Uhhh...question.

[Sparx]

why was that thread closed? No one broke any rules. :confused3

[TheBellhop]

Yeah, seriously!

[EeyoreFan1]

It was getting bad. And was kind of rude.. No offense to anyone.

[MuNkY]

Yeah no kidding. Heck, we as a group were making progress. People were admitting that things here were getting out of hand.

[Captain Brain]

Depending on how you read it, it had personal attacks.

[WORLDwarQUIFFLE]

I didn't think it got that bad.. ?

[Sparx]

It was getting bad. And was kind of rude.. No offense to anyone.

we were not getting rude.

Show me where we got rude?

We weren't attacking anyone. We were agreeing as a whole that there was a problem, then we were joking around with each other.

[TheBellhop]

It was getting bad. And was kind of rude.. No offense to anyone.

Rude...to whom?

[BabyPiglet]

The mods...

[MuNkY]

Depending on how you read it, it had personal attacks.

If you read it, I never attacked anybody. If someone took something the wrong way, heck that's their own problem.

[EeyoreFan1]

The mods...

::yes::

[Sparx]

The mods...

No one was attacking anyone, mod or not.

[TheBellhop]

Oh, because I question the validity of mods that aren't around half the time? Okay, cool. Thanks for the answer.

[HSMndLKfan92]

You were kidding around, but whoever closed it must've thought you guys were being serious.. ?

[MuNkY]

You were kidding around, but whoever closed it must've thought you guys were being serious.. ?

:rotfl:

Figures.

[Sparx]

:rotfl:

Figures.

ironic....

[BabyPiglet]

Are you serious. You all basically saying that the mods are bad at there job and we need new ones. Maybe you weren't blatanly saying it, but it was there...

[TheBellhop]

Are you serious. You all basically saying that the mods are bad at there job and we need new ones. Maybe you weren't blatanly saying it, but it was there...

But is this not the truth?

[BabyPiglet]

Ooooohhh well sorda...

[Sparx]

Are you serious. You all basically saying that the mods are bad at there job and we need new ones. Maybe you weren't blatanly saying it, but it was there...

We DO need more mods.

Thats me telling the truth. Not being rude.

I've said it a hundred and fifty times, to everyone I can get to listen to me. I've NEVER been called rude for saying that before. But now that Mike makes a post telling everyone to chill out it gets locked.

[BabyPiglet]

But still I thought we had all agreed not to go bashing people...

We should keep MOST bad opinions to ourselves...

In my opinion...

[Sparx]

But still I thought we had all agreed not to go bashing people...

We should keep MOST bad opinions to ourselves...

In my opinion...

We didn't bash anyone. I'm not bashign Travis or Tara in saying we need more moderators.

Seriously, this is what mike's thread was about.:confused3

[BabyPiglet]

Okay...

[Arielfn93]

We DO need more mods.

Thats me telling the truth. Not being rude.

I've said it a hundred and fifty times, to everyone I can get to listen to me. I've NEVER been called rude for saying that before. But now that Mike makes a post telling everyone to chill out it gets locked.

It's really not that simple, because he told people they needed to grow up, he intentially used the lord's name in vain which does get people mad at times.

See, the thread would still be here if Mike was a bit kinder. So, that is why it got locked Shelby

[J'adoreParis]

We DO need more mods.

Thats me telling the truth. Not being rude.

I've said it a hundred and fifty times, to everyone I can get to listen to me. I've NEVER been called rude for saying that before. But now that Mike makes a post telling everyone to chill out it gets locked.

the only reason you're making such a big deal out of the tb needing more mods is because you want to be one.

[TheBellhop]

the only reason you're making such a big deal out of the tb needing more mods is because you want to be one.

SHE'S BACK!

[BabyPiglet]

Holy crap!!!

Aaaah!!!

Shes back!

[HSMndLKfan92]

SHE'S BACK!

My thoughts exactly.

[Sparx]

the only reason you're making such a big deal out of the tb needing more mods is because you want to be one.

I can name another half dozen people who do too.

I think its public knowledge that I wanted to be a moderator. You're not unveiling some big secret here.

[Mickey1122]

It worries me that mods have to power to warn people and give them points for attacking, or speaking out against them. (I do not mean to suggest that this is happening right now!)

[Captain Brain]

Holy crap!!!

Aaaah!!!

Shes back!
Agreed.

[Mickey1122]

the only reason you're making such a big deal out of the tb needing more mods is because you want to be one.

:rolleyes:
Lots of people on here would love to moderate. And it IS a problem. Almost everyone here seems to agree that we need at least one more mod.

[BabyPiglet]

I wanna be a mod.. Big deal...

[TheBellhop]

It worries me that mods have to power to warn people and give them points for attacking, or speaking out against them. (I do not mean to suggest that this is happening right now!)

It's just a little bit fascist.

[Sparx]

I'm waiting for another Big Brother reference.

[BabyPiglet]

Waiting... :p

[TheBellhop]

2 and 2 always makes up 5.

[Sparx]

It's really not that simple, because he told people they needed to grow up, he intentially used the lord's name in vain which does get people mad at times.

See, the thread would still be here if Mike was a bit kinder. So, that is why it got locked Shelby

It really is that simple.

He was using that as an example as to how everyone is just too high strung. The thread getting closed just reinforces that statement.

I don't believe in God. It doesn't offend me one bit to hear someone say "god", just like it wouldn't offend me to hear "allah" or "vishnu".

Those who are offended by that are the ones that he was directing it to.

Mike was as nice as he could be, if you read the whole post. He said "I'm not attacking anyone" and he used ":hug:" to end the post.

The thread was locked for the reasons it was made.

[J'adoreParis]

Holy crap!!!

Aaaah!!!

Shes back!

i'm glad i'm welcomed with such open arms...

[MuNkY]

i'm glad i'm welcomed with such open arms...

Would've been a better reception if you didn't knock down the door while coming in.

[TheBellhop]

i'm glad i'm welcomed with such open arms...

Not when you openly flamed another poster, harassing her both on and off the DIS.

[Sparx]

i'm glad i'm welcomed with such open arms...

oh yeah.

forgot you were here.


welcome back.

[BabyPiglet]

Ya I thikn we'll have a big turkey dinner for you...

I'll go plan it..

In case you didn't get it I was being sarcastic!

[VMK_MagicalLadee]

oh yeah.

forgot you were here.


welcome back.

I dont want to get eaten on here.. But..
Since i haven't been on here long..
Could someone pm me what happened so i know whats going on? :p

[Sparx]

I dont want to get eaten on here.. But..
Since i haven't been on here long..
Could someone pm me what happened so i know whats going on? :p

Shes an alter who was made to tell me how unimportant I am.

in fact, she spent hours telling me just how much I suck. Both on a few threads and over msn.

obviously, I'm pretty important to consume this much of her time.:confused3

[DollfieDreams]

well kids. it just goes to show that they want us to have "conflicts" of some sort. it gives them their "something's to do" when they make appearances. how dare we try and solve it. *le gasp* no offense to anyone, really. :] JMO.

ive added my .02, now lets wait for the flames. ;)

[VMK_MagicalLadee]

Shes an alter who was made to tell me how unimportant I am.

in fact, she spent hours telling me just how much I suck. Both on a few threads and over msn.

obviously, I'm pretty important to consume this much of her time.:confused3

Oh.
Well.
I think you own. :)

[J'adoreParis]

Shes an alter who was made to tell me how unimportant I am.

in fact, she spent hours telling me just how much I suck. Both on a few threads and over msn.

obviously, I'm pretty important to consume this much of her time.:confused3

i must be just as important since you were arguing back for all those hours :confused3

[BabyPiglet]

The cranberries are almost done..

How are we supposed to welcome you back when you were soooo mean to Shelby and others?

[Sparx]

Oh.
Well.
I think you own. :)

Thank you.

Not the first time its happened, and it won't be the last. Even if she hates me, its still an obsession.

[HSMndLKfan92]

i must be just as important since you were arguing back for all those hours :confused3

You don't attack someone and then expect them to keel over.

[DizParks]

I wonder who will be the first to have a black bag pulled over their eyes, and secretly removed from these boards.

[Sparx]

i must be just as important since you were arguing back for all those hours :confused3

I just wanted to know why you picked me to attack, then I started having fun. You started it, with that first attack. You made the alter. You're the one who isn't brave enough to flat out tell me you don't like me under your own name. NEVER get it in your head that you're important to me.

[VMK_MagicalLadee]

I wonder who will be the first to have a black bag pulled over their eyes, and secretly removed from these boards.

Sorry but...

:lmao:

That was random and funnily worded.

[Sparx]

Sorry but...

:lmao:

That was random and funnily worded.
its a 1984 reference.

[VMK_MagicalLadee]

its a 1984 reference.

I still liked it :p

[TheBellhop]

I'm so surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet.

[Sparx]

I'm so surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet.

actually, same.

[Mickey1122]

I agree. This thread has more reason to be closed than the other, IMO.

[DollfieDreams]

wait for it...wait for it...

[meeshheartsdisney217]

some people take this whole "we don't know each other in person" thing way too far.

don't say anything on here you wouldn't say in person.


i know shelby (and maybe some others) can pretty much say anything to anyone's face. if you dont' know that about them, you should probably study up before you get offended on what they say.

get it? got it? good.

[MuNkY]

some people take this whole "we don't know each other in person" thing way too far.

don't say anything on here you wouldn't say in person.


i know shelby (and maybe some others) can pretty much say anything to anyone's face. if you dont' know that about them, you should probably study up before you get offended on what they say.

get it? got it? good.

That's one thing I love about this other board I post on. There are posters who you just DON'T pick a fight with, because of the sheer fact that they are them.

[BabyPiglet]

There;s a girl at my school like that...

[Sparx]

That's one thing I love about this other board I post on. There are posters who you just DON'T pick a fight with, because of the sheer fact that they are them.

(I also post on that board)

and there are people you just don't mess with because everyone else will jump on you.

Now, I want someone who has a problem with me to be comfortable enough with me to be able to say "I don't like this". Obviously, this girl didn't feel comfortable enough to do that with me.

[BabyPiglet]

Shleby, I feel comfortable enough with you to say I'm soooo jealous of your post count...

It commands respect...

[TheBellhop]

Shleby, I feel comfortable enough with you to say I'm soooo jealous of your post count...

It commands respect...

Yeah, I mean daaaang.

[Sparx]

Shleby, I feel comfortable enough with you to say I'm soooo jealous of your post count...

It commands respect...

I post on a couple boards to build it up.

I don't play games, and I don't do that 'bump your post count' thing.

all of those are "real" posts.

[BabyPiglet]

I post on a couple boards to build it up.

I don't play games, and I don't do that 'bump your post count' thing.

all of those are "real" posts.

Good for you....

[disney100666]

omg i know why was it closed you guys were talking about the TRUTH!!!!!!!!
that was so not fair!!!!!!:mad:

[2HOT2touch]

Okay, im comfortable enough with myself and my beiliefs and if i knew you in person and you were like this in person as well, i would deffinately say this to your face.
shelby and Mike, do you live in the real world? or are you just completely glued to your computer screens and have this fantasy world playing through your heads?
because yes, people get offended on this board, but people get even more offended in the real world. We can't even say Merry Christmas anymore, and you are concerned with people getting offended about as you say "little things". it's not our fault we get offended, its societies fault. Society has brainwashed everyone, if there was no society everything would be peachy, and like we were 5 years old again when the worst thing that offended us was getting woken up from our naps. it's not our fault if we get offended, i know you get offended too. so if you are going to get mad, get mad at society not the people living by society. so I suggest you go outside into the real world and see how many people get offended and how easily, because i can assure you it is like 10 times worse.
I'm sorry for being so harsh, i know you are nice people, but some of your threads are getting on my nerves. (if you don't understand the whole society thing, i suggest you read The Great Gatsby.)

[tinkerbell12]

Shes an alter who was made to tell me how unimportant I am.

in fact, she spent hours telling me just how much I suck. Both on a few threads and over msn.

obviously, I'm pretty important to consume this much of her time.:confused3

Wow... I guess I missed a lot during my time on the phone w/ my friend... about 3 hours and BAM!

i must be just as important since you were arguing back for all those hours :confused3

Uh, duh, who wouldn't "fight back"???????

I just wanted to know why you picked me to attack, then I started having fun. You started it, with that first attack. You made the alter. You're the one who isn't brave enough to flat out tell me you don't like me under your own name. NEVER get it in your head that you're important to me.

I am missing tons of stuff..

some people take this whole "we don't know each other in person" thing way too far.

don't say anything on here you wouldn't say in person.


i know shelby (and maybe some others) can pretty much say anything to anyone's face. if you dont' know that about them, you should probably study up before you get offended on what they say.

get it? got it? good.


When I talk, especially to people who have become my friends on the Dis, I am "pretending" to be talking to them face-to-face... I really would like to be treated that way, kindly, and why would you be rude because even though your not right there with them the reciever is still getting the messages and that's why i try to be as kind as i would be face to face

[VolleyballQt07]

this thread is worse than the other one.....:sad2: ;) :confused3

everything that was said on the other board was not offensive to me. i believe in god but i use god or jesus in everyday life. i cant believe though that somebody took offense to it so it got closed. i actually thought that that thread was going to be the turning point. i thought it was going to help "rebuild" the TB but i guess not...........:guilty: :confused3

[tinkerbell12]

I think at this point it'll take more "rebuilding" than that...

[VolleyballQt07]

I think at this point it'll take more "rebuilding" than that...

oh i know, i just thought it'd be a start.......:confused3


and how do we know if we get those "points" for being rude or offensive?:confused3 :confused:

[Sparx]

oh i know, i just thought it'd be a start.......:confused3


and how do we know if we get those "points" for being rude or offensive?:confused3 :confused:

They pm you, and they show up on your profile.

Here's a screenshot of my warning:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/MSparks/askskkks.jpg

[tinkerbell12]

oh i know, i just thought it'd be a start.......:confused3

Yea it would be but, like i said, it's gonna take some work to "rebuild it"


and how do we know if we get those "points" for being rude or offensive?:confused3 :confused:

exactly what I thought

[Sparx]

Okay, im comfortable enough with myself and my beiliefs and if i knew you in person and you were like this in person as well, i would deffinately say this to your face.
shelby and Mike, do you live in the real world? or are you just completely glued to your computer screens and have this fantasy world playing through your heads?
because yes, people get offended on this board, but people get even more offended in the real world. We can't even say Merry Christmas anymore, and you are concerned with people getting offended about as you say "little things". it's not our fault we get offended, its societies fault. Society has brainwashed everyone, if there was no society everything would be peachy, and like we were 5 years old again when the worst thing that offended us was getting woken up from our naps. it's not our fault if we get offended, i know you get offended too. so if you are going to get mad, get mad at society not the people living by society. so I suggest you go outside into the real world and see how many people get offended and how easily, because i can assure you it is like 10 times worse.
I'm sorry for being so harsh, i know you are nice people, but some of your threads are getting on my nerves. (if you don't understand the whole society thing, i suggest you read The Great Gatsby.)

I appreciate how you can say that to me. It really makes me respect you more.

[tinkerbell12]

oh... i get it... i think

[PatriotsRule]

Am I the only one who wishes everyone could just CALM DOWN? It really seemed like things were getting back to normal for a good minute there . . .

[DollfieDreams]

we are far from any sort of "rebuilding" process when a thread is shut down for trying to come to terms with issues without explanation. that just seems childish to me.

just because someone took offense to one little thing said, doesnt mean we should completely ignore the issue. you cant please everyone, so whats the use in trying. i could say cardboard box and get a "OMG!!11 my aunts sisters cousins bestfriends boyfriends daughters son-in-laws grandpas cat died that way! i hate yooouu!!!11" and here we go again.

not everyone is going to think like you, act like you, talk like you, and they sure as heck aren't you. accept each other's differences and view points and learn not to shove yours down their throat. i may just be preaching to the choir here, but seriously, this crap is getting old. it comes up every time someone gets their feathers ruffled over something stupid.

i dont understand how we're supposed to "come to an understanding" between everyone without the free range of us speaking our minds. we might as well go back to having hissy fits over "oh mah gawd, emo's are so lyke, not lyke that!!11".

[tinkerbell12]

we are far from any sort of "rebuilding" process when a thread is shut down for trying to come to terms with issues without explanation. that just seems childish to me.


I would really like to know
a.) what that thread was all about (please PM me someone, please)
b.) why it was shut down!

[VolleyballQt07]

I would really like to know
a.) what that thread was all about (please PM me someone, please)
b.) why it was shut down!

even though its closed, you can still read it.......:confused3

[Loves Disney]

Oh bother. Now I see why the mods aren't as active...they finally do their job and people yell at them.

[tinkerbell12]

Oh bother. Now I see why the mods aren't as active...they finally do their job and people yell at them.

I don't think people are mad at them or are yelling at them, we just want to know why it was closed... can't they give an explanation? :confused3

[Loves Disney]

I don't think people are mad at them or are yelling at them, we just want to know why it was closed... can't they give an explanation? :confused3

I read the thread. I think it's pretty clear why it was closed lol. But then again, that's just me.

[Vannah]

Like many others it seems to me that this thread is worse than the other and should have been shut down a long time ago. Guess not, though.

Shelby, I love how you speak your mind and don't beat around the bush. And I (too) am jelous of your post count.

[polysisterchick]

so, i'm clueless.
about everything.

should i know what's going on?
if so, could someone tell me?

i've seen no issues but then again....
i haven't been on that much this past week because of school

so.
why is there a need to "rebuild" the TB?
and what has everyone's "panties in a bunch"?

[Captain Brain]

Oh bother. Now I see why the mods aren't as active...they finally do their job and people yell at them.
Thank you for posting that, Cat. :)

[MuNkY]

Oh bother. Now I see why the mods aren't as active...they finally do their job and people yell at them.

No, they locked a thread where we were making progress in finally ending all the BS on this board, and now they are letting this one go.

Brilliant.:rolleyes:

[Captain Brain]

No, they locked a thread where we were making progress in finally ending all the BS on this board, and now they are letting this one go.

Brilliant.:rolleyes:
No offense, but in that thread you and a couple others were basically saying that Travis and Tara don't do a good job moderating.

[TheBellhop]

No offense, but in that thread you and a couple others were basically saying that Travis and Tara don't do a good job moderating.

Umm, Tara does not do a good job at moderating, I'm sorry. She never posts any more, shouldn't mods be active in their community? Travis, well he's a pretty good moderator, for being busy in college and all. I applaud him for that. But Tara? No, she's my age.

[Captain Brain]

Umm, Tara does not do a good job at moderating, I'm sorry. She never posts any more, shouldn't mods be active in their community? Travis, well he's a pretty good moderator, for being busy in college and all. I applaud him for that. But Tara? No, she's my age.
Tara is just busy. I received a message the other day from her saying that her computer was messed up, and it would only work on her mom's account. She has had a lot going on, and personal life comes before Moderating.

[TheBellhop]

Even before her personal problems she still hadn't been around...

[MuNkY]

No offense, but in that thread you and a couple others were basically saying that Travis and Tara don't do a good job moderating.

Your basically saying I can't speak out against athority. I don't know about you, but I live in the United States, and that's what this country was built on.

If your saying I can't say I don't approve of the moderator's job moderating, well, I don't want to post here anymore, because we now post on a communist board.

[2HOT2touch]

No, they locked a thread where we were making progress in finally ending all the BS on this board, and now they are letting this one go.

Brilliant.:rolleyes:
I don't think the other thread was getting anything done. People are going to think what they want and they are going to get offended, you can't do anything about that. Like I said society is what makes people offended, if there wasn't society influencing people then everything will be peachy. But society does influence people and therefore people are ofended by stupid stuff and you can't change that no matter how hard you try. So Again I suggest going outside and realising what i am saying is true and then get on with your life.

[MuNkY]

I don't think the other thread was getting anything done. People are going to think what they want and they are going to get offended, you can't do anything about that. Like I said society is what makes people offended, if there wasn't society influencing people then everything will be peachy. But society does influence people and therefore people are ofended by stupid stuff and you can't change that no matter how hard you try. So Again I suggest going outside and realising what i am saying is true and then get on with your life.

People were starting to admit it's gotten out of hand. Some people who I saw who wern't exactly helping before.

Now please try to understand that I don't want things to be peachy. I just don't wan't every freaking thread turning into a flame fest, no matter how it started.

[Captain Brain]

7. MODERATORS: The DIS has a wonderful group of Moderators who have volunteered to assist our visitors and monitor the boards. Part of their responsibilities is ensuring that our guidelines are followed which may require that a thread is edited, deleted, closed or moved. If these decisions impact you, we ask that you respect them. Should you have any questions, please direct them to admin@wdwinfo.com. Any discussion about a Moderating decision that takes place on the boards could result in an infraction.

There you have it.

[Sparx]

Tara is just busy. I received a message the other day from her saying that her computer was messed up, and it would only work on her mom's account. She has had a lot going on, and personal life comes before Moderating.

when your personal life is getting in the way of a job you're doing, you give up that job. You're doing a disservice to everyone you're supposed to be helping by not doing that.

I dont' begrudge her for not being her. I begrudge her for not handing over her responsibilities.

[TheBellhop]

There you have it.

Can you please just stop?

[Sparx]

There you have it.

There you have what?

Billy, we know the guidelines. I've been here for years. I've read them.

[MuNkY]

Can you please just stop?

*waits for the infamous...no YOU stop*

popcorn::

[WebmasterKathy]

No, EVERYBODY stop.

:mad:

What the HECK is the problem here? It sounds like some of you are talking about electing moderators like you're voting for the homecoming queen or something. That's not what they're here for, and that's not how it works.

There is a "report this post" button on every post on this forum. If you have a problem with a post, click that button. The problem you're reporting will be sent to the moderators listed for this forum, INCLUDING the Dis Moderator Team. This team consists of a number of adult moderators, including several webmasters.

So there shouldn't be a problem in contacting a moderator- that's how you do it.

Other that that, what exactly is the problem here? :headache:

We will NOT be having any more insults or personal attacks here. And that goes for insults against moderators as well as other posters.

[Sparx]

No, EVERYBODY stop.

:mad:

What the HECK is the problem here? It sounds like some of you are talking about electing moderators like you're voting for the homecoming queen or something. That's not what they're here for, and that's not how it works.

There is a "report this post" button on every post on this forum. If you have a problem with a post, click that button. The problem you're reporting will be sent to the moderators listed for this forum, INCLUDING the Dis Moderator Team. This team consists of a number of adult moderators, including several webmasters.

So there shouldn't be a problem in contacting a moderator- that's how you do it.

Other that that, what exactly is the problem here? :headache:

We will NOT be having any more insults or personal attacks here. And that goes for insults against moderators as well as other posters.

Kathy, I've been telling you the problem since before Christmas. You always say "something will happen" or "we're discussing it". But nothing has happened.

There are problems in contacting some moderators (no names).

I've started thread after thread asking for moderators, and I know that a thread was started in the modforum asking for our moderators. I've PMed EVERY webmaster, and about half of the moderators.

Thats the problem.

[MuNkY]

No, EVERYBODY stop.

:mad:

What the HECK is the problem here? It sounds like some of you are talking about electing moderators like you're voting for the homecoming queen or something. That's not what they're here for, and that's not how it works.

There is a "report this post" button on every post on this forum. If you have a problem with a post, click that button. The problem you're reporting will be sent to the moderators listed for this forum, INCLUDING the Dis Moderator Team. This team consists of a number of adult moderators, including several webmasters.

So there shouldn't be a problem in contacting a moderator- that's how you do it.

Other that that, what exactly is the problem here? :headache:

We will NOT be having any more insults or personal attacks here. And that goes for insults against moderators as well as other posters.

I really appriciate your post.

We've had problems here. Plain and simple. Everybody seems to be way uptight, and we seem to be nit-picking at everybody. Someone says something, someone gets offended and starts an arguement. Heck we've had people make alters just to insult other posters.

As for the mod thing, several of us just think the board could use another mod who is a bit more active than the other ones. Not that I'm saying Travis and Tara are terrible mods, but I think we could use someone who views more threads and can close things when they get out of hand faster than Travis and Tara seem to be doing.

I just want things to go back to the way they were when people wern't at each other's throats.:)

[WebmasterKathy]

If a thread is getting out of hand, REPORT it! And in the report, explain what the problem is.

There are lots of eyes who see those reports, not just the two moderators you've named, and threads that are real problems will be closed pretty quickly if they're reported this way.

Honestly, I'm not seeing a lot of positive attempts to help make things better here.

[Sparx]

If a thread is getting out of hand, REPORT it! And in the report, explain what the problem is.

There are lots of eyes who see those reports, not just the two moderators you've named, and threads that are real problems will be closed pretty quickly if they're reported this way.

Honestly, I'm not seeing a lot of positive attempts to help make things better here.

My dozens and dozens of PMs weren't an attempt?

I know half of the ones to WMs have still NOT been read. Those were sent in November. Then out of the half that were read, I got two responses. I go at it again, I get one. I go at it again, and I don't get any. I move on to moderators. Two respond, and one makes a thread.

Kathy, I'm trying.

I've poured two years of my life into this forum, this one in particular, and I'm appalled at the state its fallen to. I've not been the best I could be, I'm the first do admit that. But I know that MANY posters have TRIED to contact the WMs, and mods, and I'm one of the few who were answered.

Kathy, we're trying. We're not perfect, I'll admit that, but we're trying. You can't say that we're not.

[daughter_of_amid_chaos]

Are you serious. You all basically saying that the mods are bad at there job and we need new ones. Maybe you weren't blatanly saying it, but it was there...

Like you didn't jump on the bandwagon on all the other threads about the need for another mod. Once the webmasters get involved you start to side with them.

[Loves Disney]

If a thread is getting out of hand, REPORT it! And in the report, explain what the problem is.

There are lots of eyes who see those reports, not just the two moderators you've named, and threads that are real problems will be closed pretty quickly if they're reported this way.

Honestly, I'm not seeing a lot of positive attempts to help make things better here.

I agree with that statement, completely.


MuNkY, you are saying that the thread that was closed was making progress? That is so not the way to do it. That thread was not "progress" but rather a way to "yell" and "flame" at those who don't do their jobs. That thread was getting people to admit to poor moderation...it was solving nothing whatsoever. It shouldn't have been started in the first place. Like WebmasterKathy just said, there are other ways to go about solving issues like that...Report. Don't start a thread that will inevitably turn into what it did.

Brain, I am glad you posted that quote from the guidelines.

Any discussion about a Moderating decision that takes place on the boards could result in an infraction.

Moderators have the final say. I believe that if anyone has a problem with a decision made by a moderator or webmaster, don't post about it so that others can grab their torches and join in the "Arg! This is stupid! That thread was closed! Arg!" I think the better thing and more responsible thing is to take it up with someone holding a level of authority on the boards. As the guidelines state, "Any discussion about a moderating decision that takes place on the boards could result in an infraction".

As for the mod thing, several of us just think the board could use another mod who is a bit more active than the other ones. Not that I'm saying Travis and Tara are terrible mods, but I think we could use someone who views more threads and can close things when they get out of hand faster than Travis and Tara seem to be doing.

I just want things to go back to the way they were when people wern't at each other's throats

Now at least that is a decent way of saying it. I 100% agree with this statement. ;)

[BabyPiglet]

Like you didn't jump on the bandwagon on all the other threads about the need for another mod. Once the webmasters get involved you start to side with them.

Don't...just don't....

I said on all those other threads that our moderators are doind a good job, I would joust like to see more of them! If you actually read the thread you would know that. On the thread Mike made, I was saying that he was bashing the mods. He was saying Tara and Travis should leave and we should get completely new ones!

I think it's pretty bad that they closed one thread and shelby made a completly new one basically saying the same stuff! Taht's how comfortable I am with you, There Shelby...

Also Shelby I think it's pretty bad that you are noramlly the one making these threads about how bad we're getting. But you're the one who startes all the fights! Then everyone follows suit! Nobody might have the courage to say this, becasue you are intimidating. If someone were to say this you and your gang starts digging into them!

I've tried really hard to stop, but sometimes those are just my opinions!

It is really ridiculous. This thread should be closed!

Oh yeah but wait someone will just make an exact replica of it...

:headache: :headache:

[VolleyballQt07]

Don't...just don't....

I said on all those other threads that our moderators are doind a good job, I would joust like to see more of them! If you actually read the thread you would know that. On the thread Mike made, I was saying that he was bashing the mods. He was saying Tara and Travis should leave and we should get completely new ones!

I think it's pretty bad that they closed one thread and shelby made a completly new one basically saying the same stuff! Taht's how comfortable I am with you, There Shelby...

Also Shelby I think it's pretty bad that you are noramlly the one making these threads about how bad we're getting. But you're the one who startes all the fights! Then everyone follows suit! Nobody might have the courage to say this, becasue you are intimidating. If someone were to say this you and your gang starts digging into them!

I've tried really hard to stop, but sometimes those are just my opinions!

It is really ridiculous. This thread should be closed!

Oh yeah but wait someone will just make an exact replica of it...

:headache: :headache:

::yes:: ITA! but i dont think she starts ALL the fights......just some......;)

shelby, i have respect for you its just sometime, i think you think you own the boards. well, the TB anyways. it always seemes like when there is a fight, you or/and mike are ALWAYS involved. now i respect the fact that you are trying to help but i feel you are sometimes overdoing it. and i have kept this inside me along time but i hate when i argue with you or mike because you two ALWAYS gang up on a person and tear them limb from limb. it makes me feel like crap when i argue with you two because i will never win because its ALWAYS two against one. me being the one. i finally got that done and over with. *takes one BIG breath*

[DollfieDreams]

have we seriously reduced to arguing about whos the one doing all the arguing?

guys, really. this is just getting silly. now that we've stepped on everybody else's toes, got kathy involved,and now attacking shelby and mike, dont you think thats enough for right now? if people annoy you that bad on this board, then the next time your opinion isnt taken the way you wanted it to, go color a picture and put it on the refrigerator. waste your time in a way your mom can smile about, kay?

[BabyPiglet]

She said that she wishes everyone feels comfortable enough to tell her what they thought of her. I did.

You can't fault me for doind that. This whole thread is pointless arguing. It doesn't matter the number of threads saying that we have problem that is not going to change anything.

Shelby needs to admit that she is intimidating and that's she startes a lot of the fights.

[DollfieDreams]

She said that she wishes everyone feels comfortable enough to tell her what they thought of her. I did.

You can't fault me for doind that. This whole thread is pointless arguing. It doesn't matter the number of threads saying that we have problem that is not going to change anything.

Shelby needs to admit that she is intimidating and that's she startes a lot of the fights.

i didn't call you on it. all i was saying was that we dont need to be attacking anybody. thats part of the problem right there. we're getting too offended over ridiculous and useless stuff, which makes us get angry at people and there starts the domino effect all over again. we carry our anger too much and too long. im starting to think that maybe this whole board needs to join some type of yoga/meditation class. :rolleyes:

[BabyPiglet]

i didn't call you on it. all i was saying was that we dont need to be attacking anybody. thats part of the problem right there. we're getting too offended over ridiculous and useless stuff, which makes us get angry at people and there starts the domino effect all over again. we carry our anger too much and too long. im starting to think that maybe this whole board needs to join some type of yoga/meditation class. :rolleyes:

She asked me her opinion, basically...

So her casuing alot of the crap on the disboards is useless stuff?

[DollfieDreams]

apparently.

because we cant even avoid the useless stuff anyway. we make no progress in trying to better ourselves. and we're still arguing. it solves nothing, as we've seen. so why try and pin point someone to blame now? we all feed to the fire in one way or another, so wouldn't that make us all the ones to blame?

[Sparx]

Jenny,

Do you have some sort of reading comprehension problem? Seriously. I've said MANY times, that I have been a bit of a problem in starting disputes. You're not telling anyone anything new. Now you're just attacking me. I have admitted that I have started some things, but I don't start everything. You can't blame all of this on me, no matter how good it makes you feel about everything else.

I'm the one that gets singled out on the TB. Thats fine by me. Most of you just fly under the radar, but I never have and I never will. I'm the one thats bending over backwards trying to get mods. I've not seen ONE person do half of what I've been trying to do.

But yeah, go ahead, attack me. Thats fine.

Mike never said to get rid of Tara and Travis. Mike asked for a 3rd mod. You know, 3rd, as in after first(travis) and second(tara).

I love how you're agreeing with every word I say until mods or wms show up.Then you just turn around and attack me, and mike. I never said to get rid of tara and travis, and I've not seen anyone say that yet. Frankly, I don't care one way or the other about it anymore.

I bend over backwards, I put myself on the line for this forum, and then people like you bash me for it. Thats great. Thats fine. Go right ahead. Attack me.

I've made some personal attacks before, but I'm the first to apologize. I'm the first to offer to take it off the boards to keep it from getting too personal here. Anyone remember the apology threads I've made? I've not seen too many of you doing that. I've not seen the people who really need to, do that.

Welcome to the internet, sweetheart. How am I intimidating you? You can't see me. You don't know me. What am I going to do? Wait until a WM is watching to attack you? No. I don't play like that.

I keep what I think about most of you to myself. Because, frankly, you don't need to know. I could say a lot right now, that I've not already said, but I'll take the higher road.

I've been on this forum for more than 2 years. I've made thousands and thousands of posts HERE. But none of that matters. It doesn't matter how much I've helped almost every one of you. It doesn't matter all of the friends I've made here. As soon as you need a scape goat, you come after me and mike. Two main posters who will put their neck on the line to get something done here.

Yeah. thanks for that.

[BabyPiglet]

apparently.

because we cant even avoid the useless stuff anyway. we make no progress in trying to better ourselves. and we're still arguing. it solves nothing, as we've seen. so why try and pin point someone to blame now? we all feed to the fire in one way or another, so wouldn't that make us all the ones to blame?

I didn't say it was all her fault. I have taken responsibility for stuff. I'm not trying to pin point them now. Iv'e thought it for a long time, I just needed to build up the courage...

I'm over this thread. :sad2:

[PG Sweetie]

THAT IS ENOUGH!!!

Attacking each other or Travis and I will not get anyone anywhere.
When it gets to the point where Kathy has to step in it has gone far enough. So as I have said many times bofore if you do not like the thread or the post do not reply.
And if you have a problem with a poster add them to your ignore list.

Please make this the end of the issues.

Tara

[soccercruiser87]

enough is enough!.. attacks and rudeness is uncalled for and needs to stop, especially on the teen board!..this thread is now closed!...thank you