what to do about DD's boyfriend,not on DDP?

[karliebug]

I am considering allowing my DD's boyfriend to come with us on our trip. He will pay for his own flight and hopper ticket. He will not pay for the room because he will sleep on the floor in a sleeping bag. We will all be on the dining plan and going to expensive places, he will be paying OOP. Can we do this? Can we use our credits and pay OOP for him? Can we share food with him if he is not on the plan? For example, can I give him my appetizer? Afterall, I am entitled to it, does it matter who eats it?

[bicker]

Can we do this?No, sorry. All people staying in your room must be registered guests, listed in the reservation, and the Dining Plan rules require that all guests staying in the room with you must be on the Dining Plan.

[DaisyD]

I think all people in the room have to be on the DDP too. He is still using the room no matter where he sleeps.

[borgthe]

It will probably just be cheaper to add him to the room, unless that puts you over the number of people allowed in the room. Then you'd need to book a second room.

[aubriee]

I am considering allowing my DD's boyfriend to come with us on our trip. He will pay for his own flight and hopper ticket. He will not pay for the room because he will sleep on the floor in a sleeping bag. We will all be on the dining plan and going to expensive places, he will be paying OOP. Can we do this? Can we use our credits and pay OOP for him? Can we share food with him if he is not on the plan? For example, can I give him my appetizer? Afterall, I am entitled to it, does it matter who eats it?

No on all counts I'm afraid.
1. Everyone in the room must be listed on the reservation and you will be required to pay for an extra adult in the room. Also in order to attend extra magic hours everyone must have a room key and he wouldn't have one.

2. Everyone in the room must buy the same park tickets and also the dining plan.

3. Meal credits are nontransferable and meant only for the person who paid for them. Disney has recently cracked down on this. If he's sitting at the table he will be expected to order and the waiter will not allow your table to use more credits than what is indicated on the room key.

[The Sweetness]

I am considering allowing my DD's boyfriend to come with us on our trip. He will pay for his own flight and hopper ticket. He will not pay for the room because he will sleep on the floor in a sleeping bag.


I *hope* he's registered as a guest in the room. There *are* reasons why there are limits as to how many ppl are allowed in a room, other than just greed on WDWs part:laughing: It really is for safety reasons:goodvibes
If he is registered, you will have to get the DDP (and at least a 1 day pass, I think) for him as well, or for none of you at all:confused3
This wouldnt be a bad thing. Than he can pay for his DDP, and eat with the rest of the family, no worries:cutie:

[wdwmaw]

Remember if he is not a registered guest he can not attend EMH with the rest of you. I hope you have thought of this, teens really like those late nights and no room key, no go!!

[jjohnson]

Wow 40% off on you room at POP without a pin, 5th person sleeping on the floor & now sharing your DP credits with others not on the plan.

This is a question only Disney can answer. Why don't you call & ask them what they think of your plans?

[MushyMushy]

No on all counts I'm afraid.
. Everyone in the room must buy the same park tickets and also the dining plan.



I'm curious about this one now. I'm planning a trip where DD and I will go to WDW for 10 days on the dining plan, and DH will be joining us midway through the trip. According to everyone I've spoken with, all we have to do is add him to the room when he gets there, and he buys his own tickets and pays for his own meals.

Maybe it's different because he's meeting us there later. :confused3

[scrapperjill]

Mushy...I think everyones right...If your hubby is going to be a registered guest in your room...no matter when he arrives he'll need to purchase at the very least a 1-day base ticket and have the DDP. Everyone in the room has to be on the SAME plan. I'm not sure if that mean even ticket wise or not...my first guess would be yes...the same plan is the same plan. Any how...he will for sure need to have to the DDP once he arrives.

To the OP...Of course you've heard MANY times that having the boyfriend in the room as an unregistered guest is frowned upon... BUT if you do decide to do it this way...I wouldn't see any thing wrong with him going to the dinners with you and paying OOP. Lots of people meet up with people at the world and have dinner/lunch but happen to not all be on the DDP. You simply just tell them that you'll be paying OOP for whom ever. For that matter your not suppose to use your credits to order food for others...BUT IMO if you order your stuff and just can't eat it...then why not allow someone else at the table to have some. I'm sure MANY people don't feel this would be okay. But heck if he doesn't eat it and you won't eat it...then it'll just get tossed. Of couse he'll have to order something...and pay OOP for it....but it could be something as small as a salad or bowl of soup.??? I would put alot of thought into it first...and try and consider all of the pros and cons of doing this....like the EMH and the fact that if the boyfriend isn't a registered guest of a WDW resort...he couldn't attend these events.

[MushyMushy]

Mushy...I think everyones right...If your hubby is going to be a registered guest in your room...no matter when he arrives he'll need to purchase at the very least a 1-day base ticket and have the DDP. Everyone in the room has to be on the SAME plan. I'm not sure if that mean even ticket wise or not...my first guess would be yes...the same plan is the same plan. Any how...he will for sure need to have to the DDP once he arrives.



(sorry, op, not trying to hijack your thread)

I'll definitely check into it again! I've spoken with 3 different people -- my AAA agent, someone at CRO, and I actually called AKL to ask them about it because my AAA agent was telling me that I'd have to pay $25 to add my DH to the room, and I didn't think that was true because he wasn't a 3rd adult. Even the guy at AKL said he could just get his tickets at the desk and pay OOP for meals. We'll see how it goes.

Adding him to the DDP and buying him tickets isn't a problem at all, but I can't see doing it for the whole 10 days we're there when it would all go to waste.

[mouseketeer_mom]

Maybe I missed some of the details, but I simply read that you wouldn't charge him for the room because he'd be sleeping on the floor (and I assumed that to mean, rather than in bed with another member of your family). Once you add him to the room though, he'll have to be on the dining plan. Frankly, if he is an average young adult male, I would think that the dining plan would be a steal for him. I can't imagine he'd be able to eat with you for less than forty dollars a day. Have a great trip!

[JimMIA]

(sorry, op, not trying to hijack your thread)

I'll definitely check into it again! I've spoken with 3 different people -- my AAA agent, someone at CRO, and I actually called AKL to ask them about it because my AAA agent was telling me that I'd have to pay $25 to add my DH to the room, and I didn't think that was true because he wasn't a 3rd adult. Even the guy at AKL said he could just get his tickets at the desk and pay OOP for meals. We'll see how it goes.

Adding him to the DDP and buying him tickets isn't a problem at all, but I can't see doing it for the whole 10 days we're there when it would all go to waste.
I am pretty sure you got bad info. One of the basic rules of the DDP is that every registered guest must have the DDP for each night of the ressie. DDP is a package, not a menu of items you select from. You all get it all -- or nobody gets anything.

The only way I know to accommodate what you want to do is to have two separate ressies, each with the correct number of people either on the DDP or not. That may mean switching rooms in the middle of a stay, but the resorts are usually able to keep you in the same place.

Those restrictions sometimes make DDP not a good choice for some families. It's not meant to fit every situation.

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OP -- All persons staying in the room are required to be registered. It's a crime in Florida not to register a guest. If you do that and get caught, Disney will probably charge you each day for the guest AND either charge you for his DDP, or cancel and refund your DDP.

[MemoryMakers2669]

Wow 40% off on you room at POP without a pin, 5th person sleeping on the floor & now sharing your DP credits with others not on the plan.

This is a question only Disney can answer. Why don't you call & ask them what they think of your plans?

The first item mentioned isn't in anyway cheating Disney, not sure why that even had to be added here! :confused3 And did the OP say that he would be the 5th person? Perhaps they are going with just them and thier DD, and the BF is sleeping on the floor so the DD and BF aren't sleeping together.

To answer the OP, obviously you know by now, that you shouldn't have him in the room without him being registared, it is against the rules. That being said, in reality, you CAN (if you choose to), leave him off, thus lying. But that is personaly choice, but really can be done, but shouldn't.

And lets say BF stayed in a different room, or offsite, or lived nearby and joined you for dinner each time, YES he could eat your app, or half of it or whatever, and pay OOP for his meals!

[MemoryMakers2669]

I'm curious about this one now. I'm planning a trip where DD and I will go to WDW for 10 days on the dining plan, and DH will be joining us midway through the trip. According to everyone I've spoken with, all we have to do is add him to the room when he gets there, and he buys his own tickets and pays for his own meals.

Maybe it's different because he's meeting us there later. :confused3

You are right here, you just add him when he arrives. My cousin did this last trip, here friend came the last three nights and DISNEY said to just tell them at the front desk that she had arrived. She didn't have to have a ticket or the dining plan (which she actually would have loved). They didn't go over the numbers though, everything was on the up and up. But she didn't have to add her for the whole 8 nights and purchase a park pass and Dining she didn't need. ETA: To take this further that DISNEY was behind this, they even told my cousin, when she checked in, to have them set up Magical Express for her friend...since she couldn't set that up ahead of time due to not being on the ressie. So, her friend got DME as well, was allowed to stay in her room for just 3 nights, didn't have to buy a park pass or dining plan and it was totally allowed! They did EVERY EMH those three days, they ran from morning until night!

OP, if you aren't going over numbers, then I would wait and add him when you arrive. So, he is accounted for, but he doesn't have to have the plan. Not sure if that works on day of check in or not.

[jjohnson]

The first item mentioned isn't in anyway cheating Disney, not sure why that even had to be added here! :confused3 And did the OP say that he would be the 5th person? Perhaps they are going with just them and thier DD, and the BF is sleeping on the floor so the DD and BF aren't sleeping together.

To answer the OP, obviously you know by now, that you shouldn't have him in the room without him being registared, it is against the rules. That being said, in reality, you CAN (if you choose to), leave him off, thus lying. But that is personaly choice, but really can be done, but shouldn't.

And lets say BF stayed in a different room, or offsite, or lived nearby and joined you for dinner each time, YES he could eat your app, or half of it or whatever, and pay OOP for his meals!


We'll she "deleted" her email & needed to call 3x to find a sweet & kind CM to risk her job & give her the discount without a pin. OP has stated in PP that she has a family of 5 but DH is not going. She's still at the 4 guest max at POP without the BF.

As I stated before, the OP needs to ask Disney not us what is right or wrong.

[MemoryMakers2669]

Being someone who got the 40% without a pin (I am a TA and was totally honest with the CM though, so different I guess), still can't fault the OP for having gotten the discount.

And yeah, if she is trying to put 5 grown people in the room, completely wrong. Call back and add a second room to the ressie!

[karliebug]

Wow 40% off on you room at POP without a pin, 5th person sleeping on the floor & now sharing your DP credits with others not on the plan.

This is a question only Disney can answer. Why don't you call & ask them what they think of your plans?

I think you are misunderstanding me.:confused3 I don't want to give away my DDP credits to him. I am just saying that suppose he orders an entree which we will pay OOP for, can I give him my appetizer or dessert that I am entitled to but really don't want. I am not trying to "cheat" disney, I am just trying to save this kid a few bucks on his meals. If I already paid for the appetizer and dessert through the plan, why does it matter who eats it?? And I didn't realize that Pop doesnt allow an extra person in the room, after all they offer roll away cots for an extra fee. I'll have to look into that more because if we have to get 2 rooms that will mean he cannot go (I can't afford a deluxe room.) Oh, and I did have the pin/code which is how I got a discount.

[Faerie]

Pop's rooms allow 4 plus one under 3 in a pack and play.

[MushyMushy]

I think you are misunderstanding me.:confused3 I don't want to give away my DDP credits to him. I am just saying that suppose he orders an entree which we will pay OOP for, can I give him my appetizer or dessert that I am entitled to but really don't want. I am not trying to "cheat" disney, I am just trying to save this kid a few bucks on his meals. If I already paid for the appetizer and dessert through the plan, why does it matter who eats it?? And I didn't realize that Pop doesnt allow an extra person in the room, after all they offer roll away cots for an extra fee. I'll have to look into that more because if we have to get 2 rooms that will mean he cannot go (I can't afford a deluxe room.) Oh, and I did have the pin/code which is how I got a discount.

Have you actually tried pricing a moderate that sleeps five? Or was that out of the question?

I was going to do a split stay to save some money, going first to a moderate for five days and then to a deluxe for four days, but it only saved us $70! :eek: You might find you're not saving all that much money by staying at a value.

[pezpam]

Pop (and many other resorts) allow 5 people in the room only if the 5th person is an infant. I'm not sure if Pop offers rollaway beds - apparently not all resorts do and I've just never asked at Pop. If they do, it is probably to accommodate a situation where people do not wish to share a bed. I can't picture where I'd safely add a rollaway to a Pop room, though.

And while I am not getting into the 'should' of the situation, what you're wanting to do is share your DDP credits. One group feels that they paid for the food, they should be able to share it with who they want. Another group says that the entitlements are listed as non-transferable, so they can't be shared. There was a recent thread where someone posted that they wrote to Disney and specifically asked about sharing a DDP meal - the response was basically that this was not allowed. How strict they are, I can't say since our first trip since the Jan 1 changes will be later this month. What you or I or anyone else defines as 'cheating' Disney doesn't matter as much as what Disney defines as 'cheating' Disney......

Either way, I hope you make it and I hope you have a great trip!

[Pedler]

I think you are misunderstanding me.:confused3 I don't want to give away my DDP credits to him. I am just saying that suppose he orders an entree which we will pay OOP for, can I give him my appetizer or dessert that I am entitled to but really don't want. I am not trying to "cheat" disney, I am just trying to save this kid a few bucks on his meals. If I already paid for the appetizer and dessert through the plan, why does it matter who eats it??

The reason they are "concerned" with who eats it is that the intention of the DDP is to have everyone in the room get it. It an all or nothing type of plan just for the reasons you are mentioning. They don't want a 4 person plan split, with some OOP, between 5 people. They want a 4 person plan to be used by 4 people. Its Disney's plan and they get to make up the rules. As some people have said the plan isn't for everyone.

As for the room count I emphasize with your situation. Growing up i was in a family of 5 and always shared one hotel room. Today it seems that the hotels really penalize you for being a family, or in your case a group, of 5. In essence you have to double your hotel cost because of one more person. Its unfortunate but it is the rules.

[beth_cam]

I think you are misunderstanding me.:confused3 I don't want to give away my DDP credits to him. I am just saying that suppose he orders an entree which we will pay OOP for, can I give him my appetizer or dessert that I am entitled to but really don't want. I am not trying to "cheat" disney, I am just trying to save this kid a few bucks on his meals. If I already paid for the appetizer and dessert through the plan, why does it matter who eats it?? And I didn't realize that Pop doesnt allow an extra person in the room, after all they offer roll away cots for an extra fee. I'll have to look into that more because if we have to get 2 rooms that will mean he cannot go (I can't afford a deluxe room.) Oh, and I did have the pin/code which is how I got a discount.

Obvious by the wording in your first post you didnt realize it and I think due that and the increasing strictness on the boards is the only reason many didnt jump to rake you over the coals on that instead of just telling you it wasnt allowed. If you can stay at one of the port orleans resorts (dont remember which) they allow 5 in a room, but you will then have to put him on the dining plan with you, as well as get him the same tickets as you. It would work out a little more expensive than just the price ofan extra room at a value but when you consider that then he would have to purchase food on top of it, it would most likely be the cheaper route, and will have everyone on the same plan.


Fyi - Disney does not allow extras in any of the rooms over the advertised limit...Roll aways are more for I have only 4 but they wont share a bed kind of situations.

As far as sharing food if you do get him his own room, As long as he is ordering a meal type food I dont see that it would be an issue to give him your desert. Mostly the thought has been if you are sharing your meal not buying someone else a whole meal it really doesnt matter. No one is really going to pay attention to or care about who eats which food as long as it is all purchased per the rules. Think about this plan though if you are eating table service everyday and a second meal, his costs will be probably atleast as much as if he was on the plan.

1 night 2 rooms at pop = 174.15 +bf's oop meal costs
1 night 1 room port orleans = 134.32 +ddp for bf = 173.32

I had forgotten the 40% Off..if you can get your reservation changed...

[The Sweetness]

Sounds like 2 value rooms is your best bet. MAybe dds bf can help pay for that second room. And a grown boy should have the DDP. its a good deal:goodvibes

[Uncleromulus]

This has probably gone far enough. It's one of those "ask WDW directly" questions.