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TinkerbellRules
11-26-2000, 08:13 AM
Can someone who has been to both WDW and DL tell me briefly their impressions when comparing the two? We've been to WDW 4x as a family (I've been 2 more times) and we are debating on making the long flight to DL next year instead of WDW just to experience it.

What airport do you fly into? What are some of the hotel (ie, like ASMo's, etc). When is the best time to visit for lower crowds (ie, like Oct at WDW).

Thanks for your input!

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Mary Jo
11-26-2000, 10:08 AM
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I'd say that the best times to visit DL are in May/June, September, and December. Of course, the summer months offer longer hours and shows like Fantasmic every night, instead of just on the weekends.

The new "Disneyland Resort" only offers Deluxe type hotels, however, Disneyland is surrounded by nice moderate type hotels, and there are nearby Motel 6's, too.

If you go to our Trip Report board you can get an idea of some of the surrounding hotels.

As far as the parks go, Disneyland is more fun than the Magic Kingdom because it offers more, and has quaint charm. Be prepared, though, for a much smaller castle. Now that DCA is opening, as well as Downtown Disney, there is more to offer, too.

Also, there is a lot to see here in Los Angeles. Let us know, ane we'll be happy to steer you the right way. :)

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steves5150
11-27-2000, 06:51 AM
Here is the difference between Disneyland and Magic Kingdom

Attractions Exclusive to Disneyland

The Walt Disney Story Featuring "Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln" (WDW has a version called Hall of Presidents)

Indiana Jones Adventure (WDW has the same vehicle used in Dinosaur but not as good as Indiana Jones!!!)

The Matterhorn

Storybook Land Canal Boats

Casey Jr. Circus Train

Alice in Wonderland

Mr. Toad's Wild Ride

Pinocchio's Daring Journey

Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin

Jolley Trolley

Gadget's Go Coaster (WDW has a similar ride Barnstormer)

Sailing Ship Columbia

Rocket Rods

Club 33!!!!!

Attractions at Disneyland and Walt Disney World
There are also a few attractions that are significantly different than their Walt Disney World versions:
Pirates of the Caribbean (DL, WDW) - Disneyland's is longer with more scenes and better drops.

The Treehouse (DL, WDW) - Walt Disney World still has the Swiss Family Treehouse while Disneyland has done a major update on theirs and rethemed it to Tarzan's Treehouse.

The Tiki Room (DL, WDW) - Disneyland has a version very close to the orginal. Walt Disney World's has been updated with characters from recent movies and a modern soundtrack. I like them both but the Original is King!!!!

Fireworks (DL, WDW) - Disneyland's latest fireworks show, "Believe ... There's Magic in the Stars" is phenomenal and is much more than a traditional fireworks show.

Fantasmic! (DL, WDW) - Fantasmic! may be the best things - show or attraction - Disney has to offer. While the Disneyland and Walt Disney World versions aren't that different, the more intimate seating of Disneyland's along with the larger show area make the Disneyland version worth seeing even if you've seen Walt Disney World's.

Country Bears (DL, WDW) - Walt Disney World has the original Country Bear Jamboree while Disneyland has the more recent Country Bear Vacation Hoedown. Same concept but very different shows.

Autopia (DL, WDW) - The Walt Disney World version of this is called the Tomorrowland Indy Speedway. Both attractions involve riding small cars around Tomorrowland, but the themes and car designs are very different.

Splash Mountain (DL, WDW) the one at WDW is much longer and the log is 2 person wide. Sorry but they did a better job at WDW on this one.

The Jungle Cruise (DL, WDW) the one at WDW is longer with more scenes in a tunnel at the end of the ride.

It’s a small World (DL, WDW) is not as good as DL.

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Rajah
11-27-2000, 07:45 AM
In some ways, comparing DL to all of WDW is almost like comparing apples and oranges. The biggest difference is the size. DL isn't even as large as WDW...I think it's about the size of MGM. So WDW has a LOT more to offer in sheer number.

HOWEVER, nearly everything at DL has a lot more charm than it does at WDW, and because of that, DL will always be my favorite :D

I'll start with your specific questions since I got a little long-winded comparing the parks... ;)

I tend to fly into LAX and either take the Airport Bus or ride with friends to get to Disneyland. I'd say it's roughly an hour's drive from LAX to the park. John Wayne is a bit closer, but I've had a hard time finding airlines that leave from my home airports and go to John Wayne so I just go to LAX.

In the matter of hotels, you won't find anything anywhere close to what you'll find at WDW (with the possible exception of the new Grand Californian Resort which is just now opening, in January if I'm not mistaken). The Disneyland Hotel is rather neat with all it's Disneyland memoribelia, and Goofy's Kitchen is fun (rather like Chef Mickey's, only with more of a Goofy theme), and the pool area is nicely themed, but other than that it's "just" a nice hotel. The only other option is the Pacific Hotel, which is being renamed the Paradise Pier Hotel, which I've only seen in passing. Other than that, you'll just find your average run-of-the-mill hotels all around. I personally prefer the Best Western Park Place Inn as my hotel of choice because of it's cost (less than $100/night) and it's location...it's 5 minutes from the driveway of the hotel to the gate to Main Street. There's no theming to speak of in the hotel itself, but that's true of almost all of the Harbor hotels (Harbor is one of the streets that runs alongside the park) and its proximity to the park makes up for the lack of theming.

As for best time to visit...during the week is the most I can really say. I've been for a full week in May and it wasn't bad, though it was rather warm. However, the crowds were very irritating on Saturday. The rest of the week they were comefortable once you got past the gates (though I hit more crowds waiting to get in during the week than I had on the weekend). I've been twice in May and would go again at that time, though my preferance really is January. I haven't been in December in recent memory, so can't compare. All I can say is that for overall crowds, Saturday is definitely the most crowded.

Now, I'll try comparing the parks... Steve has already done a good job of listing the attractions you'll only find at DL and the differences between the attractions found at both, so I'll go land-by-land:

Overall: Things at Disneyland tend to be smaller in scale. Like the Castle...it's really only 3 stories tall (or is it 2?) so compared to the giant Cinderella's Castle, it's tiny. But it's supposed to be a storybook castle, so I like it :D That's the only place I tend to hear WDW veterans are disappointed in Disneyland.

Main Street: Everything on Main Street at Disneyland has been designed using what they call forced perspective. I've heard that in part it was done that way to make Main Street seem longer if you're walking from the entrance to the hub (make the magical entrance seem longer, perhaps entice you into the shops and eateries), but shorter if you're walking from the hub to the entrance since tired people don't want to have to walk so far. Everything is at a certain scale, but I forget if it's 3/4ths or 4/5ths. Whatever the case, Main Street at Disneyland always feels to me to be more of a dollhouse Main Street than the full-scale thing at Disneyworld.

On Main Street you'll still find the original (with some upgrades, but essentially the original) Great Moments with Mister Lincoln. I highly recommend this oft-overlooked attraction if only for the history of the park it represents. In the waiting area, you'll find a couple of mock-ups of Walt's offices, which I found quite interesting, and it's just downright amazing what they were able to do with their first full-scale audio-animatronic.

You'll also find the Main Street Cinema as it was originally presented, rather than converted into a shop.

Furthermore, there is a wider variety of shops along Main Street, including a music shop where you'll find piano/guitar/songbooks as well as CDs, DVDs, and the make-your-own CDs, and a magic shop. They haven't yet all been converted to the generic Disney merchandise that most of Main Street at WDW has become.

And don't forget the Main Street entertainment, such as the Dapper Dans. I know they exist at both WDW and DL, but I've only stopped to watch their show at DL and would do so again.

Also, don't miss the masters at the keys, Rod and Alan. They're down on Coke Corner, and either separately or as a duet are absolutely amazing at playing old rag-time piano. The other pianists I've seen are pretty good, too, but they don't hold a candle to Rod and Alan. :D Can anyone point to a picture of Rod so they'll know who to look for? :D

Hub:
Not much different here than at WDW, other than again the scale.

Adventureland:
The two adventurelands of DL and WDW couldn't be more different in overall atmosphere. I personally prefer DL's version, but I know others who disagree. DL is much smaller in scale than WDW once again, but that just increases its charm to me.

In Adventureland you'll find the Tiki Room, complete with the Tiki-God garden and show in the waiting area. They're fun, and I was highly disappointed in the one at WDW when I saw it didn't have the Tiki-garden. DL's Tiki Room as already mentioned is very close to the original and IMHO is more charming. I'm not fond of WDW's version.

There's also Aladdin's Oasis, where you can frequently find Aladdin, Jasmine, and/or the Genie. It's got a nice little corner where you can sit down, though it's possible that's been turned into a smoking area -- can one of the locals confirm that?

The shops in DL's Adventureland are a little more memorable than those in WDW IMHO.

Jungle Cruise is shorter at Disneyland, and IMHO this is one place WDW has DL beat. It's still worth a ride, though, especially after dark. Try to shoot for the very last ride of the evening if you want a more entertaining ride...that's when I've run into the most hillarious guides almost every time.

And then there's the absolute best ride Disney has ever done, IMHO...Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Forbidden Eye (aka the Temple of Mara). This one's worth a wait even without FastPass, and if you're a fan of the Indy series, it's not to be missed!! It's similar in function to the Dinosaur/Countdown to Extinction ride in Animal Kingdom, but is VASTLY superior in theming.

There's also Tarzan's Treehouse, which is worth a quick walk-through if you liked the Tarzan movie. This used to be the Swiss Family Robinson treehouse as they have it at WDW, but was changed over last year.

New Orleans Square
This is one thing missing at WDW that adds quite a bit of charm to DL. There are really only 2 attractions here: Pirates, and the Haunted Mansion (both IMHO better than their WDW counterparts, though several people disagree about the Haunted Mansion..most agree Pirates is better). But the charm of New Orleans Square is in it's character, shop, and street entertainment rather than it's rides. Well worth a walk through, and take time to explore the neat shops and watch the jazz performers at work.

Also found in NOS is the Disney Gallery above Pirates...a must-see if you're interested in Disney history and memoribelia.

Critter Country
This is very much like the back corner of Frontierland in WDW. You'll find Splash and Country Bear Vacation Hoedown here. WDW's Splash is much better IMHO, but DL's is still worth a ride, and ditto on the Country Bears. The shows are very different between the two and both are worth seeing, but my favorite is the one in WDW.

Frontierland
Frontierland is rather lacking in much to do at DL...here you'll find Thunder Mountain (which just had a refurb and I've heard is looking great, and which IMHO is just slightly better than it's WDW counterpart), Tom Sawyer Island (quite charming, but more of a distraction than a must-see IMHO unless you have young kids), and the river rides Columbia and Mark Twain Steamboat. If you only take time to see one of the two big boats, I recommend the Columbia because if its uniqueness and the nice museum below-deck. Then there's the Golden Horseshoe Review, which is a cute show. Other than that, you'll find mostly just shops and counter-service eateries (though one such eatery, the River Belle Terrace, has the best breakfast in the park IMHO)

Fantasyland
Rather than going through every attraction in Fantasyland, let me just say that Disneyland's Fantasyland has WDW's version beat hands down. Much more character, many more rides, and other than Snow White, every one of the Fantasyland rides I've been on that can be found in both parks has been better at DL. If you have the time, don't pass *any* of them by...they're all great :D

Toon Town
WDW's Toon Town just doesn't exist compared to DL's. The scope and scale of DL's Toon Town is vastly superior to what WDW has to offer, and is well worth a trip to the back of the park just to soak in the atmosphere whether you ride any of the rides or go through the houses or not. As I recall, the houses themselves are pretty much the same inside, but you have to stop back there to take a look around whether you go through anything or not...their presentation is just so much more :D

Tomorrowland
Here is one land that I'm really torn on...in some ways, I like DL's version better in theming, in others, I prefer WDW's. I couldn't pick a favorite if I had to. The only thing that I can highly recommend if you're a coaster fan, though, is don't miss Space Mountain. DL's Space Mountain blows WDW's out of the water. It's so much better!!

So is DL worth a trip if you've already been to WDW several times? Definitely!!

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Judy from Boise
11-27-2000, 06:18 PM
Main St:

WDW is themed as a East Coast victorian town,
DL is themed as a midwestern small town. I prefer DL, and especially love how quaint and intimate it is. WDW always feels too big to me. I also enjoy the Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln at DL. Make sure to take the train on a circuit of the park.

Tomorrowland:
WDW is better themed, and has severla neat rides that Dl doesen't ( Buzz, COP, Timekeeper) but DL's Space Mountain is twice as good.

AdventureLand:

WDW is themed as a colonial outpost, while DL is themed to be a South Pacific jungle. WDW has the better Jungle Cruise, and I prefer the origianl Swiss Family Treehouse over Trazan. Pirates at DL is so much better, and of course Indy rocks !

FrontierLand:
I prefer DL's just because it is smaller, and so I think the themeing is stronger. The BTMRR at WDW is just a hair better.

FantasyLand:
WDW is themed ( and I use the word lightly) as a circus, DL is themed as a Bavarian village. A visit to DL's Fantasyland is worth the trip alone ! Every ride they share is better at DL ( especially It's a Small World), plus there are 5 original rides
Alice in Wonderland
Casey Junior circus Train
StoryLand boats
Pinocchio
and the Matterhorn.

The castle at WDW is much more elaborate.

One drawback of Dl is it's size. I love the intimate "surround you with themeing" feel, but it can become way to crowded on weekends throughout the year, and anytime in the summer.

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Rajah
11-28-2000, 06:46 AM
Y'know, I hadn't ever thought about that, Judy, but I think you're right on Main Street. *That's* why they have more of a different feel as well :D I, too, prefer DL's.

One thing I forgot to mention in mine was Liberty Square found only in WDW...all the attractions in Liberty Square are found elsewhere in Disneyland: Hall of Presidents is found in a smaller (and IMHO better) form in the Great Moments with Mister Lincoln show on Main Street, Haunted Mansion (with a different theme building outside but inside essentially the same ride) is found in New Orleans Square (and I personally like DL's better, though that one seems to be that whichever one you saw first is the one you like best), and the boat rides (those that exist at DL) are all found in Frontierland.

Another thing I remembered from another post is that it's much harder to find character meals at Disneyland than it is at WDW -- to my knowledge, there's only one that offers characters at all meals, and only one other place that offers character breakfasts. Goofy's Kitchen at the Disneyland Hotel offers Chef Mickey style (buffet) meals with Goofy and friends and wasn't bad. The characters were quite fun the times I went. And I believe there's a character breakfast at the end of Main Street, though I'm not certain on that (it may be gone by now) nor am I certain of the name of the restaurant, though I believe it's the Plaza Pavilion.

Also, another difference with the castle is that at WDW there's a restaurant, shops, (and I believe offices?) in Cinderella's Castle whereas at DL you'll find only shops and the really cute Sleeping Beauty walk-through which, if you're not afraid of narrow enclosed paths, is worth a walk through. Especially for kids.

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steves5150
11-28-2000, 02:29 PM
I like the observations you all have on the comparison between the two parks. Here is something I wrote back in July when I just got back from WDW. I have since been back to Disneyland and I see what you all mean about it having a different and more detailed feeling. It will always be Disneyland. Here is what I wrote. My above post was more of a comparison list. This one is how I rate them.

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I just got back from my 5th time at WDW and since I live in California I have gone to Disneyland many times. I know Disneyland can't compare to Disney World just because of all the different things WDW has to offer but a side by side comparison of the Magic kingdom and Disneyland was something my girlfriend and I were discussing and this is our opinion.

Pirates of the Caribbean: Disneyland is better, longer, and has more drops.
Space Mountain: WDW is a better ride but the sound system just put in the Disneyland one adds to the ride.
Small World: Disneyland is better
Splash Mtn.: WDW is longer and better
Fantasmic: I know it is in MGM but I was all excited about seeing it in Florida after seeing it many times in Disneyland and after a huge line (11:00 show) I was not impressed. Much smaller show.
Tiki room: Many don’t like the new one at WDW but I thought it was entertaining and funny but I do hope they keep the original in Disneyland so I would call this one a tie.
Jungle Cruise: About the same at first but WDW has a whole section at the end that Disneyland does not have.
Thunder Mtn.: A little better and longer at WDW.

There are also many things one park has and the other does not such as:
Disneyland has:
Indiana Jones (WDW has the same sort of ride in Dinosaurs and is also supposed to build a Indiana Jones)
Matterhorn
And the biggest difference is the secret Club 33 (yes I have know it exists because I have been in it)

Magic Kingdom has:
Much better Tomorrow land with many rides Disneyland does not.

I know I missed some comparisons but what is your opinion?

Steve

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Kimmyrella
11-29-2000, 12:02 PM
All these posts are GREAT! I pretty much agree with what everyone has said, except that I feel WDW's Fantasmic and DL's Fantasmic are VERY different.

WDW's version does a whole pocahontas show within the show, whereas in the DL version we get a Peter Pan show...complete with the boat columbia acting as the stage. Pirates are swinging from the masts and peter "flies" over the boat and everything. This alone makes Disneyland's version MUCH better than WDW. Not to mention the finale when all the characters come out on the full scale "Mark Twain" rather than just a small scale boat that WDW uses. Also, I love the villian part in the DL version with the HUGE Ursula.

Now, about that castle. A lot has been said about the difference in size of the castles. WDW is soooooo much bigger. I have to agree. It is much bigger and a definite landmark. But what people forget to mention is that next to Sleeping Beauty's Castle at DL stands "The Matterhorn". The reason the castle was designed at that size was to keep it in scale with the Matterhorn. It would look rather ridiculous to have a castle bigger than the Matterhorn. So, while DL does
not have a large Castle, it does have a castle AND the Matterhorn.

The only thing that I felt the MK at WDW had over DL was Splash Mountain. I found it to be much more charming.

Now comparing all of WDW? Well, there is no comparison. You can lose yourself in a whole world of Disney in Florida, which is so very magical! But DL will always have my heart. Afterall, It was Walt's "baby" and as I walk down Mainstreet past Walt's apartment with the light on in the window, it sometimes gives me chills to know that Walt, himself, walked that very same street.

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RobertR
11-30-2000, 10:05 AM
As far as airports, another one to consider is Long Beach. It's a small airport (only a few gates and you actually walk off the airplane via stairs), but I think it's the closest airport to Disney (30 minutes if I remember correctly). It has car rentals and is actually really easy to get in and out of. I can fly direct into it from Dallas/Fort Worth, but others probably can't. It's usually cheaper, too.

As far as comparing the parks, I can't add more than what has been written already (great reading!). I will say that with WDW, I can go a week, and I never want to leave the WDW area. With DL, two days is my limit. That will change, of course, with the new additions!!!! My clouded point is, make sure you plan other activities if you are staying for an extended time.

Kamin
11-30-2000, 11:20 AM
Trying to compare the two is, as stated in a previous post, apples and oranges, imho. There are four theme parks, three water parks, tons of resorts, golf courses, Celebration, The Disney Village, Pleasure Island, an Institute, and I can go on at WDW. But then, Walt never saw it except in his mind. DL has such a small town feel where as WDW is the big city. Of course, WDW has one thing over DL...I work at WDW ;)

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Charlieanna
11-30-2000, 10:28 PM
My vote goes for Disney Land vs. the Magic Kingdom at WDW, although I love them both. Why? I'm not sure, but DL seems more quaint and detailed, perhaps because it was the first and is older and was done when such great detail was important. Both are architecturally different as someone else mentioned and it's fun to see how so. In DL you can hang out and watch not only people, but for instance in the Rivers of America area, you can have a meal at one of the restaurants with outdoor seating and watch the Sailing Ship Columbia and the Mark Twain Riverboat, as well as the canoe-ers go by on the water- which is quite spectacular. In WDW it is often too hot or crowded to just sit and take it all in. You can also see what made Disney famous, like what's in those old Disney shows they run late at night on the Disney channel. It's the original small town feel.

Fantasmic is much better at DL than WDW (I think). I would rather wait sitting on the ground than standing on concrete, penned in close quarters up with hundreds of others for an hour before the show. (And PS, DL has just finished a refurbishment of Fantasmic and we were just there for the opening. I am sorry to say, but the big Ursula was not part of either of the two shows we saw! Don't know why because I could see it hiding in the "parking lagoon" from the train though.) The Tiki room is also better in it's original state at DL, and of course, there is Indiana Jones there. (Rocket Rods and Roger Rabbit are closed indeterminitely although it doesn't say this on the official web site or on the daily schedule).

Re: characters; We found them all over. Best places are Toon Town in the center plaza area, on Main Street outside the Emporium and by the hat place at the entry to Main Street, and you can also wait in line for Eyore, Tigger, Pooh, and Ariel at their respective meeting places. The daily park schedule lists these times and places. We also had very good luck just running into characters just cruising around the park on the early entry days. I would also highly recommend going to Goofy's kitchen for any meal. Definitely worth the price for both food and character attention. (Make reservations or be prepared to wait possibly an hour.)

It's a tough choice to decide between WDW and DL. WDW has more parks and more variety, however if you have never been to DL, you should see it to judge for yourself. And with the opening of the new park, BONUS! I have heard that some have enough of DL in one or two days, however I can easily fill 5 days there to really be able to see and take it all in, but then again, I like to marvel at every detail and thought-out aspect of the whole picture and just "drink in" the Disney (Some will know what I mean). Even the plants and gardens are spectacular (and of course different from Florida). All in all, the original rides that were in DL first, are still better at DL than WDW in my opinion.

I might also add that if you make a trip to DL that you take a side trip to Universal Studios Hollywood as it is much different than the Florida version also. Avoid Knott's unless you can handle disappointment. It has it's qualities, but is albino in comparison to Disney (as opposed to pale) <IMG WIDTH="15" HEIGHT="15" SRC="/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="razz">

And last but not least... we learned the hard way, take the dang shuttle (express or whatever). Do not take the Airport Bus unless you find out for sure if it drops off at your hotel!!! Apparently the city does not want them to stop at every hotel and now designates stops every few blocks. I can't tell you how much agony it caused us to have to lug our stuff from this dang stop (only a block or less but it seemed like a mile) to our hotel, and vice-versa on the return trip. The shuttle may cost a few bucks more, but would be worth it if the bus doesn't stop at or in front of your hotel!!!!!

Here'sTigger2U
12-01-2000, 08:30 AM
And to all true Disney fans everywhere...Let's not forget that Walt himself walked the pathways of DisneyLand, and was able to see first hand the joy and happiness he brought to families who came to DisneyLand. All the things that make WDW magical, were things that Walt himself saw as "Needing Improvement" in Disneyland. I have only been to DL once, in March of 1999. As I live in New York, I (unfortunately) will not be back anytime soon...WDW is just plain easier and cheaper to go to from NYC. But as a big Disney fan, I must say that as I walked and played in Disneyland, I realized to myself "This is where it all began". Disneyland, to a TRUE Disney fan, is our Mecca. While WDW and even competing funparks get bigger, faster, and better, never Forget that all this began with one man who had a dream...and made it into a reality. And in this Walt has made it possible for us to visit DL and WDW and turn ours and our children's realities into dreams.

Bob.

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Jerry1008
12-01-2000, 04:56 PM
You should consider flying into John Wayne airport in Irvine California. It's a small airport (Maybe 16 gates), but is beautiful and convenient. Very new and very user friendly. I fly out there all the time on business and when I have the choice I always go there instead of LAX. It is also only 20 minutes or so from Disneyland. The best kept secret in the world if you are going out there. If you are going to do Universal too, LAX might be better because it is between Disneyland and Universal.

Zimbubba
12-05-2000, 02:38 PM
We have been to WDW many times. As DVC members we go every other yery familiar with it.

This year we had the opportunity to go to LA on business and fulfill a childhood dream. That dream was to visit Disneyland. TThe experience is similar and different at the same time. Many of the posters have done an excellent job describing it. What makes Disneyland special is that Walt was there. You can see his touches and feel his presence. The whole experience was an emotional one.

Go and enjoy!

calbayBWV
12-05-2000, 06:24 PM
You folks sure know your Disneyland vs. Magic Kingdom, I am impressed (not that impressing me means anything).

There was a great site linked from a similar thread on The Dis which had pictures of what was at one park and not the other, cannot find it.

For Disney nuts like us there are many nuances and diferences, but essentially the parks, for the novice visitor, are the same.

I am suprised that no one pointed out that Tom Sawyer Island at Disneyland has NO FOOD, compared to Magic Kingdom's Tom Sawyer island with Aunt Polly's dockside Inn.

Disneyworld is like 4 Disneyland's put together, with 1/4 of it the Magic Kingdom being essentially Disneyland's younger twin sister.

I really like them both equally, and once I am in the park, I have to pinch myself to figure out if I am in Florida or California.

I have to say that love seeing MK across the lake, it seems so remote.

Now to further comlicate future comparisons we now have a more complex question with the addition of The Grand Californian, California Adventure, and Downtown Disney, in comparing DW to DL, now "The DL Resort".

Anyways, my little trip report is getting no attention, will someone read it please:

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Dear Michelle, Kelsie, and Maryjo: how about a discussion link to us little Disneyland people from the sites main page? (I asked Michelle about this before :) ).

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Judy from Boise
12-18-2000, 07:52 AM
I am bumping this up since we currently have some first timers on the board . :)


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pouncingpluto
12-18-2000, 10:52 AM
Thanks.. it's a very, very helpful read!

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TwoOldPoohs
12-19-2000, 12:20 PM
Having been to WDW many times (and hopefully many more this year alone, since we just activated our first-time annual passes!) we started thinking about visiting DL next year and were hoping we wouldn't be disappointed. There's a lot of great information in this thread, and I'm convinced we need to go to DL! Thanks, everyone, for taking the time to post your thoughts and observations.

Quentin Disney
12-20-2000, 01:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> You should consider flying into John Wayne airport in Irvine California [/quote]

I'm thinking about going to DL in a year or so. Does anyone know the airport code for John Wayne? I hope it's not as costly over there, as I'm all the way from NY!

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brercalhoun
12-22-2000, 02:13 AM
I too had been to WDW 5 times & we just took our first trip to DL Dec. 8 - Dec. 11th. I ADORED it!! It was so fun for us to compare the rides that were the same. My kids had a great time riding Mr. Toad-which we miss at MK. The charm of the park is undescribable. I loved the Storybook Land ride and the Alice in Wonderland ride. It was so weird to be sitting side by side in Space Mountain and single file in Splash Mtn.

We stayed at Fairfield Inn. There are several decent hotels nearby. This was just your basic hotel, but it was clean. There is a McDonald's in their parking lot & a great restaurant-Millie's there also. We ate there several times. Both will deliver to your room. We ate lunch at Goofy's Kitchen at the Disneyland Hotel. It was fabulous! We describe it as a great Chef Mickey's.

We could leave our hotel and be in the parks in 10 minutes. There were a lot of people walking, so we felt safe.

We stayed for 9 hours on Friday, about 2 hours on Saturday morning and then about 7 hours on Sunday. We did everything we wanted and many attractions several times. We saw the fireworks twice, the Christmas parade once & Fantasmic 1.5 times.

If you love Walt like we do, you will not be disappointed. I can't wait to go back

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tiggeroo42
12-29-2000, 03:39 PM
larkedup,
The airport code for John Wayne Airport is SNA. It is a bit more expensive than flying into Los Angeles, but I think it is worth it to avoid LAX! ;)

As far as comparing DL to WDW, I must say that I like DL much better. We just got back from our first trip to WDW, and it just was not as "magical" as DL. The best thing was the World Showcase at Epcot, which would be the only thing I would really want to see again. Animal Kingdom and MGM were just okay, and the Magic Kingdom was the biggest disappointment compared to DL. It was way too crowded for the "off-season" (we were there 12/17-12/22), most of the rides were not as good as at DL or just not there at all (Alice, Matterhorn...), and the atmosphere (buildings, landscaping, etc.) was just not as good as DL.

The things I liked better about WDW were Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and Splash Mountain. Things they have there but not at DL that I liked were the World Showcase, Tower of Terror and Rock 'n Rollercoaster at MGM, and Buzz Lightyear at the Magic Kingdom. Oh, and the castle was bigger. :rolleyes:

For anyone who has only been to WDW, I would definitely suggest a trip to DL! It does not involve as much planning or money and is just as fun as WDW. Just my two cents... ;)

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Judy from Boise
01-10-2001, 08:21 PM
Bumping up the thread to help some of our new posters :)

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calbayBWV
01-10-2001, 10:36 PM
I highly recommend all Disney nuts to go to both, you will NOT regret it.

Kinda like someone studying religions of the world should see both Vatican City and Mecca. :rolleyes:

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toodles
01-11-2001, 05:46 AM
It's really DL vs Magic Kingdom. If you are used to going to the Magic Kingdom, DL will be very similar, but yes, I agree with most the folks here that it is the better version, save for the castle (imho).

I didn't have time to read all the posts so I don't know whether anyone else mentioned it, but Space Mountain is definitely better at DL. You can sit beside the person you are riding with rather than in front or back. This is especially important if you are going with a child who sort of wants to go but is a bit timid about it. (We really worried when they strapped our 6 year old into the front seat of one of the "rockets" at MK! -- he loved it though!)

Otherwise, whether you decide to try DL should depend on how big a part of your visit to WDW is enjoyed at the Magic Kingdom since there is no Epcot, Animal Kingdom, etc. in CA. Of course, this is an excellent year to try DL with the opening of DCA. This promises to be something that will definitely make the DL experience unique!

Happy vacationing, whatever you decide! :cool: :cool: :cool:

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BANKR47
01-12-2001, 03:17 PM
Well, this is obviously a matter of personal choice. We easterners who habitually go to WDW see it as a great thing, which it is, and you folks out west think DL is the tops. I will say this , Walt learned from his errors in land mansgement in Anaheim and really kept WDW as aa entitty away from "civilization" where he could build and build etc. DL is quaint and charming and I loved it the only time I was there, but it is in the middle of many hotels, restaurants and generally what Disney strives to make you forget. What this old fella remembers is that Fantasmic was greater at DL as was Small World. I will see in May and know I will be impressed, which is something for a 53 year old man!

Judy from Boise
01-30-2001, 04:43 PM
I am bumping this up as we have a lot of new posters planning 1st time trips ! :)

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Lindsay's mom
01-30-2001, 07:19 PM
We just returned from our first trip to DL a few weeks ago so I am going through Disney depression!! I have been to WDW about 10 times but DL was fantastic!! I agree with a previous post-DL is so charming. From the main entrance throughout the entire park everything is a little smaller and closer together which I thought gave it a cozier feeling. I loved Fantasyland-Small World was just beautiful. Our daughter loved ToonTown. We spent three days at the park and were able to enjoy things that we are usually too rushed to see at WDW. Maybe because it was 10 degrees when we left PA and haven't seen a flower in months but I thought the landscaping was especially nice. I have to admit when we drove in on the freeway and was able to see the park I was a little disappointed in it being in the middle of everything. I think WDW being "hidden" adds some magic. But once you in DL you would never know you are a few minutes from the freeway. Well can you tell I loved DL!! My husband is tired of hearing my daughter and I say we want to go back!

Dodie
02-01-2001, 12:44 PM
...because of all of the renewed interest the DL board seems to be getting lately!

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Judy from Boise
03-25-2001, 01:29 PM
I'm giving this a bump for our first time planners :)

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BetsyAnn
03-26-2001, 04:24 PM
It's just that I have been to DL so many times that it set the standard for me. Just like it has been said many time above, there is just some extra magic or memories at DL. For me the MK just doesn't have the same feel. The place it its home is in Fantasyland and Small World. There is just something about the clock on Small World, the plant animals that must feels so magical. There are more rides in Fantasyland at DL (above post have done a great job) and the theming at DL is just more kid friendly to me.
I am a big fan of Epcot, Disney Studios and the Animal Kingdom but to go and be that kid again, it is Disneyland! And I think Walt's touch has lasted well at DL.


:) BAS

Judy from Boise
03-30-2001, 08:38 AM
I agree, MK is, in a way ,my least favorite park at WDW.

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zorgon
03-30-2001, 01:27 PM
Generic post. Please ignore.

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JC Butterfly
09-23-2004, 03:38 PM
I thought this thread had a lot of great info so thought I'd bump it up for new trip planners to browse