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Peter Pirate 2
03-05-2007, 02:01 PM
We've been discussing how far Disney has fallen in both confidence and quality in their movie endeavors so I'd like to ask who in Hollywood still gets 'it'? Even if it's just a little.

Certainly Pixar got it but can they still keep it under the Disney ownership?

How about HBO? I know they have had big successes with their weekly shows (Sopranos, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Entourage). What do they do that ABC can't?

The Weinsteins seemed to care about their work but had that bad relationship with Eisner and I don't know how they're doing now...

What say you? Anyone? Mr. Voice, I know you have some input.:thumbsup2

2Xited4Disney
03-05-2007, 02:34 PM
How about HBO? I know they have had big successes with their weekly shows (Sopranos, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Entourage). What do they do that ABC can't?

Swearing


It sounds stupid but after watching all three season of Entourage in one day ( 1 and 2 on DVD's and 3 on You Tube) it was wierd to go back to regular TV where language is censored.

YoHo
03-05-2007, 02:47 PM
None of the major studios "Get it" on a corporate level. Hollywood is dying.

There are PEOPLE that get it. That's how Pixar has succeeded, but on a corporate level, they're all screwing the pooch.

Mickmse2002
03-05-2007, 08:06 PM
Disney still gets it. As proof I offer a recently heard rumor about the release of Santa Claus IV wherein Tim Allen becomes trapped in a North Pole snowglobe produced by the elves for sale at the Christmas store in Downtown Disney. The globe he is in gets bought by a couple from Des Moines with two kids and dog. Unfortunately theirr kids leave the snowglobe in the castle penthouse suite after winning their free night in the Year of a Million Dreams contest. Will Christmas be saved or is Tim Allen destined to become a new animatronic figure on Small World?

Stay tuned.......

ssonley
03-06-2007, 11:06 PM
direct to video?

Jking of course... :rotfl2:

EUROPACL
03-07-2007, 12:18 AM
Wow what a loaded question...There are very few movies that I will pay to see in a theater these days. Most are guility pleasures like Harry Potter ( movies have been horrible compared to the books.) I do agree that HBO has been putting out some great stuff....Deadwood, The Wire, Band of Brothers....not something for the kids though. I can count on my two hands movies over the last 10 years that I think were good-great and worth my money and time to see.

Another Voice
03-09-2007, 10:37 PM
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you on this. I had to really think about it to come up with a good, straightforward answer.

The most important ingredient to making a successful movie, play or show is passion. You must have people that are driven, sometimes irrationally, to pour their work into the project. Most people don’t believe it, but it takes such an incredible amount of work to create something really great – only the deeply dedicated can follow through.

Pixar works because the people there love making their movies. They rush into the office before dawn because they can’t wait to start. They sweat out the details not because they have to, but because they have fun doing it. And the first thing they say when they think they’ve finished a character or a scene is “okay, now how do we make it better”. They are their movie’s biggest fans, they want to see the finished product more than anyone else.

At HBO they have focused their business on finding projects created by teams with the passion to make great shows. Tom Hanks is extremely passionate about honoring those who served in World War II and in America’s space program – that passion showed through in both Band of Brothers and From the Earth to the Moon. He made those programs because he wanted to tell those stories.

Bob Iger sits at his desk and doesn’t really care what stories he wants to tell. He has hour after hour of programming space to fill and his only concern is seeing 30 seconds bits of it for as much as possible. It doesn’t really matter what people are watching, or why, or even in what numbers – only as long as some company wants to pay for a bit of the action.

Shows become a business project – the least amount of investment for the greatest possible return. People are there to create; they are there to collect a pay check. They don’t think of it as “their show”, it’s a product that fits a corporate marketing program. It must be brought in on time, on budget to be a “success”. No one really cares what it is; they just hope it sells well enough so they have a job next week. Short cuts are taken, the hard work goes undone.

In short, making movies is really a cottage industry – they’re part art, part craft that relay on skilled people to create them. But too often that have become mass produced, industrial products. Giant media corporations, with quarterly targets and interchangeable employees, can not produce works filled with individual passion.