy, I’m going to have a Beck’s Dark because of you!

How about that clock in Germany!

MJ

By no means am I a connoisseur/beer snob -- give me a Bud and I'm a happy camper, just felt that it wasn't as "magical" drinking a Beck's when I had visions of trying something a little less mass produced.

That's enough -- think I need to get professional help if I'm not satisfied with the thought of drinking a Beck's strolling thru Epcot in a few weeks:scared1:

[La2kw]

DVC will only make this underappreciated resort even better. With the DVC $$ will come general improvements at the resort. I can't wait to buy some CRV points!

[nezy]

CR 4 Life-where did you get that CRVillas log as a DVC resort?

BTW-try the Brewery at the Boardwalk-they have an interesting beer selection. I also liked the Morroccan beer--who knew?:confused3

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

CR 4 Life-where did you get that CRVillas log as a DVC resort? I think someone helped me found it on one of the DVC boards.

[calypso*a*go-go]

IMO, the Contemporary *was* futuristic when orginally built, but now decades later...it needs a little help. I think DVC will give it the shot in the arm it needs (and deserves). Hopefully it will be done in a manner that pleases not only members, but the CR loyalists!

[ukcatfan]

The most disappointing thing about my last trip to WDW was the beer. We went during Oktoberfest 2001, headed to the Germany section of Epcot and I was geared up to try some authentic German brews -- got there and the only thing they had was Becks or Heiney (can't remember which one) which I can get at any 7-Eleven back home.

Anyone know if there's a more diverse selection of brew available these days ?

Given that Heineken is Dutch, it had to be a Becks. Unless something has changed recently, the only place in the Germany pavillion to get a Becks is at the cart out front. They used to sponsor the restaurant, but not anymore. Try the draft beer stand by the glass shop or the fast food restaurant in the back. They have a different selection. They also have Jager!!! :headache: :scared1: I love that stuff!!!

Also, try the Rose & Crown in the GB pavillion. They have a decent selection and a full bar for the liquor drinkers like me. (DW is the beer drinker)

In case anyone is wondering, DW and I are both of German heritage. I even have a tattoo of a classic Mickey in German flag colors on my shoulder.

Ein Prosit, ein Prosit der Gemütlichkeit

Kevin

[logan115]

Thanks Kevin --

That's what I love about Dis -- can get help/info on just about anything you can imagine.

[fla4fun]

I don't mind that they are putting DVC at the Contemporary. But I do not like the design that appears to be the one selected. I feel that the original tower should remain the focus of the resort, and they should have worked on a design that would compliment it instead of compete with it. It should be at least a few floors shorter than the original tower, instead of equal height (or even slightly taller). DVC did such a great job of blending with WL, BC, BW, and even the concept art for AKL villas, that it just feels like they dropped the ball on this one. Maybe since the designs were taken down from the original website, they are still fine tuning it and will come up with a more complimentary design.

[Maine-iac]

From the picture it looks like the new building will drastically change the view from some of the tower rooms.

[n2mm]

I can't wait! I'll be buying points when/if this happens. As for the design, I'll wait and see because Disney is pretty good at making these designs work and always do a great job. I need to start saving now and hope it's at least a year away.

[La2kw]

From the picture it looks like the new building will drastically change the view from some of the tower rooms.

I don't see how- the new tower is off to the side of the original tower. :confused3 Since the tower rooms face roughly east and west and the new tower is to the north, it shouldn't affect the MK rooms at all. The Bay Lake view rooms will see the tower off to the side, but straight ahead will be all Bay Lake view.

[ducklite]

Is there anyone out there that thinks that a DVC building near the Contemporary Resort is a bad idea?

I don't have a problem with it. The original structure that sat in that spot was full of problems that would cost more to remediate than to tear it down and start from scratch and was more than likely going to be torn down regardless. By rebuilding as DVC, the developer has instant cash towards the building costs, as opposed to borrowing the funds and slowly recouping the building costs through room rentals over the next twenty years.

The CR has been having more problems filling rooms than any other WDW deluxe over the past few years. Don't you think maybe there is a reason that was offered to SoG rather than any of the other resorts? It's also the reason that discounts are usually more readily available there than the other deluxe resorts. This will help keep the resort full. A full resort generates more cash for capital improvements and guest amenties.

I love driving to the CR and seeing the beautiful scenery and awe of the great resort, I would hate to see a money driven project such as a DVC building offsetting the futuristic style of the CR.

The plans I see look like they have kept the integrity of the architectural style intact.

Does this mean if they build a DVC near the CR that there will be more people crowding onto the monorail, Outer-Rim and California Grill?

No. The resort capacity should remain approximately the same. They will build an additional pool that all CR guests will be able to access, so if anything they are giving more than they are taking away. While the physical space might be greater, the capacity will remain about the same, as a one or two BR DVC unit takes 150-200% more space than the average one or two resort rooms respectfully. Many DVC members choose to cook and eat in thier villas, so the impact to restaurants is actually lower. If you want to keep numbers down at the Californai Grill, petition WDW to get rid of the dining plan and enforce the dress code at all times.

I really don’t understand why there are people for the DVC activity around the CR.??

Why not? I see it as a win-win situation for everyone. And with the way they are going, I fully expect to see DVC at EVERY deluxe before 2015.

Anne

[spiceycat]

From the picture it looks like the new building will drastically change the view from some of the tower rooms.

no, that was considered - if the wings were build up that would be a problem.

this building will not interfer with any of the tower. to even see this new building (I think) you would need to be on the balcony and looking way over to see it.

the imprint is smaller than the north wing - so it was necessary to build higher.

It will definitely be a better pool. also a couple of whirlpools - since right now there is only one.

I am expecting what they did at BC/bcV - a better area to sit and talk - or to meet others.

there is also the other possiblity - it becomes the tower - but instead of DVC - it becomes MK suites. Depends upon which option is better for WDW. but I would love DVC. they get their money back now not some long time in the future.

either way I think it is clear this building is going up.

[tomandrobin]

I think it would be another nice fit/option to DVC.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

The CR has been having more problems filling rooms than any other WDW deluxe over the past few years. Just curious what proof do you have that the Contemporary has been having trouble filling rooms? Everytime my family and I stay there they are always sold out with guests just there on vacation, plus the guests who stay there for conventions?

[Doctor P]

I think CRV is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard. I also don't think Disney is that dumb about these things. Therefore, I am confident that CRV is unlikely to happen, and if it happens it will be many years off. For those who love the idea, I hope that I am wrong.

[minnie61650]

I think CRV is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard. I also don't think Disney is that dumb about these things. Therefore, I am confident that CRV is unlikely to happen, and if it happens it will be many years off. For those who love the idea, I hope that I am wrong.

Actually I think that the land by the Contemporary where the rumored CRV would be built is probably one of the most valued pieces of property that Disney owns so I too will be amazed but very happy if they sell it as a DVC.

Now that Disney has announced that they are making a deal for a New Four Seasons Timeshare on Disney Property and Value Oriented West Side I think at this time Disney is trying to get other companies to build hotels/motels/timeshares on WDW land.

It makes me even more hopeful that a DVC will be built at the CR.

Here is to hope!:wizard:

[RRB]

I don't mind that they are putting DVC at the Contemporary. But I do not like the design that appears to be the one selected. I feel that the original tower should remain the focus of the resort, and they should have worked on a design that would compliment it instead of compete with it. It should be at least a few floors shorter than the original tower, instead of equal height (or even slightly taller). DVC did such a great job of blending with WL, BC, BW, and even the concept art for AKL villas, that it just feels like they dropped the ball on this one. Maybe since the designs were taken down from the original website, they are still fine tuning it and will come up with a more complimentary design.

My feelings exactly!!! Personally, I am hoping the rendering that we've all been seeing is nothing like what will be built. In all the other DVC resorts, they are 4-5 stories max. I would really like to see a resort that complimented the original tower without overtaking it.

[JTimber]

My feelings exactly!!! Personally, I am hoping the rendering that we've all been seeing is nothing like what will be built. In all the other DVC resorts, they are 4-5 stories max. I would really like to see a resort that complimented the original tower without overtaking it.



I agree the plans need to be scaled down if that drawing I seee in the signature of people posting in this thread is the plan. The footprint there is rather small so they need to be sensitive to that and the views.

Really I'm shocked that CRV wasn't the FIRST DVC Resort during the recent expansion. WDW is about the parks really and I would have thought they would have developed the prime locations first with direct access to the parks. Also I have one word for you:


MONORAIL!!!!!



Jay

[DebbieB]

The monorail is an interesting question. The platform at the Contemporary can get crowded. If they build it to the size in the picture, you will have alot more people trying to get on.

[RRB]

The monorail is an interesting question. The platform at the Contemporary can get crowded. If they build it to the size in the picture, you will have alot more people trying to get on.

I agree in theory but the previous rooms in the north wings had guests too. The big question is how many villas will be built there. Does anyone know how many CR rooms there were in the north wing?

[jarestel]

I would hate to see a money driven project such as a DVC building offsetting the futuristic style of the CR.

Disney associated with money driven projects? Surely you are the jester!

[RRB]

I just looked it up, the Garden wings of the CR have +/- 500 rooms total, that means the North wing has around 250 rooms. As a comparison, the VWL have 136 units and the BCV has 205 units.

[Judique]

IMO, the Contemporary *was* futuristic when orginally built, but now decades later...it needs a little help. I think DVC will give it the shot in the arm it needs (and deserves). Hopefully it will be done in a manner that pleases not only members, but the CR loyalists!

Saved me from writing it. The Contempo needs a LOT of help, imho. Great hotel in it's time, but it's many years since I've wanted to stay there. The villas on the other hand are definitely on my 'buy' list.

[Sammie]

Depends on what they build. Then I will have an opinion. If it looks like the plans we saw early on, then yes I think it ruins the look of the neighborhood. But hey I hated the Swan and Dolphin and still do. Ruined the look of that neighborhood too.

It would seem from the changes being included at AKV of separate check in, more restaurants, nice pool, some distance between the two facilities that DVC learned the hard way you can't cram a DVC in the parking lot of an existing resort and not improve the infrastructure to support it, without causing problems. It is not fair to the DVCers and not fair to nonDVCers.

So I will wait and see.

[write2caro]

I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE CR, and must say that I will be 1st in line to buy CRV points if/when they build it (ok... probably behind a few people on this site! ;)). I have faith in Disney theming when it comes to DVC resorts, but that sketch does make the new tower look pretty huge - the scale seems wrong, but I figure I'll wait and see on that one. I remain optimistic about the whole thing, though! :goodvibes

[tink_about_it]

popcorn::

This made me laugh so hard!!!:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

[drakethib]

It makes little or no difference to me one way or another.

[YoMickey]

popcorn:: popcorn:: popcorn::
Not near as intersting as we thought this would get.

My biggest concnern was the fireworks view from the Fort Wilderness dock.:rolleyes1


But really, I'd have to consider points here. Location. Location. Location.:sail:

[dwelty]

The original Poster has an interesting premise, She thinks that a DVC at the Contemporary will hurt the Contemporary, I feel that it is the other way around. I think a DVC at the Contemporary is a bad thing for DVC. It would be the first DVC property ever that was not theamed (I don't buy the "Futuristic" theme) as the plans look just like a Miami highrise condo.

I think most Contemporary DVC backers really just want a DVC on the monorail. If DVC announced a new beautifully theamed stand alone DVC with monorial access, I bet you would see alot of Contemporary DVC backers jump ship.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

The original Poster has an interesting premise, She thinks that a DVC at the Contemporary will hurt the Contemporary, I feel that it is the other way around. I think a DVC at the Contemporary is a bad thing for DVC. It would be the first DVC property ever that was not theamed (I don't buy the "Futuristic" theme) as the plans look just like a Miami highrise condo.

I think most Contemporary DVC backers really just want a DVC on the monorail. If DVC announced a new beautifully theamed stand alone DVC with monorial access, I bet you would see alot of Contemporary DVC backers jump ship. I was waiting for the right time post this so after what you said I can now do that. You claim the Contemporary is not that much of a theamed Resort, well let me ask you what theme is there at the Yacht & Beach Club? I have visited there a few times and let me tell you I don't see what is so special about it. When you walk in everything is basically down the hallways, where as at the Contemporary the main attraction is the 4th floor concourse level. So while the Yacht & Beach Club may have a better overal theme, the inside of the Resort is nothing special and feels just like a standard hotel with hallways and maybe a store to look at.

[minnie61650]

The original Poster has an interesting premise, She thinks that a DVC at the Contemporary will hurt the Contemporary, I feel that it is the other way around. I think a DVC at the Contemporary is a bad thing for DVC. It would be the first DVC property ever that was not theamed (I don't buy the "Futuristic" theme) as the plans look just like a Miami highrise condo.

I think most Contemporary DVC backers really just want a DVC on the monorail. If DVC announced a new beautifully theamed stand alone DVC with monorial access, I bet you would see alot of Contemporary DVC backers jump ship.

Unless that resort also offered a walkway to the MK and the same or better/closer views of the MK as the CR than I for one would not jump ship.

[write2caro]

Unless that resort also offered a walkway to the MK and the same or better/closer views of the MK as the CR than I for one would not jump ship.

Ditto. I fell in love with my MK view at CR. If I could get anything like that at CRV, I'm in. I feel so spoiled by it I've been posting my "view" photos here for the past few days, and crying the whole time... :sad: :rolleyes:
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=836587&page=1129

[dwelty]

I was waiting for the right time post this so after what you said I can now do that. You claim the Contemporary is not that much of a theamed Resort, well let me ask you what theme is there at the Yacht & Beach Club? I have visited there a few times and let me tell you I don't see what is so special about it. When you walk in everything is basically down the hallways, where as at the Contemporary the main attraction is the 4th floor concourse level. So while the Yacht & Beach Club may have a better overal theme, the inside of the Resort is nothing special and feels just like a standard hotel with hallways and maybe a store to look at.

New England Seaside resort is what I would say the theme is. I think alot of people would dissagree with you (Especially considering that the Yacht & Beach Club have the HIGHEST occupancy rates of all the WDW deluxe properties). Contemporary occupancy rates are among the lowest of the deluxe resorts. The Contemporary really has no theme at all. The Poly is the first WDW resort with a Theme, and they have stuck with themed resorts since that time.

Now I would like to say that the Contemporary has the best location of any WDW resort hands down. This still doesn't change the fact that the building itself is really not much different than many other hotels around the country (Minus the Monorail), and the DVC building is even more common looking.

[Finny]

We are planning on a big add-on, if or when, Contemporary becomes a DVC property.

[Dis13]

Personally, I'm more concerned about the effect of the new Four Seasons resort that is being built across Bay Lake from the Contemporary. I think this will have a much larger impact on the area than a DVC tower. (image from Screamscape).

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/dis13/2007_FourSeasons_map.jpg

[write2caro]

Personally, I'm more concerned about the effect of the new Four Seasons resort that is being built across Bay Lake from the Contemporary. I think this will have a much larger impact on the area than a DVC tower. (image from Screamscape).

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/dis13/2007_FourSeasons_map.jpg

YIKES! That's a HUGE area! :eek:

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

New England Seaside resort is what I would say the theme is. I think alot of people would dissagree with you (Especially considering that the Yacht & Beach Club have the HIGHEST occupancy rates of all the WDW deluxe properties). Contemporary occupancy rates are among the lowest of the deluxe resorts. The Contemporary really has no theme at all. The Poly is the first WDW resort with a Theme, and they have stuck with themed resorts since that time.

Now I would like to say that the Contemporary has the best location of any WDW resort hands down. This still doesn't change the fact that the building itself is really not much different than many other hotels around the country (Minus the Monorail), and the DVC building is even more common looking. Evertime my family and I stay at the Contemporary they are always booked with guests there on vacations and guests there for conventions. So I have a hard time believing their occupancy rates are among the lowest of the Deluxe Resorts since they are always busy when I am there and without seeing any proof to back up that claim.

Aside from that I still say the Yacht & Beach Club is still like any other Hotel because all there is in the inside are just hallways, where as at the Contemporary they have the 4th floor concourse level where all the action happens and a lot more.

[dwelty]

Evertime my family and I stay at the Contemporary they are always booked with guests there on vacations and guests there for conventions. So I have a hard time believing their occupancy rates are among the lowest of the Deluxe Resorts since they are always busy when I am there and without seeing any proof to back up that claim.

Aside from that I still say the Yacht & Beach Club is still like any other Hotel because all there is in the inside are just hallways, where as at the Contemporary they have the 4th floor concourse level where all the action happens and a lot more.

I am basing the occupancy rates on 2 things, one, what I have read posted here, and two, the last 3 time I have called CRO, the only rooms avaliable at the deluxe resorts has been CR and AKL. I think this is due in part to the (now demolished) north wing and the south wings which are a cut below the main CR tower. I don't want you to think that I totally hate the CR. I think the Location is great, and the California Grill is my favorite dinning venue on property. I just like theamed resorts better. I am candid with my feelings since a DVC at CR has not been announced.

Once they start selling DVC there, and we have members on this site that are owners, my lips are sealed.:rolleyes1

[sgtdisney]

Evertime my family and I stay at the Contemporary they are always booked with guests there on vacations and guests there for conventions. So I have a hard time believing their occupancy rates are among the lowest of the Deluxe Resorts since they are always busy when I am there and without seeing any proof to back up that claim.


You really can't base the fact the the Contemporary is busy with a lot of people and say their occupancy is high. I agree that the tower occupancy is high, but would imagine the garden wings occupancy is low and that is what brings CRs occupancy rates down. Of course, now that one of the wings is a pile of rubbish, and the other has been refurbished, we may see the occupancy rates increase, because the number of rooms outside the tower itself has dropped dramatically.

Also the Contemporary (and Polynesian) for that matter have a lot of foot traffic of people who aren't staying there, because they are on the monorail and people want to see what a Disney Resort is like. Personally I think a DVC would probably help the CR along and bring new business into the complex. I can't see it being that much more crowded than it is. Chef Mickey's and the California Grill bring in a lot of outside business from other Disney hotels and even off property guests.

[UConnJack]

You really can't base the fact the the Contemporary is busy with a lot of people and say their occupancy is high. I agree that the tower occupancy is high, but would imagine the garden wings occupancy is low and that is what brings CRs occupancy rates down. Of course, now that one of the wings is a pile of rubbish, and the other has been refurbished, we may see the occupancy rates increase, because the number of rooms outside the tower itself has dropped dramatically.

I agree, the CR tower is a cool building, and have always enjoyed my stays/visits there. It does not have the in your face themeing that many of the other resorts have, but it does not just feel like any run of the mill hotel.

The CR garden building rooms, OTOH, are among the most bland accommodations at WDW, and I am sure are the reason the occupancy rates are low. Building a DVC there is the smartest thing they can do, in fact, they should destroy the south wing too and build that into a DVC. Get rid of the 15-story crescent building plans, destroy the south wing, and build two new "mini" CRV towers at each location that compliment the original and don't overshadow it.

[Sammie]

I agree, the CR tower is a cool building, and have always enjoyed my stays/visits there. It does not have the in your face themeing that many of the other resorts have, but it does not just feel like any run of the mill hotel.

The CR garden building rooms, OTOH, are among the most bland accommodations at WDW, and I am sure are the reason the occupancy rates are low. Building a DVC there is the smartest thing they can do, in fact, they should destroy the south wing too and build that into a DVC. Get rid of the 15-story crescent building plans, destroy the south wing, and build two new "mini" CRV towers at each location that compliment the original and don't overshadow it.

I would think that would be an excellent plan. I think two 6 or 7 floor mini versions of the tower would be great, with a smaller version of the monorail going and coming from the wings to the main tower. Something similar to what they have at the airport.

[minnie61650]

.....
Aside from that I still say the Yacht & Beach Club is still like any other Hotel because all there is in the inside are just hallways, where as at the Contemporary they have the 4th floor concourse level where all the action happens and a lot more.


I agree with CR Resort Fan 4 Life.

The major theming at the CR is on the inside where as at the YC &BC the theming is on the outside.

It does not mean the CR is laking in theming.

Compare Vegas resorts --- most of the theming of the Belligio, Vegas Hilton, Mandalay Bay and the Wynn (to name a few )is on the inside of the buildings. The outsides of those hotels are pretty standard.

Does that mean those hotels have no themes?

I think NOT!

Have fun at Disney!:wizard:

[BroganMc]

I would think that would be an excellent plan. I think two 6 or 7 floor mini versions of the tower would be great, with a smaller version of the monorail going and coming from the wings to the main tower. Something similar to what they have at the airport.

I wouldn't mind that design plan. You'd still have around 14 floors of DVC so the resort would be large enough.

Only trouble would be where to put the themed pool. DVC tends to put the pool in a central location so neither end feels left out.

And no I don't think a DVC would hurt the Contemporary. Some say it's so bland a stick of dynamite would be helpful. ;) For me, I think a new and better boarding platform to the monorail is in order. It could get mighty crowded on that elevator to that tiny loading bridge.

[dwelty]

Compare Vegas resorts --- most of the theming of the Belligio, Vegas Hilton, Mandalay Bay and the Wynn (to name a few )is on the inside of the buildings. The outsides of those hotels are pretty standard.


Have fun at Disney!:wizard:

Minnie61650, you just summed it up better than I ever could, Contemporary IS like a Vegas hotel. Exactly my point!

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I agree with CR Resort Fan 4 Life.

The major theming at the CR is on the inside where as at the YC &BC the theming is on the outside.

It does not mean the CR is laking in theming.

Compare Vegas resorts --- most of the theming of the Belligio, Vegas Hilton, Mandalay Bay and the Wynn (to name a few )is on the inside of the buildings. The outsides of those hotels are pretty standard.

Does that mean those hotels have no themes?

I think NOT!

Have fun at Disney!:wizard: That was very well said and it's good that you also see the Contemporary the same way I do. :thumbsup2

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Get rid of the 15-story crescent building plans, destroy the south wing, and build two new "mini" CRV towers at each location that compliment the original and don't overshadow it. There two things I see that won't work with your idea. 1st I don't see them wanting to tear down the South Garden Wing rooms for a very & I mean very long time since they were just renovated. 2nd If the South Garden Wings were to go then there would be a period of time when it would be even harder to stay just in the Tower of the Contemporary. With all the guests who stay there just for a vacation and the guests who stay for conventions it's very hard to book any room at the Contemporary, so that is why my family and I book months in advance. For our stay there this August we booked it last December and it's good we did because I checked online for fun to see if there were any rooms left, well as of right now from 8/7-8/17 which is the dates we will be there it's 100% sold out. Last month when we booked for December 2007 we were told the Atrium Club was 100% sold out from 12/15-12/25, so we booked a Garden View Concierge room at the Polynesian. So those are my reasons why it's a bad idea to get rid of the South Garden Wing.

[minnie61650]

New England Seaside resort is what I would say the theme is. I think alot of people would dissagree with you (Especially considering that the Yacht & Beach Club have the HIGHEST occupancy rates of all the WDW deluxe properties). Contemporary occupancy rates are among the lowest of the deluxe resorts. The Contemporary really has no theme at all. The Poly is the first WDW resort with a Theme, and they have stuck with themed resorts since that time.

Now I would like to say that the Contemporary has the best location of any WDW resort hands down. This still doesn't change the fact that the building itself is really not much different than many other hotels around the country (Minus the Monorail), and the DVC building is even more common looking.

Yes, different guests see the Disney resorts differently.
Which is why it is so nice that Disney has so many choices.

If I want the look of New England Seaside in my resort I will stay at the Harborside Portsmouth Hotel NH, instead of the Grand Floridian I prefer the Grand Hotel on Mackinac Island, Michigan.

When I am at Disney I don't my resort to make me think I am in another part of the country or world.

I want to be reminded I am at Disney.

Monorails coming through a hotel lobby, the giant icons at the values and the whimsical look of the Dolphin and Swan hotels remind me I am at Disney when I stay there.

Have fun at Disney!:wizard:

[erikthewise]

It's an interesting question, in that people who want CRV want it because they like the Contemporary, and people who don't want CRV to be built, don't want it because they like the Contemporary!

I don't have an emotional attachment to the Contemporary, so I'm OK either way, as long as the original tower section remains. My only objection is that I'd rather it were at the Polynesian. :sigh:

It sure would be nice if it were done tastefully, with somewhere in the neighborhood of 150-200 units.

[UConnJack]

There two things I see that won't work with your idea. 1st I don't see them wanting to tear down the South Garden Wing rooms for a very & I mean very long time since they were just renovated. 2nd If the South Garden Wings were to go then there would be a period of time when it would be even harder to stay just in the Tower of the Contemporary. With all the guests who stay there just for a vacation and the guests who stay for conventions it's very hard to book any room at the Contemporary, so that is why my family and I book months in advance. For our stay there this August we booked it last December and it's good we did because I checked online for fun to see if there were any rooms left, well as of right now from 8/7-8/17 which is the dates we will be there it's 100% sold out. Last month when we booked for December 2007 we were told the Atrium Club was 100% sold out from 12/15-12/25, so we booked a Garden View Concierge room at the Polynesian. So those are my reasons why it's a bad idea to get rid of the South Garden Wing.

You are absolutely right, it won't happen because they already refurb'ed the south garden. I just think if they had thought it out a little better, they could really transform the back properties into something special, DVC or otherwise. I know we don't have final plans yet (or even know if CVR is in the cards), so who knows if the crescent will be the design. I just think the three different styles (the CR tower, the garden wing, and the crescent DVC) will feel very ad-hoc and won't compliment each other. I am all about symmetry here, I really think the best look and feel would have been to replace all the garden wings with something new in a similar style (at least with each other.) Not all the units would have to be DVC, make some hotel suites/villas in a similar style with DVC, but run through CR. Sammie's idea of mini-monorail people movers back to the main tower would have been really cool.

As for the pool, that wouldn't be hard. Give each building a smaller quiet pool, and just expand the current main pool for all three. Make it bigger, add a slide, zero entry, water play area, etc.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

As for the pool, that wouldn't be hard. Give each building a smaller quiet pool, and just expand the current main pool for all three. Make it bigger, add a slide, zero entry, water play area, etc.The main pool at the Contemporary already does have a water slide and if my memory is correct I think there is a water play area. Personally I think the pool is big enough but if they want to make it bigger I would not mind seeing that happen and yes I think it should make it zero entry.

[UConnJack]

The main pool at the Contemporary already does have a water slide and if my memory is correct I think there is a water play area. Personally I think the pool is big enough but if they want to make it bigger I would not mind seeing that happen and yes I think it should make it zero entry.

I forgot about the water slide they do have, but it could be expanded, and the water play area is just a few spouts. I guess I just mean the pool would have to be bigger if it were the main pool for both CR and CRV, and would need an expansion of these things.